The Daily Zeitgeist - Squid Game Reality Show? Coupchella Strategy Talk 06.15.22

Episode Date: June 15, 2022

In episode 1269, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and podcaster Molly Lambert, to discuss… Strategy Is To Prove Fraud?, Trump’s response is predictable, They’re Bringing A Squid ...Game Reality Show To Netflix and more! Strategy Is To Prove Fraud? Trump’s response is predictable Trump Needed 12 Pages to Say How Pissed Off He Is About the Jan. 6 Committee They’re Bringing A Squid Game Reality Show To Netflix HEIDIWORLD: THE HEIDI FLEISS STORY (AND THE SECRET HISTORY OF LA) LISTEN: Cash In Cash Out (feat. 21 Savage & Tyler, The Creator) by Pharrell WilliamsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:01:25 podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 241 episode 3 of the daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's wednesday june 15th 2022 which of course means that we are national megalodon day national megalodon day which happens to be an obsession within our household right now oh really yeah it almost sounded like i was saying something about j.a. adande right megalodon day national megalodon day that's his aka when we have j.a. adande on megalodon day megalodon
Starting point is 00:02:38 it's megalodon day today oh wait how do they know about megalodons they watch the meg or is that like the new sharp that if you go to a museum, they're like, The Megalodon, actually, fuck a great white. Yeah, it's books. Like, that's, I don't know how, because I have not been able to persuade the people in my life, my wife and, you know, my parents when they were out here to let me show my six-year-old Jaws, even though I had seen it a hundred times by the time I was his age. But he is still like through osmosis,
Starting point is 00:03:10 just like taking over my obsession with sharks. And he, you know, why wouldn't you be obsessed with a Megalodon when it is like a, a great white, great white times three. Yeah. It's just the,
Starting point is 00:03:24 the ramped up supersized great three. Yeah, turned up, yeah. Yeah, it's just the ramped up, supersized Great White. Anyways, my name's Jack O'Brien, aka y'all know me, still the same OB, never played an OD. That is courtesy of Fighter of the Nightman. Followed it up with some bars. I did not have time to kind of figure out how to get my mouth around,
Starting point is 00:03:45 but appreciate the faith, appreciate the knowledge of my and one nickname, I did not have time to kind of figure out how to get my mouth around, but appreciate the faith, appreciate the knowledge of my and one nickname, Obi-Wan Playnody, the fighter of the night, man. And, yeah, I felt okay coming with a very modest AKA because I feel like Miles told me he wasn't going to do shit and that it was going to be like a real low-key AKA. So I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Hey, man, Rudy, please put that bottle down. Yeah, you, Rudy Giuliani.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Toe up, drank, sex shop, drank, disbarred, drank, butt dial, drank, Borat, drank dye drank Rated drank Now I done threw up around some people Living their life all coddled Trump daddy had the golden ass can we still vote that's in Chicago He just could not fucking deal With moving back to Mar-a-Lago Some people just did not win the popular vote
Starting point is 00:04:39 That was his problem I could hear a voice boom show tunes He's gonna have a stroke soon So I just stay fucked up, filling up my cup. I hear the crowd boo. Matter by the minute, on the record, now defeat. Took a sip, then another sip. Then somebody said to me, Rudy, why you babysitting Trump?
Starting point is 00:04:56 You must have forgot about 9-11 and the mob you fought. Might look like a grinning ghoul full of liquor, but you fighting. Fool full of liquor but you fighting fool full of liquor and you frightening yeah wave a few papers and the hair dye sweat gets mocked but the media still all gonna watch yeah i'm a grinning fool a fool full of liquor but i'm fighting a fool full of liquor and i'm frightening oh my gosh that waffle house House Christy Yamaguchi main You came through with that Kendrick AKA
Starting point is 00:05:28 Got me rehearsing that shit so I could get it right I hope I did it justice You did well done Bucket For a second when I was like When I put the headphones on I was like maybe I could do a whole Kendrick rip off career Yeah you sound like
Starting point is 00:05:46 my swag is like this when i wrap them and it's time anyway well that's a good way to start the day that is a good way to start the day and start the show and bring in one of our favorite guests on the daily zeitgeist yes it's a brilliant talented ingenious writer podcaster who's written for publications like the New York Times, the New Yorker, the New York Review of Books, GQ. Oh, my God. You might have read her feature on Machine Gun Kelly, Megan Fox. I am weed.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Broke the internet. She was a co-host of the legendary podcast Girls in Hoodies and Night Call. And the creator of the legendary podcast that just dropped its final episode. So you can go listen to the whole thing in one sitting right now. Heidi world, the Heidi fly story coming to the stage. Welcome back to the show. It's Molly.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Wow. I can't, I can't follow any of those AKAs. They were so good. Here's what I've got. Okay. Clap your hands if you think that the minions are really cool. Clap along if you think that the minions are sweet like grue.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Because I'm clapping. that's what i got okay i like that i mean that it's a miracle those aren't the lyrics i mean i do think the minions are really cool i also hot take don't think that song is as annoying as everybody else does well because you're happy and you do live in a home without a roof so it's because it's because it's bossa nova it's fun i've always enjoyed it it's a fun song when people are like this is the worst song ever how dare you know there's other songs yeah i think it was i wonder if it's just because it's also a song that became so like ubiquitous like it was everywhere that it just had added to people's like, I hate this song.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Much like the Minions. They are everywhere, but actually they're pretty good. Are they good? I don't understand. Oh, the Minions are fucking great, man. Minions are great. They're so much better than a lot of other kids' CGI stuff. What language are they speaking? Italian?
Starting point is 00:08:02 I think a French person made them, but they are speaking like Minionese, which is like blah, blah, blah. Yeah, because sometimes I'm like, wait, I caught a couple words. In my mind, I'm like, is this a language? They say banana. The Minions are,
Starting point is 00:08:15 like apparently the person who created them is just a walking, talking, like that's who that person is. Yeah, what do you know? Hey, what do you mean? People are like, holy shit. But yeah, it it really works it's like a great i feel like one of the things that i'm confident like that's been created in the past 15 20 years that people still have in the pop culture lexicon uh you know decades into the future yeah when i am driving back from the
Starting point is 00:08:42 valley back to my my home on the east side, and I see that big minion on the Universal, makes me happy. Is that our Christ the Redeemer of the valley? I have a real strong QAnon feeling about it for some reason. Okay, so for people who don't know, at the edge of the valley sits Universal Studios. And at the top of the hill there...
Starting point is 00:09:09 The Jaws ride, the King Kong ride, those are the things that I feel like are the most known. The Jaws ride, the Jack's Kids. Too scary for Jack's Kids. Too scary for my kids. We haven't taken them there yet. I'm assuming when Harry Potter enters their world, we will be going to Harry Potter world. Oh, right, right, right. So in that location, there's a gigantic minion on top of the hill. And it just sort of overworks into the valley. Lord's over the valley and it has one eye. Yes. I love it.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I'm obsessed with it. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah, just the one eye overlooking the valley. Yeah. You know, peering into all of our souls it has an illuminati energy i think it's sort of like the yeah the illuminati pyramid with the one eye on it that's the minion okay i like that you know we got to really look into that
Starting point is 00:09:56 well we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to continue checking in with the, what are we calling it? Coochella. So we're going to look at the strategy with like, it seems like the thing that is sticking the most is the fraud, the cheating people out of money, at least like, I don't know that just taking a just broad, not really paying attention to not watching the actual thing, but just like watching the headlines and watching social media feels like that's the thing that people are like, damn, $60,000 for Kimberly Guilfoyle to introduce her boyfriend for two minutes. And yeah, so we'll talk about that strategy. We'll talk about Trump's strategy, his response. We're we'll talk about trump's strategy his response we're going to talk about the new squid game reality show that netflix is bringing they have decided to completely miss
Starting point is 00:10:53 the lesson from their from their show and just turn squid game into an actual reality show where people compete for the highest reality show prize ever, 4.56 million. So we're going to see a lot of desperation. It's going to be really entertaining. Wow. And we had a stop down, a tech issue. Miles's AKA actually knocked out the power in his whole neighborhood. It was so good.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Sorry. Sorry, everybody. Sorry, but not sorry. It's better for the world. It was a necessary thing. hour in his whole neighborhood it was so good sorry sorry everybody yeah you know sorry but not sorry it's better for the world it was a necessary thing that happened look i try and spit bars responsibly but sometimes you get carried away and you end up affecting you know my neighbor's oxygen machine sometimes the grid's not ready yeah you do live next door to that uh tv producer from big lebowski and the Iron Lung. Yeah. Gary, the man is here.
Starting point is 00:11:57 All right, Molly, before we were so rudely interrupted by the limitations of the Los Angeles power grid, I was going to ask you, what is something from your search history? I was looking up red pandas, little cute guys that are fun to look at. They are so cute that they look fake. Like they look badly photoshopped. Yeah, they look CGI because how could anything exist and be so cute? Like if someone showed me a picture of this, I would be like, well, that looks like shit. Like try harder with the CGI because this is like the eyes look like stickers. Like they don't even look like they should be possible.
Starting point is 00:12:32 No, they are. They are proof of God's malice. Something so beautiful and cute could exist. Yeah. Truly. Are they? Are they like, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:46 if you zoom out, are they like vicious? Like they have like the most poisonous mouth? No, not at all. They're just little cutie boys. Oh. It's always like something with like little cutie animal.
Starting point is 00:12:56 They're like, yeah, but don't get the spit on you or your leg will fall off. You're like, what? Are they big? Like in the movie Turning Red or how large are we talking here? They're big enough to hug.
Starting point is 00:13:06 Oh, yeah. That's all I care about. I mean, they're little weird bears, you know? They are bears, but... Like eternal fox puppies or something. It's so... Yeah. So what, you trying to buy one?
Starting point is 00:13:18 Well, look, if I see one, I'm going to get grizzly manned. I'm going to find out firsthand. If they will kill you, because if I see one... And Werner Herzog firsthand if they will kill you because if i see one will narrate yeah because if i see one i'm kissing it this also represents the like is a good example of the limitation of the imagination of the evangelical and creative design movement like remember there was a video i was actually talking about this on a secretly incredibly fascinating recently that's coming up that's a lot of fun but there there's that video where like an evangelical pastor or maybe it was kirk cameron was like holding a
Starting point is 00:13:57 banana and was like this is proof that god exists because like how could something so perfect it's got a peel and you just open it and it's like well dude like that's not like humans invented bananas with specialty breeding and wow you really have the minions on your mind yeah i do banana if i had minions on my mind i would be calling them bananas you've really been Minion Brand. No, you're right. You're right. The banana we eat now is like all hybridized. They should be showing pictures of red pandas.
Starting point is 00:14:33 I mean, like, is this not? Well, check out. I just dropped a link in the chat. This is what I look at. It's red panda every hour on Twitter. Okay. Hour is HR. And I put it in my list feed of people whose tweets i actually read because
Starting point is 00:14:49 i follow too many people so i have like a secret list that i actually look at and i drop it in there so that the tweets are broken up by an hourly picture of a red panda just being cute i mean one of these looks like it's caught on like a little like backyard cam like in the wild could you imagine just like instead of a possum which is the thing that i always just see waddling through my backyard uh you saw one of these little fuckers i mean come on come on i would literally like every picture i look at it i get mad i. I'm like, God. Oh, it's activating, like, the caveman aggro reflex? Yeah, I love when things are so cute, they make you angry. Have to protect.
Starting point is 00:15:31 It's like, I have to crush it. Yeah. No, it's like, I have to protect it. From anyone who will crush it, like Miles. Yeah, damn. Miles just revealed something. No, there was this whole study about that reflex that we have about it and why some people literally do the things like,
Starting point is 00:15:48 oh, I just... You know, the thing of I want to squeeze it. Of mice and men it. Yeah, exactly. Lenny that shit. They want to Lenny it. You made me realize... I was like, wow, is every podcast just of mice and men?
Starting point is 00:16:01 But yeah, that's when I was just reading. I'm like, oh like there is this like this weird thing that it sets off like you're saying to protect it or just seeing it just we fucking melt down so i also think it's a good illustration of uh the difference between men and women in some cases and you know the the instinct to nurture uh which I actually happen to have too, Molly, or the instinct to destroy, like Miles revealed that he just has. Well, I think they're twin instincts, right?
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah. Nurture and destroy. That's what the red panda represents because it's like a bear with teeth and claws, but it's so fucking cute. Truly a lesson. What is something you think is overrated overrated uh always again forgetting to think of anything before doing this podcast what's overrated
Starting point is 00:16:56 red pandas go through no absolutely not not overrated, I'm just like so too excited about everything right now. I'm just like everything's, anything is good. Everything's perfect. I have such a high tolerance for bullshit right now because I'm like, oh, we can go back outside. You know, some things I'd normally be like the city walk garage. I'm like, no, it's paradise. I want to pay $30 to park in a parking lot. Thank you, Rick.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I just, I don't want to repeat myself. I feel like I always say the same things. I feel like I want to say breakfast tacos, but maybe I've said that before, so I don't want to just be repeating. They need it. All right, I'm going to say overrated Saturday, underrated Thursday.
Starting point is 00:17:44 What? This is a young person's take. Oh yeah, it's a young person's take. Yeah, that's a couple of years. Wait, so what's the... Explain to me. I mean, I
Starting point is 00:17:59 understood Thursday being tight if I was in college, but go on. Well, not just college. First of all, we're all in college again now that we can go out again after COVID. Time is meaningless. We're all podcasters here. We don't have a traditional work schedule. I just think Saturday, there's too much pressure to have fun, to make that the focal point of your week and be like, that's the night I'm going to have fun.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Right. And Thursday is like, if you you have fun it's like a bonus right yeah yeah okay so like when you're you're saying like do you realize how much fun you're having thursday in the moment or like when you get home and you're like damn i did that on a thursday yes yeah i think it's just like it's like a fun you know know, if you go out on Thursday and you have fun, you're like, oh, that I didn't expect to have such a good Thursday. But if you have a, if nothing's going on on Saturday, you're like, man, this is so depressing. It's Saturday. If nothing's going on on Thursday, it's like, well, it's Thursday. Right.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, I get that. I was like, I felt the same. I went to see Jurassic Park last Thursday and I was like going out to a movie on Thursday. I was like, this is the fun living, baby. That's what I'm that. I was like, I felt the same. I went to see Jurassic Park last Thursday. And I was like, going out to a movie on Thursday. I was like, this is the fun living, baby. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You're in the moment.
Starting point is 00:19:11 But I didn't realize until I got home. Or like afterwards, I was like, that was sick. That was dope. What I just did right there, going out to a movie on a Thursday. Right? Just like, who can stop you? No. It's just, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:24 It's cool. Everything sucks. But honestly no it's just i don't know it's cool everything sucks but honestly it's cool we don't live in the 50s and have to like put on a suit and tie and go to a job every day right like i was gonna take your overrated underrated and extend it i think weekends are overrated we didn't used to have them in the 1800s okay let's. Let's just work all the time. Okay. Anti-union Jack over here. He's like,
Starting point is 00:19:52 he bought a vintage Pinkerton uniform. He's going to be wearing later to the Grove. I do think there's a lot of bad things about the work all the time, no boundaries, every day is a work day
Starting point is 00:20:09 because of email, you know, thing. But I also think the flip side is that every day is also a weekend. Every day is a day off if you want it to be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Damn. Mindset. Yeah. Yeah, it's the opposite of the grind set. Yeah. Right, exactly. You bend the spoon of the grind set. Yeah. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:20:25 You bend the spoon with your mind by making every day the weekend. It's the fine set. Yeah. Maybe it is a collegiate mindset, but you know what? That's how I'm feeling right now. That's great. We're all in college again. We're like super seniors.
Starting point is 00:20:40 I want to get to where you are. I feel like we're super seniors in LA. Right, right. The super seniors of LA. I'm going to go places and I'm like, oh yeah. That's what we'll name our secret club. Super seniors of LA. Which just sounds like a bunch of people who meet to walk at the mall.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Yeah, exactly. Sounds like a retirement community. You know what again the line between the retiree lifestyle and the collegiate uh go out every night lifestyle pretty thin yeah fine finally all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.
Starting point is 00:21:32 And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed
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Starting point is 00:23:20 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:23:43 I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:24:02 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things
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Starting point is 00:25:17 listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. like primetime event television. I think there's like five or six hearings total. There's five total at this point, or that's where we're headed. I think that's where we're headed. I can't, I don't, I didn't really actually keep up with the actual schedule for Cucella.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Cause I know that they do this, they do the circus. And then right before midterms, they will then, you know, be like, and here's our assessment type thing. Right. So they, they're waiting to drop the hammer right before the midterms, they will then, you know, be like, and here's our assessment type thing. Right. So they're waiting to drop the hammer right before the midterms.
Starting point is 00:26:09 Yeah. So I don't know. But yeah, as it is, I think we have another one or two this week. And Molly, are you glued to the hearings? Or are you just like, you know, waiting for them to drop the hammer and carry Trump off? I am completely checked out. No, because none of that's gonna happen what right i mean i just going from the johnny depp and amber heard trial right into the
Starting point is 00:26:34 january 6th stuff really just we live in hell dudes are batting a thousand right now in legal i truly don't understand why they're even doing this because there's no it's just a show trial it's like nothing's gonna happen to anyone I feel insane when I see like liberals posting about like Trump's gonna get carried off and handcuffs you know like Nixon it's like I don't he's definitely not and they're not even gonna like give him a tap on the wrist it's gonna be like diane feinstein being like thank you well yeah thank you we're all gonna put on our kente cloth and uh thank trump for that hero officer who so valiantly defended the Senate chambers.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Like, like truly what's the point? Like where, like they're all just on the same team. Right. And the team is like civility or whatever. And yeah, it is. There's really a group of people like in on the Hill, though, that like realize you're like, well, we can't have people this rude. Right. And like they're united in like ousting Trump
Starting point is 00:27:45 for being so rude. But even then again, they don't have the willpower. I feel like I just see people posting about Trump so much too still. And I'm like, he's not the president anymore. He's not the reason everything sucks. Like Biden isn't doing anything either. It just like, it makes me feel insane anything either it just like it makes me feel
Starting point is 00:28:05 insane because they're just like yeah well doing all the same like it's muller time where i'm just like what are you talking about like oh my god i would fuck the shit out of robert muller i know i know it's so hot you say that every day and we have to cut it out of the show i know sorry but i think that what they're doing is what they do all the time is that they don't they don't know We say that every day and we have to cut it out of the show. I know. Sorry. Apropos of nothing. All that stuff. What they're doing is what they do all the time is that they don't know how to just do something that's good. So they need public sentiment on their side to do it. You know what I mean? They just want to be like, oh, that's illegal, man.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Fuck that. Here it is. Here's your marching orders, DOJ. Go do something. Go prosecute. But the feeling is so much like everything's like did you see that guys right so then he took like 250 million dollars that's bad right and everyone's like we fucking know somebody said it was like a west wing bonus episode they were like oh so they're not they're not going to do anything
Starting point is 00:28:59 to any of these people there's no consequences like to me it's crazy because it just says you can storm the capital and like nothing will happen yeah actually and again just makes me be like seems like maybe just the wrong side is storming the capital it's not that right people shouldn't be storming the capital to get stuff such as let's say guns outlawed right well everybody this would just be a story about like the thousands of people who were murdered on the steps of the capitol if if it was the other side storm that was a thing too it's just like we all saw like nothing yeah they were doing selfies we saw the selfies that's one one clip that i feel like we're not getting a lot of or at least i haven't been
Starting point is 00:29:42 watching but like that doesn't seem like the angle that the democrats are going for is like showing the capital police flip flicking it up with the the people who are storming the capital i mean it does seem like okay a show trial and it seems like it's openly a show trial right like there's a show trial but it's like even a show trial is usually meant to crush dissent you know in some way right like the he Fleiss trial from Heidi World, the Heidi Fleiss story in Secret History of LA was about scaring sex workers into not doing, you know, into compliance. into anything because you're saying literally nobody's like heidi flies went to jail this is like nobody's gonna go to jail there's literally no consequences it's so like though for the people so far it's like the the seditious conspiracy stuff for proud boys is probably like the biggest thing you're like okay well that's they're pursuing something there and peter navarro being the only
Starting point is 00:30:43 person from that administration actually getting arrested. I was like, oh, because Mark Meadows did the same thing. And they've they told they've said, no, no, we're not going to charge him. So it's like, yeah, I mean, he's like, yeah, piecemeal or like sort of ceremonial or like gestures towards. Right. Happening. But I guess that's why I'm so the reason i'm like even looking at it is because to your point i hate the idea that we're just gonna send the message to people it's like look man as long as you as long as you're doing it for the right reasons like it's like we'll kind of let that shit cook but and i think that's what really frightens me knowing like
Starting point is 00:31:20 is this is it fully just going to play out like most other things where america has to deal with like a problem of like white supremacy or fascism and then it's just like drop the ball right they're just soft on white supremacists they're like whoops they didn't mean it you know again if you're saying like yeah if the black panthers were storming the capital it would be a different story. Yeah. And I don't know. I feel like when you hear about things from the past, like the Watergate stuff, and then you see just like, oh, that's not going to happen. That's like, we could do that, but we're just not going to hold anyone accountable.
Starting point is 00:32:00 Actually, it makes you feel crazy. It's like when you, I don't know, a thing that has always made me feel crazy was like, oh yeah, protests stopped the Vietnam War. But then when we were all protesting the Iraq War, it didn't really do anything. They just kind of made it illegal to protest. So yeah, it just, it makes you feel crazy and have no faith in it.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Yeah, I mean, I think if you hadn't at this point realized that the people in charge have abandoned you and uh are gonna fuck us all then uh maybe this is the the moment but again that must make me feel crazy as people being like we're getting justice right yeah gavel time okay gavel time to show me the actual receipts first before you start celebrating. Cause that's the thing I'm when I'm like, this is, it's, it's like any,
Starting point is 00:32:50 it's like every other moment we've had, we're like, well, we'll see. Well, we'll see. I'm not going to get too excited, but because again,
Starting point is 00:32:57 like I, like the, the optics of it all are like the, the energy from this committee does seem more like it was bad and it's like yeah we fucking know fool like what the fuck is this like please well yeah address it or don't but i mean the difference between watergate and this is not like the severity of what happened and like the obviousness like the fact like they they tried to overthrow the results of an election and like get rid of american democracy and that's all out in the open the difference is that like most of the
Starting point is 00:33:30 country doesn't give a shit and an entire party doesn't give a shit when you look back at watergate and like how that actually went down like the country was like oh that's bad we should like he shouldn't be the president anymore and like we're just that's not changing here. Like, we're not going to suddenly convince half And here are the things that are going to stick with Trump, like with Trump's followers and like will actually hurt his reputation. pissing people off is that Kimberly Guilfoyle, Donald Trump Jr.'s wife, was paid $60,000 for a two-minute speech introducing her boyfriend at the actual insurrection. And it really seems like that's the one thing that, because the victim is the people who donated to Trump's campaign, it feels like that's a thing that logically makes sense to go after and is probably the thing he's least careful about because he commits financial fraud the way other people breathe. all do this stuff they all take money for speeches that they shouldn't take if they had any intention of being a real like a good politician so yeah and it's also playing into the thing like that's like somebody's saying like why are they doing the trials it's so that the democrats can use this to grift and go you know get paid to make speeches about how they they took trump you know to task
Starting point is 00:35:24 and it's like they're all just scammers. They're all scammers on both sides of the aisle and they're all going to fuck everybody. Right. I think the like long view for the Democrats with this is that they want to try and pick off at least as many Republicans as possible who might be open to hearing about what happened so just to kind of etch like etch away at like whatever support there is and then probably come with some like like weak ass like mail fraud charges at the end of this and then be like we'll see because then we keep because they like you're saying they're underlining the way like his
Starting point is 00:36:03 supporters are being wronged too that was like a big dimension of Coachella night, too. It was like, look at all your money. Look what they did. So why are we calling it Coachella? Because it's just it's been a festival. There's multiple nights. We have headliners. We have.
Starting point is 00:36:16 But what's the coup? Oh, coup. Oh, C-O-U-P. Sorry. We should just pronounce the P in this case. Coop-chella. It's a new word. I was straight up like, I was like, coochie-chella?
Starting point is 00:36:29 Yeah. Cooch. Like, you mean like freak-nick? Like freak-nick? Not like freak-nick, RIP. But it's cooch-chella, C-O-U-P. Coop-chella. But yeah, that's what it feels like, especially with like a lot of the big stuff, like where you see like the big lib, like Twitter accounts who are like, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:36:49 That's mail fraud. Donnie was like, right. I just like I'm like, I don't understand those people who really do. They really think we're going to see Trump getting on the helicopter in handcuffs like Nixon. Or are they just I don't know. They're just brainwarmed. It's all the same people who were like, we're getting a new deal with Biden.
Starting point is 00:37:07 And then it's like, okay, well, none of those things have happened. Yeah, there's a level of like a combination of comfort, privilege and ignorance that you have to like have present for you to look at a situation like this and really think it's going to happen, right? You're ignorant enough to not know that this country has a terrible track record dealing with white supremacy and right-wing extremism and fascism. Then you also have to be privileged enough and comfortable
Starting point is 00:37:36 enough to not have any of the policies of the government really affect you because you can either spend your way out of it or they're just not those are just there's just not pressures that are real to you like most other people so and then you're in denial that the country is actually what it is so it's easier to keep retreating to these things of like yes they got him because i don't want to say whatever what most other people are who are kind of looking at it, you know, and just gasping with despair and being like, it's so fucking backwards and dark. And this, like you're saying, it feels like the upside down where you have people who are advocating for, like, you know, human rights and they get the shit kicked out of them. And people are over here, like here like meanwhile beating cops up with
Starting point is 00:38:26 whatever they want and then they're like thank you go on it right yeah um so trump predictably trump is not this isn't kind of great for him he like he he's kind of flying off the handle i mean he does kind of thrive on conflict uh so maybe it's not the worst thing for him but he put out a 12-page screed on how corrupt this whole process is and i don't know like some people are saying it feels like desperate and like defensive but like he from day one has always seemed desperate and defensive like I don't know like or at least like swung back and forth
Starting point is 00:39:10 between desperate and defensive and like there's levels to his shit you know like it'll be like when he was in office he would just be like it's fake news and keep it moving and not have to explain too much this motherfucker put out 12 pages with footnotes
Starting point is 00:39:25 okay in the fucking thing because he's like trying to have like a legal rebuttal to what is happening and he's just and really at the end of the day it shows like how like upset he is that like the people to see his like former aides and people in his administration just openly talking shit like bill barr like laughing even though let's not forget bill barr is just saving his own ass this whole time and this trial has allowed him to be like yeah and i thought it was all bullshit don't don't listen to the parts where i said mail-in ballots may be potential avenues for fraud uh trump is like trump just wants everyone to read a sub sack right no 100 yeah i mean like if you think about like the the way his ego is just like a all consuming all devouring black hole and like he has launched a bunch of l's like since he left
Starting point is 00:40:15 office like he can't like get his sub stack like can't get people interested in like from the desk of the president or whatever the fuck like that thing was can't get a social media platform off the ground no no truths no yeah it's a like that that's gotta hurt his feelings so maybe we should just you know continue the streak and ignore the fuck out of this yeah if we hurt his feelings enough he'll just disappear that's what i'm saying he'll realize he's a bad guy he'll figure it out and he'll be so embarrassed he'll just disappear that's what i'm saying he'll realize he's a bad guy he'll figure it out and he'll be so embarrassed he'll never want to show his face again oh i'm so sorry i shouldn't have done when i do that he goes on in this thing he goes former ag bill bar a rhino if there ever was one didn't have the courage or stamina to go after voter fraud
Starting point is 00:41:01 was afraid he was going to be impeached. No guts, no glory. Okay. Rhino, you say. And then he goes on to say, like, again, amongst the 12 pages that people even bothered to make excerpts of, the January 6th unselect committee is disgracing everything we hold sacred about our Constitution. Like, you give a fuck about it. If they had any real evidence, they'd hold real hearings with equal representation. They don't. If they had any real evidence, they'd hold real hearings with equal representation.
Starting point is 00:41:24 They don't. So they use the illegally constituted committee to put on a smoke and mirror show for the American people in a pitiful last ditch effort to deceive the American public again. I mean, part of that's kind of true, but. Right. Smoke and mirrors show. Yeah. Put on a smoke. The old smoke and mirrors show. I thought he was going to say put on an absolute smoke show.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Put on a live podcast. Yeah. But I mean, it's, it's, this is really, I don't know. You watch, I think on the periphery, right? What like, as this goes on and you see how much Fox doesn't want to talk about it and how much like Newsmax is just saying like even wackier stuff because like they they're going to get sued if they talk about Dominion voting systems that it's just like they're having trouble dealing with this in a like a way that could even follow the logic for Fox News. Because like on Laura Ingraham, there's been like, oh, man, it's like barely any showmanship in this thing. Like they were critiquing it like it was like a child musical, like at an elementary school. Like they were critiquing it like it was like a child musical, like at an elementary school.
Starting point is 00:42:38 And all like in the meantime, people like Brit Hume on Fox, he was saying like, you know, he's saying the thing that a lot of people say, which is like, you know, a lot of Republicans secretly hope that this kind of hurts Trump. And then he's not able to run because a lot of people don't feel Republicans can win with him at the top of the ticket. There's something to that for sure. Like there's a lot of, I mean, there are plenty of savvy Republicans who like are actually understanding like, yeah, if we're going to get to power, we can't just have this guy there immediately. Like that hurts the chance of like my fucked up America that I'm dreaming up. And it's not the one trump has and i can i can definitely see how there's conflicting views there but like you add to that too nikki haley who's also you know a person who they've said is like rumored to run for president in 2024 she's doing the thing now where she's picking like pick she has her own house candidate picks that are in direct opposition to trump's like revenge picks in South Carolina.
Starting point is 00:43:30 So, you know, there's like it's it's always curious to see what the calculus is of like the DeSantis is and Nikki Haley's of the world who clearly feel like they can have their shot. But I'm like, I don't know. All of them actually seem pretty still shook at the idea that he's still so popular. So I'm like, I always take those kinds of quotes. I don't know. still so popular so i'm like i always take those kinds of quotes like well i don't know do we think there's any chance because if if they go with trump like is this the moment for a leftist candidate to come in i know like there was conversations about how like a lot of people
Starting point is 00:43:59 in the democratic party don't want biden to. And then like his press secretary came out and was like, to be clear, Joe Biden is running in 24, 24, but I don't know. Like it does feel like, like Chile just elected a leftist and he was, bro,
Starting point is 00:44:18 they're not going to let us elect a leftist. Right. Remember when, remember when they rat fucked Bernie? That's, that was our last chance that was the boat that was watching the titanic sail you know start to sink like we're fucked we're fucked america is over
Starting point is 00:44:34 america is over i think that was the sign that that you know obviously vote locally obviously i'm stoked about some things here that have happened in la but i think uh that was a sign to like organize amongst yourselves and have a constantly yeah we have a mutual a mutual aid network of people that will help you because the democrats are never going to help us and they're never going to let us get a real leftist progressive candidate so you know the democrats will fight that harder than they fight oh for sure they you saw that they did yeah but if it ends up being like biden trump and then a leftist candidate like in that person will mysteriously die like i'm not even kidding like they they are so afraid of
Starting point is 00:45:27 yeah anything good ever happening in this country and also you know that's why they crushed the 60s is because can't have chile resources you know shea for decades and then you know eventually but we have different we don't have a culture of rising up but they that's the whole point is that they're saying you can't do a revolution unless you're a bunch of rising up but they that's the whole point is that they're saying you can't do a revolution unless you're a bunch of white supremacists and then it's fine and you'll just get a slap on the wrist right and but again if we tried to levitate the pentagon which we should right it's not going well for us i think yeah like like you're saying right there have been constant reminders where yeah the leaders are missing the ship like
Starting point is 00:46:06 we're missing the opportunity we're like hey what about climate change how about all of the shit that we were identifying as existential threats and they completely just they'd fuck it up because again there's just a mixture of like one percent of people who understand what the stakes are and then like 99 of like career like demon people who just what the stakes are. And then like 99% of like career, like demon people who just want to take as much corporate donations as possible. So because of that, the makeup of the,
Starting point is 00:46:33 of the Congress is not a group of people who get it. They're all, they're like our old grandparents who have millionaires, crazy capitalists. Right. And they're also like, we happen to be there during the golden age, during the one time in history when we had this post-war boom of money and everybody could have a job for 30 years and then retire. Why don't you guys just do that? Right.
Starting point is 00:46:55 And it's like, wait, grandma, that's not what the deal is. It's like, well, you always have new shoes on. You know, why don't you just work hard and save money and uh eventually you'll be able to buy a five million dollar house in los angeles while it's catching on fire the did you see speaking of the pipeline stuff did you see that the like the villain of one of the like main threads of the cooch coochella was an environmental attorney this guy jeffrey clark he's like a he's the assistant attorney general and like came in and was basically like hey man like i'm going to do the thing where i ask people to send different electors if you just make me attorney general and it was like a three hour long meeting but it's just so wild that he's hit by trade an
Starting point is 00:47:44 environmental attorney let's can't even get that right yeah i mean again like i'm bringing up nixon a lot but like you know nixon is to the left of like most democrats at this point yeah you know yeah he was like more of an environmentalist than all these people i think things have just shifted so far to the right since reagan that they're not they're not going back they're just they fucked us so bad and they deassembled all the you know if they had had an again just like if they had had an ounce of like doing what what they should do you know biden ran on like this new deal kind of thing has done anything so they just don't care i have to think
Starting point is 00:48:26 that they just don't care yeah i think there are people that do and they but they don't they don't realize how out of their depth they are they really like because like when you read about the frustrations in the white house it really is it's out the elderly trying to figure out why young people don't like them and they yeah and being like it's ageist it's ageist if you don't like you know nancy pelosi and it's like well it's not ageist to think that it's actually super fucked up to think people should work until they die yeah and especially if you're a public servant, like, of course you can like make art until you die. But like, should you be in office until you die?
Starting point is 00:49:09 Probably not. I think these are also difficult conversations to have that people don't want to have, especially because we're going to have like a huge elderly population soon of boomers. Just like we're so fucked. Yeah. We are so fucked. And the people making the decisions are all going to die soon. Yeah. We are so fucked.
Starting point is 00:49:25 And the people making the decisions are all going to die soon. Yeah, like, Dianne Feinstein. I guess that's what I'm, like, talking about. Like, that's where my, like, small grain of hope and probably, you know, naivete. But that was also, like, where I lost my mind with the RBG stuff. Where it was just, like, it's not feminist to fucking stay and off you know to do it to refuse to give over power to the younger generation to a younger woman who might be able to like protect fucking abortion rights if you could just check the chat i i did send you a video of her doing
Starting point is 00:50:00 push-ups though so i think we're actually clear on that but it's just like as like a left it i don't know i've also maybe just like given up on the idea of feminism because i've seen just women be manipulated against each other in these insane you know like all the just the bernie and liz warren stuff made me feel so fucking insane that i was, you know what? Yeah. I'm giving up. Yeah, yeah. I think, I mean, I think the only hope that I see is that a plurality of people, because their living situation becomes so, like, fucked up, that they begin to either interact more, like, and get more involved, or at the very least like lose these like weird partisan allegiances to be like and i'm a democrat and i do this and like phase to more like an understanding of like we we like people in this country deserve better it's not being delivered and that's where it has to go and i think the amount of organizing with unions i think underlines too that you're seeing like plenty of people are reaching that breaking point. So that's where I'm like, the
Starting point is 00:51:09 only thing I'm like, well, where's this going to break? That's the thing that I look out for that keeps me not fully, you know, with a cloud. I think it's just like, there's two set, right. You can get really blackmailed. And I don't believe in that either. I think you have to like, I just think it's like, you're either on poor people's side or you're not and the democrats clearly don't give a fuck about poor people in this country and you know we see that in la too it's like the way alleged democrats treat the homeless it's just like you know you're fascists if you right straight up so yeah to me that's like that's all it is it's like yeah do you, do you care? The American mindset of just like, I'll get mine is fucking toxic.
Starting point is 00:51:49 And we saw during COVID that that was all they did, was be like, everybody just do your own thing. But also, yeah, when they gave us unemployment and gave us five seconds off, then people did organize and people did. Right. They're like, fuck these conditions.
Starting point is 00:52:07 They're like, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. Yeah. Yeah. And then they were like,
Starting point is 00:52:09 never again. Cause, uh, they saw that people could, you know, spray paint a cab on the Beverly center, which was my favorite. High art of 2020.
Starting point is 00:52:19 I think, you know, like with all those things combining, right. And there's, I, this is like the one thing you hear repeated over and over from like the like operative political consultant set is that all the billionaire clients are really
Starting point is 00:52:32 worried that a real conversation shifts to, well, who has our money and how, and what, and how is it like that? Because everything they do is to keep the conversation away from like their hyper wealth. And I think, again, my thing is people become slightly less shackled to the idea of like how our political system works and understanding that like we live in this like casino where people with huge fucking amounts of money can do whatever the fuck they want and sort of enact the kinds of things that they want to that we begin to sort of shift that conversation. It's definitely not going to happen in the mainstream media because that's completely paid for by the people who don't who are paying them to not talk about them or them or make them the source of their ills. You're not going to hear conversations around inflation with a huge emphasis on corporate profits that happens maybe once every four days
Starting point is 00:53:26 and it's one person who comes on with like long hair like some dude long hair they're like yeah yeah yeah thanks granola man doctor who like gave him the clean bill of dr ronnie yeah like whatever but that's like you know and i think that's where people are slow like you see that ball a little bit i think again that's where i'm like fuck maybe that's as long as we can kind of keep more people moving in that direction then maybe we can figure something out but i do think people are also seeing it's like if you pay attention to what's happening rather than what people are saying you pretty much start to pick up on that and again i think this is all Reagan's fault.
Starting point is 00:54:05 I blame Ronald Reagan for fucking everything, but yeah, they got rid of all the social services. They took all the safety nets out of American life and, and it, it broke America. And so. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Yeah. And then they blamed all the resulting destruction on the left somehow. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's because we lit a cop car on fire one time. Yeah. Yeah left somehow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's because we lit a cop crown fire one time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, because they've made like the
Starting point is 00:54:31 empathy and the acknowledgement of people's humanity like that is on like the left. They've weaponized that to say, there are these freaks who just want to give everything away to everyone. And I think what really like the messaging is, it's just that all people deserve a base level of fucking care and
Starting point is 00:54:52 support. That's what it is. We just need to like the next thing that we have to establish as a people in this country, if ever possible, is to collectively understand, okay, this is the bare minimum that people right well that's the thing it's like that no handouts mindset you know is the problem because right it's like we need public housing for unhoused people but the people who hate homeless people also don't think homeless people should get free housing of any kind but instead like there's this thing yesterday that alyssa walker posted about how like they put these fucking rocks all over the freeway margin things that are like the last place homeless people can live right and they like
Starting point is 00:55:39 implemented this like over the overnight basically they put all these rocks all over the city so that homeless people can't camp and it's like yeah what if you took the money and fucking effort you spend on making it illegal for homeless people to be anywhere and just fucking built public housing like the solutions the workarounds are a like completely fascist and evil but be like they just don't even make any fucking sense yeah there's no well because i think that again we look at this every time right the solution is so clear every time but it involves rich people making less money so the conversation fucking ends there you say well guns fucking no don't fucking make them anymore well then they got to stop their business okay what about fucking health care can we get some free well then they gotta they gotta
Starting point is 00:56:31 stop their business or make less money okay what about fucking climate change well they got to make less money off of gas okay fuck it what about uh policing well they got if then they're gonna make less money in their salaries and the military industrial complex is also affected. So, no, we can't talk about any of these. What about building more things? Now, what if we drop a bunch of rocks on motherfuckers like what? And that's the absurdity. I feel like people need to really understand is like logically we can. Most people could be like, why don't you build some houses? Why don't you take guns away? Why don't you just build some houses? Why don't you take guns away?
Starting point is 00:57:04 Why don't you da, da, da, da, da? And realize that there is such a huge, the impediment are the members of Congress who are paid by these industries to never facilitate a conversation that leads to them making less money. Yeah, that's right. So my only hope is that more people are, my only hope, Obi-Wan coming through out of hiding where he had kept his same name. No, my only hope is that it just seems like more people are aware of this than ever before. There's no mainstream media is talking about it, but there are like places for them to communicate with one another.
Starting point is 00:57:44 It's just like something, I don't know, there seems like there is more energy than is being acknowledged. And in fact, the lack of acknowledgement for the energy on the left is probably part of the plan or part of the strategy. Oh yeah, 100%. I mean, they definitely didn't cover the LA election, which kind of went well for the leftist candidates. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:06 They just covered the San Francisco recall. Yeah. But, you know, again, just like being offline, being in real life with other people who have been organizing also just makes you be like, oh, yeah, like the world isn't horrible. Yeah. You just got to be off the internet. Right. Yeah. horrible yeah you just got to be off the internet right yeah because i honestly like because like i like you said you'll read one thing and then you read so many different opinions on one thing and
Starting point is 00:58:30 it does do your head you're like what the fuck and part of it is just that the internet will make you feel bad that is its purpose yeah and it's like it's free because you're the product and right you know keeping you engaged with like doom scrolling is how they're making money off your ass. I mean, yeah. Right now, if you're listening, Google a mutual aid group in your city and meet those people. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Go meet people who are also humans, too. That will be very... It will bring you life to know that, oh, shit, okay, okay good there's other people get involved with like other human beings you know there's a lot of great community fridge programs right now in la that popped up during the pandemic but yeah i mean again it's like it's not all bad sorry to be so i get it but that's what it is that's i think that's what we feel in this country right like we're we're we're watching our neighbors die it's so extreme I think that's what we feel in this country, right? Like we're watching our neighbors die.
Starting point is 00:59:26 It's so extreme. I think that's the thing is it's so extreme. And it is, yeah, it is more like Chile than people in America in mainstream media would like to acknowledge in that. There's a lot of fascism. And also there is a lot of energy on the left and desire to overthrow all the bullshit. And them telling us that can't happen is part of how they keep everyone in their place. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:49 All right. Well, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. Quick story about another way they're keeping us in our place, which is a new reality show. It's going to break records. Oh God.
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Starting point is 01:04:29 caught a couple uh days back but even more news netflix very focused on the uh on the bottom line on on how wall street is looking at them and they wanted another squid game headline probably presumably and so they came up got put their heads together in a boardroom. And we're like, what if Squid Game was real? And like one of them died because their head exploded. But yeah, so Netflix has greenlit Squid Game The Challenge, a reality competition series based on the hit 2021 South Korean drama. a reality competition series based on the hit 2021 South Korean drama. If you watched it, you might remember that the hit 2021 South Korean drama was a social commentary on, you know,
Starting point is 01:05:21 a world in which people are so desperate for money that they will kill and be killed in order to like win a chance at a single pot of money and it was like this is this is really depressing and like what what it's come to netflix was like yeah yeah more on that later shut the fuck up what if we what if we were like the rich guys in that room and they are yeah apparently do they do we know how it works like it's just going to be backstabbery gone wild? I feel like that's the only way you do it, because people aren't going to die, obviously. Well, are they? Are we here?
Starting point is 01:05:51 Have we finally got here? It's 456 players competing for $4.56 million, which is a reality television record in terms of prize money. Is that adjusted for inflation i'm sure that i i don't know but yeah that's like it's actually the third biggest it's actually less than the original uh who wants to be a millionaire prize but i i'm sure there will be like children's games where people are like trying oh right like playing yeah but just without the death i'm assuming but it's there there has to be like some level of like spills and like wipe out you know yeah you
Starting point is 01:06:35 kind of need to see people get wrecked like in a non-life-threatening way right we're really gonna to go all in on that but i mean look i'm just pitching myself i'm putting myself out there netflix if you need somebody to play one of the rich american guys who's in the thing and being like i love this game bring me more champagne as you've heard already my nickname is anti-union jack i have a logo which is the union jack yeah did you get that that was a joke that was a joke about the union jack yeah no i i loved it and i'm running with it that was that was uh you were you were front and center at the queen's jubilee i was with a union jack with the ghostbusters x over it and people didn't people didn't appreciate, even though I'm here for the platinum jubes.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Oh, I think my power came back. There we go. I think I made somebody happy. What games do you think? That was the queen blessing you from heaven. Yes. And we're back. And we're back. And the queen has been daved.
Starting point is 01:07:41 For those who don't remember that Kevin Klein film directed by Ivan Reitman where a man played the president who was actually, I think, in a coma? The Queen has been daved. For those who don't remember that Kevin Kline film directed by Ivan Reitman, where a man played the president who was actually, I think, in a coma? Yeah. The Queen has been daved. I love turning dave into a verb. A verb, yeah. Molly, you've been turning fuckingest. Like, dudes wanting to be the fuckingest dude, I think.
Starting point is 01:08:01 Oh, yeah. I love that turn of phrase. I use it a lot when i'm watching my favorite television show the offer about the making of the godfather right yeah in which there's a guy named al ready who's the producer and he's the fuckingest guy on that show which means robert evans is kind of like a beta cuck to him on the show right but it's produced by the guy who's produced by already so he can It's produced by already. Right. So he can't be outfucked by Robert Evans.
Starting point is 01:08:28 Right, right, right. It's their own show. No, no, no. What if the kid didn't stay in the picture? That's right. What if the kid... Got the fuck out of it, actually. Kind of a dork, actually. I mean...
Starting point is 01:08:38 What if the kid's a fucking loser, really, if you think about it? I mean, that's what's funny. It's like it's sort of maybe it's like accidentally accurate by portrayinging robert evans as kind of a dork which he for sure was right and for people that's a film producer not the podcast not the podcaster although he plays the producer on my show yeah which is apropos um i would say like okay but back to the squid games thing do you think they will do some of like will they do the and like but it's like paintballs and shit yeah uh probably paintballs maybe it'll just be like a like laser dot or something where they're just like counted out presumably they won't be like yeah presumably they won't be shot i think they will definitely sleep in the uh giant barracks like oh yeah
Starting point is 01:09:25 because it's a reality show yeah it's a reality show i think tug of war will be heavily involved and they will probably to to your point like the way that like reality show competitions seem to be going is like uh using special effects to make it seem as though the loser has been killed like isn't that a thing that happens on that one show where they're like uh you got the answer wrong and then you just like disappear down a dark hole yeah right right right oh i feel like wasn't in the floor is lava like if you fell on the floor like they kind of pretended it was actually lava that was a that was a netflix innovation too is that you would fall in the lava and then they would cut out the part where you popped back out and you would just like swim off camera, I guess.
Starting point is 01:10:15 Yeah. So they're already there. um that these desperate people who are you know just debasing themselves to compete for this big sum of money are actually dying in the process like that that was their takeaway from i bet do you think they'll produce it to the point like because they're you know i'm sure like the first game will like probably get rid of 80 of the cast right because it's like there's no way you can facilitate fucking that many people for what is bad storytelling yeah yeah but then they like they set it up so like there are dudes who like went to high school together but never talked to each other and they're like whoa brett you're here i thought you were doing well he's like i had way too much money in crypto man
Starting point is 01:10:58 i'm back to square one i'm here at the squid game like you but brett you're my financial advisor yeah man about that you're fucked uh you're upside down on a bunch of ether man yeah squid game hit us up we can write the desperate people storylines for you we're not from the headlines all right well we'll this is going to be an ongoing story um we will keep you up to date. Molly, it has been, as always, a true pleasure having you on TVZ. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? You can find me on Twitter at Molly Lambert and on Instagram at Molly underscore Lambert. And that's it. And check out Heidi World, the Heidi Feist story
Starting point is 01:11:46 and the Secret History of LA now fully out on all podcast platforms forever. Yeah, yeah. Forever. Jack and Miles are both in it. Amazing work. I mean, it's a very
Starting point is 01:11:59 storied group of people lending their voices and I'm honored to be one of the lowly names on that list. Well, Miles plays James Conn. So. You did give me the option to pick what I wanted. I said, I,
Starting point is 01:12:13 Sonny was one of my favorite characters in the Godfather. It was perfect. I was so happy. Jimmy Conn, who has been mentioned as potentially, you know, involved in that stuff, which was a revolution, revelation to me before, you know, I didn't know Jimmy Conn was involved.
Starting point is 01:12:31 You could tell from Scott Conn's cockiness what was going on in that house. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? I already talked about the Red Pandas at length, which is definitely the number one thing that I enjoy. There you go. Oh, give him that handle one more time. It is Red Panda every hour at Red Panda every HR, abbreviated hour. But I don't know. I enjoyed everybody's jokes about the Lady Gaga, Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie yesterday also.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Yeah. We talked about that on the Trends episode yesterday. So, future. I like the jokes. I like the jokes. My favorite, actually, my favorite was the one that was a still of Lady Gaga from House of Gucci. And it just said, we live in a society in Italian. Che viviamo una societia. That was my favorite i love it miles where can people find you what's the tweet you've been
Starting point is 01:13:31 enjoying uh you can find me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray uh also check out the basketball podcast miles and jack got mad boosties and uh if you like 90 day fiance check me out on 420 day fiance um let's see some tweets that i like oh it's from sarah haji at kind of haji hagi tweeted guys i feel so so sick with this revelation that top gun is military propaganda i thought this was all made up. I didn't know these planes existed IRL. It's stupid, but I just... I love the takes of everybody being like, it's propaganda. Yeah, it's propaganda.
Starting point is 01:14:13 You mean me? You mean me? I'm talking shit, bro. You said you love it. I did love it. We love a good piece of propaganda. Yeah, it's good. Propaganda can be good, too.
Starting point is 01:14:23 It's just very damaging. Let's good. Propaganda can be good, too. It's just very damaging. Let's see. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A tweet I've been enjoying from Tom Hanks' Innocent tweeted, Jurassic Park movies are unrealistic because none of the
Starting point is 01:14:40 white people in them try to kiss dinosaurs on the mouth. And let's think an accurate observation. white people and them try to kiss dinosaurs on the mouth. That's an accurate observation. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a
Starting point is 01:14:55 Facebook fan page and website, DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy oh man uh this is a song which also i just want to really direct people towards the music video too it's a new pharrell track with tyler the creator and 21 savage it's called cash in cash out and it the really it's the video that's really the beat
Starting point is 01:15:25 is dope because it sounds like like if the neptunes like just remembered who they are i don't know if chad hugo actually helped produce this it might just be pharrell um but the video was really dope they like 3d printed little miniatures of themselves because they shot this during the pandemic and they tried to find a way to do a music video without being together. And these French animators created like a 3D printed Zoetrope machine to animate the video and use like CGI to put it all together.
Starting point is 01:15:54 And it's kind of fucking wild. So this is, you know, check out Cash In, Cash Out, Pharrell, Tyler, 21. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning. But we're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye.
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