The Daily Zeitgeist - Spiking The Peace Football, Most Visited Websites In The World 5.10.18

Episode Date: May 10, 2018

In episode 145, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Ify Nwadiwe to discuss Menghazi with Chris Brown, Stormy Daniels Penthouse interview, North Korea releasing hostages, Michael Cohen's biggest scam..., top websites around the world, how Facebook fans the flames of hate in third world countries, & more! Plus super producer Anna joins to discuss the current situation with Iran and Israel. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.
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Starting point is 00:01:24 Squeaky. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast Rip Current. Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart Heart True Crime Plus only on Apple Podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit,
Starting point is 00:01:54 where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? It's right here in black and white in print. It's bigger than a flag or mascot.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 30, Episode 4 of Der Daily Zeitgeist. For May 10th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. O-O-O'Brien. O-O-O. O-O-O'Brien. The Zeitstaff. Oh! And I am joined, as always,
Starting point is 00:02:37 by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Okay. We do the show On a Monday All the way through Friday This sweet Pazza daily That's what O'Brien say Looking like Zeitgang, Zeitgang, Zeitgang
Starting point is 00:02:52 Zeitgang, Zeitgang, Zeitgang Yeah Uh-oh That AKA Sorry for that execution I'm just doing everything Live and uncut And I'm doing
Starting point is 00:03:02 I'm my own DJ My own hype man My own sound person My own friend of house But thank you to Alicia Perez I'm my own DJ, my own hype man, my own sound person, my own front of house. But thank you to Alicia Perez. I mean, wow. Really, you hit me with that cardi, that money bag. And hopefully we will be getting a money bag soon.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Also, shout out to Greg who came through to the Zeit Cave. A fan of the show. Had to lace him with some merch. Yeah. And shout out to the Australian listener who asked me to do some Australian song I'd never heard, but it had a bunch of O's in it, and that's why I thought of that one that I did. What was the song that you'd never heard of? It was like some, I'll do it on a future one.
Starting point is 00:03:34 I just have to like listen to it. Rehearse it a bit. Yeah, rehearse it. But we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the greats. He is a hilarious performer, part of the improv troupe White Women, and just one of the funniest dudes out there, Mr. Ify Wadiwe. Oh, hey, what's up?
Starting point is 00:03:51 What's up, man? Ify, ify, ify, can't you see? Sometimes your words just hypnotize me. So I just took your flashy ways. This is why I'm broke and you're so played. Oh, so you're broke still, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. At least you're broke still, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. At least you're honest.
Starting point is 00:04:07 Yeah, that came from... It's not like we're pulling up. Yeah, Andre Garvey. Andre Garvey. Yeah, he came through. He came through on the Twitch stream, was like, yo, I got that heat. And I was like, all right, DM it to me because I'm not going to be able to pull this Twitch stream back up. If you also host a podcast isn't that right yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:04:26 nerdificent oh yeah i've heard that that shit is good yeah yeah we talking nerdy yeah yeah uh what is this week's episode about funny enough this week's episode was about twitch had my buddy zach eubank on who we've been doing twitch stuff together for years. Lots of good stuff. Talking about the ins and outs of Twitch and that streamer life. Okay. Stream life. Stream life. With a three instead of an E. Ooh, Ray Streamer.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Yeah. Ray Streamer. Ray Streamer. If you would, is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Well, you know, I've been looking up oils. If you've been following me on any social media because i posted it across three all three the the trifecta twitter instagram and my facebook my got got my hair twisted up finally yeah i'm going to dread city we're going there next stop dread city yeah next stop dread city
Starting point is 00:05:16 so i gotta twist it up now i have to switch over my hair care products okay especially because i've been living in koreatown and i haven't found like a beauty supply which some of you may not know but if you depend on target or walgreens for your hair care products as a black person it's it's rough yeah you know they they i mean they have the black section they'll have like you know or unless it's in that part of the city yeah sometimes oh yeah they'll they'll have a deck there but like you know i thought koreatown you know i grew up in la and koreatown has always been pretty much predominantly POC. But I think because it's also predominantly Korean, they don't have that as many.
Starting point is 00:05:52 But I finally found a lady down the street. She got you. I needed a new brush because I've had the same double-sided wave brush for a minute. And I needed a new one, so I got fresh, poor bristles against my head. Went out. And so I was standing it was funny because it's weird being uh you know black in america right now because i was standing in that section for a minute and i wondered if she wondered what i was doing because most people just
Starting point is 00:06:16 on a regular basis know what they want from a beauty supply store either you're coming because i wasn't sure if i wanted to go with the classic which is murray's bees or either you're coming in getting your wave cream. What's this big jack dude looking hair? Because I wasn't sure if I wanted to go with the classic, which is Murray's Beeswax, and they have the regular yellow beeswax, or they have African black beeswax, or if I wanted to try something new, and I just went with this product solely because it was like a black couple,
Starting point is 00:06:44 and they both had dreads, and I think it's called like Twisted Life or something like that. Like just totally. I was like, all right, let's try it out. Now, the dreads, when did you decide to do this? Does this have anything to do with Killmonger? It 100% is. This is 100% the culmination of everything I've been saying I was going to do since we last talked about it. Yeah, because you were like, no, this is my new style icon.
Starting point is 00:07:09 This is who I am. Yeah. And yeah, I remember right after Black Panther, you came in shirtless with a nice fashion overcoat on. I was like, oh, this man takes no half measures. Oh, yeah. No, no. It is 100% me following. And you're going to – do you think you're trying to pull the same –
Starting point is 00:07:23 Well, see, that's the thing is when she was twisting it, she asked, she was like, oh, do you want it put to the side? And I was like, yeah, but I didn't realize it'd be this skinny.
Starting point is 00:07:30 So like, I wanted the Killmonger right now, I'm rocking the Travis Scott. Yeah. Right, right, right. But we gonna work our way up. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:37 It looks like whatever Travis Scott's existing head is, but then his body was blown up to your side. So relative to your size, they look smaller now. I get goosebumps every time.
Starting point is 00:07:47 So have you had dreads before? I started, and I got to this twisty stage. But see, I started with more hair this time. Last time, it looks real weird when it's like this thin and twisty and smaller. And I just couldn't. Like everyone who has dreads will tell you, it's like you got the ugly face that you got to go through. And then your hair starts locking up and they're thicker and it looks cooler. Right. And I could not make it through. I just didn't have the patience. Also, my like second cousin was twisting it and I just wasn't able like because like even right now my hair grows so fast. It was kind of already getting fizzy. And I wasn't able to get to her quick enough. And I just got tired of trying to track her down because of my hair growth.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And I just bailed. But this time, I'm going all the way, baby. Nice. There you go. Don't come back until you get that killmonger. I've seen Robert Covington from the Sixers, RIP, Sixers season. Damn, I didn't think you were going to bring that up. He did the same thing.
Starting point is 00:08:46 He was going with it. It was like five straight games. He had the tiny little twist. They didn't even look like they weren't even as big as yours are right now, and then he just bailed on it. Was it during the series, too? No, it was during the season. Okay, well, we know what happened.
Starting point is 00:09:01 We know what happened. If you would have followed through, the strength of jaw would have held you. The strength of jaw would have had you make it. The lion of Zion would have come through. It was definitely one of those sports things. The Sixers collapse was one of those sports things that it was just like some ineffable thing where they just like didn't have it. It wasn't like clear, but like the Celtics just were making all their shots and the Sixers just for whatever reason. I think it was strength of jaw.
Starting point is 00:09:25 I do feel like Simmons had a real strong showing this. What a great opening season. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He just fell apart at the end. Yeah. I mean, he can't carry the team. He's a rookie. He can't carry the team on his back.
Starting point is 00:09:40 Come on, Australia. I was promised by a certain man who goes by the name of LeVar Ball that Lonzo was going to take the Lakers to the playoffs. And I tweeted at him. I was like, yo, Lakers make it to the playoffs. I'm going to buy some of your Z03s. If you notice me right now, I'm not wearing Z03s. That was a good promise to make because you wouldn't have to buy those nasty fucking shoes.
Starting point is 00:10:04 I'd be like, yeah, man, if you're there, I'll buy three pairs. No, I'm not buying those fucking shoes. If you want something that's overrated. Oh, man. I think what's overrated is just trying to figure out art. I feel like in the past year, we've gotten a lot of art that has allowed us to do what we want with it. A lot of it from Donald Glover, whether it be the Teddy Perkins episode and even This Is America. And I feel like everyone tries to like over dissect it.
Starting point is 00:10:36 And I read this dope post on Very Smart Brothers, which was more about how people were trying to point out that he has a white wife but he was saying how like we as creators always have to deal with the bullshit that people project onto our art and assume that we're saying when it really comes from them and i think that i think that's very true like i i even had i've been trying to stay out of like just dumb fights but like one guy did like was his take on the video was like oh he's not really saying anything and to me it's just him killing a just a bunch of black people and i was like if that's what you're taking if that's what you're taking from the video you're not even giving it a chance like you want to not like it right you're you choosing to ignore the metaphor and really
Starting point is 00:11:19 trying to look at it because the way i was looking at it is the fact that everyone who contributed to the song uh in a big way which was the choir and the guy at the beginning you thought he was going to be a big part they were murdered and they moved on and i take that as a metaphor for how black art and black culture is very celebrated and then the moment you know someone dies in the black community no one cares like the same people who will try and use the same like slang that we come up with who are trying to whip and nay nay those same people ignore when a black person is killed by the police they live their lives and it just kind of shows how america treats black people as
Starting point is 00:11:57 disposable while also trying to really absorb our culture and then i think the importance of it being him doing it and then at the very end being chased is a message to people like sheriff clark and kanye west where it's like you can contribute to the you know basically decimation of black lives but at the end they're still going to come for you yeah you're not safe right you being a part of it does not make you yeah you can shuck and jive all you want but and that might not be what he's saying but that's the beauty of art is what you get what you get out of it yeah right um but when but a lot of people will take their negative stuff that they're dealing with and put it on art and say that they're doing that and it's like well yeah i mean it's one thing if you're gonna critique the art like that or you know if some person
Starting point is 00:12:44 that that that is the thing that there it the symbolism in that video is so dense that it can go so many places. And in general, just art as a medium, like, you know, just as a form of self-expression. It does allow people, because of its ambiguity, to attach messages to it that for whatever reason is where they're coming from. But yeah, if you're if you're trying to critique the video, but you're just sort of pasted cutting and pasting your weird worldview on it, right. That that's not very critical, but I was even, someone sent me a tweet on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I forget who it was, but to a link to a HuffPost interview with an expert in like sort of Jim Crow iconography and things like that. And just trying to really parse through everything. And even he was saying like, look, that's the thing with symbolism. Like we can't say what he is intending
Starting point is 00:13:26 unless he is telling us what his intent was. Otherwise we are just going to, you know, we can always attach whatever we want to, but that's the beauty of it because some person can look at the Jim Crow thing and be like, okay, that was him sort of talking about the duality of how white performers and blackface
Starting point is 00:13:43 would perform as Jim Crow, how black people would perform as Jim Crow. And that can be the duality of how white performers and blackface would perform as Jim Crow, how black people would perform as Jim Crow. And that can be the duality of sort of appropriating black culture. Or you can look at it one way or the other, whatever, whatever. But yeah, that is sort of the beauty of all of it. But also, it can be a frustrating part when someone just tries to go, well, I think it's really just about these black people killing each other. Yeah, I feel like think pieces that are reductive should be outlawed because
Starting point is 00:14:07 they're not they're not helping anyone they're just coming from a place of like hatred uh but things like the reaction to the this is america video a lot of the analysis where you know they're showing you all of the symbolism that you didn't notice was there um i think this happened with the last episode of sopranos uh the the movie room 237 where they have like you know 20 minute long analyses of the shining with different interpretations all of which are completely convincing those are i think what the internet was built for. I love that shit. Like that shit is great, but, uh, yeah, maybe give it like, give it some time, maybe a couple watches before, if you're going to write something like try to like give the creator the benefit of
Starting point is 00:14:58 the doubt, because I guarantee you they put more thought into it than you're putting into it, watching it once and then just being like, yeah, yeah yeah yeah iffy what is something that is underrated you know i think i'm gonna keep it simple this time i'm gonna say comic books i've got back into reading comic books physical books yeah the physical books i i picked up i finally picked up the tenahasi coats black panther run it was really good i you know i noped out of capes uh which is uh comic nerd slang for comic books about you know superheroes and uh i kind of came back in and it seems like they're trying to do some fun stuff especially like getting some interesting writers like tennessee coats roxanne gay so and i actually you know sat down instead of watching tv and and read some comics.
Starting point is 00:15:46 So that's why I still haven't seen Thor Ragnarok, everyone. People have been asking. I'm going to get it. Oh, you mean just because you've been reading books? Reading these comic books. Are you waiting to read a comic book before you watch that? No, it just keeps getting pushed back. Oh, because you've just been...
Starting point is 00:16:01 I need to see it too. Yeah. Prepare to have... Soup Perdue and a hosni just gave me I've been busy. Oh, because you've just been. Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. I need to see it too. Yeah. Oh, well. Okay. Prepare to have. Soup Purdue and a Hosni just gave me the craziest side eye because they said I hadn't seen Thor. Yeah, yeah. Wow. Don't worry.
Starting point is 00:16:12 Prepare for people to be tweeting and asking when you've seen it because ever since I announced that a few podcasts. Well, right. Well, they don't expect that from me. They'll be like, what do you mean you didn't get high today or something like that. That would be a shock, I think, to people. If you, what's a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false?
Starting point is 00:16:26 Oh, man. I'm going to just do it just because it's right now on brand. This is my new brand, my new way of life. White people can't get dreads, y'all. White people don't get dreads. You physically cannot get dreads. Someone pointed this out in a, you guessed it, Tumblr post, and really went into the science of it where it's like,
Starting point is 00:16:43 oh, no, that's true. The reason black people hair lock up is because our hair is just so naturally curly right so that's why like we twist it and then it's going to naturally lock up when you get the white dreads uh basically your hair is just getting tangled and matted until it kind of gets like a dread you do like a dread but that also raised my curiousness which i'm probably gonna google later so next time you see me that'll be my google searches i wonder if like you know jewish like white people like with curly hair we'll get it but i but based on what i heard yeah yeah like if you if you if you're imagining him right now like the balding dress well remember
Starting point is 00:17:20 that guy on the on the court side of Golden State that everybody was zooming in on? No. Oh, I'm not even going to describe it. I want you to look up guy on the court side of Golden State. I saw Ben Schwartz zoom in on him, and I almost woke up my daughter because she was asleep next to me, and I just shotgun laughed so hard. Let me know if you get trouble finding it because I'll just look it up for you right now. Whoa! Oh, is that Adam Duritz?
Starting point is 00:17:56 Just the thickest dreads. Wow. Like, what a head of hair. Yeah. He's happy. He's living his best life. Oh, yeah. This is Adam Duritz.
Starting point is 00:18:06 It is Adam Duritz? That's legit Adam Duritz, baby. Well, you know, gray is my favorite color. Wow. I mean, look at him. Yeah, those dreads are, they're almost jokey. Because they're like Bob Terwilliger. Like, you know, Sideshow Bob from The Simpsons.
Starting point is 00:18:22 Like, almost how his hair, how it would look like in the real life version. Yeah, he looks. Yeah, I think. I haven't thought of counting crows in so long. Yeah. But like if you even look at his dreads, how they almost look slick down. Yeah. Versus like when black people have dreads, they look like thick. You can see that they're almost like one thick solid curl. Yeah. Versus like when, when black people have dreads, they look like thick.
Starting point is 00:18:45 You can see that they're almost like one thick, solid curl. Right. Um, so. So that's dreadlock pride. So, so,
Starting point is 00:18:52 so those aren't dreads. I don't think this is a controversial take, but I think it is good to be an official position of the daily zeitgeist that white people should not have dreads. I am with you on that. And it's, it's tough too, because I know some white people with dreads. One of my best friends, I know people who have had dreads, and they're not the kind of people who are really
Starting point is 00:19:13 sort of the traditional appropriators of culture. They're sort of people who are so about, like I've met even Japanese people who are so down with that roster of life that they just go down there and they get it, and part of me is like, yo, y'all are and they get it and part of me is like yo y'all are fucking up and then part of me is like ugh but I've also seen people like that who are like in the
Starting point is 00:19:32 streets for like black people too and it's like hard to be like damn you're a straight up ally you're not about the bullshit either cause you'll see like Black Lives Matter and then you'll see the white dude or white person with dreadlocks and you go what do I do? I feel like there is like a general like consensus among like black activists where they're like, I will just eye roll. At least he's here.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yeah, right. It's tolerated. But come on, guys. If that is you, like there's plenty of great haircuts that don't, you know, offend people. I mean, you guys already talked about it, but I just want to touch on my favorite take about like the Met Gala where all the right wingers tried to be like, my religion isn't your costume. They really thought they had the aha moment. Right. Just ignoring the fact that one, like Catholicism is more linked to latinos than it is white people in general
Starting point is 00:20:25 first and foremost i know some irish people gonna hop into my uh tl right but irish catholics weren't the ones being like my yeah culture and it's like secondly that just showed like that they had just no idea of what culture is and almost like proven you don't have a culture. Because there are probably some times you could do it. Like you could have waited until Oktoberfest, came hard with those takes. Right, right, right. Like there are times where you can actually make that.
Starting point is 00:20:54 My leader hosen is not your cultural. Like you could have, there are times where you could have taken that take, and we'd be like, yeah, all right. But you just had to jump the gun like you just have no understanding of what culture is right and also the catholic church is not necessarily on the mega side in the culture like the catholic church is at the very least a mixture and uh you know yeah because this is like we said in the, right? Yeah, the Trill Pope.
Starting point is 00:21:25 And like we said in a past episode, the Catholic Church, you know, loaned the people from the Met Gala, like a lot of the stuff that they were wearing. Rihanna was wearing a popette that was on loan from one of the bishops. I can't wait until it gets back to the Vatican and was like, I want to wear the Rihanna hat. I want to wear it. The Rihanna hat. Let me sniff wear it. The Rihanna hat. Let me sniff it.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Fenty. All right. We are trying to take a sample of the global shared consciousness, what people are thinking and talking about right now. And we are going to do that right after this break. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you.
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Starting point is 00:23:58 Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from? Like what's the history behind bacon-wrapped hot dogs? Hi, I'm Eva Longoria. Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. Season two. Season two.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Are we recording? Are we good? Oh, we push record, right? And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Seeing that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba, and the piña colada from Puerto Rico. So all of these...
Starting point is 00:24:38 We have, we think, Latin culture. There's a mention of blood sausage in Homer's Odyssey that dates back to the 9th century B.C. B.C.? I didn't realize how old the hot dog was. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. How do you feel about biscuits? Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes, and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit, where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the biscuits. It's right here in black and white in the prints. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it.
Starting point is 00:25:41 On segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools, these charter schools were exempt from that. Bigger than a flag or mascot. You have to be ready for serious backlash. Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And this is what I love about my co-host miles ray is he has had experiences with just the strangest subcultures he was telling us about the krav maga scene like
Starting point is 00:26:18 going to classes where uh you know the instructors are just telling you dude crab maga okay if we were gonna talk about this crab maga is the uh like the self-defense system developed by the idf the israeli defense force and when i was in high school i did it for like two years or like just getting out of high school and every class like there's this one instructor who this guy sam he was like an ex like idf dude every situation you know most people go there because it's a very effective self defense program but every scenario where he would teach us a move was actually
Starting point is 00:26:51 like an assault like you were assaulting someone it was never that so he's like it was never like ladies let's say you're walking back from the parking someone grabs you in the darkness it was always like guys you know maybe you're at the bar, and this guy's talking shit to your girlfriend or something.
Starting point is 00:27:09 You're going to come up to him, yeah? You're going to put your hand in his face. Then, boom, you follow up with the right straight. And, like, it was always, like, just shit that he was solving, like, club beef with, like, this very aggressive form of martial arts. And be like, yeah, maybe the bouncer is telling you something you don't like. Like, Hey sir, you're too drunk and you need to leave. And honestly, Cindy, you know, we know her.
Starting point is 00:27:30 She's the bartender. She says you broke up three weeks ago and you shouldn't be here because you have a restraining order. Maybe you should let go. And then you say, what the fuck, bro? You're going to punch him in the throat. And then clearly there's two bouncers. They're going to grab.
Starting point is 00:27:44 So it was so from that to and then during the break Miles was talking about how people who were on Molly back in the day would put Vicks Vaporub under their eyes so that when they were peeking their eyes would get that fiery sensation
Starting point is 00:28:02 just turn your face up all that dark shit in Miles' past is his gift to us. All right, guys, let's get into the stories. I said that in a way that was like, we're about to talk about good news. And we're not. There is some Benghazi from the world of Chris Brown and co. from the world of Chris Brown and co. There's just a horrifying story from somebody who is accusing he
Starting point is 00:28:30 and his friend Young Lo. Of all kinds of stuff. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you can read all about it, but essentially this lawsuit that is being brought, this victim alleges that she was raped in Chris Brown's home by someone in his entourage and Chris was also involved in some weird stuff.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Story is very dark and I'm sure will evolve. But again, you know, I mean, Chris Brown, I'm surprised he's still out here. I mean, I'm sure now with Chris Brown and his track record, maybe this will happen. No men will come to his defense i mean what you know at this this will be the time that right no males will find a way to try and defend this person yeah i'm right maybe this is how we identify like the the darth vader of toxic masculinity is the like one guy who's like, guys, I don't know. I mean, when you think about it,
Starting point is 00:29:27 right. Comes, it comes to his defense. Yeah. If someone, I mean, yeah. Come with that take moving on.
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Starting point is 00:29:44 stormy Daniels, a nudie magazine is printing weekly. Are you think it's monthly. This month's Penthouse? There's no way up. With Stormy Daniels. Annuity Magazine is printing weekly. Are you kidding me? Yeah. And we'll link off to it in the notes. Yeah, again, you have to hate your life, though. But yeah, they ask about it. She doesn't even really give them a good answer other than to say that it's small.
Starting point is 00:30:01 So I'm going to cut you off because right after I said that i decided to search chris brown on twitter fourth tweet down chris brown can't catch a fucking break oh my god yeah okay well thanks boo joe yeah r.i.p your mentions man uh especially that it's in the main page sorry to derail that yeah but of course that was going to happen because there will always be men who will be like, well, actually, we're the victims here, man, because before this was all chill, and now it's like a problem. Right, right. So, yeah, come on.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Time to fucking grow up. Oh, my gosh. We do want to talk about the hostage release that happened overnight. Three people who were being held hostage in North Korea were released, and, you know, this is good news, obviously. But it's also just a hilarious example of how Trump is going to deal with any piece of remotely good news in his presidency. Because he tweeted a video this morning that is a straight up Michael Bay trailer with Hans Zimmer soundtrack going in the background.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And I don't know. It's just interesting to think about this in contrast to how Obama announced that, you know, we had killed bin Laden. Like he specifically said the phrase, you know, we don't need to spike the football. And Trump's reaction to this hostage release is a slow motion end zone dance with like a fighter jet fly over. He spiked the football, ran over to the cheerleaders, used their pom-poms to do a dance, then pulled out a cell phone from behind the goalpost, took a selfie, started Millie rocking with the mascot, and then made a video out of it and then retweeted it. All in the end zone. Yeah, exactly. He did all that shit in the end a video out of it and then retweeted it. Oh my gosh, right. All in the end zone.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Yeah, exactly. He did all that shit in the end. All of it. The most extra version of spiking the football is what this video looks like. And, you know, it sets up these meetings with Kim Jong-un that are going to happen now on June 12th in Singapore. And we'll see how that goes. I mean, you know, Trump was very optimistic when they asked him, like, oh, well, this is great that they left out the hostages. And he was like, well, it looks like he's trying to do something.
Starting point is 00:32:04 It looks like he really wants to do something. But again, we always have to be careful with our expectations. But I think – And he has said that too. He's been like, I don't necessarily know what's going to happen. Right. But a lot of experts are saying like, look, the way that North Korea sees it too is they also will probably have a schedule in which they are going to agree to this. It's not like they're going to pull up to Singapore June 12th and then they're going to come out holding hands being like, all right, completely denuclearized. Right. But who knows? That could be a possibility too.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Very unlikely though. But the very fact that he's having a meeting with North Korea that was completely offered to him and set up by other people, I think he deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. For sure, for sure. It should be called the Trump Prize, though. Right. Let's just do that. Yeah, we should rename it. But that is interesting,
Starting point is 00:32:51 because moving on to the Iran nuclear deal, if he goes into the North Korea meeting and he gets them to somehow stop their nuclear program, disarm, agree to open inspections for the first time, like then like Fox News would probably shut down for a day just because they wouldn't be able to fucking handle themselves. But like then you might even say, okay, maybe like he gets in the discussion for an actual Nobel. But that is exactly what we had with the Iran nuclear deal that he just pulled us out of.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Yeah. Unilaterally, he blew up the deal. He was just like, yeah, all that stuff that would be the best case scenario for this North Korea thing, we're going to say fuck it just because it was accomplished by his predecessor. Obak Barama. Right. So a version of the story that has filtered down to me, or at least that I have misunderstood, is that after the nuclear deal was torn up, Iran reacted by tearing up the deal and then burning a paper American flag and then launching missiles at Israel. And that's kind of the way that it had been filtered down to me. I don't know if I had that wrong. I was listening to, I think it's Today Explained podcast, and they were making the case for why the deal falling apart is a disaster. And they were saying that, you know, and then Iran fired these missiles after the deal fell apart. And they did say, and it wouldn't, we're not saying
Starting point is 00:34:24 it happened specifically because the deal fell apart, but they didn't say like and it wouldn't, we're not saying it happened specifically because the deal fell apart, but they didn't say like why it did happen. So I literally remember saying out loud, wait, why wouldn't you say that? You haven't given a reason for it. And the thing that has been completely left out of this whole story is that Iran has been attacked multiple times in the past couple weeks, and also immediately after America pulled out of the nuclear deal by Israel. Israel has attacked Iranian bases in Syria, and so they were holding back on striking back at Israel, they were waiting to see which way things went on the nuclear deal.
Starting point is 00:35:08 So it is connected in that way, but they are responding. It's not like the version of the story where they just respond by firing missiles at Israel makes it seem like. And, you know, they fired at Israel because they're anti-Semites and that's just how Iran works. And it's like, no, they were specifically provoked by these attacks that killed like many Iranian people. And yeah, so I don't know that that just seems like a piece of context that was left out. Well, I think, but it's also in the context of this conflict, right? Is that as Iran is fortifying positions in Syria, that is what is making Israel more and more nervous because they know they're diametrically opposed. This is what's happening as this whole conflict escalates. The Israelis don't want Iran anywhere near their borders.
Starting point is 00:35:58 Iran is trying to fortify their positions in Syria. So this is just building and building and building now. their position serious. So this is just building and building and building now. And yeah, like these strikes have been, like there's been this basically shadow war essentially that hasn't really been at the forefront of the reporting in this country. Now it's just becoming more and more unhinged
Starting point is 00:36:14 because like we're just kind of saying, yeah, I guess we're going to back you up or there aren't really repercussions. It's just causing this whole atmosphere of uncertainty that is slowly just escalating and escalating. Really? Yikes.com.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And actually, just to kind of provide further context, super producer Ana Hosnia is here. So can you explain, Ana, like why Iran is in Syria or like how the sides break down there? Iran backs Bashar al-Assad, the leader of Syria. So they are in Syria because a lot of the people on the ground in Syria are supplied by Iran. So they're Iran's revolutionary guard. So that's who a lot of the like soldiers are on the ground in Syria.
Starting point is 00:36:58 So they have a lot of military bases in Syria. So I guess what happened was, like you were saying, in Syria. So I guess what happened was, like you were saying, Israel had an airstrike to take out some bases in Syria that belonged to the Iranian government. That escalated to Iran retaliating. And then Israel currently says, that's it. We don't want any more escalation. We just want to make a point. Because basically what Benjamin Netanyahu and the whole Israeli government wants is for Iran to get out of Syria. They want them to like back up, get away from our border, go away. Because Syria is on the border, shares a border with Israel. Yes. And that makes them nervous. And they just don't they really just don't want Iran and Syria.
Starting point is 00:37:43 Right. Iran v. Israel is sort of like the main conflict of the Middle East. So Israel says, we won't go any further. It's over. We just want to make a point. Iran says, if you continue to act up, we will come for you. We don't care. If you continue to act up, we will come for you. We don't care.
Starting point is 00:38:14 And I think right now Iran has more, they have more of a chance of coming at Israel, I think. The ball's literally in their court, if you will. Right. I don't know what Iran will do. I do not believe Iran will leave Syria. I think they've made it quite clear they're there to stay. Right. For the time being.
Starting point is 00:38:30 So if it does escalate, it's not going to be good. Has Israel been involved in the Syrian conflict up till now? Yeah, Israel has done airstrikes. Like from the start? Yeah. They say over 100 times. Yeah. They've been involved for a while now. specifically because of the expanding military presence of Iran.
Starting point is 00:38:47 That's just their whole reason for doing that. It makes them nervous. They don't like it. And so, yeah, this is very – it's new that they're like directly doing cross-border sort of attacks. And that's just something to keep an eye on because, yeah most people are just like, this is a very dangerous escalation. And I think it's important to know that this is the first time Iran has actually shot into Israel's Golan Heights. Right. It's never escalated this far yet.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Right. So Israel will continue to attack within Syria, but they'll never actually go for the actual country of Iran because I think that's a death wish. That's full scale war yeah right so if iran does retaliate in any way because iranian people were killed in the multiple attacks that um israel conducted on the bases in syria israel has said they will retaliate again like so basically it's just like oh you take one i'll take one you take one i'll take one so hopefully iran does not retaliate and just kind of uses their presence in syria as kind of like a bullying technique because ideally that's better than them shooting missiles back into
Starting point is 00:39:53 israel right so that's currently where they're at right now yeah we've seen this story play out on looney tunes where they get the bigger guns yeah you know what happens at the end of that bit they all blow up the The world blows up. Right. One mallet turns into a bigger mallet, turns into a gun, turns into a missile. Yeah. Also, the war, if it leads to a war, everyone's afraid Hezbollah, who also backs Bashar al-Assad, will get involved. And nobody wants that because then all these different regions will start going at each other.
Starting point is 00:40:23 And where's Hezbollah from? They're in Lebanon, but they're like a proxy for Iran. Yeah. They work with Iran. And they have a lot of, they have weapons in Lebanon that are very close to the Israeli borders. Like, that's another thing to factor into it. It can go from this one localized thing to a full-blown, like, regional thing. And a lot of those weapons are supplied by Iran.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Okay. So, they're deeply connected. Let's go into the dark world real quick yeah and well no i think so if like let's say worst case scenario this breaks out into just what what do you think would be the next step if like you know now lebanon's stepping up to the plate is anyone coming to support israel or is it expected that amer America... Israel's side is the U.S., Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates. And then Iran is backed by, obviously, they'll have Syria on their side, Russia, which is not someone you want to fuck with. And Turkey is edging the line.
Starting point is 00:41:18 So we don't know. Depending on where Turkey goes... Turkey has traditionally been with the U.S., but now they have a straight-up dictator in charge. And that seems to be the hallmark of the whole Putin al-Assad. I've recently learned about the Saudi Arabia-Iran beef only because of – in the wrestling world, there was an event called the – did you guys talk about this on EA? We haven't talked about it, but I followed it because the world is basically idiocracy. Yeah. So in the wrestling world, they had the greatest Royal Rumble that took place in Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 00:41:51 And two Iranian brothers, American-Iranian brothers, went and did a match where basically they got worked by a group of Saudi wrestlers. They came out dressed in the traditional garb with the flag, came and they talked their mess, and then they basically just got beat. It was like you're able to watch the segment on YouTube. They kind of get just dunked on. Right. And let's just say Iran was not happy about that,
Starting point is 00:42:18 especially right now. Right. In a way, reading it, I did feel bad for him because he was like, I was just doing my job. But I was you know I did feel bad for him because he was like I was just doing my job but I was like it did when you watch it it does almost come off
Starting point is 00:42:29 a little bit propaganda-y because it's like he's big bad and it's because of the nature of wrestling is everything
Starting point is 00:42:35 super heightened but like the big bad Iranians come and mess with the Saudis and the Saudis just do shit and I'm sure
Starting point is 00:42:42 that's part of what they were like you know we'll make it a big show. We'll even help prop up, you know, we'll whip up the nationalism by having this little match go down. It's all theater, but I mean it's all
Starting point is 00:42:52 something to keep our eye on. What if that wrestling match is the like Princip shooting Franz Ferdinand? Oh, that's Gavrilo Princip? Woo, boy! I hope not. We will be judged harshly by history books. They'll be like, and then this wrestling event happened, and here's pictures of it.
Starting point is 00:43:16 All right, let's move on from there. We're all screwed, right? Is that, to summarize, we're all fucked? The Middle East is definitely not in a good place. Right. That's for sure. And that's what we'll say for now. But yeah, I guess the last thing to think is the Israeli defense minister, his quote was,
Starting point is 00:43:32 if it rains in Israel, it will pour in Iran. Fuck. Their whole attitude is like the Krav Maga, dude. It's a very aggressive situation. We'll see how it can be de-escalated, what kind of diplomacy can be factored in. I feel like that nuclear deal was really keeping everyone in check because Iran wouldn't mess around because they don't want to pull attention to themselves. They're like, hey, we're following the rules. Don't hit us with sanctions. And then Israel wouldn't have messed with Iran in that sense because I believe because
Starting point is 00:44:00 they're with America, they knew not to actively go after Iran to create more issues. And I feel like the second that deal dropped, Israel was like, fair game. Yeah, exactly. You want to fuck with us? We'll fuck with you. And it's like, oh, boy. And it was even happening a couple weeks before America dropped out of the deal,
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Starting point is 00:48:21 for History as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And we wanted to briefly revisit the documents showing that Michael Cohen had been transferred all sorts of money from AT&T, a Korean aerospace firm, and a Russian oligarch. And we, you know, like I think a lot of the media, got all excited about this. And now with a little bit of uh time and you know uh space from from the revelation it seems like this might be another sort of nothing burger in the sense that nothing illegal necessarily is
Starting point is 00:49:15 happening here um well we don't i mean that's wait hold on it's very possible that something illegal is happening it's definitely a form of corruption that they are paying him for access to the president. That seems like something that shouldn't happen, but people are like, yeah, but that happens all the time. And the biggest problem would be that he didn't file as a lobbyist. But again, that's a... Right, but if he also promised
Starting point is 00:49:41 some kind of legislative effect of that money, that's a completely different thing. That's actual pay to play. That's not just, hi, I need access to talk to this person. It's like, hi, if I give you this money, will the government do this for me? Yeah, I mean, if you ever wanted to know why black people are mad all the time, especially black people who grew up in the hood and poor it's shit like this because i've known people who were arrested and jailed for way less for for the suspicion of way less where it's like oh you had a a plastic baggie that could fit a nug of weed oh we're just gonna lock you up till we figure it
Starting point is 00:50:16 all i see one stem and an empty pack of backwoods like it like it it really is like interesting to see the difference between like how sure you have to be at this level of crime versus like how, you know, just on the suspicion of something. Whereas like in the hood, if you're there, you're just as much a criminal as if you did it or not. You know, like if you're just being there is enough. Yeah. Just being there is enough for you to be arrested. And we've gotten a lot of videos that are evidence to that effect. We've gotten basic confessions from the mouths of the people who we think.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And it's still like, I'm not sure. Meanwhile, people are getting the police called on them because they're taking a nap in their dorm because they're black. Okay, Yale. You know what I mean? Or going on a college tour. Or go to Airbnb. Or the person at Waffle House, I think last week or this week, who took his sister there and was getting choked by the police. But here's the thing. That's very true.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Even the black guys at Starbucks, they got arrested. They were taken downtown. And you're telling me all these lines up, we're not even going to bring any. We're still going to be like, let's get a little bit more before we start bringing people that's just the way these kinds of crimes work you know what i mean that's a and that's why the the legal system is different at this level than it is like for regular people that's my man wesley snipes man yeah that's my man wesley snipes hey i think he begged to differ but yeah i think we speculated too like i don't know if it was on mike but before when we were reading this story yesterday how it was like yeah maybe it's pay to play or maybe michael cohen is this fucking scammer and was like yeah bro if you give me fucking four hundred thousand dollars
Starting point is 00:51:53 i'll introduce you to somebody and be like yeah take your fucking money and the people uh one of the firms that gave him money said that they had to keep paying him because they had a contract with him even after they realized that he wasn't going to do shit for them they say it just gives you the impression that this is like a actual con artist michael cone is an actual con artist who you know these fortune 500 companies like come into contact with them they don't know what the fuck they're doing and they're just like my word, he lied to us. But we still have to pay him, right? There's a story in Rolling Stone from the beginning of this month about how Cohen, in his background when he was a attorney, was connected to these scams where people would rent a U-Haul, crash into their friend who was in a enterprise car,
Starting point is 00:52:47 and then they would use the insurance from that. And Michael Cohen was representing one of these people, would use the insurance for that to collect money. But it would all be completely arranged. It's just like low level, like smashing in a parking meter level bullshit. Dude, I love that. I know. It's so that these scams are just such Joanna scammer, kind of just weirdo, like broke boy scams. Yeah. And you take a guy doing that and put him next to the president.
Starting point is 00:53:19 And a thing that people are saying as this comes to light is that none of these Fortune 500 companies thought Trump was going to win like the rest of the world. So when he wins, they haven't prepared. They have no inroads to the president, which it's fucked up that like Fortune 500 companies automatically assume they need inroads to the president or like have always had inroads to the president. That's how it works. president or have always had emirates to the president. That's how it works. But so they start scrambling to get access. One person with ties to the Trump campaign said that he was approached by a top tier tech company after the election with an offer. They would pay him $50,000 a month to make introductions to members of Trump's team. So no lobbying, just we'll pay you $50,000 a month,
Starting point is 00:54:06 as long as you introduce us to a couple of people who work for Trump. That's just how Fortune 500 companies go. That's how corrupt Washington is, just on a baseline level. Yeah. So now you take that into account and it's like, okay, so Cohen steps into this really corrupt town and is the most basic low level scammer. And he's just going to be like, yo, like, yeah, AT&T, pay me two million dollars. I'll fucking you'll get to sleep in the White House. Yeah, whatever it is. I mean, that's what we'll see what happened if like those if that those monies were dispersed.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Also, you know, like if he said, OK, look, Donald, I'm going to get like 1.2 from Novartis. Right. Like we'll split the shit. Right. Now, if he was passing that along and it is weird that the payment to Stormy Daniels came out of this same shell company, that is what's shady. But it's not like a smoking gun. The Russia thing, there is a Russian connection. But like his wife has been connected to shady Russian and Ukrainian shit for decades. So it's not necessarily like the Russians started approaching him once he had access to the Trump campaign. It's like he had shady contacts with Russian organized crime going way, way back. think the thing is there's evidence now of money being exchanged and before is just sort of like you can connect these people all together but now you're like oh you gave him a half a million
Starting point is 00:55:28 dollars right so real estate advice right okay uh-huh yeah yeah no this guy's this guy's a genius he's the guy he's the guy you want uh so there there very well could be something here it's just not necessarily as shady as i might have assumed at first yeah well that's the thing too and i don't know well i mean or it is exactly as shady it just might not be as easy to tie to trump right right as i thought at first but this is a problem with all this shit is that it's really distracting people from any kind of meaningful messaging going into the midterms which is like because stormy daniels is like this whole avenatti stormy daniels thing is like as a mainstay for especially liberal media because they they love it just feeds the trump show narrative and like really i'm curious when the messaging is really
Starting point is 00:56:15 going to start coming out of like trying to uh shore up democratic support going into the midterms uh because everybody is so focused on this shit and this culture war shit. We need that. Yeah, yeah. All right. I wanted to move on real quick to a tool that I didn't know about, compete.com. I thought you meant to say a computer. Computer?
Starting point is 00:56:38 Oh, no. So there's this website, similarweb.com, where you can look at the top websites in the world, like the most visited websites and the average visit duration. It's just a cool little tool that I hadn't seen before. And so I was just going through, checking out the top sites. And interestingly, there are three porn sites that are bigger than Netflix. No way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Right, because they're free. Yeah, that probably helps. Also, the time on site is interesting because when you look at 10 minutes as sort of a good dividing line because like so Google average time on site, Google's the biggest site in the world. Average time on site is eight minutes and 51 seconds. YouTube, it's 21 minutes, which is crazy, but that makes sense because it's just free television so people can watch it. But other than YouTube, the only sites that really get above 10 minutes are basically porn, which is like at 12 minutes,
Starting point is 00:57:51 and Facebook, which is also at 12 minutes, which I think is interesting because Facebook is, like this is something that, I was reading this article about how Facebook was contributing to this sort of social unrest. And it was basically like laying the groundwork for a genocide in this country where it was like a big way that people communicated with one another.
Starting point is 00:58:17 And it was spreading all these like wild videos that were suggesting that one ethnic group was trying to uh chemically castrate the other ethnic group uh and it was just oh this is in sri lanka right yeah sri lanka yeah and it's a feud between the buddhist majority and the muslim minorities and the buddhists think that the muslims are like trying to like literally sterilize yes sterilize sterilizing agents in their food uh and this is being spread by these facebook videos and And so as I was reading this, I was like, yeah, but just in a in any objective reality, as the Internet rises up, there's going to be a site where you can like post videos. actually specifically explains why. It's that Facebook is specifically engineered to make you spend as much time on Facebook as possible. So every single thing that they're showing to you has been specifically engineered not to bring you correct information, not to do anything, but make you watch it and stay there and share it and go on to the next video.
Starting point is 00:59:26 And I think you see that in this similar web thing that the only sites, it's basically like pornography for our- Your ego. Ego. Yeah, essentially. It's ego pornography and sort of like brain quick fix pornography. So I don't know. So what you're saying is you're addicted to Facebook? I am personally not, but I do think that, you know, for Facebook to be safe, and Facebook is the second biggest website in the world right now next to
Starting point is 01:00:00 Google, it just needs to change its central tenet, which is to, you know, but everything is engineered to keep you on Facebook for as long as possible. Right. Yeah, and that's dangerous when you think about the algorithms feeding you that kind of shit because they know, oh, this shit keeps people on
Starting point is 01:00:20 because it's just fiery rhetoric. Right, it's confirming what you already think. If it's in Myanmar or Sri Lanka or wherever, it also has a hand in perpetuating this really shitty stuff. Yeah, posts that tap into, this is a quote from the New York Times article, posts that tap into negative primal emotions like anger or fear studies have found produce the highest engagement. And so those proliferate.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Yeah, which is why a lot of those videos where, was it ITV or Channel 4 in the UK went undercover to talk to Cambridge Analytica. Even those guys are saying like fear and anger are like really going to motivate people. And like, these are the ads that you want. So, yeah, I feel like that's the basic, you know, human reaction. Like if you follow a lot of like celebs or people of uh note on twitter like what's the thing they respond to the most it's always like the hate comments and all that stuff like i used to be real annoyed like at when i'd like be like oh you're dope at this thing or like i'll compliment them and like they you know they don't even start they don't care and you'll see them
Starting point is 01:01:22 spend all day fighting with people who hate them it's like wow you really would spend more time like interacting with people who hate you than to who who are just like driving you insane than people who are saying like oh man that's that's dope and you know right yeah um i never did there there are porn websites on this i didn't even know we're popular i know that's another thing I've never heard of xnxx. Oh, yeah. The xnxx is great because it's one of the last few. I mean, they just recently got into that territory, but they were one of the last few who didn't care about the sites that it came from. So you're able to get a lot of the low-key vids that were behind paywalls.
Starting point is 01:02:05 xnxx is the 11th biggest website in the world. I didn't know it existed. Oh, in the world. Okay, damn. Yeah, in the world. And it also has the highest average visit duration of any site other than YouTube. It's 14 minutes long. Yeah, they beat Pornhub too.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Yeah, Pornhub is actually the third biggest porn site. XHamster, which I had also heard of, is like the... You've heard tell of this XHamster. I've heard tell of this XHamster, but it is the fourth biggest, and yeah, the two Xvideos and XNXX are the two biggest porn sites in the world, and I
Starting point is 01:02:39 hadn't heard of either of them. Which makes sense because lots of times I'll see on Pornhub videos go like, this is in X videos. And I was like, oh, this was stolen. Right, right, right. Oh, yeah, we can see the watermark. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:52 Okay, well. It's the Wild West out there in the world of the internet. Ify, it's been a pleasure as always having you, my man. Where can people find you? You know, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Ify Wadiwe. And you can definitely catch me find me on Twitter and Instagram at ifywadiway, and you can definitely catch me Tuesdays on Nerdificent, Monday on Candy Dinner.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Just doing too much. And here, here when I come here. Yeah, yeah. Miles, where can people find you? Oh, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. You can find me on Twitter at jack__obrien. You can find us on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:03:27 You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song that we ride out on, which, Miles, what's that going to be?
Starting point is 01:03:43 Last time we did a Sevdaliza track, people were really vibing to it. If you didn't start just diving into her catalog of music, well, I'm hitting you with another one. This is a track called Human, which I think she dropped last year. Amazing other track from Sevdaliza. Also, if y'all are into dance, as a kid i love dancing and i just love dance in general as an art form there is a great video on youtube uh my homegirl galen hooks is a choreographer she did a dance to this uh human by seb delisa uh also peep that if you want to see some really dope dancing to this song uh but yeah seb delisa human because that's all we are i'm just trying to feel more
Starting point is 01:04:22 human check that shit out uh we are going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye. Bye. Bye. I breathe in and out I own the heart and the air and the night I've been here one time It's passing me by
Starting point is 01:05:12 Been in the night in front of my judgmental eye Precious this time Been so cold Girl with my own I don't know I am flesh Bones I am skin
Starting point is 01:05:36 Soul I am human Nothing more than human. I am sweat. Blots. I am veins. Scars. I am human.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Nothing more than human I am human I am a fox I am a deer I am a fox I am a fox I am a fox I am human
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