The Daily Zeitgeist - So ... UFOs Might Be Real. CDC Banned Words 12.18.17

Episode Date: December 19, 2017

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or wherever you get your podcasts. New episodes every Thursday. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 11, episode one of Das Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah. For December 18th, 2017. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack O'Brien of Tarth, and I am joined by

my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes, I'm going to do an a.k.a. today. Just want to shout out the Zeitgang, Lighter Meter, Foodmonger, Seth. Y'all are fucked, R-Lions. So many kind words and blessings, and I see y'all out there. Y'all are fucked. R-Lions. So many kind words and blessings. And I see y'all out there. Keep the kind words coming. It powers my ego.

Thank you so much. My AKA was courtesy of Daniel H. Brooks. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious Jocky's Neal. Hey. What's up, what's up, what's up? There he is. What's up, man? Shout out.

We're thrilled to have you. What's up, what's up, what's up? There he is. What's up, man? Chi-town. We're thrilled to have you. What's up? Jack East is one of three hosts of the upcoming Culture Kings podcast, which is basically the first podcast that we are spinning off from this comedy imprint of the HowStuffWorks podcast network, and we're super excited about it. Me too. I'm preemptively claiming it's my favorite podcast. Yeah.

Thank you. Mine too. You're going to love it. If you like it, just wait. Just wait, guys. We've been getting to listen to it for a couple weeks now. It is awesome. And now Jaquese is here.

You've heard pretty much all three people because you guys know Edgar. Edgar's been on a bunch. Carl was on last week. And now you've got Jaquese. The triangle's been completed. You're about to get to know Jack Keith better, because he's going to tell you something from his search history that is revealing about who he is as a human being. So I, for some reason, this popped in my head, the Martin TV show, and I wanted to see a clip from when he was old and yelling at Pam saying where's my mush and i couldn't find it and i google searched it for about an hour trying to look for this clip and i'm so disappointed you

couldn't find it i couldn't find it it's not on youtube i couldn't like google search it i can't even figure out which episode it came from do you remember do you guys remember this i mean i feel like i remember flash forwards where they're aging, for sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because also, like, Martin always had different characters or looks. But, yeah, the old man version of him and Gina. Wait, is it him and Gina? It's him and Pam because Gina and Martin had just broken up.

And so Martin was thinking, like, or Pam was like, your life is going to be crap. Right, right, right. And then he was like, somebody get the phone. And the phone wasn't ringing. He was just like, where's my bush? Hey, get the Zeitgang out there. Everybody out there, Zeitgang, come through. Help GQs find this clip, please.

If you have a box set of Martin, do they have that on DVD yet? They should. I know it's on TV now. It's on TV all the time. It's on TV. It's on one of the black channels, they just play old black TV shows. Uh,

it's on BET quite a bit. Oh no, you can get the whole thing for 49 99. Oh, all right. All right. Not doing an ad though. Blu-ray or DVD? Definitely DVD.

Definitely DVD. I don't think I want to see Martin in Blu-ray. Jacky's what's overrated. Uh, Ooh, I'm going to get some people coming at me now. You are star Wars. Yes, you are. Star Wars.

Ooh. Overfucking rated. Yes. That was a TIE fighter with my mouth. And I haven't seen this new Star Wars yet. And let me just say, Star Wars as a movie, there's some good movies. There's some good storylines, some good moments. But as this whole thing where people are like making theories and getting arguments with people and no, Princess Leia, when she was born, she was born here. And then she grew up and she was this strong.

I'm like, man, George Lucas just wrote a fucking movie. Right. The first one not known to be a trilogy. Right. Oh, shit. OK. And you and fans have taken it and put it on the life of his own. Lucas just wrote a fucking movie. Right. He wrote the first one not known to be a trilogy. Right. Oh, shit. Okay. And you and fans have taken it and put it on the life of its own. And he was like, well, I'll keep making it.

So to you, the thing that's overrated is the hype? Is the hype. Not the movie itself. The hype, the culture that's come from it. I don't get it. So you don't really fuck with Star Wars at all, really? I don't. Like, I appreciated them as movies.

Like, a few of them are like, oh, yeah, this is actually a good movie. Right. But the diving into, like, all this stuff that's not there, I'm just like, come on. Well, the expanded universe is very intriguing, I must say. I'm a huge Star Wars fan. Yeah, me too. And we, no, it's fine. I mean, like, everyone's entitled to their opinion.

And especially, like, after this weekend, Jack and I both saw Last Jedi. and we'll do a well i think we're going to do a special discussion on that later because we're not going to talk about i'm going to ruin it for anyone yeah because we want i get it not everyone's going to watch the first week so get your ass out there and watch it because pretty soon we will be dropping something right next week we're going to drop something where we talk about it uh i will say it wasn't what i expected i will not say whether that's good or bad uh and yeah i'll also say that uh just based on you know the thing that everybody's talking about over the weekend is like some people hated it a lot of people loved it um i feel like star wars has such a complex relationship for a lot of the reasons you're talking about, to people and like who they are that it like nobody has the same reaction.

And it's not because they're like wrong or right. It's just people are like so personally related to Star Wars. Like I've talked to 20 people about The Last Jedi and we all had completely different reactions for completely different reasons. Right. And like I've heard people have arguments like the Doughboys, one of my favorite podcasts, they're always arguing about The Force Awakens. And Mike Mitchell, who's one of the hosts, is convinced that everybody else just likes The Force Awakens because they're trying to like get on board with something or like yeah for some disingenuous reason and i just think we all

need to accept that we all just have such a personal and like deep-seated in our childhood relationship to star wars that like our response is going to be completely different and it can also be totally authentic it's just not going to be we're, and it can also be totally authentic. It's just not going to be – we're not watching the same movie, essentially, when we see Star Wars. Because it's bigger than just film. It's bigger than just a movie itself. It really is ingrained in whatever it is, the culture of your friends or just how you like movies and things like that.

It's gone beyond that. So that's why you're going to get so many different reviews because people relate to it in so many different ways. I go into films with a certain set of expectations based on what I as a fan wish the films could be based on like my opinions of the early films. It's just too complex that you can't go in and be like, oh, that was good. That was bad or whatever. It's so nuanced that, yeah, it's like almost like it's like your parents, right? Like you can't really – you have a relationship with your parents.

You see them a certain way. Exactly. Other people might see them a different way. Right. Because different. It's just it's hard to look at it. It's like watching home movies and expecting like people to like them as much as you or hate them as much as you. Right. It's just not going to happen. Yeah. I do agree. Fan theories can like ruin shit at the same time. There have been fan theories that like the Harry Potter fan that uh neville longbottom was secretly the chosen and that harry was just there as a distraction to distract voldemort from neville longbottom was like the dopest theory and like the coolest idea for the plot and like i'm convinced

that jk rowling was secretly going to write that And then the fan theory came out and she was like, shit, that's so good. Like, I can't I can't steal it. It's like and the same thing happened with the Twilight universe. Like the Twilight fans came up with like a dope fan theory where like she was secretly a werewolf. And it like made all these things that like didn't make sense in the movies start to make sense. And then the writer was like, no, it's not that. No, but that would be cool. I agree. Fan theories are dangerous, but like no it's not that no but that would be cool i agree fan theories are dangerous but i think it's because they're too good they're like

better than what the writers can come up with or like they get to a good idea before the writer gets to it and then the writer can't use it so yeah uh stop being so good at fan theories also shout out to all the people who are having straight up lightsaber fights in public this weekend. I saw. Like real fights? Well, no, like clearly just two guys who only like once every couple of years can bring out their light sticks and bang their plastic toys together in a parking lot. But these guys were doing like I saw a clip on Twitter, full blown, like choreography. These dudes were like in the lab being like, hey, man, when Last Jedi comes out, like it's lit in the parking lot like these guys are doing spins and shit it was i just you know i just love the enthusiasm yeah i let me let me let me just say just like fuck all of these it's about nerdy people playing swords

but like i love enthusiasm i grew up in theater i love it man i love i'm a disney fan i'm wearing a disney dope ass jacket right now yeah i get it i love that it like all right you guys heard about the thing where the amc burbank uh yeah the sound didn't come on and it was like a national emergency it was a national emergency and like people came out yelling and cursing and i'm like yeah i wouldn't have restarted the movie either for you motherfuckers like oh they just turned the sound on suddenly they're like oh you get sound now well no like something happened and then people ran out of the theater screaming like you had one job that does seem like we are human embodiments of the internet it is a big failure but it's just

like if you guys would have just came out like hey hey, we just want to let you know the movie. But see, that's what the thing is about Star Wars. It's not a movie. It's religion for some reason. So like, could you imagine? Yeah. Could I imagine if I went to church and the preacher's microphone was off? You have one job.

Yeah. Just flip out, fight the preacher. So what's something that's underrated? Christmas food in general. Okay. So here's what I mean by this. So what's something that's underrated? Christmas food in general. Okay. So here's what I mean by this. So Thanksgiving. I love Thanksgiving.

But Thanksgiving is one day. Right. Once the calendar turns and it hits December, you're going to so many holiday parties where people get potlucks and Christmas cookies and candies. You're going to have at least like three real Christmas meals. Right. That's just as in-depth as like a Thanksgiving meal. Oh, yeah. So like Christmas food in general is basically Thanksgiving for an entire month.

Yeah. And nobody talks about it. That's true. Nobody brings it up saying like, yeah, this is great. I love it. Give me some specifics. What's your favorite Christmas holiday food? My favorite Christmas holiday food, like good holiday ham. Yes. Oh, yes.

Oh, I feel like you get more of those pigs in a blankets during the Christmas season. So good. Like there's this family that I grew up with where they make these white chocolate chip dream cookies only during Christmas season. What's a dream cookie? It's basically like a cookie with... It's in the shape of a dream catcher? No, it's the shape of a cookie. Oh, okay.

You idiot. Just a reckless circle cookie. That you hold it above your head while you're sleeping? Yeah. And it has like orange peels in it and like white chocolate chips. Oh, wow. It's so damn good. They tell orphans to imagine their best dream

and then tell them it's not happening and they cry and they use their tears. That's how you get dreams. A little saltiness to it. A little sweet and salty. Where do you guys fall on eggnog? I love eggnog. I like eggnog.

I don't love it. My grandpa makes eggnog so well. It's a tradition in my family although i know it's it's a pretty it's a divisive issue it's so good but it's it's so also i was noticing on the starbucks menu that like the eggnog latte has 300 more calories than like any other like the pumpkin spice and stuff like eggnog is just pure like egg yolk and cream and sugar. It's like, I don't know. It's like the peak of human decadence. Yeah.

I think it'll go on like our headstone as a species as like the thing that like, yo, they invented eggnog. You know, they were drinking this. Yeah. They were drinking. They were just mainlining this. With alcohol. Right.

What the fuck? Yeah. That with alcohol. Yeah. Christmas food's good. You also had a second underrated. I do. What is it? I mean, I know what it is.

You know what it is. I had to do it for miles. Yes. Cruises. Oh! If you have not been on a cruise, you are missing out on some of the best times of your life i don't want to hear this so you just on the boat for water for five days shut up like it's it's amazing you get free food i mean you pay for it but yeah you don't have to pull your wallet out you don't have to

pull your wallet out you get to go different places like yeah you know you're only there for a day but you get to experience little slices of life it's a sampler place and you're worry-free right like you wake up first of all i'm the biggest fan of breakfast buffets of any human being on the planet yo like i will fucking cry in front of a breakfast buffet yeah and cruise ships every morning it's christmas because you go to the crazy breakfast buffet i went one on one cruise they had you could do um you could do a full-blown like breakfast, American breakfast. They had stuff like, when they say continental, different continents were represented. That, you can get drunk, and you're not paying.

You just give them your card. You just give them your card. And you don't have to drive anywhere. You just walk back to your room. And I don't day drink often. But when I do, it is at sea. And I've never felt extremely hungover on a cruise ship and i've never felt like extremely hung over on a cruise no it's just impossible it's just like this is life this is great and you get to walk out on

the deck like especially if i went on an alaskan cruise where you look out and you're seeing like beautiful nature yeah and then you can just chill with your martini it's like the fourth one before 10 a.m it's amazing looking out there and you're arguing with people. It's just great. Pena coladas. Also, Super Producer Nick just held up a thing, just ran on our parade. It said norovirus. Wow, cool.

Thanks. Yes, sure, they're like big cesspit petri dishes. But look, make it work for you. Yeah. Young people, I'm telling you, think it's an old people thing. Go with all your friends. It's like you're only paying like a set amount. You're not going to pay more.

Yeah. And you're going to love it because you'll all be together anyway. It's the best. I'm with you. I know Dan and Cody and Michael at Cracked like at one point went on like a cruise for people under like 30 or something. And they said it was like the best time they've ever had. Man, I go on ones with people over 80. And it's the best time.

I don't care. And everybody's so nice. Yeah. It feels like all the world problems. It's like, you know what? It's crazy. We're all human. I went on one basically in the lead up to the election last year.

It was right when the national convention happened and Trump got the nomination. And it was like, it was interesting because they were like, I'm with my family. We're all very liberal. And then we were seated next to like these people who are like all about Trump, which is fine. But like even then I heard the conversation. I overheard their conversation. I was like, OK, we're probably not ideologically a match. But then they're just kind of like, hey, this cruise ship, huh?

And like looking at my black family, like, OK, see, like they're just they kept it on the cruise. They didn't like, hey, how'd you get on here? Right. It's like it brings people. It brings people together. Yeah. All right. We're going to get in format in format guys we're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there changing the world uh trying to take the temperature of our global shared consciousness uh as a species uh the first thing we like to do uh before we get to the news stories

is ask our guest if there's a myth that the national global shared consciousness, the zeitgeist has wrong, like in our movies or just the things we generally believe. Just speak truth right now. Speak truth. Chicagoans do not go around eating deep dish pizza as their only piece of dish on a regular basis. Chicago pizza is not deep dish pizza. is a chicago thing right but when you ask a chicago and what chicago pizza is it is the thin crust tavern style square pizza that they cut up into squares and it has like a different flavor to it than just like a regular big slice of pizza like if you get from new y Right. But that's what we mean by Chicago.

If we say deep dish, we are talking specifically about deep dish. If we say Chicago pizza, we're talking about our thin crust version. That's interesting. I read an article that Minnesota was trying to claim that that's soda pizza. Minnesota pizza. Soda pizza? Is the deep dish? No, no, no.

It was the square cut thin crust right so it's like crackery uh it can be but not always it can be soft pizza uh i will debunk that because i was a tour guide in chicago for three years okay so i have no chicago history literally an ambassador uh and it was created in their tavern in the chicagoland area which makes sense because andrew zimmer and who does bizarre foods he's from minnesota and this food writer hit him up and was like, hey, what do you know about this? He goes, that's fucking bullshit. Yeah.

So he was, being a Minnesota food guy, he was like, no, no, no. That's not a thing. But it was interesting because that came up. Wait, so then, but if you say pizza in Chicago, if you just say let's get pizza, that means that pizza? Yes. It's not like let's go to Lou Malnati's? No.

Deep dish is a specific thing. It's a specific thing. Yeah. It's like a quiche. It is. It's not like let's go to lumal nadis no this is a specific thing it's a specific thing yeah if that's like a quiche it is wild i i love it i have a love-hate relationship with deep dish pizza because i love to eat pizza like in volume but deep dish i cannot get to more than three feet like on my third piece i'm fucking horizontal i think that is the human record is three pieces of deep dish pizza like in one sitting like yeah your heart just starts to hurt unless you are drunk yeah right yeah yeah in which case you eat an entire piece right well i'm glad i'm glad we cleared that up because yeah it's true i think especially in la what's funny i meet people from chicago and then i'm like hey have you had a have you

had masa out here which is like our like the best version of deep dish we have right like that's like the thing people always just think of for food wise is deep dish right and i know i'll be like tavern style is yeah chicago yeah deep if if we're going out like a year i'll probably go get deep dish four times right five times maybe a year in chicago that's not what we're eating for pizza it's a meal i love I love it. Changing the game. Dropping knowledge. Let's get into stories, guys. Up first, there was an Amtrak train that derailed

outside of Seattle. We still don't know what happened. There are reports that it might have been caused by an object on the track. Al-Qaeda, I think, in August, put out in their Al Qaeda Weekly or whatever their magazine is, just instructions on how to derail trains in America. I think they specifically were focusing on the East Coast Corridor.

But this seems like the sort of thing that they were talking about. So again, we don't know the details. But that's something that makes train travel seem much more fragile and prone to accidents than you would expect. So, you know, we'll keep an eye on that. And I mean, the events of this morning and the weekend sort of reminded usading delays and things to just go all sorts of haywire across the world. But yeah, I mean, we've been talking about how we need to invest in infrastructure for a long time. Trump laid out his vision for a $1 trillion infrastructure package back in May, but that did not happen.

The budget hocks. The wall became more important. That turned into a tax giveaway. Right, yeah. But I'm sure all those corporations who are getting a tax rebate are going to invest that in fixing our train tracks and roads and power infrastructure. Try to trickle down, baby. So, yeah, we'll see how that story develops. But yeah, you know, thoughts are

with the people who are on that train and who were on the highway that it derailed onto. And then just briefly, we wanted to talk about the CDC, who released a list of words that were not to be used in any papers or, you papers or reports that they filed this year. And it's interesting, the sorts of words that you would think that they would need to use. Oh, really? Oh, I thought they were very offensive. Right, yeah. When I read the words, I'm like, good, let's do away with these words.

So on the list, diversity. Oh, I'm leaving fetus fuck no transgender vulnerable vulnerable that's just a word come on man because i'm a man yeah exactly say that around here vulnerability nowhere near here man that's so i'm like transparently insecure we will not talk about vulnerability i'm lifting 50 pound weights right now. The craziest one, science-based and evidence-based may not be used. We're legit in the post-truth era. And for science-based and evidence-based, in addition to a couple others, they gave examples of what you should say instead. And for science-based, they suggested CDC bases its recommendations on science in consideration with community standards and wishes.

Wow. Just insane. You know why? Because science is so true that they have to obscure that because it's almost like a trump card. You're like, well, science-based evidence shows because you can't argue with that. So now it's like, let's make it all weird. So it's like nebulous now. Let's make it like it's an opinion.

Well, what's crazy, too, is when you about like the kinds of shit that the cdc works on like for example like uh the national center for hiv aids viral hepatitis std and tb prevention they're working on ways to prevent hiv among transgender people and reduce health disparities so that's going to complicate their work uh and also the cdc's work on birth defects caused by zika virus includes research on fetuses so i mean a lot of people are saying like this is more of like a win for the evangelical community yeah because it completely like obscures this idea like they're apparently they're anti-choice sites that have started pushing like a theory uh that zika doesn't even cause microcephaly or other birth defects because they don't want women to have abortions.

It's fucking wild. But apparently the CDC, the head of the CDC came out and basically said, didn't deny that these, like, words were banned, but just sort of said, like, look, we'll always be, like, science will be the foundation for all of our research, blah, blah, blah. I mean, she kind of came out and directly gave a fuck you to like in the face of this memo she said the cdc remains committed to our public health mission as a science and evidence-based institution yeah she said it she used the she used the bad words also in her memo to her staff. I don't like science, science based, evidence based, as fucked up as that is like that tracks. I can see how some ignorant people like. All right.

Don't say I don't get how diversity tracks or vulnerable tracks. Well, that means it would favor like the majority of the country, which would be white. I mean, like, yeah, vulnerable communities typically are, you know, marginalized groups. Marginalized, yeah. Yeah. Vulnerable, you know, like in diversity would mean introducing other. Yeah. So, I mean, it feels like a.

See, Jack, if you understood that there was a white genocide taking place, then you might understand the situation we're in here. Your white genocide tattoo is healing really nicely. I must say. It's looking really good. The shading on that is beautiful. All right,

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So I want to talk about something that we've generally steered clear of on the daily zeitgeist because... Steered clear of. It's controversial. It is controversial, and it also kind of makes you sound like a crazy person. Wait, what do you mean, Jack? We're talking, of course, about science-based... No, we're talking, of course, about science-based. No, we're talking about UFOs.

They're. Yeah. So we're just going to have to keep this playing. That's my conspiracy theory music. You're just going to have to let it ride for this entire segment. Because so there was a New York Times article and a Politico article over the weekend that were basically reporting on the same thing. This dude who used to run a very secretive branch of the Department of Defense. Dude, the Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program. Right.

Which, yeah, that sounds like we're studying we're studying Russian stealth bombers or something like that. By not just, you know, our current technology, but just our understanding of aerodynamics and like how things move through air. They were just like that. That shouldn't be possible. We actually have audio from one of the transmissions. This is a pilot just being sort of awestruck at this thing. He witnessed they call it the Tic Tac because it's shaped like a Tic Tac. Is he flying with another pilot or something? You're tracking this object?

So they're flying, and they just see this object that's the shape of a Tic Tac. Like, on the outside, you don't see any, like, windows or anything. It's just a smooth-ass oblong shape. It's covered. Yeah. It's just a – looks like a giant Tic Tac. On his screen, right. And it's covered. Yeah. It's just a, looks like a giant tic-tac. On his screen, right. And it's moving.

Like, when you look at the video, it's like, yeah, that seems weird, but you can't quite appreciate how weird it is because, you know, it's being shot from an also moving plane. But then at a certain point, it just, like, turns, and it's like, what the fuck was that? Like, that can't have existed in reality but uh yeah let's play it let's play the audio real quick there's a whole fleet of them look on the asa my gosh they're all going against the wind the wind's 120 knots to the west like these these are military people yeah they're like look at that thing dude that stuff is. It's not a thing.

I don't understand. Well, if there's, like, another thing, it's rotating. Yeah, it just starts rotating. That's the part where he goes, look at that thing again, because it just starts rotating in the middle of the air. When he's like, my God. You could tell that's someone dealing with, like, trying to process, like, am I just, I think we're straight up looking at a UFO. Yeah, these are people who, like, usually communicate in, like, Bravo 9 or, like, you know, just, like, technical jargon because you're not supposed to say shit like, my God, on the air. Like, it's fucking, like, you're, you know, a teenager or something.

So this dude came out and was like, there's a lot of shit like this there's you know one time a pilot saw something off the coast of san diego it was just hovering above the ocean and the ocean seemed to be boiling underneath it and uh they couldn't explain what it was and these things just like flit off like at at a speed that seems impossible. And like, you can't say anything about it. Um, well, it's wild to like,

when you think about why he came out like with it too, because he felt like it was being marginalized. Like this research wasn't being taken seriously, but like by the department of defense. Right. And then when you have that many pilots, like seeing it, you know,

I think he was saying like in the, in the daily this morning on the podcast was saying like, you know, it's recently like a tipping point with like eyewitnesses now. Right. It's hard to just be like, nah, nah, ain't nothing out there. Right. They can't they can't just say, no, nobody's.

He's crazy. Don't worry about it. They got to get the neutralizer out now. And the thing. The neuralizer. The neuralizer. Right. The thing he was saying is, you know, if we were seeing russian aircraft or you know any other nation's

aircraft doing the things these these aircraft are doing like just hovering over apparently they seem to hang out around uh nuclear facilities uh if we were seeing enemy or just foreign national like aircraft doing those things it would be all over the news everybody would be freaking out right but because you know it's classified and because i guess they don't want people to freak out or something uh you know they have just been completely ignoring it he was like it you just hear crickets um and it's interesting because so usually the the thing that was really different about this was usually the people who I hear talk about UFOs are people who wouldn't have any cause to know any better than me. Like they're just like, oh, you just don't know, man.

It's like, well, I lived in the desert for 40 years. Like Moses. Right. I'm saying things. And like this. So we've got this guy who headed up a branch of the Department of Defense. And obviously, like he wasn't just recruited from coast to coast a.m. Like he's a he's a actual, you know, like military professional who, by the way, during his interview with The New York Times, he like sat with his back to a wall to make sure nobody came in and was like looking over his shoulder the whole time. But you also have just all these pilots who apparently it's like sort of an open secret in the aviation industry. So there's this

aviation billionaire who I guess because he's spoken to enough pilots or maybe because of personal experiences like, yeah, there's definitely aliens. They're definitely visiting us. And, you know, again, a person who is more trustworthy than anyone you usually see on the news talking about UFOs being out there. And he convinced former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid at the time he was the Senate Majority Leader to, you know, get this program started. And it ended up sort of fizzling out, according to the Politico reporting. But it it's pretty remarkable. And it seems like it fizzled out more from want of, you know, people acknowledging what was going on more than from want of like they're actually being evidence

why is it that the navy pilots always get to see the coolest shit i feel like every like from even my earliest like times reading conspiracy theory books it's always someone like you know these pilots these pilots yeah something right i guess because you're in the air you're in the air so you see you see i guess i asked my own question but i guess in my thing i was like why can't i just be at north hollywood rec center right shooting in the thing, I was like, why can't I just be at North Hollywood Rec Center? Right. Shooting in the gym. So, I mean, this is the thing.

So the things that make sense to me about these, like if I'm thinking from the alien's point of view. Yes, please. Tell us. Sentence that I never thought I'd be saying. You know, it's always people in super, you know, fast military aircraft or, you know, planes. So they're up above where, you know, it would be easier to see things that were hiding from people on the surface of the planet. Right. You also hear a lot of sightings happening out in the deserts, which, again, would be easier to get away with because fewer people out there.

So if you had to do shit, you would want to do it there. And then the other thing, you saw a lot of UFO reports during World War II. And so, like, if you were monitoring a species from a distance, like, that would be a flare-up that you would want to keep an eye on, is like, oh, these people might just murk themselves as a species. They are fucking up down there. They are destroying the planet destroying this might be it um and i just wonder like if it's world war ii and then now they're like interested in our nuclear facilities like trump yeah i don't know or

they're just like uh do they know what they're fucking with just having that near where they live right clearly we haven't learned our. So you're saying you think there are like aliens above the level where our eyes can see just watching us. Yeah. Or like, yeah, they they have like really sophisticated monitoring. You know, this the question I've always heard that I still haven't heard a satisfactory answer for is, you know, we had all these reports of UFOs. is we had all these reports of UFOs, but now that every single person has a camera with them at all times, we haven't seen any perfect evidence of a UFO. That's true.

That seems weird to me. But, I mean, if these people are saying they're seeing things from planes and aviation people are the only ones who notice it, then maybe that's just where they hang out is, like, in the upper atmosphere. Because that – the video from that sort of transmission we heard from those fighter jet pilots, that definitely looks like some weird shit. Like, that's sort of oddly just kind of floating through the sky. Like, it just moves how it wants to. Right. Exactly.

And I – yeah. Yeah, and I guess that really brings – I mean it's crazy that this comes out because I think most people believe if you look at science enough that how could Earth be the only planet that has life on it, intelligent life on it considering that the universe is constantly expanding. There's like some – however many sextillion stars observable that one of those could be the son of another solar system. I mean, just to see that we're reaching a point where, like, people are leaving the DOD to talk about this, it kind of makes my skin crawl a little bit because I'm like, oh, God. Like, I knew I always wanted to hear this, but now I'm like, oh. It's getting close. It's getting close. We're beyond the point of just me being, like, the cool dude who's really high at the party. You know how many stars are out there. You think we're the only ones.

Yeah. So. I don't understand why. You know how many stars are out there you think we're the only ones? Yeah. So. I don't understand why. Like, in terms of, like, media and, like, news traveling fast, it's a very small amount of time in our humanity.

Right. So I can only imagine what people were seeing before, like, news traveled as fast as it did. But I don't understand why, like, because I believe it, too. We can't be the only life in this universe. Why they hiding i don't get why they're hiding like if you want something that'll bring everybody together white people black people americans russians yep put some shit from out of space on this planet and everybody be like you know what we together fighting over that earth flag but their interests their interests wouldn't be uniting us. Like, they don't give a shit about us.

We will unite ourselves. They would, like, come up off that water. I still like the Star Trek theory that they're just waiting for us to achieve a sophisticated enough level where they're like, all right, they're ready. Okay, so there's, like, 20 different species of us. Like, you guys weren't ready before, but now you seem sophisticated enough to... I mean, we barely... They want to fight. Right.

Or, yeah. They want a fair fight. Right, yeah, yeah. They're just like, nah, we don't have to worry about these people. I mean, this is also like the one thing I feel like that is a distraction enough for Trump that he could really legitimately hide behind this. He's like, whoa, Russia probe. My man, we got aliens, okay?

Don't worry if I colluded. We got fucking aliens. Could you imagine if i colluded could you fucking aliens could you imagine if this is when the aliens decide to come fuck with us like come on please no uh yeah i mean i've always it's interesting because our existence as a species when you hear about people talk about it like scientists talk about it in terms of the universe's lifespan. It's just a blink. And so I've always had a hard time wrapping my mind around the idea that, you know, our blink would overlap with the blink of another species that was like reaching a like high enough level that they could travel wherever they wanted. But I mean, our engineer, Nick, was pointing out that that assumes that their species

hasn't been around for you know two million years and figured out a technology for sustaining life and you know so my my theory is bullshit i've always thought first contact would happen with like us encountering like a a record of a civilization that has died off or something that but they used to live here right that no not they used to live here that lived somewhere else and just like sent something out into the universe like a pompeii of the universe yeah yeah exactly like a pompeii of another species because like i don't know it's harder for a life form to survive than record of a life form but that's also assuming that you know that they're as prone to fuck-ups as we are like if they're coming over

to see world war ii maybe they're just like why are they doing this maybe are they like killing each other are we like the real housewives of the universe where people just watch and go yo y'all want to see a mess hop on board about to go to earth watch these people not know how to act and fuck up their own planet it's crazy you thought You thought we had problems? Yeah. Wait till you go to Earth. Turn the channel 18,000 million. Right. Watch this Earth. Just eating popcorn like, oh, shit.

Atomic bomb. Whoa. This Eisenhower dude is crazy. So hopefully you guys don't think we're crazy at this point. But go check out the New York Times article. Go check out the Politico article. It's really compelling stuff, even if you don't believe in it. I woke up this morning not thinking that we had had contact with an alien species, and now I'm at least less certain of that fact.

So it's probably worth checking out, regardless of what you believe. Could you imagine, though, this is just the most classified shit? Because I refuse to believe that only our pilots are seeing it. You know like a Russian fighter would be like, yo, shoot that shit down. Right. Like let's see what's up. Or like our other – do other countries have their versions of these programs too where they're like, don't tell anybody. Like we can't tell anybody.

Right. It's – I don't know. anybody right it's and what if they what if they've reverse engineered it more than us like that's a question that i think you know they they mentioned the idea that we're trying to reverse engineer some of that shit and it's just not possible based on what we know how to do because all ufo stories are that we know are from people who live here in the u.s right yeah i feel like that it's all or at least mean, they're probably just more in our consciousness because it's in our country,

but I'm sure to our international audience, hit us with alien stories from whatever your country is so we can start, you know, cross-referencing. I mean, there's that picture of the Madonna

from the Renaissance Italy where there's just like a UFO in the background that, I'm not going to lie, kind of looks like a Tic Tac, you guys. Wait, what? Yeah, there's a painting of, not Madonna from the 80s, Miles.

Is that what you thought? Yeah, that's what I thought. Or Cone Bra. No, a painting of the Virgin Mary. And then there's like a tiny little speck in the back that when you zoom in, it looks like a UFO. It looks like an amoeba. Yeah, it's weird.

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I still pronounce it as Bueller, Mueller. It's all up to you. Mueller. However, the Mueller is in the eye of the beholder. But so where do these theories come from, Miles? So it looks like it's a very coordinated attack from some GOP hack congressman and a lot of Fox News personalities that are really trying to fucking push all these kinds of things, whether it's— The media wing of the Trump White House. Yeah, exactly, or state-run media, Fox News, your massive propaganda channel, to point out that like one of the things is like, oh, the Clinton for I think there was like an attack ad going out on Fox of like these like agents that worked on it who are talking spicy about Trump, like in the election, not during like this probe, trying to discredit a lot of the investigation to basically like sow the seeds and build some kind of wave or sentiment that Mueller should be fired and the probe and special counsel should be ended. Especially this weekend, one of the biggest ones was the idea of all these emails

from the transition team that Mueller got a hold of. And suddenly, I guess the Trump team didn't know because during the questioning, they brought up emails and they were kind of like, oh, y'all got those emails? And now they're trying to be like, you need to give those back. You got those illegally or whatever attorney client privilege they keep calling attorney client privilege it's like is that the only thing you know about the law right exactly or even when it's like oh you know the biggest thing is that most people in the government are saying like this is part of public record like you can't there's no expectation that these are private. B, he got all those emails with the permission of like all the appropriate parties involved,

use the appropriate criminal processes to get them. And then another person would be like, oh, well, you know, there's like executive privilege because there's the transition team. But it's like, fam, executive privilege applies when you become the executive, not the transition. Barack Obama is the executive during that time. You all are just the transition team. So there's not even that. Like they have a lot of real – these arguments don't really stack up.

Yeah, and I mean Trump's lawyers have been up to this point super confident. It's been the one thing that I've been like, well, maybe there is nothing there because Ty Cobb is sitting there twiddling his weird mustache and just being like, you know, there's there's nothing here. Sure. We'll give you everything. The fact that that that they were like, oh, you have those emails like. Yeah. Oh, no. Oh, right. But he didn't mean everything. Yeah. I mean, I've heard this described by a media analyst as sort of the Trump administration putting out weather balloons to see like how people will respond to the idea of him firing Mueller. And, you know, this seemed like, you know, he's done that in the past when I think Gingrich and a couple other stooges like came out

and were like, yeah, he should fire Mueller. And it was just like a little blip, like three different people who were Trump supporters came out and like put yeah we're uh he should fire muller and it was just like a little blip like three different people who were trump supporters came out and like put that out there on fox and then you didn't really hear about it some more that much because it was like not taken seriously and now it was just like a barrage of that same thing and i feel like it's them once again just being like is this okay are you guys gonna freak out because it's we fire this and you know look we pointed this out a couple weeks ago we said the rhetoric was getting spicy and now like again this weekend it was full frontal attack on this thing uh and we we have a clip of just some of like think progress put together like a sort of montage of fox news and gop lawmakers that are really trying to stoke the flames of the fire Mueller movement.

So we kind of picked some of the better bits out of that. No one on Mueller's team likes Trump. We already knew that. I don't know of any experience in American history where you have the scale of abuse of power that we're seeing right now. This is disgusting, unaccountable bias. Robert Mueller has assembled

the most partisan special counsel in history. It needs to be cleansed of individuals who should not just be fired, but who need to be taken out in handcuffs. How, with a straight face, can you say that this group of Democrat partisans

are unbiased and will give President Trump a fair shake? Where the real investigation should be into the highly corrupt and highly politicized DOJ, FBI, and even our intelligence community. It's a smoking gun proof that Mueller's probe is a total political sham. It's a witch hunt. It needs to be shut down immediately if we believe in the rule of law and our constitution. Okay.

I've never heard so many like their voices even sound like there's some lion racist pieces of shit uh this is crazy by taking out in handcuffs she of course means putting handcuffs and shot in the back of the head right yeah right exactly yes summarily executed right street um i mean look Judge Pirro, just keep speeding on the highway. Like, you know, stop commenting on the rule of law. So who was that again? Judge Jeanine Pirro. Okay.

The one who, you know, she tried to prosecute Robert Durst back in the day. Uh-huh. But now was like a TV judge and then is like now the biggest Trump rider ever. Like saying, I think he just DMs her. She's so far out there that she had a November 1st meeting with Trump in the White House. And she was talking about, I think, Uranium One or whatever, the Hillary Clinton conspiracy theory where she supposedly gave Russia control of part of the of the u.s uranium that was what she was purportedly going to talk about and then she's launched into stuff about muller and comey and

even trump like after an hour was just like oh just like can somebody get her out of here oh really yeah she she gets private conversations with the president like she's like anybody from Fox News who he watches, I'm sure. Isn't there his personal buddy? But, yeah, it's wild to think that, you know, they want to use this rule of law argument when this whole investigation is going to boil down to like if the rule of law will be respected in the country. Right. Because this is all about whether the president is higher or above the law, which he is not. is higher or above the law which he is not right and by beginning to like meddle with this investigation that is time after time like showing new things that at very least are very troubling like no matter how intense you want to look at it but the fact of the matter is like foreign country was fucking with our democracy it's just very scary because if he does dismantle this special

council that's step one of us like really kind of losing ourselves. I mean, losing what the country is about. He's banking on the fact that we as people have as short of an intention span. Right. That he does. Like the fact like when the whole like with the whole grab him by the pussy thing came out. And then like recently he was like, he's floating the idea that, well,

maybe those tapes were altered. Like fool. Oh, a year ago you were like, yeah, I said it. I'm sorry. And now a year later,

cause he's just like, well, maybe they forgot. Well, maybe everyone is senile like me. Yeah. It's insane. So if he fires Mueller,

Mueller, whatever his name is, uh, Mula, Mula, if he fires the fabulous M Mueller, Mueller, whatever his name is, Mueller, if he fires the fabulous Mueller, he's banking on the fact that they might be outraged for a couple of weeks. Yeah, but they'll get over it. Kind of like they got over it. Call me because ain't nobody talking about that no more. Yeah, but that but see, that led to this mess. So now he's got it.

That's the response. And again, luckily, like he can't fire him legally, right? Rod Rosenstein is the only person who could technically fire him. So he would have to fire Rod Rosenstein. He would have to do a Nixon-style Saturday Night Massacre where he's like, you're going to fire Mueller? He'll be like, no, I'm going to resign. And he's like, all right, I'm promoting you. You're in the game.

You're point guard. You're starting. Can you fire Mueller? And they're like, no, I'm going to resign. And again, this happened with Nixon when he tried to kill the watergate shit and it just ends up like you'll he'll eventually find some hack right be like yeah hell yeah does it mean i'm like i'm the new attorney general uh nixon tried to stop the watergate investigation and that's actually what got him impeached was yeah basically people being like yo that just makes you look

straight up so guilty yeah um and i do think, I mean, I have enough respect for the intelligence of people who don't work at Fox News, but who are on the right. That I think even if you don't believe that there's anything there for this investigation to uncover, you still want to see it go to its conclusion to prove that. You don't want to see it killed and make everybody think. I mean, at the same time, it does seem like the people who support Trump are mainly motivated by seeing him do anything that will enrage the left. And this would be like the number one thing he could do to enrage the left. So I don't know. Let's see.

The one thing I heard over the weekend that made me think he might not fire him is somebody asked him, are you planning on firing Mueller? And he said no. And even though he isn't always completely 100% truthful, it does seem like the sort of thing he wouldn't say if he was planning on it just because he hates to be wrong so much. He would never be like, oh, I guess I changed my mind. That seems like too much for him to admit that he had something wrong. I mean, I'm not going to put anything past this, dude. Yeah.

Because it looks like it's getting hotter and hotter. And like the rumors of Jared is up next to get a little indictment. So what do you think would happen? Like, would there be riots? Would there be riots? I mean, I think. If he fired Mueller? If he fired Mueller.

I mean, again, this weekend, like everybody was like, this is what we need to do because this will trigger a constitutional crisis. Right. And we will need to go into the streets and make people, like, know that we are out here and we see what's going on, which is true. I mean, I would go out there and be like, we see what's happening. I'm not going to really speculate. I'd rather not live in a reality where I have to think about him completely acting like he's a dictator that's above the law. Right. Because that would be more troubling to me than whatever the fallout is.

I'm like, oh, wow. This dude, because his favorite list of leaders are Xi Jinping, Erdogan, and fucking Putin, Duterte. Right. The posters on his walls are not basketball players. They're authoritarian. Yeah, they're just dictators. I mean, he wants unilateral power. Like even in the beginning of his presidency, he said, and a lot of people probably forgot about this.

He said, you know, I'm exploring. Maybe I can pardon myself. You remember that? Yeah. So he wants the complete power.accountable unaccountable he's just looking at those other guys and like damn y'all get to just fucking tell everybody what to do in your country oh how do i do that here guys how do i do that here right it's a great white hope uh all right this has been a blast, Jacquees, having you. Yeah, thank you, guys.

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