The Daily Zeitgeist - Shell Games: Climate, Inflation And The McRib 10.31.22

Episode Date: October 31, 2022

In episode 1362, Jack and Miles are joined by song writer, actor, and star of Barbarian, Matthew Patrick Davis, to discuss… Update on Inflation / Climate Change, On Same Day As Apocalyptic Climate Report From UN--NYTimes Drops Article Spiking Football On How Well We’ve Turned It Around, The McRib Is The Streisand Of Sandwiches and more! Update on Inflation / Climate Change These Top 5 Oil Companies Just Raked In $35 Billion While Americans Pay More at the Pump On Same Day As Apocalyptic Climate Report From UN--NYTimes Drops Article Spiking Football On How Well We’ve Turned It Around The McRib Is The Streisand Of Sandwiches Military Experiments, Food Conspiracies, and 'The Flintstones:' The History of the McRib A Conspiracy of Hogs: The McRib as Arbitrage From Bob Seger to Elton John to KISS, farewell concert tours abound, and business is booming Cher’s still going strong after decade of farewell tours Barbra Streisand: A final, final, final farewell tour? LISTEN: Pentagram by Prefuse 73See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I love it, man. Look at me. I'm in my Halloween costume. Yeah. Sexy Green Goblin. Sexy Green Goblin. Love to see it. You know, I'm a bit of a podcaster myself.

Let's see. It's also October 31st, which means Reformation Day. I don't know if that has to do with religious stuff. World Savings Day, World Cities, whatever. It's fucking Halloween. It's also October 31st, which means Reformation Day. I don't know if that has to do with religious stuff. World Savings Day, World Cities, whatever. It's fucking Halloween. It's Halloween, man. Who is putting their national day of recognition on Halloween? Magic.

National Magic Day. National Knock Knock Joke Day. Like, knock knock jokes? Knock knock jokes. You need your own day that's not Halloween. I guess that makes sense in a trigger-treat sense. But so many knock-knock jokes have nothing to do with Halloween, guys. Come on.

How many times do I have to tell you this, National Knock-Knock Joke Association? National money-takers to add a sentence to a website, people? sentence to a website people anyways my name is jack o'brien aka these thighs are crying these thighs have seen a lot of loves but they're never gonna see another one like i had with do uh that is courtesy of gold john ion and i'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Graves! Straight from the murky depths of the San Fernando Valley, where people with 310 area codes dare not venture, comes Miles Graves. And you will be doing the entire episode in that spooky voice. Oh, yes.

I'm going to do it like Paul Bearer, who was the Undertaker's hype man. Oh, no. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a true renaissance man. Not in the sense that he's an alcoholic who wears tights and doesn't bathe. He can do a lot of shit very well. Yes.

That sense. He's an actor, songwriter, musician, who's co-written songs for The Ghost of Molly McGee and Tots, T-O-T-S, on Disney Channel and Disney Junior, respectively. And then he's in a movie called Barbarian. I'm told we're not supposed to talk too much about too much detail. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented Matthew Patrick Davis. Thanks for having me, y'all. What's up, man?

Oh, wow. Extended that screen. How you doing, man? I'm doing great. All right. I'm going to be straight with you. Right up top. Be straight.

I've watched the first 10 minutes of Barbarian. Okay. It just came out on HBO Maximum. So tell me the plot. No, no. I know like this is the movie I have avoided spoilers with for the longest. Like it is the most spoiler-tastic. Everybody's like, yo, just like don't find anything out.

I watched the first 10 minutes and still have no idea what's happening thus far a woman has showed up at an airbnb yep to find she's double alert with a pete davidsonian hot dude so that that's all i got so it's a rom-com that's what i was so here here's my guesses right because i'm told it's going to keep me guessing on the genre front i'm guessing somebody finally did my idea and you know shot and acted at a level of a major motion picture but it's actually hardcore pornography matthew what what do you got am i am i did i did i nail it well I don't know I can't give you spoilers but yes full penetration is involved

okay Jack you were right every time you go to Airbnb you're like man someone should fuck in one of these and film it that's right and they have in every Airbnb people have fucked just think of that when you lie on that bed how many people And they have. In every Airbnb, people have fucked. Yeah.

That's a big rule. Just think of that when you lie on that bed. How many people? That is true. Yeah, yeah. I feel like it's one of the most popular movies of the past five, six months of the year, really. It's like a sensation, but it's also a movie that is under wraps, and are not supposed to like talk about it or even like, am I even allowed to say you are in it? How does that work?

I think you can say that. Okay. I, um, I can say I'm willing to say that I'm in it. I'm unrecognizable. Prosthetics are involved. That's all.

That's all I'll say. And, uh, I play a scary person. We can say that too. Okay. Okay. But, uh,. We can say that too. Okay. But, you know, beyond that, just watch it. And preferably not in 10-minute increments.

You know, preferably you give it a good proper go. But, you know, live your life. I'm doing it for Halloween tonight because no one comes near where I live. So I'm like, well, let's make it a spooky night for sure. I have a four-year-old, a six-year-old, and a wife who doesn't really fuck with horror. So I got to get it in where I can. But I'm going to watch.

I'm going to go back, rewind, rewatch the first 10 minutes and watch it all in the dark by myself. There you go. Tonight for Halloween. Perfect. I like the two, like Matthew, I've seen other interviews with you where people like have no consideration for the audience. And they're like, so like, who are you in the movie?

And just explain that out loud right now in the plot. And there's one where I just say, be like, I don't know if that's like a spoiler alert in this interview. Yeah, it's weird. I don't usually do podcasts and um i'm only thank you for lowering yourself no no no i'm raising myself like usually i don't like talking about myself you know i'm like i love podcasts and i'm like i don't i don't know i'm i couldn't be interesting case in point right now i'm rambling right and uh but but this i went to bulgaria last summer and shot this movie and did some of the most insane things with my co-stars that i've ever done and you know and

i love talking about it but then it's funny you can only really be on spoilery podcasts and ones that aren't spoileries then you have no stories to tell and you can't be interesting yeah and everyone's like i think that guy was fucking lying about being a barbarian basically very vague like non-committal to stuff he didn't even know the plot yeah or his own character all right we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment because we we believe you are not uninteresting you're oh thank you interesting so we'll get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about.

We are going to do a quick update on inflation as it relates to the energy industry and climate change. And also an update on the climate change report from the UN. Because the New York Times on that same day dropped an article spiking the football and how well we've turned it all around which was interesting so we'll talk about that we'll talk about the mcrib more importantly we might not talk about any of that climate change shit we might just talk about the mcrib to be honest with you before we get to any of that bullshit matthew we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history? Oh, all right.

So, well, I was looking through my search history and I was like, wow, I really cheat on the New York Times crossword a lot. And then I was also like, oh, wow, I really stalk people that I see on dating apps a lot. Not stalk, it's called due diligence. It's due diligence absolutely but what i wanted to i also saw nespresso color pods pod color i googled that because i was in a cabin in big bear a couple weekends ago and there was a jar of nespresso pods that were left but i knew some of them were caffeine free and we want that sweet caffeine so i googled it on the block but that brings me to i listened to last yesterday's podcast y'all mentioned something that i wanted to ask you about

because that trip was my first time doing mushrooms oh okay and you mentioned yesterday that like baby brain is the same as high brain or trip brain or something is that what you said that's all we're talking about the telly tubbies yeah the yes yes yeah telly tubbies the telly that's just a theory i have so there you know one of one of the first and most influential things written about psychedelics was just aldous huxley doing psychedelics writing a very detailed journal about how cool shit looked but then his like kind of theorizing that what happens when you take psychedelics is like the doors of perception like the you know apertures that we've put over our perception like our brain has trained itself into

having are sort of removed or widened so that like all of the sensory input is coming in at the same time, which would be similar to what it would be like to be a baby is kind of my theory. Just overwhelmed at input. Yes. Overwhelmed by input and like also the beauty of like things that we have turned gray with our, you know, with our doors of perception so that we're not distracted at a traffic light you know like so that we can just like zoom in on whether the right the light is red or green and not be like oh my god the texturing on my dashboard is fucking blowing my mind you know i see like the glass or the that's behind the traffic light, like the lens of it. And it's so refractive.

Oh my God. Right. And then you get, and then you're arrested. Yeah. So what was your experience like? I mean, it was like, so I, I now, I think I understand what nature tripping means kind of. And it did like, when I heard you talk about baby brain and it did make me so i it did make me think about when i was a kid like laying in the backyard looking at the stars and how you

know that's just a naturally like enjoyable act and then but with the the the mushrooms it just gave me like 1000 zoom and focus and it became i was like a baby just like endlessly fascinated and having a blast looking at those stars and the moon and the clouds in front of the moon it was like a three act play because i think a lot of it is to do with connectedness right is like we it it opens us up to for the possibility to connect to things that's why like i think the real the thing from culture would be like when people are at a rave and doing like like psychedelics or like mushrooms or ecstasy or whatever they're more suddenly like oh my god come here i love you kind of a thing and that's sort of like you know how our brains slightly open more to being like more connective and like to your

point like when you look at stuff especially in, you suddenly like rush back and you're like, man, I'm a fucking terrestrial being. And I'm like, yes, this this is amazing. This is actually fantastic. What is all around me? But yeah, like to Jack's point to our focus just kind of comes in because of life or work or whatever. And you sort of like lose all these things as you get older. Yeah. And nature's already worthy of attention, you know, but then it just like gives you super attention on it.

Yeah. Right. Just getting out away from if you live in a city and getting out away from the city and looking at the stars is pretty fucking mind blowing. That's already great. Even without psychedelics. Oh, yeah. You hurt your neck because you're like, damn, this is what it's like without all that light pollution. Yeah.

What is something you think is overrated? Ironic applause at the Nicole Kidman AMC ad. It's so true, man. They're giving AMC the wrong message. AMC now thinks people love it. They're going to make a new one. Yep. They are. In the process exactly it's

never going away when it first came out i was like this will be here mercifully for a short period of time this is just about getting people back in the theaters but no now it's the new amc clippy you know or whatever right and and now they're like putting it at the end like i think before they would like put it before the trailers and now they're like putting it at the end like i think before they would like put it before the trailers and now they're like treating it like the grand finale before the movie at the last movie i went to oh oh you mean the last like the final trailer trailer before i know i thought i thought you meant post credit they actually slice it in right before the climax of the movie no yeah they put it put it right after the trailers when I'm really ready.

I know I'm old because the trailers, I'm like, I love a movie trailer, but I'm still now checking my watch being like, yo, we're going on a half hour here before the movie. Yeah, you can show up 30 minutes late. Yeah, and then Nicole Kidman kidman pops in you know and i'm just i'm like not here for it but everybody else is ironically like whoo yeah nicole kidman and i enjoy it like i enjoy it i i do think it's time to move move past it and just let amc know how we really feel yeah i think it's part of our like just us going like losing our minds because i remember when we all went as like a crew to go see elvis in the theater and like the nicole kidman thing came on we all lost our shit we were just like it's just like it wasn't even like

applause like it just turned into total mania but i think most of that is just to do with the fact that like we're just taking cues from like the shit posts we see on Twitter too. We're all real time shit posters. Yeah. And that's better than taking all the beauty of the world in is that we have this aperture that has allowed us to just really tightly focus and turn the world around us into a Twitter feed that we get to shit post on. Right? Perfect. That's a good trade-off. Yes. What do you think is the way forward?

Do you think we should hiss at the people who are applauding or just be like, come on, really? Don't encourage this. I think some active boos. Yeah. Okay, I'm with that. Really let the message be told. So, you know, you see the stiletto heel in the puddle.

Right. Boo! I like that. As long as we get to, I think that for me, it's just that I want to yell at the screen at some point. Yeah, and so you still have that catharsis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it wouldn't be giving AMC the wrong message.

Right, right, right. And I'm fine just getting some shit out. That has nothing to do with AMC. And I verbalize that too. And I'm like, you fucking serious? The prophets are out of control! My dad never loved me! Fuck!

What's something you think is underrated? Well, I guess on movies. So one of the best movies I saw this year, aside from Barbarian. what's uh what's something you think is underrated i well i guess on movies uh so one of the best movies i saw this year aside from barbarian yes i have seen 10 times yeah i've heard of that one theater you've heard we're not allowed to talk about it but we can't talk about it but we it is a movie that exists yes on hbl maximum exactly the maximum maximum was a movie called marcel the shell with shoes on are you familiar with the like you saw the movie called Marcel the shell with shoes on. Are you familiar with the, you saw the movie?

I saw the movie. Yeah. Yeah. It had no business. I mean, I knew it'd be funny, but it was like deep and it was about loss and grief and like loneliness. And,

and, uh, I just, I laughed and I also like cried tears and snot into my mask. And yeah, which is disgusting. I'm sorry that I said that. No,

I mean, that's just, I think it's a good indicator of how touched you were. Yeah. So I know, I remember the short when it came on and we're like, yes. And we're like,

we love Jenny Slate. And it's a Dean Fleischer camp, right? Who like is behind that. Yeah. Yeah. But I haven't seen, I haven't seen the

actual feature film yeah it's really good it's it made me think of like what a Pixar movie for adults like you with practical effects but like just the everything, adorable, but also, like, has, like, really depth and interesting philosophical ideas and performances. It's very good. And also, like, a wild story that they made that after being divorced. Like, they made the original shorts together while they were a married couple. Then made the feature-length film after they were divorced. And, like, there's an interesting subtext. It's not accidental.

It's kind of running through the whole thing. He's a character. She's Marcel. But there's just a sweetness to their relationship. And his character's just gone through a breakup. Yeah. And he's lonely. Are they talking, their real breakup in this movie? Yeah, I think so.

He admitted! Yeah. Because I think, I mean, it took, like, eight years to make, so I think they started and were together, but by the end of it were divorced. But, like, but they soldiered through and just became pivoted to being just collaborators. Yeah. For them. I think it gives breakups something to aspire to. Yeah.

Just fully feeling all the feelings of the breakup and being sad about it, but just treating that as something you share with one another. Also, it's a lot of money, man. Maybe we can get over that shit. I know we signed that deal, that development deal when we were together, but like, let's not fuck this up. Yeah, yeah. You know, but I'm glad it turned out fantastically.

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Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and yeah there there was some interesting economic news from the end of last week that I didn't want to let just fly by because, you know, we were talking about there was a EU report or sorry, it was a UN report about how global warming emission cuts are at like the emissions cuts are at 1% and need to be at 45% for it not to be a situation where lots of people die and entire nations are disrupted. And around that same time, Shell PLC, which is like the Shell Oil Company's new name, announced that they had seen double the profits year over year for the latest quarter. They have so much money on hand that they are buying back $4 billion of their own stock, which if you know what that means, that just means that they are making their stock price higher. So they're like, we're going to invest this money in making ourselves richer.

The people who are rich, we are making ourselves richer. Because, you know, times are tough right now for a while. Yeah, good for those guys. Good for them, right? Yeah, so in no uncertain terms, they raised prices, not because they had to, but in order to, you know, it wasn't like to stay solvent. It was because there was the perception that gas prices were going to go up

and they were allowed to jump on that. And because we can't do shit as consumers of gasoline, you know, they have something that they call inelastic demand, which just means like, hey, they can't do shit. And the government no longer has any control over them thanks to years of deregulation. Like Biden issued a statement at the end he he really seems like the the overwhelming impression and like sentiment that you get from him is like god damn it i can't that nobody's listening to me i can't i can't make any changes well the the one thing that he was he threatened was like you could tax those profits you You absolutely could. You know, I mean, like it's like it's one of these things where it's like, you know, the FTC could get involved and investigate price gouging. People are like for that.

But then it's like the political will. I know it's like a good talking point. But the follow through is like just embarrassing. Right. Yeah. And then the top comment on, like, I saw this everywhere, but, like, Yahoo article, the top comment is about is someone being like, I see of you just don't understand how complex this is, is I think one of the big factors at work here when we talk about climate or when we talk about inflation, this idea that there is this complex machine that we don't understand. And even though

it seems pretty obvious that people are raising prices and everybody is getting fucked except for them and they're getting to take that money and make themselves even richer than they already are. Like that seems pretty straightforward. But there there is this like there's this barrier of understanding that they lean on again and again of just being like, yeah, you don't understand. Just leave it to the experts. And I think that the adults and I think that has a lot to do with like the state that we find ourselves in where people feel just like helpless. Like, yeah, I mean, like, because a lot of times, like, we blame ourselves for being, like, feeling disconnected or, like, not doing more. And I think we need to acknowledge, like, what are the things that are making it so that we feel like we can't do more? And I think this is it. economic results are reported mainly in just like the business page and the ceos are quoted like credulously and admiringly about like how they navigated this to like get maximum profits and like control expenditure and it's just you know nobody nobody is acknowledging like the connection between that and then the big story on the front page that's

like inflation and climate change are both right you know harming the vast majority of the globe while these people are you know the cause of it is that these people are unwilling to do anything that won't make them richer and richer the idea like right with i just want to talk like with shell right they've been pretty clear from the beginning that they're not like they're not they're not being harmed as a business because when they talk internally or to shareholders like the head of shell was talking about how the russian invasion was like great for business on a call he said quote the performance we are seeing this quarter of course has been helped by the macro and the macro has been impacted by the war in ukraine

right it's not nothing to do with like help us right thanks war no yeah 100 they're like and we'll just take that and put that over here into our pockets. Because all the time, like the oil and gas industry is like, we need more licenses to drill. You don't. You don't. You don't. You're like, there's like this false sense of like, man, this is the only way we can keep prices stable. Like if you allow us to drill more and find more ways to like extract more fossil fuels, et cetera, et cetera. Meanwhile, they're like, man, we doubled our profits last year. Holy shit. And you're, and you ask yourself for all the talk

of like, well, we can't, you know, do this, that, and the other, because of all the regulations. It's like, you have all the profits you've made as a company to, you know, like invest them back into your fucking company. Right. There's no, there's no, the intention for that is absolutely gone. It's just like, nah, let's just buy back the stock. Let's just let's help enrich the shareholders. And we can just keep up this sort of charade of like, it's on the brink, man. We're like, we're really struggling here as an industry. OK, here's like four billion dollars. Right. Yeah. And I think, did you see Biden's tweet today? I think it was to the Exxon CEO or whatever, because the Exxon CEO was saying, you know, we're hearing that we should give some money back to the people with our profits. And we are we're giving stock dividends. And then Biden's like, I can't believe I have to say this, but giving money to people that own your stock is not exactly like giving to the every man. Right. Well, we're giving it to every man that owns stock so stock we're robin hood yeah gotcha biden it's kind of like the logic we constantly see it's really it is it is really hard to watch and i mean yeah like to your point jack of like

what happens what do we do what's going on like we also talk about like the new york times how they're also have a hand and be like yeah let me yes and also let me obscure what's going on too because of also just the nature of how our media is you know fossil the fossil fuel industry has a direct line into every newspaper to publish it like and mostly through like sponsored content but right still they still have a hand in that which makes it even more insidious when you're trying to also be like, don't worry, chill out, chill out. And also here's some SpawnCon from Exxon. Yeah. SpawnCon from Exxon. those people get there from having unpaid internships and, you know, probably went to

Ivy League schools with a lot of the people who are these like masters of the global economy. And I think they're just inside this worldview that makes them incapable of just like taking a step back and being like, we are facing a World War II level challenge. That's the last time that everybody had a challenge that was existential and everyone has to mobilize, everyone has to coordinate. And instead, these motherfuckers are doing the opposite in order to enrich themselves. That's bad. the there is just this like interconnected web of like you know marketing and investment and finance that just makes it sort of it's like impossible to pierce you know it's you can't get through it and i think it leads to a lot of just feelings of helplessness and confusion

and then people with that confusion you know either to you know keep digging and keep pushing or you know fascism becomes an easy answer where we just like have someone to look at and be like that that's the bad guy because somebody's at least giving me a bad guy to root against. Like it's interesting to me, like no oil CEOs. I was like, let me like look up Darren Woods and Mike Worth, like these CEOs of these energy companies. And they're just I've I've never seen their pictures before. I've never really heard them mentioned that often, other than if I go digging on the business page and reports about how well they're doing their job.

And it's just like, no, we need villains. People need villains to understand this. And the mainstream media is just kind of ignoring their role as storytellers to to make sense of this it feels like in a lot of ways well they tell stories through like i said spawn con you know like the new york times i think really has they they gotta take a real long look in the mirror but that's all the time but i think for them to you know publish stuff like they always say stuff like we put out the most content about climate change without really being honest about

their like what they do for like fossil fuel financed content within the paper it's kind of a bad look you know they have this thing called t-brand studios which is their custom content advertiser like studio like any company has like the thing where they do we'll do stuff with branded branded content and they actively make this like native advertising for like exxon shell chevron and the ads look like like new york times editorial pieces like it's the same font package everything stylistically looks the same you'll see a bug at the top that does say this is an advertisement but again the like the posts just completely misrepresent what the companies are actually doing so like one will be for like shell and it'll say like yeah looking

into you know biofuel sorry exxon mobil's looking into biofuel research and etc etc to sort of make it seem like yeah exxon's actually all in on figuring out how we get out of this when they're not like these companies aren't everything they're doing is saying let's get the let's get as much money as possible and let's not make the same mistake the tobacco industry did which was to like allow the narrative to get out of our control. And look what happened there. Yeah. And they, like, it's not just that they are, like, putting these articles up that might fool people, but those articles are extraordinarily lucrative for the New York Times.

They are the thing that funds the New York Times. So is the New York Times then going to turn around and be like, here are the faces of the enemy? Here's Mike Worth. Yeah, here's Mike Worth. He is the one who is on a day-to-day basis, you know, choosing instead of choosing to take these record profits and invest them back into renewables and like change the landscape of how, you know, the world is powered. He is, you know, buying back stock so that his shareholders are happy so that he can continue to be paid, you know, thousands of times more than, you know, most CEOs throughout history would reasonably be able to pay themselves without

being ashamed. Yeah. Do we need to like have like a deck of cards that has all the fossil fuel executives on it like they did like back in the day we're like these are the people in the taliban right deck of cards where it's like just so you just get familiar with the people who are decision makers and a lot of this stuff who are have a real active role in whether obscuring your understanding of climate change or saying like fuck it like just cut the brakes on this thing and let's just keep going yeah there's a big new york times magazine feature that came out at the end of last week and like right in line with the un report and it's basically like yeah it'll be bad for some people but not everyone

such as life our entire civilization won't end, you know, leaving out the important. Some civilizations will end, part of the equation, and just like our entire global world, you know, is basically like taking the worst case scenarios that people were saying like five, 10 years ago was possible if we did nothing and being like, man, it's not that bad. We're not going man it's not that bad we're not going up by five degrees celsius we're only going up by two right two degrees celsius first of all we have to continue to make big changes in order to cut it to just two degrees celsius but two degrees celsius is going to like destroy the ability for people to live in their home country, like entire countries.

Like it's, yeah, it's going to flood the, like lots of places where people have been living for generations and generations is going to make life brutally hard. And it's going to kill a lot of people. But that's some people, Jack,

that's some people. And that seems to be the thesis of the article is like, when, when you take a step back, though, it's like, yeah, you know, people die. People die all the time. Right. It's interesting that this came out in line with the UN report. Yeah, I'm glad that you guys brought this up because I get the daily New York Times email thing that kind of is a summation of the the paper and uh as a lazy reader i often will read that email and not read the articles you know but even what they put in that email was still like the the subject line

was the climate's improved future i was like oh well so we got some good news on the horizon. That's great. And then and then in the little the clip in the email, it said a new world well past climate normal. All right. So it's well past climate normal and yet mercifully short of true climate apocalypse. climate apocalypse right so framed as this like optimistic message it's uh yeah it was very strange i'm glad you guys pointed that out because i yeah yeah i was yeah wait wait wait what is this weird it's the wrong time to subdue people when right drastic action is needed yeah and for lazy readers like myself many people could just go oh great it's fixed yeah okay so it's not that bad no no no no no no no the fucking scientists are like hey assholes you're fucking falling woefully short here yeah yeah and for a long time i relied on the new york times too like i it's only through like having to do this show every day and paying attention to all these stories that I'm like, oh, they really is like what the cynical people like what I used to think was sort of like people just being doom

and gloom. And, you know, like I just thought if The New York Times said it was good enough, it's good enough. And it's like, no, it's The New York Times is a for profit institution funded by these massive multibillion dollar energy companies. And that's that's where this messaging is is coming from. You know, it's not like they're coming out and completely telling the shell version of things. They're acknowledging there is a problem, but they are putting a like kind of polish on it that makes it seem like, hey, guys, where you can you can kind of ease up on the on the concern. Yeah, it's just interesting. Like when the New York Times banned when they said they wouldn't do tobacco advertising anymore. Yeah, they weren't being like it's not because it's an activist thing. It's a journalism thing. Like, we're not going to pretend that this product won't cause terrible health outcomes and then profit from that. And people at the time were like, wow, okay, cool. The Guardian doesn't take any money from the fossil fuel industry. And like, they drew a line there. They're like, yeah, that's completely fucked up. Like we we've identified this industry as, you know, directly relating to a lot of the terrible pollution issues that we have. And like now with the people ask the Times, they're like, well, what about this? Like it's established what false burning fossil fuels is doing to the earth. And that's terrible for people's safety and health. Why not the same standards anymore? and health why not the same standards anymore yeah i think that's really telling especially like when like it was is it still owned by who owns the times now not solsberger but before like the previous owners were talking about how like the science is dense i have billionaire face

blindness i can't yeah exactly between like other than elon musk and jeff bezos that's that's all my brain has room for yeah and so i think what we're seeing. Oh, no, it still is the Sulzbergers. Like so it there's just this they found a way to rhetorically like change the goalposts as to why like fossil fuel money is different than tobacco money. Right. And it's again, it's truly at our own peril. Like when the whole point of being able to inform people is to just say like this is quite literally what is going on yeah and it's and it's understandable it's not a it's not a like web of like algorithms and things that you couldn't possibly understand so don't even bother it's understandable inflation is understandable i just had to go to the Guardian to find the only understandable explanation for it, which is that the narrative of inflation allows CEOs to raise prices, and they're just making more money. If you just connect, they're raising prices, and then you go to their earnings calls, and they're like like we're making way more money we raised our

prices by 20 we're making 20 20 more profit it's fucking it's amazing yeah but but again like the the guardian a uk paper has made that change where they're not accepting money from these corporate donors who are corporate interests who want to obscure that and they're the one place you can go to like actually find someone making sense of it i don't think that's a don't think that's a mistake yeah all right well enough of that shit let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the McRib. Thank God. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast Forgive Me

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I have never eaten one. Same. Have you all ever even had a McRib? I've never had a McRib. Oh, Miles, you would love the McRib, man. Really? Yeah, I'm not lying. Well, let me

tell you why. The reasons from my perception, right? Yeah. When I first heard of it, as somebody who grew up in a barbecuing family, the word rib has a quite literal meaning to me. When I heard of the McR who like grew up in a barbecuing family like the word rib has a quite literal meaning to me so when i heard of the mick rib i'm like and i saw it on a thing i'm like you can bite the bones and shit right because they do like craft it into a sponge that has bone shapes like bone mark yeah bone gradation and that's and that's their logo for it is you can bite the bones yeah and i'm like so that always put me off the simulated bones i was like no this is

fucking weird i love simulated bones but oh good that's me no matter what no matter when it's all it's it's real mushy is the thing that you don't expect. It's like it gives you, I think, more than any other piece of McDonald's meat. It gives you the sense of like you're the reason I was saying you might like it is because of your taste in fries, which is like the soggy. When you eat a fry, you like for it to be like falling apart in your hand as you just like fling it into your mouth. Yeah, that's kind of the vibe you get from the mcrory oh no yeah for uh the what you don't like mushy meat yeah i don't like what is it like a floppy like a like a brown floppy piece of meat foam is kind of the but but it's all it's it's the the whole thing is kind of in just delivering a impressionistic take of like what barbecue would be in the mind of an alien, you know, to 2000 years after humanity and all of our, you know, they've just read about it.

And this is like an impression of like we we think this is what they were doing with with that well it has the essence of smoke and meat right just doesn't have any of that really i i guess it is made of pork right it just has such lab experiment vibes yes oh for like when i look at it i'm like what who, who thought this shit up and thought that was a good thing to eat? Well, I can tell you. So first of all, the people who thought up the marketing farewell tour is the music industry. That was my first thought when I saw, oh, they're doing another farewell tour. This reminds me of every Rolling Stones tour.

Eagles, man. The last time. The Eagles. The Rolling Stones tour when they're like the last time the Eagles, the Rolling Stones, the share apparently has done like dozens of farewell tours. So, but as for the history of the McRib, it was first developed utilizing military technology to restructure meat for

soldiers. Hold on. Restructure meat for soldiers. Yes. Ooh. Okay. I'm getting hungry. Yeah yeah yamma yamma go on so why haven't they uh why haven't they used uh you know they also made food for space food you ever eaten that space food oh yeah it's a space food vibes crunchy foam you know yeah why don't

they use that for uh for mcdonald's things more often i think this reminds me of that it reminds me of like i just watched 2001 a space odyssey again and they have that scene where they're like going to the moon base and they're like they've really like gotten the feel of regular food as they're eating the sandwiches they're like right right right this is like it kind of feels like that it's oh, they've done a pretty good job using just the restructured concept of meat. Isn't that what chicken nuggets are, too? It's just like this goop. I was just going to say, like, chicken nuggets definitely feel more like you are getting chicken.

Like, they feel more like you can sense the presence of chicken more in a chicken nugget than you can sense the presence of ribs in a McRib. I feel their souls. Chicken nuggets to me are like its own food group in a way. I'm like, yeah, fried chewy nugs with meat flavor. I think McRub pushes it even further in the direction of new food group. Got it. It comes out in 1982.

Okay. And it. It comes out in 1982. Okay. And it is a huge flop. It's premiered in 82 and immediately starts disappearing in 82. By 1983, the McRib is basically gone, except it'll reappear suddenly in some places only to disappear again with no one really knowing how or why.

Then comes the Flintstones movie in the 1990s and john they're like john goodman great film moranis yes rosie o'donnell rosie o'donnell thank you who was the other oh Oh, sorry. Just to say it was Elizabeth Perkins was Wilma. Okay. Rosie O'Donnell. Rosie O'Donnell. Oh, then Halle Berry was Sharon Stone was her name. That's right. Halle Berry as Sharon Stone?

That was her Flintstones name. Did they try and cast Sharon Stone and have to recast at the last moment? I don't know. I think maybe it was just like, it was such a nineties film that they're like, this is a great name to evoke. Cause it has a rock word in it. Yeah.

It's a pun. Oh yeah. No, it works. It works for me, but it is weird to be like, and Halle Berry as Sharon Stone does sound like a weird sentence to say. Yeah.

But so they bring it back for that. And wait, so wait, is theRib supposed to be dinosaur ribs? Yeah, because Fred Flintstone would eat giant brontosaurus ribs. And so they were like, there you go. Like, that's a thing. And this is going to be the biggest hit movie of all time. So we're going to reintroduce a food stuff specifically for the Flintstones. And kids love the vitamins.

Yeah, that's right. I mean, people like eating things having to do with the Flintstones. There's something about that. And smoking Winston cigarettes. Kids also like that. If you've seen the Fred Flintstone and Barney having a nice Winston behind the house commercials from the 1960s and 70s.

So McRib stays on the menu again, but in 2005 it went on, you guessed it, a farewell tour. That's 2005. So 17 years ago. It goes on its first farewell tour followed by three more farewell tours.

You can like go back and look at there's images. McRib, the farewell tour to 2006. Theories abound that McDonald's is actually releasing and recalling the McRib in direct reaction to fluctuating pork prices. And if you like go back and map the appearance and the farewell tours of the McRib, it kind of works. Oh, like they only hit it in the valleys, like in terms of like when they're hitting, like when it's at a low, they're like, all right, baby, buy up the pork. The McRib is back.

Yes. Is beef, do beef prices? Is that just like a horizontal line? Is that? Is beef, do beef prices, is that just like a horizontal line? Is that? I think it must be more steady. And also it's probably more steady because McDonald's exists, right? Yeah.

And they're the biggest, like one of the biggest, if not the largest, like purchasers of beef. When they put apples in one of their salads, they became the biggest purchaser of apples in the United States. So, yeah, they, like, it's hard to say, okay, are they reacting to trends or are they creating them? Oh, yeah. Maybe those dips and valleys are results of the McRib going in and out. Yeah. Like insider information that they're going to bring back. It's a chicken nugget or egg McMuffin situation. That's right. What came first, the chicken nugget or the egg McMuffin?

Nobody knows. I don't know. So that makes a lot of sense. But it's, yeah, like we said, it's the same strategy that musical acts do and that infuriate people. acts do and that infuriate people like that so ozzy osbourne had the no more tours tour when he was you know initially retiring i think in 1992 and then in 2019 no more tours to share lcd sound system the who like every genre like they've all said goodbye nine inch nails around i think trent resner did it yeah yeah goodbye tour i i they he duped me for that i was like i'm there trent yeah let's go and then i'm like he's still going i think the ballsiest was share did a farewell multiple

farewell tours and then at one point she did a farewell tour and moved directly on to a Vegas residency for three years. Yeah. I think the reason it works is that, I mean, like, so when you saw when you were duped by Trent, you weren't bummed that you went to the show. No, not at all. So he's back. Oh, that's only good news. You're never like, I went to one farewell show and I don't want to go to another one. Yeah, no, not at all.

I was like, I was there like two years later when he did another tour and i was like yeah yeah great great great i'm here i'm here i'm here next to a guy who was juggling led fucking balls next to me while i was tripping and it was the most annoying thing there's a guy i remember at i think it was outside i forget which tour i like big festival they were at i was next to some guy who was juggling the whole fucking show that's yeah like light up balls and i was like this is a fuck this is too much for me anyway but all that to say i'm not mad at when a farewell tour goes on but yeah if it's good if they do a good job that's that's fantastic or it's also the uh the disney vault they'll do that too yeah the vault's closing yeah which. Which is so weird.

Yeah. We only can open it for, yeah, it almost like I had an idea of the Disney vault that was like a, like magical crypt that they could only open for like a couple weeks at a time. It's like, wait a second,

this company has total control to do whatever the fuck they want, whenever the fuck they want. Yeah. It's just a sales moratorium is what we call it more than anything rather than like did did waltz ghost let us look at the tapes again but i will say just with lcd sound sound system i'll never james murphy played himself i thought they were done years ago and they're ever fucking everywhere again like especially this last summer i was like i thought y'all were fucking done but yeah look i get it they have fans yeah barbara streisand's

fans actually tried to sue her after paying for hefty ticket prices for her first farewell tour wow and so she did she went on a farewell tour in 2000 grossed 56 million dollars and then when she announced that she would be saying goodbye again in 2006 so that's they like they need to be keeping track of like okay that's too soon barbara streisand people will like literally sue you and it will become a news story but the mcrib like goes away every couple years so we don't uh like for fickle lawsuits and stuff the the shorthand has been speaking of mcdonald's you know the suing for coffee being too hot but uh it maybe should be suing for uh not doing a proper farewell tour strice and you know yeah well and the coffee too hot thing is a great example of like corporations having control over like how our

media works because the person who got burned by their coffee like mcdonald's had been warned by consumer groups like your coffee is way too hot like if somebody spilled it on themselves they will have like third degree burns like you need to chill out with how fucking hot your coffee is they ignored those warnings the person had like permanent skin damage from the hot coffee uh and we're all like oh yeah there's there's that asshole like i only learned that like years after i had been telling you know using a short yeah that was that was myth busted uh recently yeah the the best way to do a farewell tour this is the bob dylan method is always seem like you are on the verge of death and just stay

touring i went and saw bob dylan in like 2006 and i was like this motherfucker is might not make it through this show right he's and then he's he's still touring he's been on permanent tour for the last 30 years he's like backstage just laughing counting his money he's like those dumb sobs doing crossfit dying yeah he's doing crossfit and then comes out he's like he's like i can clean and jerk 300 pounds man they ain't fucking with me but is there any like is there anything to being able to sue for for an artist saying this is the farewell, like to come out to say this is the last time. But I guess it's hard to say because you can't be like, you know, you have the right as a human being to be like, you know, actually, I wanted to come out of retirement. You know what I mean?

Like, that's not obviously illegal, but clearly, obviously, like in the in terms of like someone's motivation to buy a ticket at a higher price. in terms of like someone's motivation to buy a ticket at a higher price, hearing that this could be the last time you'll see them clearly would add extra motivation. Yeah. And my theory is that it's not necessarily the artist's fault. It's I think the artist is like, yeah, I'm pretty good. Like I'm ready to retire. And I think this goes for boxers who come out of retirement. But they are not. Once you're famous and like, you know, you have an entire company's worth of people making money off of everything you do, you are no longer really in control of your own life. And so, you know, the people that you surround yourself with, the people you get business advice from, are all going to be pushing you to come out of retirement, even if it's bad for you,

even if it's like shitty to your customers, like there is, you are like in an information bubble of people who are like, the people are calling for it, Barb, like we got to do it. I guess nobody calls Barbara Streisand, Barb. Barb. She was Babs. She was Babs. She was Babs. Yeah. Babs, Jack.

Well, and, or Ozzy Osbourne, you know, he did his No More Tours and then, but he had no idea he was going to do like this huge hit reality show and his whole family was going to become crazy famous. Also, like he might not have had any idea he was doing the No More Tours part two until like, they were like, yeah, just walk through that door. Ozzy walked out. There's a stadium full of people. Yeah.

That, that feels like one that's especially predatory. I mean, I think it was funny. Like the last time I was like, wait, they're not retired was Jay Z. Cause I was such a Jay Z fan.

And then one of the blueprint or when the black album came out, I'm like, damn, that's a good way to go out. Yeah. Okay. Got her ass. Then the subsequent albums. I like bro excuse this what the fuck is this shit because like none of his like latter day albums like rank in his top five i'm like at all but i get for him

he was like man i there you know what they're still buying this shit we can put magna carta holy grail as like a download on Samsung phones. Fuck it, baby. I'm back. I think there's a reason people do the I'm going to go out on top. Like they usually when people do that, they have some instinct that like they're not staying on top for that much longer. Right. And then when they do come out of retirement, it's it usually gives a pretty good. I don't know.

Like I'm thinking of Jay-Z. I'm thinking of Seinfeld is another example where people are like, they're going out on top. And their last season wasn't their best season, but it was still good enough. But then when Seinfeld does stand up after that, it's just not there anymore, man. It's no good. But he is a fashion icon, so we can

always look up to him for that. Well, Matthew, truly a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Matthew Patrick Davis on Instagram or on YouTube. I have

music videos of songs that I've written and on Instagram I'll start posting spoilery things about Barbarian, probably after Halloween. So if you want to see the process of how the prosthetics were done or that kind of thing, that'll be a coming. Stay tuned. Nice. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media

you've been enjoying? Well, so, yeah, I think maybe this isn't like a tweet or a current meme or anything, but a YouTube rabbit hole that is a comfort food for me is old Jiminy Glick interviews. Do you know who Jiminy Glick is? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Martin Short. Yeah. It's a character Martin Short did like in the 90s.

And there's like hours of VHS quality videos on YouTube where he's, you know, interviewing Spielberg, say, and, you know, going like, so you want an make the big one? You know, something that really clicks with the audience. You know, he's a precursor to Between Two Ferns or like the Ali G show or Sasha Baron Cohen stuff. So, yeah, I enjoy those. Great. Great recommendation. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Well, I was going to say, Matt, have you seen the video that was comparing Tucker Carlson with Jiminy Glick? Oh, my gosh.

No. You know, what about? And like just his his delivery, just side by side with Jiminy Glick. Oh my gosh, no. You know, what about? And like, just his delivery, just side by side with Jiminy Glick. For someone who appreciates Jiminy Glick, you'll probably find it really funny. Like if you just search Twitter, Tucker Carlson, Jiminy Glick.

Yes, me. Find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. Also check us out on milesandjack.madboosties. That's our basketball podcast that we do with the NBA. Ever heard of it? And also check me and Sophia Alexander out on the other podcast, 420 Day Fiance, where we talk about 90 Day Fiance. Let's see. Let's see some tweets that I like.

Okay. This is from last week. It's from at J. Milstein, John Milstein. He's making fun of people on conservative dating apps. Is this TikTok that he did? And about like, yeah, dude, it's obviously like everybody's using these apps. I'll play a little bit of it where he's playing a guy who's talking about like, you totally meet really cool women on these conservative dating apps. Meet my girlfriend I met on the conservative dating app, The Right Stuff. Actually, she just left a second ago, but she'll be back really soon. Me and my girlfriend connected because we both believe in free speech, guns being allowed to go off anywhere, and that a woman should

be her man's cheerleader, even if she's more accomplished than him. She's sitting just off camera in this, and she's laughing, laughing. So anyway, it's such a fantastic construction. Oh yeah, it's fantastic. It's great over here. So yeah, it's such a fantastic construction. Oh, yeah, it's fantastic. It's great over here. So, yeah, check back to DuckGoth.

Things are good. Yeah. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Tweet I've been enjoying. Grudette walks home alone at night. Tweeted us. We would like an edit button. Elon.

And then it's a meme from some cake boss reality show maybe best i could do is mask off racism oh and then there's just like one of those four four panel photograph things of a cat doing a thing i've seen cats do so frequently where they are sleeping wake up with a start like startled and then go right back to sleep and says oh no i overslept oh i forgot i'm a cat which is probably what's going on in their life very will ferrell oh that's right you're a fucking dog that speaking of will ferrell when miles you asked matthew what that was behind him and he was like i think it's a fender I didn't know if you were quoting the Satan sketch. Oh, the Satan with the note, Garth Brooks bit.

It's like, it is a hell-bending spindle. Made of the bones and sinew of sinners. It's a fender. I think it's a fender. Anyways, you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes.

We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? You know, it's time for some, you know, I guess it's something spooky, but I don't want to play anything that's going to freak people the fuck out. But I just wanted to play a track that i really enjoyed when i was just getting into college it's preview 73 with the track pentagram and i figure well the name pentagram evokes some weird dark shit if you're you know into satanic panic and all that uh but it's a

really fantastic track like you know he's like the one of the OGs of the beat scene. And this is a really dope track with this sort of chopped up acoustic guitar with this vocal sample. So check out Pentagram by Perfuse73. All right. Well, we'll link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you list your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning. Back this

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