The Daily Zeitgeist - “Small” Businesses, Down With VOD 4.29.20

Episode Date: April 29, 2020

In episode 619, Jack and Miles are joined by Ethnically Ambiguous co-host Shereen Younes to discuss PPP going to the wrong companies, the Kentucky governor's latest faux pas, a round up of Trump flubs, Trolls World Tour killing it on video on demand, and more!FOOTNOTES: Multi-millionaire Trump donor is top recipient of funds intended for struggling small businesses Dallas Hotel Owner Is Biggest Beneficiary of Coronavirus Loan Program What’s Wrong With America? Kentucky governor apologizes after accusing resident named Tupac Shakur of unemployment prank Trump to Order U.S. Meat Plants to Stay Open Amid Pandemic Trump Claims His ‘Talent’ Or ‘Luck’ Saved Lives As COVID-19 Death Toll Approaches 60K Three weeks of Trump coronavirus briefings under a microscope: 2 hours spent on attacks, 45 minutes on self-congratulation — and 4½ minutes of condolences for victims President's intelligence briefing book repeatedly cited virus threat ‘Trolls World Tour’: Universal PVOD Experiment Racks Up Near Estimated $100M To Date WATCH: Childish Gambino - Time (Audio) ft. Ariana Grande Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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basically genetically stitched to my back um so thank you for that took me back we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented and brilliant shireen lani unis uh wait wait is this where i do the akas yeah yeah go ahead when does that happen hit him with him okay i want to shout out i want to shout out i want to shout out anthony briggs for sending me the screenshot from january 2020 of uh chrissy amaguchi main supportive uh listener he gave me a bunch of akas okay shireen lani, aka Shireen Dion, aka Shireen Davis, aka Diana Boss and the Shireens, aka the Jolly Shireen Giant.

Hell yeah. Jolly Shireen Giant. Hey, another Demolition Man reference, because if you remember in the scene with a go-to Taco Bell, Dan Cortez is sitting at a grand piano in a tuxedo singing the jingle for the Jolly Green Giant.

I have no recollection of this. I'm sure that's what they were referring to. Probably. I don't know. That's what I see. Was Dan Cortez playing Dan Cortez? It was like a cameo because it was like 93, so Dan Cortez was like popping.

So they were just like, yeah, get Dan Cortez in there real quick for a camp. Cameo. And of course, Daisy Fuentes was the twist-ending bad guy. She was the Kaiser Soza of Demolition Man. Shireen, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. We're going to look at one case study of one of the people who got that PPP money and just how that system has worked in general.

It hasn't. We're going to look at what happens when you have elections during a pandemic. We are going to look at Tupac. Pac is even applying for these UI benefits. We're going to look at... He's back. Just do a Trump bullshit roundup. There's a lot to catch up on there.

And we are going to talk about the Troll sequel and what that means for business in Hollywood. But first, Shereen, we like to ask our guests. Well, first I want to ask you, how are you? How have you been? How are you? I'm fine. I have a pulse.

My whole life is just waiting to eat and then waiting to sleep and waiting to eat again and waiting to sleep again. Oh, so you punctuate your days with eating and sleeping? I feel like people have different things they wait for. and waiting to sleep again oh so you punctuate your days with eating and sleeping those are the i feel like people have different things they wait for like everyone has the one sleep where they're like please let me just close my eyes and the sun comes up again yeah i have not i i forget to eat lunch every day yeah i do too i mean food is the only thing keeping me going at this point and i'm running out which is bleak i think that's

what's that's what's the the the dangerous part is that if i eat too much i won't have enough for tomorrow but i have to have just enough to keep me alive for tomorrow so it's a game i play with myself but um oh okay you know it sounds like a fun game i mean podcast, just recording this podcast is me biding time until I can go eat. Right. Or sleep. That's all it is. That's all I'm... Yeah, or sleep.

Are you fucking with naps at all? I can't nap. I've tried. I don't know. It doesn't work for me. I was able to in the past, but I think the state of the world has made my mind simultaneously mush and also hyperactive, and I can't do anything at all i just kind of sit there right um i have been watching seinfeld for the very first time though that's been fun

oh because it's like a time capsule of like a the 90s and and it's been really fun to like escape into that like pre pre anything but like 9-11 like it's the fashion's great the it's just it's pure and so I've been escaping into the into Seinfeld yeah Jerry's kick game is bonkers yeah he's really yeah are you what do you how is it for you to watch a show that's like so seminal to other people and you're just like mainlining it right now are you are you just watching being like oh I get why they like it it's because it reminds me of a time that was less complicated or are you are you kind of vibing with the show yeah i love the show i i mean i i understand why people like it it's like it's i can imagine if i grew up watching it i would really like it too

and i kind of feel like i'm playing catch up to a lot of things because i only watched curb your enthusiasm for the first time last year too so I feel like I'm catching up to all of these figures like comedy figures that everyone's really loved this whole time like Mary David or Jerry Seinfeld but I really I mean I'm enjoying it it's it's funny that I just intend I feel like there are blips in my cultural knowledge just because I'm like maybe a child of an immigrant family or just being Syrian or learning Arabic first and before English. I think that made me have a couple of cultural blips as far as like entertainment goes. And Seinfeld happened to fall in there. But I'm glad to be catching up.

I mean, like now's the time. But it does make it kind of strange because like I want to talk to people about it. And everyone's like, I don't remember this episode. Like I don't like it. This is like from 20 years ago. I don't know. Oddly, I never feel the generation gap more than when I hear people your age talk about 90s fashion. Like I saw this when we were doing our MIB recap and I was making fun of Will Smith's clothes

and Jamie was like, oh, his clothes are so great. And you're saying the fashion in Seinfeld is great, whereas I have a memory of that fashion and I look on it with great shame and derision, And I look on it with great shame and derision, but I feel like young people are all about that 90s fashion, that blouse and Jerry Seinfeld shirt.

Right. Well, here's the difference. I mean, thank you for calling me young. You are very young. Thank you for calling me young, first of all. I just turned 30 in quarantine. Oh, 30 in quarantine. Oh, happy 40th. happy 40th wow some people and that's not 40 but people jack are you have a 40th i mean yeah i will have a 40th wow yeah 40th day over the hill huh what's that why did that people i remember that was like the one the

three kinds of balloons you would see at the store. It would be like dads, grads, moms, happy birthday and over the hill. Yeah. That's 40, right? I think so.

Or is it a move? Is it subjective based on society? Yeah. I think it's like the Wednesday of your life cycle. It's like you're almost there, except instead of having a weekend to look forward to you have everything being bad and people starting to ignore you oh boy oh boy uh well shereen we like to ask our guest as you know what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are

okay well i did look this up this morning because i was genuinely curious and i kid you not the first one was best yoga poses to cry in that's where i'm at okay that's and fair i don't mean to laugh because at whatever you're going through i'm just it's okay no it was the thing that was amusing to me was the thought put into it. Now, when you were thinking about a pose, is it that you don't, you're thinking that the way in which you might be crying, you don't want to strain your back? Like what means best? Yeah. Like what if it was like a hyperventilating cry?

Like what if it was like a hyperventilating, like what if I have like a shortness of breath cry? Like is a child's pose better than like a mountain pose or a tree pose i think what i started all of this because i started crying while i was doing yoga the other night and then the search results were actually kind of interesting because apparently crying during yoga was like a whole thing like i people like right i read this article about this girl that was like like i cried during yoga for the first time but it was more about her like realizing something about herself or like getting a pose and when i was crying i was like trying to do crow pose which is really hard and i can't do

it because i have no arm strength but um and you got frustrated i was like i got frustrated but i was also like before i did yoga but before i decided to do yoga that night, I wanted to cry. Like, I was like, should I cry or should I do yoga? And I was like, you know what? Oh, got it. I'm not going to cry right now. I'll do yoga. And then it kind of caught up to me as I was doing it.

And then, like, the pinnacle of that was, like, me trying to do crow. And I was like, I can't fucking do it. I can't do it. I'm a piece of shit. And then, yeah. Why is that considered crow? crow and i was like i can't fucking do it i can't do it i'm a piece of shit and then yeah why is that considered crow because that looks like i don't do crows stand on there oh i get it your your feet are the crow's head i guess is that right i've never thought of that before oh wow life i don't know i don't crow is like you're i don't know why it's called crow it just is crow you're standing on your on your hands oh your hands and like your your knees

are kind of like in your in your armpit area and yeah yeah i've just always wanted to be able to do like a headstand or a handstand and i could do a like a supported headstand like if i have a fucking wall but it doesn't count so i've been trying to practice yoga yeah uh but then i just start crying that was my search history best yoga pose to cry i'm curious when you actually searched that was there a resource that was saying like if you're gonna cry be in these poses or did it just sort of connect you to articles about the experience of crying during yoga yeah it was more like that there wasn't anything that really satisfied there wasn't anything in the vein of my existential crisis it was more like that there wasn't anything that really satisfied there wasn't anything in the vein of my existential crisis it was like yeah there's more just like yoga can help you

find yourself and it's crying is okay it's like wait i found this article in mary claire pose you do yeah 13 poses to to to achieve sab sana yeah Yeah. No, none of that. None of that. What is something you think is underrated, Shereen? Okay. I thought about this, and I think I landed on, again, with my life circling and orbiting around my fridge, kimchi and sauerkraut, incredibly underrated. One, they keep forever. It's already fermented. It's already, like, it's just delicious already fermented it's already like it's just delicious

vegetables are just like going to be in your fridge for months and months which is very good right now because you can go in and just have a dollop here and there on your lunch or dinner or whatever the fuck um also it's delicious i have both kimchi and sauerkraut depending on my mood usually i go for the kimchi because i want some fucking heat there you go want some spice there you go but very underrated no one fucking goes like when i went grocery shopping last time tons of sauerkraut tons of kimchi i think uh it's a slept on slept on flavor enhancer and it gets you some veggies because it's cabbage and like other yummy things so that's my underrated i think uh add kimchi to shit which is funny because they're

like they're basically two sides of the same coin this like fermented cabbage leafy vegetable thing because a lot of i i'm i think the origin even of sauerkraut is asian but like it even though the word is german that a lot of people uh trace it back to being something like the Mongols or the Chinese had brought to Europeans. But pickled vegetables, I think I was talking about this a few weeks ago. I was getting more interested in the food like my grandmother, my Japanese older relatives would be eating from back then. It's all food that keeps a very long time um and is easy to make with cheap ingredients i was just i was just extolling the virtues of cabbage not not a mere two days ago yeah i mean it's it's especially now that's what we need we know more than ever easy and and shelf

stable or like refrigerator shelf stable and also it's good for you. It's like a good probiotic, rich fucking veggie thing. And I don't know. I just like it. So there's my underrated. Do you, um, yeah.

What kind of, what kind of kimchi do you have at your house, Jack? Where you get your kimchi at? We have just a giant jar. We get it from the Korean market. And usually we, usually.

Are you making it? Am I making it? Like we eat it every once in a while as a side no no we don't make it ourselves no we we buy it um my mother-in-law has a refrigerator specifically for like pickled vegetables and kimchi because the the the stink is real the stink oh hell yeah it It will infect your other vegetables. All our yogurt smells and tastes like kimchi, but that's all right because it is.

You're right. It is great. I can see how Americans, like it wouldn't get bought at a lot of American grocery stores, but it's like my wife's main comfort food for sure. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. I'm curious, what are you throwing sauerkraut like on top of when you said,

you know, just do a little quick hit of sauerkraut? Like what are you eating where you go, you know what? Let me turn this peanut butter jelly up with some sauerkraut. No! That sounds awful. But no, I mean like, okay. So my go-to things right now are just making like a big portion of something and just like throwing a bunch of things in.

So like yesterday I made a big pot of quinoa. I had some steamed broccoli and some veggies. And then I just like made myself like a veggie bowl with like everything I had in my fridge. And like it just, it's good with with that like it adds like flavor to anything it's like it's it's like a salsa within veggies and it's just so good it's just so yummy so like little things like that you can just add it to anything you can eat it on its own i've eaten sauerkraut out of the thing who fucking cares you know what else you gotta try if you live by a salvadorian restaurant that does pupusas get the curtido which is the salvadorian cabbage

slaw shout out to all cabbage slaws across the world we love you yeah yeah me and anna we uh i feel like when i think of pupusas i think of anna because we had a lot of pupusas it was she lived in my area we would go to this one place all the time get some papusas and yeah that's like the what's it called cortado wait no curtido what's what's the slot called curtido curtido c-u-r-t-i-d-o it's so good i think every culture has some type of fermented veggie uh vinegar thing and um well every culture i mean like a lot of cultures have it and i think many um and they're just like they enhance anything and they're so simple and they stay a long time in your fridge and um they're good for you so eat your veggies is what i'm trying to say what is uh what's something you think is overrated for you. This one is very particular to my current existence,

but keeping my roommate's plants alive, I find very overrated. She hasn't been here for, I want to say two months. She's been at her boyfriend's place, which is great. I have the place to myself, totally fine, but I'm stuck taking

care of these plants right um i purposely don't have plants because i can't handle the idea of taking care of a living thing it freaks me out i don't know why i that's why i feel like i've avoided even though i love animals i can't have a pet right now because i just think the responsibility and commitment of maintaining another life form is too much. Even a plant. All my plants are either fake or dead. And so her plants are thriving. And I have this responsibility of keeping them alive now.

And I'm just, it's like that tweet, like that Kanye West tweet where he's like, someone left a water bottle on a plane and now I'm responsible for this water bottle. Like that's what it feels like I'm experiencing with these plants. Have you discussed this? Sure, there's like, no, I haven't. She hasn't been here. And I don't want to talk to her.

And she's a doctor. She's working in a hospital. Oh, okay, you got to take care of that fucking plant. So I don't want to be like, by the way, they are, they're thriving. I'm looking at one right now. Then you should feel good. Well, I spray the leaves they are they're thriving they're looking at one right now then you should feel good well i i spray

i spray the leaves in like some some nurturing like i rotate it so on one hand i've established a bond with these plants right that has been a interesting trip for me because part of me is like i guess i am capable of keeping something alive but then another part of my brain is waiting for myself to kill it at all times um like just throw it out the window like fuck this plant no i just neglect i feel like i'm gonna wake up and it's gonna be shriveled up yeah just i mean like i just don't trust myself to take care of is there any concern that when your roommate returns and you have established this bond with her plants that you will feel that they are now your plants in some kind of a losing Isaiah type situation?

Custody battle. Yeah. I see a custody battle in the offing. No, I never thought of that until just now. Yeah, just think about that. Yeah. Watch the movie Losing Isaiah. It's probably a one-to-one comparison.

I might watch her like spray the leaves and then be like, I did it better. Or like... Start taking shots. You're like, oh, so that's how you do it? Okay. Okay. No, I'm kidding.

I don't know. It's just, I mean, plants are beautiful and things, but it's just, there's an element of, it's just a lot of responsibility. Yeah, but look, you're overcoming it. Why put yourself through more stress? But it's more stress. You're taking care of another life form at all times. And what if I want to go away?

What if I was also at my parents' house, for example, right now? And what if she was at her boyfriend's place? These plants would shrivel up and die. You know what I mean? You're responsible for these. But those are the hard decisions we have to make if we're going to reopen America. We got to decide which plants will live.

Some will die, but that's what it takes. Some will die. Is it worth the economy? Yeah, they said we need 80 times as much testing. We need 80 times as much testing as we currently have to reopen america and twice as much attention paid to plants uh house plants it's very important yeah yeah that's what i'm thinking of that's my concern uh shereen what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false okay well this kind of ties in i guess a little bit to the google search

history i didn't think of it until just now as i'm talking about it out loud but um even though there's scientific evidence to back this up people think that working out makes you feel good and sure there's things called there's things called endorphins i understand whatever whatever science, but I don't want to like gas myself up right now, but I've been working out more consistently than I have in a very long time. Like I've been, I have a, I have a whole setup. I rearranged my entire apartment to have more room. I have weights, I have everything. And I've been working out pretty much every day for like an hour and I've never felt worse about myself or just about the world I've never felt worse like I've thought I thought this was supposed to make me feel good right and I feel

but your work your workout can't just be you set up a mat with some weights around you and then you just turn the news on and watch that for an hour straight like what's your that's not what I'm doing I know I know what's your what's your like i mean are you over like are you super gassed at the end so you just feel dead every time or what what's your level of intensity there so i alternate i'll do like if i if i want to wash my hair that day i'll do something that makes me disgustingly sweaty like a hit or a cardio workout damn and then i'll do but then i'll feel good and then i'll but it's it's I'll, but it's so, it's too short lived. Like it's too fleeting. Like, and I, at the end of the day, I'm like in shape, but miserable.

So I don't know. I mean, I guess I was miserable before, so it's not fair, but it's not, I don't know. It's just. Do you feel a slight, I a net improvement i cried doing yoga i cried doing yoga but do you have a net i feel there's probably a net improvement from pre non like not working out as much to working out that there is something because you did say there is something it's just super short there is something that keeps me coming back i think there's like especially now it's been helpful because when i'm working out, I'm not looking at any type of like phone or anything. I'm completely

focused on what my body is doing for that hour, that 30 minutes, whatever time I give myself. So that's been an interesting mind exercise. It's like you're only focused on doing this exercise, then this exercise, and then like your body is moving and it's like this choreography or whatever. That's been helpful. And that's what keeps me coming back. But I also think the main reason I keep doing it is just to like, waste an hour of the day. Like, what else am I going to do? I might as well move around for an hour and then go back to watching Seinfeld. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know.

Yeah. I think it sounds like, too, just add some more mindfulness. Shit, if you really want to blow by an hour, like take an hour to literally, you know, listen to a talk, meditate, just be introspective a bit because an hour can go by. But shit, I feel much better when I actually take the time to, like, deal with you know process things and accept you know go through some acceptance exercises and shit

yeah or learn about uh what our conservative neighbors think by watching fox news for a little bit i find that uh is really good put on a vr headset and watch fox in 360 uh yeah all right guys let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about the news. In 1982, Atari players had one thing on their minds. Sword Quest. This wasn't just a new game. Atari promised 150 grand in prizes to four finalists.

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Yeah. The PPP is Paycheck Protection Program or Payment Plan. But yeah, the idea is basically to keep people employed by small businesses. And there's a really good case study recently in, I guess, popular. It's about a guy named, what is it? Monty. Monty Bennett. First of all, his name is Monty.

Yeah. So you know he's just a regular man of the people with the name Monty. Yeah. I mean, look, everyone named Monty. I just think of old Monty Burns, Mr. Burns. I love Monty. I love him. He's been a great supporter of the president. He owns three companies that basically work in the hospitality industry fucking does did two over two billion in revenue last year just killing the game 120 hotels 7 000 fucking people employed and then the pandemic hits cuts 95 of his staff and still takes fucking ppp money to the tune of 96 million dollars now jesus we keep hearing about this shit because there's like ruth's fucking PPP money to the tune of $96 million.

Now, we keep hearing about this shit because there's like Ruth's Chris. People are like, why the fuck are you taking this money or Shake Shack? And a lot of companies were shamed into giving their money back because the thing that they don't talk about, which is another reason why we absolutely need to get money out of politics is lobbyists help even craft this, this kind of recovery legislation. And in this one, they put in a nice little provision that says, if you have a location that employs 500 people or less, that's a small business. So even if you are a massive company, you can apply for each location as a company or as an entity because they employ less than 500 people. And this man, Monty was using using that exact loophole to collect $96 million and cut over 90% of his staff. Now, that money is meant, like we all said, to keep... The whole reason is to keep people employed so they're not going

on unemployment. Then these small businesses can ask for subsidies from the government to absorb that hit and the government's like hey if you spend 75 of this money on like payroll expenses um we like then the debt will be forgiven but based on everything we're seeing from monty this dude just took the is just taking the cash and writing medium posts about haha like i was poor a long time ago so fuck y'all this is my money essentially yeah yeah i mean it's so if you spend 75 of the money on paychecks you don't have to pay it back and he's like yeah i'm not gonna do that instead i'm gonna fire 90 of my employees and then uh pay out dividends to holders of preferred stock whatever the the fuck that means. It just means like basically finding a way

to make rich people richer. Well, rather than taking that money from those dividends and putting it back into your fucking company, or we've talked about like buybacks that were a big thing that were talked about for a lot of the companies that got tax cuts during the Trump tax cut. You know, that money should, if you were worth a fuck,

you'd put that money back into your business so you can keep people employed rather than being like well the revenue is down if i cut this off then i can get 96 million from the president and i can just pay that back over two years that's essentially what's doing now the thing that's really fucking disgusting about all of this is this man goes to medium like every great thought leader does to defend their bullshit um in a really really sincere essay uh there's some really great excerpts that wonkette pulled out um what he's like one of the opening paragraphs talks about like why this isn't like you know why this bailout is fine and this is what he says quote some politicians are too concerned whether proposed government programs help small businesses rather than quote big businesses or individuals instead

of quote corporations they seem terrified they'll be accused of bailing out in industry or certain companies is it preferable for a large business like marriott to lay off hundreds of thousands of workers so we can say we helped only small businesses? Interesting. Okay, interesting point. Then he goes on to say, well, now let's mix in some xenophobia. This crisis was caused by either the purposeful or negligent actions of a semi-hostile foreign nation.

This is not a normal market condition. Goes on to say, why is Washington protecting the Chinese? Why am I allowed to legally pursue an American citizen or company, but the Chinese government is off limits? Why does Washington care more about a communist regime than it does about its own citizens? Great Trump tactic that he's using there. And then, really great one to sum it up. Media concerns over our receipt of PPP funds are misplaced.

Media concerns over our receipt of PPP funds are misplaced. The PPP program was specifically designed to help companies like ours as part of the national objective of shoring up businesses and getting people back to work. But you are not doing that. Right. You're taking the money and running. Instead, firing everyone. Taking money and using it as a low-interest loan to, you know, just using it the way really wealthy people use money to make more money and for themselves only makes me so mad yeah it makes me so mad because my dad he's a small business owner uh he had to shut down all his stores obviously it's like a clothing store he has

one store open because it sells medical scrubs and that's been a really important thing for like obviously people are washing their clothes more often because they're, if they're working in the medical field, but he's been struggling a lot. He hasn't gotten any financial help yet. And, uh, a lot of his employees, like he's trying to pay them as much as he can because they, a lot of them relied on that, that, uh paycheck but the fact that people like this fucking just an awful person is like getting so much assistance when he doesn't when and using it the wrong way it makes me so enraged

because i'm seeing firsthand how businesses are suffering it's so awful this is what class warfare looks like this is saying this is money that should go to you to help you help your father, help other small business owners. Because the thing is, the government and these wealthy people are exploiting our willingness to be humane to our fellow human to excuse their greed. And they know, okay, well, if these people take care of each other because they don't have shit and they're already treating each other humanely, I'm going to take this cash and fuck off and laugh my ass off to the bank while in my Medium posts say, actually, I'm only getting $700,000 in my salary this year because I took a big pay cut. Eat shit.

These are the fucking people that are stealing from us, and they laugh all the way to the fucking bank. And I think, you know, I really hope that out of this, people begin to see what these sort of manifestations are in our day-to-day lives when we're trying to help smaller the little guy quote-unquote and we have the but the system is set up for assholes like monty to swoop in and pick up their 96 million dollar check and fire everybody yeah empathy yeah but they get but the thing is they get away with it like that's what's enraging they

get away with it that's what they do it over and over again because we our government allows them to do it and so that kind of just makes me feel so hopeless and like what is the is there a solution like can we actually like the fact that we have to there is a little guy compared to a big guy the big guy's always gonna want to stay the big guy you know what i mean like it's so rare that a fucking billionaire person is like actually distributing their wealth in a way that is helpful for the betterment of the world and not just the betterment of themselves you know i don't know yeah i mean i like america and american capitalism are a system or a machine that's under stress and we are seeing you know what what the we're seeing the problems really highlighted and yeah you know this is a great example of you know just a perfect illustration of how empathy is a liability in American capitalism.

Sociopathy and narcissism are an asset. Yeah, and then just having an advantage, whatever advantage he used to get to the front of the line, presumably something with his money, also gave him an advantage. So know the idea i i think the idea that anything like the the underlying idea of capitalism that we like like to use to justify it that it's a meritocracy just is being uh put put to shame like no nobody can see what is happening here and believe that well you see to hear how tone deaf there's another thing actually i want to point out from his medium post that he said to

defend himself against these attacks against capitalism jack that he says quote i'm proud of our accomplishments of the hotels i've bought and built and of the thousands of folks i've hired who have become like family to me that I've just fired. I won't apologize for being a capitalist in America or for being reasonably successful at it, but even a capitalist system with companies only and no government backstop does not work. So him saying, yo, this only works by me exploiting their labor and then also asking for subsidies from the federal government that should actually be going to the people that are vulnerable. Okay. Yeah. So anyway, this is what it

is. I would starve to feed my family. And it really is frustrating when these corporate leaders use the language of like, hey, we're a family. we're all a family here and it's just what there's completely uh either they don't have enough empathy to even have real human relationships with their family or they're just you know they're just appropriating language i think what you do though too is to insulate yourself from doing this kind of fucked up shit is that you just have to use that saying of like it's just business man and sometimes you got to make tough business decisions because if you can use that language you can compartmentalize what that effect is on an actual human being because when you say tough business decisions is different than putting a employee of mine on the street to figure out how they're going to survive so I can

fucking buy whatever. You know what I mean? Like, then you got to go that down that rabbit hole. And that's too dark for somebody to do. So I'd rather just say, I'm treating this as numbers, man. We just got to tighten the belt. We got to make a tough business decision. And that's where it ends. That's where all the thought. But yeah, it justifies it justifies having a severe lack of empathy. And I think it's so, I'm going to think about this for a while. The fact that like empathy is not cohesive to capitalism, right? Or like the idea of capitalism.

Yeah, it just doesn't work. Yeah. You're not going to make money. But they justify everything by like, yeah, you're right. Tough business, you know? You don't make money by giving the money away to fucking what the fuck are you talking about you're supposed to suck up as much fucking money as possible till your cheeks puff out and then you fucking swallow it down and get more till your body gets so bloated with fucking greed and money that you know the world

rots around you you described kirby. You described Kirby. Yeah. Ah, but this is no dreamland. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about Tupac. Uh, Tupac, uh,

so Kentucky governor, Andy Beshear has been doing like a, a pretty decent job. He's the, he's the Democrat that won in Kentucky. So, uh, you know,

shout out to him, uh, taking over just what the worst and most despised governor prior to him. Yeah, who was like governor.

I forget what his name was. He was pardoning like absolute criminals like on his way out and like a couple of them like re-offended and people were like, what the fuck?

Anyway, so yeah, comparatively Bashir is fantastic but also doing what he can in a red state to try and keep people safe so it's a tough job yeah yeah so he had a press briefing on monday where he wanted to give a little anecdote about uh how people are exploiting unemployment and he we had somebody, so this is not an example of him crushing it. He said, we had somebody apply for unemployment for Tupac Shakur here in Kentucky. And that person may have thought they were being funny.

They probably did, except for the fact that because of them, we had to go through so many other claims. Cut to, there's a guy named Tupac Shakur who lives in Lexington. and he just the governor was like what the fuck got to check yeah yeah all they had to do so everyone was like hold on bro this is this is a man named tupac malik shakur who was just like yeah bro i converted to islam like in the late 90s i liked the i liked the surname because it wasn't me like love of god but he was just like yeah that's why i changed my name but i'm a real guy

i work at a restaurant my fucking restaurant closed down i need help like what the fuck is this the the owner of the restaurant was like i just think it's so messed up tupac's a great guy like i that you they should have just verified uh like you know know, that Tupac works here. But it's just so funny when you keep reading this, everyone referring to him as Tupac. But the governor called him directly to apologize and was like, I'm sorry. Like, that's fucked up. Because you can't just go off like, oh, that's a funny name. That's got to be a joke. Ha!

Rather than taking the time. Like, all you have to do is be like, that's a resident of our state. That is someone who lives in Kentucky. Yeah. Well, that's crazy. They didn't verify it before the press briefing, before anything. Right.

They just like went with it. It's just assumed it was a state. Because I'm sure someone in that office is like, oh, wow, you're not, wait to get ahold of this one, Andy. Someone applied for Tupac to get an unemployment. And then that's how it goes like rather than people being having the cultural sensitivity but like yeah that could also be

someone else's name they're like there was only one highlander it's also an example of uh of just this this sort of lazy way that government the government has just uh perpetuated this myth that there's voting fraud or the myth of the welfare queen, the woman who is cashing welfare checks and then driving around in a Range Rover or whatever. It's all this bullshit that is just rich conservative people making up stories to justify their selfishness and over making things as difficult as possible for underrepresented people. Yeah.

Well, luckily, after the call from the governor, Tupac was very chill, as tupac would be um and said he said i understand he's dealing with a lot mistakes happen see wow there it is again empathy understanding i understand yes yeah wow tupac is a great guy wisdom guy you know what i mean to live and die in kent Right. Shout out to Lexington. What a poet. Shout out to Lexington Catholic and Beaumont Middle School. Is that where you went to school? Yeah.

Beaumont Middle? My son after it, yeah. Love the school so much, name my kid after it. Loved it so much. Dad, what's my name? Where's my name come from? Oh, you're named after a middle school I went to in Kentucky. In Lexington, Kentucky.

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just recap bullshit roundup of the president uh miles you want to kick us off yeah i figure we'll do this so we don't have to get too into the weeds of what he's saying because we know none of it is real and most of it is just to create a headline or distraction so here we go he recently said on his china ban that his killer instincts may have saved the country so he said quote when i when i did the ban on China, almost everybody was against me, including Republicans, Trump said. He said the ban was very early, whether it was luck, talent or something else. We saved many thousands of lives. Wow. OK, shut the fuck up. But then it goes on. Another thing he said is he's there was a headline that said someone from tyson foods was saying

there could be a meat shortage by the end of the week um and because many of his followers yeah they were you know they were just his followers and they said wait i can't get this pork or beef i i have a god-given right to colon cancer uh so he said basically that the meat packing facilities would stay open uh and operate since they are critical infrastructure. Now, that is what people are. There was a story that he may use the Defense Production Act to basically force these companies to operate. But this has not been signed. This is something he's teased and again, could just be something because many people were very just narrowly focused on like our meats. Meanwhile meanwhile people who are doing

the processing of this meat are in very close quarters are very at risk and i think you know we need to look at that actually seriously that shit is dangerous we we got this from meat we got this from meat tell them right like a different i mean we don't know a different kind of meat a different kind of meat but A different kind of meat. But if you're operating in such close quarters and you're fucking handling food and then packing it and like it can fuck. That's you're just asking for trouble. Yeah. I don't know.

It's funny that just kind of a sign of how things have changed that we're using the Defense Protection Act to produce meat. were using the Defense Protection Act to produce meat because during World War II, they just rationed meat and people weren't allowed to eat as much meat as they wanted or dairy. And it was actually the first and only time that American heart disease rates dropped in the history of the country was during World War II meat and dairy rationing. But it got kind of written out of the textbooks because the dairy farmers are powerful. Yeah. I remember in elementary school, my book said, without three glasses of milk and two T-bone steaks a day, you will die within four days.

Yeah. glasses of milk and two t-bone steaks a day you will die within four days yeah just show you just show you shrivel down into one of those little thing those little people from uh i have a feeling yeah i think my book was written by i think my book was written by lobbyists but i'm not sure on the back which is like a got milk ad it has it has it has uh george washington but he has the milk mustache yeah yeah exactly exactly so a washington post analysis of two weeks of his briefings of trump's crisis meetings uh covid 19 briefings found uh between so they looked looked at April 6th to April 24th. Trump spoke for 13 hours, which is twice as long as the next person, Dr. Deborah Birx, who actually oversees the administration's virus response. There's a New Yorker article this week about how the like

guidebook for how to respond to one of these is you don't put a politician out front. You put a medical expert out front who becomes the face of the thing and who is just very, you know, sticks to five bullet points of like information that doesn't really change. Trump has completely, you know, fucked that. The content of his remarks during those,

oh, also he answered questions addressed to someone else on the stage more than a third of the time which is amazing considering that there's a good chance that could be a question aimed directly at a scientist yes i think i got this one definitely yeah right yeah unless it's like pence or something when he's like he doesn't talk yes uh and then they also analyzed the 13 hours that he spoke uh and found that uh there were two hours spent just attacking people uh 30 minutes on democrats 25 minutes on the media, 22 minutes attacking governors, and China was attacked for 21 minutes. About 45 of the minutes were spent praising himself and his administration, including three instances in which he played videos that featured support for him and his administration.

And finally, drumroll please, four and a half minutes were spent expressing condolences for coronavirus victims uh again these this is a crisis that has killed will soon surpass vietnam uh has already surpassed the entirety of the korean war he's like nah you know let's talk about how great i am that is so shameful it is but he is shameless and hence good at capitalism that's all you need can't have empathy need tons and you can't have shame dude or else you are gonna fucking be poor man isn't that so but it's so dangerous to have empathy in opposition with like supposed success. I really dislike that reality that we're like coming to is that having empathy is not, it's

almost like a weakness. You know what I mean? Because you need to be a robot. You need to be, you know what I mean? It depends. Right. I mean, we can look at it very narrowly and say that's what you have to do. But I think at the end of the day people are people are just wired like that or

they're not and I think maybe some people can develop that over time but Shereen I don't think if you had I don't know I mean I I presume to know your heart but I feel like if you were caught in a situation where you had to do something completely fucked up you would really take a second to think about it and if it's worth it to you worth to your own stress whatever to do that because some people i know people who literally they only know money like they really only know money they don't they don't have hobbies they just love money and that is their life and i like over time you sort of you distance grows between you because like we don't see eye to eye on a lot of shit we grew up together and that's what we had but on some level you'll see people and you're like oh

wow like if money didn't exist you probably wouldn't know what to do with yourself um but yeah i mean i think most people know that in deep down like we're built to take care of one another uh most people are i think the majority are that's why the much like even though there is a lot of suffering in the world there is a lot of kindness and trying to help each other out there despite all the you know yeah external factors i agree you know that's a good thing to remember i think i think you're right that i think deep down especially now we're seeing who are the people with empathy and we're seeing how important empathy is just to like,

because we're all going through a collective trauma. Whether or not we recognize it right now, I think it's a very collective trauma and however we process it and however we express our empathy is important. But do you think, I have a question, because I do think some people are just hardwired one way or the other, but do you think i have a question because i do think some people are just hardwired one way or the other but do you think empathy can be learned like if someone has a history of not showing

empathy or or care for someone else is that something that can be taught or learned or is that just like not possible i think it can be taught yeah Yeah. I think human beings are very adaptable. I think we exist in a society that reinforces the wrong instincts at this moment. And so narcissistic people get to see Donald Trump become president or Kanye West become one of the most famous people on the planet. So, I mean, I think people can be socially conditioned to do a lot of different things. And we're not the right place to socially condition anybody to feel empathy because there's not a whole lot of representations of that that we see in reality getting people positive consequences other than podcasters. Let's talk about trolls, you guys.

Not the internet kind, but the ones who just had their second movie, Trolls World Tour, take the box office by storm. Did the first one do good? The first one did terribly, right? No, it didn't do terribly. It did fine. Oh, really? Yeah, and I think it was fairly successful on video on demand,

but it did well enough to warrant a sequel. Right, makes sense. Yeah, and so the sequel, they were already kind of into the marketing campaign. They had already launched the marketing campaign for the theatrical release of Trolls World Tour, and then COVID hit, and so they decided rather than just delaying it until Oscar season,

they decided to just let this campaign ride and release it on video on demand. And that was three weeks ago. And it has already made $100 million in video on demand rentals and streaming, and it has already made $100 million in video on demand rentals and streaming, which is how much the original made over five weeks in theaters. So studios are looking at this as evidence that we can kind of move on from theaters, which is a bummer. And I also think it's wrong. No!

I don't think that's right. I think this has more to do with people being at home with their kids and needing a break from parenting. I think we need to see it. In order to draw that conclusion, we would need to see a movie hit that is both not specifically brain candy designed for child brains, but also something that is not during a time when we're all basically prisoners to our TV. This is a very specific set of circumstances yeah that's interesting i mean i wow when i remember hearing like okay they're just gonna go straight to vod

but then yeah seeing this like you're saying to your point that makes sense in this reality i wonder is there gonna be another like every other tentpole film is like no we're waiting for theaters to open back up like so i don't know if we're ever gonna i mean i don't know is there will there be like a parallel like adult center adult focus film that'll come out in quar i'm curious to see what happens if you know a tentpole film like something that was a blockbuster film from the summer that you know we've been pushing everything like the new james bond and all these other films if they would if anyone would even risk putting it on vod right now to see like oh maybe we can get like maybe this is a way to do it right now uh and

it'll have the same effect but i don't know i just feel like trolls is like fuck it's something new my kid hasn't seen or whatever we can like all take a quick break and put like i see like your logic that you laid out why this works but curious to see with the like a big film because i don't know if i would be like fuck man you're gonna read james bond this weekend i mean i think you're completely right because it is very much like like you're stuck at home with your kids like i'm sure giving them an hour at least to watch something an hour and a half is like a little break for them and i think that's why why Trolls is doing so well. It's because so many parents are stuck with their kids right now. And I don't think it's fair.

And I don't know. I think so many like more adult movies, like whether it's James Bond or otherwise, they are waiting for the theaters to open up. But the reality is they're not going to open up anytime soon. Yeah. And so to see these recent movies i think they're they're going to have to be one franchise or one movie that like just like bites the bullet and does

the first and and tries it out like we have to have there has to be a guinea pig because we won't know um so i'm curious what movie that will be and how successful it will be i i'm i think it's going to be successful only because we are consuming content like crazy right now yeah and i can only imagine like like what happened with contagion contagion's like a like over a decade old right and um that i mean like obviously it's the it's a sign of the times and it's very reflective of what we're going through. But the rentals for that movie were absurdly high a month ago. So I think it's possible for a movie to see success during this time. I also don't think that means we should abandon theaters because that makes me very depressed.

Just the thought of that because that's an amazing experience. But I'm curious to see what movie will be the first uh attempt it's gonna take a while like they're gonna have to realize fuck like we can't we can't keep sitting on this james bond or whatever film for another eight months or whatever and i'm sure out of desperation or maybe planning that film will come out and we'll see but yeah i don't i don't if I, it would have to be something significant. Like, okay, I'll check out that Chris Nolan film. Like I'll rent that.

But I could only think of like maybe four films coming out that I'll be like, yeah, fuck it, man. That's a VOD. That's a VOD one right there. Yeah. But inversely, maybe the anticipation, maybe studios are being like, well, by the time this comes out, people are going to be so ready for this that the lines will be crazy. It's going to be so popular in theaters or whatever.

So I don't know. I'm not going to be such an overabundance of big tentpole movies just hitting theaters all at the same time i feel like right exactly and then yeah maybe our bar is so low we're so desperate i'm like jack man you want to camp out in line for that james bond movie exactly uh yes i always feel how i how i greet the release of any james movie. I mean, the Wall Street Journal obviously putting things in the language or viewing the thing from the perspective of the studios made the point that studios have debated movie theaters over their requirement to show a movie exclusively

for more than two months before screening at home. And they kind of said that they had this debate while watching Netflix dominate at home entertainment. So if they can get theaters to let them release movies on demand at the same time that they release in theaters, they feel like they might have a have a shot at competing with netflix which i i'm all for finding like an alternative to netflix

uh because i'm sure netflix will eventually yeah use their massive market dominating power to make things shittier yeah and then eventually get like government funds because they're like we're too big to fail you guys netflix can't go down yeah yeah well shereen it has been a pleasure as always having you uh where can people find you and follow you i'm shereen you can follow me at uh shiro hero on instagram s-h-e-e-r-o-s nope god can i spell uh s-h-e-e-r-o-h-e-r-o and then on twitter it's shiro hero 666 i had a film screen i mean i had my first experience with like a virtual film festival last week so that was interesting or even this weekend i had a film that got into this festival in paris and they had like an online screening thing congrats um which was i mean it was but it was strange because it wasn't yeah it's like going that's

not being a theater right yeah yeah i don't know so that was strange but if you guys are curious what the film is or whatever you can follow me along and I'll probably post it soon because the other festivals are also going to be virtual so I figure what's the point but yeah me and Anna have a podcast Ethnically Ambiguous if you guys don't know listen to us we talk to people every week and it's fun

and go ahead yeah yeah take it away Jack is there a tweet you've been enjoying yeah um i had a couple but i think i narrowed it down to one that really resonated with me it was uh andrew mishan uh hilarious follow him on twitter he's really funny but this tweet was truly nothing more embarrassing than accidentally clicking on a live stream and i really agree with that because i hate all these live streams so much and sometimes i'll just be on my phone scrolling and i'll just like pop in and it would say it's it'll be like three people and i'm one of them and then i'm just there and I have to I don't know whatever so that's my tweet

truly nothing more embarrassing than accidentally clicking on a live stream especially now Miles where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying Twitter, Instagram, Playstation Network Miles of Grey also my other show 420 Day Fiance

talking about 90 Day Fiance some tweets that I like well well well Also, my other show, 420 Day Fiance, talking about 90 Day Fiance. Some tweets that I like. Well, well, well. A couple from Reductress. First, just this woman standing by a toilet with, like, a just nervous look on her face. And it says, now more than ever, toilet must not clog. And then another one's from at Laura E.

Parker. It says some of my best writing has been wasted on sex to men. Whose best reply was, is that so? Oh my God. Is that so? It's such a specific type of, is that so? It's such a specific type of is that so? Yeah.

Like that's their idea of sophistication. Yeah, or like being cheeky about it when she's like, I can't. That's all you got, huh? Can't do it. Rock and roll photos tweeted, I hate Lovecraftian horror. It always reminds me of my dad who killed himself

after looking at an impossible triangle uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what is that going to be today? I was just listening to the Childish Gambino album, 31520, and the song Time with Ariana Grande stuck out to me

because it almost sounded like if Kanye was still doing what he used to do well uh this song has very similar vibes with the auto tune uh and there's just like this keyboard synth line that is straight out of the easy uh melody book uh but it's just a good song and like i don't know has good energy so this is time childish gambino all right the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheartartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. We are going to ride out on that Childish Gambino song,

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