The Daily Zeitgeist - ShaqTrenderFest 10/5: The Right Stuff, Tyler Kistner, Branjelina, Crocs, Heidi Ganahl, Hocus Pocus 2
Episode Date: October 5, 2022In this edition of ShaqTrenderFest, Jack and Miles discuss the new dating app 'The Right Stuff', Tyler Kistner's stolen valor, details of abuse from the Branjelina split, the rise of Crocs, Heidi Gana...hl's war on furries, and thoughts on 'Hocus Pocus 2'!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet, and welcome to this episode of shack trender fest hey uh
courtesy of the feed man yeah on discord shout out shack tover fest shack trender fest the nba
is back i mean this is not one of the trends but i was i was watching some pelicans last night it
was the first pre-season action i watched and zion i'll just give the listeners advance warning to go ahead and Google
Zion Williamson now because it's going to be a big part of everything that I'm thinking about
for the next 12 months. He looks awesome. Yeah. Anyways, I'm Jack. That over there is Miles. Yeah.
And these are some of the things that are trending first of all a big thing that is
trending in our world the next up applications are open until october 14th yes yes extended
yeah and if uh like you can check my bio or just all of our accounts or we've got links flying around or go to bit.ly slash iheartnextup i-h-e-a-r-t-n-e-x-t-u-p
yeah um thank you shout out to becca for making that bit.ly link because before earlier i was
having to say something with about 700 characters yeah yeah so yeah please apply we've already had
like almost like 200 people apply uh the more therier, because we love to see all the talents that you have and the emerging talent out there.
So please, please, if you have even an inkling to want to get involved and you have a voice and an opinion and a story or a perspective that you feel needs to be shared, please apply.
Because I'm sure everybody in the NextUp initiative will love to see that application.
in the next up uh initiative uh will would love to see that application yeah so producer becca who we met through the next up initiative in the first place was not one of the official candidates
but that's how we got to know her so um it's a great program uh there's been a lot of great
applications already um but you know we there's there's still time yeah Yeah. Nine days. Let's talk the right
stuff.
Oh.
Not the new kids on the block.
Did I date myself?
I was going to talk about the
Tom Wolfe book
or the movie with Ed Harris.
In fact, it is
the name of a new dating app from
Peter Thiel.
We were talking about that is only for conservatives.
Oh,
did you guys talk about that last week when I was out?
No,
I mean,
like we,
it may have been one of the times you,
I,
because this is just part and parcel of the never ending stream of like,
fuck me.
I'm a racist.
That come out.
Uh,
and they always end the same way,
which is they start off a lot of fanfare they use a lot
of fake pictures of women to bait men onto the site it ends up collapsing under its own horniness
and patheticness um but i haven't i i just think the last thing i heard was that men were upset
about the right stuff yeah so some early reviews are in and it's unclear if this is a function of their uh
not being able to block people who aren't conservatives from joining and then writing
reviews or if it's a function of the reality of the app but a lot of the reviews are like, wait, how come no women here on this app?
It's all just men.
No woman on app.
No woman on app, as the great song says.
No woman on app.
It does make a certain sense that there would be no women on an app.
I mean, given the state of conservative ideology yeah yeah i can't imagine
that's a relationship you'd want to be involved in where someone is leading with you don't have
body autonomy now with that said would you like to go on a date we can agree on that
you have no body autonomy would you like to be in a romantic situation with me
go yeah and and also there are entire
like large businesses that have been built off this model uh namely ashley madison it was you
know that that was a dating site for many years that was like oh my gosh there's a dating app
where everybody's like cheating on their spouses it's wild and then like years later it came out people were like yeah we looked
at this because they they had a big data breach and it's all men and then bots pretending to be
women um the whole thing is just a a shell game so well that would that would sum up uh a lot of
stuff going on on that side of the aisle so yeah right i mean yeah i can't say that maybe this is we're seeing natural
selection take place in slow motion via the stating app where you know restrictive ideologies
might not be the the key to a you know bountiful life filled with love and companionship
um stolen valor is another thing that's trending. Keeps coming up, keeps jumping up and biting them in the ass.
Again, Republicans, another problem Republicans are having.
They cannot stop pretending they're like combat Rambo.
This dude who is running in Minnesota's second district, Tyler Kistner.
He basically here.
Let me just let me just play this.
I think this one has this combat experience.
OK, this is this is an ad from September 16th of this year.
This is this is a campaign.
I just listen to what he's saying.
My dad dug ditches.
My mom worked two jobs.
I joined the Marines.
OK, hell yeah.
And there you learn pretty quickly what's working.
And you've got cool pictures.
Our country's suddenly not working since Angie Craig and Joe Biden took over.
No offense.
But now we've tried it their way.
My wife.
Anyway, it goes on.
He said repeatedly, he's like, I'm in the Marines.
I've seen combat.
I went on, been on four deployments.
Like, I'm in the Marines.
I've seen combat.
I went on, been on four deployments.
And according to this group of, like, progressive veterans who look into this stuff, they were just like, oh, yeah, we're looking at this. And what the things that we can say is that you did four overseas tours, but not for combat deployments.
So you got probably fucked up in Yokosuka, Japan,
a couple times.
Made your way into Roppongi,
as all the armed forces dudes in America
that are in Tokyo end up ending up at.
So yeah, that may have been what it was.
But even in his 2020 campaign,
because it's a rematch against this woman, Angie Craig,
he said he, quote, put his enemy six feet under
and has been, quote, on the wrong end of a loaded weapon.
I've been in fights.
I've been in combat.
I know exactly what it's going to take.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, he seems to be foregrounded in that,
that he's, I was in the Marines.
I know what works and what doesn't hey your bills
are too high let me tell you what my skills are i killed a fucking guy huh get me in there folks
get me in there i mean i get it like it's just like this simple the same shit where it's basically
you know i get it like it's this what's funny is the old gop used to give a fuck about veterans
right like in a very ceremonial way not not not like in a tangible support way because the va is
a mess but like now because of trump too talking shit about like you know fucking gold star families
and all this other things like it's just got i don't know if it just hits the same anymore because
like in one breath a republican will be like thank you for your service or be like but you're
a fucking commie because you asked for
better medical care when you got back
yeah
I like the guys that don't get captured
that's their new god
so how do they square that with
yeah
I guess they have to lie and be like
I'm kinda
have you seen Rambo?
Yeah, basically that.
So, no big deal.
Right, exactly.
Brad Pitt is trending for horrifying reasons.
The abuse allegations against him from that flight.
There was always talk of a flight
that ended his marriage to Angelina Jolie and sent him into rehab.
And the details are emerging and they're just deeply fucked up and involve child abuse and dumping drinks on all the members of his family.
And just glad they got out of there safely.
Wild that they've been able to keep a lid on this for
so long you know yeah i i mean again that's that's like this fucking hollywood for you
yeah you know they it's like you if like you have a talent there's a whole there are many
ways to keep lids on things um but yeah it's fucking grim yeah um right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right
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And Crocs continue to just be a trend that has broad appeal i guess
they just dropped pizza crocs um with like little topping doodads or whatever whatever those things
are that you stick in the holes little charm charm oh yeah um which is the first time i was like you don't even know bro i kind of
i kind of fuck with that that's kind of cool um man you're just i love crocs do you i love them
oh yeah i must i think look if you're like wavy you know like me you don't you probably emphasize
your own corporal experience a lot of the time like i will all i don't care
what shit looks like what's it feel like because i don't give a fuck what i look like to somebody i
don't know what the fuck the experience is walking on air or just i remember i clowned on my dad for
wearing crocs in 2008 but then he's like wear them try them and i wore them and i was like i and i
had to pretend they sucked but i was like shit these are fucking comfortable as shit i was like yeah man these are fucking my feet up bro i can't do it
and now loving the fuck out of crocs yeah like it was one of those things where you're like god the
clippers are gonna be good this year what i say i don't know take me to the hospital i'm unwell
i'm unwell but yeah like crocs are becoming so big. Dude, the fucking Lightning McQueen Crocs from the movie Cars, if you remember.
Lightning McQueen.
Cars 2 and Cars 3.
Yeah.
Murray, do you remember in, what is it?
Flight of the Conchords when the prime minister comes from New Zealand to visit them?
No.
He's so obsessed with the ending of Cars.
That's what he keeps saying. He's like, Murray, find's so obsessed with the ending of cars that's what he keeps
saying he's like murray find out what happened at the end of cars does the boy car end up with
the girl car at the end i fell asleep and he keeps talking about cars anyway um those crocs are
fucking super hypey right now there's like there's so many hype crocs too like solehi
bambury ones the ones i got yeah you know
but got the ones i got quit the ones i got brief mention quote quote quote because maybe they're
pirated but look we don't have to get into my consumption habits all i gotta say is uh yeah
pizza crocs i can see how those are gonna fucking hit i can also see how crocs are like a great shoe to form the foundation for the,
you know,
rep revolution that's coming where,
you know,
you know,
replicas are just as good as the real thing.
They look exactly like the real thing.
They cost way less and Crocs of all the shoes there,
they're just made of one fabric that you can 3d print them.
Essentially one material.
just made of one fabric that you can 3d print them essentially one material if you have like the cad design or whatever thing you need to feed the machines to like mass produce it it's a wrap and i
think that's why you see a lot of replica repped crocs out there too because we're like a lot of
yeezy foam runners like anything that's like a one piece thing people are making replicas very
convincingly but again i think that's just a weird thing even people are making replicas very convincingly but again i
think it's just a weird thing even talking about replicas it's all just about this weird reckoning
with consumer culture that people have where it's like i like the thing i don't agree with what it
costs because that's stupid and i don't care enough to say i have the real thing right versus
i have the thing that to you looks like the thing you paid fucking $2,000 for and I paid $40,000.
I also feel like they've gotten cooler looking.
This is what I'm trying to figure out from my perspective.
Have I just been worn down?
Have they been cool for long enough that I've seen them on enough people
with enough cool outfits that I'm just like,
all right, I'm on board.
I've been
worn down and i think crocs are cool now when at first i thought or is it that they got cooler
looking no they've always been the same like the crocs that clog that you see that's been standard
forever and i think that what you're talking about is you've been you're you've been slow boiled like
like the frog in the pot of water where over time we shoes have become chunkier and chunkier yes so especially now
because we're in the chunky shoe era these don't look like so far off as they used to because
before the only thing we could like compare them to were like birkenstock clogs and that was for a
very specific like crunchy type of person.
I guess I still don't like the rounded toe ones,
but the one there,
there are some that are not quite as clunky. Don't look quite as much like clogs that I like.
I just like to see you like rocking a really narrow toed croc.
Oh,
this is good.
Like a pointy stuff,
like a wingtip dress shoe i like to wear that i'm like
a you know i i like to wear my crocs a couple sizes too small and just really you know have
them so you can see the toenails kind of my toes uh and oh yeah no um i think i might fuck with
crocs i'm still not there on tivas, though. Tevas still seem whack to me.
Oh.
Yeah, I mean, Tevas, look, they're back.
But the thing is, I couldn't afford Tevas.
So I was like, well, I'll rock the Target version.
So then now I'm looking at Tevas and I'm like, no, I'm good.
Like, if I'm going to wear sandals, like, now I wear, like, those big-ass chunky, like, pillow slides.
Cloud slides or whatever they,
everybody's wearing.
That's like three bucks.
Uh,
furries are trending.
I'm assuming this has to do with just more ignorant.
Yeah.
Rampant transphobia.
This time from Colorado's gubernatorial nominee on the right.
Uh,
who's,
you know,
again,
this take will not go away uh this woman heidi
ganal ganal uh who's writing who's running in colorado she this take of like you know there's
fur these kids who identify as animals and they're asking to use litter boxes and then that they're
also furries and conflating all this dumb nonsense with just basic homophobia.
And she was asked in an interview because they're like, hey, you sure you want to keep talking about this?
Like the journalist is like, do you care to explain like this take?
And she just doubles down.
Just I'll play this for you.
This is from KDVR.
Shout out, Denver.
Earlier this week on talk radio, it was, have you heard about this story?
Kids identifying as cats.
It sounds absolutely ridiculous.
It's happening all over Colorado and schools are tolerating it.
Where are you getting that?
And do you believe that's true?
Well, I'm out on the campaign trail talking to parents every day.
And this is this really weird phenomenon that's happening in middle schools and high schools.
It's not been going on for a couple of years. It it hasn't and kids has been at furries is different in a year time
and they're struggling so i have a lot of compassion for kids that are having you know
difficulty right now but schools tolerating kids dressing up as cats is not appropriate have you
seen any specific examples of this though or not right many many and um we have all the
parents across the Denver metro area at least sending emails and examples to the reporter who
wrote that story and the other reporters who are interested um yeah the that's just all nonsense
there's no no nothing like again this is all because of just the fucking weaponized fear of anything that is not cishet christianity
uh is now they're trying to just do the dumbest shit of being like yeah they're child furries who
want to use a litter box in the classroom and that's what we got to get a handle on don't don't
focus on the rampant inequality focus on this bizarre shit I'm saying. Weaponized homophobia and weaponized
tech illiteracy and social
media illiteracy where they are
still, their brain was formed
like my brain was formed when Tevas
weren't cool, can't adapt
to the new way. I will eventually.
I'll be rocking Tevas soon enough with
some brown
weird socks or something, but
their brain was formed at a time when the
news was fed to you and you know whatever shows up on facebook hits their brain like it's on the
cover and whisper network new york times yeah whisper network like truly like that's how they
oh did you hear oh no oh really well i go to church with many many many examples many examples
and then she pulled her seats on that or no yeah no
i'm sorry miles i saw a guy he smoked a blunt and he went blind immediately and i know you don't want
that kid so you better don't really you got you got you've seen that before yeah yeah yeah kid
from last year happened to my oh my god many many times uh i've seen it okay it's just like
this is like constantly happening and it's just such a
fucking it's just so i don't know it's like disheartening but then i'm like this is the
best they can do but it's also just so fucked up i feel like they would be happier if they
weren't allowed to use facebook and the world would be in a better place but yeah all right
i did promise the end of last week that we would get to hocus pocus 2
which came out hacus pocus sequel is not getting great reviews it's not getting terrible reviews
the first one got very bad reviews but it was trending continues to trend uh near the top of
like the what people are streaming app oh the metacritic score went down. Yeah. You, you've been tracking that kind of nervous.
I mean,
I was,
I was like,
do I watch it?
Do I not watch it?
Do I,
you know,
I'm,
you know how sensitive I am with Kathy and the Jimmy's legacy.
So I was like,
I don't please let this be good.
Please let this be good.
I watched it over the weekend.
Um,
it didn't anger me.
That's good.
So you like the first one?
I watched it for the first time, actually, like two years ago.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
I assume this was a generation gap where you just were.
Okay.
No.
Well, I mean, okay.
So of obviously like the elder millennial people, people definitely fucked with Hocus Pocus.
But at the time I told you, this is like a theme I brought up.
I was really cynical with like my media diet so if she was on disney i'm like that's fucking garbage
right fuck out of here put on some you know put on ghost dog my man and this is a seven-year-old
miles by the way that we're talking about uh in 93 i'm nine years old uh so i'm probably actually
obsessed with jurassic park at this point because
that's when jurassic park came out and i i couldn't talk about anything fucking else except
nine uh about dinosaurs and my begging my parents to buy a ford explorer uh which didn't happen
is that because that's what the wu-tang clan drove because that's what they drove in jurassic park
oh okay those cars that they go on that's why i love the explorer oh
shit my first memory is that shit on the track because suvs really weren't out back then like
that was kind of a new thing like an suv shaped like an explorer and then in my mind i was like
oh shit that shit probably has night vision in the trunk and like a seat through the roof yeah
and then i remember i had a homie who's like parents had one i was like damn this is like a regular ass car but anyway so at the time i did not watch it and then her majesty loved the film
and she's like you haven't seen hocus pocus i'm like no actually like i've seen
like quarters of it at a time in passing right but then i sat down and i yeah it's fun i liked
it it felt whimsical hocus pocus too you know uh the performances were
good i did have a few chuckles i'm not gonna lie yeah but when i was telling anna she was like did
they do i put a spell on you and i'm like no they don't do it in this one so sorry fans real big miss
easy easy bucket yeah out on i was at the stage of being cynical. I also had a
little sister who was really into
the original Hocus Pocus, so
I had to watch it multiple times.
I was like, they're making the
Salem Witch
Trials real?
They're making the witches
who got killed
the bad guys in the Salem Witch
Trials? i was at
that like very early hot take version oh got it yeah yeah and like 12 that's wrong knowing a little
bit of history yeah um but i don't know they they don't really i'm sure they don't steer into that
i don't know there's a way to uh correct for it since the whole universe of the movie is set in Salem and is based on the idea that the Salem witch trials were, there were some real witches there.
Yeah.
So.
I mean, a cautionary tale.
Yeah. and isn't there a teenage, like a young boy in the first one
and like 15 year old boy,
a writer,
JM contributed a story about this.
Everybody's obsessed with a 15 year old boy's virginity.
Yeah.
Because a virgin had to light the black flame candle
to bring them back.
Right.
And they play that for laughs.
Like a 15 year old boy who's still a virgin?
A virgin?
It's very strange.
Guess he didn't grow up in that one trailer park.
That Jack went to as a nine-year-old.
They all made fun of me as a nine-year-old for being a virgin.
For being a virgin.
Yeah.
Written by those same people, I think.
But yeah, this time it's about 16-year-old virgins
who are homegirls, but they also fuck with magic on the side, so they're a little bit more
equipped to deal with these ladies coming back
from the past or whatever. Sam Richardson's in it.
I saw that and I was like, I'll watch this. I'll watch the hell out of this.
At the end of the day, I don't know.
I mean, like I'm not I'm not the most loyal Hocus Pocus fan.
So I don't know where to where to even place my critique or analysis of it.
All I will say is I thought the funniest scene and maybe this is a spoiler.
It's not.
There's a moment where they're all witches.
Right.
So they fly on broomsticks and Bette Midler.
She finds like a Halloween display and just rips like a good looking standard like
old school broom that you see a witch would ride and she's like i'm ready to go what about y'all
and like they're looking around like they're uh i think you got the last broom and they got to
improvise so then they do it like a smash cut you see bet middler get on her broom then you see uh
sarah jessica parker get on like a wet Swiffer stick instead of a broom.
I love it.
And then Kathy Najimy stands on two Roombas.
Queen.
She's just awkwardly flying on two Roombas.
I thought that shit was funny.
And then the edible hit and I woke up at the credit scene.
I do.
I love your appreciation for Kathy Najimy.
Oh, my God.
You know.
All right.
Well, those are some of the things that are trending on this Wednesday afternoon.
We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other.
Be kind to yourselves.
Get the vaccine.
Get the flu shot.
Don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to you all tomorrow.
Bye.
Bye.
And we will talk to you all tomorrow.
Bye.
Bye.
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I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get
your podcasts.
I'm Keri Champion,
and this is season four
of Naked Sports.
Up first,
I explore the making
of a rivalry.
Kaitlyn Clark
versus Angel Reese.
Every great player
needs a foil.
I know I'll go down
in history.
People are talking
about women's basketball
just because of
one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.
I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
People are talking about women's basketball
just because of one single game.
Clark and Reese have changed the way
we consume women's basketball.
And on this new season,
we'll cover all things sports and culture.
Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts.
The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.