The Daily Zeitgeist - Skrillex vs Mosquitoes, Bezos vs Saudi Arabia 4.2.19

Episode Date: April 2, 2019

In episode 361, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Jena Friedman to discuss April fool's jokes from different brand, Trump doubling down on his threat to close the border, allegations against Joe Biden, how Saudi Arabia hacked Jeff Bezo's phone, Skrillex protecting us from mosquitos, PewDiePie's youtube rivalry, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. It’s April Fools’ Day. Here’s 2019′s updating, depressing, and comprehensive list of pranks and hoaxes.2. Trump White House presses threat to close U.S.-Mexico border this week3. Democrats fume as Trump cuts Central American aid4. Joe Biden Scrambles to Stem Crisis After Lucy Flores’s Allegation5. Bezos Investigation Finds the Saudis Obtained His Private Data6. Dubstep artist Skrillex could protect against mosquito bites7. PewDiePie concedes defeat to YouTube rival T-Series8. WATCH: Paul White - Returning Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The podcast where we take a deep dive into American shortcomers. It's Tuesday, April 2nd, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien. Okay. Miles Gray and me tell each other news stories and we spit out those fire hot takes even though we're second rate at best. All right. To the tune of Mr. Jones.

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A.K.A. Alright Well we are thrilled To be joined In our third seat by a first-time guest, a hilarious comedian, Jenna Friedman. Hi. Hello. Hi.

Am I supposed to sing or something? You don't have to. I mean, if you have something. Do you have like an AKA that you usually use? I have no idea what you guys are talking about. Just like a name that you use when you're trying to get away with a crime or something. Amy Schumer. No, I'm just kidding.

Well, all right. We were just talking about 9-11 before we hit record on this. That's a favorite topic of yours? It's not a favorite topic. It's just a topic that always just finds its way into conversations. Yeah, yeah.

It's a fun topic to ask people about as illustrated by what's happening right now. We're having a blast talking about 9-11. All right, Jenna, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners just a couple of things we're talking about today. We're going to do a little digest of April Fool's fun April Fool's pranks that happened yesterday. We're going to talk about PewDiePie trolling his way back to number one, maybe if we have time. And then a bunch of serious shit.

You guys know how the second act works. The border shut down that Trump is threatening, dangling over our heads. Joe Biden, crazy Joe, having to answer for his questionable grasp of how to respect people's personal space, I guess would be a mild way of putting it. We're going to talk about Jeff Bezos, how he was actually hacked. The brother of the year michael sanchez story seems to be falling apart a little bit uh and we might even talk about skrillex saving the world from mosquitoes uh which has the vibe of a april fool's joke but it was not in a published study i don't know i'm still the jury's out this is this is the thing about april fool's in our current world is so much of reality is just fucking bonkers now that

it's not at all clear what is an April Fool's joke and what isn't. And also so many corporations with terrible senses of humor are trying to do pranks and don't know what a joke is. So that also makes it somewhat confusing. So anyways, we'll talk about that bizarre experience of april fools that we all had yesterday but first jenna what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are i probably like go on webmd too much okay to look at like rashes and things yeah mostly rashes yeah like if there's a rash not even on me my boyfriend had like a rash on his yeah shoulder without telling him i just like googled i was like trying to figure out what it was it's probably just like a little bit of like sun blotchiness sunburn yeah i was like maybe he

has something yeah so are you always just diagnosing other people or you also something you notice something and then you pop on web mD to try and get to the bottom that you probably have cancer, which is. I think a little bit of both. I think I misdiagnose a lot of stuff on WebMD. Yeah. All the time. Yeah. Is there like a I mean, what is the actual benefit of WebMD?

Because all everyone I know who use it, they use it to terrify themselves. Somebody needs to like do some research research and find the statistics on that. How often do people go into the doctor and they're like, I got this thing that WebMD says is cancer. And it actually catches cancer. Because I don't think that happens that often. I'm sure they would be proudly announcing that if that was the case of their website. But for me, it's just a source of terror. Yes.

But it's good for like skin cancer. Like if you have like a weird mole, like I was watching Mystic River and Sean Penn in that movie has like a mole on his neck. Right. And it's definitely like basal cell carcinoma or something. Wow. Oh, really? I went online and people were like, maybe it's a tattoo.

But I haven't like done, I didn't like dig into what sean penn's neck look like now i just hope he got it fixed but then i was like oh i did i think the last thing i did google was like sean penn cancer because i saw it i was on a flight the other night so i was like what is this did you pause it even you can see the mole if you watch mystic river the whole time the mole could have won like an oscar best supporting character right it is is so in your face on his neck. So do we get to the bottom of it? Do you think we should reach out to Sean and his people? I mean, sure.

I'm sure that movie was a few years ago. It would have gotten worse by now. But even from your search, we didn't find out, though, if that was anything to do with anything well if you google sean penn mole mystic river someone somewhere said that it was a tattoo but it was not a tattoo it was definitely what if it's like part of his character's story that like he just needed to internalize like the full story it's like oh this dude dies of skin cancer like three years later yeah he could i was thinking that i'm like that is an easter egg if i've ever right exactly such a weird but that is the sort

of easter egg you would have in mr griver like yeah a story about a bunch of middle-aged people in boston is like one of them gets skin cancer and passes away slowly and in an unremarkable way yeah um yeah man baby skin i have a one-year-old at home, and baby skin is fucking terrifying. Like, there will just be insane rashes that come up, like, for no reason, and it looks like the kid is going to disintegrate, and then it just, like, goes away. And the doctors are like, yeah, sometimes that happens. It just, like, doesn't make any sense.

I think my child has a stigmata. Right. Exactly. Yeah. So we go on WebMD a lot. Despite your wife being a doctor? Despite her being a doctor. What does she think of going on WebMD?

She does it. So I guess she's. She has the medical or scientific literacy to not just go into it I mean she does it like at work like that's how she diagnosed no what are your symptoms hold on oh shit you know like this no no actually I think I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who goes on WebMD and then I suggest things and then she goes into some probably better version of WebMD that she has and finds out the real answer. And it's usually you shouldn't worry about it, but you're going to anyways.

It's her years of medical training. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Well, overrated first? Underrated first? Yeah, let's do overrated. I would say soy milk. Overrated.

Overrated because it's really not good for you. Okay. It's like it has like weird i don't know what like hormones or something in it it's just not it's actually not healthy for you but what if i am a soy boy like a self-professed soy boy and you know if you need that to survive then i guess it's better than the alternative i rely on it to raise my estrogen levels and lower my T count. See, I told you, man. You got to get off that InfoWars, man. Right.

Yeah. Got you all fucked up. Yeah, and then underrated, I would say breast milk because- Wow. Yeah, I'm going to go there. It cures eye infections. There was actually a company, I think Medilac, that got it. I forget which company, but they got in trouble for trying to harvest it from low-income women in Detroit.

There was a whole story about this a couple years ago. That's fucked up. And it has all these weird – I'm going to gag if I think about it too much, but it has all of these weird cures. And it's just a very valuable resource right under our noses. Yeah. Directly under our noses, if you're me, because I take a nice glass of that every morning. It was clearing up an eye infection?

It's insane. Like they wanted to use it or synthesize it for an eye job? If you put breast milk on a wound, it'll heal faster. It's like really and there's a whole black market economy for breast milk. People buy breast milk online because they're trying to give their kids breast milk. It's also milk online because they're trying to give their kids breast milk.

It's also like super sketchy because it has like if it, you know, it could have whatever. I'm going to gag. It could have like whatever. Yeah. It's not fully. STDs in it or something if you have those. Yeah, because there's no like pasteurization process with it. Right.

Wow. Ultra pasteurized breast milk. His face is contorting. But it is a very, you know But it is a very valuable commodity, and companies like Nestle got in trouble for trying to discourage women. Someone who can't breastfeed, but for those who can. In other countries, yeah. They basically made the claim and marketed their formula product as though it was the healthier alternative to breast milk. Which is so insidious and evil. Well, they did that to America in the 80s

because I was raised on formula because they had convinced everybody that formula was better for you. Like up until recently, I wasn't drinking breast milk. Did you get sick a lot? Yeah. I had allergies.

Okay. Yeah. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Well, also a medical thing. All right. There's a whole thing about like you're supposed to take the full dose of antibiotics, but that kind of antibiotics are really intense and they fuck with your gut bacteria. And I was sick from traveling. I got really sick. And I had a doctor that I was talking to because I have a couple of doctors on speed dial. But so I made sure that I wasn't doing this irresponsibly.

But I took like half a dose of Cipro. And then the next day, I took half a dose of it. And then another half a dose that day because you're supposed to do like a week, whatever. I micro-dosed Cipro. And it really worked. And the bug was out of my body within like 72 hours. Yeah. And did you talk to the doctor and they were like, yeah, if that works for you. Yeah, I was like, is it okay if I do it this way?

And he was like, yeah. Because you weren't just going off like some Twitter thread you saw. No. You were just kind of like, wait, let me make sure. But I do know friends who've like taken antibiotics and gotten sick from the antibiotics because they just like. It kills a lot of. It kills a lot of your gut bacteria.

And so I don't like to take antibiotics if I don't have to, but I was in Mexico with my boyfriend. We actually fell in love this way because we both got really, really sick because we were careful to not drink the water, and then by day three we were having tequila on ice. Right, right. Just being totally stupid. Drinking from a hose.

Drinking from a hose, right. Drinking from a hose. Right. We were so dumb and had so much fun, but we got really, really sick. And then we were sharing one bathroom. So I think that's how we fell out. Wow, yeah.

One bathroom, hotel, oof. It was a little Airbnb, yeah. But with one bathroom, damn. Yeah, but we, I also, because as you can tell a little bit, I'm like kind of paranoid, but I travel with Cipro whenever I can or like an antibiotic. I never use it, but I just travel with it. And so after like two days of just like not being able to leave the bathroom, I was like, okay, let's try this. And it like knocked, it was amazing. It was like a real testament to the power of modern medicine that we were so sick.

And within like really just like maybe a day and a half, it was like we were fine. It was crazy. I think that's also a cool lesson that you like had a thought about like your own body and what it needed. And you talked to your doctor about it and they were like, yeah, sure. Even though it's like not necessarily a thing that's on the bottle it's like doctors treat the patient the individual they're not just like going off of yeah and i'm not like an anti-vaxxer and my dad's a doctor so i've been around you know yeah like that kind of person yeah no i think that's you're you're not recommending i'm not recommending just like listening that you eat grapefruits instead of antibiotics you're saying

like maybe mess with the dosing and talk to your doctor about it which seems in terms of things that have been said on this podcast

relatively uncontroversial look you consulted a doctor yeah exactly that's step one step one step one are you scientifically

medically literate no step two go to a doctor but that is great antibiotics are like very tightly regulated now because of the Step one. Step one, are you scientifically, medically literate? No. Step two, go to a doctor. But that is crazy. Antibiotics are very tightly regulated now because of the evolution of the super bug and the concerns over that, which it should be. But my wife, the number one thing that people come to her for, like a drug, is like,

hey, man, let me get some of that antibiotics. Let me get some of that Cipro. Oh, because they're just trying to knock it out. Let me get a Z-Pak, baby. Wow. All right, guys, let's get into April Fool's jokes, huh? The best time of the year for those of us in comedy, right? I don't.

Isn't it a blast? Jesus Christ, you sound like a manic ad guy. I'm not even aware of what's happening today with April Fool's. Oh, holy shit, Miles. You want to just go micro machine man on this shit? So, you know, the Washington Post was throughout the day just going, here's an updating list of all the April Fool's things that are happening. And by the time I got to the 30th thing, I was like, why are we doing this?

So, for example, DJ Khaled isn't TikTok's new chief motivational officer. What? Spotify turned its Discover Weekly custom playlist into Disco Cover Weekly, a playlist DJ Khaled isn't TikTok's new chief motivational officer. What? Spotify turned its Discover Weekly custom playlist into Disco Cover Weekly, a playlist of disco covers. Let's see. Shutterstock isn't opening a brick and mortar library for stock images. Roku isn't introducing a remote for dogs. Let's see.

Halo Top isn't launching an edible ice cream face mask. Yeah, I get it. It's just all like. Well, can I say one side note about disco? Because I just watched the Studio 54 documentary on the plane. I didn't realize like how transgressive and cool disco's origins were. And that the backlash to disco is kind of like what's going on now with like Trumpism. Like the backlash to disco was like Midwestern people getting like angry at like kind of like tolerant, inclusive, like LGBTQ friendly lifestyle.

The most famous anti-disco event was like the disco record burning at like an Indians game. Or like I think it was in Chicago. Oh, was it the Cubs? Yeah. That's right. But I didn't realize like the symbolism. So I'm like, I think we actually have to bring disco back

and not have it be a punchline. I'm not a hater on disco at all especially like when you think about people who listen like Justice or Daft Punk

you're like you're listening to sped up disco samples my man. They're not really doing much. That gets at a good point that the sort of sensibility of all these pranks is you know

they're trying to reach the largest possible audience so it's all like pranks as conceived by like the Jay Leno ish. I mean, there's all kinds of weird stuff. There is a Lockheed Martin. There's, they said they had a perfume that smells like outer space.

Tinder was introducing a height verification badge. Let's see. There was a Mr. Avo head. That's actually a good idea. Right. The height verification. Some of these are good ideas. rival Mr. Dimmahead. That's actually a good idea. Right, the height verification. Some of these are good ideas.

They should do that. Like that's, I think just come up with a good idea that like you can't necessarily get off the ground, but you would if you could. And like those are,

those, at least they prove that the brand is like interesting or like has like, is in touch with them. Whereas like the Halo top thing, like edible ice cream mask is just fucking stupid.

Or like STD verification would be cool. Right. Right. And they're like, nah, just kidding. Yeah. And then what else?

Someone said there was like a mineral water popsicle. Like it was just really just lame shit. Ice, yeah. And one thing that, just ice, but on a stick. So it felt like a full on

you know dessert then there was a weed flavored cottage cheese anyway it just got gross

I'm just like what are we doing and then what I'm surprised wasn't on here was Elon Musk over the weekend was like

became a SoundCloud rapper and no one is treating this like an April Fool's joke is that a joke well

according to him he's like this is a new thing i'm trying out emo g records um and the song he dropped is called r.i.p harambe um and it's like so it's like of the moment it's like yeah clearly up yeah he just got that shit what is it what was harambe like 2016 or some shit yeah the annoying thing is the song is has like a really catchy hook so like he played it for us and like it immediately got in my head so which isn't surprising because he's like super rich and he also like has grinds yeah he also like can like probably data mine

whatever is in your head right yeah yeah yeah that's true he's like i have i've yeah using machine learning i've already created the i know-up. I know who you are. Yeah. And another thing, someone said that there is going to be a pasta air freshener, which I thought,

again, on its face, like, you got to do better. Like, the point is to fool us. Jagermeister making bongs now is like, I don't, what? Yeah. Who gives a shit?

Again. What are you talking about? They're pivoting, baby. But it makes sense because a lot of alcohol companies are trying to be like, I think weed is the next wave we're going to have to worry about.

CBD alcohol. Right. Guys, Timex is launching a watch with a new 25th hour on it. How did they come up with this? And not just that movie. I mean, come on. Timex.

Not the Spike Lee movie. Yeah. Which is a great movie, by the way. And underrated. And about our topic. Yeah, 9-11. All right, let's bring it back to 9-11, guys. Where was everybody? Seriously, where was everybody on those flights?

I was so young, I don't remember it. I was working for the Pentagon at the time, actually. So I'm very old. All right. Well, fuck April Fool's. Yeah, just blanket fuck April Fool's. Just blanket fuck April Fool's. Blanket fuck April Fool's.

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I mean, before, you know, Trump was telling Mexico, he'd be like, you have to end illegal immigration. As if somehow Mexico was responsible for the surge of families seeking asylum at the southern border. And now it's turned into just threats of full stop just shutting down the border. How will we get out, though? How do we? Like, if we want to get out. Oh, you have to fly. Yeah.

That's true. Like, you know, that's the only way. Yeah, I can't go through that tunnel I usually go through. Yeah, right. Underneath that abandoned Burger King. Right. But yeah, so the whole thing was just sort of like, Mexico, you deal with it. Now it's turning into just shut it down.

And when you really look at it, I mean, every move has been to only exacerbate this issue at the border. I mean, over the weekend announced that he was cutting aid, like hundreds of millions of dollars of aid to El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras. The primary places where people are coming from. And so only exacerbating the problems there, which would probably catalyze this movement north. So now it's this border talk of getting tough. And the thing that every like a con, all these people are just like, there's no way he would do that. That's it's a huge trade partner or whatever. I don't know what exactly how serious

this threat is. But I mean, when you just think about it, like Mexico is America's third largest trading partner. And that's like like one.6 billion a day worth of trade goes across that border every day. We would run out of avocados in three weeks. Right. For millennials who don't give a fuck about this kind of shit, think about your avocados, because that's true. It would hurt the avocado economy. And I think just when you look at just sort of all the widespread consequences and things, this's just, this isn't just a U.S.-Mexico thing because it's also a huge like global economy trade point. And there's like a thousand trucks pass through the border every day. There's like 11 international trains that go through Laredo, I believe. So this is again- Kind of like Brexit light.

Yeah, right. And just like a shitty way that would only just affect the economy, would affect employers, would affect jobs. And I'm sure that's just a way to basically say, oh, let's create a bottleneck in trade here. We can blame the knock on effects on immigrants. And maybe I don't know. I don't know if he's trying to do this to like ramp his base up more. But it's just a really odd move, considering that there's really no benefit to this aside from like just really bad economic effects i'm starting to think he might not be our guy right i know well we are a trump podcast here the daily zeitgeist uh brought to you by coke industries yes oh should we talk about that

just later guys that was a fucking mistake there's no fucking way the coke industry sponsors this fucking show we just lost track of things because i mean they they offered us so much money miles right uh took a helicopter to work today uh it was actually a jet oh my bad uh but yeah so anyway like when you go on i think you know a lot of this posturing is just sort of you know has a lot of people talking about what the solutions are especially among presidential candidates that's where like beto o'Rourke was sort of saying, like, we need to actually help these countries and try and start stabilizing these places first. So we don't have people who are trying to seek asylum here first, because I think there was a few articles about saying like Beto was sort of, you know, I guess, posturing himself or placing himself strategically to answer Trump's sort of anti-immigrant stance

because his policies now have people saying, well, we need a path to citizenship. We need all these other things, which just sort of, I guess, bolsters Trump's argument that these people are here because these Democrats just want to let people in willy-nilly. And that's sort of like their, I guess, the platform they're using. Whereas Beto is also saying that we obviously have to be humane with people who are actually seeking asylum and fleeing violence. But at the same time, we can't just cut aid off to these places and expect things to not improve. What is he standing on top of when he says that? Because it has to be something tall so that a lot of people... I think it was a stage actually this time. Oh, okay, good. Traditional... Yeah yeah those are great for that i've always found standing on stages to be great way to reach the

people yeah i mean it seems like uh saying this isn't a serious idea doesn't matter he's not a serious person the president and it just seems like in the current media environment where like it's not functional enough for people to actually get the full picture that he is creating the problem that is happening at the border. And so it seemed like from his perspective, it seems like a perfectly rational thing to do is create a terrifying war zone on the border because that gives him he's been acting like and using feeds off of chaos and it helps him right using just those talking points as if there is a crisis at the border so by creating one he gets to be the guy who's tough on border stuff like you know heading into the 2020 election so i don't i don't think anybody should doubt that he's going to do the most reprehensible thing possible in this case. Yeah, I don't understand why we're even still listening to him.

Like, I know that he is quote-unquote president, but I just think that he's lost any credibility with the American people and is just kind of white noise at this point and just, like, ignore him and try to focus on policy and getting a Democrat in the White House. Yeah, you'd hope so. He is the first president with a functioning propaganda wing. So it's scary. I feel like the second you stop paying attention to him, the more Fox just gets to kind of take over and control the messaging around everything he does, which Fox is fully a part of the Trump administration at this point.

So, yeah, it's I mean, no good answer. Well, I think at the very least, this only, you know, I get the thing where I think to people who aren't supporters of Trump, they go, this is absolutely ridiculous. Like, this makes no sense. I think the people who are motivated to vote against him don't need this to add this to it. Yeah. But I don't know. I guess this is a play to his base just because, like you're saying, he's the tough guy who would potentially damage the economy to, you know, solve some fake crisis that he created. Yeah.

All right, guys. damage the economy to solve some fake crisis that he created. Yeah. All right, guys, let's talk about the Democrats running for president in 2020, or at least rumored to be about to run. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't say I was running. Just said that if I were running. If I were running. Here's my book.

Crazy Joe Biden, as the president calls him, is now having to answer for his not great grasp on the concept of invading people's personal space. The specific complaint is from Lucy Flores, who is a Nevada state or was a former state assemblywoman. There's also photographic evidence. Where she's basically saying. I know it's hard to believe women. No, no, not at all. I think every Joe Biden photo has some creepy shit. Right. Yeah. There's one I was showing Jack like a while back of like him with these two bikers.

And he has like a woman on his lap. And it looks like he is like in the process of courting this woman away from her husband or partner in this thing right anyway uh in this instance his whole body like his whole interaction with any woman he's around like has the vibe of a clingy middle school boyfriend like it's just like his head is in their neck and it's just like too too much yeah so i guess in this in her run for lieutenant governor you know she said that he had like given her like a kiss on the cheek or something. She wanted to be clear that she said it wasn't any sort of in the territory of a sexual assault or anything, but clearly felt like a violation of her personal space. I mean, if we can like the larger issue is less even just like the physicality of what they're doing, but it's like kind of seeing women as people versus not seeing women as people and how does that I mean I think that Joe Biden you know has matured and has enough really smart people around him that it wouldn't be as much of an issue but like if you kind of look at like his how he acted

during the Anita Hill hearings and like yes just kind of I mean like it's funny because I think the top three contenders it looks like are, are like going to be like Bernie Biden and, you know, maybe Beto or at least Trump, like, you know, on the Republican side. And it's like, these are men. Like, I mean, take Beto out of it. But it's like you're literally like we think we're the whole country is Democrat, Republican, independent, like all captivated by like men over 75. Right. And it's just, it's a bummer. Like I just did shows in Seattle

and people were so obsessed with Bernie, but they didn't even know who Elizabeth Warren is. And it just like blows my mind that she doesn't have, because she's not, I guess, as exciting to them as a man who's like about to die. It's, and that's not a threat. That's just how time works. you know,

people aren't as like captivated. And I think I love that there are so many women running. Cause it's like, you know, how many times can you use the word shrill and have us not see a pattern? Like, I think it's helpful that all, all the women are running.

Right. Um, but at the same time, like I'm not, I feel like it's going to be like Bernie versus Trump and I will totally vote for Bernie over Trump. But it just feels like it's really and like, you know, I don't know, I'm too opinionated about this, but like Beto's cool. I just feel like there are he just doesn't really bring anything new to the table. And I and I would like to see him run maybe next election. Yeah. And I think that's why a lot of people are at

least for me, I'm desperate to see all these people on the debate stage because that's when we're going to start to at least hopefully people can begin to notice other people aside from like, what are the two brands you're most familiar with? Because I think that's what a lot of the polling is just like the familiarity is what's boosting a lot of the polling numbers when I feel like really good ideas are coming out of these other candidates. Even like debates just feel like somewhat moot over just looking at someone's track record and what they've done. Look at their resume. Look at Elizabeth Warren's resume. For sure. For sure. And I guess I mean, I mean, to speak to like the general population that isn't as into the nuances of like political candidacies work and things like that, where like they need

like, did you see that viral moment from the Twitter thing where like Elizabeth Warren owned Bernie on the stage? And that's like, sadly sadly, that's a lot of the currency people are dealing with. It's true, though, but it's basically like America picking an actor over a director to run our country. Do you know what I mean? It's the same thing. It's like, why showmanship or whatever? Why is that such a determining factor

in who we think should be a good leader? And I think we have to have a discussion on, and I know we talked, I remember Louis had a joke about like wanting like a pilot like the type of pilot you want to run your plane to be somebody who's like flown a plane before right I think that really is like a good analogy of like the type of person that like our priorities as a country are misaligned and that's a conversation I think we should be having that we're not really having right do you think that think that most, I guess like, I mean, I totally agree with that. I just like, I think the hard part is how do we get people who are just so disengaged or apathetic to like sort of find the meaning in that?

I mean, yeah, no, like half of our country doesn't. Well, that's why, I mean, that's a whole much longer conversation, but it's like, that's why we have to like invest in education and civics education and get people to vote. It'll be interesting to see how many people vote in this election because it's what, 50% of our country doesn't vote? Of the voting population doesn't vote? Yeah, it's pretty low. And a lot of them, though, are disenfranchised and it's hard for people to vote. And I think that's a conversation that we didn't have in the last election that we're having now.

But yeah, I mean, I think we're so fucked. we're having now but yeah i mean i think we're we're so fucked yeah also when you look like now the gop's scrambling to like try and purge voter rolls still you know like florida is still trying to take back those voting rights that were reinstated to felons in the state i'd say that that is going to be the very last thing that like before the gop the republican party like shrivels up and dies in hopefully 20 years, but probably more likely with 500 years, like the very last thing they will be holding onto is voter suppression. Cause that's basically all they are is their whole ideology at this point is white men should run things.

White men should make the decisions or like people who are, you know, have means, uh, you know, and and that's that's their way of doing that and when you yes when you look at statistically like demographically by 2020 you can have like the brown vote versus the just traditional white american vote is going to be i think it's going to eclipse them so they're looking at a map and they're looking at an evolving country like okay so we can only win if we cheat.

Right. Yeah, it's been like that. Yeah. Right. I mean, look at 2000. Look at those elections. And I agree. The the complaints you hear about Elizabeth Warren are all like I haven't heard a non-sexist criticism of Elizabeth Warren yet. yet it's all like just superficial shit that unfortunately like i don't i don't know that uh the debate stage is going to fix that because it is such superficial bullshit that people are objecting to but yeah i mean if you just look at the like the person who has the most completely thought out and thoroughly like you can tell they've been thinking about being president like in the country and how to run the country for you know years and years and years like elizabeth warren is your candidate but people fucking are like yeah but she's not electable or she's like so annoying or she doesn't seem genuine and it's all just the shit that's like in the gray area

that I don't know. I just feel like she could really unite like both factions of the Democratic Party. But there's this thing that's happening that happened in the last election that I feel like we're not, we don't take seriously, but just the way and how effective like online campaigns are at like radicalizing people

with like the bots and the trolls. And you can see it and you can feel it like i remember when bernie first announced that he was gonna maybe run i just like tweeted like bernie should run as a republican and like fuck that party this time and the amount of hate that i got online it was definitely like a coordinated attack like you could it was like thousands of people some were real some were fake i thought that they were all fake but then like I kind of like I didn't dox one guy but I just like looked into him and had friends look into him without giving away his name and somebody was like this is a real guy and that was even scarier to just know that like that real

people now are are being radicalized online and I think we still don't take it as seriously but if you go on Facebook or Twitter like I think we need to all just realize, like, how those platforms in their current iteration are really harmful to democracy and kind of talk to people offline. And yeah, I mean, that's kind of the next part of the, you know, going back to the Biden thing, a lot of people are then coming out and saying, well, this is just cynical bullshit. You know, these are Democrats tearing each other down. And this probably was like, Miles, your first reaction to this news story was like, I wonder

which Democratic campaign is like sort of pushing this forward. Because there's been stuff come out of Beto and like Pete Buttigieg. It's like, and not to say that her story isn't sincere or credible or that this is a thing worth talking about. But like you can start seeing the political trickery that's starting to happen because it's like oh he still even hasn't announced but like let's give him something that he has to talk about and right but again even if he was going to run he was going to have to answer this was going to happen like you said there's there's a shortage of pictures where he's not doing this not a shortage

of pictures where he is doing or even this or just other things, you know, like especially when we were talking about how the rumors were like Stacey Abrams could be his running mate. And she was out here very specifically being like, I don't like the way he like I didn't like the way the Anita Hill hearings went. Right. And we knew it's like those are the kinds of things that I'm sure probably most likely come out on a debate stage or something or when they're interacting where another candidate can be like, well, do you remember, do you recall you're like you were you were out here standing for like mass incarceration and these other things. Meanwhile, Trump has been accused of rape twice and sexual assault and harassment over 17 times. Right.

But I do think like. So it's like we have to try to. It's very hard with just the natural, like, I guess, progressive inclination to kind of be in the weeds and be thoughtful versus the other side. It's like – I forget the quote, but it's like how fascists get in line, whereas like – or like, you know, liberal and progressive people are thoughtful. And so it's harder to form consensus. are thoughtful. And so it's harder to form consensus. So it's like when you have those natural personality types, and then you also have like foreign, you know, and, and Republican forces pushing us further apart. It's like, it's a lot, it's going to be really hard for us all to coalesce around somebody who's just not Trump. Right? Yeah. And I think, I think hopefully

everyone is at the end of the day being like, okay, whatever it shakes out to be, whoever the nominee is, can we just agree that that's the person we're going to. And I want and I want to believe we can. But then I and like why I was so sad that Bernie was running and I could get trolled for this. I get trolled every time I talk about him is because like I felt like 2016, I just wanted to move that behind us. And he has like he's such like a divisive character. And like just seeing how 2016 shook out, I don't know if we can all coalesce around one person. Right. Yeah, we'll see. Hopefully, I mean, that's where-

No, but I agree with you. Right, right, right. Yeah. I mean, that's, and I think that's everyone's sort of existential fear going into it. Whether it's somebody like, or some buddies, like a whole army of people freaking out because you raised a question about Bernie or, you know, whether it's people being like, stop tearing Joe Biden down.

Like we can't attack each other. Like this is the process. Like people like the primary process is built so that you put a bunch of candidates on a stage or on a cafeteria table, in Beto's case, and you put them up there and then the strongest candidate makes it out. I don't know if the strongest candidate makes it out. Or the candidate who is – I don't know. I guess the candidate who makes it out makes it out, but it's the best system that we have like i don't i don't understand the idea that it's unfair to like do electoral politics right these elected politicians who are trying to like get elected to office like get your antibodies up like this is what this is part of the process and somebody was going to point out that this dude is handsy as fuck and might have some outdated notions about women. But even then, just even before all of that,

he was a bad choice just based on his track record and his age and where the momentum is with younger people who really need to be voting and participating because all this shit is going to fall on us by the time we're middle-aged. Yeah, if you're going to be who like really need to be voting and participating because all this shit it's like we're gonna all this shit's gonna fall on us by the time we're if you're gonna be dead in 10 years like you shouldn't be able to vote i'm sorry yeah right for real you shouldn't be able to vote like to pollute our planet if you're not going to be on it yeah that's why i say just register the climate change deniers put them on a list now so we know when the earth gets fucked up they can can live in the cursed earth. That's right.

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Now girlfriend, former mistress, Lauren Sanchez's brother, Michael Sanchez, which was weird. And we were just like, oh, people are weird. We were like, what? This doesn't make sense. He was like, yeah, I got $200,000 to steal my sister's text messages and intimate photos of her and Jeff Bezos in exchange for softer coverage when the inquirer exposes the affair. And it was like,

you know, I actually did it to protect my sister. Right. So he was really trying to paint himself as the brother of the year, and that just didn't make sense. But it didn't even, like, the logic of, like, how it was making sense to him didn't make sense. It was like, wait, I don't even fully understand what

you're saying your thought process was. Yeah. And when Bezos came out with, what was that post on Medium when he was just saying, before I'm outed, let me just tell you about what's been going on. And the National Enquirer has been trying to extort me. Here are my emails. And there was a lot of talk about specifically, am I demanding that Jeff Bezos says this had nothing to do with outside pressure? AMI demanding that Jeff Bezos says this had nothing to do with like outside pressure. And then like they even named Saudi Arabia. So he has a man who works for him named Gavin DeBecker, who is a security expert and consulted with the government since like the Reagan years.

Like pretty credible guy and said, hey, can you look into this? Because I have a feeling because I own The Washington Post and Jamal Khashoggi was killed and we just didn't stop talking about this and putting Saudi Arabia and Mohammed bin Salman under a microscope that I have a feeling this has something to do with that. Just a hunch. And considering the friendship between AMI and Mohammed bin Salman, it just all seems maybe there's something there. Well, now Gavin DeBecker in the Daily Beast has a piece where just basically saying, yeah, I have experts. We investigated it and all fingers are pointing at Saudi Arabia as the source of the hacked material. Yeah. And this is a quote from him.

He said, our investigators and several experts concluded with high confidence that the Saudis had access to Bezos' phone and gained private information. As of today, it's unclear to what degree, if any, AMI was aware of the details. So at the time, I know there were some people saying that even before the Enquirer spoke with Michael Sanchez, that they had already seen these text messages. And then maybe that Michael Sanchez is being used as just a smokescreen because really these were, this is hacked material from foreign government. He goes on saying, it was very unusual how hard ami people work to publicly reveal their sources identity first through strong hints they gave to me and later through direct statements

am i practically pinned a quote kick me sign on michael sanchez it was not the white house it was not saudi arabia a company lawyer said on national television before telling us more, it was a person that was known to both Bezos and Ms. Sanchez. So yeah, we'll see what happens. It seems like the only version of events that has yet made sense to me would be that AMI got the hacked information from Bezos' phone from Saudi officials who were pissed that the Washington Post was reporting on the fact that they murdered somebody in broad daylight in cold blood. And then because AMI knew that people were going to start asking who their sources were

of this clearly hacked information, they then went about finding somebody who they could use as like their beard for. Their stooge. Right. Their stooge for doing this and like just name a price for this person to be like, yeah, I did it. It was me. Yeah.

That's the only version that's made sense to me because Michael Sanchez saying that he did it to protect his sister and Jeff Bezos in some way. And their families. Right. Doesn't make sense. I mean, him doing it for $200,000, I guess, makes some sense. And then just coming up with a bullshit explanation. But this makes a whole lot more sense to me. Could he, I mean, he has all the money in the world

and they have like Amazon at his fingertips. Could he have just like sent her a picture via mail or something? That's a good question. Like primed it. Right, yeah. And like, I don't know, is this victim blaming? Like if, okay, this may be as victim blaming and maybe we edit it out, but it's like,

you send a picture of your dick and you're like a man in your 50s and you're like the richest man in the world. Like you want people to see your dick, right? I guess it depends. Yeah, how much dick confidence he has. Well, I think a lot. If you don't want people to see your dick, you're just not going to send a picture of your dick. Right, right, right. That's true.

Yeah, I can't do it. Is that an option? You can't send a picture? No. You can't not send a picture? I'm too private. Oh, okay. Yeah, I can't do it. Is that an option? You can't send a picture? No. You can't not send a picture? I'm too private. Oh, okay. Yeah, I've never sent one.

And the Bible has shamed me about feeling naked. It does seem like there is a portion of the population for whom not sending dick pics is not an option. And I've not fully understood how those people's minds work. Because it's like diet flashing? I guess. But is it just because there's been people who were walking around naked underneath trench coats for ages, but it was 0.1% of the population. It wasn't everyone.

And now it seems like everyone sends dick pics. Or because we're so digitally- Like billionaires. Right. It's like impulse control disorder disorder which makes them really good at business also maybe makes them really yeah good at sexting or something yeah it's just i think or i don't know or like if some people who in their minds are so horny like then this is how i'm gonna act this out like i have a picture of my penis i want to see a picture of you because I cannot talk to someone in real. I don't know.

I couldn't quite wrap my head around the urge to be like, this is gratifying to me to send this photo of a penis to you. Right. I mean, it's a sort of like digital act of, yeah, I guess it's like transgressive. I don't want to blame him, but you would just think like we all, I always think like, you know, I could get hacked at any moment and I will never get like transgressive I don't want to blame him but you would just think like we all I always think like you know I could get hacked

at any moment and I'll never get like nobody fucking cares but Bezos is like the richest man in the world so like wouldn't he just think about that kind of stuff

you would think so yeah and just send a nice tasteful pillow with his penis printed on it oh wow or a dick pen and ink

or like a daguerreotype yeah yeah like an oil pen he's got that wow. Or a dick pen and ink. Or like a daguerreotype even. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, like an oil paint. He's got that ability. Well, yeah. A dick oil paint is a real power move. He could commission

like Damien Hirst to do like a model of his dick and send it to her. He could do like eight hours in front of like a person in front of a diesel. A Jeff Koons balloon.

Yeah, yeah. He could do a Jeff Koons chrome dick. Yeah. Wow, that would, hmm. That's the new flex for billionaires.

It's like actually commissioned phallic art. More thoughtful dick pics. Like a $10 million. Tom Sachs moon landing dick scene or something like that. More elaborate. Anyway. But yeah, so we'll see what happens. Annie Leibovitz.

Yeah. Yeah, it'll be on the cover of Vogue. But Gavin DeBecker, he has now passed all this information on to the feds. It looks like a foreign government is harassing one of our citizens and stealing their private information. In order to get them to stop telling the truth. Will Mike Pompeo do anything? Probably not. Will Jared Kushner look at his buddy differently?

Probably not. Jared Kushner should be in jail. Whoa. Hey. Why? You leave Jared alone. What'd he do? Now we may have some criticisms of Trump. He just should be indicted already, you know?

Jared is a good man who speaks like a Muppet and nobody has ever... And uses the might of military force to coerce people to give him money for buildings he's underwater on. And talk to Rupert Murdoch every day on the phone. That is terrifying. You know, like 666 Fifth Avenue makes me feel like we're in a simulation.

Right, right. It's like two on the nose. It's like, how? It's just, yeah, symbolism bleeding through the matrix in some weird way. Well, speaking of things that seem like I had a weird dream where this happened, Skrillex is going to save us from mosquitoes? I know. When you say it out loud, it sounds like an April Fool's prank.

But there was a study, and I found this in the BBC, and if the BBC is fucking around, oh my God, I'll be so betrayed. But they said there's a study that was just released uh where scientists were using music to try and see like how mosquitoes respond to that because sound is like a crucial factor in the life cycle of mosquitoes and so they specifically chose a Skrillex track because it has a mixture of like high and low frequencies so they could kind of see the effects. And when they were blasting it at like their group of the Skrillex mosquitoes versus their control group, they found that there were like very much actual effects. So first, for instance, or just as a, you know,

a base, a foundation for us to talk about this. In insects, low frequency vibrations facilitate sexual interactions, whereas just noise disrupts the perception of signals from conspecifics, which are members of the same species and hosts. Okay, so when they played the music, they found that female adult mosquitoes were, quote, entertained by the track and attacked hosts later and less often than those in the controlled dubstep-free environment. And then they also found that the occurrence of blood feeding activity was lower when music was being played and that the mosquitoes exposed to the song had sex, quote, far less often

than mosquitoes without the music. I thought you said they were aroused by the music. No, some music. But I think just because whatever was in this Skrillex track, there was something in there that was definitely affecting that part. That's funny. And it's like low frequency music, so it's like low frequency music.

So it's like Barry White shit gets mosquitoes in the mood. Like if you played like Van Morrison. Yeah, right. I don't know. We'll see. The whole thing was just saying that they're trying to figure out what it is about this and try and see if there is some kind of like music-based personal protection. Because I get bit all the fucking time.

I'm like one of those people who you want me around when there's mosquitoes because they will just tear me up while everyone else is enjoying their time. Yeah. So if I have to walk around with a like a Beats pill on my neck, just blasting Skrillex all day, I'll be that guy. Yeah. So there's not a there's not a version of skrillex that only mosquitoes can hear that humans can't no no mosquitoes and women women hear it like higher frequency right i was gonna say

when it said that the mosquitoes exposed to the song had quote far less often than mosquitoes without the music i'm like yeah it's kind of like dubstep fans right so yeah yeah i'm taking shots in there oh dj danil. You know about the dubstep. But, you know, look, I welcome every and every kind of solution to the scourge of mosquitoes. And especially for them, they're like looking at ones specifically that were spreading yellow fever. So they're doing the Lord's work.

And they're coming to Los Angeles now. Mosquitoes. That was one of my favorite things about LA is it's warm weather without a lot of mosquitoes because it's so dry. It's a desert, but that is apparently all over this summer. It's going to feel like Florida. Really?

Yeah. No. They're coming for us. Why? Just because it was so warm? Just because of the changing weather. Global warming? Yeah.

Global climate change. Mosquito-borne illnesses are a really big problem going forward yeah one quick thing Zika was scary right sorry yeah no no for sure

Zika was still happening yeah yeah so I guess we're gonna have to walk around these Skrillex necklaces yeah just be like some

wacky one quick thing like a little sidebar about this story is this is the second story I've heard from thec in the last week that

sounds like garbage news like the sort of shit you would see on like aol.com or something like that because there was also one i heard quoted on another podcast about momo where they were talking about the momo challenge like it was this real thing that was just like taking out swaths of the population. Right. And so I don't know, let's keep an eye on BBC. Maybe they've like,

there was a period where Forbes all of a sudden started like using open source reporting and people for like a couple months were like, well, Forbes said it. And it was like, Oh no, that's like Forbes' forum-driven derived journalism outlet that hasn't been checked at all.

I mean, I think maybe what they do is they just have it like they have their more things that serve the clickbait world to try and get your interactions because that's the game these days. But I don't feel like they're going to compromise themselves like Time Magazine or Newsweek has where they're just doing old stories stories from like just like indian tabloids yeah about people like coming back to life and shit uh so time people in the uk like there was a weird momo thing that like went viral and parents were like thinking that it was gonna cause their kids to try to kill themselves or something like actually like took off i think in London or something. Oh really? Yeah, much more than the US.

Or like at least the fear of it was much more pronounced where people here were like, really this? Okay. But I look, I need this to be true. Yeah.

So please don't introduce doubt into my mind because You're just looking for an excuse to start wearing that Skrillex pill necklace that you've been walking around with around the office. Yeah, and this t-shirt. Hopefully all my Skrillex t- that you've been walking around with around the office. Yeah, and this t-shirt.

Hopefully all my Skrillex t-shirts will also keep the mosquitoes away. I love Momo, too. I think she's, like, such an icon. Oh, wow. I'd love to see more of her outfit. Yeah, really. Do you think about getting it tatted? Sure, yeah.

No, I don't actually want tattoos. No tattoos. I've always wanted to be buried in a Jewish cemetery. But, yeah, like a temporary Momo tattoo, tattoo for sure on my face, of course. Oh, wow. Damn. On my face. Let's talk about PewDiePie real quick because there's – so this is something that just keeps popping up in the news that I just am so fascinated by guys. No. So PewDiePie has launched a viral campaign where he is fake competing with this giant Indian corporation called T something.

T-Series? T-Series, where they like this is a giant Indian corporation that publishes all Bollywood movie trailers and all like Bollywood music videos and it's just enormous and they overtook PewDiePie and like didn't even know who PewDiePie was and then he launched this big thing being like you guys have to like keep me like acting like they had a rivalry it was like a fun troll i guess like it's he's just you know trolling a giant corporation in india who doesn't know who he is but then like it took off and um you know people were hacking printers so they would print out like uh subscribe to pewdiepie like a thousand times and you know a lot of people took it way too seriously, which is what you would expect from a lot of his fan base.

And he recently retook the number one spot for most subscribers with 92.3 million YouTube subscribers by launching a video where he congratulated T-Series on defeating him and basically admitted defeat. So he's good at this sort of internet troll edgelord jujitsu. Fuck this guy. Yeah, no, he's not great. I'm not saying he's cool.

I don't even want to give this motherfucker air. Okay. I don't understand it, what draws people to him. Well, he's just a very popular youtuber but he he does this dumb shit where he he flirts with like white supremacy and like just trying to be edgy and people you know you can say oh well he's just joking or whatever this is all part of i'm just like don't have the appetite to even acknowledge or discuss it personally yeah um but you know he's got fucking fans. People like some people like him. I think he's just fucking whack. And yeah. Yeah. It is a type of Internet edginess that like seems to have become fashionable with younger people.

And like more recently where like being a fake white supremacist is like considered funny even though that started in like what 2014-15 huh and they earlier yeah i think it's people out trying to like out people who are not like edge lords trying to be like yo this is this is funny i dressed as a nazi but then the problem is that there's like this is the exact wrong time to be making that joke because a lot of nazis are on board to the point that pewdiepie was mentioned i think in the manifesto of the new zealand i think before the live stream of that the fucking massacre he said some shit like subscribe yeah subscribe to pewdiepie which is like what that's something like don't even want to like fucking get near this. No, it's weird, but you're kind of saying it all over the place.

Yeah, well, okay, cool. Part of the zeitgeist and not a great part. An international white supremacist. Right, or edgelord who walks the line and has a little bit of... But even if you walk the line, you're winking at the supremacist and you're enabling it. Yeah, that's not a thing to joke with and it's not comedy right

you're just doing just really stupid shit to try and arouse some kind of reaction out of people without any thought into it it's fucking reckless no I'm acting racist

but it's funny because I'm not actually racist right you guys in my own mind I'm not racist yeah well Jenna

it has been a pleasure having you here. Has it? It is. What are you talking about? Of course. Where can people find you? I have a show on Adult Swim called Soft Focus. Hopefully we'll get to do more. And then I'm on Twitter and I have a

live show that I'm going to be doing in the Edinburgh fringe called Miscarriage of Justice.iscarriage of Justice. Miscarriage of Justice. How's that spelled? Like it should be? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Miscarriage of Justice.

Like the words are spelled. Cool. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, you know, Stephen Colbert had a really funny tweet about, it was very, it just was a very funny, turns out the real collusion was all the friends we made along the way. I just, that made me laugh. Nothing makes me laugh anymore. Yeah. Cool.

Miles, where can people find you? Find me on Twitter, Instagram at milesofgray. A tweet I like is from Amy Miller, at Amy Miller. She's been in Portland, so she's had a lot of Portland-based tweets. And this one is, regular bartender, open or closed? Portland bartender. Okay, cool. So, yeah, did you want to, like, pay with cash or keep a card with me and I'll give it right back?

Or, like, what are you feeling right now? Oh, shit, I'll be right back. My friend is here. What's up, Trevor? You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. I like to tweet from Nick Weiger. He tweeted a picture of a free blooming onion that he won at a Lakers game, and he said, biggest win of the season.

And then Trayvon Free, somebody tweeted a picture of the Trump family, like the new Trump family photo that looks like a reality show, like publicity still. And they said, name this new reality show. And Trayvon Free wrote the amazing racist, which was good. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on Miles by Second Beat. This one is from a man from South London, Paul White. He's a producer, but he's been putting out some solo stuff that's really good.

This song is called Returning. Some nice, you know, little trippy guitar, some beat in there. It's a really, I like it. Psychedel psychedelic should we say uh r.i.p oh yeah god damn and then over the weekend yeah nipsey hustle uh man la legendary rapper uh was shot and just killed in broad daylight outside of his store in hyde park um and it's a shame, man. He was just a... I had the opportunity to work with him a couple of times, not like very closely, but to have a few interactions with him,

a very good person, and was doing a lot in the neighborhood he grew up in to try and help people, like really, really reinvesting in his community. So it's very... Yeah, LA lost somebody very important. I mean, I think hip-hop and just the people in general have lost a very very important person uh so it's always the people who are

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