The Daily Zeitgeist - Sex or Sourdough? Oprah Owes You An Apology 5.1.20

Episode Date: May 1, 2020

In episode 621, Jack and Miles are joined by There Are No Girls On The Internet podcast host Bridget Todd to discuss some coronavirus facts to take into consideration before we re-open, how cover-19 effects people of color, Trump not happy with his polling against Biden, condom sales down, which movie they will watch for TDZ movie club, covid documentaries, and more!FOOTNOTES: Oprah Winfrey Rolls Out A Wagon Of Fat 3 Coronavirus Facts Americans Must Know Before Returning To Work, School If COVID-19 Doesn’t Discriminate, Then Why Are Black People Dying at Higher Rates? Trump presented with grim internal polling showing him losing to Biden Condom sales down as lockdown limits sex lives, says Durex maker There Are Too Many Covid-19 Documentaries in the Works WATCH: Mia Doi Todd - My Room Is White (Flying Lotus Remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio appheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 131 episode 5 of your daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the Koch brothers and fuck Fox News. It's Friday, May 1st, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jacko is in quar, he's feeling like a loner. But he knows that this might last.

Jacko stayed at home, he doesn't want corona. He thinks Dan Patrick is an ass. Oh. Get back. Get back. Get back inside your goddamn homes. Get back. Get back inside is where we all belong.

Get back, Jacko. Wow. That is courtesy of Lorcan RR, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray, a.k.a. the inventor of the Gray-O Clinic, a.k.a. Johns Potkins, a.k.a. Weeders Sinai, a.k.a. First Presbyterian, a.k.a.

Doobie Hauser, E.D., a.k.a. Gray's Anatomy, a.k.a. No Scrubs, a.k.a. The Hood Doctor, a.k.a. Doobie Hauser, a.k.a. Grey's Anatomy, a.k.a. No Scrubs, a.k.a. The Hood Doctor, a.k.a. Hard House, a.k.a. General Hospital, a.k.a. Nurse Jack O. That would be you. But thank you to Walter Chestnut Jr. for those strings of medically induced a.k.a.s. Hell yeah. Walter Chestnut. It's been a while. good to see you again my friend and we are thrilled to be joined all the way from the east coast by the hilarious and talented and brilliant bridget todd hello thank you so much for having me wow what an intro oh thank you it's

great to be with you i mean to think just the last time we were together we were jack and i anna we were flying willy-nilly around the country while probably covid19 was spreading uh but what and now look at us now here we are i know we did you i had no idea that would be one of the last times i was doing a podcast thing IRL I wasn't remote in my kitchen you know yeah man oh what a time so Bridget how's DC what's the what are the vibrations in the capital um I really wouldn't know because I haven't left my house in a very long time um I think the vibe here like we're lucky that we have a mayor who seems to be sort of on it you know we get very clear information from our mayor every day about the numbers and the cases and all of that.

So I'm lucky for that because some people don't have that kind of leadership. Certainly, we don't have that kind of leadership federally. So it's nice to have to feel like someone like a grown up is in charge. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Word. Do you have weird like are there weird products that are having shortages you know like in la you can't get garlic i don't know oh really i don't know who the garlic plug is in los angeles but if you are the garlic connect well holler at me because

i'm i'm in for at least two pounds literally literally, of garlic I'll buy up for you. Ours is definitely flour. Like, everybody has decided how they're getting through the pandemic is baking. And so it's like, people can't find flour. And I actually have a friend who is a professional baker. And she's like, yeah, I can't make my goods because everybody has decided, oh, I'm a professional baker now. I need flour. So definitely flour, yeast. Everyone's doing that sourdough starter like it's interesting we are all coping in these very weird ways like oh there's a

pandemic i better get really into gardening yeah i'm not at that level of of pandemic yet where i've gone into the baking phase i don't know if i will uh but it's always interesting to see people i've been surprised at the kinds of people I've seen suddenly be like, I'm making my own yeast. And I'm like, you're actually making like pruno, but I guess that's yeast. Yeah, dude, yeah, do that. Yeah, those people are way more ambitious than I am, I will just say. Baking.

Yeah. Is the one new skill you've picked up like teaching preschoolers over Zoom or like monitoring Zoom educations essentially? That's your new skill you've picked up like based on like teaching preschoolers over Zoom or like monitoring like Zoom educations essentially that's your new skill yeah and that very poorly what has it been like as a parent like what is this time like as someone because I don't have kids what is it like as someone

who has kids you know I've got a today my three-year-old is a four-year-old he's a man now oh my god happy birthday he will be uh he will be going out and getting a job now and a tattoo yes yes uh but it's it's all right it's it's a fun age like uh four and two it's an okay age for this because like sometimes they'll ask it's an okay age for this because like sometimes they'll ask really sad questions like how come i never get to see my friends or why can't i see my friends for my birthday but then they kind of forget about that after a couple minutes uh so yeah i mean it's tricky but it's yeah it's good

it's a lot of it's a lot of fun to spend a lot of time with them right now. Or you hit them with the overly complex answer. It's like, well, because there's an elected official at the top who refuses to accept, I guess, the generally accepted reality and science around the topic, therefore completely botched the situation and has led to, I mean, just really poor outcomes for everyone. So, yeah, that's why. They have an endless amount of patience to just keep asking me what things are and why things are the way they are so i don't have you been stumped what's the latest thing you've been stumped uh trying to explain to uh yeah i can't

think of it but i've definitely been stumped on the regular of just how to how to convey very complicated uh questions uh one that i got within the past week is why do things die um which is wild and yeah wait hold on do they? Actually, I never thought about that. No, I was saying that was a question from you to me after we were recording. Yeah, I was like, hey, Jack, can I ask you something? Why do things die? Why do things die, man? Help me out here real quick. Yeah.

All right, Bridget, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about we're going to look at this uh article from former ceo of uh permanente which is like one of the biggest hospital uh chains in the country uh he's a doctor and he just had some good perspective on like sort of where we're at and what it actually means to kind of open the country back up, like what that decision is actually about. We got yet another just keeping the ball in the air with regards to our interest in Mike Pence's decision not to wear the mask at the Mayo Clinic. So we'll talk about that. That came at the end of last week. Trump is mad.

He's furious. He can't believe that there's polling numbers. I think there was a quote from him that, I'm not going to lose to fucking Joe Biden. He has this entitlement because he's like killing biden at uh at fundraising and so he just thinks you know this this should be easy uh i actually uh woke up this morning to an email from one donald j trump uh because i i get that bright bart uh mailing i'm on that bright bart mailing list to just kind ofbart mailing. I'm on that Breitbart mailing list to just kind of keep an eye on.

You know, because I'm on that Breitbart board of trustees. Exactly. You know me. But yeah, it was interesting to see the tone he's taking right now. And then we're going to try and pick a movie to rewatch over the weekend for our Monday rewatch. We are going to look at America's horniness as it relates to the rest of the world. All of that. There's all these COVID documentaries that are heading our way. All that, plenty more. But first, Bridget,

we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? What a good question. Something from my search history that is revealing about who I am. The last thing I did a Google deep dive on was Janet Hubert, a.k.a. the original mom on Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. I don't know if you saw recently, they had a little mini reunion of the Fresh Prince cast. I don't know if you saw recently, they had a little mini reunion of the Fresh Prince cast. And my whole thing is, you know, if y'all don't know, Janet Hubert was originally the first, and I would say the best, the most iconic mom on the show.

And then she was replaced by another actress. And she clearly never got over this. This has been a beef that she has held for 30 years. She has commented on it for 30 years. Anytime that the Fresh Prince cast has anything, she responds and is still salty to this day. That woman is a pillar of salt. And honestly, I respect it.

So I saw that the Fresh Prince cast had reunited and I thought, oh, I have to see if Janet had something to say or had something to say, had some response. Yeah, I just really respect a long held beef. Like it's been 30 years still mad yeah yeah what happened wait so did she have anything to say or no she i didn't find that she had anything to say but the last time the cast reunited like two years ago she was like of course these assholes are reuniting without me like same old shit like still angry what so

basically her version of events is that colorism honestly like between you and me obviously yeah i'm like because i get it i uh aunt viv uh became a few shades lighter when she definitely did when what's her name um daphne maxwell reed took over oh good memory i haven't pulled up right now because i want to make sure i have everyone's names right i't want to say new Aunt Viv. New Aunt Viv. I know. I shouldn't have said that. She deserves to have her full name. Yes, yes.

All three names. All three names. It sounds like what happened was that when the show initially started, it wasn't supposed to be just about Fresh Prince, just about his character. You know, all the other side characters had plot lines. Aunt Viv was an African American studies professor.

She had her own plot lines, like the episode where she wants to be a dancer. Oh, the African dance episode. Right. She had good plot lines. And so it sounds like as the show progressed, audiences just really wanted more Will Smith. And she was like, wait, no,

I didn't sign on to be on the Will Smithith show i signed on to be on like on a show and so they wrote her off you know more bel-air less fresh prints is what she's been sold yes and you know to this day she is still so salty about it like it clearly made a huge impression on her um i don't blame her i i just kind of respect that she's been angry for this long like if this beef if this beef was if this beef was a person it would be in its 30s like it's been she's been nurturing it for so long yeah i mean she was in the original broadway production of cats so i'll have you know i will not be i don't i've never seen it so i don't know how to pronounce the name, but it says Hubert was the original Tantamile in the first Broadway run of Cats. So maybe she had that cat's head on where she was like, no, I don't know who this young man is who just randomly met Quincy Jones.

This show will be about me. Well, I respect the beef, though. I respect it. Aunt Viv was my age at the start of Fresh Prince, according to Wikipedia. So that makes me feel old as fuck. What do you mean? Oh, at the time where she took the role?

Yeah. No, I googled Aunt Vivian, and they break out the actress Janet Hubert for one through three. Daphne Maxwell-Reed, four through six. And then age of the character, 39 through 45. So that was 40. This is 40. Yeah, it's funny.

They seem so, like, old on a show. Like, when I was watching as a kid, I was like, oh, they're so grown up. Now I'm like, oh, oh yeah that's basically my age that doesn't that fuck you up though because you get you sort of you live with these perceptions of what an age is and what it looks like and what the behavior is and then you grow up and then you're like don't subscribe to those weird beliefs and you're like am i in my mid-30s i feel like i'm 14 i think yeah in some parts of my mind like it's weird how yeah like because in my mind i'm like nah man when you're like when you're like 38 like you look like an old person because that's what tv looked like as from my perspective as a child it's i definitely

identify my age more as uh hillary's age than aunt viv's age. Right, right. Like Hillary seemed very old and mature and cool to me when I was a kid first watching that show. At the oldest, I'm Hillary at this point. I can't see myself being older than anyone, but I'm probably Uncle Phil. My brother used to have such a massive crush on the actress that played Hillary. He would like, he's going to be so embarrassed

that I'm saying this. I hope he never hears it. He would like write her letters. Like he was obsessed with her. Who wasn't? Catherine Parsons was, oh, I loved her too.

When she was in a major pain, I was like, here we go. She's crossing over into the mainstream. Everyone will know the queen. Wasn't she? What else was she in? Was she in ladies,

man? She wasn't, she's been in a few things since then. But I don't, I don't know. I don I don't know what exactly she made of her career, like whether or not she was trying. I don't know. What happened? Karen Parsons.

I said Catherine Parsons. Oh, excuse me. Yeah, put some respect on her. Yeah, I absolutely botched that. I apologize. Bridget's brother is so pissed off right now. I know. He's going to find you.

I know. What is something you think is underrated, Bridget? Something I think is underrated and this is coming from someone who is not a sports person at all. Dennis Rodman in the 90s. You know, people have been talking about Dennis Rodman lately. I unfortunately have

nothing to add from a sports perspective, but I watched this clip and it's also related to my overrated thing as well. I watched this clip and it's also related to my overrated thing as well. I watched this clip of Oprah interviewing him and he's talking about his gender and his sexuality. And it's funny because when I was young, I feel like everybody treated him like a joke. Like he was some big freak.

And what he was saying was about gender and about sexuality was actually like very progressive. He was talking about how he thinks in some, in some capacities he could be like gay or bi mentally, but he grew up around women. And so he was always sort of discomfort, like not comfortable around men,

you know, really being honest about gender and playing with gender in all these interesting ways. And I feel like at least in my community back then, he was like a freak to laugh at when actually he was like really progressive. And if he had said that shit today, we would be applauding him. But back then, we treated it like a big joke. Yeah.

No, totally. By 90s standards, he was like something to gawk at. But I totally agree. He was like, he would have been... It really is interesting to think about what his career would be like if he were in the league today. Absolutely. Yeah.

Also, it's interesting how he would also play with that because he would do one thing. It would start off small where people would point something out and then he would antagonize. He'd be like, all right, watch me turn this up even more to the point is like,

watch me wear this wedding dress. Right. And then now you have some type of, because before you were uncomfortable because I had too many earrings and my fingernails were painted. Right. Now try this one on. Definitely.

I loved that. And I think we, I feel like he really held, did a good job of holding a mirror up to our misconceptions and our anxieties and our discomfort around a lot of things when it comes to gender and sex. And the fact that Michael Jordan had to go drag him out of bed on the Vegas strip during the season, like personally with his own Michael Jordan hands is pretty, is a great detail. What is something you think is overrated? This is a little controversial. It's a fuego take. I'm i'm gonna own it it's tough for me to say

this but oprah winfrey i have to say i mean i've been at oprah i've been at oprah's day my whole life color purple is one of my favorite movies like her performance in it was life-changing for me but like a i watched the interview where dennis rauman is being interviewed by oprah and she constantly is like are you gay are you gay are you bi are you bi and he's like expressing this very progressive layered expression of gender and sexuality and she can only and again it's the 90s so you know whatever but she can only understand it through so are you gay or what like that's the only way she can understand it and today you know in the time of coronavirus if we're gonna be really real the reason why we have a lot of these like huckster fake doctors like your Dr. Oz's and your Dr. Phil's is Oprah. And so, Oprah, I love you, but like.

Do something, Oprah. Yeah. Like, it's not cool. It's almost like, yeah, you'd like Oprah to do something about it. Like, or at least Owen be like, hey, like, talk to them. Pull them aside, Oprah. Do something. Be like, hey, I gave you this fucking, don't do this with the fucking platform. about it like or at least owen be like hey like talk to them pull them aside do something you're like hey i gave you this fucking don't do this with the fucking platform exactly so i don't want

to you know blame a woman for the behavior of a man but she did give these people a platform and i just i part of me is like oprah honey like dr phil is saying wild shit on tv about coronavirus like come on yeah and even dr oz is like yeah old people can die what's the problem i have no problem i have no problem uh when she like when she first gave the world doctors phil and oz did were were they um as bad as like i feel like they might have taken things up a step or two since then but i i do think the rodman thing is really interesting to think about because i i do feel like she's always been really good at like mining the zeitgeist like knowing what like she's on she's

almost a a mirror for like what we are warts and all like she's good at like being in touch with what everybody's you know general thoughts and ideas and morality is at a given time and you'll see like outdated shit if you look back at you know what what she was saying and doing in the 80s and 90s yeah i think that's true i i completely agree that she really has a way of putting her finger on something in the culture and sort of poking at it and perhaps just like revealing dark stuff about all of us that we maybe don't want to put a mirror up to and like you know i think in the 90s people were obsessed with like our is so is so and so gay is so and so gay like that that is how we that's like how we understood how a lot of people

understood sexuality and like there was like i mean i remember growing up where like the worst thing you could be was gay and that like if someone was gay or even the insinuation they had to like go on tv and you know have a press conference about it so really i mean she wasn't alone in in that in that attitude of course well yeah i mean, because there was still a lot of spectacle in her show too. Like aside from like early on, there were a lot of things I was just like, yeah, make a mess, Oprah. Let's see this shit.

And then other times, then I think as she got, it's interesting because yeah, you see her evolve as a host too and producer of her content. But I was just reading the first time she met Dr. Phil was when she was being sued by cattlemen in the beef industry in texas and she had hired dr phil to counsel her through this difficult period and

that's when she learned her head-on approach to life counseling through dr phil so yeah that's uh we have we have this lawsuit uh with the beef industry to thank for the emergence of dr phil were they mad at her first saying beef was like not good for you basically they were claiming yeah she was defaming the industry uh with some segment that she had done so jesus yeah can't win in this you should go back and watch some of her old shows and segments like you said like some of them are fucking wild remember when she lost all that weight and she pulled a wagon full of fat out on the show to demonstrate how much weight she lost it was like literally a wagon stacked with like fat to

demonstrate how much fat she had lost yeah it was i remember i think who someone i think made lampoon to like it was like in living color or somebody did something of a similar yeah look oh here hold on let me hit y'all with the wild screen share. Real quick, this is the beauty of Zoom now, since we can't all be there. That's the wagon. It looks like socks. What do? Oh, my God.

Bill Clinton's cat? Yeah, there's just all kinds of, I must actually, there's an archive, right, where you can get all old Oprah's because I think I need to do that it is wild like that is a rabbit hole I will gladly go down but I mean I think she had

people on who were helping perpetuate the myth of the satanic panic in the 80s and I know that the rainbow party sexual moral panic is specifically associated with her. So, I mean, she's got those shows in her past

that are the dumbest that America has to offer. Yeah. I think in the end, we look at Oprah as a fucking near God. So she should be able to, from Mount Olympus, just take back Dr. Phil and Dr. Oz's fame that she so generously gave. She should be able to take it away. And I would like to see her exercise that power as our protector and maker of lists of things we should buy on Amazon Prime.

Absolutely. And finally, Bridger, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? This is another Fuego take. I've been defending this take on Twitter all yesterday. I think it is a myth that wealthy white tech dudes who are known for one specific thing or got big on one specific success

it is a myth that those guys are uniquely smart or uniquely geniuses or are the kind of people that we should be going to for guiding advice or guiding you know takes on other issues and i'll say it i'm talking about elon musk elon musk yes like what i'm gonna say it. I'm talking about Elon Musk. Elon Musk. Yes. What? I'm going to say it. I'm going to go there. Elon Musk maybe isn't that smart of a guy. Like he's tweeting wild shit about coronavirus,

dangerous, unhelpful shit about coronavirus. And it's one of those things where certainly he's very successful. He has a lot of business acumen. I'm not going to say that's not true, but I think this idea that we should be listening to him for thoughtful takes about a public health pandemic is is out of this is like wild yeah you know and i think that like i think that someone who has demonstrated that they can't be trusted with their own platform perhaps is not someone who is like uniquely a genius also somebody who invites like chaos agent azalea banks into their

home and life maybe that's not smart right like maybe maybe he like has some blind spots and we should like take him as he is yeah i mean inviting azalea banks into your home it will always end with some kind of twitter moment right like if you do that right if you do that you get what you get like like how smart could you really be well yeah she was collaborating with grimes on a song right and she like live tweeted being there and then not being there or something she live tweeted being in his house and basically she was like oh all he does is do drugs all day like they're so fucked up and her being in his home led to his own shareholders subpoenaing both Grimes and Azalea Banks about his business. So like, clearly, that was not a savvy business decision.

He's just, you know, it's like, it's like anything, you have these Bill Gates and Elon Musk figures that help like a certain, we can we can sort of project our own ambitions onto them, be like, you see, they just did it on their own, but not knowing the extreme privilege Bill Gates even came from, like how early he was interacting with computers before anyone else, or even like Elon Musk, how we always talk about growing up with fucking rubies and shit, loose rubies in his pockets. It's like we all do.

Yeah. Like when you start there, when there, when there's that much capital around you as a child, you're already starting a few levels up. And so your, your shitty ideas, you'll be around people who help you mold those very quickly.

And you can, you can move from there, but yeah, like it's, you know, it's like, they help us feel like, you know,

there's like the new Tony Starks or some shit where it's like, this guy's sick, dude. He makes flamptons, smokes weed. It's like fucking, he calls divers who shit where it's like, this guy's sick, dude. He makes flamethrowers, smokes weed. He calls divers who are trying to rescue kids pedophiles. Such a hero, man. Yeah.

Yeah. There's this weird thing that happened where Jeffrey Dahmer came into the public eye right after Silence of the Lambs came out and everybody was obsessed with cannibals. silence of the lambs came out and everybody was obsessed with cannibals and we sort of like manifested this like real world cannibal into existence and i think i think that aspect of him was over exaggerated but there are these weird times when like really iconic um fictional characters pop up and then we like create our real world version. I agree that, uh, Elon Musk, we just,

we needed a Tony Stark character, uh, like somebody who could help be the figurehead. And, uh, so like the cool person who knows how to do stuff while like tech was kind of taking over our world and becoming cool. Yeah. And I think, while like tech was kind of taking over our world and becoming cool yeah and i think but it's easy

to get to feel like that he's larger than life because when you look at the things that are being achieved they're not insignificant by any stretch of the imagination so it's not like a total fucking smoke and mirror show and i don't mean to say that anyone who's like wowed by him is wrong i think you can understand sure those are cool, but his takes on everything else, I can't... Dude, tell me about ugly-ass trucks and electric cars. Fuck, aside from that, bro, I don't care about your music taste because you can't rap. You look all dusty. There's nothing about you else I need to know outside of your expertise. So let's leave it there, sir. That's exactly how I feel. I think that we,

I think you're totally right that we need these larger than life figures. And then we assume that because someone is good at something specific, that that means that they're going to be a genius when it comes to everything. And I just think that like, if there's one thing that this pandemic has taught us that is that not everybody has like a useful or helpful take. And just because you're good at one thing doesn't mean you're going to, that that's going to apply to like a literal public health emergency. Right. I mean, yeah, I guess at the end of the day too,

it's just your ego, right? Like you feel compelled to scream shit that you don't scream about shit. You don't know about because your ego cannot help itself. That's why he's like, this is fascism. Like to shut the fuck up and nobody, I get it. You have a captive audience on a shareholder call or whatever, but like, this is fascism. I'm like, dude, shut the fuck up, man. Nobody. I get it.

You have a captive audience on a shareholder call or whatever. But leave it alone. Yeah. I mean, the other thing is that people being smarter than other people is maybe a level of they're 20%, 30% smarter. But because of the society that we live in they're like a million times richer and more powerful and therefore it just like i think that also gets reflected in there and just like how we judge them and we just assume well they must be a million times smarter and

there's just no such thing totally wait what did you say that mix was between knowledge and skill? I was just saying that a person who's smarter than other people might be 20%, 30% smarter, but because these people are millions of times richer than other people and more powerful, I think that gets projected onto how we we view these people and it's just right well and i think it's pretty i think it's pretty well documented right because it's 10 luck 20 skill 15 concentrated power of will 5 pleasure 50 pain and 100 reason to remember the name. Okay, I got to go. Wait, what is that from? That Fort Minor song.

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including a rundown of the US Open every Monday. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast every Monday And we're back. And there's an article by a guy who used to be the CEO of Permanente. So he has some experience in overall public health policy. But he's like one of those good Kaiser Foundation heads where afterwards he wrote books about it. Or I don't know. I mean, based on the titles of his books,

he's like, yeah. Why the healthcare system isn't really working for you. Yeah. You know, he's like one of those dudes that is like, I mean, guys,

we provide a one service to every single human being in the United States. Yeah, exactly. So he recognized that the system is fucked. And, uh, he also just cut, he wrote this article that i thought underlined like three

ways that we're not thinking about the process of reopening in the most accurate way one of the things he points out is that whenever we stop sheltering in place and we we will have to stop uh the virus will come back and people will get sick um like that the idea is we aren't quarantining and like hoping the virus will go away while we're quarantining we're quarantining to give hospitals time to make room for us when we get sick and you know prepare doctors so we don't make doctors sick but he's like this isn't like fatalistic or pessimistic this is just a biological fact that like once people stop social distancing uh you know people the we'll see the numbers go back up again right well i think some people are actually connecting like their own personal boredom with like yeah dude i'm so bored so this coronavirus is probably fucked right now

yeah and then he he was also just talking about how um yeah i mean it kind of all ties back to that but like the idea of i i had assumed that we could still like you know once we started testing and people knew like whether uh they had it or not we could like quarantine and sort of it would go away and he said that that ship sailed back in february like it's too widespread to do the contact tracing that they did in China. In order to reopen the country, you just need to go location by location and look at stuff like whether the

hospitals have space for all the people who are going to get sick when you reopen. Then just put things in place, policies in place, in those locations and have testing so that you know you have people have some idea of whether they have have the virus or not and then he just uh emphasized the importance of are not uh i've been seeing more and more headlines about the fact that

like the numbers that we're paying attention to which is like number of people who have it and the number of people who have died are not like that first of all they're somewhat arbitrary because we're undercounting the number of people who died and vastly undercounting the number of people who have it because of how bad the testing is uh but it's also just kind of a confusing number. And the best way to look at it is something called R naught, which is the rate, like basically, if a disease has an R naught, it's written like R and then a little like zero below.

Not like N-A-U-G-H-T. Yeah. And if it has a R-naught of one, that means for every one person who gets sick, they will pass the disease on to one other person. So the rate will be flat. And so anything over one, and you're going to see the curve bending upwards and anything under word under one you're going to see the curve bending downwards and so he's

just saying like that is the most important number to pay attention to uh the founders of instagram created a website called rt live uh which is rate of transmission um and they have it broken out by state and it's basically you know we've made progress through social distancing through having like 90 of the country shut down uh and so all of these are not uh numbers are going from like well over one to under one over the course of the past month. But they'll go right back up once we stop social distancing. So that's kind of the number to be paying attention to because it also takes into account population size. It was interesting.

It's like a short article, but it's definitely going to change the way that I am looking at and thinking about the overall issue. Yeah, something that you said that I really want to amplify and like, plus one, is the idea that we really don't because of how the testing is run, we really don't know and probably won't know the actual numbers of who got it, who died from it. That's one of my biggest concerns is that after this is all over, we won't even ever get a clear picture of what we were dealing with. And I just, I hate the idea that this history that we're living through is just going to be erased and not preserved. And we won't even have an accurate count of what's happening. That's something that I guess I associate that more with a bygone history. In 2020, I would think that we would be able to preserve an accurate count of what we all

recently lived through, and coming to realize that that's not the case is really not just scary, but sort of, I don't know, like psychically disorienting in a kind of way. sort of, I don't know, like psychically disorienting in a kind of way. Well, I think also, too, we could put the effort into it and endeavor to try and accurately determine what the true cost was by, you know, speaking to health experts like people in other countries have said, you know, how much they suspect actually what other deaths they would probably as doctors attribute to this because of lack of care and things like that. But just knowing that the tactics that have been being taken here of just being like,

well, let's not test our initially, we just didn't want to test because we didn't want to get an embarrassing number on the test. So let's not test. So yeah, I mean, yeah.

Having to know that we're also fighting that, like, you know, the suppression of that knowledge uh is really also totally fucked up and frightening yeah absolutely i mean with puerto rico and hurricane maria the way that they like eventually figured out was just like looking at the overall rate of deaths like at that time normally and then comparing that to overall rate of deaths like during the time after uh the hurricane and i feel like that's probably what we'll end up having to

resort to here although there are uh orders in place in a lot of places in america that are like preserve the body or at least a tissue sample so that we can test everything like once the crisis is over just so we have a better idea um but yeah there's a lot of chaos and a lot of political forces at work which is a bummer i was just kind of looking or just thinking about just with puerto rico and the death toll like how there were so many competing numbers uh and you know i'm not sure that the official version, you know, that's the thing. It's like, we can compare that and say, that's probably what happened.

But the version that the government is going to acknowledge is like, no, it wasn't that bad. And I think that's where, you know, that's where I think the real hard bit of coming out of this is going to happen, where we have to really look in the eye, like all the people we've let down and how quickly some people will be willing to ignore that, like our own neighbors, and rather would move on to the comfort of a world where such widespread pain didn't exist. You know, I'm I'm hope hopefully people can confront that a bit more coming out of this, because I think that's the only positive thing we can take out of this is try and not, you know, replicate this kind of disregard for our neighbors that got us and this was not surprising to me. As soon as I heard that COVID was ravaging black and brown communities,

I knew that was going to change the public perception of the virus. I knew it. I knew it immediately. And it's just, I think even, I mean, I take no joy in saying this and it pains me to say, I think a lot of people even progressive people

even people that i like respect i think there is something about black and brown death black and brown pain that like doesn't hit the same way for them and i think that like it's no surprise that all of these reopen michigan reopen this reopen that all of these rallies we saw after it became clearer which communities were at the most at risk for this. I think that's not an accident. I think that this will hopefully, like you were saying, Miles, we will have to look at some hard truths,

look at some stuff we don't want to look at about ourselves, about how we treat our neighbors, about how we view them, if we view them the same way as we view ourselves like yeah i think we're really gonna have to do a lot of looking within to at the end of all this i hope we do and you know and i challenge people to look within yourself to think of what your response is to hearing things like that and not to judge yourself but you know we we're a product of this entire system that we've been you know raised in as americans so look at that for a second at least

give yourself the moment to say oh maybe i i'm looking at that not as humanely as i could i might not be looking that in this with the same amount of compassion as i might if it were someone who looked exactly like me came from the exact place I did. It's hard. It is fucking hard. You don't develop those kinds of skills overnight. And I understand. I'm a bit pessimistic. I don't count on most people coming out of this learning those lessons. But I'm hoping that people, because there is this time of like you know relative slowness uh in terms of like the the pace of life that you can for a moment take stock and understand that we are living in like a system that is breaking down um and it's and you might just be it's just like looking at a piece of bread that has mold on it you just not at the moldy part yet but the motherfucker is molding so you can be do the hard

bit and recognize that maybe your piece of bread is not has not molded over yet but it's coming and we need to really look out for the parts that are moldy okay moldy bread metaphor over i mean i just want to i i agree so much i want to share something i think if i can have like a vulnerable moment you know it isn't easy to acknowledge your blind spots and your privileges and all of this. I had a moment earlier in the week where, you know, I, so I'm a huge Beyonce fan. I love Beyonce in the beehive, in the beehive, all of that. Beyonce's mother, Tina Knowles, shared an image on Instagram of a family friend who unfortunately passed away from coronavirus. And she shared a picture of how Beyonce, when she was a child, was a flower girl at her wedding. This woman, I think, was a medical professional or a first responder or a nurse.

And, you know, I shared that. And I was like, oh, like thinking of the Knowles family, you know, this is so sad. And someone was like, why are you thinking of the Knowles family? Why are you not thinking about this, like, woman who was a nurse who was at the front lines of this pandemic? Shouldn't she be the one that you're keeping in your thoughts, not necessarily Beyonce and her family? And I was like, you know what, you're right. And I had to really take a beat and be like, what is it in me that when I heard this news, my first thought was like, oh, poor Beyonce, poor Knowles family. And not like, wow, this woman

was a nurse. She died. She lost her life fighting this pandemic. And I immediately just like, and I had to really sit with that. It was uncomfortable. I had to really sit with like, well, is it the fact that Beyonce is a celebrity and that I really like her, you know, and that I feel like I know her in like heavy quotes,

you know, I had to really do some sitting with that. And it wasn't fun and it wasn't comfortable, but I really had to, I should be able to some sitting with that. And it wasn't fun and it wasn't comfortable, but I really had to, I should be able to be better than that. And I have to interrogate why I wasn't in that moment. And so I think that it's, I think you're right. This is a moment for all of us

to be doing that kind of thinking. And it's not easy. We're all products of this. No. All right. Let's talk about the president and how he's feeling right now because the the stress might be getting to him he apparently recently just berated his uh

campaign manager uh brad parske parscale parscale uh doesn't matter no you don't he doesn't deserve the respect of a proper pronunciation of his name but he went uh he was the digital guy on the first campaign and now he's the full-on campaign manager yeah you know you don't want that job it seems like it seems like the president now that some bad numbers are coming out following you know his discussion of how we should be injecting bleach uh our doctor well well i didn't say i'm just saying that it could be it could you could have a function of disinfecting that was the intent i never said that okay and if i was i was joking but yeah i think it's tough sunlight yeah exactly oh man let me get a fucking let me get a jumbo some sunlight real quick

got red tops of sunlight so brad parscale he really tried uh it seemed like you know it was clear to most people what the the campaign roadmap was just fucking ring the bell of the economy like we've never don't risk it now don't risk it now come on home to donald trump where we don't give a fuck about anybody but we'll pretend for until november so after you know the pandemic hit it basically just upended everything and because these people are so inelegant in their thinking and that is such a nice way of saying it uh They are really scrambling to figure out what the fuck to do. So I think one of the first things was that, you know, people were saying, OK, maybe do these get in front of these people or whatever. Get your name out there because you can't do rallies anymore because that's what he loves.

And then the shit started going south in the rallies because these weren't like leaks that were happening. He was just doing this shit in full view of the public with cameras rolling and naturally the numbers started tanking so at trump got so pissed he threatened to sue parscale parscale uh because the numbers were so bad now just he threatened to sue his campaign manager because he was like what the fuck are these poll numbers i should sue you for not doing your job yo it is amazing so again this is a man who's completely incapable of even understanding what his role is in reality and existing uh as another life form and how other people may view you

as this existing life form. So another interesting thing in some of these articles say that a few days before the Lysol, great Lysol PowerPoint presentation he did, he was confronted with like really bad poll numbers, not just from Parscale,

but from Mitt Romney's niece, Ronna. What's her other? Anyway, she's the chair of the RNC. And these numbers were basically saying, Joe Biden will fucking smoke you in November because these performances are so fucking bad. And they were begging him. They said, look, if you can't stop doing the briefings, our suggestion is the reason these numbers are bad is because of these fucked up briefings. Now we can dial them back. Or if you got to be out there, just don't answer any questions.

That's something they suggested to him. Damn. Being quiet would actually be better. You know what you could do to improve your numbers? Just stop talking. Yeah. I mean, you know what you could do to improve your numbers? Just stop talking. Yeah. I mean, that's what they're saying, but they have to say it in weird-ass ways of like, you can do them, but just don't answer questions.

He's not going to understand what you mean. He just means, yeah, fine. Okay, I'll just say what the fuck I want then up there, which is essentially what is going on. So it's really, really, I think, indicative of the fact that he really is failing to understand. We've seen time and again, he's failing to understand just the essential science around this pandemic. He's failing to understand his own role as a leader. And even in a, like a fucking broader sense, like an existential fucking level this man is does not even understand how his existence is affecting what the news is about himself the president of the united states and will sue his campaign manager it's so it's so like if it wasn't something that we were living

through it would almost be funny right like if it wasn't something that we were living through, it would almost be funny, right? Like if it wasn't something that we had to like deal with, it's so out there that it would almost be humorous to have, to have a president that is this, not just as bad at leading, but this bad at like understanding how people see him. You know what I mean? Like if someone told me you're making things worse by just talking,

so just shut up. That really would tell me a lot. No, you're a hater. You're a hater. You're a hater. Because that's the other thing, too. They say he famously always does this. If polls are bad or if data is bad, he doesn't believe it.

He just doesn't believe it. That's just how it works. So no one and a lot of insiders saying like the mistake they made was showing him poll numbers that were bad because it's never going to it. Well, it's never gonna it will it's never worked it will never work all right guys let's take one more break and we'll come back with uh some bullshit when you think of mexican culture you think of avocado mariachi delicious cuisine and of course lucha libre it doesn't get more Mexican than this.

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and we're back and uh one kind of topic of conversation that i've seen many different uh kind of opposing takes on is is horniness during the core corniness yeah um so what one piece of evidence we had been kind of looking at in the past was a report that Chinese drugstores were completely out of condoms. And that was like their version of toilet paper. But people are now saying that that might have had more to do with the supply chain than it does with how much sex everybody was having. Well, that and like people just, I think, maybe projecting what they thought their,

they thought it was going to be COVID coitus fest 2020. And it was like, I better get 9,000 condoms because trust me, I haven't examined the existential damage that's being done by this. But one thing I know, I'm in a house with someone else that I have consensual sex with. Oh, that's what's happening. cut to worldwide global depressive states from people who are not horny um and are just sort of like because at first i so you know we've i thought and most of us thought logically we're like yeah probably yeah people probably having more sex

they're indoors but yeah condom sales are just way down actually like in europe and in the united states and that actually makes more sense when we now that we are living in this reality like no one's moving around freely uh to like socialize or date like they used to um and actually it seems like all this confusion and chaos around us and uncertainty makes us less horny? I don't know. I think it's maybe ramped up other parts of our, like, libidos in, like, bizarre ways, maybe other than, like, pure physical needs where you're, like, you know, admiring the cactus, the cacti in your yard, but, you know.

You're, like, rubbing the Mrs. Butterworth bottle. Yeah. Like, ooh, she's kind of thick. They're like, I have her under my pillow so no one sees i'm like there you go my midnight lover oh yeah i mean oh quarantine horniness it's funny i was i was peeking into tinder because i was just curious like what's tinder like during the quarantine so many tinder profiles i saw were like if you're not willing to break quarantine don't bother swiping like i do think people are still out there like getting it in the quarantine oh they are i mean i know single friends who are like like working on like you know you thought they were working on like another

negotiation with like cuba or something like top level high level diplomatic negotiations in terms of like their own contact tracing diplomatic negotiations in terms of like their own contact tracing what time windows have looked like since they had interacted with other people in what context that was if they are then willing to then just be it's weird it's like forcing some people be like exclusive though too because they're like look if we do this fuck it like you'll be the only person whose house i go to like i'm not seeing anybody else and they're like it's it's like a weird you know uh sub sub exclusivity subliminally getting it in there yeah i've never felt more for people who have like secret families people who are like

creeping on the side it's got to be tough out there for them i've never felt secret families secret families someone is family community. Oh, those poor guys. It's in tatters. You know how many children think their father is dead? Oh, my God. You know how many because of this? Because the man cannot dip out to see the secret family anymore? They will have to say that he's dead.

I don't know. What else are you going to do? I don't know what you do. Or else you say. I don't know. What else are you going to do? I don't know what you do or else you say, that's, I don't know, is it easier to say, look, your dad's a scumbag and like he's got this other family.

We're like, you know, I don't know. Or you have a secret mother. Look, it's all secret family. Twitter, let us know. What's, how are you, how are you handling this? Very curious.

All three, I don't want to like tell tales out of school all three of us are quarantining with a like a partner no i am you two both are yeah i mean i i think it's different when you're in a like long-term like committed thing you know it's like i think a lot of my friends who i see on instagram like making sourdough starter kids i know they wouldn't be doing that if they had somebody in their house they could have sex with i guess that's what i'm saying no that was like that was funny because that was like a reductor's tweet last week or something right yes yes right like it's like yeah are you bon appetit focaccia recipe levels of

horny or do you live someone you have consensual sex with right i think yeah i really think that's true but yeah the other thing though back to the supply chain, though, Jack, is the thing that, you know, the global condom shortage is probably going to be a reality because in Malaysia, there's strict lockdown rules and they are one of the top rubber producers and major sources of condoms. Um, so it's like, I think one of the, this one company care X, they make one in five condoms. Uh, they're saying like, they've had to close three of their factories and they're probably doing 200 million fewer condoms than normal, uh, during this period. So they're saying, Hey, look, if you don't need them, maybe save them. Cause that's, I mean, contraception is very important to other parts of the world where like, they don't have the same access to medical care so that's actually a sort of darker dimension to all of that to say like they're kind of being

like okay maybe we also need to be really mindful of this because of now not just the it's not the lack of horniness it's because we can't work work the rubber factories right right and you do call them rubbers you're always calling them rubbers i'm always calling them rubbers i think that's what our dads called them yeah i think i've ever called it a con i don't think i've called it what have i ever called it i think condom i don't think i've ever used a fucking a connie a jimmy hat yeah jimmy's ali g calls them yeah jimmy's was like a thing for a month in the early 90s but i feel like they well jimmy cap was definitely 90s rap gave us jimmy raps but sex pack but then at that time i wasn't trying to make that a thing yeah i was like hey girl uh i need to

go to the store to get one of those Lisa Left Eye Lopez eye patches real quick. Yes, honestly. Like, kudos to Lisa Left Eye Lopez for, like, rocking the condom over her eye and, like, teaching us all about, like, you know, safe sex. Like, talking about it. Honestly. My uncle used to be the director of Soul Train or, like, the AD on Soul Train. And I would go as a kid, like, whenever there were artists that I always wanted to see. And I saw TLC in that era. and i remember that was another uncomfortable conversation my dad had to have with me because she had this was the condom eye patch phase of uh lisa left eye

lopez and he just said it like he just was very dismissive of what it was about uh but later on after the 1991 aids walk uh he told me what a condom was just a personal just to let you in on my uh mental history of condom knowledge i'm glad you i'm glad you figured it out eventually yeah well i took a handful uh because they were free at the aids walk and my dad like saw what i had you know because like at those things there's like swag bags he's like what'd you get and i'm like i'm all these condoms he's, what the fuck are you doing with these? I'm like, I don't know. They're free.

And you're six. You grab whatever's free. But, you know. And you still got them to this day, right? Still got them to this day. All right. Speaking of things to do instead of have sex, it's time to choose our rewatch movie for the weekend

yeah i put together a list of movies that are available on netflix i just kind of went through the top metacritic ones uh because they because they allow you to sort by what's on netflix what's on prime snowpiercer is on netflix that's a i feel like a that might be a decent pick it's a little got a little post-apocalyptic ism in there yeah and there's also i mean in bong joon is just so hot right now bong joon ho is so hot right now yeah uh so that's kind of at the top of my list we also also have Marvel's The Avengers just near the top because again, apocalyptic. And

everybody's seen it. I will say this. Another thing on your list that you have bolded and underwritten, underlined, is Her, which I've only seen the first 20 minutes of. Oh, I love that movie. It's funny. Why did you only see the first 20 minutes what

happened because i grew up in a house like screeners all the time so a lot of movies were like watched on dvd so i never had like i sometimes won't respect the sanctity of the running time of the film and i'll start watching something be like what oh come outside you want to smoke a blunt and then i pause it and then i forget what i'm doing. And then I haven't watched her. So, yeah, but I want to because people always have thoughts about it. But I don't know if it's because it's good or whatever. But, hey. I think it's good.

It's got the disembodied voice of Scarlett Johansson. So if that's your thing, you might give it a shot. Oh, yes. And you know how I love an actress of color so jack weeper bottle and then scott johansson's voice i think i think we picked our movie if it's gotta be i'd hate to pit two uh asian people against each other i know you know she's gonna be playing angela davis in an upcoming movie oh Oh my God. Oh, shit. All right, let's do her. We'll re-watch her.

Let's do her, yeah. That sounds like a plan. I mean, at least I know I'll bring fresh eyes. It's something I've not seen, so I may have fresher eyes. Fresh eyes. Yeah. Fresh eyes realize fresh eyes.

Okay, and then just in terms of, I figured there were probably quite a few documentaries coming our way about covet 19 and yeah they it turns out there are 20 in the works right now somehow in right now like in major like not just like oh we we just spoke to 20 people who were fucking around with a covid documentary like no like quibi fucking hulu people are like putting documentaries together but i don't know look i understand you this this moment should be documented i'm not talking i don't say that's not a worthy premise but some of these platforms seem to be wanting to take them to market like relatively quickly to capitalize on this and i don't know i can't imagine fucking anybody like wanting to

harm themselves more by getting more like entrenched in this story right i don't know yeah i i'm trying to imagine what they would look like. And I'm picturing like the COVID-19 commercials with all the like stock footage, because like you can't really go out and do physical productions. I think, well, they are. I think maybe these people are embedding themselves with them. So they're like, I'm not going anywhere. But, you know, they're all different. Like some are talking about like, I get it, like some projects focus on the food industry or like other nonprofit organizations.

And I think those are honestly, those stories are going to be harrowing and should 100% be entered into the public record and consciousness for people to understand just what the actual true toll is of this kind of thing. But it's just weird because part of these articles are talking about how like Quibi is is really trying to get theirs out it's like quibby come on now nobody asked you do we need this you're already yeah you're already hurting from stealing people's ideas on other shows yeah by the way abc news does a pretty good roundup of everything happening in COVID-19, and they are the number one TV show every day, basically, on all cable and network news.

People are really tuning in to ABC. And also, David Muir, the anchor, Othello doesn't know what to do with his hands, King. So I see him. Is that something you picked up at ABC News? Because you famously also worked at ABC News. I did work at ABC News when I was in my early 20s. And maybe, maybe it was all just, yeah, it's all related. It's the building, man.

Yeah. Bridget, it's been so wonderful having you, as always. Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me on Twitter at Bridget Marie. You can find me on Instagram at Bridget Marie in DC. And you can look out for my new iHeartMedia podcast coming out on July 7th

called There Are No Girls on the Internet. So hit me up at any of those places and I would love to keep talking. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes. I actually have two tweets, if that's okay. Yeah, yeah.

So the first tweet that I found that I loved is by Dave underscore Horwitz. The postal service does not exist to turn a profit. It exists to remind us that the freckles in our eyes are mirror images, and when we kiss kiss they're perfectly aligned remember that song i thought that was so clever but that was so i was gonna sing it but you know um and then another tweet um it was one of those tweets going around where you're meant to quote tweet it with your response and it said you know do you have a teacher that impacted you and stuck with you and changed your life and i was really thrilled to see that I got a shout out. A former student of mine from when I taught at Howard University, she quote tweeted that

and said, yes, she gave me a B and ruined my 4.0 and tagged me. So shout out to my former student, Phoenix. Wow. Thank you for calling me out for giving you a B like nine years ago. There you go. Hey, you respect an age-long beef, though. I do. We're coming full circle. I respect an age-long beef, though. I do. We're coming full circle.

I respect a long-held beef. You love a nice dry-aged beef. It's true. Miles, where can people find you? And what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Okay, I like so many tweets. One thing I just do want to shout out is, if you like the Fresh Prince,

there's a video that someone just extracted the part where the entire cast is looking at a montage of james avery aka uncle phil um and it will make you cry okay if you needed to cry even harder um a few tweets that i like oh man this is can't, I just can't pick just one. This is from at OK Claire. She just said, fuck, I just sexted someone realistically. And it's a screen grab of her text thread. It says, the person on the other side says, want to sext? She says, OK. OK, you start. I touch your penis with my hand while we kiss.

After a little bit, I let my hand go limp because my wrist is tired. I start worrying about carpal tunnel. I will not come. What? Another one. This is from ZZAC22. How old were you when the Guitar Hero crowd booed at you for trying your best? Oh, my goodness.. Oh my goodness.

Oh my goodness. Another one is from, this is from Jermaine Lussier. It says, here's a real thing I just found in my parents' house that I must have got in the junket swag bag and even then been so fascinated I kept it. Now, he's talking about press junkets

that happen for like films and things like that and this promotional item uh is going to shock you to your core when i show it to you it is a soul patch from the movie swordfish and it is a swordfish soul patch what the fuck so you can't be John Travolta's character that can't be real man that cannot be real it looks like some really boneheaded idea that someone would have lastly okay when you said soul patch

I immediately was like it can't be swordfish because John Travolta's soul patch in that movie is one of the all-time bad works of facial hair the travolta swordfish patch and then finally this is from dave mizzoni uh who says offering britney burns down her gym as today's disassociation portal i don't know if you've seen this clip where britney spears talks about how her gym burned down but again a fantastic way to describe it, a disassociation portal. Hi, guys. I'm in my gym right now.

I haven't been in here for like six months because I burnt my gym down, unfortunately. I had two candles and yeah, one thing led to another and I burnt it down. So one thing led to another. One thing led to another and yeah, I burnt it down. Yeah. It seemed like she was also like explaining it to a parent nervously. Like know and i burned it down i don't know mom like i had the candles there and like one thing that led to another and you know burn it down sorry i hope nothing actually tragic happened there but uh all praise be to comrade britney uh thank you those are my

tweets for today all right uh some tweets i've been enjoying uh Abril at Sadical tweeted, one of the prettiest colors to exist is that of the Baja Blast from Taco Bell. And that is true. And Karen Kilgareff tweeted, the tower of things I have stacked under my laptop to get a decent zoom angle is borderline caps for sale. I don't know if you guys know that book.

That cracked me up. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and

our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on miles what are we riding out on today this is a remix of an artist named mia doytad who's a great songwriter uh and her mother is actually an accomplished japanese american judge so shout out to her mother. But this is actually a remix by Flying Lotus of her song called My Room is White. And it's a really, really dope remix of a great song. And her vocals are great. But, you know, Fly Low had to do it.

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