The Daily Zeitgeist - Sexist NYTimes Readers, Disney Sucks At Pet Sitting 10.23.17

Episode Date: October 23, 2017

In episode 11, Jack & Miles are joined by Daniel Van Kirk to discuss The Snowman, Lupita Nyong'o's NY Times Op Ed piece, a round up of the weeks tabloids, the Handsmade Tale coming to life, the iPhone 8's lack of sales, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 3, Episode 1 of the Daily Zeitgeist for October 23rd, 2017. It's the season premiere. My God. It's good to be back. It's the one where we pay off all the cliffhangers.

We left dangling at the end of last season, revealed that this season takes place in the 70s. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, a.k.a. Young Jackfruit. the end of last season, revealed that this season takes place in the 70s. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, a.k.a. Young Jackfruit, a.k.a. Obi-Wan Play-No-D. That is my and-one nickname. And I'm joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Man, I wish I had a good a.k.a. like that. I'm actually blown away by, what is it, Young Obi play no D? Obi-Wan play no

D, like Obi-Wan play no D. Wow, I'm gonna have to go on the lab and get a better A.K.A. than that. Just call me Miles today. That was written by my friend Chris in college. I believe. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat today

by one of my favorite comedians and just one of the all time great podcast personalities. As his Wikipedia page says, he is, you know, I'm from hindsight with Daniel Van Kirk. Kirk, and he is also the co-host with the Sklar Brothers of Dumb People Town, which is one of the funniest shows going right now and also has the fucking catchiest theme songs that I can never get out of my head. It should be made illegal. Our guest is Daniel Van Kirk. Hey. Hey, Daniel.

Hey, man. What's good, Daniel? A lot. There's a lot of good. A lot of good in the world. I think that's something we have to remember lot there's a lot of good a lot of good in the world i think that's something we have to remember there's a lot of good the world underrated would that be oh yeah i get right into it man i don't fuck her segue yeah uh do i get to do those yeah ma'am well give us your underrated over how do you like them in a certain order i think we do google search first right and then get into under i'll do it hey Do you like them in a certain order? I think we do Google search first, right? And then get into underrated.

I'll do anything you want to do. Hey, man, you know what? This is fucking season three. You know what I mean? We're three seasons strong. Let's break the mold. We're trying something new. I'll do anything you want. Where do you want me to go?

What's a Google search from the past couple days that is revealing of your character? Little League Handshakes GIF. That's awesome. Are they great? No, I wanted to tweet one out when the Cubs lost to the Dodgers. Of just kids shaking handshakes after they lose the game.

Right. You know, the only, to my knowledge, the only of the major professional sports which one does handshakes after a series game hockey yep yeah and it's awesome yeah i played hockey growing up so it's just the coolest you let it go man yeah you have to yeah good game good game good game the lineups yeah and that's especially interesting because hockey players like go out there and just beat the shit out of each other

yeah it's like a yeah after battle there's a yeah there's a nobility to it yeah haunted hayride is another search well the griffith park one yep have you been have you been there yep it's fucking trash but in the funnest way i know like now do you know they have a new thing this year i'm excited because as we're recording this i'm going tonight okay it's called oh man knock and scare think. It's a haunted house. They have all these little door frames and little front of houses set up. You trick or treat those doors, you don't know what's going to answer on the other side. And they say that just that anticipation feeling of knock, knock, and then not knowing what's

is the best part. That's greater than whatever actually is on the other side. The thing I love about that place is the scaracters, as they call them in the industry. I would hear them on the Haunted Hayride argue with each other. You know, because it's like phases, right? That was my scare, man. That was my scare.

You jumped in on my scare. No, they would bicker like that. Like, dude, you're supposed to come out when the lights start flashing. You came out early. The music didn't even start. You jumped out early, dude. You make your noise,

and then they look, I'm already standing there. But I love it. It's a little bush league, but they. But I love it. You know, like, it's a little bush league, but they still have pride. They lean in, like, it's just, you know, we're not allowed to touch the guests,

but I will hit the fuck out of you. Can we cuss? I'm sorry if we can't cuss. Bro, you're overdoing it with the chainsaw. Yeah. Dial it back, dial it back. And then John Meehan and Debra Newell

from Dirty John. Oh. Because I needed to know what these people look like from that podcast. Do they disappoint? No, they're exactly what you think they're going to be. Just a couple of people

in a horrible story in Orange County. That's exactly what you think you're going to find. And then, people might be able to help with this. My college roommate and I one night, back when Disney Channel was just legit, and they would open the vault late at night. Yeah.

Yeah. And they did one of those old like remember they had those weird like nature live action movies that Disney did. Yeah. They did one about this. Well, this kid has to go off on like a like become a man journey. Right. And in this they're documenting the whole thing.

So a lot of it's staged, obviously. And he but it's also kind of real. He goes into a cave and this kid straight up fights a Wolverine. I'm not joking. And my roommate and I were losing. I'm like, because we were talking about the production of like, this is in college. And like, we're just, we're probably drunk. And we're like, dude, they told that kid like, are you going to go in here?

Right. He's going to be like, this is a big part where you're going to become a man. And he was like, we're not just go on into the. And he fought. I mean, he fought. There's no PETA. There's no animal rights. He fought a Wolverine.

And he won. It's crazy. I don't remember. Which makes me think that I think it maybe like runs away. Right. But they're in a cave like an Inuit and a Wolverine enter a cave. Disney walks out. So a crazy story about one

of those Disney nature documentaries White Wilderness uh was kind of the first one Disney won an academy award for it in 1958 it is the documentary where we first see lemmings uh like following each other off a cliff and that was actually staged by the filmmakers who just threw lemmings off a cliff, just like to their death. Wait, lemmings isn't just a video game? No, that's where that comes from. They'll follow wherever the trail is, they'll go. What do they look like?

I don't know. Oh, my God. They look like little marmots. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they were like, hey, you know, it'd be funny if these animals were dumb and jumped to their death. Well, that makes sense. i don't want to break anybody's heart but that's a real milo and otis situation right there oh shit yeah isn't that the worst when you hear about that story yeah you motherfuckers milo noticed it were they cruel

to milo and otis you don't know this no the scene where they like jump off the waterfall and then live they just threw a whole bunch of those cats and dogs off the water. Oh, no way. I thought you were just kind of, I, cause I know that scene, but wait,

so you're saying they threw off just pets off this water. I'm sorry to be the person saying that. I feel horribly. I hate it. I hate that. It's a thing. I don't even want to perpetrate it being something people have to know. I'm really sorry.

If you want to edit it out. No, no, no, we don't, we don't back off. That's incredible stories, man. Yo, we, we don't close our eyes to the realities of this natural world of ours. So overrated, underrated.

We got to move on. Okay, what do you want first? Overrated. Overrated, Walking Dead. And I know I'm not new to this, but I've been on this since season two, since the John Barenthal's character, spoiler alert, was killed. That was the moment that I'm like, I'm done with this show. And then I think I hung around for a little bit because when they drove like 50 miles an hour around in circles trying to get at Herschel's farm, perfectly shooting every zombie in the head.

And then that was more for me like, come on, guys. And then the next day when I was like, I'm done, they met up at the traffic jam on the interstate. And I think Shane Dogg or the black dude who was on the – he was going to shoot a zombie. And Rick goes, shh. So Rick walks up and kills it. And then two seconds later, Daryl pulls up on a Harley.

As though zombies would be like, what was that noise? Was that a gun? Was that a gunshot? We're coming. Just a hog. Yes. I could go into so many other things, but we don't have time. So Walking Dead, way overrated. And then the last overrated I have is Twitter moments. Twitter moments. Are way

overrated. We spend way too much time. I was thinking about this. If you went back 30 years, right? The news would be whatever in the paper. Right. And we would all know what news we're getting. Right. And we would all share whatever news, you go back farther, Walter Cronkite was giving us. That was the news.

Now, I'm not saying it was always accurate, but it was the news. And you couldn't walk away from it. You couldn't act like you didn't know about it. Now, we're either our news feeds are just so direct adjusted us. We only get the news we want to get, like, so we can act like we didn't know about it now we're either our news feeds are just so direct adjusted us we only get the news we want to get like so we can act like we don't care about puerto rico right and then the other thing is we spend too much time like a fake melania would not have been on the front page of the chicago tribune it wouldn't even be talked we wouldn't even know about it because for our actual what's happening in our world it doesn't matter it doesn't cut the must it doesn't need change it doesn't affect the mustard. It doesn't affect any change.

It doesn't have to do with anything that's really happening and hurting people's lives. But we can spend a half a day talking about it because it's a Twitter moment. And so everybody goes nuts about it. So I just feel like some of these moments are just way overrated for how much time. Well, I got a bombshell to drop in the Melania thing later on. Okay. But maybe it's not overrated. Hit us with some underrated.

You got it. Eagles, the band. Oh, I was hoping the bird. No. Eagles, you go listen to their, just the greatest hits from like 70 to 75 album. This is one band. I just don't feel like we appreciate Eagles. When we talk about like huge bands and like legendary iconic i know that they get their

respect they are eagles but i don't i just feel like they're underrated big lebowski just made me an eagles hater right for some reason yeah i let that really taint i'm also like i like i get the appeal of the eagles but also i i'm not i'm not a big fan i'm also i'm not actively a hater of the eagles i'm just like i'm gonna tell I'm going to tell you because I love you, Miles. It's just Eagles. Oh, really? It's not the Eagles? There's no the. Wow. Holy shit.

It's like Journey. You don't say, you know that the Journey? Well, yeah, that makes sense. Right. But it's just Eagles. Wow.

And they're very prickly about it is the only reason I'm telling you. Most people don't know this, but the band Fish is actually the Fish. No way. Yeah, yeah. No, no.

I'm just making that up. It sounds so weird when you're like oh i'm going to see the fish yeah and then lastly water parks underrated oh they're the best too many people like look down their noses at water parks and they're they're they're just a way for us to show other countries like we have so much water we're making a park we're fucking playing in it yes all right we have to move on to stories. Okay. But I think we know you. I think we know you by now. So

we wanted to open up with a hard-hitting, important pressing matter, which is why did anyone think that The Snowman was a good idea? The movie that came out this past weekend, which I couldn't quite get my head around as a film when I saw the commercial.

It stars Michael Fassbender, which he has not starred in many bad films. It is directed by the guy who made Let the Right One In, which is a foreign movie, but like one of the best movies like of the past 15, 20 years. And but but it seemed like it was just like a straightforward like thriller. And with people getting snow, snow heads, right. They're decapitated heads. Right. Right. On their decapitated heads. Right.

I won't get behind that. So the character's name, apparently, apparently is just way worse than any of us could have imagined. The character's name that Michael Fassbender plays is Harry Hole, which is just unbelievable. It sounds like it was just, like, built to, like, be a punchline, a joke your uncle would tell to ruin Thanksgiving. And his name was Harry Hole. And his partner, Mike Hunt. Right, right, right, exactly. That's my favorite fake name. So it's about a cop and his new partner, not a talking snowman, unfortunately,

going after a serial killer in Oslo whose calling card is a snowman, unfortunately, going after a serial killer in Oslo, whose calling card is a snowman, like a drawing of a snowman, like if the Hallmark Channel remade Zodiac. Val Kilmer makes an appearance, but according to an article in Slate, he doesn't speak. And when he does, they have a different actor overdubbing his voice for some reason. And it's like kind of noticeable. Oh, which is strange. I know that Valcomer did a project with some friends of mine and they had to overdub all of his dialogue. Oh, really? Yep. So it's common Valcomer practice nowadays, sadly.

That is sad. Apparently they refer to a character speaks of a, quote, pregnancy doctor the whole movie. Ah. Like, as if people call an obstetrician pregnancy doctor. Maybe not. There are plot elements that are just, like, introduced and then completely abandoned. Just terrible dialogue. And, yeah, I just, it was originally supposed to be directed by Martin Scorsese. And he was, like, bailed for some reason.

Some reason. And then after they finished shooting – and this is something that the director said in interviews to promote the movie. He said that they didn't even have enough time in Norway to finish filming the script. And 10 to 15 percent of the story was missing. They realized when they went to edit the movie. No. It sounds like mistakes like YouTubers make when they're trying to make a feature film. Right.

Oh, we forgot to get that part where he kills the guy. Yeah. Oh, and then we reveal who the killer. Oh, shit. We should use like a voicemail over a blackboard like, hey, I killed him. Right. And then we reveal who the killer. Oh, shit. We should use like a voicemail over Black. We're like, hey, I killed him. Right. Drop a coffee mug in shock.

So I don't know. We're probably going to send one of our writers to just go check this out so that I feel like everybody needs to needs to see this because it sounds like a glorious. I've seen a review that said that it is worse than The Room. Now, if this becomes a deal, because they don't care why you give them their money, right? Right. As long as you give it to them. Right.

So if enough people go see a bad movie, ironically, then they'll make a sequel. Yeah. That's like the reason why I saw that movie, The Core. Right. They drill to the center of the earth. Like, I went, ironically, with a group of friends in high school and i remember like we got like a pretty like a 30 people to go right that's when i was like this is a mistake we're contributing right yeah to shit filmmaking yeah there weren't enough of you fortunately for the court to uh have any i mean look at

there's scenes where like dj qualls is like a hacker quote unquote and hell yeah he's like i need hot pockets and mountain dew and you're like really remember when he showed up from I mean, look at that. There's scenes where like DJ Qualls is like a hacker, quote unquote. And he's like, I need Hot Pockets and Mountain Dew. And you're like, really? Remember when he showed up from Breaking Bad and then he went back into whatever hiding he's in? All right. We're going to move on to a quick story. We just want to bring up the Weinstein story again, just to remind you how horrible the world is. But Lupita Nyong'o came out and, you know, told her story about Harvey Weinstein, like reaching out to her when she was still an actress at Yale. They have a great drama department. He invited her to all these things, invited her to his house to watch a movie with his kids and his wife.

But then like while the movie was playing, like made her come to his bedroom and like give him a massage and uh it was all very strange and just basically what you would expect based on all the other stories about harvey weinstein but i just wanted to because the comments on this article that lapida nyong'o uh she wrote she told her story in an op ed in The New York Times. And there the top comments were from three guys that I don't know, it just really was like was everything that you like just stereotypical, like how men should absolutely not respond when a woman is telling her story. not respond when a woman is telling her story uh mark thomason came out and uh his quote was i believe her this has the ring of truth to it and then like goes on to like critique her like how she tells the story uh he's like as a man i i give this the official ring of truth um as a man right she says that gives him authority to do this. Right. It just feels like.

Because prior to his comment, this was all speculative. Right. Yeah. It's libel. Right. We didn't quite know, but this guy is the expert, so he can tell us. And then Thomas Zaslavsky says, this is a fine essay, but I was disappointed that it's just more people attacking Harvey Weinstein. And I'm ready for people to name other names, which, yeah, I'm sure that's going to happen eventually.

But like to be like, all right, we already heard this. Someone who's like telling the story about their sexual abuse uh was is just i don't know it's not like a show where you call in to vote like you want the show to move on and to name a new contest right and this guy's ready as though like if let's say a loved one in his life man or woman came up to him was like i i was i got beaten up right well who beat you up? A guy named Mike. And he or she gets to four or five minutes. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay. I get it.

You were beaten up. I'm ready to meet someone else now. I don't need to hear every person who victimized you. I need a different story. You're right. Yeah. No, this is part of it, man. Right.

But you know what? He's ready. JFK got shot. Another presidential assassination i mean we already had this with lincoln let's come on move it on guys uh all right uh so yeah i don't know just don't comment maybe if if you don't have anything constructive dad other than uh i approve you you have told your story and i think you're telling the truth or uh you know criticizing the uh you know the plot and uh how predictable it is uh then i would just suggest guys don't don't

don't comment just let the let the women tell their stories and uh yeah so uh that's gonna do it for the first segment uh we are going to take a quick break, and then we're going to be back with the Bloids. Bloids. Bloids. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered.

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Is there a hairy hole here? I need a hairy hole. Is there anybody here that could give me a hairy hole? Yeah, we got a couple over here. All right, you guys. This is the segment we call Bloid Watch. Bloid Watch. Bloid. So the premise for this is that occasionally the tabloids, like in the Men in Black universe,

the tabloids are on to things before the actual news, not alien landings, although I do have an alien landing to tell you guys about. Yes. But they have, for instance, known about John Edwards having an affair while his wife was dying. That was like a huge political news story that they had before The Washington Post or, you know, anyone else. Fake ass. Yeah. They always know people are dying like well before anyone else. They were the first to tell me about the Sways. They noticed Steve Jobs was dying before I think anyone else did.

So anyways, they're just on to things. So we every Monday, we take some time to look at the previous week's tabloids. They usually come out on like Friday or Thursday. And we just see comb through to see see what we're what we're learning right now. And to help us out, we have Harry Hole to help us out. We have our super producer, Anna Hosnier. Hello. Oh, wow. Such a pleasure to have you on.

Great. Love the energy. So I went through the globe. Anna, what was the magazine that you went through? I went through OK! OK. OK. And what did you find?

I found a lot of stuff. One, apparently, Megyn Kelly and Matt Lauer in a feud, and one of them is getting fired. Now, if I were to put my money on it, I would probably say Megyn Kelly. Matt Lauer. Yeah. Wait, what? Do you think they would really fire Matt Lauer or Megyn Kelly? Matt Lauer has had a very problematic career, and it's holding on strong.

Ooh, is he the next one? I don't know. Is he the next one? I don't know. Is he the next to... Next domino to fall? Yeah. What else? Oh, there's a really great quote in here that said they're really trying to soften Megyn Kelly's looks for the audience.

They feel that she's a little too icy. Is that code for just she just looks like a racist? Yeah, basically. They're like, wear a pastel. I'm going to put a daishiki on her with an afro wig. Maybe people will respond to her better. Yeah. That would be incredible.

Also, apparently Beyonce is going to have a Broadway musical about her life. Yeah, apparently the Springsteen one is blowing up where Springsteen just goes out and tells the story. Yeah, yeah. I think he just goes out and is like, yeah, it's me, Springsteen just goes out and tells the story. He's a part of it? Yeah, yeah. I think he just goes out and is like, it's me, Springsteen. Going up in New Jersey. And there I was. I mean, I love the live version of Thunder Road, so I would watch that musical.

Hell yeah. It's basically just a prolonged version of his concerts where he riffs for a minute in between. They're just like, what if we stretch that out for like 45 minutes? What else? What else? What else?

So this is a Bachelor in Paradise catch up. I don't know if you guys remember, but there was a scandal where Corinne Olympios and Demario Jackson, two cast members, were kicked off for alleged sexual misconduct. Turns out they were both cleared of this alleged sexual misconduct. Turns out they were both cleared of this alleged sexual misconduct and now apparently they've been hanging out all the time. Are they dating? We don't know. But here is my take. I think they want a reality show together

because they are both fame hungry. Wait, but who, did someone accuse the other of the sexual misconduct? No, my inside sources tell me that there was no sexual misconduct. And they were just fucking. And then they tried to make it seem like something. Well, what I heard is that they were trying to create a storyline, as they do on these kind of shows, where Corinne looked like a complete idiot.

And one of the producers stood up for Corinne and said, this is inappropriate. I don't want to do this. And that's what shut down production. I know I have to do this. And that's what shut down production. I know. I have some inside sources. You mean, yeah, when you just open up the magazine in front of you? No, I do actually have some inside sources. Okay.

Okay. I hate this whole scandal because it overshadows is it Dario? Demario. It overshadows his greatest moment when his ex-girlfriend showed up, or current girlfriend showed up on The Bachelor. That's the best.

When he goes, who's this? And she's like, you still have my house keys. And he's like, ooh. That was the best. I hate that it overshadows him. If every day I watched Demario go, who's this? To the girl he's dating about the girl he already was dating. I would watch it every day.

So he just tried to pull a Mariah Carey. And we're just like, I don't know her at first. Wow, good for him. It's a ballsy move. That is a ballsy move. That takes commitment. Let's just say it didn't work out. Or maybe it all did.

Yeah, no, it really did. Because he became infamous. And then this scandal. I smell reality TV money. i think i have bigger news than all of that the uh okay the lisa vanderpump dogs the dogs she's always carrying around yeah oh jiggy and uh what's the other one movie pink dog and pikachu uh okay you guys didiggy die? Pikachu died. And then seven days later, Pink Dog went too. No! No! God, why?

Most dogs can't live. Look, most dogs can't live. Well, without their significant friend other. Yeah, yeah. I stick by the belief that sometimes you want to eat steak, sometimes you want to eat cotton candy. And that's the same thing for television. Sometimes you want your Breaking Bad, other times you want your Vander steak sometimes you want to eat cotton candy and that's the same thing for television sometimes you want your breaking bad other times you want your vanderpump rules and i i am a vanderpump rules fan and i have diabetes it makes me sad that those dogs died she does a

lot of great work for dogs i mean straight up apart from whatever opinions you have about her path to fame or whatever she does a lot of great work for animals that's sad those dogs died of all the reality stars out there i feel like she deserves fame as much as anyone because she's just she's got great one-liners oh she's a walking like sassy uh sitcom character have any of you patronized any of her local restaurants yes i've been to pump i've been to sir yes i've been to sir more than once the uh they're not i mean they're not that hard to do but the uh fried goat cheese balls are really really good and they're like pot stickers they have a good happy hour actually okay okay i just always like the concept that she's created this world of like reality star slash waitresses like

it's very interesting and dynamic i'm into it i mean she's just they could take they could take all those cameras away she'd still be crushing business i mean she's legit you know what else is legit i just want to bring this up you know like i'm just let me take the stage here for a second the national choir they actually blow i mean i don't know if they're blowing the lid off the melania clone thing but they have found a woman who spent seventy thousand dollars in plastic surgery to look like melania trump which could give a little bit of an element of truth to this story. Now, I don't know if they're saying, you know, they're not connecting it to the scandal this week,

but I'm saying there is a material here for the fact that this woman had eight surgeries in Texas to look like Melania Trump. So is she the clone? I'm going to ask you in your heart of hearts, do you think that was a stand-in? No, of course not. As much as I love the movie Daveave and we talked about this yesterday or last week as much as i love that movie and want to believe that there is some like sinister plot to have a clone

like that obviously it's bullshit because it's the part that makes it the most weird was his wording the the other thing i could see it being is that you know there's definitely some trouble brewing in that marriage like we see that with the hand slaps and shit like that so i mean if she's just like i refuse to be around this motherfucker like he's cheated on me so many times they would need to come up with a double for the appearance yeah that makes sense um so do you guys know who michael weatherly is just the blandly handsome dude from i guess ncis uh he so he's he's just a dude on tv you'd recognize him if you saw his face uh he was married to a attractive woman uh from like soap operas i'm sorry what is her name her name is attractive woman from soap her name is amelia She plays Victoria Newton. Amelia Earhart.

No. So her name is Amelia Hindley. And so she was having an affair with Peter Green from you would know him as the spider caught a fly guy from Pulp Fiction. Yeah. The guy is the cop. He she was having an affair with him while he was out of his mind on cocaine. And at one point, like the way that blandly handsome Michael Weatherly found out about their affair is that Peter Green like stormed into their house house while completely high out of his mind, ripped off a door handle in their house and was asking where this woman was,

and then threatened to kill everyone in the house and then ran out. And she was like, he's got a gun! What? So they had to go hiding. So Peter Green, spider caught a fly guy, is a scary motherfucker in person. That sounds like my ideal romance novel. Right. Is that you're with a dude who's so out of his mind on cocaine?

I was hoping to avenge you. I wish you wouldn't have said novel. It's my ideal romance situation. I'm looking at another story. The Enquirer, they apparently have the ISIS. They know where the next ISIS terror targets are. Apparently, according to this the Enquirer they apparently have the ISIS's they know where the next ISIS terror targets are apparently according to

this National Enquirer what? I mean we do have ISIS well so yeah in this one these are the places that they are claiming

they have an internal document from the top secret government memo that says their targets include Wrigley Field. What? Yes, I'm sorry about that, Dan. Mall of America, Mount Rushmore,

NORAD headquarters, Dollywood. For some reason, I don't know why Dollywood. Because that is a legendary place. So they just were like, what are security places and what are populated places? Right. Comic Con, the Oscars, a gay pride festival in San Francisco. These are all no shit. Yeah, these are populated places? Right. They say Comic-Con, the Oscars, a gay pride festival in San Francisco.

These are all no shit. Yeah. These are just like places that are like Mardi Gras. They're just listing like big things. The fucking Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade. So Trader Joe's parking lot. Packed places. But I think there's this person that clearly must be from Tennessee with this Tennessee bias of like, well, the Grand Ole Opry in Dollywood, you know, because ISIS has real beef with anyone.

It's from country music and Dolly Parton and butterflies. Their inside source is clearly from Tennessee. Notice how they didn't say Disneyland, though, because they even agree it is the happiest place on Earth. Well, they have Disney World here. Yeah, well, fuck Disney World. Okay. You haven't been on that new Avatar ride yet.

Let me tell you, it's great. Really? Yeah, it's unreal. It is unreal. Wait, oh, so you've actually been to the new Avatar ride yet. Let me tell you, it's great. Really? Yeah, it's unreal. It is unreal. Oh, so you've actually been to the new Avatar thing? Yeah. Oh, we were just talking about that. It is unreal.

Really? Yeah. I'm telling you, when you eventually get to go on it, you will be like, let's just get right back in line. It's insane. Okay. Yes. Field trip. All right.

That sounds good. Dan, what you got? I want to talk about, this is probably well-tread territory, but there's a huge spread in this magazine. All of this stuff is pumpkin spice. Wow. So this is an Us Weekly. It just looks like a bunch.

It's like a product spread of pumpkin spice-inspired beauty products. Do people love it that much? I don't drink coffee, so I've never had a pumpkin spice latte. It's fine i mean the thing that is good and addictive about it is that it has a melted snickers bar worth of sugar in it really yeah it's just like you you're you get high drinking it yeah you're going to diabetic shock after like right they have 11 different different pumpkin spice themed things on here that are like beauty products, pumpkin icing. It's just everything to just feed into this idea of we have nothing else to do, so let's double down, triple down.

And they're all topical products. There's nothing you eat. It's like, do you want to smell like a knocked over cup of coffee? Yeah, you want to be pumpkin spice. Right. Yeah, the last Spice Girls. Who was not the most famous? Yeah, she was not the most famous of the Spice Girls.

I just can't get over it. I didn't know that it's that big. Quick survey of the room. Does anybody like pumpkin spice lattes? Anyone? No? Everyone's shaking their heads. Oh, I like the lattes.

Yeah, they're delicious. They're probably great, right? Not enough to... So Frank Bruni did a column about this in the New York Times last week. And he had a bunch of food products that are pumpkin spice. And there are apparently pumpkin spice Cheerios. It's like gone. I saw them yesterday at the grocers.

For fuck's sake. Yeah. Big pumpkin spice is here to stay. Yeah. Big pumpkin spice. I would love to follow the money on that i would love to see like the extract that's a company that's a deep dive yeah we need to do a deep dive because i'm sure they like had some extra amount of whatever like the key ingredient is

like in the same way that the dairy industry uh after skim milk became a thing, they had all this leftover milk fat. And so the way that they got rid of it is they started selling like putting cheese in everything during the 80s. Really? Yeah. They just had like this big they store a bunch of the cheese curds in a cave in the middle of the country. And they were like, we have this cave full of like milk fat what

do we do and they came up with the idea of like basically selling people cheese on shit it's in this book uh salt sugar fat by a new york times writer whose name i'm forgetting but it's just because if you go back let's i don't know 15 years right 10 years this isn't a thing at all right right pumpkin spice yeah no there's pumpkin pie that's where you got your pumpkin love i think 15 years, right? 10 years? This isn't a thing at all. Right. Right? Pumpkin spice? Yeah. No. There's pumpkin pie. That's where you got your pumpkin love. I think five years ago, it wasn't even a thing.

It's weird to me. Yeah. How trends like that. Well, I must say, we had Johnny Pemberton on last year talk about artisanal candles, and a well-made pumpkin spice candle can really brighten your home on a fall evening. Oh, no. You got the microchip in your head. I don't buy this. You're a shill.

And that's one of Anna's fall candle tips. You've been bought by Big Pumpkin. Big Pumpkin's in my pocket. All right. I mean, I have so much more to cover, you guys. Hillary Clinton says that JFK Jr. was high when he crashed the plane. What? Milikunis and Ashton Kutcher. Oh, by the way, just the I think basically 80

percent of the time spent on these magazines, these are all published by a single publisher who from New York, who is good friends with Trump. And so they have a very clear right wing bias. I think 80 percent of their time is spent looking for just bad pictures of Hillary Clinton because they have some of the most unflattering pictures of any human being ever that they have found. Like, I think they just like scan through videos and just like look for her. Just frame by frame. Yeah. Frame by frame. Just looking for her to make the stupidest fucking face possible and about to sneeze face um but uh anyways that that's their claim that hillary is claiming jfk jr was high when he

crashed his plane uh also mila kunis and ashton kutcher not giving their kids any christmas gifts what's up with that interesting just one last thing too national choir they're predicting i don't know if this is a thing but they're trying to say that frankie muniz is quote dancing with death because he can't remember uh i think we talked about this in season one uh two weeks ago uh that he that yeah basically pointed to the fact that he can't remember his his time on malcolm in the middle and he's had all these strokes and they said an insider said he could go any day i don't i don't want to believe this, and I won't. Yeah. And then probably my favorite note I've ever taken. I have a sticky on a bunch of pictures of Kim Kardashian, and my note is, Kim's butt is strange.

Okay. I love my job. It is very strange looking, though. You sound like an old dude who's never seen a big butt before. He's like, that is a strange butt. It's strange looking. But what you're not pointing out is that Kim fears that her butt may be freaky as well. Right, right.

She's worried about it. Oh, no. She's just noticing this now. It's like, guys, have you noticed? I have a weird butt. I think it's freaky. Any other stories before we go to our break? Bigfoot's video is 50 years old.

Oh, yeah. Can I ask you guys right now, yes or no, do you believe that Bigfoot's video is 50 years old. Oh, yeah. Can I ask you guys right now, yes or no, do you believe that Bigfoot is out there? No. Yes. Miles? Yeah, why not? There's a lot of why not. So many reasons.

Hey, man, I've met a couple of cool Bigfoot hunters. Yeah? They seem chill. Yeah, I mean, we were smoking meth and drinking beers. Yeah. Like in our drug-addled brains, we were like, oh, did you see that shit? There's this big conspiracy that, you know, all these people were disappearing from the national parks that I got, like, really deep into, and it was, like, super interesting.

And then at the end of, like, the trail of all these articles, I got to, it was just, like, all written by a guy who believes in Bigfoot, who's like, yeah, Bigfoot stealing the kids, man. I was like, Jesus, you just wasted like a day of my time. All right, Anna, thank you so much for joining us. Oh, my God. Thank you for having me. Oh, my God. This was so fun. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. All right. We'll be right back. Oh my God.

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So I wanted to close out with one fun story and one less fun story. Let's start with the less fun story. A, The Handmaid's Tale, that TV show on Hulu, very good show. And that's it. I just wanted to recommend that. Yeah, that's great. Thanks for coming, man. Thanks for having me, guys.

That's actually happening. Sort of. The government is trying to force a young woman to give birth. She was caught crossing the border, and she was basically trying to immigrate illegally. She is in the hands of the government and the Trump administration, and it's being brought to trial because they are refusing to let her get an abortion. When you say they, who is they? They is the Justice Department.

So like immigration caught her, and then so the Justice Department took over, and they're they're just basically saying, look, you're going to have to have that kid. Right. So they took her to a Christian pregnancy facility for counseling that aims at persuading women not to have abortions. They also told her mother about the pregnancy without her consent. So it just has a very, I don't know, Handmaid's Tale vibe to it. I heard somebody talking about this on one of the Crooked Media podcasts, and she was saying that this actually raises an interesting way to talk about the abortion debate rather than saying those people are pro-life because a lot of them are not. They're pro-death penalty and capital punishment, so they're not pro-life. Instead, describing that as being pro-forced childbirth, which in this case seems to be what's going on.

And this is being argued in front of a judge as well, right? Yeah. So, I mean, it's illegal. Right. I just wanted to make sure that as a country, there are people who are pointing this out that this is completely fucked up and backwards? Yeah. So, I mean, it's illegal. Right. I just want to make sure that as a country, there are people who are pointing this out, that this is completely fucked up and backwards. Yeah. So this this judge who was appointed by Obama asked the Justice Department lawyer, Scott Stewart, whether he thought illegal immigrants had constitutional rights and whether he believes that the 1973 Supreme Court ruling Roe v. Wade were both laws. And he was like, yeah, but we're going to choose not to believe that this applies in this case. So not cool, guys.

Not cool, Justice Department. So they're saying because she's not an American, she's not entitled to the liberties. Essentially. Yeah. Right. Right. Liberties. Essentially.

Yeah. Right. And, you know, they're like on one hand, they're arguing we we don't have to like process her papers to allow her to have an abortion. You know, like talking about that as if like they would have to go out of their way. But then on the other hand, they're going out of their way to like try and convince her to give birth to the child. Yeah. And I think that like for most people the issue the catalyst is this her right to like do or do not have a baby but the issue is whether or not someone's entitled to rights that's what you're asking yeah which is some people get so hung up on like the like

what what's the do i disagree or not agree with the example the example is not really relevant the question is are you entitled to rights right is this human this human being? Yeah. Are you acknowledging their humanity? Right. Off top. Yeah. And then people, and like essentially this guy's answer is like, it's murky. Human being is murky. So the iPhone 8 is not selling well.

Good segue. Speaking of. Harry Hole. There we go. That's a segue. Speaking of... Harry Hole. There we go. That's a segue. Thanks. Speaking of Harry Holes, the iPhone 8 is selling poorly, which there's not that much to say about that other than I think people are just waiting for the iPhone X.

Yeah, that's what I think, too. Yeah, well, what the fuck were they thinking over there? They're like, hey, put out the phone that everyone's going to go ape shit over, and then also one that's barely an upgrade from the one they have they should have made like they ate like 100 bucks 150 bucks right right sell all of them yeah if that was like all you know because they have that glass back now if they just sort of did remember they did that like the iphone like ce or whatever that had plastic back it was way affordable just do that and let people salivate over this other thing that will steal all your facial information. Yeah, I guess they don't have to reveal sales figures until like the next quarterly report.

But anecdotally, people like reporters are going around to different stores and asking like how they're selling. And they're like, they're not selling. It's insane. We're actually giving them away. Would you like one? Yeah. You got the 10. I'll wait. Yeah. I'm actually giving them a wait. Would you like one? Yeah. Nah. You got the 10.

I'll wait. Yeah. I'm good. I'm good. And just while we're on that subject, so with this phone release, they also upgraded to a new iOS, iOS 11. And just anecdotally in the office, people who have upgraded to that are like, it's kind of weird because now my battery like only lasts 15 minutes. a performance of 50,000 heavy iPhone and iPad users running iOS 10 and then a bunch running iOS 11 compared the battery performance, and the results are pretty drastic.

iOS 10 allows you 240 minutes per full charge. iOS 11 burns through the power in, I think it was 90 minutes. It's bullshit. Yeah. That's why don't upgrade. Don't ever change. Hold on to it. Hold on to your old values.

Everything. Your old beliefs. Don't evolve. Don't at all. This is just a cautionary tale to everybody. Yep. It's a slippery slope. Yep.

What's next? What's next? Can marry a giraffe? Two minute battery power? Is that what's next? Yeah. We're not even going to have batteries anymore? Right, right.

What are we using? Is that what's next? You're going to have to plug your phone in just if you want it to work exactly don't change girl don't ever change don't ever change yeah but i i guess the new podcast app is uh pretty dope they did a pretty good upgrade on that so shout out to apple i'm on board yeah i'm definitely on board i think we can all agree that Apple Podcasts is probably one of the best apps. It's the tops. Yeah, absolutely. But, yeah, so usually they figure it out pretty quickly.

But as of right now, it's fucking up people's batteries. So maybe hold off for another week until they get that shit figured out. And I think that's all the time we have, Daniel. Thank you so much. I love doing this. I'd come back any other season you guys want to have me on. Even if you want to have me on we have, Daniel. Thank you so much for joining us, man. I loved doing this. I'd come back any other season you guys want to have me on. Even if you want to have me on this season, anytime. Really?

Wow. We've never had anyone twice in one season. I would do it. This is fun. We always like to rejigger things in the off season, a long break of two days. Where can people find you, man? Just you can follow me, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter,

at DanielVanKirk. My MySpace is still out there if you want to go look for that. Did you ever shut yours down? Oh, hell no. See? It's like a little time capsule, man. I'm pretty sure Gnarls Barkley still plays. Hell yeah.

There's a little glittery gif. Yeah, it was I'm going on because I was trying to sub MySpace song and ex-girlfriend. Hold on to that top eight. I am. Yeah, she'll see it one of these days, man. Yes, she will. At Daniel Van Kirk. And then if you're in around the Houston area, I'll be headlining the Come and Take It Comedy

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I'm going to try and bargain with someone at the Apple Store. Come on, man. You're not selling them. Yeah, I know. Exactly. I'll buy the charger. Yeah. But if you're trying to follow me on social media, check me out at MilesOfGrey.

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