The Daily Zeitgeist - SPEEDY Joe Biden? ACAB Includes Sequels & Prequels 06.26.24

Episode Date: June 26, 2024

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When I point up, it's for Jesus. Hey, I know. I know. Jack likes to antagonize me because I'm a follower of Christ myself. Yeah. Yeah. Miles has some stories about his boy, JC. Man, look.

That's what I'm saying, man. It's like, you know, just like Jesus got a lot of coupons, too, because he saves also. You know? Now, Greg, what you can't tell coupons too, because he saves also, you know. Now, Greg, what you can't tell, Miles is wearing a bucket hat. So you can't tell that he just turned it around backwards, but it is on backwards. So he's cool. Let me get cool. I thought you were going to turn it around and it was just going to have a giant cross on the front. Let me rap to you for a second.

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It's National Beauticians Day It's National Chocolate Pudding Day It's National Parchment Day That's for people who like to cook en papillote You know, cooking with parchment paper. National Coconut Day. National Barcode Day. So, wow.

Barcode? What a day. Barcode. Barcode. Yes. Shout out to barcodes. Shout out to barcodes. Shout out to coconut.

And chocolate pudding. Chocolate pudding. My name is Jack O'Brien. Hold on. Do you like chocolate pudding? Yeah I like I like chocolate pudding I like coconut

The best Of all the things That I just said Yeah I'm a coconut bitch Okay Alright You like chocolate pudding

But I'm a coconut bitch I don't know I'd match them up You know what I You know Have you ever bought Coconut syrup? Yes

Dude I put that on shit And I put it on things that it shouldn't go on. And then, yeah, it's great. Like a hamburger? No. Mostly sweets. Yeah, I don't go that far with it. That's about it. Good.

Yeah. I'll let you do your thing. Everything else, it goes on. It should probably go on. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Come, my grimace.

Come, come, my grimace win the baseball game before you finish that is courtesy of cleo universe rest in peace r.i.p to and i looked it up shifty shifty shell shock right passed away at age 49 yeah the front man of rap rock band crazy town yeah who just passed away at age 49 one of the sickest bass lines too in that song what was that song called again butterfly butterfly you're a butterfly not sugar sugar yeah yeah what a song the aesthetic of that video oh yeah so specific and i think it was like the theme song for like sierra mist or some shit or right i remember when that came out it was like oh fuck theme song in my life every time i

walked into a room i wanted that playing in people's minds and that's why i dressed like i did and got all those eyebrow piercings i'm thrilled to to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! It's Miles Gray, in honor of the Pringles. Queen herself, Blair Saki, I gotta hit you with, Oh, Pringles in the morning, Pringles in the evening, Pringles when you got a deadline, when you procrastinate on a project, eat cans of Pringles anytime!

And Blair famously said she'll eat two cans of Pringles when she's working on something just to pass the time. And I respect a two can Sam type, you know, dedication level like that from Blair. So shout out to you, Blair. And shout out to Peanut Buddy Brown on the discord for that. You remember the Pringles thing where they gave themselves a little duck bill, little Pringles duck bill? That's very hard to do. Very hard to do. Very hard to do, but that gesture by that actor probably just tossed off.

I'm sure that wasn't part of a focused group decision to do the duck bill, but I always... That's the commercial that took place on the beach, I believe. Yes. I identify with the guy who has the bag of Lays and goes, goes greasy not fun yeah he's like oh my fucking lays at the beach i do i can't believe how well i know that that fucking jingle papa oh mao mao papa pringles wow wow yeah i didn't remember it once you're fun

the fun dolls once you pop the fun don't stop greasy not fun uh-uh uh-uh uh-uh anyway so my parents were away at work most of the day yeah it's such like baby language greasy not fun uh-uh because the guy was such a dork he was like oh man i'm at the beach i got a shirt on i got fucking chip grease all over myself yeah embarrassing not. That's how I oiled up. Oh, God. I have such an uneven tan. Yeah. That's why it's so golden. Miles.

Yeah. Enough bullshit. We're thrilled to be joined once again by a very funny comedian and improviser. You may know from the hilarious podcast Mega, and we got a new one. A new hilarious podcast. It's called Get It To Dutch. Please welcome Greg Hutt. and we got a new one a new hilarious podcast it's called get it to dutch please welcome greg guys this was like a real it was a real joy to listen to it was almost like a clockwork orange reference uh audio reference levels to things that happened in the early 2000s that i was like

oh yeah and that pringles thing oh yeah it was it was you remember that right i do remember thank god yeah and i remember that music video too my god was that like just oh the watching pcp the crazy town one yeah yeah yeah i feel like there were little like screen flares happening all over the place screen flares deep eye contact with the camera from shifty left at what what are we calling him shifty i thought it said shitty uh this morning wait i was like what a tough name a shifty shell shock oh oh that's shitty i thought it said shitty shell shock this morning i was like you know it's a cool name until it's your obituary and then everyone's like and we are today morning shitty shell shock but that's not right it was shifty and r.i.p yeah yeah r.i.p oh man that

was a tough one because he was also like i remember he was always on like celebrity rehab and stuff and he was like his latter day career was always like the dude from crazy town's kind of a fucking mess and so yeah great. I'm sure not the best ending for him, but yes, a great song. Thank you for that. Also what HR people call a messed up situation. It's Crazy Town in here,

guys. Everybody just needs to take a beat. Greg, the last time you were on, which was pre-pandemic days, we were talking about Mega, which is an improvised comedic podcast about megachurches. Takes place in a megachurch. Yeah.

We're still jamming Mega. It's been great. Yes. If people want a little reprieve from constant evangelical Christianity seeping into your political and personal lives, come and make some hay with us on Mega. It's a very fun improvised podcast. Or if you just want a break from your mega church, you're spending all day every day at your mega church. It's so weird, dude. We get people that come to it. Actually,

somebody just messaged me yesterday and said they put on an episode in the car with their evangelical friend who was like, this is great. Yeah, as we were like trying to fake save someone on the podcast. Just a church fan. Yeah. Hey, where do these folks worship at? I'd love to go. I love what they're working with here.

I know. So, yeah, even if you want a fake worship experience, you can come join us over on Mega. And then tell us about Get It To Dutch. We got a new iHeart podcast. And honestly, you know how when you make something and you want to be like, yeah, it's pretty good, you know, like, and you kind of try to downplay it. And I'm trying to do this thing in my life in general, which is, look, you don't always have to be self-deprecating. And this is one of those things. This. Well, of just like, you know, when you make something, you're like, you know what?

God damn it. I'm actually really excited and proud about this. We have this new podcast and it's called Get It To Dutch. And it's basically me and my two best friends who I've done comedy with now for 20 years, ever since we came up in Chicago and second city. And it's called get it to Dutch because we play three struggling screenwriters who are trying to get a screenplay to a fictional producer named Dutch Huxley. And every week we come in and we read a piece of one of the screenplays that we think about sending to him. And so it's an improvised banter at the table. And then we get into in and we read a piece of one of the screenplays that we think about sending to him. And so it's an improvised banter at the table, and then we get into it and we actually read pieces of these fake screenplays. Of course, as the series goes, the guy's lives are sort of falling apart. It's everything that we've gone through as comedy writers in LA, we sort of packed

into this satire about trying to make it as a writer in Hollywood. So of course we're doing it from, I put quotes around this, we're recording from Mark's shitty studio apartment in North, North Hollywood, where we're all sitting on weight benches and looking at a Scarface poster. I knew you were going to say fucking North Hollywood.

Yeah. You know, we have Weird Al plays our entertainment lawyer on it. We got Tim Robinson. Tim Robinson, who's our longtime collaborator, plays basically the landlord of the building that Mark lives in. Holy shit, great. And got other great people, Rob Hubel. It's been a real blast, a real delight.

So it's only 12 episodes. You can binge the whole thing. I think people will really like it. Yeah. If you like comedy bang-bang like. I think people will really like it. Yeah. If you like comedy bang bang, like I do, you'll, you'll really like this.

Some great guest spots and just really, it's very funny. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. So, you know, I would,

I would, uh, I would like to say that I'm actually proud of something for the first time. Maybe, maybe in my life. All right. Oh, congratulations.

Still trying to get that, trying to get that. I'm trying to get that. Congratulations. Still trying to get that. Trying to get that. I'm trying to get that myself. Yeah, we're all chasing that. I got two kids that are still chasing that high. Yeah. My kid can't kick a soccer ball

a hundred yards yet, so I'm a little bit, you know, he's 17 months. But the cool thing about kids is they're always like, look, look what I could do. And you're like, it's okay. Like, you know,

kids aren't really that good at anything. But they are always down to be proud of something. So trying to channel that. Is it good to encourage kids? Does that lower the bar? I was raised in a home where it was like, call me up when you're in the league.

Oh, yeah. You couldn't get. You really had to prove yourself. Yeah. They're like a six foot hoop, my man. Okay. Wow. Wow.

Wow. You can dunk on a six foot hoop? hoop well i can jump over a six-foot hoop i'm an adult man yeah greg you were to me you were last on january 21st of 2020 so yeah okay bit of a time travel oh man yeah we were just saying that those january 21st of 2020 have i been on two times man but i do you guys have this with the sort of like pandemic, just like black hole where you're not sure what you did or who you were? Of course. All the time. Yeah.

Without a pandemic. Yes. Yeah. It's just kind of Wednesday for me. But yeah. Okay. January of 2020. Wow.

I think Kobe Bryant was still alive. That can't be true. So many people were still alive. Yeah, he died on the 26th because we were up there for Sketch Fest, I remember. Whoa. Oh, right. And then, or not up there,

but anyway, we were up in the bay, I remember, for Sketch Fest. Anyway, all that to say, it's been too long. It's been too long. But thanks for having me. It's been too long. Too long. Since I. But thanks for having me. It's been too long. Too long.

Since I've last talked to you. Great people. All right. Well, hopefully we don't curse any generational greats to an early demise. Although, I guess we already. You got to stop blaming yourself for that, man. You blame yourself for Kobe? He blames.

You got to stop. I don't blame myself. I don't not blame myself you know well it's been tough all right greg we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about it seems to be genuinely up in the air if trump's going to like just not show up to the debate on Thursday? I'll put money. If anyone's taking money, I might bet him not showing up. But I don't know. I don't know.

People, there's production companies are like, so wait, do we just do it anyways? And then he just might not show up? What's happening? Is there a Vegas odds for that? I wonder if I know. Yeah. Is there a market for that? We should check.

There should be. I'd I'd probably not. I'd be more comfortable betting on that than like sports. But yeah, I guess it's all. But also, Trump, I think, is much is one of the most predictable humans ever. So it's not exactly the science, I think. I think he shows personally i would love if he shows because based on what his debate prep is i have to see this in action i have to see what

what this guy's gonna do he hasn't talked to anybody who is like left of fox news in just like i think both in his private life and just generally since, I don't know, maybe 2020, maybe since the last episode we had. I don't think he lets it in. I wonder if that like the best strategy there too for Biden is, is really just to, and I wish they would do this more when Trump talks is just go, you know, he rambles on and says whatever. And then I hope Biden can have the wherewithal to just be like, I'm sorry. What? You know, or we had talked about this in 2016. Like, I wish somebody would just be like, hey, I'm sorry, but he smells so bad.

Like, there's a smell up here that I'm I just I'm not really. I don't know. That's it's funny, too. Like, that's the kind of shit Trump would do. And he's like, look at little marker the way he holds a water bottle. And I was like,'m not evil. It would destroy. I don't know. That's what, it's funny too. Like that's the kind of shit Trump would do. And he's like, look at little marker, the way he holds the water bottle. And it was like, oh shit. But if someone's like, bro, are you like, yo, are you okay? No, like for real.

If Trump, if Biden really, this is where I always thought Biden should hire some comedy writers to go in and just be like, hey, let's pick a couple moments and then let's get an acting teacher in here to help you translate the moment that Trump shit his pants and just be like, hey, let's pick a couple moments and then let's get an acting teacher in here to help you translate the moment that Trump shit his pants and just continue to play that through the entire thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, yeah, since 2020, I've kind of come around on Trump, guys.

Cool, man. We'll work that out. He's got some good ideas. I think my man shows up because he is brave. He doesn't run from anything no surrender as that t-shirt says the t-shirt of a picture of him surrendering oh yeah but yeah that's that's our motto here in this house we believe no surrender for donald trump so squid game but america is happening apparently at netflix or at least that's the rumor. Don't do it.

With David Fincher? Don't do it. What the fuck? Don't do it. David Fincher is like torn between two projects that sound like absolute shit. So I just want to talk about that because it's... Not great decision making. Well, yeah. And I think we need to hold Hollywood's hand right now because they are kind of reeling.

Like the Avengers kind of went away for them. They're at the point where they're like, what if we just run it back with the old Avengers that worked before? But before they get to that, they're having to make these decisions about what movies to make. And they keep making similar mistakes over and over. So I want to talk about all of that plenty more. But first, Greg, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? This was this was well, I'm I'm trying to move. So I went ahead and took out all of my searches for, you know, two bedroom charming guest house for cheap with pool because those clearly didn't turn up anything. But I'm so on one right now about just like positive thinking.

This is like my new thing. Okay. And not like full, like I wouldn't say I'm like full on like manifest guy, but I am like trying to get out of the habit of just like sort of spiraling about, you know, nonsense or just, you know, playing on rotisserie things that really aren't very beneficial. So I saw this great post. I think it was on Open Culture a few years ago, which is a great website that's just like fun, interesting things. And it was, and so I Googled it again the other day, because I'm like, oh, this is right, this is my jam right now. It was Octavia Butler, who was a famous sci-fi writer. Her journals and her notes were all given to Huntington Library and they published, and Open Culture, I remember remember had one of her journal pages

was just like her mantra to herself, like basically like her positive thinking like mantra. And I love it. So I was like, so the last thing I Googled was, it was something like Octavia Butler journal page positive or something. And it's really cool. Actually, you can read like she sort of like laid out exactly like what she was going to do with her life. Like, I'm going to be a bestselling author. I'm going to sell my books to these places. I'm going to be on all the bestseller New York Times list. And I was trying to remember the phrase that she used, which was, so be it, see to it.

And I just loved that. And so it's like that. So the last thing I Googled was, what are the Octavia Butler journal pages? Oh, that's great. Okay. I got an update. Get more specific than my search. How to positive thinking? What sounds better? Well, how, how to, how to positive? Is that positive? Am I positive also is a, is a search term that I've used and it comes up with different things. It's, yeah, man, the positive, it's hard sometimes, you know? Yeah. The thing, the skill that I've had to really develop is like when you're like ruminating and you start spiraling is the cycle of going like, fuck, I don't want to start.

Like, I hate that I'm thinking about this. Why am I thinking about this? It's stressing me out. And then you just keep, you just keep fucking folding that over like a fucking, just, just making it worse and worse. And then I heard like, I forget which, like, it's like sort of one of these like therapist spirituality sort of people that I've, I've, I've listened to before was like the thing that stuck with me most was saying you have to sort of break out of that first by forgiving yourself for letting it compound. Because if you don't address that first, you have to sort of break out of that first by forgiving yourself for letting it compound

because if you don't address that first you have to disrupt it first by trying to say like that's okay that i'm that i feel this way yeah and try and stay with that versus like fucking don't feel like this because this is how you're gonna feel like shit why you keep feeling like shit and you're like hey well it's okay that i feel like this let me me just, let me move from there. I vibe with it, dude. I'm like really trying to, yeah, just even like acknowledge that I'm like, oh yeah, that's okay. That's interesting that I've like, sort of like, it's that thing where you're like,

when you're on low grade stress or anxiety, you don't really realize a lot of times you're even thinking the things you're thinking. Just trying to like pay attention to what I'm thinking about and be like, you know, maybe I could like put that here for a little bit and focus on something else rather than...

Yeah, it's mindfulness, man. It's mindfulness. That's that mindfulness thing. Shout out Tara Brock. That's what I was thinking about. Yeah, Tara Brock. She's all about some Tara Brock. Yeah.

There's a Buddhist thing, the parable of the two arrows where like the first arrow is the physical pain, but then the second arrow is like the stress of feeling the first arrow. And then I feel bad about the pain about the first arrow. And yeah, that is a great description of how my anxiety works. It's like I wake up with anxiety and then I'm like,

fuck, why am I feeling anxiety? And you know, you have judgment compounding on judgment what jack's not saying is also uh you had a guy shooting arrows at you which is well that is the cause of my anxiety yeah yeah just a guy hunting of an urban an urban hunter stalking you through the streets of la right yeah she's like less lethal maybe what is something you think is underrated, Greg? Customer service, my guys. Okay.

Here's the thing. I've been there. I've worked at places where you're just like, I don't know, man. Yeah, you're like, dude, I don't give a fuck. Like, complain, I dare you. I'm dead already. Totally. And I was in a place the other day and the customer service was really great. And I was just like, this

is my new thing. I'm like, I will sing the praises of any business that is doing some good customer service. That's my thing right now. Well, I mean, it's funny because your original thought is tied to why customer service is so terrible because no one is actually paid a living wage

in most instances that would even allow you. Because most people have to carry all this existential fucking stress anyway yeah and on top of that you're gonna go somewhere where you don't know if the people are gonna tip you and they're all and they're stressed and they don't know how to treat people in service jobs and shit like that it's really yeah it's it's not it's not great but yeah and it reminds me of the thing we talk about on here. There's this great mystery about why young people's mental health is struggling. And people are like, it must be their phones, right? It's got to just be that they have the phones. And then they're like, oh, yeah. And they seem to have really high stress levels about the end of the world being caused by their parents generation like the world being left to them being an apocalyptic wasteland but like i i think i think it's just we need to get them off probably if we get rid of tick tock just touch grass while there's still grass because actually we're getting rid of that

pretty soon because it's not very profitable for us but But yeah, I think there's an overall understanding. People, I think, are generally smarter than generally given credit for. And they recognize, okay, I worked for a big, massive company that is bad, is not contributing anything. Yeah. And you hear about all these people

soft quitting their jobs during the pandemic and stuff and it's like yeah because it just like that grind is terrible especially if you like can't make it make ends meet at the end of the day right yeah i i definitely don't get mad at the people who are not providing good customer service i do get upset where it's just like i even just like the idea of like, I'm so hopeful that like people can start little small businesses and stuff that they actually like and enjoy and can make a living at because yeah, working at Warby Parker ain't it. Yeah. That feels like what Portland is like. I always see people like the most niche small businesses in Portland and I'm like, hold on, you like beer and hot sauce and you only do these two things at

your store. Okay. Yeah, man. And I'm doing pretty well at it. And also you have to have a beard to work here. Yeah. But here it's just impossible because like the rents are so high for any kind of commercial space. It's like, I don't know, does your dad or your mom, can they give you all the money to start this business? Yeah. And usually it is like if you dig one layer deep or it's like oh you have a cute little uh pop-up fashion brand yeah oh then i googled you and uh your dad uh produced um you know that is 24 oh your dad is tj maxx yeah yeah i'm tj maxx jr thomas james maxx thomas james maxx uh just a couple corrections here we think capitalism on this show is underrated and in this house we believe working at warby parker is it just in case they went on like sponsored box yeah yeah we we think it's it don't need glasses

because i had lasik nice dude damn dude i heard kovic can reverse LASIK. Okay. Well. I think that's a true thing, actually. It may be. I have heard people that got LASIK and then got COVID and it basically fucked up their LASIK. Oh, shit. No. I'm lucky. I heard you can just blow really hard and plug your nose and your eye just pops back to the old way it used to be. Your eyelid or your cornea reshapes.

Oh, my eyes are fucked again. What is something you think is overrated? I'm going Tesla right now, y'all. I just know. What happened? I finally like rode in a Tesla and really paid attention to the feeling of riding in a Tesla car. And I got to say, if you're going to pay that much money for a car, it's got to not feel like a weird golf cart that doesn't have any smooth ride. It sucks.

It's a it is not a smooth ride. I would much rather be in like a 1998 like Buick LeSabre if I if I want a smooth ride. But those cars suck to ride in. I'm saying they're overrated. I remember the first time I got in when I was so underwhelmed. Like it was weird. I had built up time I got in one, I was so underwhelmed. It was weird. I had built up Teslas in my mind like fucking crazy.

And I remember someone I knew's partner drove one and picked us up to go somewhere. And first, I fucking embarrassed myself because I didn't know how the fucking door handle worked. Yeah, you can't get it. And I was like, rubbing it. The guy's like, you got to push it. And then it comes out. I was like, all right. And then I was immediately like, man, got to push it. And then it comes out. I was like, all right. And then I was immediately like, man, fuck this door handle. And then I got in and then like everything kind of felt like, like not substantial.

Like when I pulled the door thing, I was like, is this like just PVC pipe? Like everything wrapped in synthetic leather. Everything feels very just, yeah, not substantial. Transitory something like they're just, you feel like, yes, it's fast. And if it goes too fast, the car might just kind of like fall apart around you. Like a Cybertruck where the paneling will just turn into an air fin and bend backwards on the windshield. I feel like we don't even need to talk about those. It's just like, you know, if you drive a Cybertruck.

That's my, honestly, that's like my favorite new like i was talking about this on the show the other day my new favorite like form of schadenfreude is watching the people with their cyber trucks be like i can't the fuck is wrong with my car my steering wheel looks like a little batmobile thing like my insurance company won't insure it i think it's actually fully worthwhile to like my new thing with cyber trucks is if i see one i actually turn and point and laugh yeah and see and see if i can ever get the person to like be like hey man where you're laughing at yeah well yeah it is pretty cool uh why are you convulsing i don't understand i don't know in that you know obviously the elon thing is is is hard to to swallow and i i did there was a time

when i was like yeah ev is so cool and now i'm just like There was a time when I was like, yeah, EV is so cool. And now I'm just like, give us a train. Somebody give us a train. Somebody give us a fast, cool train like they have in Europe or Japan or whatever so that I can go somewhere and not have to drive

and also not have my car drive me. I don't really want that either. I see your train and I raise you a train tunnel that you can drive in. See, Jack, this is what we don't want. In this house, we believe the boring company is the future. And it's not boring.

I'm just picturing your yard with all your in this house signs. It's so many signs. It's so many signs. And that is why that guy keeps shooting me with an arrow. He's kind of lost his mind. Yeah. Amazing. Well, let's take a quick break

and we'll come back and we'll talk about some news. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary

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And we're back. We're back we're back and all right so donald trump seems worried about the debate that he agreed to after like saying he wasn't gonna do a debate he yeah he said he was gonna do it what happened i mean the whole thing was these are these are rules you agreed to he's like they're gonna cut the mics off when you're not talking they're like yeah you agreed to that yeah inside the rules as as you agreed to them they can't i can't bring up i can only have a water and paper and pen up there i can't bring my big old books up there and other crap they're like yeah yeah you can't have any of that um but yeah it's like over the last couple weeks we've heard increased speculation uh from the right about how joel biden is going to be

higher than method man and red man on the blackout album and on thursday this is going to happen on thursday night when they're scheduled to debate for the first time since obviously 2020 the excuses though really began trickling in over the last week as like, you know, Trump surrogates and people going out there doing the news shows. And Trump himself began like lamenting again, the rules he agreed to or how mean Jake Tapper has been to him in the past. And Trump has good reason, I think, to not be excited about sharing the stage because, you know, not that poll numbers really matter. But every time he debates a Democrat, like in 2016 and 2020, his numbers dip when people were just like that juxtaposition is a little odd for some people. Like this person spoke in complete sentences and this guy was stalking a

woman around the stage. And while again, polling is the whole game. It's just like the last time 2020, that first debate with Biden and Trump, it just wasn't a good look because trump came off looking like a fucking freak next to joe biden who was merely just an old man like standing on stage like he did when there were like primary debates for the democratic primary like in 2020

biden was not like good no he's not like a good debater. No. Yeah. No. My question is, like, who comes to these debates going like, you know what? I've stayed pretty independent up to this point. And I'm just going to see what these two gentlemen have to say. What are these Trump guys all about? And I'm just going to base it on the issues. You know what? I've registered them. I've read their websites, and they seem like they have some differences.

I'm a Democrat, but I don't know, man. I didn't really see Trump do his thing like that before. I'm kind of into it now. I'm kind of I've kind of interested in now. And I think it is like disingenuous. Right. Like, I mean, do you know people that are like, I don't know, man, I just don't know if I can hold my nose and vote for Biden. And it's like I had this.

This is a conversation where I'm immediately like, OK, well, then I just don't I don't have a lot of patience for it. You know, it's like turning that thing into like a single issue vote where, you know, I'm like, whatever your issue with Biden is, I beg you to show me like a version that you find a better version of your beliefs in Trump. in trump yeah i mean it's just so hard because you're like especially with the biden stuff so many people are contending with the anger of how the two-party system just like forces you to be like obviously i don't want trump to be president totally but biden is completely unresponsive to anything that like matters and what the fuck is this but again by both parties just trade off being the bad guy so then the other one can raise funds and then you know they do the merry-go-round but it's clear trump is still fucking hooked on doing freestyle jazz talking up there just flowing on some stream of consciousness consciousness word association shit and on saturday in philadelphia i don't know if you saw that like epic rant he had about water

and the sinks and shit like that a lot of like he's he's definitely in his water phase between like the batteries and the boats and the sharks and like dishwashers which he also period yeah this is his this is his water era that's something that like young children go like age three you go through your water period where like water is the coolest thing in the world and you have like your little water tables and you kept talking, playing with water. Exactly. He's in his water period at the moment. And if you, this is a lot of people were talking about this, but just to give you a taste,

like this is how the guy is talking when he's just talking. So try and like imagine this on a debate stage. No water in your faucets. You ever tried buying a new home and you turn on, they have restrictors in there. You want to wash your hair or you want to wash your hands. You turn on the water and it goes drip, drip. The soap, you can't get it off your hand. So you keep it running for about 10 times longer. The worst is your hair. I have this beautiful, luxuriant hair and I put stuff on. hair.

I put stuff on. I put it in. I like lots of lather because I like it to come out extremely dry because it seems to be slightly thicker that way. What? I laugh. This is...

A lot of people are just like, he's rambling. He's talking... He's trying to talk about water restrictors and shower heads. This is a thing he's trying to talk about like water restrictors in shower heads. Like this is a thing he's talked about before. But again, he starts off trying to make some point about like, what about our water? And turns into, I like my hair real dry. Yeah.

He's just doing. Yeah, he's just. All right, dude. Just freestyle, man. He's the king of riffs. He's the king of riffs. And the thing about how our toilets can't choke down his giant shits. It can't be far behind.

It's just a prediction. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're talking toilets soon. We got to be talking toilets. Like, again, we're in the water phase. So something aquatic will turn up. But prior to that performance of ranting, he had an interview with some right-wing blogger and said that they're like, oh, you got this. The guy was asking, like, you got this debate coming up.

It's pretty intense. And he's like, yeah, I'm getting pretty. Just listen. This is what Trump was saying, like how he's fucking preparing for the debate. Being interviewed by a guy completely bald with a beard. Just in case that wasn't. That's probably clear. I probably don't need to.

Yeah, what a right wing blogger dude looks like. Yeah. Joe Biden at Camp David, as you and I stand here, your debate is Thursday with him. No audience. CNN controls the mics. Dana Vash, Jake Tapper. How do you feel about that matchup? Well, it's probably a one-on-three, and I've been doing this for a long time, though. We'll handle that, and people say, how are you preparing? I'm preparing by taking questions from you and others if you think about it.

But I'm preparing by dealing with you. You're tougher than all of them, right? Well, it is a real pleasure to be here, sir. I know you've got a lot of fans waiting. So I welcome you to town, sir, and thank you so much for your time. You've been a great friend. Thank you very much, Chris. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. President. That guy has, like, tears

in his eyes. Oh, yeah. I always love a Trump name gas. Yeah. He actually got his name right. Oh, he did? Nice. Thank you, Chris. You're my best friend in this world.

Now, this is where I think most people become very skeptical. Because if you go off the answer of what he said his debate prep was, it's like talking to people like you. I'm taking questions. And so, in a a way that's preparing, isn't it? And that sounds like you're not preparing at all because you're not going to go on the debate stage. And if you are going on the debate stage and your version of preparing is just like completely whiffing on softballs from sycophants, and that's your preparation for the debate of your life. I'm, again, this will be, it'll just be straight up chaos because he's obviously going to be getting

a ton of questions about all his bullshit, like felonies to January 6th, asking about E. Jean Carroll, where he may fucking owe her like millions of dollars again by opening his mouth to RICO charges, fucking classified documents and talking to a guy who would never be like, I mean, like, you know, like, did you really, why did you have those classified documents and talking to a guy who would never be like i mean like you know

like did you really why did you have those classified documents that's not that's not gonna he's not preparing in any way this is why i think it's going that's why i think now we see that there's this like reason that's emerging from the right which is coming from a lot of people including trump which is which is Joe Biden is on fucking crank. And there's no way he can debate a guy who's on fucking speed, even though Trump may have been doing speed. I hope Joe Biden is on speed. I mean, this is my prayer is that Joe Biden does some speed before this debate. Because, I mean, like, as long as we get Joe Biden, like,

talking fast and walking quick, I think we win this thing. Yeah, he's like, hey, hand me that computer monitor, Jack, and a screwdriver. Yeah. To see what's going on. Throw some porno on. I'm kind of fucking amped, man. We put Joe Biden on some meth and he will win the debate and he'll steal a bunch of copper piping out of the debate stage. He'll take all the wiring out of the stage.

I took the bike apart and I took the spokes out of the wheels, but I used a hanger to put the spokes back. It goes faster, man. Look, Jack, anybody can do this. Yeah, it is weird, too, how Trump always stages it. I mean, even that clip was like a wrestling. It did feel like, well, it's going to be three on one this weekend. They were standing in front of a giant American flag, like doing the standing interview. Yeah, in camera.

I'm surprised Trump didn't take the mic and go direct to camera but yeah the ronnie jackson aka fucking dr feelgood the old white house doctor who has had everybody pilled up he in both administrations by the way also the obama administration yeah he he submitted a letter as a congressman said quote i demand this is to joe b. I demand that you submit to a clinically validated drug test in order to reassure the American people that you are mentally fit to serve as president and not relying on performance enhancing drugs to help you with your debate performance. Command? Is he the queen of England? Yeah. No.

Is he the queen of England? Yeah. No. And again, like you're saying, Zach, like this is a guy whose time in the White House was described as, quote, a wash in speed. Yes. Yeah. Like everything. They said apparently this, like, was staffers popping pills and washing them down with alcohol

in large part to Jackson's leadership as chief medical advisor. Common pill requests included modafinil, Adderall, fentanyl, morphine, and ketamine, according to a Pentagon report released in January. But other unlisted drugs such as Xanax were equally easy to come by from the White House Medical Unit, according to sources. It really takes a step up at fentanyl, morphine. It's like, yeah, wait, what? For what? The other ones are like, yeah, that's what I expect the White House to be running on, like Adderall, modafinil. Stay alert, wake up, go to sleep.

Morphine? But like fent? Qu way ludes can you even get those anymore right yeah it's interesting i mean we always talk about how his instinct is always to accuse the other people of doing the thing he's doing and he seems so high when he's up on the stage like just the way he's just rambling from one thing to the other and just talking about how luxuriant his hair is like it feels it feels like he's on like ecstasy or something yeah and it just feels like a guy who knows like i gotta i guess i gotta talk for an hour straight so what i'm just gonna talk about whatever the fuck i want like you know he doesn't have to but he has to oh yeah exactly the only thing that fills the sucking void. A good campaign ad for Joe Biden should just be taking Trump transcripts and having someone read back transcripts of Trump to potential voters and being like, so just a quick thing.

quick thing when you hear trump say um you know uh because if there's a star in the crowd you know their cameras on my head the back of the whole time cameras they're the best think about the seats this is a beautiful crowd and how we're gonna get the water and then just be like so what do you think about that when you mean and just and just get the reaction yeah that should be the whole thing i think it's great i think it's uh i think it's awesome man uh-huh and what was he saying i don't know man i fucking love cameras man they're like magic just don't get them wet or uh near a magnet you know yeah exactly you will get electrified shark will bite that camera i do think though like this is this happens every debate where especially the republicans this seems to be like a piece of accepted wisdom

among republicans so you really need to aggressively attack expectations and that that does tend to work like that's why i'm just like is the mainstream media just like falling for the same bullshit every like that they fall for every time where like trump's like that biden's one of the great debaters of our time and he uh he killed like at the time i guess he said like remember when biden debated paul ryan and everyone's like biden's gonna get fucking killed and then biden like did fine held his own against paul ryan which in retrospect not that impressive paul ryan's a fucking dipshit but that like he did better than expectations so now trump's like this guy's one of the great

debaters of all time and he's gonna be so he's gonna be flying on peds up there and then he's gonna show up and like have the expectations set where he wants them so i'm a little i'm a little like i don't know he'll probably show up like it would be such a bad look for him not to show up like i don't know but he's already giving himself an out you know like because this is another thing he's like what he's gonna be on drugs i couldn't debate somebody and then he could just be like i'm not talking to that speed freak yeah he won't he won't take a drug test then i'm not gonna play like you know it would be a real bad look it was like i hope he doesn't show up because that seems like a terrible look. Even in this version,

even if he shows up and completely shits the bed, figuratively or literally, no one's going to be like, whatever. It's going to be like, whatever. It's hard to know because he's probably going to be like, I'm not losing anybody.

What do I have to lose if I don't even go up there? But again, I know he wants to start windmilling about the fucking like, like immigrants are killing people angle. And that's going to be a moment for him to sort of, you know, try and press Biden on something like that. But I don't know,

at the end of the day, based on like how, I don't know, just, he just seems very like, he's just not into it, but look, we, we don't fucking know, at the end of the day, based on like how I don't know, he just seems very like he's just not into it. But look, we don't fucking know. But I also feel like maybe the debate polls are it might be like a thing with like the Pepsi taste test where, you know, Pepsi would win taste tests when it was like a little sip of pepsi versus a little sip of coke but like you can't drink a whole glass of pepsi without your teeth falling out feeling like

they're vibrating like i just feel like you're testing for different things and like the he always successfully like makes it horribly ugly in any debate he's in like i never leave the debate being like well he just got his ass kicked you know it's always so i i just feel like some of this is like people like wishful thinking that he's not going to show up that he's going to show up and just like suck i don't like i feel like it could go the other direction pretty easily. Not that that, like, this is just also me. Like, this is the same comportment I take into my sports fandom, where I'm like, we suck, we're going to lose by 40 points. But it does feel like, I don't know, it could go badly for Biden,

just given what we've seen of him speaking extemporaneously over the past 40 years. Make no mistake. I don't know who a favorite is going into this because just as easily, Trump can just suck all the fucking air out of the room and just keep harping on these same things. And then Biden's probably like, I need a nap.

Who knows what the fuck's going to happen? What if Biden asks for an actual nap? Oh, gosh. Okay. He's like, time out, man. Time out. Can we get like, I need a nap and a caramel. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, maybe Biden, maybe Biden, maybe the best plan for Biden is, uh, yeah. Let, let Trump talk more and, and, and also get on some performance enhancing drugs that make him like super ripped i mean like can we get him on hgh at this point or something so that yeah how quickly best self how quickly can he look like a light heavyweight mma fighter physically yeah and i'm sure i'm sure joe rogan's got some tips so like let's let's, let's get, let's get him just shredded for this one. Yeah. Get his organs to grow. And that would actually be the one thing that Trump would respond to.

Because as we know, he's always fucking terrified. Oh my God. Guy came out there with arms like Christmas hams. He's wearing a smaller suit jacket, isn't he? His biceps, they're bulging out of the sleeves.

No, no, no, no, no, no, not this. He looks like right out of central casting.

Trump loves central casting. You get a super strong president, Trump's going to like it. And these guys, they have big muscles. Maybe not so much down here and here, but bingo, up here, up here. Yeah, huge brains. All right, let's take a quick break.

We'll come back. We'll talk a little pop culture. We'll be right back. Take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk a little pop culture. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.

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Oh, no. A show that is, first of all, very much still going on. They only had one season and ended on a cliffhanger. And they were reportedly trying to recruit David Fincher to make it. The Finch Man is heavily involved in Netflix as their chosen creative. Directed the pilot for House of Cards and has done a bunch of good work for them.

However, Fincher has also been working on a Chinatown prequel series with the film's original screenwriter, Robert Towne. And Robert Towne just revealed that all the episodes are written and ready to go. And the question is now, like, is Fincher putting that project on the back burner, that project which we're assuming is called Chinatown Babies? Is he back-burnering that to focus on Squid Game?

And I just wanted to stop here for a moment to just ask the question. Have either of these ideas ever worked? An American remake of an already great, huge hit foreign film, like let the right one in do like, that was a great movie. And they were like, well,

we better remake that as an American one. And it was like, everyone was like, no, no, no. We already saw the good one. We don't, we don't need to see that get the fuck out of here old boy again like everybody had already seen it so like why why remake it i think the ring the ring might be the

closest thing but not everybody yeah yeah i i agree like there have been that was successful there have been american remakes of things, but like not in the era when like everybody had already seen the first one. Right, right, right. You know? When the first thing's a cult hit. And this is the one, this is the property, the project that like has been seen by more, way more people than like old boy, you know?

Yeah. Like this has been seen by so many people. Squid Game was like a massive hit. It like made them almost a billion dollars, Netflix, just that show alone. Wow. So it doesn't make any sense that they would do an American version of Squid Game. ever been the case that a prestige American director has signed on to a reality show remake and

been successful? I just don't know. Did they just send an email to the wrong David Fincher and he's like, yeah, I'd love to do it. And they're like, he's in. What? Really? So this isn't the, so they have made the reality show remake and they're bringing that back for another season. And that one does not

involve david fincher and this is was has anyone ever hired a giant director like what i just don't understand why david fincher i guess is my question yeah it's like it just needs more film it needs more it needs to feel like cinema more yeah i i guess that's their feeling but like that's what was cool about the original squid game was that it felt very cinematic like especially the first like half of the season i thought it was great like so what it i i don't know that you can really improve that much on squid game by like remaking squid game no it's purely for people who don't like reading i think that's it but also too like i i don't know if people would be as receptive to like the critiques of like capitalism and like debt and exploitation if it was presented in this american way like yeah we love capitalism too much and no

but or it'd be like oh they're being preachy you know what i mean but but from from it coming from south korea like americans i feel audiences like whoa dude this is fucking crazy and different this suddenly world that like mirrors mine their end of life health care can bankrupt them over there damn dude that sucks wow just like not paying any attention to what's happening in america oh man that would suck if like yeah i can see why they would squid this game dude yeah i remember reading something about how like monopoly you know like of course americans love to play monopoly because they're like i just bank it like a monopoly was created

by like two french socialists to warn about the dangers of capitalism yes yeah and it's just like like yeah we're of course we're gonna take. We're going to like, who gets to win the squid game and become the new hyper-capitalist at the end or something? Yes, it was like a warning tale game. And Parker Brothers or whatever the fuck company took it and was like, but you know what's fun is actually forming a monopoly and taking over and making people pay you. You got to build houses man what are you doing no no no just buy up the property and collect the tax yeah right but i also want to just talk about what's behind door number two like the project that he was supposedly already working on a prequel a prequel to chinatown like i really feel like congress needs to pass legislation like we we just talked

about how furiosa we i haven't seen furiosa but people like some people liked it some people didn't it didn't do as well i think because it was a fucking prequel and like people just aren't as interested in prequels like this keeps happening like the star wars films people were like yeah no it was good and like it made money but it didn't make as much money as people were hoping it would because it was a fucking prequel we know what's gonna happen fantastic beasts you notice how the harry potter franchise just like died a very public death yes jk rowling's politics are super problematic but like nobody was going to see those movies because they made a fucking prequel to the franchise uh the hobbit like did fine it didn't do as well as it could have yeah because it was prequel did not eclipse the original the king's man the hunger games just had this happen

to them where they tried to do a prequel it's just like it always seems to be a slightly diminished version of the thing that people liked in the first place and you always have this sense like the critics are like i mean it should be good like all the ingredients are there and just every fucking time it like under delivers on both like box office and like execution because it's just i don't, it just dramatically doesn't work for all the obvious reasons that people have been pointing out since Star Wars failed. unfathomable like depths of evil and darkness behind the city of los angeles like this supposedly sunny city you see this like horrifying dark underbelly and you glimpse it and then they're like forget it jack it's chinatown and like that's the idea is like you just got a glimpse and then it's over and you're just like nothing more to see here and the pre-golders are going to be like forget it Jack

it's all going to be Chinatown one day it's like and don't forget to actually examine the origins of it you know it's just like the whole thing it's just so counter to what is great

yeah it's just the it's like really offensive way of developing shit which is this kind of like dude chinatown people know about it but what if we completely fuck it up but we just use the name to try and get some eyeballs on it and just reiterate on all this shit and it's just like it's like it's like the similar way how like there's some musicians who have like this one thing they do and they don't really evolve much some some artists are able to like have careers off but other people like man all their songs are just like the same fucking song yeah and shit just dies out because it's not interesting like people want something different and new and yeah like we live in a town

where people are fucking dying to show like new stories tell new stories in new different ways that are so fucking interesting and not coming from this like weird monolithic way of like looking at the industry and this is being ignored yeah people will be cool with that well it's a prequel

like so it's like before Roman Polanski was even accused of all these things so like in a way I'm not even talking about a fucking like make your sequels. Like at least that is a new story that like can go in a weird direction. Like the characters can die. Like that's a thing. Like there's still some question. There's still some mystery.

Right. And yeah, no, it's tension. And you're like, this guy can't die because he's in the next seven films maybe if they do like the fargo type treatment with it which is like give some creator like absolute unilateral like decision making of like taking the like seed of you know like i like totally i like that but i guess i don't even think it's also like the tv show is being like any kind like it it has like not really aesthetic connection and that's about it you know it's not starting like i think a lot of the reasons that they do a prequel is because they're like well how do we get this same character but younger and

hotter right you know the character is what people like let's get him young and hot we got shalame playing yeah jake yeah could you imagine or they're like well i mean we did it with the irishman what if we just got jack in here and just did some scenes yeah he's moving a little slow man well i did i did read something recently i thought was interesting about this whole thing was about why why is it because i guess they did a poll of like no one wants no no people want new movies there's like a huge like sentiment among moviegoers. We don't want franchise stuff anymore. We just want some new stuff. bring to the table and say, guys, you know what we should do? Reboot the Hanna-Barbera library. And then the executive feels like essentially they created that. So you have all these executives feeling like, yeah, I brought up Hanna-Barbera. I brought up Scooby-Doo at the table

and everybody knows that and likes it. And so now I get to act like I created Scooby-Doo. Yeah, dude. What about Chinatown, but instead of Jake, it's Muttley from Hanna-Barbera now that's actually I would watch that yeah somehow just that just be a little more absurd yeah so I don't know it's seems like a like I also really like David Fincher the filmmaker in most cases and like would love to see him continue to do cool things and it sounds like our two options are just hollywood bullshit that yeah feels feels like the sort of shit that is just like dreamed up in a like it exists because it makes sense in a boardroom setting and nowhere else

what about chinatown but chinatown like do like, the Squid Game thing spin-off reality show of Chinatown, where contestants compete to develop the waterworks of L.A. in the gritty backdrop of a city with no morals. Yeah. And then we get Fincher involved. That would be good. Now we're talking. That could work. Or just ask David Fincher what the fuck he wants to make you know what i mean like or is he or is he the fucking guy's like dude i would love to do

chinatown a prequel like a tv show version you're like oh my god dude what yeah you don't got like another seven that you can like he wants to make oh right they already asked him what he wanted to make and he made a black and white movie called Manc that his dad wrote. So then maybe again, like we've seen fucking just there, there's again, there's an entire generation of filmmakers, writers, people who have all kinds of wacky ideas that end up in really cool things. Right. And talk to them. Yeah.

That end up on TikTok. And that's why. But this is honestly, you this is like to say this it's this mentality that's driving like the embracing of ai because you have a bunch of scared people in c-suites who are supposed to be decision makers and take risks but they would rather retreat to the comfort of something predictable or whatever and because their sort of perspective on what is creative or original or acceptable is completely different to like oh yeah man this ai fucking thing could be cool right and oh yeah you know be cool yeah let's reboot this thing that everybody has seen 700 fucking times it's just not it yeah yeah well

yeah yeah well chinaville coming to you there you go you know i i know of some uh screenplays that people should be checking out over on the show called get it to dutch there it is yeah greg hess thank you so much for joining us where can people find you follow you hear you all that good stuff it's always a pleasure and uh you can find me on the socials at hey greg hess and um yeah go find get it to dutch on any anything you listen to and uh and mega as well but would love for people to uh listen to some put some screenplays in your ears it's like going to the movies with your eyes closed there you go wow and these are and these aren't just you're not doing like like a prequel to et or some shit right the first movie out of the gate is our attempt to write a lord of the Rings-like movie and immediately goes off the rails.

So if there's an erotic thriller in there, definitely. There's a nod to Garden State as I try to write my generational, my movie of my generation, which is The Elder Millennial. So I think, yeah, I think folks will enjoy it. So check it out. And even in that version, we're all listening to the Garden State soundtrack. Dude, that's a big fight that we have because I want it to be all Arcade Fire. And the guys are like, and I'm like, guys, I'm two years younger than you. Arcade Fire was my Garden State soundtrack.

You were into the shins. I was more into Arcade Fire by that time. Amazing. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying oh boy the work of media well i'll say one highbrow thing i loved ripley speaking of cool black and white stuff happening on netflix man what a fantastically shot movie or a series and uh written a piece of work you know what? I've just been watching those new Jiminy Glick clips online and got to say, Martin Short, still got it. Still one of the funniest people alive. And I will watch Jiminy Glick interview celebrities and make them laugh all day long.

Still think it's 100% success rate over here. Still got it. In this house, we stand Glick. We stand Glick. And that's something That is agreed to On my front yard signs And across the political spectrum

In this house That's right We stand Glick Miles Where can people find you As they're working media You've been enjoying

Oh man You can find me Wherever they have The at symbol Twitter, Instagram And the like At miles of gray You can find Jack and I

On the basketball podcast Miles and Jack Got mad can find Jack and I on the Basketball Podcast. Miles and Jack got mad boosties. Miles and Jack got mad boosties. I know I say that very fast. That's the name of it. And I'm also talking about 90 Day Fiance on 420 Day Fiance. Some things I like. Oh, I did.

Hold on. It's this video. Someone made an animated clip making fun of people who buy Cybertrucks. And it's a pretty good cartoon. Let me just play a little bit of it. I saw it. It's on Twitter at Dan Harumi. I think he's the person who originally uploaded this.

And let me just have this play. Whoa, you got a Cybertruck? Pretty sweet, right? How could you afford this? I had to take out a pretty big loan, but pretty soon the dollar is going to collapse anyway. So this thing will be practically free. But if the dollar collapses, how are you going to pay back the loan? You got to think about it as an investment.

Pretty soon, this is going to have full self-drive, so I'll be able to rent it out as a robo-taxi. I'll rent out my car while I sleep. It's passive income. And anyway, pretty soon jobs will be automated with AI, so most people will be unemployed. But if nobody has money, who's going to pay for your robo-taxi? That doesn't matter, because if society collapses, you're going to need a big strong truck like this to protect yourself from the riots. It can withstand bullets, or at least part of it can. Can I try it out? No, the battery's dead.

I didn't actually have enough to buy the tesla wall connector thing i kind of assumed it would just come with a truck so you didn't get the charger i'm going to i just need the uh price of bitcoin to go up i just love that logic we'll pretty soon be a robo-taxi. I feel like that conversation has literally happened. That's happening right outside all of our houses here right now. Yeah, yeah. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A tweet I've been enjoying from Rachel Tormino tweeted,

Wow, said the two-year-old neighbor boy petting one of our cats for the first time. There are bones in here. Big surprise. You know? You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website.

DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We'll link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. what song do we think people might enjoy uh oddly enough i was just thinking about the band zero seven who's also on the garden state soundtrack uh but this is a track called mere surmise and the artist is called osvaldo a o s v a l d o and it feels like a zero seven like backing track there's no lyrics or anything, no vocals on it.

But it just has that easy, groover aspect to it. And the drumming is a little bit off, but in a funky way. So I think you'll like this. It's called Mere Surmise by Osvaldo. All right. Well, we will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

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