The Daily Zeitgeist - Space Trash = Evidence of Aliens? Burger King Busting Ghosts 10.14.22

Episode Date: October 14, 2022

In episode 1351, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, actor, graphic artist, and comedian Steven Wilber, to discuss… HOW THE RIGHT NORMALIZES THEIR CRIMINALITY IN ORDER TO GET THE BASE TO FOLLOW, Bu...rger King Will Give You A Free Burger For Proving That There’s Life After Death, Crazy Story About Manmade Minerals Showing Up On Earth and more! HOW THE RIGHT NORMALIZES THEIR CRIMINALITY IN ORDER TO GET THE BASE TO FOLLOW Burger King Will Give You A Free Burger For Proving That There’s Life After Death Burger King customers spooked by green poop after eating the Halloween Whopper Here's How to Get a Free Whopper at Burger King This Month The Broken Technology of Ghost Hunting Crazy Story About Manmade Minerals Showing Up On Earth GET: 16 Bits by Steven Wilber WATCH: Militarized Sales Bros. LISTEN: Girl by FennecSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:26 Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist
Starting point is 00:01:42 mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady Rebel. Like, what does that even mean? It's right here in black and white in print. It's bigger than a flag or mascot. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 258, Episode 4 of Der Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. your podcasts. seasons yeah because we were off on monday but because we're also just spending way too much budget on these episodes yeah we went i don't know if you could tell but we spent a million on each one of these podcasts the last one cost three million alone just so i could
Starting point is 00:02:32 uh fucking uh get that juvenile instrumental juvenile yeah wow so anyway you deserve 10 14 22 10 14 10 14 good buddy. It's what a sweet day. National Dessert Day. National Real Sugar Day. And Be Bald and Be Free Day. Shout out to all the bald people out there. I seize you. Bald.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Be bald and be free. Okay. I like it. Do not put yourself in a cage of follicular impotence, as it were. It's also good that sugar is finally getting a day. I feel like we've been underutilizing that particular staple crop. It feels like something that the sugar lobby created in the 70s because of Sweet and Low. Oh, yeah. And they're like, because October 14th is National Real Sugar Day, and we celebrate the people who harvest sugar crops and learn about its origins.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Wait, like slavery? Anyway. Yeah. Is that really what you want to do? Hold on. Shadow slavery? Okay, never mind. Not that part.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Not that part. No, no, no. Yeah, and I guess they talk about, you know, what's sweetness? Fucking trash. All right. Well, shout out to Real Sugar. And desserts, was it? National desserts?
Starting point is 00:03:46 Yeah, desserts. More desserts and bald people. Shout out to the bald dessert people out there. There we go. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I got, I got, I got, I got loyalty. Got royalties inside my plumpy legs.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Cocaine cut with Fent. Got weighted fish inside these plumpy legs. I got sugar, mountain dew, and joy inside my plumpy legs. I got hustle, butt plug, flowing chest inside my plumpy legs i got sugar mountain doing joy inside my plumpy legs i got hustle butt plug flowing chest inside my plumpy legs i was born like this since one like this that mad boosty perception i transform like this perform like this was how stuff works new weapon i just contemplate i meditate then put the kids to bed lol the queen is dead this that I got I got I got I got That is courtesy of Lex Luffy Mr. Lugubrious himself
Starting point is 00:04:29 Shout out to you That was a good one Fire in the booth Fire in the booth As they say Shout out Yeah butt plug flowing chest inside my plumpy legs. That's all you need to know. Well, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, it's Miles Gray,
Starting point is 00:04:55 aka Miles High Stadium, because I will be in Denver, Colorado-ish area, just visiting some folks. But if you can can i've been asking online where are the soggiest fries in denver please tell me because look when i was in seattle i found them i found the best fucking soggy fries now i need some local soggy fry flavor in the mile high city you know just that general area let me know good to see everybody thank you mashed potato play-doh fries just yeah i'm starting to get a few recommendations you know but i mean i'm waiting for someone who understand like people are joking about once you go to in and out yeah okay i get that but i have
Starting point is 00:05:35 in and out here i want something local i want local softies local softies get them some local softies folks so not a euphemism. I'm just talking about fries, please. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests on TDZ, a very funny writer, graphic designer, illustrator, one of the funniest stand-up comedians doing it. His album, 16 Bits, is available wherever fine comedy albums can be streamed. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Stephen Wilber! Wilber! Yo yo what up it's it's your boy steven wilbur aka um oh man i'm i'm really pissed about this i don't know what's going on man i was gonna do the whole plump leg thing and now it's you had that whole verse i it's all right like this is i feel like this is a kesha katie perry situation where lex was right producing stuff for both of
Starting point is 00:06:33 us and just right yeah oh i thought you came up with that verse all on your own but yeah yeah okay i can see how the wires got crossed off the I'm too rich to do things off the dome. Come on. I have writers. I have people. I have a whole team. I got a kitty in my pocket. Steven, I'm loving your figurine collection that you got on your shelf behind you. You look like you have
Starting point is 00:06:57 many action figures. They're dolls. Oh, they're dolls? What kind of dolls are they? Real girl dolls? Well, X-Men dolls. What is the other one called? Oh, I said real girl dolls. Oh, they're dolls? What kind of dolls are they? Real girl dolls? Well, X-Men dolls. What is the other one called? Oh, I said real girl dolls. Not the sex toy. I meant American. Anyway. This is Cheyenne.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Respect. My relationship. What do you got up there? Is there a kaiju? Some comic book people? I got Cyclops right here. Okay. I got your boy Gambit. Oh, I got Juggernaut.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Juggernaut from that meme. I'm the Juggernaut. B word. Yeah. I got some, I got some Jojo's Bizarre Adventures. Okay. Jojo. Squirrel Girl.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Okay. Tamasutra. There you go. Oh, wow. Let's check out the congress of the cow later one of the greats national congress of the cow day oh yeah look out for it every year don't we let them know if i wanted to see congress of the cow i just turn it on c-span that's the sort of stuff you're going to be getting from Steven all day. Steven, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. All C-Span jokes. But first, we're going to
Starting point is 00:08:10 tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Droopy Caveman Body Guy. Things are bad. My ears are burning. Alex Jones, the other Droopy Guy. There's a lot of just crossover, but the other Droopy Crawler. Not the comic book character, droopy caveman body guy. But people are, he's become the latest cause celebrate on the right.
Starting point is 00:08:31 So we'll talk about that. And of course, we're going to talk about the latest Burger King release, the latest Burger King promo. It's a free burger for proving that there's life after death, which is not how I foresaw that, that proof coming, but yeah. Yeah. Why not? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Have it your way in the afterlife. All of that. Plenty more. But first, even we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Oh,
Starting point is 00:09:01 uh, why overwatch merge queue resetting merge yeah they're with overwatch 2 they totally overrid uh overwatch 1 you can't even play overwatch 1 now but now with this overwatch 2 they're making you merge your accounts if you're playing it on PC, you're playing it on PlayStation. And this merge process is totally just screwing the dog. And I
Starting point is 00:09:33 feel I'm scared. I'm scared this is going to happen, that I'm going to lose all my skins. And then what? And you'd have to buy them all over again? You didn't buy any of these skins, right? You're not buying them, are you? No, I got them in loot boxes
Starting point is 00:09:49 that you win for being the best. Okay, good. I like you go, Axie, man, I'm upside down. I am upside down on buying these Overwatch skins, man. I'm in big, big trouble. This is like Bitcoin all over again
Starting point is 00:10:05 So the merge queue Is like literally like you have to queue up to merge Accounts or whatever It says like you're 20,000 in line And then it goes down to like You know it'll go down You're 67 in line You're 3, you're 2, you're 1
Starting point is 00:10:22 You're 20,000 Again So it's like trying to get on truth social You're three. You're two. You're one. Oh, you're 20,000 again. Oh, so it's like trying to get on truth social when it was like all waiting lists. It's like, yeah, you're number 63,000. You're number 163,000. Wow. That's frustrating. That seems like it's actually a customer service problem that was like designed to infuriate people.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Like that feels like a skunk works in the building where they're just like, they don't pay us enough, so let's just really antagonize our users here with this. Which is probably true. They probably don't. They just don't have it staffed. I don't think the good people at Activision Blizzard
Starting point is 00:11:01 would do that. No, certainly not. They're one of the most scandal-free game developers I can think of. What was their scandal? Was that the one where people were having to crawl through? Dude, the boss. Remember the Cosby suite?
Starting point is 00:11:15 The fucking guy who was running is an absolute fucking ghoul and all this sexual harassment shit. The state of California is like, y'all are fucking up terribly as employers yeah and then as that all that shit went down microsoft bought them and he got away just with a fat paycheck dude wildest paycheck yeah well his vision was certainly active you know but if i can't play my blue Lucio skin,
Starting point is 00:11:45 I drop a white bear. Thank you. What is a blue Lucio skin? Well, he's a blue frog. Well, he's a Brazilian DJ, but he's in a blue frog costume.
Starting point is 00:12:00 That's fun. Okay, shout out to the Lucio frog skin. Oh, wow. Wait, the DJ does? Yeah, and I feel like I'm mansplaining this to Jack Who's, I mean, he's The gameriest of gamers Yeah, yeah, I'm just doing that, you know You know what would appeal to him?
Starting point is 00:12:17 What's that? Lucio's suit, he got big plumpy thighs with that exoskeleton on Wow The legs do look bulkier Exactly, so you might fuck with the Lucio skin plumpy thighs with that exoskeleton on. Wow. The legs do look bulkier. Respect the plumpy thighs. Exactly. So you might fuck with the Lucio skin. What's something you think is overrated? Activision Blizzard.
Starting point is 00:12:35 This is going to be a vendetta. This is going to be a death jam vendetta. Oh, great game. Great game. I always played as Method Man in that one. Joe Budden was also a playable character, if I'm not mistaken, Oh, great game. Great game. I always played as Method Man in that one. Joe Budden was also a playable character, if I'm not mistaken, in that video game, which was one of the, I think, great hip-hop,
Starting point is 00:12:52 early hip-hop fighting games. Obviously, there was Shaq Fu before that that we all should get down on. Who did Shaq Fu fight in the fighting game? Like monsters. It wasn't like he was dropkicking Mugsy Bogues or anything.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Shaq Fu was the worst 2D fighting game. It looked like shitty Mortal Kombat. Yeah, they just skinned an early demo version of Mortal Kombat and put Shaq on top of it. Yeah, it's always funny. Shaq
Starting point is 00:13:25 is... Like a mummy with spiky football pads. You have a lot of great character design. Shaq doesn't strike me as somebody I want to be in a fighting game.
Starting point is 00:13:41 It reminds me of the story where he like stole steve nash's abc show from him right like the premise only fits steve nash steve nash is like this athlete who can play all these different sports and games and is like really great at it but like shack was just way more charismatic than him so abc was like we'll give it to you if you want it shack but he's not like an athlete who can do all the different things. So it was like very just didn't fit. Nor does like what would if it was Mortal Kombat, but with Shaq.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Like that feels like a pitch that I was like, I mean, I guess. Yeah. The names. It's like you could fight Kaori, or Beast, or Colonel. Right. Or Raja, or Miphi. There's this, like, there's one character called Voodoo, and I'm sure just a bunch of really historically accurate depictions of these characters.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Yeah, yeah, very sensitive. Actually, a breakthrough in cultural depictions of various cultures. He gets his own game, but dude can't even win to Aaron Carter. So what's that about? I don't know that reference. You don't remember when Aaron Carter sang the fable of how he beat Shaq? No, I don't remember that. I didn't know I wasn't talking to him
Starting point is 00:15:08 about the cartographers. I mean, I remember. Wasn't it like a track, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. It wasn't a tell-all memoir. Yeah, how I beat Shaq. I'm like, wait, was that the book, Aaron Carter, How I Beat Shaq, or that dumb single
Starting point is 00:15:24 that he had? And I'm like, wait, is that the book Aaron Carter, How I Beat Shaq, or that dumb single that he had? And it was just a tale of how he beat Shaq in basketball? The song's called That's How I Beat Shaq. Okay. And it's just really like insider basketball, like footwork discussions. Oh, yeah. Drop step. Yo, guys, check it out.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Guess what happened to me? Another crazy story. Come on, yeah. Drop step. Yo, guys, check it out. Guess what happened to me? Another crazy story. Come on, AC. I was hanging at the court just playing some ball, working on my game. Yeah, we heard it all. I heard the fans scream and I thought it was for me. But then I saw a shadow. It was 12 foot three. It was Shaquille O'Neal. What? What did he say? How about some one on one? You want to play? I told him, why not? I got some time. But when I beat you real bad, try not to cry. It's like, Jesus Christ. What? It's wild when you can, like, when the bars are so weak, upon first reading, you already know the exact flow of it. Well, here's the thing. It's not even a rap. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:16:22 Could you imagine? He's like, scared of Shaq, psych him out. He's like, there are runs in those lines. Like he's going on runs. I mean, but it's why there's no like thing about,
Starting point is 00:16:33 I was like, yeah, you know, like, you know, force him to his left or anything like that. Like something really basketball related. It's like,
Starting point is 00:16:39 I slammed on him and that's how I beat Shaq. I put a nail in his shoe. Right. I said, yo said yo shack you didn't tie your shoelace he looked down i stole the ball i'm taking him to school now watch me y'all okay thanks i wonder if any coach just you know googling late night before a game came across this song and listened to it to see if there were any you know they, they're like, how do you, how do you prepare for Shaq? All right, guys. Just wipes off the whiteboard. We got a new play.
Starting point is 00:17:14 Tell it said, you got to say this. Yo Shaq, you didn't tie your shoelace and then steal the ball after that. Okay. Then is that really the plot of the song? Yo, it said, I had a plan. I could change the pace i said yo shack you didn't tie your shoelace wow you look down i stole the ball i take him into school now watch me y'all that's like first of all you're not fucking dunking on shack aaron carter
Starting point is 00:17:37 right i want look that like i don't know why i'm now starting to get really angry that aaron carter is like see now this is a real big tough guy energy from Aaron Carter. Yeah. You're not beating Shaq. This deserves a Miles chokehold. Slithering behind. Miles sleeper move. I think the man's been through enough.
Starting point is 00:17:56 Yeah, maybe. That's probably fair. And hey, maybe he's not right since he beat Shaq. And that's why he's answering for that. Yeah, flew too close to the sun. Yeah. Was Shaq involved in this song? Like, is it Aaron Carter featuring Shaq and that's why he's answering for that original close to the sun yeah was Shaq involved in this song like is it Aaron Carter featuring Shaq that would be so funny because if not they're doing Shaq's voice which is an unlicensed diss track like uh he's in the video
Starting point is 00:18:20 I believe okay it would make sense like I'm I wonder if it was like overlapping agency representation or something. They're like, Shaq, you might as well do this. We can get you a licensing check because they're going to name check you, but the network's paying for it, so everybody wins. I mean, it's not how I scored one bucket on Shaq. No, it's how I beat the shit out of Shaquille O'Neal in basketball. It implies that he repeatedly is able to use the, Hey,
Starting point is 00:18:45 your, your shoelaces untied. Well, that's one of the points, which is disrespectful as fuck to, to Shaq. I mean, honestly,
Starting point is 00:18:53 I think you can only get away with that twice. Right? Shaq, not in addition to being one person. And this is peak Shaquille. Like this is, he, he looks at Shaq with hair.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Yeah. He has hair and looks pretty trim. This is Blue Chips era Shaq. Right. I believe this is Lakers era Shaq. Oh, yeah, this is Lakers era Shaq, for sure. This is the only reason they would do that song. But, hold on, what was the score at one point?
Starting point is 00:19:19 They showed the scoreboard? In this... Okay, so... Shaq 119 119 117 so eric carter put up 117 points on shack that's fourth period though that's fourth period yeah fourth period not fourth quarter okay and yeah like there's nothing again that's i don't know why we're treating this like some actual tactical analysis on how to be shaquille o'neal in basketball when it was like and then i did a slam i did a three-pointer you know no one was
Starting point is 00:19:51 doing that you're doing that i know i'm having it oh my god they just showed his shot yo his shot was trapped under hands what is that oh no no see now shack shack i'm gonna pull your car bro shack you could not you should not have let this happen man i mean i guess aaron carter is uh wait it was a dream oh it was all a dream okay yeah he used to read word up magazine okay that makes sense thank god so the pro strat is to dream that you're beating shack yeah like that right i like that in the end it's like in your fucking dreams asshole yeah yeah i believe his mom said that we didn't we didn't hear the line from the mom in the video but it was it in your your dreams line is in your fucking dreams asshole oh oh okay but oh man it was all a dream i guess that kind of thing could have never
Starting point is 00:20:55 happened to me if it was a dream and it wasn't real how to get a jersey with a name O'Neal. Whoa! You die in the dream, you die in real life. Dude, your mom felt bad that you didn't even make Junior Varsity and you were crying on that. You didn't notice that she put the little Shaq jersey in there to make you feel better the next morning. A jersey with the name O'Neal.
Starting point is 00:21:20 It's like the most popular jersey in the city you live in right now. His mom's like, I got you that for your birthday last year. That's why it's there. Oh, damn. I knew it was real. I do wonder. It's interesting to me to like, I would love the oral history behind this.
Starting point is 00:21:34 You know how there are certain action heroes who won't die in their movies? They're like, I'll do it. Was this a note from Shaq that like, no do it if like was this a note from shack that like no it's a it's got to be a dream if i'm gonna participate in this song yeah he's like i'm not a little this little white kid beat me right which again i would like to see shack actually take aaron carter to fucking church yeah on the court yes so with that shot i've never i'm sorry y'all if y'all have ever seen somebody shoot a basketball please watch the music video because what the shooting mechanics of aaron carter i have no i can tell you i've never seen anything like this the version of this
Starting point is 00:22:14 song coming together that i had in my mind was completely blown up by seeing him shoot a basketball because my understanding was like he was he was somewhat like a pet played like a jack harlow kind of dude yeah like played in a ymca league at least and like that was something he loved basketball but this this seems like it was completely foisted on him and he had never picked up a basketball before this video so i don't know yeah it must have been conceived at an agency god damn the bar was so low man like this guy was a backstreet boys little brother and the next thing you know he has a music video where he's fucking shack up on the court they're having to cut around not only his basketball playing but his dancing like they the dance moves are even cut so you only see like
Starting point is 00:23:02 a singular dance move at a time i don't know why we're so incensed no why so hey man it was an interesting look what steven did we were supposed to talk about activision blizzard and we let them off the hook talking about aaron carter's jump shot imagine in the 70s if andy gibb had a song about beating kareem Abdul-Jabbar or something. My big brothers, they get all the fame. How am I going to do it? What is something you think is underrated, Stephen? Aaron Carter's game.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yeah, I think so. I think we can firmly say that. Just because he wasn't goosenecking in the video doesn't mean he wasn't scoring those points. He went from underhand to sidearm mid-shot. That's called versatility, baby. That's called a scoop up and under or something. He can't even really dance. Yeah, no, he can't dance at all.
Starting point is 00:23:59 This is all like, oh, I don't know. I don't even know what to say. Thank you for showing me oh hit that jump shot again thank you steven for showing me this because this is underrated i've it's been a while since something i was like passively dismissed from media like i look back and i'm like this could bring me out of a fucking coma because it makes me so angry yeah i don't know why also to suggest that you could score 119 points on shack with just the shoelace move also it's disrespectful to him
Starting point is 00:24:31 as a athlete also disrespectful to shack as a prankster somebody who prides himself on real dumb pranks real dumb sports pranks and uh you know he's not falling for that shit erin carter come on man come on erin man Aaron Carter's run on the Globetrotters was pretty lucrative though this is gonna be the next 45 minutes of the podcast although man you should see oh man I did forget he was in one of the
Starting point is 00:24:56 and one mixtapes though later on I remember for that shot we got a show to do people out there in radio land just look up the 30 for 30. Yeah, you'll love it. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together,
Starting point is 00:25:31 we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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Starting point is 00:29:32 I mean, we mentioned on a trending a couple of days ago that he is forced to pay close to a billion dollars in damages to the people whose lives he destroyed. Yeah. And I don't know, is noteworthy for being seemingly deserved consequences for a rich white celebrity who yeah just being you know libelous spreading just absolute nonsense you know drove one of the parents to take their own lives because of the fucking harassment you know what i mean like this is what this guy was doing and it's just wild right because when the far right isn't like crying and trying to convince like all their viewers that like drag queens are shooting old ladies because they have a nativity scene outside their house right they are also doing their best to just like normalize actual like illegal behavior so like for example right alex jones gets skull fucked legally with all these punitive damages and he has to pay for again constantly spreading lies that's leading to harassment and untold suffering from these parents who everyone is being told, oh, that's fake.
Starting point is 00:30:28 It's nonsense. These kids are like synthetic or whatever the fuck words that this guy was using. And we get it. The First Amendment protects your right to free speech. But like we I feel like people are always saying this to conservatives. Yeah, you have free speech. You don't have the fucking right to just spread Malicious bullshit that ends up In harassment and again
Starting point is 00:30:48 Who knows what Someone becoming so down that They felt that they couldn't bear to live anymore So that is why he has to pay All the money But the cavalry of like bullshitters have now arrived To sort of tell their followers This is actually an attack on your constitutional rights
Starting point is 00:31:04 You know But this is actually let's on your constitutional rights, you know, but this is actually, let's, let's be real. They're trying to normalize this illegal behavior and like obscure any sense of morality around the words you speak. So Marjorie Taylor green said, no matter what you think of Alex Jones,
Starting point is 00:31:16 all he did was speak words. He was not the one who pulled the trigger or his words wrong. And did he apologize? Yes. That's what freedom of speech is. Freedom to speak words. Political persecution must end. Mike Cernovich. Alex Jones killed
Starting point is 00:31:32 no one. He apologized for his erroneous reports, of which there weren't many there were. Nevertheless, nevertheless, in a trial where he wasn't allowed to defend himself on free speech grounds, because it doesn't apply, he's now being ordered to pay hundreds of millions of dollars. Stalin's ghost has returned.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Stalin's ghost has returned? Wouldn't it just be him? I feel he's trying to be poetic, maybe, but that's... I mean, when was the last time his ghost showed up? Was it when he was around? Right. Yeah, returned. His ghost has returned.
Starting point is 00:32:07 His ghost left. His ghost took off for a little bit. But the ghost is back. Oh, good. Okay, so that's what's happening. Oh, Stalin's ghost is back, y'all. That's what happened. That's what happened.
Starting point is 00:32:18 But I mean, again, I think everything they're saying is pretty much, it's bullshit. Except for, again, I think the one fact that they have is Alex Jones didones did not commit the actual shooting right sure that's that's really the only defense that you have on other than that like jones himself said quote if questioning public events and free speech is banned because it might hurt somebody's feelings we are not in america anymore and i think this is like the same you know this is the tactic it's like you are not questioning you are outright lying and making statements as if they were fact right with a massive uh platform and ruining people's lives right after he was told he was doing that yeah yeah yeah i like to think of big like macro stuff like this in on the micro level like okay when people like that's just the way i think oh
Starting point is 00:33:07 yeah i like this go on how people get upset about like oh you're infringing on free speech but if this was a pta meeting and one parent got up and said hey for the bake sale, Bethany used craisins instead of raisins in the cookies. They'd be like, you can't say that. That's not true. You can't say that. And Noah would be like, oh, you're fringing on
Starting point is 00:33:37 my free speech. They're like, no, that's objective. Oh, look, here's the cookie. It's a raisin. This is a raisin. Oh, look, here's the cookie. It's a raisin. This is a raisin. Oh, but they're dyed craisins. How many times do I have to tell you that? They're dyed brown. They're synthetic.
Starting point is 00:33:55 They've been kicked out of that meeting! Right. And I mean, again, you even look like this is the same shit is happening over and and over again, like the way they're kind of framing it. This is the same thing Alex Jones goes on to say after this. They want to scare everybody away from freedom and scare everybody away from questioning Uvalde and whatever happened there. I'm sorry, what? It's a word. You're already, hold on.
Starting point is 00:34:20 You're starting to learn his lesson. Jump into the. Right. Jump over to the other one. We're just questioning. Right. And then he like, then right after you said that,
Starting point is 00:34:28 he's like talking about his vitamin supplements and goes like, I need hundreds of thousands of dollars in donations, please. He got about $185,000 already from like some weird Christian, right? Like fundraising platform. And he said, now they're coming after your free speech.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Now they're coming after your right to listen to what you want and to hear what you want. Mm hmm. Uh huh. But again, I think this is all just like part of their very, you know, commonly used tool, which is very clever to get your audience prepared to view and like in inevitable event as some kind of conspiracy against their side. Right. You know, like the message boards are full of shit, like, and tweets, you see it all. Watch, more people on the right are going to get sued for free speech
Starting point is 00:35:11 is like this weird phrase you hear. Getting sued for free speech. Hold on, no, you're getting sued for lying. And I think that's where it's clever. They've convinced people now that saying whatever you want, no matter how honest it is, they just go, well well i've conflated that with the constitutional right of free speech and rather than like saying these people are making libelous statements to try and manipulate
Starting point is 00:35:33 their viewers and that will most likely lead to legal issues uh but again someone's going to get money taken away and you know they're talking about free speech so you know it's whether if it's lying about others to stoke violence they they call that free speech. If you're menacing people with firearms in public, that's my second amendment, right? If you're bullying trans kids, it's protecting my kids. So they ascribe all these like very noble concepts to their bigotry, as a way to intellectually insulate their followers from having any moment of like introspection or self-analysis because if they can frame their hatred as like a righteous endeavor there's no
Starting point is 00:36:09 need to analyze that no that's freedom of speech i'm protecting my kids what else do i'm sorry that's an unassailable point and if you want to be really disingenuous you can just sit there and say well i'm already at the top of morality mountain yeah no need to no need to look at what i'm actually doing because i've already framed it as i'm protecting my family rather than i am attacking people the inevitable thing they're also preparing for preparing their listeners for is also other mass shooting i mean you see him doing it already with uvalde and just every mass shooting like it's funny that their defense is like he apologized apologized for this, and he said one bad thing and apologized for it, and everything's good now.
Starting point is 00:36:52 And even in his response to the ruling is like, and now we can't question Uvalde? Yeah. And so he's already made the connection in his list listeners mind between like so go harass the uvalde parents right and he's also on the record as saying that he doesn't believe any of the shit that he says that he's just like a wrestling like kayfabe you know bullshit personality that's just trying to sell fucking nutraceuticals. Yeah. Well, he's selling them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I have a problem. And I'm no professional lawyer type. So shout out in the comments if you are. Like and subscribe. In between comments of talking about my vocal fry and how the episode was unlistenable. That's a whole other thing. listenable that's a whole other thing but it's that feels like such a big big daddy lump of money that it feels more like symbolic than anything but like what are the odds of him actually fronting that cash like what's right will that ever happen probably i mean who knows Will that ever happen?
Starting point is 00:38:03 Probably not. I mean, who knows? Will he have stuff seized? Like, you know. Yeah, we were asking that when the ruling first came through. And it's hard to say because, you know, there are massive industries of people who are extremely well-educated and well-connected who are designed at finding ways to protect people's money for them, you know, so that they can get a piece of the money. That is like how capitalism works in America is just going and finding ways to help rich people protect their money from taxes or from legal rulings. or from legal rulings. So no, probably not.
Starting point is 00:38:47 But maybe the theory behind going so high is that you get at some middle ground there that still ruins him and makes it so that having a podcast and streaming platform where you just lie, like tell the most malicious lies possible about people going through inevitable tragedies caused by the lack of protections in america that like you that is no longer viewed as a profitable business is
Starting point is 00:39:13 what what i'm hoping the outcome of this is but yeah i mean they say it's again like some like economic forensics people are like they they say that they think he's probably worth between like anywhere of between one hundred and thirty and like two hundred seventy million dollars. Right. When you combine his personal wealth and like the info war shit. But again, like so a lot of people like I don't think people are going to get the full settlements. That's that's just not that's just what it was. That's what the judgment was. But this one person said, quote, it's very difficult to collect on judgments, especially against individuals like this who often hide their assets behind shell corporations. I've been trying to collect on a large amount, a large judgment against another odious wealthy man for several years.
Starting point is 00:39:55 It is expensive, time consuming and frustrating. In addition, Jones may declare bankruptcy in our system. In our system, sadly, many defendants like Jones cleverly avoid payment for years or forever. Right. So like his main company has already filed for bankruptcy. So he, I mean, like he could declare personal bankruptcy,
Starting point is 00:40:18 like Michael Scott, you just go out into the street and yell bankruptcy. Right. And, but I don't know. I don't think he'll be able to avoid like he's gonna have to pay yeah but it's just it's hard to know what that amount is gonna be i mean in one one way or another his life is kind of his financial future is fucked so i mean that
Starting point is 00:40:38 that gives me a small sense of joy knowing that his financial future is fucked and maybe like at whatever you know media planning meetings that people are like well this doesn't seem as financially feasible as financially solvent as it used to before they sued this motherfucker i mean because the way they'll probably look at it is like well if you don't have the full amount whatever you do got is like run your shit yeah yeah so it's not it's not like like a lot of the, I don't think he's, most people are like, he's not going to fucking just like skate off with all his cash. Like he's going to like, it's going to fucking hurt. Now it's just about what kind of maneuvering he does,
Starting point is 00:41:15 but it's not going to be like, ha ha, ducked that one. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about other stuff. a quick break. We'll come back and talk about other stuff. we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just
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Starting point is 00:44:23 Hi, everyone. It's me, Katie Couric. If you follow me on social media, you know I love to cook or at least try, especially alongside some of my favorite chefs and foodies like Benny Blanco, Jake Cohen, Lighty Hoyt, Alison Roman, and of course, Ina Garten and Martha Stewart. So I started a free newsletter called Good Taste that comes out every Thursday, and it's serving up recipes that will make your mouth water. Think a candied bacon Bloody Mary, tacos with cabbage slaw, curry cauliflower with almonds and mint, and cherry slab pie with vanilla ice cream to top it all off. I mean, yum. I'm getting hungry. But if you're not sold yet, we also have kitchen tips like a foolproof way to grill the perfect burger and must-have products like the best cast iron skillet to feel like a chef in your own kitchen. All you need to do is sign up at katiecouric.com slash goodtaste.
Starting point is 00:45:17 That's K-A-T-I-E-C-O-U-R-I-C dot com slash goodtaste. I promise your taste buds will be happy you did. And we're back. And Burger King is, you know, they're putting that people have done this before in the past. I feel like it used to be more common early 20th century. People would be like, there's a massive financial reward for anyone who can take a picture of a fairy or, you know, right. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:55 The rewards have gotten significantly diminished, though, unfortunately, since that time. So Burger King is doing a promotion this halloween now just the idea of burger king doing a halloween promotion might cause some people to have some negative memory so we're just going to say it right up front what the last time burger king did a big Halloween promotion. Trichinosis. They did a black burger that turned everyone's poop green. Which, wait, what? They released a burger that was black. Or I guess, no, no, no. I think the bun was black, which they claimed was like from the salty or the smoky infusion of A1 sauce.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Like there was A1 baked into the bun right and people like actually it's like this weird food coloring that is so foreign to the human body that like the intestines can't like you can't absorb it and then it comes out as i some of the speculation was that it was bile like that's what was turning the poop the poop probably just they had probably so much concentrated food dye to make the thing just like here black that it's like either a ton of dark green or a ton of blue or something yeah you ain't getting true black when like in japan when they did like the black they would use squid ink yeah which probably makes sense goes down a little easier yeah yeah yeah and but a marker
Starting point is 00:47:26 juice where america's like i don't know just a bunch of fucking green yeah to make that work dump it in there so this one seems like it's unlikely to give you green poops although we we don't know yet it's still very early on in the stages but this is called the home of the ghosts whopper it seems like the ghost whopper would have been the but they they pluralized it home very early on in the stages, but this is called the home of the ghosts. Whopper. It seems like that ghost Whopper would have been the, but they, they pluralized at home of the ghosts Whopper.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Oh, not, not possessive. Just a different thing. The ghost Whopper is a different thing. It's a different thing. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Whopper I've already eaten. Okay. Well, I think as a tie in to the ghost's whopper which did the one that you ate was it maybe the addition is now it's multiple ghosts in the whopper but i have eaten multiple whoppers ghost me in the comments for that one too making it pluralized is just very questionable go because then it's ghost swappers ghost swappers junior it feels like attorneys general it's a yeah it's in there yeah yeah but anyways chris as a tie-in with the ghost swapper they are uh adding a ghost detector to their app which is a real ghost detector in the sense that okay it has it has they're adding an
Starting point is 00:48:49 electromagnet electromagnetic field detector inside the bk app which is something your phone already has like there are apps for this i was oh really yeah i was with my at our family reunion this last year we have like a dinner at this hotel that everyone says is haunted. And my 12-year-old cousins were all running around with a ghost detector app. And apparently, it actually detects electromagnetic fields. Oh, damn. Which... Our phones.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I didn't know I had a fucking phone at a UMS meter. Did they tell you that, or did you look that up later? They told me that. And now as part of researching this story, our writer, JM, has told me that it's a real thing. Our phones contain magnetic field sensors. And if your magnetic field sensor detects a ghost in your field via the magnetic field detector, you will get a coupon for a free burger so that's that's the reward for proving there is life after death and that our consciousness does go on after we pass from our mortal okay but back to the cell phone thing right
Starting point is 00:50:00 our our cell phones already are like they emit radiation that was like the whole thing of like remember being like don't put it towards your head back in like the 90s and shit right so is that meter just gonna be like sure eating itself like is that fuck up its own shit because it's already admitting its own radio i don't i'm just like it feels easy to gain right my five gray so i mean i don't know how it interacts with the radiation coming off your phone but people do point out that the reason that the ghost hunting industry has glommed on to EMF detectors is because there's a ton of EMF fields out there. Like your mouse is emitting EMF detectors right now. If you're using a mouse, you know, phones do
Starting point is 00:50:55 it, two-way radios, any kind of electronic device. So you're using a cell phone that has an EMF detector, but the cell phone itself, like you said, is letting off EMF fields. So a camera battery pack is also something that's specifically called out. So for like ghost hunters, like EMF is the best thing because it's basically a confirmation bias machine. Yeah, it's a confirmation bias. Oh shit, look at this. The whole place is lighting up in this Best Buy. Right. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:51:23 The whole place is lighting up in this Best Buy. Right. My girlfriend watches the Ghost Adventures show a lot. And they have one in there that will, when it detects a ghost, it'll detect like a stick figure. They're like, oh, somebody's, some presence has appeared on your shoulder. And it's a stick figure. And then it will move so erratically if it was a ghost it was the ghost of
Starting point is 00:51:49 somebody being in a giant rock tumbler or something like a marionette blow up car lot thing with the air arms the wacky arms car lot thing the nope alien detector yeah I mean so one guy who sells
Starting point is 00:52:06 paranormal kits for hundreds of dollars admits the quote exact nature of the connection between emfs and ghosts is a mystery so you know what i love shout out to the ghost hunters man yeah i can't i love i love what y'all do I love how much money I'll spend on something like this. Truly, I've never seen someone be so committed, especially when it's not a mystery. How are you going to use scientific devices to try and prove something, yet be completely ignorant about the myriad of ways you can get electromagnetic radiation to show up on an EMF thing? It's a mystery. of ways you can get electromagnetic radiation to show up on an emf thing it's whatever it is a mystery we're passing like the one of the big kind of myths of our time is just this like technocratic myth that you can solve anything with technology and like something like an app in your
Starting point is 00:52:56 phone essentially so i i feel like in 20 years that's the thing we'll look back on and like parodies and satires of this time period will make fun of us for that but that this proves it's still alive and well that we're like oh you want proof of the afterlife yeah there's an there's an app for that jack right right at least we know why stalin's ghost returned yeah exactly did mike sernov a Whopper. Did Mike Cernovich have this app? He does. He does. And he just got a coupon for a Whopper as well.
Starting point is 00:53:31 You know he thought that was, like, such a great, like, poetic piece of poetry. Is he even referencing something about so-and-so's ghost has returned? Or it's like... I gotta give him the benefit of the doubt here i mean mike cernovich that guy fucking asshole like i don't know i don't understand whatever i get it i used to write you know raps back in the day that were very heavy-handed i mean i'm always saying shit like that lincoln's ghost has returned kublai khan ghost has returned. JonBenet's ghost has returned. JonBenet's ghost has returned, folks.
Starting point is 00:54:08 JonBenet and Tupac's ghost have returned together. And they're collabing on a live show. Yeah. Or plump-legged people. They're making a sick cameo in this Ghost Adventures episode.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Check out their IMDb. But anyways, this is all just to say congratulations Burger King on a Halloween deal that making a sick cameo in this ghost adventures episode check out their imdb but anyways it's a this is all just to say congratulations burger king on a halloween deal that won't alter our fecal matter that's i mean it will forward it's not expressing i guess yeah it will no i mean it will alter let's be real this in the way that any burger king will alter your fecal matter. Right. But, all right, let's move from ghosts to aliens. Yes. This is, so, yeah. So, cue the curb horns.
Starting point is 00:54:53 This story is, like, all I've been thinking about since I read it. But, apparently, so scientists during the Cold War decided to create a new mineral that would be a superconductor that they could use to, you know, make the computers on missiles better, presumably. And they created two fully man-made minerals, just like noodling in the lab, called Hedite and Brenzonate, I think, because they wanted to ensure I wouldn't know how to pronounce it ever. Yeah, dude. Chemical Twitter is going to come for you, bro. H-E-I-D-E-I-T-E. We don't need two I's. Heidi T.
Starting point is 00:55:31 You mean Heidi T? Heidi T, yes. Heidi T and Resniani. It's good for your voice when your throat's feeling itchy. Heidi T. It comes from the Swiss Alps. Heidegger and Biscotti. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Heidegger and Biscotti. twist house yeah heidegger and biscotti so anyways they invented this were very proud of themselves and then a few years later people were like oh but these meteorites that have been arriving for 100 years also have that mineral on it between so between 57 and 68 they them. And then they started finding them in meteorites, which, you know. Oh, like when analyzing meteorites? Meteorites, they found them. So obviously that's more of a, you know, you learn a new word and suddenly you see red cars everywhere i think is the way like one of the mental ways people illustrate that mental pattern of just you know once you
Starting point is 00:56:33 know about something you're going to actually recognize it but a new scientific paper is saying that actually the creation of these minerals is so specific and unlikely that their existence in meteors suggests that they actually came from extraterrestrial technology so how wait but how is i see i don't know the first thing about this kind of synthesis technology yeah so it was done by like layering like doing multiple layers of existing like headite is made by combining high dt is made by combining chromium iron sulfur and titanium and then head uh the other one i think is made by like layering multiple carefully layering chromium and sulfur so i it could be just that they're they lack imagination and are like no way this stuff could be made by anyone except us geniuses right it's like no it's it exists it's
Starting point is 00:57:33 just out in space well is it that we even think that it has to be extraterrestrial because we can't even wrap our heads around that it could have absolutely like naturally formed like that right so that's what they're that's what they're trying to like come to terms with they're like circling back and being like it's so unlikely that this would have come together given what we know about like how minerals are created like there's just no feasible explanation for how this came together and like i don't it's it doesn't seem like it's a very popular thesis necessarily but it does raise a bunch of interesting ideas around that i think are are missing from our understanding of what contact with extraterrestrial intelligence is going to be like namely the big one is that it's more likely that we are going to
Starting point is 00:58:27 encounter something like this that is evidence of extraterrestrial life that was around you know millions and millions of years ago because like when you look at how long we've been in existence it's like such a tiny blip yeah we're new kids on the block we're extremely new kids on the block and like we don't know how how common it is for intelligent life to survive you know for millennia and millennia and you know for millions of years so like it's it seems very possible that the evidence we get might be a piece of crumpled up metal from a spaceship that exploded like you know a hundred million but we might not even perceive that as a crumpled up piece of metal from a spaceship it'll be like this interesting substance that we found and then it's just where then we can begin to be like well where the fuck did it come from
Starting point is 00:59:25 right i bet the scientists a thousand years from now who sent those medals back in time to prove that time travel is real are so pissed right they're just like come on we like we mr policeman we gave you all the clues. They will use that quote because that movie will last the test of time. Oh, absolutely. They imprint that on a gold disc, shoot it into space, and then it'll come back. Gold disc? It's just a DVD of that movie they just sent out.
Starting point is 00:59:59 They're like, and that is our whole civilization's intelligence on one flat disc. I mean, it's interesting like every day it's like scientists are having more claims that are just sort of leading with the possibility of extraterrestrial life like there's one about like mars where they're like the martians may have made themselves extinct with like climate change right and it's also like wait what and then you're kind of like reading into like why it's the the shift of more like of this possibility is really interesting because the other day there was also like a mathematician who I couldn't even begin to explain, but like using like mathematical proofs, trying to conceptualize how it's more likely than not that we are not the only living intelligent beings in the universe based on like the concept of like a biogenesis or whatever so i'm just like oh i hate that trick math yeah that's like oh what's your birthday minus that by how old you are he's using a little fortune teller folded up in paper all right okay what's your what's your
Starting point is 01:01:00 birthday my birthday is may okay one two three. Okay. Now pick how many rooms do you want in your home? Seven. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Okay. Aliens. Aliens are real. There are 100 billion stars in our galaxy alone, and there are potentially trillions of galaxies in addition to ours. Multiply the two and you get a total population of stars somewhere in the vicinity of one, followed by like, you know, dozens of zeros. So if other galaxies are like our own, most of those stars have at least one planet the size of Earth. of earth and so so it just makes sense that it's kind of weird that our science is so skeptical and doesn't like put this on the radar as like one of the possibilities when we're looking at things flying into our solar system from outside of the solar system you know we've all seen the jodie foster masterpiece contact and they say like if there is no intelligent life out there, it's an awful waste of space.
Starting point is 01:02:10 We've all had that tattooed on our bodies. We're famous, famous theologian, like Time magazine cover theologian Matthewaughey is uh is the person who's saying that i love the invention of that as a as a possibility in america a theologian who is like so hot and cool that they become like the hey i kind of fuck with aliens too like joel austin right joel austin what a hunk oh man but we were we were also we were like knowing what we know about the egyptians and the types of simple machines they had at their disposal there's no possible way they could have moved these rocks to form the pyramids like then people figure out oh no they put it on logs and like rolled it yeah right like the easter island
Starting point is 01:03:05 things like yeah they kind of walked them they just rocked them back and forth and they were able to kind of just like get them to move across the island you ever had to move a refrigerator by yourself yeah me too yeah you just you just gotta rock it that that would be funny like them going back and in time and being like so how did you do they're like, oh, you just kind of rock it a little bit. I don't know how to put this. And he came over and helped me. Yeah. I was like, hey, dude, I'll get you breakfast from McDonald's, man, if you come
Starting point is 01:03:34 early, dude. But the idea that we will make first contact with pollution from alien farms or factories or just an uninhabited structure that just kind of drunk drives into our atmosphere
Starting point is 01:03:54 or is just like nobody's driving it anymore. And I think a lot of this interest is coming around Oumuamua, coming into our solar system. It's a Oumuamua? It's a Ouamua coming into our solar system it's like that giant i don't know people call it like a space cruiser size right but you know it's just a giant rock that is very oblong and not not the shape that something again similar to this like they're like that's not the shape something would naturally take like on its own it's too like they're like that's not the shape something would naturally take like on its own it's too like long and thin it's good that people describe it as like
Starting point is 01:04:31 cylindrical and cigar shaped and then it like sped into our atmosphere going faster than anything should be going and then like made a right turn and left our atmosphere going just as quickly so that that again feels like it could be it might have opened different that there's a harvard scientist who is like now really interested in this stuff and is constantly getting quoted about like yeah we need to that needs to be one of the primary explanations that we're willing to entertain so like that's not people aren't going to be like this that's definitively what this is necessarily but they are saying like that it feels unscientific to just rule that out at the outside i mean i like that a lot more saying that like alien stuff would just accidentally show up because the assumption that oh there must
Starting point is 01:05:28 be some aliens flying around thinking god we need to find a planet of people who kill each other and once a year shit green right right okay guys so there are aliens and they are obsessed with us with our green shit like that seems to be the the the automatic assumption once you mention the idea of aliens like oh my god you guys are so into oh my god stop you guys are so thirsty everybody who says they were marilyn monroe in a past life yeah exactly i was either cleopatra i was marilyn monroe one of the two i was joan of arc yeah those are the that's who everybody gets to be and they're pretty joan van arc i think that was from coming to america when that woman puts a lighter over her hand i was joan of arc in a past life and just like waves her hand over an open flame yeah yeah sure we all were yeah yeah all right
Starting point is 01:06:26 keep it moving anyways so i i don't know this is this is something we're keeping an eye on extraterrestrial life evidence of extraterrestrial life that might be boring when it shows up but the implications could be profound dude with blink 182 getting back together i know i bet that tour is probably going to be some kind of like we might see some shit what if tom delong is like yo you guys want to see something fucking wild it's not even a blink 182 concert he's like i'm sorry i had to use blink 182 getting back together to spread the fucking truth okay well yeah i imagine him like being like calling him today and like guys i'm sorry i know we planned this whole thing but i gotta go i gotta go man i'm sorry keep you up we got this metal that just came down
Starting point is 01:07:13 well steven such a pleasure having you as always where can people find you follow you all that good stuff we'll bear with any on internet. You'll figure it out. And that's it. So that's W-I-L-B-U-R W-I-T-H-N-E right? N-E. And the
Starting point is 01:07:38 E is a three. And the U is an E. But then it's a three. W-I-L-B-E-R is an E but then it's a three W-I-L-B-E-R with an E Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:07:53 No Miles Where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh man Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray You've been enjoying. Oh, man. Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Check out the latest episode of Miles and Jack got mad.
Starting point is 01:08:13 Boosty is our basketball podcast. The season is about to start. Had a great guest, Mark Schindler, on. And then also check me and Sophia Alexander out on 420 Day Fiance if you like trash TV. Some tweets that I like.'s see first one is oh matt ortega at matt ortega tweeted good lord nbc news and it's a screenshot of nbc news but first is a screenshot of like the new york times pitch bot twitter account and a headline they wrote a few days ago which was again this is a parody like an account that parodies like how both sizey and awful like New York Times can be.
Starting point is 01:08:46 It says, whether it's Herschel Walker trying to explain why he has so many secret children or John Fetterman trying to recover from a stroke, politicians on both sides face serious challenges. The next panel, NBC News. Fetterman, Walker, face political challenges outside of the
Starting point is 01:09:02 overall environment. Holy shit, you fucking losers. What are you doing? Then the next one is from face political challenges outside of the overall environment. Holy shit. Yeah. Fucking losers. What are you doing? Yeah. Uh, then the next one is from a pretty HC at pretty with two wise HC tweeted. Masturbating is having sex with demons, by the way,
Starting point is 01:09:16 uh, which I was like, okay, good to know. Let me know about that. And then Charlie James at nine, not non-binary cowboy tweeted. That's not bisexual lighting girl.
Starting point is 01:09:24 You are being pulled over. Yeah, blue and green together, you know. Blue and green? All right. Dwight Rhinosaurus tweeted, we talk a lot about the militarization of police and not enough about the militarization of sales bros, and it's just a TikTok of just the most unhinged. Not about the militarization of police and not enough about the militarization of sales bros.
Starting point is 01:09:48 And it's just a tick tock of just the most unhinged. I'll just link off to it in the footnotes. The most unhinged, like, you know, corporate pep rally thing. But it's got like skulls and American flags in the background. They're like, I have no ego. I am an elite sales warrior. Oh, hold on. you guys hear this you can't hear that what is that no i hear that it sounds like a fucking orc army from lord of the rings success trains failure complains. Oh, jeez. Is what they're shouting.
Starting point is 01:10:26 It's wild. And then I got a shout out to Jason Pargin, author of John Dies at the End. He tweeted, very frustrating, but we'll get through it. Let me know if you have this issue with your copy. And then he has like a box of his new books and he's like opening them. And each one of them has $200 of cash inside. He's like, oh, man. God damn it. Damn it. Welp. and each one of them has $200 of cash inside. He's like, ah, man.
Starting point is 01:10:47 God damn it. Damn it. Well, let me know if that was pretty good. This happened to you. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Myles, what song do we think people might enjoy? Oh, you might enjoy this track by the artist Fennec, who is a DJ, I believe, from Austin. The track is called Girl. And this, like, kind of, it's like house music but it's like a bunch of samples used to create it so it's not like your traditional thing it feels very like nostalgic and kind of out there but it's also kind of a fun thing to listen to as you go into your weekend so this is girl by ben neck f-e-n-n-e-c all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. Back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will talk to you all then. Bye.
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