The Daily Zeitgeist - Social Media Baby Names, The Real Tucker Carlson 05.04.23

Episode Date: May 4, 2023

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Hello, the internet and welcome to this episode of... It's your production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's crazy that we've done this show

thousands of times. I've, past couple days, I've taken my eyes off of the text and forgotten a whole chunk of the first sentence.

About saying the season and the episode. Yeah, the season and the episode. I was just like, this episode. Anyways, it's Thursday, May 4th, 2023. Yeah.

May the 4th be with you. May the 4th be with you. Yeah. And also with you. Yeah. And with your spirit. His mercy endureth forever. Thanks be to George Lucas.

Also National Self-Employed Day, World Password Day, Bird Day. Bird Day. Also National Candied Orange Peel Day, World Password Day, Bird Day. Bird Day. Also National Candied Orange Peel Day. Who the fuck is that? Okay, whatever. I'm going to have to get into that. National Candied Orange. Big National Candied Orange Peel having their way with us again.

Who did that? Is that just Big Orange's way to be like, how can we take the refuse from our industry and then give it a second life? Yeah. It feels like that or somebody who's really into candied orange peels and has a personality disorder and was just like, nobody gives me my propers when it comes to how good these damn things are. I don't, yeah.

I don't know. For whatever, any kind of citrus peel type candy, I'm like, this is absolutely not for me. But anyway, if it's for you then hey get down today it's your day tricking p tricking me into thinking my garnish is edible for years you ever had like one of those ones that's like candied like flash you know it's just like super hard like slices of lemon or lime or orange oh you try and it, and you might as well be chewing a piece of wax fruit.

Yeah, I do it all the time. It's one of my favorite pastimes. You guys ever seen this? You heard about this? My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Hey, Chucky, you're the king. You're the king. It's your new thing.

Hey, Chucky. Hey, hey. Hey, hey, Chucky. Oh, Chucky, you're so lucky. You're the king to be. You take me by the heart, pledging to you on TV. Oh, Chucky, you're so lucky, sovereign of the land. Getting coronated using tickets on demand.

That is courtesy of Rezik on the Discord. Damn. He had a part after that that I think, like, I just don't know the song well enough. And I didn't do the work to know what I was supposed to do after that. But thank you to Rezik. Great work in honor of our royal coronation coming up in mere days. Yeah. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, don't worry about me.

It's Miles Gray, the Lord of Lancashire, the true king of the North Hollywood. Okay. Great to be here. Thank you so much for having me. Jack, thanks so much for having me. Great to be here. You're welcome. I've been waiting for you to thank me for having you on our show.

I know. People have been handing me notes. They're like, Jack would really like it. He would really appreciate it. This time, maybe this time, I'm like, okay, I'll throw him a bone. Show a little fucking gratitude. Yeah, man. And I will do the homage of the people later for you, Jack, where I will swear fealty to you.

Well. In the podcast domain. Miles, we are be joined in our third third seat by someone who this that was probably must be excited about the what is it the fealty of the people the homage of peers homage of the people homage of the people it's a film programmer, a podcast host, and an author of the upcoming book, Unlikable Female Characters, The Women Pop Culture Wants You to Hate. It's Anna Bogutska! Anna!

Welcome. I'm terrified. Terrified, guys. Thank you so much for having me. Oh, thank you for being here. And you are in London. I am indeed. How are you preparing for His Royal Highness's Royal Coronation?

Well, I am preparing to avoid central London during that entire day. Okay. I'm prepared to be in hiding for that day, trying to make sure to avoid the monarchists on my way around town. Yeah. It can be a little overwhelming. I get it. To just like see God's one true big boy on Earth.

Yeah. One true representative here on Earth. Yeah. I get it. You'd want to kind of hide. Let it be a slow kind of wash over you. I know. You know what?

I somehow and always end up in countries where there's royal families still pottering around. And I don't know how I've managed to do that in my lifetime. Wait, walk us through. I grew up in Spain where there's a royal family, right? They don't really do much, but they're there. They provide some gossip. And then I moved to London. Obviously, there's a big monarchy in the UK.

So now I'm just kind of mildly entertained by them. But it's the pageantry, man. I was amused by it at first. And now I'm like, you know what? Appointments are being canceled. Stuff's not happening. Yeah, we get a bang holiday. But I'm like, I'm a freelancer i'm still gonna

have to work on monday right i'm not like going in to salute the new king because right someone has to work well that's interesting you brought up españa because jack and i both have been there you know we're very cultured people yes we're about to grow up oh so i grew up in barcelona and i lived in madrid before moving there where did you guys go i lived in madrid for oh did you yeah i did oh whereabouts like in the city in the city i was 16 years old and don't remember much of it other than that uh the 1996 nba playoffs were were on at that time and so i was watching that with the Spanish commentary. And that was a blast.

I do remember it was a beautiful city, had an amazing time, but I don't remember anything about the geography whatsoever. That means it's a good time. Still the best city in the world, man. If you go again, just incredible. In the summer, I was in Barcelona for a little bit. Fantastic. Yeah.

Love Catalonia. I love the energy of the Catalonian people out there. And it just feels like LA to me because it's like a beach town. I'm more in the sense of like the energy, like California type. Like people are a little more laid back. But then when I went to Madrid, felt a little more like you're in the city now. I was staying in Malasagna when I was in Madrid. I love Malasagna. That's so weird. I always felt the opposite. I was staying in Malasaña when I was in Madrid. I love Malasaña.

That's so weird. I always felt the opposite. I've never been to LA, though. I might go this fall. But I've always felt, I don't know, Barcelona was a bit more uptight, whereas Madrid was much more chill. But maybe that's also because I went to uni there. That might be my perspective just as a tourist who's on holiday and just drinking a ton. I'm like, oh, this place is so laid back.

Next time you're in Madrid or if you're ever in Madrid or Barcelona, let me know. I've got all the best places mapped out. Okay, perfect. You will not be sober for the entire time you're there. Oh, perfect. I love that. I love that. be sober for the entire time you're there.

Oh, perfect. I love that. I love that. Also, ahead of its time in that I started seeing Nazis for the first time there five years before they started appearing in the United States. There were swastikas everywhere. At least around the places that I was. Where were you hanging out? Who were you hanging out

with? I was not expecting that. In Madrid? There's just a public park where all the kids were smoking hash and hanging out on a Friday night. And there was like a gang of skinheads there. And I was like, man, that's real. And then sure enough, a sign of things to come for the rest of the world. Right here in our own backyard. Hey, who knew?

They've been here though, to be fair. Yes, they have. All right, Anna, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things that we're talking about today. We're going to talk about, we found out a little bit more, maybe, on why Tucker got fired. According to Fox, they dropped a new piece of evidence into the picture. I'd say it's an interesting piece of evidence. It doesn't change what I think about Tucker Carlson,

but it does confirm some suspicions, I think, for me. We'll talk about McDonald's child labor violations, that being a real thing that is happening with McDonald's. Working at McDonald's in America. Working at the fryer at 2 a.m. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about baby names. Miles, you just went through it. It reminded me of the process of going through the naming of a baby.

And apparently the game has changed in the five years since I've been out. Yeah. So we'll talk about that we might even talk about why utah people are having trouble jacking off today all of that plenty more but first anna and by the way too so did i pronounce your name right is it bagutska it's bucket sky it's bug at sky okay you learned you can't be You're like, I learned something new about pronunciations. I was like, I don't know if that's... I listened to your last episode of Final Girls.

And... Yeah. I, for fucking some reason, I heard it. Like, I listened back to it five times. And maybe you just... Maybe it was like a weird glitch. Hey, she's not fucking with you, Jack. Bogotskaya.

Okay. Yeah. Don't worry about it. it's been pronounced in so many different ways it's so bogus guy uh i was gonna be like everybody just so you know it's spelled differently than it's pronounced it's spelled bogus guy uh so go google find the book anyways uh leave it all in it's a silent silent why. Yeah, I don't know. I guess I can't trust the podcast app. Anna, we do like to ask our guests,

what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I mean, I considered this for so long. You have no idea how deep I went into my own search history for this show. But honestly, the last 10 to 15 searches have been different iterations of slutty little knees. So there you have it.

There he is. Pedro. I was, yeah. But mostly actually, it wasn't actually even the pictures. It was trying to find who had coined the term slutty little knees. Going deep into Twitter being like what depraved mind, depraved and brilliant

mind coined the term slutty little knees and how did they hit it? Poetic soul. I know. It's my people. We came into it. Oh you did? You found out you did it? We were talking about this with the, there was somebody who had a full body orgasm during a

la philharmonic performance and we were like man like whoever tweeted okay i just heard someone have a full body orgasm that was the headline for everyone it was just like the anonymous authorship of the internet like one person came up with that and every fucking major media outlet went with that wording uh but slutty little knees is is perfection where did it come from yeah who's the author so this is a oh god i went through like the esquire videos the tiktok rabbit hole but i think it was this person on Twitter, Joel's guitar. Their description is

full-time slut for Joel Miller, which I also think is a great profession. That's the origin point. It's one thing about Pedro Pascal is that he will pop his slutty little knee out. Yes. Wow.

So this is in reference to Pedro Pascal's metropolitan gallivant outfit, wherein he's wearing shorts with his long red coat, slutty little knees, hiked up socks, looking good. Wait, who's the, who who said can you repeat the quote joel's guitar but it's referencing his character in last of us oh the name was his character in last of us yeah but it's also it's about the last of us and the mandalorian he has this go-to pose where he pops his knee out and looks pensively into the into the distance yeah love that love that love that knee love to see more you know more like knee positive content

out there on the internet yeah also i just love when the internet collectively decides to thirst over someone and over something very specific it's like oh we really we're really hot for like someone's earlobe and then we're gonna create obsessive content just about that right that's where that's in the internet for good and i appreciate it yeah yeah i liked someone commented on someone's meaty meaty earlobes in a recent episode of Succession. Oh yeah, like barnacle meat. Yeah, like barnacle meat. That was a brilliant little piece of poetry.

Oh, was that Tom talking to Shiv? That's Tom to Shiv. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tom is on a tear. Tom is on a Jimmy Butler-like tear right now in this season. What is something, Anna, you think is overrated? Memoirs.

Honestly, not to get too deep, but the entire publishing industry needs to stop giving book deals to random people who have a big Instagram following or have been on a reality TV show. Not everybody has a life story that needs a book. Not everybody wants to write a memoir. Can we stop wasting paper and wasting money and wasting space for these

memoirs to exist? I just, I hate them. I hate them. I hate, especially when like you've had a very nice life. You don't need to write about it. You don't learn anything. Nothing's happened to you life you don't need to write about it you don't learn anything

nothing's happened to you why do you need to share even if you don't want to if someone just throws a bunch of money at you and be like oh just do your entire uninteresting life in book form just say no it's fine you don't need to right but how else will people know that I was struggling before I was on Love Island? I want people to know the depths that I went until I rise to the top. You know what? Why not do like a really good Twitter thread? Right. Like a really profound Instagram story.

It's not a book. It's not a book. Get a sub stack. Exactly. Do that. We don't need to fucking print. We don't need to have the printed word like that to talk about the mundane aspects of your life. I agree.

There are times when you see books on a shelf and you're like, why the fuck would anyone care about this person's memoir? But clearly, to your point, when there are like, because I'm sure it's like how publishing would work the same way how executives work in Hollywood. That person has a following,

that'll translate to sales. Spoiler alert, it usually doesn't. And. They're like, that person has a following? That'll translate to sales. Spoiler alert, it usually doesn't. And then they're like, how the fuck did we fuck that up? It can't be because I'm completely unimaginative in the way I'm developing things or what projects I greenlight. It can't be that. Yeah.

And it's also taking up the work of a talented writer. I mean, the memoirs are not written by the memoirist, the character on the cover frequently. The person who got famous for Love Island is not necessarily an inherently talented writer, and so therefore they have to hire a talented writer and be like, yeah, yeah, more on your sci-fi dystopia later. Right now we need you to write a biography of this 22-year-old. a talented writer and be like, yeah, yeah. More on your sci-fi dystopia later.

Right now, we need you to write a biography of, of this 22 year old. Look, I don't know who Octavia Butler is and that sounds cool, but I think this person, you should write about their life. Okay. Yeah.

That's what we're talking about right now. Yeah. I need less influence from Octavia Butler and more influence from, I was trying to come up with a vapid celebrity named Octavia. Octavia, I don't know. All Octavias are good. Pretty good, yeah. All the Octavias in the public eye are good.

Yeah. Is there a bad Octavia? I don't think so. Yeah. Anyways. What is something you think is underrated? Okay. This might be niche, but do you guys ever get british television over there uh over here in

yeah in the states yeah i mean we get certain things for sure so i i watch a lot of films for work right to give you some context like big chunk of my job is just like watch films before they come out like for festivals or for reviewing whatever so i'm like constantly watching things during the day for work dream job but that just means that by the end of the day i'm like i can't watch anything else like my eyeballs are gonna melt out of my head and when i get to watch something for fun like for no reason whatsoever it's not new i don't have to do anything about it i could just like put it on while i'm just chilling or cooking or something and just enjoy it for the sake of it i get fully obsessed with it the last thing and i'm very late to this it's a british crime show called happy

valley oh yeah i genuinely need this to be succession levels well known that was the one where like the like the the murder of the cop's daughter gets out of prison yes yeah yeah that shit was on netflix i think it was they distributed on netflix here in the u.s it's a bbc show it had finished this year they like came back to it after a decade and they finished it and it's this like cranky self-righteous older women police officer in north in the north of england and it's fucking phenomenal just the writing the performance it's so violent it's like so grimy and i love horror cinema i'm not like scared of violence on screen right but oh my god it is filthy and i loved it and it's like gone down this massive

rabbit hole who is everyone in the show why have i never heard of this why have i never seen this i want 10 shows with this woman i'm obsessed with her i just want everyone to hear and watch valley i've only watched the first series and i know there's like three now so now i'm like because i really loved uh was it sarah lancashire who's in the yes I was like it's because I my mom is like a huge like BBC mystery like prime suspect addict since I was a kid so like I was that was always ambiently on in my house so she'll be like you have to see Happy Valley so I I heeded her advice when it first came out but yeah I'm looking forward to the other two. It's amazing.

It's like 18 perfect episodes. Yeah. Have you seen it, Jack, or no? I have not. No. It's really well done. There was like a show from America, I think, that came out around that time that was Happy something. And it was like about, wasn't it like a weed comedy or something?

Oh, maybe. That's what i had it confused with is there that she doesn't like open a disc uh nah no that's weeds isn't that no no not weed it's a like show that was like a prestige comedy in the u.s and i forget i i think i just got my wires crossed in my brain at some point and yeah no she's like it's about this this uh police officer who like the first series starts off with her backstory is like her daughter died and she suspects that this guy who's getting out of prison had something to do with her daughter's death and then like she gets obsessed with this guy and it opens up it's just it's it's it's pretty good it's pretty good then there's like a kidnapping and there's like small town politics and there's class issues and everybody just hates each other nobody speaks with a

yorkshire accent yeah which is lovely i was in kitchen working cooker yeah i've gotta go hospital now i'm like wow you're going hospital that's just British in general right don't they say go they do and do maths you're doing multiple maths not just one

how are you going to know the difference between doing one math and multiple maths well because we're stupid because it's mathematics it's not like we do mathematic you know out here speak for yourself man I only do one kind of addition fuck that other shit and anna you have a you know while we're talking shit about memoirs you have a a book coming out that's not a memoir what can you tell us a little bit about it not a memoir uh it's it's a It's essentially a book of essays about unlikable female characters. Amazing.

So it's pop culture history, it's pop culture criticism, but without, you know, your usual kind of film critic rankiness. I wrote it kind of for people who might be interested in film, but perhaps haven't ever read like a film history book and it basically looks at what makes a female character unlikable so it's like you know the bitch and the slut and the shrew and the crazy woman and all these like really negative connotations and tropes that sometimes are implicit in characters and why we still love watching them and why they make up some of the most memorable and popular female characters ever on in movie and tv history so i kind of look at all or as much as possible of film history and tv history and a little bit of music like from the 1930s in hollywood to literally the day i had to

give in the final draft of the book so i was writing right up and up to the wire of stuff that was airing on tv who's the most current who's the most current character that is included in the book just to kind of underscore roy from succession wow so i wrote it meteor well sadly i could not include the fourth season because i finished the book way before i started from Succession. Wow. So I wrote it. Meteor Lobes. That's where it was. Barnacle Me. Well, sadly, I could not include the fourth season because I finished the book way before it started,

but way before it was even finished, I think, before they finished shooting it. But all up until the third season, it's there. Okay.

Yeah. And there's shows like The Flight Attendant and Death to Me and Unreal, Fleabag, and then also a lot of older movies

like Fatal Attraction or Gone Girl you know and like even movies from the 1930s like I'm No Angel with Mae West and like stuff from the 90s like The Last Deduction so it really kind of jumps between stuff that we're seeing now on Netflix and other streamers to stuff that you might not be aware of or don't know about. And all the recognizable ones in between, like from the 90s and the 2000s. Did the revelation that Shiv had thick meat earlobes like barnacle meat blow your theory out of the water about like why people didn't like the character? Do you think?

It literally did. I'm so embarrassed. Now I have to go in and do like a whole new chapter just about the earlobes you know it's a whole thing with my publisher it's like oh that's good new edition you got the shiv earlobe edition that's more money that's more copies printed that book cover is just the earlobe it's just a person of the book yeah so is your i'm assuming there's like both of this but is like part of it they're being written unlikable by like male writers and part of it just like misogynistic culture that is like deeming them unlikable or kind of a swirl of that? Kind of a swirl. Part of it is also just trying to understand what unlikable even means.

what a likable even means so i keep hearing this word it keeps popping up in think pieces and media in like production meetings and you know in the industry in general like that character's not really likable right yeah it's like oh you just gotta make her more likable because otherwise why would we watch her and i'm like okay but what does that mean do you just why don't you like her like what is she doing that's so wrong right i don't fucking know i wrote the book and i'm like there is no reason it's just our weird projections on women that we're then uh putting on two fictional characters but it is a little bit of you know just plain old misogyny from us from all of us as we watch these films and decide you know what she's a bitch i'm gonna hate her and i'm gonna hate the actress that plays her too because she plays her too well so it means that she must be a bitch in real life too yeah and that combined with like you know the the

writers and the way that they create those characters to be villains but then one thing that i really love is and this this is how I, you know, why I love these characters, is that even though the films or the shows present them to us as sort of villains or as characters we should hate because of whatever reason, we still love them, right?

We still gravitate towards them. We still want to watch them. We still want to spend time with them. And that is the nugget of like really interesting kind of love for these unlikable characters that um is at the heart of the book as well wow nice yeah because i feel like cool everyone's like i hate lena heady's ass fucking cersei lannister get the fuck out like i remember like that there was a while when i feel like people around me like also had an unreasonable like they're just like oh i get sick when i look at her or whatever but i also love it i love that shit you're like wow the duality here is really

something well remember the hatred that you know anna gung god on breaking bad like people i was just gonna bring that up and i was like but that would just end up being the whole episode just talking about like how just over the top that was like a weird thing where the entire nation just like flipped a switch it was i think yeah that revealed a lot where like they're like they're like she's getting in the way of his crimes yes what fool that's a dislikeable okay oh and now she takes the money wow skylar wow yeah she's the problem walk cook her yeah literally let him cook let walk cook that shit yeah all right uh well it sounds like an amazing book. Instead of continuing this conversation, we will direct listeners to go buy the book and continue with your prose. The book is called Unlikable Female Characters, and it's available for pre-order. It seems like everywhere. It's going to be out everywhere for pre-order on paperback and e-book, and it's out on the 9th of May.

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or two nights ago big bomb drop the new york times published a story with a very like very interesting phrase in a text from tucker carlson yeah and also like a piece where oh and are you familiar with tucker carlson are i am our violent uh ethno-nationalist commentator on fox news okay good um because yeah the new york times i just want to it's it i'm gonna just start by saying, it sounds like the New York Times is helping Fox out, and we'll get to why a little bit later. But they open up this report by saying, quote, a text message sent by Tucker Carlson that set off a panic at the highest levels of Fox on the eve of its billion-dollar defamation trial showed its most popular host sharing his private, inflammatory views about violence and race i'm like well this is fucking private views what are you oh okay what could those be well let's read the text in question shall we this is from tucker carlson we're gonna say i just listening to the just reading the text like it's why i've never seen somebody who texts exactly as they speak on television.

It's so weird. It's just how Bart Simpson signs a yearbook. Yeah, he texts in a fucking monologue. It's so crazy. Have a cool summer. Okay, this is the... I don't know that Simpson's joke. He writes it in the yearbook.

He writes the way he talks. Anyway, so this is a text he sent on january 7th 2021 okay there's the night after uh january 6th uh he tweeted or he texted quote a couple of weeks ago i was watching video of people fighting on the street in washington a group of trump guys surrounded an antifa kid and started pounding the living shit out of him. It was three against one, at least. Jumping a guy like that is dishonorable, obviously. It's not how white men fight. Whoa. Put a bit in that one. Yet suddenly, I found myself rooting for the mob against that man, hoping they'd hit him harder, kill him. I really wanted them to hurt the kid. I could taste it. Then something deep in my brain, an alarm went off. This isn't good for me. I'm becoming something i don't want to be the antifa creep is a human being

much as i despise what he says and does much as i'm sure i'd hate him personally if i knew him i shouldn't gloat over his suffering i should be bothered by it i should remember that somewhere somebody probably loves this kid and would be crushed if he was killed if i don't care about those things if i reduce people to their politics, how am I better than he is? And then, like, somebody presumably, like, thumbs up that or something. That's not, like, who texts like that?

Did the emphasis, the three exclamation points, like, that part? That part right there. I'm sorry, Tucker, how do white men fight? Like, what are you saying here? Are we talking about, like, old school pug Old school pugilism like hey put your dukes Up and like you're doing this shit and just Like fucking you're doing that kind of thing

Or you mean the other way white men fight like Giving uh diseased blankets to indigenous People or like indiscriminately dropping bombs On defenseless you know groups of Civilians which which way are you Talking about Tucker Carlson There's so this is like Like you said this is

unsurprising like quantitatively is what he said on his show every night but that like the texture of that phrase is like so reminiscent of like leonardo dicaprio's character in django unchained like so thoroughly like antebellum south like it just just feels like for whatever reason that sentence was like oh there is a basement before below the basement where every like the just open and depraved white supremacy that like I kind of suspected was always going on with these people is actually happening. Like the fact that he just casually put through that out there. There's just like something there that's like a little brief window into how he actually talks and thinks. Right. Like to another white supremacist like, yeah, that's true.

It's not how white men fight. It's dishonorable. It's like how I would be like talking to a laker fan i'm like that's not how we play basketball right in the la lakers are like you're fucking right but this is like about the i guess the purity of of white pugilism i guess but the logic here i'm like so okay apparently this text was beyond the pale for the execs at fox and they figured that with theion trial about to happen, that this was just going to make things worse because they didn't want this to come out a lot like during his testimony, etc. That's what that's that's what they're saying. But they knew about these texts because it was part of the discovery process. Like when you're fucking in the middle of a lawsuit.

So they presumably knew about this already. And also he has a show where he constantly talks about the virtues of Western European whiteness and shit all the fucking time. So I just feels like they're like the New York times kind of helping Fox do damage control over the dominion lawsuit while also making the board seem like soul having humans who are like, you know what? We're actually not with white grievance politics here. Oh, interesting. And that's what I'm that's it's like sort of confounding. Or is it a way to spin like the largest defamation settlement ever

by it being like it wasn't because of all the election lies we settled. It was because Tucker's racism would have been a blight on our network if it came out in such a public way in a trial. I'm still struggling to find how they want us to believe what the reasoning is here. Because it sounds like a reason, but I'm not like I'm just like, is that really what it is? Are you patting yourselves on the back or being like and that was just a bridge too far for us? patting yourselves on the back or being like, and that was just a bridge too far for us at Fox. Yeah. The,

there, there was also the story where did you, I think we covered it on this, on this show. Like one of the trending episodes that Rupert Murdoch was like engaged to be married again to this, like, I forget,

like she was like a real estate person or she was like my, my ex-husband. Yeah. Evangelist. And then that got called off and there are rumors behind the scenes that she was she like believed tucker carlson was like the second coming of christ like had that he had been over to their house had dinner with like rupert murdoch his fiance and the next morning the engagement was called off and then like a week later tucker carlson was fired you're laughing

too hard at his jokes dude i could i could see there being some weird personal grievance shit like i'm guessing it's like there there are so many good reasons that he was fired. But also like the real reason is probably something stupid. And are we feeling like it's succession esque because the PR spin on it feels like a group full of people who have lost their tether to reality. Like, yeah, yeah, man, tell that to the public. They'll they'll believe that. Yeah, that the racism is too much. And I'm like, OK, was this written by Kendall Roy? Like, it has that energy in it.

I'd be worried that my view of reality is being too heavily influenced by Succession, except for the fact that Rupert Murdoch apparently is worried that his life is affecting Succession too much because he filed lawsuits being like, you can't use details from my life in the writing of Succession.

It seems like there's some bleed there. Right. Well, hey, I don't know. How do you feel, Anna, looking upon this media mess that we have over here? As I told you guys before we hit record, I love mess, so I'm enjoying all of it.

What do you think makes more sense? That this is spin to try and humanize the board all of it do you think what do you think makes more sense that it was that they're like this is like spin to try and humanize the board for being like and you see they actually cut ties with him or is this is this like some like you know connor wrote like this is like roy family roy star waco kind of shit honestly i think it makes us look better that we just do not understand the moves that are being made i think if we if it made sense to us it would mean that we just do not understand the moves that are being made. I think if it made sense to us, it would mean that we're in the same wavelength

as these people, and that is a questionable place to be, morally, ethically, in every single human possible way. To Tucker Carlson to look for answers about why he got fired, I'm just glad he got fired. That's probably a good philosophy that i would have

if i was a more mentally healthy less spiteful person yeah all right there's that i mean i also can make i i really do like the idea that rupert murdoch was just so incensed at his fiance like like giving him attention that he just did like a like roman firing joy the studio exists exact kind of thing was like oh yeah or fired, motherfucker. I don't know. How about that? But also, you know that he broke up with every single one of his wives via email. Best way to do it.

If you ask me. Set up a 30-day notice saying, I'm sorry, we have to part ways. I'm afraid this is not working out for either of us right now yeah well and also you always end it on a good note because it ends with best jack so they know that i have the best intentions and also yeah click my link tree underneath to kind of see what else i'm up if you're into it i know things kind of went south that's why i

always have been broken up with at chipotle every time for some reason yeah i hate beggars can't be choosers man they can't they can't i know okay okay okay okay okay uh mcdonald's hey i'll tell you what we're not loving is mcdonald's child labor law violations uh the department of labor has stepped in and mcdonald's is in a bit of trouble for employing two 10 year old children who worked as late as 2 a.m one of which operated the deep fryer which is a prohibited task for workers under 16 years old claim that the kids that mcdonald's claimed that the kids all right so mcdonald's is like franchised so they just like give people the ability to run mcdonald's with apparently absolutely zero oversight because these people claimed that the kids were merely visiting a parent who works as a night manager and the department of labor is like you've employed 24 minors under the age of 16 to work more than legally permitted hours so get the fuck out of

here with this bring your daughter to work shit like this is those just they're all pattern i'm like god they're all my children thank you that's how i look at them and and they wanted to come to you know work with me that's all it's it's a very man it's just such a dark time too because there's so many republicans too like trying to legislate this kind of stuff like yeah man kids should be able to fucking work yes you know like 14 year olds they need to be able to work a lot longer uh like i know they're uh in iowa like they were really had their eye on the bill like that i'm not sure if it actually went through it may have but there's just so many levels of fucking tragedy to it so it's like it because on one level you know these kids they're not working

because they're like i want to work at mcdonald's as a fucking 13 year old they're probably in a terrible situation where their only financial recourse is to try and work at mcdonald's at such a young age you know what i mean and then there's always somebody who's willing to be like hey well you know we got a fryer shift late at night. Once you get your homework done, if you want to come by for that. And it's just like, oh, fuck. Just the worst. I mean, yeah.

So Arkansas is scrapping age verification requirements for workers younger than 16 years old. Missouri Republicans are eyeing a similar move. Wisconsin Republican-led legislature introduced a bill that would allow kids as young as 14 to serve alcohol in bars and restaurants, but to seated customers only, which... Wait, what? Oh, you mean like as opposed to like someone at the bar? Yeah, you can't like be behind the bar like shaking up cocktails while like a... Oh, so you want to be able to have the 14-year-old bring your Mai Tai to your table? Like, okay, I see.

Man, but as a teenage alcoholic, I would have done succession-level Machiavellian maneuvering to get a job where I was serving alcohol at the age of like 16. Like five years away from being able to drink, but I get to serve it responsibly. Jesus. But yeah, I don't know. This is just another example of this thing. American capitalism, as currently constituted, is a system that overtly and almost exclusively rewards predation. It is just predators preying on people who are, have less power than them. And we're going to continue to see this level just like new and new lows,

new and like lower lows when as the basement beyond the basement. Yeah. Again, the basement under the basement is, is what we're seeing here. But I, I just think that as long as the myth is still there that like there is some meritocratic value to who becomes rich in this country like

we're we're kind of fucked because like we need to get people's minds back to a place where you know there is an understanding that companies with power will use that power to exploit you unless you have some you know collective power to to push back with and it's funny too because like to your point and about memoirs it's like the memoirification of successful wealthy people has also completely fucked up people's concept of like how to become successful like well i don't know that guy lifted himself up by the bootstrap why can't i it's like no the game's rigged against you already yeah or even just to live a life before you consider like writing about it or thinking that you have something to teach other people like what are you

teaching us exactly like are you just selling are you just selling the idea of constant hustle like to you guys this point is just selling the idea of work yourself to death in this particular way because that is what i did and that is what i will continue doing for the rest of my life and maybe maybe you will be just like me. But that path, whatever the path might be, you know, be it Love Island or anything else, it changes and it's never available for everyone. It's barely available to the people who actually get it and get those deals in the first place.

Yeah, it's barely available to anyone other than the people who already know that it's available to them. And they're not going to tell you that it's available to them. Yeah, here, listener, here's an exercise you can find out if this path is available to you check your pockets right now okay go through your pockets are there fucking emeralds in there you have any loose emeralds in your pockets no oh well you're not like elon then so here's how

to know if you have a chance at being a billionaire. Do your parents have a private wealth manager whose full-time job it is to grow their wealth? No. Their job is to not fuck up their ones. Yeah. Right. Anyways. I mean, there's all sorts of structural things. And Congress hasn't passed a law that's disadvantageous to like billionaires and an entire generation.

The Supreme Court keeps pushing things in the direction of corporations. But there is, I feel like also just the media has fully bought into the corporate, like the idea that what corporations tell us is the truth. like the idea that what what corporations tell us is the truth and that like that's the way to run a society is just like that that clintonian idea of like taking in the neoliberal ideas of like free market and running the entire civilization like that and it's just not working and i think it has gotten into people's bloodstream where now nobody thinks of selling out as being a thing, whereas that used to be a thing that you would look down on. Now it's like, yeah, get the bag, which is totally understandable. But it just feels like in this very specific form of late stage hyper capitalism, it's very like we we don't have the cultural kind of well a defense mechanism well the like the options are so minimal right for like upward mobility that

like it's like in this country like we've just been mainlining this kind of fucked up financial propaganda where it's sort of like hey man i know it feels like your back's against the wall but you might luck out like one of these exalted people. And that's going to keep you alive for a little bit longer while we get a little more labor out of you. Like and because of that, we're caught in this fucking rat wheel. And like, you know, like, again, that wasn't till the pandemic happened where people weren't like, well, what the fuck is what the fuck is this? Yeah. And they were really unplugged from the matrix. The fucking checks cut the checks off!

Cut them off! Because people are getting fucking ideas now. So, yeah. It's a bit of a kind of a fucked up situation. But yeah. Let us know if you guys are seeing 10-year-olds at your local McDonald's cooking up fucking fries, please.

That's the answer. Just tip those 10- olds to tip them better that's going to be a piece in the atlantic soon yeah the wall street journal is going to be like what we need to do is actually advocate for child tips yes thank you thank you what heartwarming story of this child coming home from work at McDonald's at four in the morning and a wealthy person was driving by and decided to buy them a new pair of shoes because theirs had holes in them. Heartwarming story. Absolutely. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk Baby Danes. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre.

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I think so. Look, I've been on TikTok for the last year or so, just mouth agape, watching it for hours at a time. And I've come across all kinds of content. And ever since the algorithm figured out I'm a parent now, I get weird parenting content. I'm seeing weird hacks about like how to know how your baby's asleep. You look at how clenched their fist is. If their fist is clenched, they are not sleeping or whatever.

No, it's how full their stomach is. That's how you can tell how much to feed your baby. And people are like, that has nothing to do with anything. That's how they sleep. Hey, doctor here. That's not true. Shut shut up doctor this is tiktok you fucking hater but anyway doctors have to spend half of their work day just debunking shit they see on tiktok right and like i see all kinds of stuff like that and then then i started seeing like stuff about like aesthetic names for babies like oh you want an aesthetic name for a baby uh and it seems that like baby

naming content is becoming more and more popular and there's now like there there are influencers around baby naming like people who like yo they fucking come with the sickest names in the game right now let me play like i'm gonna play a clip for you of like one of these things of like just how these videos are like these are these are aesthetic baby names uh so you can like vibe out your child's energy okay why is it playing terrible music okay let's mute the music because we're not gonna get a strike it's like so these are aesthetic names rowan comes up yeah ren with names. Rowan. Rowan. Rowan. Ren with a W. Ren with a W. Atlas. Atlas. Yeah. These people misunderstand the word aesthetic.

These are just names. But it's a vibe, okay? Posey. Posey. Okay. That's such a vibe. Okay, so like there's like all these kinds of things. There are only six aesthetic baby names and they that's just one video that's for if you're fucking with that account which is official baby names one one one but like these influencers like people come to them because they want to know about like

what's the most unique thing like i come to these accounts to find out like how how much like how how much of a niche unique name can i get and like people because people don't want bum ass names like emily or jessica or matt or even miles it seems or they're like miles has actually played the fuck out and i was like what the fuck fuck i don't give a anyway so people want that aesthetic though does being played out mean it's not as it's not well aesthetic is one version And other ones are just people who are like, we just are looking for really unique names. So they will offer, they will go to these influencers and here's like one package that one of these name influencers offers. A video consultation

with 16 baby name options for $99. An eight name package with extensive name analysis for $175 and a 16 name package with name analysis for $250. I don't know what that means. It sounds like somebody just putting together 16 names on lists and sending them to you and being like, this is where they rank or whatever. And I mentioned the name, Jessica, shout out to two of my exes, but because that's like, that's the name of one of the women that runs an account. And in an interview with Vox, like it's clear she hates that her name is Jessica, like every other girl born in the 80s and early 90s. This article says, quote, I always say to my mom, you carried me for nine months and you come up with Jessica. After all that, after all we've been through. I mean, can I can i throw in a suggestion for these

people uh-huh change your name you don't like it change your fucking name yeah you got the freedom why is this a hustle why is this how are you charging people for essentially googling something for them i know so here's the thing like apparently this is like it's like this this woman talks about how she has rules when she's thinking up a baby name. And apparently, and this isn't new. I've like, I've interacted with people, friends who are kind of like really into this kind of stuff. But her rules are, quote, it cannot be in the top 200 most popular baby names. She can't know anyone with the name. It has to be pronounceable by her family members with Boston accents, meaning Paka and Atha are out. Atha. Atha. Oh, so you just kind of sound like Charmaine Buco in Sopranos.

Adi, Adi. Anyway, and it has to be professional sounding. And she says, people get really angry when I said that. Well, that seems a little coded, but okay. I don't know. Maybe that's why. And these influencers put out videos that are like, they have these other, there's other videos are like, Hey, um, these are some really popular

names. I just want to warn people. They're becoming really popular and they're trending. And I'm, and you know, if, if this is one of your kids' names, I'm really sorry that I'm having to tell you this, like, that's the tone of the video. And it'll be like, okay, so if your name is, uh, if your baby's name is Silas or Finn or Maeve, these are names that are becoming really popular. And like, I'm sorry. And like in the comments, people are freaking the fuck out. Like they're being accused of child endangerment

because they're like, my name, my baby name's trending. Like it's a whole, it's a whole thing. But yeah, I think the fact is like, as they point out in Vox, like once families became smaller in the 1960s and people weren't just like spitting out kids to like work the land people began to put more like emphasis on names that weren't just like direct tributes to elder family members just to get like a name out and then that slowly morphed into where we are today where the

internet has made everything a flex or a stunt or a competition and naming a kid is like more akin to now a product fucking launch than welcoming a new member into your family and i get it some people people think about for years like i have friends that have known what they were naming their kids since they were in elementary school okay but the effect that social media has on us can't be understated like it it really there's a there's a whole thing now where people are because everything is available and people think about handles and branding. Now, it's really wild. Isabel Munson in Real Life Mag wrote this. I think it's really interesting just talking about the idea of what social media has done to us and like how we're commodifying our existences.

Quote, just as capitalism engenders the belief that our value is determined by our productivity, social as a business category influences our concept of the self, encouraging us to see self-categorization on platforms not only as self-realization, but as a source of capital. Our value then is based on effective self-branding. And we're misspelling names like Kentucky and saying,

it's like, oh, that's Katiki, my new daughter's name. It's wild out there. It's wild out there. I do find baby names inherently fascinating, like trends in baby names, because it's such a meaningful decision and it changes so drastically these days for no good reason. One of the things that made me believe in a collective unconscious was that I had this

name for 15 years. I was going to name my son if I ever had one. And then a month before we're having our first son, I look up to see like what the most popular names are and it's like number like it's become number one in the past like five years like the name that like for no reason like liam was the name for no fucking reason like at all it's just all of a sudden that is what everybody is naming their children all at the same time so i think like those trends so we we went with nissan instead we pivoted to nissan because you know we had to honor the man some way right but it's i don't know

it is very interesting and it's a like decision that i feel like people take very seriously but i don't know you also can't fuck it up too bad yeah i think at the end of the day like if you're a kid like i i've said this on the show before i wished my name was dj in the 90s okay i don't want to be miles you know what i mean and then i grew out of that shit i'm like nah man fuck that i like my fucking name um and like but there is like you know even with naming my own son it's just like you have names but it was never it never got to a point where it's like, well, who the fuck else has this name? It's more like what feels like it embodies the union of our families and whatever other things, because we're trying to honor like, you know, with first initials, because some people use that kind of naming convention and arrive at a name. to use that kind of naming convention and arrive at a name.

And it wasn't as like brought as like being like, get the fucking book, make sure it's on the top 200 or we've fucked up his entire life. Or you know what I mean? For me, it was. I just, I had one name in particular

that I was like, I don't want the name to be like the, what Ryan was when I was a kid where like there were five Ryans in like all of my classes. Like for the year you were born, Jack Jack Ryan was the 11th most popular name yeah well could have fooled me seemed like number one oh wait that's in California that's just in California yeah it was in Ohio and West Virginia and New York it was pretty fucking popular it would would seem. Kentucky, a lot of Ryans. But I don't know.

So that's why. I didn't mind if the name was somewhat popular. I just didn't want it to be the number one, which Liam seems to be. I was really into the name Luik, the French name. Yeah, because I like the fucking weird, like how it looked with the interesting letters and like umlauts and shit. I was like, Oh,

that shit looked cool. Like if you're tagging that, like this was where my mind was at. I was like, this would look dope if you're tagging this name. Cause I was a tagger and I don't know if that, that had value to me. And then like,

and it was also because there was like a soccer player in a game, like a soccer game. I was like, Oh, that's a cool name. But they were saying like Loic. And I was like, Oh,

okay. I can fuck with that. And then after a while, I pretty much, I was like, that's a cool name but they were saying like lowick and i was like okay i could fuck with that and then after a while i pretty much i was like that's like when it come to naming my own kid i was like this doesn't really match at all so i'm happy with his name we're happy with his name method man great yeah uh yeah it's a dope name yeah i love it i don't like it sounds fascinating listening to you guys speak i mean i don't have kids so i have not had to go through that ordeal of finding a name. Do you have contemporaries that have and you've witnessed something like this? Yeah, but I've never witnessed people get so obsessed or down this rabbit hole or even conceiving of paying people to come up with a baby name.

But I do remember, I think everyone goes through this. I used to hate my name growing up, so i would constantly try to change it so i'd introduce myself with different names that i thought were cool for one reason or another to people like in a club or when i met new people i'd be like hi my name's agnes and i don't know why but people would be like no it's not yeah yeah like stuff like that i was really into like french new wave cinema it's like yeah you got the varda do right now you know if i'm not gonna lie you know you give me you give me anya's varda right now oh thank you although i actually met her she's she was lovely and super tiny and the night one of the nicest filmmakers i've ever met but like there was this weird thing

where your name becomes it's a match of a personality, even with a baby or an energy. Because people clocked me immediately. They were like, no, you're not. I'm such a name. No. Why are you lying? Really? Yeah, they full on just did not believe me.

I was like, hi, nice to meet you. I'm Agnes. I don't know. I was trying out names. And they were like, no. You're now saying Agnes, but you are serving Anna. I'm sorry. Get the fuck out of here.

You got big Anna energy. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. It's funny. When I would get in trouble with old white people who didn't know me, I would always tell them

my name was Orlando. That was my thing. That was my fake name. They're like, what's your name? Who are your parents? I go, I'm Orlando.

And they're like, well, get out of here, Orlando. I'm like, yeah, fuck you. And I wasn't even talking about it because Orlando heard El Duque, the pitcher for the Yankees. That's why I was saying I'm going with some Orlando. I thought you were just trying to subliminally remind them

of Disney World, their favorite place on Earth. Your favorite place in Florida, Orlando. Oh, wasn't the Virginia Woolf novel? It wasn't that what you were referencing? No, no, unfortunately not. I was not. El Duque. El Duque and the Yankees pictures.

I forgot that name. But it is like a thing too. Like, you know, you look at how people like in America, especially like on Instagram, the way people hard launch a baby. There's like fucking all this shit like they've they got banners made fucking merch like people are really conscious of like how shit is gonna look on like that announcement post yeah and they just kind of see how it's just kind of like trickling in where people can't even like trust their own sense of like what they

feel to name their own child that it's now being like well i don't trust myself to know what i should name my child i'm gonna surrender it to the algorithm yeah essentially like yo come on now relax a little bit shout out method man i love shout out method man young method man method method baby right now uh we're gonna get there yeah that is a that is a terrifying feeling like when we thought we were having a girl with our second, we just were like, we vibed it out. We were like, this is a girl. We have our girl name. We're good. And it was a boy.

And we were like, 48 hours. We were like, what do we do here? Oh, no. We just like, I don't even remember how we came up with the name. Wow. Oh, so you really got caught, like, not we came up with the name. Wow. Oh, so you really got caught not doing your homework for the test? Yeah. I also didn't want to.

I didn't want to decide based on a fucking blog or whatever. Sure, sure, sure. Yeah. I wanted to decide based on what one of my friends randomly texted back to me. The one person who responded to me at like 3 a.m. When I was like, look, man, I'm in a bad way. Like, what do you think of this one? Like, yeah, it sounds good.

I was like, all right. Thanks, man. Appreciate it. Also, my sister, my sister. Great guide. All right, Anna. Yeah. It's been such a pleasure having you on the show.

It's been wonderful, guys. Thank you so much. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? So you can find me online on Twitter and Instagram at Anna B. Demented. You can pre-order the book anywhere you can buy books. And

you can listen to me talk about horror movies over on the Final Goals podcast. It's a classic. Yeah. And are you talking, you're doing like succession wrap-ups too aren't you a little recap oh god yeah yeah i'm also doing the successionistas with my friend mike which recaps the current season of succession yeah that comes out every tuesday morning got it got it got it yeah how you liking the season i'm mixed on it mate i'm like some episodes all-timer

absolute banger just stone cold perfect hour of television and others i'm like i'm very confused how is this this up and down up and down kind of roller coaster but i almost like i want to reserve judgment until to see the whole thing because the whole thing always like it needs to fit together and then you get why certain episodes didn't quite work in isolation so i'm like i'm i'm in with it until the end like season two of succession is probably a perfect season of television and i love it i'll watch every episode like three or four times. Yeah. Is that the season where Greg takes the stand? Greg takes the stand. It was a great moment of television.

Is that that season? Is that season two? Yeah, it's with the cruises. Yeah, right. With the cruises. Waystar cruises, right. It's when they go to, it's with the iconic line of

where Tom sent Greg 67 emails saying you need to break some you need to break some Gregs to make a Tomlet or you can't make a Tomlet without breaking some Gregs. Nailed it. Oh man. If it is to be said so it be.

So it is. I prefer that Greg to like Disgusting Brothers Greg. Disgusting Brothers Greg, he's losing points, man. I'm not going to... But he's trying something on. Right, right, right. It doesn't fit him, though. Oh, yeah, for sure.

He's like, stop being a gross dude. It's not your natural vibe. Yeah. Well, if it is to be said, so it is. It's not your natural vibe. Yeah. Well, if it is to be said, so it is. I thought episode three and four of this season were some of the best ever.

But yeah, like other than that, it's been kind of. Which was, though, I mean, without spoiling the big one, the big the family event one. I was there was some times like, well, y'all are also like it was well directed, well performed. I was like, OK, y'all making me feel some shit, too, when I thought y'all didn't feel shit which was I think why the episode hit so hard yeah dramatologically it made sense to quote Jeremy Strong that's what he said

in the making of documentary that immediately followed it that is the only making of documentary that I like watch every time I watched the episode I was like okay we're gonna're going to do this again. I love that his clothes this season are based on Elon Musk's looks. Are they? Yeah.

I was reading something that there was like a huge thing like, yeah, we're taking a lot of inspiration from Elon Musk for Kendall's outfit. Also, there's I don't know if they're going to do the same thing. I'm sure they will in in the States but there's gonna be a london screening of the finale and by the time it airs here it's like 2 a.m so there's a cinema in london that will have the like a live stream of the show at 2 a.m screening in like a public cinema and i swear to god if i don't get a fucking ticket for that event, I'm going to burn the entire cinema down. All right. Y'all heard it.

Allegedly. Get the tickets. Allegedly. Allegedly, if it burns down. If it's said so it be. So it is. So it is. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying, Anna?

Oh, God. Well, I've honestly been thinking about this tweet for about a week it's not the slutty little knees one it's another one hold on a second let me pull it up so I saw the suite uh like a couple a week or so ago by this woman who was like novels are so great they're just like I made up a little weirdo oh no, no, now he's in trouble. And I'm working on a piece of fiction now. I'm like, oh, shit, that's all it is. I just have to make up this little stick figurine and put it in some trouble. Oh, no.

That's all it is. Break it down. I made up a little weirdo and it's in trouble. That's great. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah. Find me on Twitter and Instagram.

Another at based places at miles of gray. Also check Jackie and I out on the latest episode of miles and Jack got mad. All the NBA hosts. This is delicious right now. Delicious. Shout out Joel and B for securing that MVP. MVP. Anyway, MVP. MVP. MBP.

MBP. And also, yeah, find me and Sophia Alexandra on our 90 Day Fiancé podcast for 20 Day Fiancé, where we smoke more weed than Willie Nelson ever did in his lifetime and talk about, you know, immigration based reality romance shows. Now, some tweets I like because the

writer's strike is on and fucking popping right now. I just want to shout out some of the people who have been picketing and also some of their posting some of their signs, which is great because there's nothing wittier than writers who have a blank slate for their picket signs. Johnny Son tweeted. I'll just I'll just show you some of these. He said, right. It's like they have the normal strike strike or picket sign that says writers on strike. And he wrote, sure, I support AI, all of our terms being met, in a fair and timely manner, because that's a huge point of contention right now in negotiations

where they're like, I don't know about AI. Are you guys worried? And then at Katie Delaney tweeted her sign, which is a picture of Tim Robinson from I Think You Should Leave. And it says, you don't want to negotiate a deal with the WGA? You sure about that? You sure about that? That's not what you want?

So I love any references to that show. But anyway, yeah. That's coming back soon, right? End of May. Yeah, end of the month. All right. Tweet, I've been enjoying Cullen Crawford. Finally, an entire board of smorgas i think it's borg of smorgas but i i got the meaning and i liked it and that is the text

that i randomly scrolled to or the the tweet i randomly scrolled to so that's my favorite um you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. There's a song that we think you might enjoy.

Hey, Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? Hey, Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? So in the past, we've I remember gone out on a song by a song by the group 79.5. The track then was this track called Sisters Unarmed. And it's dope. Like they're very like they they're multi genre type artists. Like it's like part disco, part funky jazz, part like it's also like kind of ESG. They have they have just many vibes. But they have a new track out, and it's actually,

so I was listening to KCRW, the local radio station, and they were talking about this song that just came out. And they're like, and the reference is actually a Sopranos reference. Like, the new track name is called Long Term Parking, which is an episode, a very, very seminal episode of the Sopranos where something happens. But the person on the air just fucking goes in and just says what happened in the episode. And I don't know why I felt so incensed.

I'm like, don't spoil that for people who didn't see that 19 years ago. The fuck is wrong with you? But anyway, this track is called Long Term Parking, and it's by none other than 79.5. So check it out. It's a really dope track. All right. Well, we'll link off to that in the footnotes. Today, this is a production of iHeartRadio.

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