The Daily Zeitgeist - Skinny TrendBA Players 10/22: NBA, Trump vs. DOJ, BiBiSitters, New Moon, Toll Text Scam

Episode Date: October 22, 2025

In this edition of Skinny TrendBA Player, Jack and Miles discuss the start of the NBA season, Trump trying to steal hundreds of millions in tax payer dollars, Trump sending 'BiBiSitters' to Israel, a new moon in the sky (according to NASA), that very popular (and lucrative) 'Toll Text' scam and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Gray. The NBA season kicked off last night. Tragically. Tragically. Tragically for this unwell Lakers fan. But we, the main thing I'm waiting to see is there are multiple players in the league who

lost a leg's worth of weight over the summer. Depending on whose leg. Could have been two. Um, Joel Embedd. Luke Adonchich. How's, two players for our. Yeah. I'm skinny Joel looking.

He's looking as slim as he's looking as slim as he's looked. Does it look like that will help the inch, like less weight on the carriage? I mean, there's no way it can't help to be like carrying less weight. Zion is the big one. There's a guy named Zion Williamson who has always been built like a linebacker from, like, there are highlights of him playing in high school basketball against like kids who haven't hit puberty yet. And he looks exactly like he has his whole career, which is like a fucking brick shit house. And he's just like skying and dunking on everybody.

That's always been the thing that's wild about him is like he's bigger, but also has the highest vertical leap in the league. He came back and looks like a whole different human this year. He looks like 50 cent in that one movie that he lost all that way for. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I'm curious what this does to their NBA games. Like we're in a new era, a new, new scientific boundaries are being pushed. I'm sure none of them are like, yeah, it was Ozmpic.

I'm sure they're all like, I tell you what I was doing. I was working my ass off in the gym, but let's be honest. It would stand a reason that you probably could do that, you know, like when you're an athlete. Because I feel like Zion can gain the weight just as quickly as he loses it. Right. It's like we've seen past seasons. But like Luca Donchich's like revenge body, as it were, for being poked fun at like by the Mavericks sort of front offers.

He loves lemonade. The guy was out of shape all the time, sort of talking shit about it. He looked fucking amazing. I will say that. That's great. So that's early returns. Very encouraging. 43 points, Jack. And suddenly they're more athletic than they were before.

That's exciting. But I mean, because the warriors were clearly trying to stop Luca. He still dropped 43 points on them. Yes. And he's the only thing that you guys have going as the latest. Look, we lost by 10 we missed nine free throws we're missing lebron lebron kind of look i don't look i don't know if you've seen it he looks he looks kind of out of it like usually when he's sitting out and there's a

time out like he's up in it yeah as he's trying to be like the he's like i'm lebron like let me give him he kind of look like he didn't really give a shit hmm interesting anyway body language doctor is here um yep yeah i think i think the whole ozepic question just comes from like i've met I know people who like lost a lot of weight on a Zempec and they just seem tired you know and I don't know if it's just that they look tired because they're like literally deflated or what

what so that's what I'm very curious to see how this season goes with like a few players that I'm at least positing had a little Zempizi going on behind the scenes. Hey whatever get it how you live you know what I mean

but don't but hey look Luca however you did it fine but keep putting up 43 points a night and we're just great you might look tired but you look potent then peasy too many want to be hard be easy uh this is the trending episode where we tell you what is trending in the news uh donald trump is trying to get 230 million dollars in taxpayer money paid directly to him well we'll call it restitution uh-huh it's it's restitution for the he just absolutely he's suing because the by like

there were investigations into him he's like the Russia the crimes that he committed yeah just because there's a Senate intelligence document that shows that I was talking with people on the Russian side of things you know there's plenty of evidence that I was

shifting documents around that I shouldn't have had Mara Lago for that he says he is owed $230 million he's been trying to get his money for years actually like even when he was out of office he was like hitting the DOJ was like here's my complaint i want my money now yeah and he was asked about this you know a little payola thing pay out to himself and he responded quite well with his trademark senility um this is a journalist asking hey what's up with this story we're hearing about you want to get

$230 million to yourself from your own justice department investigations into you and look for compensation and how much are you asking for? Who's asking for what? Are you asking for justice? You, motherfucker? Pay you compensation. Who's compensation? Is it compensation?

Are you asking them to pay compensation and how much? Into me? I don't get any compensation. I do it for nothing. I gave up my salary. Into me? Okay. Sir.

Sir. You're the one asking for $230 million. They're asking you. for who he is feeling that that was reginomics or uh reganesque a little bit and not in the way that he wants to be reganesque uh he's someone who seems tired after dropping some ozepic weight i would say uh donald trump he might just that brain tired bro yeah like i mean somebody who's been just like a machine fueled by dumping big max into a fucking furnace and then like suddenly he's on ozepic and can't like doesn't have the same fuel uh i don't know

know if that's working out for him. He has, this has been a thing from the start that like, he doesn't always say, like, he'll, he'll hint at it. He'll be like, you know, I deserve, like, I could be making more money than I am. Like, his kids are always being like, you don't understand. Like, he's taking such a pay cut to be the president of the American people. He's sacrificing money, which has been, like, actually the opposite of the truth. Like this second term has been a fucking financial windfall for him and all of his family.

All the kids are making their own deals right now. But it does, like this is what he thinks he deserves. I feel like all, like, rich people, that ends up just being the main distinguishing factor between rich people and other people is not like that they deserve it. It's that they think they deserve it. Right, right, right. You know what I mean? And therefore there's no guilt around it.

Yeah, no guilt. And they'll pursue it shamelessly. until the ends of the earth and usually they get it because once you have a lot of money you can use that money to make other people's lives hell until they give you their money.

Yeah, it seems like, I don't know, he was asked again today about that and he was sort of like, I'll be making the final call on that. Like he didn't seem quite, I think he just, I think a lot of people are like, you know, I mean, you're stealing our money.

I mean, you've been stealing our money, but like this is really fucking be like, and my own DOJ will give me $230 million and potentially open the door for other freaks to be like, I was wrongfully accused. Where's my money? He's going to be like forensic analysts will be untangling for years, like all the different ways that he enriched himself based on the presidency. Part of me feels like it's so out in the open. Right.

They're like, oh, yeah. It's going to be worse than anybody thinks. Like, it's going to be so ridiculous and absurd. Some people have said that it's possible he already got paid out by his own DOJ. It just hasn't been reported yet. So this is them just trying to be like, could we make it so that that's not a scandal when it comes up? Who knows? Who knows?

Anything to, I don't know, detract or distract from every other fucking thing that's going on. We also have a situation in the Middle East where we are sending what you, you know, what, you have termed b-be-sitters. That's what I've been seeing on the internet, yeah. Yeah. Don't tell mom the b-be-sitter's dead. Yeah. Yeah, so this is because, obviously, the quote-unquote ceasefire that wasn't has become

tragically obvious. Yeah, they're just killing Palestinian people. Yeah, just under the bogus claim. It's like, well, Hamas is like acting in bad faith. It's like, you're fucking killing people again. Right. What are you saying here? Anyway, this is freaking out Trump because, obviously,

Obviously, he so badly is right now obsessed with heaven and being Mr. Peacemaker that he sent J.D. Vance already to Israel to try and talk to Netanyahu. And now Secretary of State Marco Rubio is headed there to try and keep the quote unquote ceasefire intact, whatever that means. Because from the, like, it was maybe only a day or so of like, oh, yeah. Less killing. I don't think there was a day where they weren't killing Palestinian people. on some level, whether that's through, you know, withholding aid or through kinetic means. But, yeah, this is just this description of it. Vance's arrival on Tuesday followed a report from the New York Times stating that there's a concern within the Trump administration that Netanyahu may abandon the ceasefire deal and restart the war.

What? Looks like he has. Yeah, he's been doing that from day one. Yeah. As you were up there celebrating, he was abandoning the ceasefire deal. Yeah. And it goes on to say the current strategy is for Vance Cushner and Whitkoff to convince Netanyahu not to resume military operations against Hamas. Against Hamas is doing, come on now.

It's not, these are against innocent people. Yeah, they're saying Hamas is around them. Or, you know, a van full of children is fair game. So Hamas was in the air. Hamas has gone airborne. It was all around that band. This is, yeah. Good luck, good luck.

But it's, I don't know. I mean, like, part of me is like, if you want the ceasefire to work, it's pretty obvious how you bring him to heal. Stop arming them. Yeah. Stop physically supporting them and financially supporting them. Yeah, but what if we just said, please don't? Please, dude. All right.

What did he say? What did BBC say? You've left me no option. I'm going to send Marco Rubio. Yeah. All right. Okay. I'm sending in the dog.

The hound's coming in. The fuck do I care. Yeah. Anyways. Fuck, B. be Netanyahu would be I know there I said it I think he's a bad guy what did he ever do to you he's also a Sixers fan jack is he a Sixers fan I don't know I mean he's from philly he just has that accent he's from philly yeah he's like from philly you know he went he was raised in philadelphia

so that's crazy probably that and rocky you might have a lot more in common he's like my favorite movie is jaws what are you guys going to have me on the daily zeitgeist I love love ocean city man. I love Jaws. I love Ocean City. I love Manko and Menko's pizza. One time I went on a ride and kind of pissed myself. You completely fuck around. You're like, I lied about it. All right, Bibi, what's your order at Manko Manko?

Same exact order. Mountain Dew. Jesus Christ. Yeah, just when I treat myself to Mountain Dew, man. Can't trust myself with the stuff. You tried Baja blessed? Oh, fuck. Oh, no.

What the fuck? No, Jack. They must have written up a dossier on you. He's just regurgitated. This is this is a sci-op. As I was saying, Miles, a new moon has dropped. Huh? New moon just dropped according to NASA.

They confirmed there are two moons now. It's, so this is, it reminds me of like when, you know, an artist drops a really good first album. Mm-hmm. And then the second album, everyone's expecting it to be really good. And it, it's just the first album was so good. The moon shouldn't follow up with another album. First moon, they killed it with it. They ate with the first moon.

That thing fucking rules. Some planetary systems only have one good moon in them. And we like honestly reading about the second moon makes me appreciative of the work they did with that first moon. Wow. It's like, all right, let me give you the stats. It's actually an asteroid that is 18 to 36 meters wide. Meeters.

What? That's like a yard. You can claim moon with that? Yeah. It's discovered by the University of Hawaii. Shout out to the University of Hawaii. Always out there just looking up with the sky, discovered new shit.

So we think that they do, but it just has been officially labeled a quasi-moon, which is a rare type of celestial companion that travels almost exactly in sync with the Earth. It's not bound to the Earth by gravity like the moon, which, what's, what's it doing up there then? so what so it's a quasi moon that's so we're saying it's already it's a kind of kind of moon let me just call it a celestial companion 60 years and we'll only uh stick around until 2083

oh great my 99th birthday gonna be there until 2083 so it's you know all right go home right go home celestial companion you're drunk this next one so it turns out this is not this is the first one that made it to moon status oh but We also have a pseudo second moon that dropped back in 1997 called 3753 Cruithne. I mean, if you want me to pronounce it correctly, come up with a name that seems like... What is Cruikin? C-R-U-I-T-H-N-E. Okay.

Get out of here. Sometimes called Earth's second moon, but technically not a moon. It's a quasi-orbital satellite. So it's not even quasi-moon. and it's quasi-orbital because it moves in a horseshoe orbit which makes it 800 years to complete and this one

this one sounds like it's shit-faced Wow, just so you know this is it's a reference to the early people of Ireland Jack so you should have put a little respect Kruthne. Kruithne. Oh, it's a Kriethne! That was Scottish I think. Likewise we can

see, so this is from a write-up of the horseshoe orbit. Horseshoe orbits are actually quite common for moons in the solar system. Saturn has a couple of moons in this configuration, for instance. Likewise, we can see the same pattern on Earth's second moon. What's unique about Krithne is how it wobbles and sways along its horseshoe. Oh, come on. We're doing a drunk joke here.

I mean, is that why they gave it an Irish name? It's all wobbly and drunk. That's fucked up. If you look at Kruthny's motion in the solar system, it makes a messy ring around Earth's orbit, swing so wide that it comes into the neighborhood of both Venus and Mars. It's just, like, leaning on whatever is close by. This is pretty, come on now. What are we trying to say here with this?

I know. That's fucked up. Anyways, shout out to the new moon. Welcome to the family. But really shout out to that first moon. It's pronounced. Creweenia. Creene.

That's the thing with Irish names. There's a guy, there's a goalkeeper named Kelleher, and his, last name looks like cowman but it's pronounced cleven what yeah man i whenever i see it like a like an irish word like that i'm like it is not gonna be what my brain thinks the letters are doing nope nice try asshole that's what that's what we like to say over in island yeah i haven't even given you the real pronunciation of o'brien i don't i don't even want to try it don't do it to him uh all right we're gonna take a quick break we'll be right back In the new podcast, Hell in Heaven, two young Americans moved to the Costa Rican jungle to start over.

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Listen to what are we even doing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. and so there was a Wall Street Journal article last week about have you been hit with these texts saying that you owe money on a toll yeah of course that like I went I've gone into collections with the Department of Transportation of California that's how unsurious I'm about my toll violations right of them are real right because yeah so they figured that out apparently um a recent Wall Street Journal article has estimated that criminals in China made $1 billion last year

on that scam, on the texting people and being like, hey, you owe toll money. Honestly. Shout out to you guys. You really, that's, that's such a good needle to thread where it's realistic enough to fuck it, I don't know. How much were people paying, though? Because I felt like, was it just like small amounts? I think it's a volume play based on the fact that I don't know anybody who wasn't hit with like at least one of these a week like over the past year.

Right. I think it's just a fucking volume play and they're just getting a ton of payment. I will say, so there's another scam that is now, I've heard of it anecdotally. It happened to the parent of somebody I know. And I just heard somebody on a podcast be like, yo, my parents like just got hit with this scam. I want to bring it up here where they are, and there's also like a viral R-scams, Reddit thread about it. But basically they send you money either over Zell or like directly into your bank

account and that like you get a notification. It's like you have $3,000 in your bank account. And then they call you and say, hey, I'm with whatever. They either say like I'm a, you know, private person or, you know, I'm with this organization. or something, yeah. And we accidentally sent you, sent you that money, and we, like, desperately need you

to send it back to us. We're, like, in trouble. Like, we go, go, go, go. Like, please help us, help us. And the money that, it's, like, it's tricky because the money is there in your bank account. But the problem is that, like,

it is fraudulent money. You know, it's the money that they send it back to make it real. Yeah. So basically, you just either need to, first of all, don't do, what they're saying. In the U.S., they say, avoid engaging with the sender. Contact your bank immediately. Let them know about the unexpected deposit and follow their instructions. Do not

spend the money if the transaction is flagged as fraudulent. The bank may reverse it. Report the scam. Contact your bank to report the suspicious transfer. But yeah, like that's, is it really like just talk to your parents or like any elderly person you know? Because that, that one, That'll get their ass. I've tried to tell my mom, I said, if anyone ever says they're me, you call, you say you hang up,

but you call me back immediately. Right. If anyone's even saying, my mom is so susceptible to, like, anyone who reminds her of me. Yeah, man.

That's how I am with my kids. She'll be like, oh, she reminded me of you. So I bought all these unproven house cleaning chemicals. I was like, what?

How much did you pay? She's like $80. I'm like, mom oh no this guy sold you bulls just bunko nonsense she's like i know but i felt bad if this is what he has to do and now they can clone your voice you know they already are probably yeah jesus of fortunately yeah keep hold that money hold that money i just i just pulled up i have one of the texts that i receive from this it says this is what this is what you see this is the california version it says california the state department of vehicles parenthetical dmv final notice

enforcement penalties begin on june 25th our record show that as of today you stop of an outstanding traffic ticket and a court is to blah, but perfect do to do. Go to this. This is where it's clever. It says go to H-T-P-S, so you know, secure. DMV.ca-W-R dot-C-C-C.

You're like, okay, there's DMV and CA in there. Yeah, yeah. Slash portal and just give them your little bit of money. Yeah. I don't know. It is one of the most conspicuous ways that this country is like, I just like,

has gotten so much worse. You watch an old movie and like the phone rings and there's a reasonable expectation that it's somebody calling. Right. Now like a phone call is 90% of the time, some scam bullshit. It's not. This country is not designed for people. Like it's only designed for corporations to extract money. Corporations make their money off loopholes and deregulation.

And so individual people are just not protected because we don't have anyone looking out for us. Like, that's supposed to be the politician's job. But, like, that has not been the case for over a decade. And it's not going to be the case until Citizens United's overturned. Or, Jack, or the constituents begin paying the politicians more than the corporations do. Okay. That's my counter. How much they give you?

Okay. Well, we can't do that. But can you keep the poison out of our water? But the poison water people just gave me like 80K in one go. What do you guys got? The early days of cracked where we were like advertising it with fucking coasters with like jokes on them in bars in New York. And we like sat down and had a meeting with like a real marketing firm. we're like yeah no just let us know like what's your normal rate and we're like uh-huh so we can't do

that that is not happening um but thank you so much for coming in yeah did you actually not open that bottle of water we actually spent a lot of money on that bottle of water i'm going to need you to leave that restaurant and you see like you you get the bread first but the menu next and you see how expensive it is you start putting the bread out of your mouth we got to go we got a go. This is not it. Please don't charge me for that bread bite. I didn't know. But yeah, it's, we're in a, everything is broken. Like the, all we, all we do in this country, we generate technologies that are fun to play with for a year before they get exploited by

loopholes by either the ultra wealthy corporations or scammers. Like that's. And sometimes they're all the same. All the same. Yeah. And it's, the fact that it isn't a bigger outrage, I think it's just, you know, it's been slow enough that it's sort of a generational thing where, like, young people aren't aware that this is not how it always was, that you weren't, that email used to be a thing that you could use, that fucking phones were a thing that when it rang, someone was calling. You got excited. You were excited when the phone rang.

Like, and everything is brought, Facebook, when at first, happened was actually like cool it was yeah and now it's just broken it's everything gets broken because of scammers and advertisers and corporations those are the days i remember when i used to like fucking think up kids from preschool that i haven't thought it in decades and like search for them and like finally like oh my god dude what happened you moved to fucking montana what yeah i'm a racist now no that's not everybody in montana not no no no not everyone just Just the racists that are there. But, yeah. Well, like, I remember also being errantly added to, like, friend groups where

people were like, that's a Brown Miles, I think we went to school with. Like, I was in this, like, message group with these kids in North Carolina who were convinced I was somebody they grew up with, even despite me being like, I don't know why you guys added me to this. Like, oh, Miles. You're just part of that chat from now on. Miles is so crazy. Oh, my God.

It's such a Miles. I was listening to the Pablo Torre Finds Out podcast, and the latest one that had, I listen to anything that Joe Mandy appears on. I'm a big Joe Mandy fan. Oh, sure, sure. It's so funny. It was just Joe Mandy and Mike Scher, and they were talking about a game they played in the Parks and Rec writers room where everybody, like you renamed people based on their vibe. Okay. Pete, you were like, okay, that's the name your parents gave you, but you're actually a Morton.

and I was thinking about that and I was like, we should play that game on Daily Zykeyes, but I think you're a Miles. Like, I don't think there's another name. Like,

is there a name that people call you or like, no. You're like, you are your name. Like, your parents fucking ate with that one. They did. They were.

You got it. I mean, look, they, I'm sure I've brought up the battle for my naming, but my mom wanted to name me Byron after Lord Byron. Yeah,

that doesn't work for me. And my dad was like, he's going to get his ass beat being named Byron. No. And then they went to a Gavrillo, Gavrillo, Pinsip. Hey, man, shut on him. He was handsome. Yeah, then it was either that, John Brown. Brian, the editor, said that Miles looks more like a Gavrillo.

My dad suggested John Brown, General William Tocumseh, Sherman, those kinds of names. No, they went to a Miles Davis concert and they were like, oh, Miles. That's cool. There it is. Yeah, I feel like, I don't know. When I look at you, you're definitely a, that's the thing. Yeah, I think we're both kind of our names. If you don't know anyone well, and I'm even trying to think of someone I know well

and I'm like, bro, that's a completely wrong name for you. Yeah. Like. You got to sit with it a little bit. It's a tough one to just come up with off the top of your head. I can see like Chris Crofton being like a Hank. Yeah. Chris could be a Hank.

Something like that. Just a little bit more. Chris is like soft. He needs something like a, kha, ha. You know what I mean? He's got off. hard consonant sound to it. It sounded like you were that made-up dinosaur

from Jurassic Park spitting. The Dilaphasors. I did want to ask the Zite Gang, let me know on Blue Sky or Twitter, is, like, if you live outside the United States, is your shit this broken? Like, do you, how many texts? How many scam texts are you getting a day?

How many scam calls are you getting a day? It has, like, it's picked up in the last year. Like, now it's basically, like, the expectation is, yeah, this shit's going to be a scam. Reporting from Mexico, he says no scam calls. Oh, fuck, man. That's infuriating. That is infuriated. It's just about, like, there's just the utter lack of consumer protections here that are so different.

Like, I can't even, like, in Japan, I feel like I'm thinking of it. I'm like, oh, there's always scams, you know what I mean? But, like, the ability to get touched. by a scam is just so much higher in the U.S. I think than anywhere else. It's the fucking Wild West out here. It's great.

I mean, I guess it should be... I should say hell. My bad. Which also the Wild West, kind of hell also hell. Yeah. If you read Blood Meridian. Yeah. A bit of a euphemism. It was wild, huh? It makes, I mean, that's where... This is where the scammers are coming. This is where

they're like, the getting is good. Go to the United States. People everywhere have cell phones, by the way. They're mobile. phones everywhere around the world and they're coming at us okay so well because we're the big we're the big fucking fat prize pig

that's hoovering up all the resources of the world so of course you'd look at the US and we like have the resources and the elderly are hoarding the resources but I also think we're uniquely unprotected by our government yeah yeah yeah by our loss um all right

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