The Daily Zeitgeist - Sonic The WRETCH Hog, You’re Welcome McDonald’s 5.1.19

Episode Date: May 1, 2019

In episode 382, Jack and Miles are joined by Stuff They Don't Want You To Know and Ridiculous History's Ben Bowlin to discuss John Singleton's career, McDonalds sales jumping 4.5% since unveiling baco...n, the Poway synagogue shooting, Biden's new campaign ad, GOP attacking socialism for not helping their cause, Venezuela heading to a possible civil war, Halima Aden making history by wearing a Burkini in the Sports Illustrated swimsuit issue, the new Sonic movie, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. John Singleton Dies: Trailblazing ‘Boyz N The Hood’ Filmmaker Was 512. McDonald's Reports First Quarter 2019 Results3. Someone Found The Poway Synagogue Shooter's Manifesto And Called The FBI Minutes Before The Attack Began4. Terror Attack Thwarted in Los Angeles, Authorities Say5. WATCH: America: Anything Is Possible | Joe Biden For President6. OLD MAN JOE: BIDEN SLURS HIS WAY THROUGH FIRST SPEECH AS PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE [MONTAGE]7. When the GOP tried — and failed — to tag Democrats as socialists8. Venezuela's Guaido urges troops to rise, mass protests planned9. Halima Aden Makes History as the First Model to Wear a Hijab and Burkini in Sports Illustrated Swimsuit10. Sports Illustrated Faces Backlash for Featuring Burkini-Wearing Model11. WATCH: Sonic The Hedgehog (2019) - Official Trailer - Paramount Pictures12. WATCH: Joomanji - Where Are You? (Love for JL) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:58 Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet internet and welcome to season 80 episode 3 of their daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio the podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck coke industries and fuck fox news it's wednesday may 1st 2019 Happy birthday to my three-year-old. Thank you. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Oh, Jack O'Brien, the Daily Zeitgeist Calling.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Courtesy of Brent Libera. Danny boy. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host mr miles gray miles of gray i'm still zeitgeist miles of gray yeah i'm still zeitgeist and izzy is mo so uh look that aka goes out to yes better at snarky to Sod for that one. Because, look, I mean, Pearl Jam. I was just singing Don't Call Me Daughter. It was playing at the liquor store last night.
Starting point is 00:03:13 And isn't the part where you say something like, in an otherwise empty room. I think that's what it's called, actually. It's like woman across the counter. Oh, it is? It's not even called. Yeah, it's got a weird name. Oh, it is? Yeah, it's got a weird name. Oh, shit. Well, anyway.
Starting point is 00:03:26 I just sang that specific line out loud and it looked at me like something was wrong. But I was like, bro, Pearl Jam? What the fuck
Starting point is 00:03:33 with the classics? You were just singing along to the song? No, I just went, in another Y's empty room. The guy was like, so you want a paper bag for this Steel Reserve 211? Steel Reserve 211.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I was like, nah, man. All right, man. Unbagged. Bringing out the good stuff. High gravity, high gravity. What, do you have out-of-town guests in town or something? Nah, nah, you know, I just got a lot on my plate right now. So I hit the liquor store up with some more liquor.
Starting point is 00:03:59 No, I'm fine. It was wine. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the very smart and talented host of the podcast Ridiculous History and the podcast stuff they don't want you to know, Mr. Ben Bowen, a.k.a. Ben Bowen and Magoo. Or a.k.a. We fly high, no lie, you know Ben. Ballin'! Oh, God, those are perfect, guys. Thank you. We didn't even work on that before. Nah, I just, I was...
Starting point is 00:04:31 These are way better. I was singing it, actually, for the last five minutes before we started recording. I was like, Irony, this has to be, he gotta have a Diplomats, a.k.a. Diplomats. Or was it just Jim? It was a Jim Jones track, right? But, you know, it was all Dipset. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah. Yeah, totally. We respect the Di respect the diplomats uh ben how you doing how are things uh in the state where you live there uh you know it's it's a real train wreck candidly on the bigger picture end of things uh i our show is based in georgia in at in Atlanta, Georgia, and as some of our listeners will remember, the election for the governor was essentially stolen recently. So that's kind of a kick on the chin for everybody. But otherwise, you know, like the weather is great. I was walking down the street to get into the studio today, and some guy, some random guy was like, you're killing it. I don't know what he was talking about, so I just said thanks and walked in here. It's a good day.
Starting point is 00:05:33 I think he saw one of those Instagram posts that was like, go up to somebody and tell them they're killing it. Spread the love. And he was like, you know what? Here's my shot. Sir, sir, you're killing it. Thank you. Paying it forward. Awesome. Ben, we're going to get's my shot. Sir, sir, you're killing it. Thank you. Paying it forward.
Starting point is 00:05:50 Awesome. Ben, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to take our listeners through a few of the things we're talking about today. We're going to off top say our IP to John Singleton, a very talented director who passed a couple of days ago. We are going to talk about McDonald's, whose sales jumped 4.5% in the first quarter because of us. We'll explain why. Why they owe that all to us. We control all consumer brains. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:17 We're going to talk about the synagogue shooting that happened over last weekend and the fact that there was some early indicators that the local law enforcement did not act on, which is kind of becoming a trend, I guess, in the past couple of territories. Not necessarily consciously, but there's just no real properly articulated plan of action against this when they basically just rely on tips. Right. Tips for money, right? Yes. We need a tip. Please tip your local law enforcement.
Starting point is 00:06:52 To protect and serve your food. Yes. We're going to talk about Obama's grandpa actually just dropped a new ad. Joe Biden, I guess, is his name. Oh, yeah. That guy. Yeah. I love Obama's grandpa.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's tight. Hansy Joe. Hansy Joe, is his name. Oh, yeah, that guy. Yeah, I love Obama's grandpa. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's tight. Hansy Joe. Hansy Joe. Sleepy Joe. He also made his first official speech as a presidential candidate. And he started betraying a feature that I've come to associate with our current president. So we'll talk about what that is.
Starting point is 00:07:25 We're going to talk about the Republicans attempt to take aim at socialism. The scary word that some in the Democratic Party are choosing to embrace. And we're going to talk about how devastatingly effective that is. We're going to talk about Venezuela, which things are getting awfully hot down there. They may be headed for a civil war. We're going to talk about the model Halima Aydin, who is the first model to wear a hijab and bikini in Sports Illustrated, a swimsuit issue, and some of the reactions to that. And finally, we are going to talk about that Sonic trailer. Miles, what are your thoughts on the Sonic trailer?
Starting point is 00:08:15 I'm just very disappointed I did not see my namesake Miles Tails in it. So it is a hard pass for me right now. Wait, I thought you were named after Miles Davis. You were named after Tails? I was retroactively named after Miles Tails because by that point, I think I was already 10 years old when Sonic 2 came out. But anyway, that's for another show called Why I Changed My Name. All right. But first, Ben, we like to ask our guests, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:08:45 Something from my search history. All right. So I got really involved last week with looking up snacks that have come and gone. And it was one of those things where I looked up and it was, you know, like 3.30 in the morning on a day of the week I didn't recognize. in the morning on a day of the week I didn't recognize. And I was, I was, I had been caught in this hole where I was trying to figure out what happened to the following brands of chips. Keebler had these chips called pizzerias and pizzerias ostensibly were pizza flavor chip. I don't know if they actually nailed the flavor, but young Ben Bolin thought they were like the holy grail in a bag. And, uh, yeah. And
Starting point is 00:09:26 they were, they were amazing. I couldn't find them anywhere. I was like, why did they discontinue these? Why did Keebler like some snack spewing Icarus fly too close to the flavor side? And, and, uh, and so anybody who looks at my search history for the past week is going to be, it's going to be like, wow, this guy needs to, this guy needs to let the potato chip thing go. It's like, just give this guy some ecto-cooler. Right, right. They came back. Gentlemen, I'm telling you, we are at the forefront of history. Anything is possible. Bring back pizzerias. Yeah, I remember buying pizzerias when I first saw them because I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:10:03 This looks okay. And it was like just a very generic, like more marinara flavored chip. It's hard to get that cheese dimension. It looked like a Dorito. A Tostito Dorito. Exactly. Got it. You know everything's corn out here, Jack.
Starting point is 00:10:18 Come on now. I do. I do. Yeah. They look like my favorite type of Dorito that was discontinued, the vegetable and herbs Dorito. Do you remember that one? What? It was back, back.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I think it was only in the 80s, but there was like a- Sounds like shit. Vegetable. Yeah, I think it was like salsa Doritos or something. Salsa Verde, maybe. Oh, right, right. What the fuck was that? I think they were the first flavored Doritos. Like there were Doritos that were just corns, just corn.
Starting point is 00:10:49 And then there were corns flavored after. Well, I think the salsa verde is still around maybe. Yeah, but do you know the ones I'm talking about? They had the like cartoon drawing. Yeah, it was like salsa. Oh, I'm looking at right now. Salsa Rio flavor. Salsa Rio.
Starting point is 00:11:03 And the image is like an onion cut in half and like a bell pepper. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know it's good for you, right? Yes, exactly. There's a drawing of a vegetable. We can't do a photograph because that would lead you to believe that there's actual vegetables in here and not just chemical miracles. That's why I'm so healthy today is I got all my vegetables from that.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I miss that logo of the Doritos bag. Yeah. Yeah. Bring that back and bring back the old Taco Bell logo too. What was the old Taco Bell? It used to be like the same color, like Brown and orange and shit. Oh,
Starting point is 00:11:34 right. Right. Uh, what is something you think is overrated, Ben? Uh, let's see. I gotta,
Starting point is 00:11:41 you know, I gotta be honest with you. I think talking on the phone is overrated. It's 2019, real friends text. I have a short list of people that I'll answer the phone when they call. You guys are on it because you're awesome. This isn't just your way of trying to get off the phone with us? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:00 You got to go. Right. All good. It's weird, man good it's weird man it's weird I you know and it's it's a personal take but we all have those people in our lives who primarily enjoy communicating over the phone you know what I mean and I've got I don't know if you guys ever do the math but you we've all got those friends who when they call you look at the number and you think is this a 15-minute call or is this an hour conversation?
Starting point is 00:12:28 And some friends just they speak in hour conversation blocks. So I want to apologize to everybody listening to the show, including my mom. Hey, mom. Happy Mother's Day. Huge fan. Big Zeitgang. You're a pretty big deal here at the zeitgang susan bolin and uh i just want you to know i'm sorry that i don't and probably will continue not to immediately answer the phone
Starting point is 00:12:53 but i'll send you a text i love you do you ever see value though in like a good phone chat like i get like when they're the people who are just the phone vampire and they just suck your soul through the phone that's one thing but like some i i like to talk on the phone if i can because some i don't know maybe i'm just nostalgic for when i was like in middle school and shit and you just be talking on the phone all the time but i don't know if i unless you think verbal communication over phone is just moot at this point driving and talking on the phone is a great way to catch up with people. If you're just like, every time I drive somewhere, I'm going to call somebody from my past. I don't do that.
Starting point is 00:13:27 I just listen to podcasts instead, which are, those are my real friends, the people who host podcasts that I listen to. No, but my wife does a thing where she, like the second she gets on the phone, she's just like calls me and is just like, all right right you have to talk to me for this entire drive like 35 minutes and right uh is just like burning out
Starting point is 00:13:50 the clock on it sometimes she's like what else yeah it's like william bar testifying i'm like sorry i'm not being entertaining enough you're like uh there's a bird just flew by the window no not that bird from earlier is a different one. Let me read out loud to you from this book. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me see. Ingredients, xylitol, xanthan gum. That's a good call, though.
Starting point is 00:14:16 That's a good call. Like, you know, I will admit that's a great thing to do during a road trip. And I like the gravitas with which you phrase that. You're like, I call people from my past. From the past. Because I got to head out your way eventually in the next few months or so. Maybe I'll just drive and just call everybody that I've been putting off talking to for the past 15 years. Make all those amends, man.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Just record it. Hey, that's a podcast right there. Right. That's the whole concept. One man takes a road trip but uses the duration of the trip to call people from his past and resolve as many personal issues as possible.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Boom. That would actually be good. Platinum idea. That would be good because just going through your entire phone list, all your contacts alphabetically and just be like, yo, I don't even know who you are.
Starting point is 00:15:02 Shit. Hey man, it's Jack. Yo, copyright this now because could you imagine, even right now when I don't even know who you are. Shit. Hey, man, it's Jack. Yo, copyright this now. Could you imagine, even right now, when I look at my phone, the first few people I would have to call, I'm having a panic attack. Yo, Daniel Aguirre, yo, shout out to you. Oh, Alex Bozzotti, Baby June, Rohan, I will hit you up. I have Aaron, who I don't know who that is.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Autumn. Abraham, don't know who that is uh autumn uh abraham don't know who that is then i have four x's in a row wow that's the thing it's a lottery man yeah yeah i was thinking of x's too i've got uh i've got a yeah oof wow i've got a lot of dirt in my phone guys i don't know a lot of my wife's friends whose phones she's called me from, they just be like, hey, what's up? Hey, how's it going? What have you been up to? Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:56 What is something you think is underrated? I got to tell you, man, I would say, and I feel this in my heart, that pizzerias are underrated but we've been over that i think we've established that the chip pizzeria is not just the chip yeah yeah um i you know i recently i i won't do any spoiler things because it's a big deal but i recently uh had a day where i saw that huge uh of the Avengers Endgame and then some episode of the show Game of Thrones on the same day. And I was overloaded. I was like, I've spent too long living in these alternative worlds.
Starting point is 00:16:38 And these people are like on the Internet getting mad about conversations about the things. And I realized, though, that at the root of it, people are fundamentally happy with that. And maybe it's, you know, maybe it's like some people would say it's nerdy out or something, or maybe it's not cool to be enthusiastic about shit anymore. But I love it. I love the idea. Like I saw I saw some kid with a with like one of those large popcorns as bigger than, it's been a while since I've been to the movies, guys. It was bigger than him. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And he just like- That's a small. Took it down. Somehow he, I don't know if he ate all of it, but at some point in excitement during the film, he just like put the bucket over his head and screamed and i was like that kid got the bucket just for that yeah um so i think i think enthusiasm is underrated all right i like that and yeah shout out to the people who did an end game of thrones yeah avengers end game of thrones have been fucking exhausted by the end of that it was a lot yeah i like that and
Starting point is 00:17:47 that uh episode of game of thrones was one of like there are certain shows like prestige tv shows that i would come out of feeling like i don't know i would like always get anxious before and after sopranos and maybe that would had more to do with like where I was in my life at the time. But- Because you were a drug dealing hit man. Right. And you know, shit was always- Yeah. You had to have your head on a swivel, man.
Starting point is 00:18:11 That's right. Always wait for the other shoe to drop. Yeah. I lived in an unfurnished house because I had to, I could never have stuff that I couldn't leave within five minutes. But you had a sick TV and universal remote. That's right. Which I could just throw on my back because I wasn't doing
Starting point is 00:18:25 that well. But that Game of Thrones episode, I felt like just good after watching it. I don't know why. I don't want to spoil anything, but okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I guess I won't either. Feels you energized. It's good to give you energy. I mean, yeah, I think maybe because you
Starting point is 00:18:41 know that this thing is about to culminate yeah into something whatever it's going to be and then with like sopranos like you never knew if you're like in the middle of the show you're like i don't know what's gonna happen anybody can come out the shadows right that's true pop you that's true it's kind of like that feeling when you're reading a book and you get closer to the end and you feel the distance between your thumb and your index finger, whatever, decreasing. There's this anticipation, how the hell are they going to sew all this up? Did I just get suckered into reading a three book series? Right. And then it turns out they don't sew it up because books are overrated. Books suck.
Starting point is 00:19:22 All right. And I'm glad everybody can co-sign that. And Ben, finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Something people think is true that we know to be false. Well, it's funny you ask me, guys, because as you know, one of the shows that I create is about critical thinking applied to conspiracy theories. So where do you want to start? I would say one thing that people think is true that is overrated is the idea of a population explosion.
Starting point is 00:20:06 explosion. You know, the idea that one day there would just be so many, many people that the world would break under the resource weight, just the demand of all the people. It looks like the population in a lot of areas is increasing, but it's decreasing in places. So whenever you see someone, you run into someone who's like holier than thou, and they say, well, there are this many billion people on earth and you know next year there's gonna be 25 billion just check them you know i'm not saying they have to read a book since those are uh woefully overrated right exactly i and also there's plenty of books that say that like uh the malthusian theory of population yeah like over population robert malthus was like a i, obviously a long time ago, but like that, that was huge in the seventies, even like very recently people were like, yeah, well, like instead of climate change, just insert, well, the global population is going to overwhelm us and there won't be enough food anyway.
Starting point is 00:21:00 So we're all screwed. Like that's how people talked about overpopulation. And then, uh, look at us. We've doubled the population since then. anyways so we're all screwed like that's how people talked about overpopulation and then yeah uh look at us we've doubled the population since then still living high off the hog right right well so far i mean the climate's gonna get us first right but it's but you know there's that it's a it's a cold comfort i guess yes we Or a warming one. Let's talk about John Singleton, who passed a couple days ago. He had a stroke and then was put on life support, and then people thought he had passed away,
Starting point is 00:21:34 and then they said he would recover, and then it ended up him just being on life support and them making the decision to take him off life support. And, I mean, man, the films that he has made just alone, you know, he was the first African American and I think youngest person to get the best director nod for Boys in the Hood and made a lot of great films to poetic justice and baby boy. Furious style. Higher learning.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Lawrence Fishburne from Boys in the hood is one of the great characters of all time man true stuff so dope uh higher learning was a big movie for me when i went and saw it in the theater when i was like in middle school or whatever yeah i was afraid to go to college when i saw higher learning i was like is michael rapaport gonna become a skinhead and shoot everybody remy yeah do it remy yeah and i I remember he said, I felt bad when he said mud people. He's like, I'm going to kill all the mud people. I was like, yo, am I the mud people? Right.
Starting point is 00:22:30 It was like the first time I was a kid. I was like thinking about racism like that. And I was like, oh, shit. Yeah. Also, shout out to Buster Rhymes. He got a cameo in that movie, too. Oh, did he? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Yeah, I feel like everybody used to be named Remy. But after that movie, like just- Not so many people. Not as many Remys out there. Yeah, it was a low-key Adolf. Yeah, yeah, low-key Adolf. Yeah, man. And, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:55 This is the second kind of 90s luminary pop culture figure who's passed away from a stroke in their 50s. Like, that's like because yeah perry had that same shit happen like a dude who just seemed way too young yeah singleton at least yeah yeah and luke perry another person who was unapologetically black right yeah that was the thing about luke perry not to make light of that but yeah i think there that's one of the great things about what john singleton's films did and And yeah, I think he will be missed very much so. Absolutely, man. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:28 And then finally, we just want to say you're welcome to McDonald's. After they had a first quarter earnings bonanza, sales jumped 4.5%. In the US, baby. Which, you know, they've been falling for a long time. And now they're balling. Yeah. Some might say. I mean, this is like, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:51 they finally figured out that you just need to get the podcast audience. Yeah. And, you know, they listened to some Daily Zeitgeist and they were like, you know what? I think these guys are tapped in. These guys seem like they would like bacon. Their finger isn't just on the pulse. I think they're actually setting the fucking tempo.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Right. These fucking, these weirdos. So yeah, look, we followed the development of the bacon being introduced into McDonald's very closely. Okay. We talked about it when they were testing it out in certain test markets. We said, oh shit, is it coming? Kept our eye on it. Full on rollout preach the gospel high and wide and now look at now look at mcdonald's four and a half percent increase and they even attribute that to successful
Starting point is 00:24:35 promotions including the bacon event daily zeitgeist and the two for five mix and match okay i added that last part uh but you know i think it's also just yeah i mean internet bacon culture yeah shit as much as i would like no guys no no you know what guys it's all you yeah okay thank you thank you so much zeitgang we did it uh now we just need to do more useful things that will help more people than just uh increasing the profits of mcdonald's i guess this was a case test, yeah. Yeah. I guess I will say that maybe it didn't help that much that I said it was whack from the beginning
Starting point is 00:25:10 and that the Ken Jeong ads were the just most cringe-inducing ads on TV in the past year. But I still think we made that bump possible. Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and pat myself on the back right now. Yes. It's all bones, really. When you think about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Yeah. All right. Well, you're welcome, McDonald's. We're going to take a quick break to save another business. Save another global megacorp. Right. With the advertisement you're about to hear. and we'll be right back after that. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.
Starting point is 00:26:09 My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions, like how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?
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Starting point is 00:29:21 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back and whoo we were talking about some corporations that we love uh over the break yeah um let's talk about the synagogue shooting that happened last weekend a 19 year old white nationalist terrorist uh opened fire at a synagogue in Poway, California. And apparently the FBI received a tip from someone that had seen a very disturbing post on 8chan.
Starting point is 00:30:15 It was the shooter's manifesto. And, you know, the tipster quickly sent that shit over to law enforcement. That was 20 minutes before the shooting began. And the FBI is just fucking underfunded and weren't able to catch it. Yeah. I mean, I think all, a lot of the evidence is pointing to the fact that the priority is not on domestic terrorism.
Starting point is 00:30:36 And like at every, at every instance when there's a chance to be like, I don't think we need that. Right. That's sort of what DHS does. And, and the FBI has, I think increasingly having to
Starting point is 00:30:46 monitor it because the attacks are becoming more and more frequent. But I still don't know if there's really that actual emphasis on it to treat this like they do extremist Islamic terrorism in this country. Because they were very quick to thwart a mass casualty attack in Los Angeles with a man who had recently converted to Islam, who was seeking retribution for the mosque attacks in New Zealand. And he was basically wanting to attack white nationalists, Jews, churches, military bases. It was like he was trying to get everybody. Right. But on the other end, though, just to interject here, But on the other end, though, just to interject here, the FBI, as you know, as you're saying, where they're when they're targeting Islamic communities or Muslim communities, they've they've totally shat the bed on that several times, like paying informants to try to make people radical. Right. Do you guys remember those stories a few years like in new york right yeah a lot of entrapment going on uh so they're going above and beyond uh the rules of justice and logic to you know occasionally entrap islamic terrorists in the united states and they're so
Starting point is 00:31:59 busy focusing on that and spending money on that, that they are not catching some of the white nationalist terrorists. Yeah. You know, that's a, seems like a thing that's from the top down. I think we've covered recently that they took away funding from the initiative of, yeah, DHS and white nationalists. And their ability to coordinate with local law enforcement on assessing these kinds of threats.
Starting point is 00:32:22 And, you know, when you talk about this kind of, this story, right? Like the FBI is becoming very alarmed because the time it takes from somebody to begin interacting with like these materials and then becoming fully radicalized and possibly enacting some kind of lone wolf attack has become like shorter and shorter. Right. And there aren't, they aren't really, when people are like, yo, a lot of this shit is happening on HN, why aren't you doing it? The sort of the main thing for the FBI is that, look, you know, hate speech isn't illegal.
Starting point is 00:32:55 So they can't really open a terror investigation based on activity that's protected by the First Amendment. And now that's sort of the logic that's being applied to this. But repeatedly, we've seen over and over that's sort of the logic that's being applied to this but repeatedly we've seen over and over that there's a very much concentrated place where a lot of this activity is happening where people are becoming radicalized or interacting with this kind of you know material yeah uh yeah i mean they should just be monitoring 8chan like tom cruise and minority report monitoring those uh pre-cons yeah right just ready to fucking fire
Starting point is 00:33:26 out of a cannon anytime somebody puts a manifesto up because yeah they don't seem to be fucking around uh and they definitely seem to uh respect the rights of white nationalists to express themselves more than uh radical islamic well yeah no kidding now you see it but it's like you know the radicalization is just increasing on both ends of the spectrum higher and higher and you know when you think of like the lack of resources or proper emphasis uh from law enforcement it's like then what happens if these attacks or people who are perpetrating these attacks they begin outnumbering the ability of law enforcement even monitor these things and then you know, that's what's really frightening.
Starting point is 00:34:05 Don't you think that the average person just watching television now is, even if they're not really thinking about it, surely everyone has caught on to this tendency, right? Like the white shooter is called mentally ill or something, and then the other people are called a terrorist, right? But this is a rise of terrorism. I was looking at some statistics recently and already in 2019, the statistics indicate that that if there is a mass shooting in this country, it's over. It's more likely to be a white nationalist or a white, like, racially motivated
Starting point is 00:34:48 murderer. So, yeah, I don't, like, it's the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Is it too much to ask that they investigate just occasionally? Yeah, well, I think as the, again, I think with the frequency, you'd hope that that becomes, that if the president isn't taking that action, that maybe people internally at the Bureau are just out of a sense of decency to protect the people. And it's not just this president. the FBI for domestic terror and right-wing terror following Charlottesville. This dude saw that the next place that Richard Spencer was going to appear was in his town and he was a cop. And so he started calling around to try and get the information and all the background on Richard Spencer and all the people who were like white nationalist terrorists. And he found there weren't they that the Obama administration basically
Starting point is 00:36:06 backed down and apologized for raising the issue rather than just being like nah man like no I'm looking at facts yes so they basically had to scrap that I mean they didn't have to but be acting as politicians you know the Obama administration just sort of did the thing that they knew would cause the least drama. No turbulence. Don't want to rock the boat too much. And now we're dealing with that. And we have a president who thinks there are some very fine people who might get caught up if we start arresting people. And is even doubling down on that, too.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Because, again, someone was like, do you still think they were good? He was like, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The answer was perfect, if you remember. He tripled down. Yeah. You know what I mean? I don't know if he fully remembers what he said earlier, but he's been consistent on that point.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah. Well, let's talk about the Obama administration, because like we said, his grandfather, Joe Biden, just dropped a new ad. So it's Joe Biden's campaign ad. So it must star Joe Biden, just dropped a new ad. So it's Joe Biden's campaign ad. So it must star Joe Biden, right? Well, yeah. Well, here. I mean, just listen to this and tell me if this sounds. Look, listen to Joe Biden's new campaign ad.
Starting point is 00:37:19 This is an extraordinary man with an extraordinary career in public service. This is an extraordinary man with an extraordinary career in public service. Somebody who has devoted his entire professional life to service to this country. He revitalized American manufacturing as the head of our middle class task force. He fought to make college more affordable. He voted for mass incarceration. He suited up for our cancer moonshot, giving hope to millions of Americans. Joe's candid counsel has made me a better president. He led our It's On Us campaign against campus sexual assault. He championed landmark legislation to protect women from violence.
Starting point is 00:38:01 He led our efforts to combat gun violence. He could not have been a more effective partner in the progress that we've made. Alright, I'm in. Then Joe Biden comes in and just starts saying the emptiest stuff where he's like, we need ideas.
Starting point is 00:38:19 America is an idea bigger than any ocean. Larger than any giant. Hold on, hold on., what? Larger than any giant. Oh, hold on, hold on. My man, my man, my man. Say a fucking actual idea, please. Yeah, I think the one thing he did say that was somewhat on wax,
Starting point is 00:38:34 didn't he mention unions? Yeah, yeah. So he mentions unions. He rides with them, and they support him. There's a lot of Clinton 2016 in this ad, though. It's showing a bunch of different smiling faces and just putting out broad platitudes and just being like, if you liked Obama, then you will love this guy. It's literally just being like, remember these days?
Starting point is 00:39:00 Yeah. What about that? And look, I get all the nostalgia around Biden. Yeah. But he's very much demonstrated that he has already hit peak ideas. And not to say that he doesn't have a worldview that would be positive for the country, but it's not forward thinking enough. And look, there are other candidates that are also older, but they have ideas that are new, at least to this system. Right. And so those are a little bit more interesting to me than someone who, you know, I pretty much get what their whole platform and agenda is going to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:30 But isn't he like deep, deep, like ride or die level with insurance companies? Oh, yeah. A couple of other big players. And credit card industry. Hello, Delaware. You know what I mean? Oh, that's right. All the credit card companies ran out.
Starting point is 00:39:43 He's not going to pull up to them. Right. delaware you know i mean his whole state where all the credit card companies ran out he's not gonna pull up to them so again i get everybody the the even the sound of obama's voice i think makes most people who are on the left go oh fuck god i miss this shit yeah i gotta be that and i think that's why his he's polling so well and look i do think old dogs can learn new tricks but joe biden will have to show me a shitload of new tricks like he would have to be like sea walking hitting them folks uh millie rocking many new things to show me that joe biden is up on 2019 yeah uh but you know he's still i mean his polling numbers are out there yeah yeah no people people like a grandfatherly dude who just smiles and makes it look like he has some Werther's Originals in his pocket. And is trying to press his head into your skull. He's like, come on, let me get in that mind of yours.
Starting point is 00:40:35 That's the thing. I got to ask with that, just on you guys' take here, what's going on? I have to admit right now as the people line up for the primaries, I've been a little, I don't want to say out of the loop, but I've been giving it time to develop because I'm like, all right, man, I'm not emotionally ready to gamble on one of these 20 people yet. Get it down to like five and then I can make a decision. But why wasn't there more backlash about the, the different stuff with him invading people's personal space? Is it just the context of politics now?
Starting point is 00:41:11 Because the president is that times a million or what? Well, I think the Overton window is completely fucked because of the president. So a guy who's just like, kind of like hugging too long and doing other weird stuff doesn't seem, I think for the most part, it's the establishment that wants him so bad. Yeah. They're not going to hold him accountable.
Starting point is 00:41:30 The only people that were really raising the alarm on that were people who were further to the left than Biden. Yeah. Because those are the people who sort of get the nuances of people's personal space and like this man entering people's personal space? I think the backlash to that criticism was particularly strong for the reason Miles just mentioned, that people want Biden to... They just want to beat Trump by any means necessary, and he seems like the safest,
Starting point is 00:41:59 like the biggest hammer that the Democrats can wield against him. I also heard a lot of people, not just like on Fox News, but even people out in the world talking about, it was almost like a willful conflating the criticism of Biden kissing people on the back of the head and doing weird shit
Starting point is 00:42:20 with like the Me Too movement. They're like, well, it's not like he's Weinstein. And I heard like a woman say like, like you know this is getting out of hand now we can't even like do and it's almost like we're nobody was saying what he was doing was the same as the crimes yeah you're just pointing out they're like that's an invasion of personal space you need to fucking that you should be willing to apologize for it yeah. But again, I think it's very, it's early days. And, you know, I think most people really do just think of there's something soothing about the idea of Joe Biden. So I get the psychology of people being really interested in him.
Starting point is 00:42:58 But I think, yeah, once they're all in the debate stage and they're actually presenting what their visions are, I think it'll be easier, hopefully be easier for people to be like, hmm, I don't know if he's coming with it. Yeah. But I don't know. Polling suggests, you know, I'm kind of an outlier when it comes to my own ideology in that sense. Yeah. But the majority of people are very interested. There's this great distinction I want to make here. distinction I want to make here for for a while. I don't know if you guys read this, but for a while The Onion would run articles on a very different Joe Biden, who is like this this burned out former
Starting point is 00:43:33 hard rock roadie. I got to I got to send you these things that Joe Biden, the guy who like tries to sell dirt weed outside of the White house and stuff uh that guy i would vote for in a second i just don't think he's the same as as the bank buddy from delaware you know so i'm skeptical yeah or the guy who by way of compromise or in order to achieve compromise fucked anita hill over uh when yeah you know absolutely because he's he likes to stay friends with everyone, both on the right and the left. Another problem that we haven't mentioned yet that Biden is going to have to work on, probably not quite as big as the ones that we were talking about, is that when he gave his first speech, he sounded somewhat Trumpian. And we have a clip of this i want to thank uh rich Fitzgerald the county executive of algetty county executive for being here and all my time
Starting point is 00:44:33 in public life from this i've gotten involved the country wasn't built by wall street bankers ceos and hudson and hedge fund managers if the enterprise hits hard times, everybody took a hit. Union workers, the UAW... Basically, what you're hearing there is him sounding drunk, which is something we've noticed Trump does occasionally in speeches. And the
Starting point is 00:44:57 cause of that is people have speculated is that his teeth are probably falling out. Maybe he's got some new chompers. i'm not you know i think he's got he's got some loose dentures but i don't know i mean yeah there's you know let the man slur you know yeah it's weird when you isolate it but yeah yeah yeah it's like that was obvious that was a highlight reel put together by uh i think a right wing website oh they're like oh your guy slurs too, so what about that? Oh, they didn't mention that Trump slurs.
Starting point is 00:45:26 They were just like, is Sleepy Joe drunk on the job? Or, you know, whatever. They got dentures, man. Yeah. Do you have any elderly family who have dentures? Oh, I have dentures, man. You didn't know I have dentures? Those are dentures?
Starting point is 00:45:40 Yeah, bro. Why are they all crooked? Wow. Why are they all crooked? You should get them shit straight, bro. Yeah, but i do like the idea that uh biden and trump were like talking about who like i'd take him out back and kick his ass like before they had any sort of fist fight they would like both take their teeth out all right let's not let's not fuck around here these are expensive put them on the table it's's like the old white guy version of taking off your earrings and your shoes, right?
Starting point is 00:46:07 Right. Yeah. Or like an old duel. It's the old glove slap. But with dentures? But you take your dentures out. All right. The GOP has come up with their playbook for 2020.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Seems like it. Seems like point at plans for expanding Medicare and addressing climate change and scream socialism. Yeah, I think that's good. Yeah. And then also along with that is to not offer any alternative to that. It's just scream at that big socialism. And that should work because they've been trying it. at that socialism and that should work because they've been trying it uh i mean it works on their base since they're all convinced that that's the reason why venezuela is in the condition that it's in now if you look at all the takes on what's happening like see what socialism does
Starting point is 00:46:52 right see what socialism does not economic blockades put in place by the united states and the eu in order to install a leader that might allow the plunder of their precious precious crude oil i don't know but that's a whole other story. Right. So, yeah, the socialist attack, look, it did not work. In Politico, they had an article where they're showing, like, in Pennsylvania, that was, like, their midterm strategy. It's like, yo, these people just hit them on socialism. Hit them on that. They want to talk about health care. Call them pinkos, socialists, communists, whatever the new phrase is.
Starting point is 00:47:21 And that led to double-digit losses in both in both like the governor's race and senate races and then they even lost like seats in the house and senate the state legislature congress this is not really a good plan if anything it seems to be making it more popular because i don't know there's they just don't have a they don't have an alternative right and it's just it's a really odd strategy strategy to just be like nah no, that's that's lame. And that's I don't think that's going to motivate enough people. But it seems like they're still really attached to this plant. Yeah. I mean, there's something about conservatism that rejects or resists moving on from the way it was. And, you know, their ideal place is 1950s made up America, like Pleasantville, America, where you could still accuse someone of communism and have a pretty good chance of getting them put in jail.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Yeah. And burned at the stake for tried for witchcraft. Is it that the party like their only new ideas are about being cruel to people, like marginalized people? I think those are the only new ideas I see. Well, I do think that when you're the incumbent, you're less pushing like actual policy because you're just like, read it and weep, ladies. Right. But even like in the presidential race, it was more like, I mean, sure, there was like that fake populism going on too but even like the people in the debate i don't know there's just something about even just the way i see conservative conservativism now yeah uh the only new creative ideas are just about cruelty yeah it's populism vague economic populism yeah i would
Starting point is 00:49:02 say neo-feudalism is the end goal for at least a lot of um like the coke brothers that that we shouted out at the top of the show you know they're pretty they're pretty blatant and explicit at least when when speaking in private fundraisers right when they are not doing a a speech for the hoi polloi or whatever. There are two different faces of the movement or of the school of thought. And the public is being sold on this idea of, as you said, Jack, this romanticized or largely fictional version of some 1950s society. 1950s society. But the weird thing is, back then in that post-World War II boom, there were many more, dare we call them socialist-like policies in the U.S., and they were to the advantage of the people who lived there, you know? It's just, I just, I can't do it, guys. I don't know what the new ideas are. The new ideas are all like repackaging of old ideas.
Starting point is 00:50:08 And I don't mean old ideas as in just like gerrymandering and segregation. I do straight up mean feudalism, moving the poor away from a an ownership economy into a service economy. Don't own things. You just rent them. You pay a service economy. You don't own things. You just rent them. You pay a service. Privatizing everything. I don't understand how no one is, I don't understand how anyone is able to avoid being fucking terrified
Starting point is 00:50:33 when you go to something that's like a government function and you see how privatized it's become, like searching for stuff on DDS or the DMV, whatever they call it in your state, or like even paying taxes the irs.gov site refers you to all these privatized sites that are clearly owned by people associated with congress it's it's shit it's shit all the way down i don't know what we're gonna do
Starting point is 00:50:57 sorry off so i don't know it sounds like you're a socialist yeah that's um and that's the and that's the tactic right and you heard that guy man he's spinning his wheel this guy's a socialist so what's this guy talking about equity uh let's talk real quick about a place that ben might want to move and that's venezuela uh because they may be uh they venezuela is in the news uh because yesterday there was a lot of conflict. Yeah, Guaido essentially was calling for the military to rise up. Right. People took to the streets and the takes came in.
Starting point is 00:51:37 John Bolton and everybody was like, we stand behind the people of Venezuela or whatever. They're just basically being like, we're ready to come in at some point. Right. And, you know, most people are like, has anybody seen our track record on intervention in South and Central America? Yeah. It does not end well for anybody. And so it's just, yeah, I mean, as we record now, I mean, things are, I don't know where
Starting point is 00:52:01 things stand. I mean, I saw some reports where Maduro was saying that, or the military said that they had successfully fought off this coup attempt, or as they call it. You know, I don't know what, I don't know where they stand right now. I think John Bolton was supposed to give some kind of remarks from Sesame Street with the other Muppets, but we'll know soon. Yeah, there's supposedly today there's going to be a bunch of protests. Guaido is saying it's going to be the biggest protests in the history of the country and a turning point and basically promoting the idea that there be an overthrow or a people's uprising. And Maduro does not seem to think that's a great idea so i mean it's no way it's almost
Starting point is 00:52:48 like a scheduled civil war like they're like okay this is when we're all gonna do the thing now that we all disagree on and we'll have guns for yeah oh so john bolton did say we want as our principal objective a peaceful transfer of power but quote all options are on the table so yeah uh and he says that the u.s is prepared to use the military option to support juan guido in venezuela uh a terrible idea yeah uh but yeah i think it's economic warfare i think you guys hit the nail on the head earlier. I mean, without being an expert in the internal politics of Venezuela, looking at, as you said, the U.S. track record, which, you know, our interventions in South America are to a large part enabled by the same guy who popularized bacon as a breakfast food, Edward Bernays. So I guess I guess McDonald's should thank him venezuela should curse him i know i'm bringing it back full circle wow that that's true the the dude who that is true yeah he was
Starting point is 00:53:53 like a marketing genius right yeah the father of pr he wrote a book called propaganda where the argument is basically like people tell people what to think and make them think it was their idea. And yeah, he's somewhere between a genius and a monster. Not mutually exclusive. But yeah, he did. He popularized bacon. He's the reason that the U.S. went to stage some coups in the 1950s, 1954 in particular. What else did he do?
Starting point is 00:54:23 Oh, he popularized smoking tobacco with women. He associated it with women's suffrage. You guys would, I mean, you guys would find this dude interesting to hang out with. He's dead. Right. Thankfully. Yeah. Still sounds cool to hang out with.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Yeah, definitely. Seems like a cool hang. Exhumed corpses. A lot of story. A lot of stories. All right. We're going to take one more break. We'll be right back. like a cool hang exhumed corpses a lot of story a lot of stories okay uh all right we're gonna take one more break we'll be right back Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017
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Starting point is 00:59:23 Oh, is that right? Yeah. So there's a website called faithwire.com, which you might assume just documents all faiths, all manners of faith. Turns out, no. They say it's not okay to promote a modesty culture because they think it's oppressive, but then they also seem to object that they're only promoting Islam when they don't promote Mormonism or fundamentalist Christianity.
Starting point is 00:59:51 So they seem to really be taking sides for some reason, even though they're supposed to be covering faith. They had a quote from Lalo Dagich, which is a real person, apparently a radio host, Lalo Dagich, which is a real person, apparently a radio host, tweeted, which religious modesty culture will you promote next? Evangelical Christian, Catholic, Mormon, Amish, Orthodox Jewish, or will it just be Islam? It's just going to be Islam, isn't it? You know, because he's just used to, as a Christian male white, he's used to being persecuted in his own mind. Oh. So he's just like, oh, more of this. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:32 Let me guess. More just- You should hang out with Stephen Moore. Yeah. Yeah. It sounds like- What's next, man? Our wives at our bachelor parties?
Starting point is 01:00:42 That's right. Jesus. This guy sounds like a blast at parties. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, oh, I didn't know Sports Illustrated changed their name to Sharia Law Illustrated. Right. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 01:00:53 I'm sure people on Twitter were also having a fucking time about that. Oh, yeah. What is this? Yeah. So, you know, it's just another little bullshit. Make them up in the culture wars. I'm sure Ben Shapiro will have something to say too. Yeah. And speaking of the culture wars, another, probably the most controversial event of the past week was the dropping of the trailer for the new sonic movie
Starting point is 01:01:29 sonic the restaurant yes they're doing a movie about the those two guys in the car yeah it's them talking for 90 minutes uh it's about slushies or icies or whatever the fuck they got over there it's a bigger uh cinematic universe for fast food. Right, right, right. Did you know those guys were actually the ad executives who pitched that ad? And they were like, nailed it, guys. You guys are the best. Really? Yeah, or they were part of the ad agency.
Starting point is 01:01:56 Well, because they're comedians, right? One of them is. And the other one started out as an ad exec and then tried to launch his career once he became that Sonic guy. Yeah. I tried to. What are you talking about? That guy is at the top. Well, and the reason we're bringing him up is he is playing.
Starting point is 01:02:15 No, he's, I don't know what he's doing in his career. But Sonic the Hedgehog, actually, Miles. Oh. Staple of my childhood. Sonic the Hedgehog, actually, Miles. Oh. Staple of my childhood. And you actually, you said you thought it was kind of a well-executed.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I mean, look, I didn't have Sega Genesis, so I'm not as offended as some of the people I see on just the internet. Right. I don't think it's going to be a good film, but the marketing is kind of interesting because you're mashing up all these things like 90s kids would have like can recognize which is the sonic the hedgehog obviously right then you have jim carrey uh who's you know robotnik he is doing some very jim carrey stuff in the trailer hell yeah and you're like enjoyably so very right it's ace it's it's old jim carrey ace ventura style and then to
Starting point is 01:03:02 cap it all off they got the soundtrack they, they got Gangster's Paradise playing in the trailer. Which thematically, not totally clear how that connects back to Sonic the Hedgehog. But I guess it never has connected to anything that tried to use it, like Dangerous Minds, I guess. Yeah, those kids are out there. Yeah, those kids are out there. Yeah, those kids are out there. But, you know, I like there was a, it seemed like an aggressive Puma product placement
Starting point is 01:03:29 shot when he's like gearing up to go. There's like a shot from his shoes up and he's wearing Pumas and I'm like, oh. Sonic the Hedgehog wears Pumas? Wow. It seems like they could have made up a cooler shoe for him to wear. Yeah. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I guess people are, people are just like weirded out by it,
Starting point is 01:03:46 I guess. Yeah, I mean, they haven't totally executed, like somebody, I think Nick Wiger pointed out that his vision of Sonic does not have two eyes. It has more like ski goggle eyes, like one big eye with two pupils that is like connected by a thinner part of the eye. Sure.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Which is how he was always illustrated. And then they create this stupid looking Sonic that has two eyes. It looks rough. It looks really rough. I'm watching the trailer without the sound on now. Yeah. When you guys pulled it up and uh it's like it's like the version of uh that old meme where you know the kid's like mom can we go get some food can we go
Starting point is 01:04:34 out to eat they're like we have food at home and the food at home is garbage man this sonic looks real hard it's like yeah we got sonic at home and it's like what the fuck is this right motherfucker you want to play with sonic sure you do here he is yeah i'll make it i can make. And it's like, what the fuck is this? Right. Motherfucker. You want to play with Sonic? Sure you do. Here he is. Yeah, I'll make it. I can make that. Yeah, it's, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:50 But there are parts of it. It's like a homemade Halloween costume. Yeah, it does look like it's a first draft. Yeah, it's just, I don't know. I like how some people are just like, this new movie can fuck right off. This is fucking, what the fuck was that? I mean, I hate this. I'm like, whoa.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Some of my favorite people on Twitter are like that too. Like Pixelated Boat is like that. He's not too happy. Yeah, I don't know if anyone could win because what we saw as Sonic based on the Genesis games and the cover art and even the cartoons was nothing that you could actually envision what it would look like if it was meant to be a little more three-dimensional. Right. So you wouldn't know what his hair looks like. Is it hair? Because this is like a bunch of blue triangles to me.
Starting point is 01:05:36 You know? And then like so they were – it wasn't – I don't think a game they could win. Yeah. Just like how I think people were a little weirded out seeing the Detective Pikachu rendering, but people seem to be coming around to the Pikachu thing more. I don't know. Yeah, Pikachu I think looks good,
Starting point is 01:05:50 but I had never really spent a lot of time picturing what Pikachu would look like in reality. You say that now. Yeah. Right. Sure.
Starting point is 01:05:58 Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't have fan art, so it's not like it. You mean you don't have a tattoo? Doesn't bother me, Miles. Okay okay might look different from my tattoo but doesn't bother me but that's my version because i'm a man i'm an adult now let me have i'm past you is what my uh therapist says uh so many memes but there's also so some some reasons to not be quite so quick to just reject this outright. Ben, I always want to call him Ben Joseph.
Starting point is 01:06:32 Ben Schwartz, the very funny Ralph. John Ralphio. John Ralphio from Parks and Rec. That's the only thing he's done. And also BB-8, BB-8's voice from the Star Wars films is voicing Sonic the Hedgehog. And there's just some good comedic talent in addition to Jim Carrey, vintage Jim Carrey. It's written by one of the dudes from the Doughboys podcast, not one of the hosts, but one of the frequent guests and the commissioner of their annual tournament.
Starting point is 01:07:11 Who's that? Evan Susser. Oh, don't know that name, but I'll trust it. The part in the trailer where he rolls up in a ball and fucks some shit up, I was here for it, and I will probably not see this movie because I don't see movies anymore because I'm a father, but, you know.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Wow, you're blaming your kids? Yeah, because I just don't have any free time because of these damned kids. Happy birthday, son. You're taking them to that new Tarantino, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, they're big Tarantino fans. Yeah, you got to learn them young.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Like, they cry less when watching that than some other R-rated films I've shown them. How old did you say he is? Three? He's three today, actually. Oh, all right. Just three. Hey, he's ready to watch Eraserhead by David Lynch. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:00 And he's prime Tarantino demographic, too, man. Oh, yeah. I mean, Tarantino definitely had a three-year-old in mind when he made- Pulp Fiction? No, not Pulp Fiction. Pulp Fiction was more like two-year-old demo. Yeah, yeah. Reservoir Dogs, though, I feel like. The way Mr. White bleeds out slowly in the background and is just like you can, you can feel the visceral pain that feels like a three-year-old movie.
Starting point is 01:08:29 And then you look at him after and go, nothing is permanent. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Lifeless. That's how we learn in our household. Mr.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Tarantino. Ben, Ben, and Magoo. It's been such a pleasure having you, man. Where can people find you, follow you,
Starting point is 01:08:45 listen to you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You can follow my adventures on Instagram as I get kicked into and out of various countries, at Ben Bolin. You can check out our show, Stuff They Don't Want You To Know, wherever you, like, we're all over the internet. We're wide rife or whatever. And then, of course, if you are a fan of Miles and Jack themselves, you can check these guys out on our two-part episode on Ridiculous History
Starting point is 01:09:12 about some of the weirdest flexes in human history. And there are some bizarre. There's some flexing going on throughout history. We forgot the ancient art of the flex. The ancient art of the flex. The ancient art of the flex. Yeah, we go through just centuries to tell you about people who were doing the most. I'll never think of Darwin the same way again.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Oh, man. You took that from me, Jared. I apologize. Yeah, should we just tell people? It turns out he was a swinger. Yeah, yeah. Made love to every animal he discovered uh sorry that's weird uh anyways ben is there a tweet or a active social media you've
Starting point is 01:09:53 been enjoying uh i have been i you know i i fell into these weird novelty accounts on twitter it happens to the best of us and i've been been really digging a magic realism bot, which is as far as I can tell, just a robot that makes one word stories that make absolutely no sense. I am taken. I'm overwhelmed. It's great. And then of course, shout out to not a wolf who is just a, just, yeah, I'm sure you guys have heard of that. It's just a Twitter account in all caps by someone who wants to assure you that they are not a wolf. But they're clearly a wolf. You know what, man?
Starting point is 01:10:36 I'm not going to comment on their, I'm not going to put them in a box there. You know what I mean? And you said they're one word stories or they're? Oh, one sentence stories. So like stories, right? Like here's one. A coven of scholars invent a world where everything is Big Macs apropos to our episode.
Starting point is 01:10:55 But yeah, I think it's just another one. Sixty four Marxist. Imagine a lightning bolt into existence. It's just completely out of context, like keyword shuffling. I don't know what's going on, but I dig it. Awesome. Miles, where can people find you? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. A tweet I like is from Hannah Dickinson, comedian at Hans Dickie, H-A-N-S-D-I-C-K-I-E. She took a little clipping from an article that said, Rosario Dawson's beauty routine includes drinking clay.
Starting point is 01:11:27 And she responds with, is this what we're calling Cory Booker's cum now? Oh, my God. Too much. Oh, no. Nasty, but wow. Wow. That's a heater.
Starting point is 01:11:42 That is a heater. A couple tweets I've been enjoying uh while we're on the subject of uh the sonic movie pixelated boat tweeted prediction the sonic movie will make a trillion dollars by appealing directly to a generation of children raised on algorithmically generated youtube content uh which if you uh have kids you know what he's talking about youtube content is terrifying and weird and like definitely the the stories and the animations are all conceived by uh some non-human hive mind algorithm thing uh rob delaney tweeted my fellow hashtag big boys might get angry at me for telling you this but most men over six foot tall and or 200 pounds
Starting point is 01:12:27 have to use a beach towel or sleeping bag to thoroughly wipe our asses. What? And then at instant sunrise, Kissinger for The Hague 2019 tweeted, Valar Morghulis, Valar Dohaeris, Valar my ragtime gal.
Starting point is 01:12:49 You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our foot notes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on uh miles what song are we gonna ride out on
Starting point is 01:13:11 uh let's ride out on some jumanji j-o-o-m-a-n-j-i uh and this track is called where are you where you know where are you guys where are y'all let us know where you are and also a quick spoiler just skip ahead 15 seconds oh whoa are you. Are you going to spoil this for us? I just want to do the Ohai D. Roy tweet. They said... Oh, so this is a spoiler for something. Skip ahead. For anybody complaining about Arya appearing out of nowhere at the end of Game of Thrones,
Starting point is 01:13:40 they pointed out at us that Arya did appear out of nowhere, but it was the same spot she meets Jon when he gets back and he says, how did you sneak up on me? Or he could have just been thinking about he's got back. I don't know. She had a secret tunnel that she's
Starting point is 01:14:00 been digging since day one, Andy Dufresne style. With a spoon. Alright, we are going to ride out on that song. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. And we'll talk to you then. Bye. Bye. Bye. Thank you. I could meet someone who loved you.
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