The Daily Zeitgeist - Smokey RobinsTrend 4/28: Smokey Robinson, Steven Crowder, Sludge, Top 20 Influencers, Severance

Episode Date: April 28, 2023

In this edition of Smokey RobinTrend, Jack and Miles discuss Smokey Robinson getting messy in his old age, details from Steven Crowder's divorce, "Sludge" content, Rolling Stone's list of "Top 20 Infl...uencers", and the tumultuous production of "Severance"!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeart on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you
Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of smoky robbins trends that is courtesy of the beautiful golden brain of one miles gray oh man massive mate massive mate it's massive i'm jack that's miles uh welcome back miles thank you wonderful to have you back great to be back smoky robinson is in the news uh for giving an interview where he just dropped some some heat on us some unnecessary heat he's already has like this album out called gasms i don't know if you know about i don't have you heard have you have you seen this new smoky robinson i have not he is in crisis okay like in a way that you're like if
Starting point is 00:02:19 that's your grandpa you're like oh no what the fuck is he doing like it's him trying to be like old people fuck too like the tracks are called i want to know your body no okay another one is you fill me up another one is jack ready for this i fit in there no jack i'm not lying that's the name of a fucking smoky robinson track off this new album i fit in there like the first two sound like romantic like steamy love songs that one just sat like that's like a ad lib from a porn hub video or something oh yeah terrible it's gasms baby it's all gasms gasms yeah there's a there's a lot of people have been like, Oh, these,
Starting point is 00:03:06 these tracks are something else. Anyway, these tracks are something else. Oh, something I did not care to hear about. Anyway, he's trending because look, his album just came out. He's doing like the,
Starting point is 00:03:18 I'm guessing like outrage news cycle, or he's just on his Quincy Jones, like old black man. Who's just starting to be like, Hey man, I used to get into some shit back in the day. And people were like, or he's just on his quincy jones like old black man who's just starting to be like hey man i used to get into some shit back in the day and people were like nobody fucking asked you but oh yeah ivanka trump yeah oh yeah could have had that could have had that you know what i mean but i
Starting point is 00:03:38 didn't because that's when god leaves the room so he's come out recently and admitted he had an affair with diana ross like in the early motown era this is what he said quote i was married at the time we were working together and it just happened but it was beautiful she's a beautiful lady and i love her right till today she's one of my closest people oh okay smoky uh talking about how he was married to his first wife at the time. And he said this affair lasted a fucking year? And he said, she was young and trying to get her career together. I was trying to help her. That doesn't sound fucking
Starting point is 00:04:13 problematic at all, Smokey Robinson. I brought her to Motown. In fact, I wasn't going after her, and she wasn't going after me. It just happened. Sound the fucking alarm bells. What are you saying? Smokey Robinson?
Starting point is 00:04:29 I mean, what? Did Diana Ross? Does she know that you're about to come out here with this shit? That's a great question. Yeah. It just happened. This is where he's telling on himself without realizing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Yeah. I mean, I usually go to elderly singers for my most progressive uh sexual mores but uh jesus i mean it is wild and then also it's like you know i had that before barry gordy did i just want to set the record straight you know because that's not a direct quote is it no no but i mean barry gordy and heard also had you know had a relationship too and a lot of people you know there's a lot of talk about colorism even within the supremes because of diana ross there's all kinds of stuff the history of motown is very interesting i took a whole class on it in college you know that thing where you spend money on to learn obscure facts
Starting point is 00:05:17 about barry gordy's sex life but anyway yeah smoky robinson you've done it you got your name in the headlines but i don't know if it's in the best way. And again, I'm very curious, who knew about this? Like, it's just a very odd story and it's rife with problems. Yes. I just found the lyrics for I Fit In There. Let me in your life.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So it starts out, you're starting to think like, okay, this is, yeah, it's all a metaphor. Let me in your life make some room for me if deep down inside you're hoping to fill up an opening. I fit in there. I fit in there. Oh my God, Smokey.
Starting point is 00:05:56 If empty fills up your private place and nothing and no one can penetrate, if you got an inner vacancy, baby, then make it a place for me i mean private place and penetrate right there uh it's been the third verse is let me fuck your hole and you're like smoky please mr robinson i'm sorry has he had his medication today he's talking wild it feels like it really feels like he after a career of like love songs he was like my one note would be that they don't actually know what we're talking about with all this double double entendre shit like oh yeah we just need to make it you know a little
Starting point is 00:06:37 less subtextual and a little bit more overtly sexual i've been holding my tongue for too long. You know, Tears of a Clown was about getting blue balls. And they wanted me to change the lyrics. That's about thinking you're going to fuck and not fucking. One for me and one for me. I'm 83 years old. Fuck off. It's actually about begging for sex
Starting point is 00:07:00 and coercing a woman. Just look at the lyrics of Tears for a Clown. But don't let my glad expression give you the wrong impression. Really, I'm i'm sadder than sad you're gone and i'm hurting so bad because i'm horny okay but then they said like a clown i appear to be glad whatever it was supposed to be i'm harder than concrete but they didn't like that there are so many so the 70s was just such a wild time like the sexual politics of the 70s like the lyrics are just like of so many of these songs that are like classic love songs are just like men being like yeah we should fuck but like i don't really think we should like be in a relationship
Starting point is 00:07:38 necessarily also like you're 14 yeah is that weird is weird? Is that weird? I don't know. Not in this song. Yeah. Picked her up at junior high. You're like, what the fuck? She's just 16 years old. Right. Leave her alone.
Starting point is 00:07:55 What? Yeah. They say. Wait, new edition. Y'all got something to say about some of your songs? Nope. Nope.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Nope. Nope. Don't know nothing about her. Steven Crowder. Uh, there's a nice companion video that was released to the one uh we talked about on one of the trendings earlier in the week where he was like i guess they let women divorce you in texas which i guess i don't have to consent
Starting point is 00:08:18 to that someone can just up and want to improve their situation on their own. I guess that's how wacky the laws are. So his ex-wife dropped a ring camera video on the world, and it's just him telling his, she's visibly eight months pregnant, telling her to feed the dog medicine that is harmful to pregnant people, telling her to go get his steaks and wood chips at the grocery store or he won't let her drive the car until she starts doing her quote, wifely duties. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:53 So. Yeah. It's fucking, it's hard to watch. The emotional abuse that he's putting her through, you can just tell, as someone who's had a pregnant partner and knowing how taxing that is on you physically, emotionally to add some asshole being like, well, you can't use the fucking car until you do your wifely duties is like it was making me fucking like I wanted to fucking explode.
Starting point is 00:09:17 And the thing that he's talking about, he keeps saying this thing is like, put the gloves on, walk the dog, put the gloves on, walk the dog. And he's referencing. And this will happen in my house too, like our pets use like one of those topical flea medicines or whatever, you put the liquid on their neck and shit. And just out of good, safe practice, I was like, yeah, I don't handle any fucking chemicals. We don't know what the fuck is up.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Like, I'll do that shit. I'm not pregnant. But this guy apparently was saying like, get over it and wear gloves then, because you need to do that. And also, where's my stakes and on top of it too candace owens is now involved in this whole feud uh and it's just becoming a right old mess over there on the right wing so yeah it happened to the worst person
Starting point is 00:09:56 turns out these guys might be bad might be bad people he also uh his ex-wife is alleging that his surgery that he got like right when his kids were born was elective yeah he'd like just couldn't couldn't uh take the attention being off of what was his surgery exactly i don't know he he claimed it was like a chest surgery to fix a genetic defect and she's like actually actually he put a weird thing he looks like he's wearing a muscle suit in the video like he looks like he's wearing one of those like when you were in that batman costume yeah exactly that's what he looks like so i wouldn't be surprised if he's got some implants in there yeah it's gonna be a mess it's gonna be a mess i mean the fact that she has like i'm assuming she's the one that got
Starting point is 00:10:45 this footage i can only imagine what other things because he says something about he's like i'm gonna like destroy you or some shit he's he's threatening her and shit too apparently at the tail end of this video so yeah not not good not a fun one not good let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about sludge content. What is it? Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions, like how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary
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Starting point is 00:11:43 The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,
Starting point is 00:12:16 Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Thank you. a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:13:10 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:13:32 I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:13:54 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. I thought that was like a pretty good, that was like a local news tease right before the break. And after the break, sludge content your kids are
Starting point is 00:14:28 into it is it killing them so or is it the guns it's probably the sludge content we're not definitely a sludge well you know you can't really make money off of sludge content guns cost a lot of money so sludge content let's go sludge ra coming in so this is a genre of video that is just like sensory overload like multiple split screen videos it's taking it's you see a lot on tiktok people are talking about as a form of escapism that it gives solace in a very chaotic world like the comments on these so picture a video in our old people brain a video is usually just one video playing at once and these sludge content videos we're talking about fucking three sometimes five videos like mosaicked out on a single screen playing multiple
Starting point is 00:15:22 things at once so it'll be like someone playing gameplay like gameplay footage of subway surfers or like a am i the asshole reddit post being read by like a robot voice or people fucking scooping little ice creams or cutting soap and shit like this along with the scene from family guy to me it reads as pure chaos yeah but i can kind of understand how like as someone who also would do the thing where it's like i would listen to the radio watch tv and do my homework at the same time like right i kind of know about splitting your brain into three different places at once even though you're not taking it all in but like when you look at the actual comments on these videos and people say like like wholeheartedly not enough stimulation
Starting point is 00:16:05 or other people saying like my mind feels whole i'm like oh no now right i'm reluctant to say i'm like is this what our damn social media has done to our attention spans but what the i i i can't get down with this yeah this is i've apparently reached the uh stage of old age i'm not at the uh tell people how horny i am even though they visibly don't want to know about it yet but i am at the stage where new trends seem like they're designed to harm me because right right this is like an assault sensory assault although it was kind of intrigued like the video i watched had like a really in-depth long soliloquy on like catcher in the rye from american dad is that or is that a family guy is that like a real clip from family guy this family
Starting point is 00:16:59 guy just do long political diatribes now i guess every now and then i mean i've seen ones too where someone's reading marx right well over it and it was someone who was like like saying like i'm gonna use a sludge video content for good maybe the kids will start realizing like they can read up a little bit on marxism or some shit yeah uh and it was a sort of the same thing except the different like the most audible thing being this like excerpt but i don't know i think it speaks to like every generation we learn how to fuck around with media in our own way and this seems like this is firmly the tiktok generations thing of like you know there are always like wild ass chaotic videos on youtube especially like major league gaming parody videos
Starting point is 00:17:40 which gave away to a lot of like hyper fucking aggressive edits and videos that i i can see how this is just this the kids just dealing with the the pieces they got in front of them but yeah let us know is this is this because of our diminished attention spans is it because our world is so fraught with fucked up things that just overloading our senses with nine videos at once is like a way to kind of create some peace i don't know let us know in the comments well speaking of things that don't make sense to me uh rolling stone dropped a list of the top 20 social media influencers right now and i think it was super producer victor wanted to ask the question, can Jack name any of what Rolling Stone considers the 20 top? I think if you just dug deep,
Starting point is 00:18:29 I think you could name at least two. So I got, is Mr. Beast on there? Yep. Okay. Is Charlie D'Amelio? You know what? Judges?
Starting point is 00:18:42 Bing, bing, bing. Yes, the D'Amelio sisters are on there. We will take the D'Amelio sisters are on there that's all I got okay another person who is the one
Starting point is 00:18:50 who recently worked with Bud Light oh Seth Weathers what? oh no sorry that's the that's the reactionary right wing version of that yes Dylan Mulvaney Dylan Mulvaney
Starting point is 00:19:04 Dylan Mulvaney's on there i was like seth weathers okay one of them is a descendant of the assorted marriage between kim kardashian and kanye west wait what one of their offspring is uh yeah really north north yeah northwest is the influencer i didn't know oh yeah oh yeah because they had like a whole tiktok thing i think they stopped making them recently. But yeah, and then there's like people like Logan Paul. Oh, yeah. I know the Pauls.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Oh, yeah. Of course. Oh, the Pauls? LP dude? I knew about that guy. Of the Logan Pauls? Yes. What about Alex Cooper, Jack?
Starting point is 00:19:39 No clue. That sounds familiar. The host of the Call Her Daddy podcast. Okay. But another one I knew is amelia de moldenberg that's only because she does chicken shop date i used to watch those videos a lot and now she's blowing up have you seen chicken shop date i've not she's like this woman from the uk i think she's from london and she does like really awkward dates at a chicken shop if you remember
Starting point is 00:20:00 my money don't jiggle jiggle yes it folds okay yeah that's from that's from chicken shop date with emilia de moldenberg all right apparently severance is a mess behind the scenes did you watch it yeah yeah i i got through two episodes and then my apple plus thing ran out but then i realized i get it for free through my cell phone so maybe i'll start watching it again yeah it's intriguing and like it's like season one of lost. It's got all the fun mystery box stuff that I've yet to see a mystery box show pay off. But maybe this will be the one, baby. But apparently the two showrunners don't like each other. And one of them wanted to quit.
Starting point is 00:20:39 And then executive producer Ben Stiller convinced him to come back, which is kind of funny considering that is like basically what the show is like about people who keep trying to escape their workplace and end up being forced back. It's wild. Like Apple is leaking statements that Apple is disappointed and embarrassed about the whole thing. Oh, first time. First time working in making things like making content. But OK, yeah, I hear you.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I hear you. They should be embarrassed that like a lot of their shows are just straight up l's but hey some episodes reportedly cost 20 million dollars but i mean it makes sense this is the only one that really like connected right the only apple plus show that fully oh come on now let's not leave old now let's not leave old Sudeikis out of it oh right lasso baby yeah we'll say along that last
Starting point is 00:21:28 we'll say along that last that is going to do it for us this week we are back on Monday with the whole last episode of the show until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves get the vaccine don't do nothing about white
Starting point is 00:21:43 supremacy and we will talk to y'all on Monday bye each other. Be kind to yourselves. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will talk to y'all on Monday. Bye. Bye-bye. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour.
Starting point is 00:22:14 If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty. Founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

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