The Daily Zeitgeist - Star Wars Doesn’t Translate, Lindsey Graham = Trump Whisperer 1.18.18

Episode Date: January 19, 2018

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And I'm joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. That's right. It's your boy, Gray Z. Thank you to Carl Slate for that, a.k.a. Did you just come up with Jack C. Capp confections? Confections. Confections yourself? I did, yeah. I gave myself credit. Yeah, I saw you. That's courtesy of at Jack underscore O'Brien. Wow.

Yeah, and we are thrilled to have in our third seat today, he is a hilarious comedian, and he is the co-creator and star of the new Comedy Central show, Corporate. Please welcome Jake Weissman. Hey. Oh, hey, guys. Hey, Jake. Jake Seacat of Confessions.

Nice. I was also named after a Jack, so I think of you as a father. Were you really named after a Jack? It was someone I never met. It was my dad's dad, but it doesn't matter. I still look at you that way. Yeah, perfect. I appreciate that, and that is appropriate. Jake, what's something from your search history

that is revealing about who you are as a human being? Well, this is sad, and I didn't know if I wanted to admit it, but literally my own name, and that's just because That's the most honest answer we've ever received. Just because I have the show came out, and I have been obsessively checking reviews, which is exactly what you shouldn't do for your mental health. You definitely shouldn't admit to it because it's so narcissistic, but everyone would and everyone does.

So it's just Jake Weissman refresh, Jake Weissman refresh, Jake Weissman refresh. And the only interesting really thing about it is that there's another there's's a few other Jake Weissman's and I'm crushing them right now. And I feel like I know that other Jake Weissman's are like, fuck that guy. You're taunting them today? I'm not taunting them. Today's a big day. I'm not taunting them, but I want to. Do you have, you have the Jake Weissman handle, right?

No, I have Weissman Jake. So, and it's because another Jake Weissman got it, but that's okay. I mean, that's fine. I think sometimes they get tagged and stuff that's not them, and they're very aware that I'm winning. Yes. I feel like you need to win two things in life. One is be the coolest of your name. And second, your high school reunion.

So I don't know about high school reunion. I'm working on it, but I'm definitely winning Jake Weissman right now. I'm losing both of those. There's a great play director named Jack O'Brien. I was on an NPR show and the NPR host was like, oh, are you Jack's assistant? I was like, oh, no, I am Jack. He was like, oh, I thought you were Jack O'Brien, the theater director. And was like visibly disappointed. For me, there's a club promoter named Miles Gray who like went to college with one of my high school friends. And he has the handle.

So I had to come up with a clever one. And then there's another guy who befriended me on Facebook who lives in Australia. He's like this middle-aged dude. And like his photos are one is a baby drinking a beer, which I think is like his own kid. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And another is him breastfeeding a wallaby. Nice. So I don't know.

It's a push for me. Okay. Very Australian. Born to be a father. Yeah. You are losing that. Giving life to so many things. Jake, what's something you think is overrated?

Three billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri. The film that won Best Picture at the Golden Globes. I think it is a trash film. I think anyone who likes it is under a spell akin to being a Scientologist. I think it's a terrible, racist, sexist, unfunny, not good at all movie and that everyone is wrong and they are sheep who like the movie. You caused a bit of controversy, didn't you? I did. My tweets about it got onto the Mom moments tab on twitter and i got a lot of people being like

i'm not a sheep and i like the movie i'm a human um look it's me it's a picture of me holding a paper i have all the parts a human has i don't have furry skin uh yeah i just think it's a really bad movie and um in the in the movie watching it, 15 minutes in, I almost walked out because it was so stupid and so pandering. But then I saw a lot of people clapping after a few speeches, and I was so upset. I was like, uh-oh, this is going to be something. People think this is good, and I'm the only one in the world who knows. Because I don't know how you guys feel about movies, but any movie I think is good is good and i'm the only one in the world who knows because i don't know how you guys feel about movies but any movie i think is good is good and any movie i don't think is good isn't

and that's just the rule you know what i mean like that's reality yeah it's called reality so that's how i feel about that movie and i just it's one of those movies like crash and crash is obviously a garbage film and dumpster fire history has been on our side. And Brokeback Mountain was up for Best Picture that year. It obviously should have won. And this year, it has a chance – Three Billboards has a chance to be the new Crash. I'm just trying to warn as many people to not be on the wrong side of history because how embarrassing is it to be like, yeah, I actually liked Crash. And I watched it again and it was as if a toddler made it. A Scientologist toddler.

A former Scientologist. Yeah, exactly. So that's how I'm toddler made it. A Scientologist toddler. A former Scientologist. Yeah, exactly. So that's how I'm feeling about it. I haven't seen it because, precisely for this reason, because I remember, like, initially, my mom's in the HFPA, and she was like...

What is that? The Hollywood Foreign Press, who votes in the Golden Globes. Oh, my God. Yeah, and she's an older woman, which is kind of indicative of what that group of voters is, right? Oh, yeah.

And at first, everyone was like, oh, this movie's great, this movie's great. And then I heard from a lot of other people, like this movie is not fucking good so it was so split that i was like i don't i i sort of have been hesitating but i think it has an unfair advantage in the golden globes because it's very specifically a foreign person's view of what america's like that's like an outsider like very unsubtle critique of like you know how america works and so i i can see how people who aren't from this country who are you know what's the elevator pitch for this because i haven't seen i just know it's about like a racist cop uh yeah is that kind of the gist sort of it's It's not about anything. I mean, that's the problem is it thinks it's saying these incredible things about race and life in America and redemption and revenge.

And it's not about anything. It's just some guy who wants to be Quentin Tarantino but can't pull it off. Not even that Tarantino can pull off Tarantino anymore. No. And everyone goes, have you seen In Bruges? But I've seen Seven Psychopaths and it's pure garbage. Psychopaths is not good. It's not good at all but everyone's like see in bruges but i shouldn't have to see

another movie of his to like anything to judge this film and also it's just good uh i've heard that but i'm now worried i have a feeling people are going to go back to in bruges and be like okay i was wrong and i'm sorry there's gonna be a lot of in Bruges apologies. Yeah. Well, I'm angry. But now I'm going to have to watch it based off that fired up, you know. I have liked stuff that Martin McDonagh has made in the past. Did you like this movie? I didn't hate it as much as you did. But I see where you're coming from for sure. Thank you, Jack.

See, puffing up his chest at you. What's something that's underrated? A bunch of things are underrated. I think veggie grill is underrated. Here's why I think veggie grill is underrated. Because it's a vegetarian place. There's this hack sort of response to vegetarians in society. It's like, oh, you don't like meat?

Oh, were you better than me? Your shoes are leather. Okay. And it's like, like okay first of all shut up i'm trying the best i can um and most vegetarian places especially in la are mostly just populated by white people and just very annoying white people on the east side of la and it's like tempeh soy you know what i mean but veggie grill is multicultural and there's all sorts of uh there's every race is in there and all sorts of people and they're there for a vegetarian cause.

And I think that's good. Like I think that's cool. It's like people don't – it's the only vegetarian place I've ever seen that isn't like just homogenous. And I think that that's like a really wonderful thing. That's very true because it's accessible, right? Because like places like Sage or the kinds of places you're talking about on the east side which are like – you can't go in there and get fed for like $10. It's sort of – it's not easily accessible. Yeah, and it's funny because one of the times I went to Veggie Grill, I was surprised at how many young kids, like Latino or black kids were in there.

And I was like, what the fuck? Yeah. I was like, damn, because again, all of my experiences with vegetarian restaurants have been sort of these more hipstery, vegan places. That's a really good point. with vegetarian restaurants have been sort of these more hipstery, white, white, white in places. It's like, if people are like thinking Buffalo cauliflower is cool, I think one day we might be able to have a good America. Like, I just think that that's like a really, like we can be a little,

we have to make being humanist or being like good. Um, cool. And I think veggie grill is doing a pretty good job. It doesn't make you a wimp or whatever. Are you vegetarian or vegan? I'm pescatarian. Okay.

There you go. I'm not an activist or anything. I think it's a good thing to do if you can do it. Right. Uh, but I, I don't really you a wimp or whatever. Are you vegetarian or vegan? I'm pescatarian. Okay, there you go. I'm not an activist or anything. I think it's a good thing to do if you can do it. Right. But I don't really give a shit. But Veggie Grill always makes me feel good about being an American. I feel like America has a chance when I'm there. And the Buffalo Bomber is a really good sandwich.

I love the Buffalo Bomber. I also really like your movie pick here. That is one of mine as well, Notting Hill. Okay, so Notting i know it's underrated here's why i'm not gonna deny that it's stupid as fuck okay uh and i have watched it 3 000 times and i recently watched it again in an airplane it's it's cheesy it's dumb but there's a line in it that is very first of all i just love it and it. And it's a, it's a romantic story. I really like it.

I like how it humanizes a famous person. There's a line, there's a scene where all the people are going over why their life has been the worst. And, and Julia Roberts plays basically Julia Roberts in the movie. And she, and everyone else is a kind of a normal person.

And they're always talking about how bad their life was. And then she's like, wait, don't I get a chance to talk about how bad my life is? They're like, yeah, right, as if your life has been bad. And then she has this speech about like, well, I've been on a diet since I was 19. Every boyfriend has treated me bad. Someone abused me.

Like I'm in the public eye. Every time I get my heart broken, the press makes fun of it. And I'm like, oh, my God, actors are people. And I think that's like a beautiful thing to remember is that actors are people even though they aren't i think it's like a nice piece of movie magic and i don't care that it's kind of a dumb movie and it's so white and annoying but when she goes just remember i'm just a girl standing in front of a boy asking uh him to love her it gets me every time and she's a great actress. Hugh Grant is charming. And also...

Pete Grant. Pete Grant. Before the Divine debacle. Was this before or after Nine Months? It was before. Before Nine Months. I believe it was before. Okay.

But he was so charming. And what's interesting about the movie is it's purposely trying to not be that funny so it can still be accessible. Like, the jokes they have in the movie aren't very good but i kind of liked it because it's like it's trying to appeal to everyone and i admire that yeah it's probably my favorite uh like straightforward romantic so straightforward there's crappy music but there's something about it i can't get away from it it's like it's like an x i keep getting back with yeah Yeah. All right. Let's get into format, guys.

We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there changing the world, the global shared consciousness right now, today, at the moment that we record. And we like to open up by asking our guest, what is a myth? What's something that the global shared consciousness believes that you know to be bullshit? Meditation does not work. Now, I know that it does. I know that it does. I know that it does. But I have a very – and I understand I am a dark person.

But anytime I meditate – my ex-girlfriend used to get me to meditate. She's like, you need to calm down. So we're going to meditate. So I meditate. And every time I meditated, I'd be really, really focused and have complete confidence that I knew the one truth, which is that I'm the worst person alive. It was able to block out everything except for the negativity. So it calmed everything down. But then I was only left with terrible thoughts.

I know I'm the only one who will believe this. But meditation, it has too much going for it that I don't trust it. It's like one of those comedians who always plays like a nice person and then you find out they're a monster later and they were just a sociopath. That's what meditation is. What about all these like places that are opening up now? They're like meditation spas. That's why you don't trust it. That's where I'm like, it's like Pinkberry.

Yeah, it's bullshit. Right. Pinkberry just gave you diarrhea. It wasn't even that good, but you have to say it's good. And it's like getting in touch with yourself. It's like, no, I don it's bullshit. Right. Pinkberry just gave you diarrhea. It wasn't even that good. But you have to say it's good. And it's like getting in touch with yourself. It's like, no, I don't want to get in touch with myself. And didn't the owner beat up a homeless guy?

Of Pinkberry? Yeah. Oh, really? Back in the day. Because he meditated. That's how much zen it'll get. You're right. Unconscious, I am better than them.

And then he just goes out and beats up a homeless guy. Let me just make sure so I'm not slandering the owner. Yeah, let's slander him. Yep, nope, yep. Pinkberry co-founder, young Lee, jailed after beating man with tire iron. Wow, cool. It's weird. Yeah, the tire iron, I always forget that's available to me as a weapon.

And some people just remember that. Is it just in the car, in the boot of your car? I don't know. A tire iron? I think tire irons are just – That makes sense. You're supposed to keep them around. Yeah, because it's always part of that tire replacement kit with your little jack, and usually the tire iron works as the crank for the jack.

Anyway, look, I've had to change a lot of tires. Yeah. I get all my opinions from other people. people and uh i read a good op-ed in the new york times about how like mindful this whole mindfulness wave is just more of this generation of people just going inward rather than like interacting with the world around them and it's a dangerous thing and i stopped meditating after i read that just everything gets corporatized immediately that's why i don't trust it it's like this is a new fad but life isn't getting any better like it's like it's it's like, this is a new fad, but life isn't getting any better. Like, it's like, it's, it's like you're trying your best to say that life is something that it isn't. Life is a very challenging thing. No matter what, you're not going to reach enlightenment. And I, I have a huge problem with people who are like, no, I can reach enlightenment. If I do a ayahuasca every single day and meditate

seven times a day, it's like, I have a job. I don't have any time to do this stuff. Right. But also I don't want people to be happier than me. So maybe that's why I'm trying to get them to stop. I mean, I think the one benefit is people lack self-awareness. And I think that's one of the things that I don't know if it's necessarily meditation, but pursuing some kind of spiritual understanding of like yourself can help, you know, mitigate your own stress a bit. But I don't know if like necessarily like not saying anything for 90 minutes every day

and just like thinking away your problems is the thing. It's like learn how you process the world. Yeah. And then if like it creates a pattern that you react to, then now you can start altering that. But yeah, I don't know if simply just like tossing in the mindfulness app and like sitting in the dark. Right. It just seems – it's too suspect to me. It just seems – like all the people um do meditation change their hair color five times

a week and it's like this is not healthy like something something is not right here yeah i'm a judgmental person yeah i mean i've become incredibly angry since i stopped meditating but that doesn't i mean that's probably unrelated uh so let's talk about the last jedi we want to check back in with the last jedi uh was a success in the american box office um but internationally it kind of tanked it didn't do well in china yeah china specifically yeah it's it's it's like it's been pulled from a few theaters already because like they're like hey we can't even sell fucking tickets and they're projecting like it might only make like 5050 million in China, which is crazy considering like how big of a market that is for films. And a lot of experts don't like, you know, they're looking at it. They're like, it's probably because there's no sort of like the entrenched cultural legacy of like Star Wars that there is in like English speaking countries.

And also the original trilogy wasn't released in China. So people were like watching Force Awakens. They went out of curiosity because the marketing was so insane. And I think they were saying a lot of viewers at the end were confused when Luke Skywalker shows up. And they're just like, who the fuck is this guy? And I think just for them, they're like, this is just a confusing movie and we don't know what's going on. So, yeah, not doing so good. It's interesting.

Yeah. So, yeah, not doing so good. It's interesting. Yeah. I mean, so this is a broader trend that now people have to, like studios have to take into account how things are going to play in other countries. For example, Fate of the Furious, which was, you know, the eighth Fast and the Furious movie, did very well in America, made $226 million in America. It made $392 million in China. So that's an example of a sequel movie that is doing something right when it comes to the Chinese audience and sort of capturing that Chinese zeitgeist.

But yeah, and I can kind of see how that would happen with Last Jedi. Did you see Last Jedi, Jake? I've never seen any Star Wars. That's fine. I have only seen the first 30 minutes of Episode 4, I guess it is now. It became Episode 4, and I was bored and turned it off, and now I just don't get to have a lot of conversations. I can tell you immediately went inward, and I was like,

I saw you sensing it. Is this dude, like, is he a spy? Or does he hate Chinese people? Or is he one of those people who's like, oh, shit, I don't know what the fuck – No, I've never seen it. I don't have anything against it. I have a feeling – I think it's too late for me to get into because I feel like it doesn't have that childhood wonder for me. I've seen cooler special effects now.

I do think obviously – I mean this is my big issue with anyone is anyone who makes Star Wars a personality, you're sad. You should probably meditate. They do meditate. They do meditate. But I don't – what I was thinking about was movies are really complicated. If you have to make it for a giant audience, like that kind of movie, to relate to everyone, that's not possible. Yeah, exactly. You can't do that.

Everyone is so different. Like, working in TV, what is so wonderful is there's so many TV shows. All you need is a niche audience. You can be very specific. You just have to keep those people interested. But for movies, they go so far and so wide, there's no way everyone can like it. If everyone likes it, it probably sucks. And so I think that that's incredibly frustrating.

Yeah. Because then I was thinking of, like, the writers getting notes about, like, you gotta make it a little more Chinese. You know what I mean? Right, right. And that's just like, what are we talking about here? Yeah. It's, it's, yeah. Yeah.

And, I mean, Last Jedi leans heavily on, you know, plot from the earlier movies. But, I mean, so do all sequels. And other sequels have done way better i yeah i just wonder if there's like some cultural thing some cultural aspect about it because it's it's also got like this whole religious metaphor thing that seems very specific i don't know i just feel like if you look at fast and furious you could you could have never seen a fast and furious movie and go see fate of the furious and and be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Like you'd be fucking blown away because it's so – it just hangs on all the spectacle of it.

Whereas with Star Wars, yeah, if you don't have any background information, you're going to be like, yo, this movie is fucking whack. Like I don't know who the fuck this person is. I don't know what the fuck they're talking about. It requires you to have a little bit more information going into it, and I think that could be it as well. I'll tell you what actually really translates in China, Notting Hill. Because the message of love, even when it's impossible, is that really relates to any country. And as I Google highest grossing films in China, Notting Hill. It's only Notting Hill for the first 10 spots.

Exactly. Because they had so much money it spilled over. Yeah. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We will be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months.

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So, yeah, it's like their equivalent of Obamacare going live and being like, now you can have health care. It was underwhelming a little bit. I'm surprised because it was sort of like stories that just had been retracted or edited for like inaccuracies. I thought it was going to be like, and this motherfucker is the worst and blah blah blah it was kind of like okay well yeah it was just uh a handful of stories that uh media outlets got wrong and admitted they got wrong about the trump administration i've reached a a delirium about trump to where it's so horrible that i actually love it now like i like i can't it's like my body is rejecting more and turning it into laughs. Like I literally – I was sitting at Jit Lada the other day, which is a nice restaurant. Great time to kill.

And I started reading an article about him in North Korea and the leaders calling each other like fat and stupid. And the leaders calling each other like fat and stupid. And I started crying from laughter that this is our reality and the inevitability of it in America that it would reach this point. And I can't take it seriously because the thing is every generation is narcissistic and thinks that their generation will be the one that ends the world. And I don't think that's going to happen with us. We are definitely close and we definitely could. I just don't think it's going to happen, but it is hilarious. The things we talk about every day and the way this super insane narcissist has taken over all of our lives, he's really good at what he does. And we can't do anything about it. There's nothing to do because we become so bipartisan and nobody cares

about people. Everyone wants to get rich. And it's so horrible that it's the funniest joke of all time. I truly, I cannot get to a real place. So you think your existential dread has just sort of like morphed into just like, I'm just going to laugh myself crazy. What else is there to do? I mean, this is the worst person ever made is in charge of the world. How is that not funny? Yeah. I mean, I think because we have to like read about it every day i don't i i've i've noticed that i in the beginning i just fucking ball my fists up what the fuck is going on and now i'm just like well look i have to just observe what is happening in the world i'm trying to be removed from it and also optimistic that like really the

only thing that can try and curb this is like the midterm elections and like begin to shift Congress. But I think the system is broken and that's a whole other show that we can get into. It is broken. And what's funny, it's weird because I wanted Hillary to win but even if Hillary won, it still would have been a broken system. No question about it. So it's sort of like maybe it's good that we're all getting aware how broken it is. But it's also like oh man we're just fucked yeah really fuck go follow your dreams you know might as well yeah

and i don't know that i mean i think narcissism and the fact that we elected our biggest narcissists at a point where i think our culture is maybe the most narcissistic it's ever been with, you know, that social media was like built to sort of echo chamber our narcissism and like make narcissism the main value of like a culture. And then we elected our biggest narcissist. But I don't feel like that's a self-correcting thing where we're going to be like, oh, so it's kind of our fault for valuing the stuff that he's good at. I think it's just we're gonna look at the

institutions and be like they're they're the ones that broke not not us yeah yeah it's like ex machina we built the robot that will destroy us right um the other spoiler uh the other thing that uh the other place i've been running into Trump supporters other than in my Twitter mentions is New York Times letters to the editor. They just withheld their opinion pieces for a whole day and gave us letters from Trump supporters who are happy with the way the first year of his administration went. And reading the first one was somewhat enlightening. I was like, okay, I can see where that one's coming from. And then it was like reading the same letter over and over again.

They all had the same four points, which I guess is maybe a result of there being four possible ways to view the past year positively. But if you think about like the RNC or the White House, like these are the exact same hooks that they're trying to hang their hat on. So when you're getting that, you're getting just sort of inundated with that message from conservative media, then I guess it's no surprise that that's what they talk about.

So it's the economy, ISIS. I mean, that's basically it, right? It's more like defeated ISIS or the taxes. Yeah, right. Tax cuts, which is the't reverse course or change anything about how the US military was attacking ISIS. They just kind of continued and the result of the bombardment was that ISIS lost a lot of their land. But good things happened under them. Yeah, that did happen. So I can't really fault him for that. But also then I guess the other thing too is they also point to all the court nominations.

Like, oh, we have people like Neil Gorsuch in the Supreme Court and these other district court appointees. Yeah. I mean those are things that happen. But like I have a feeling that over time you're going to look back at some of these appointees and be like, oh, these are right. These are not good. Well, yeah, they were describing the appointees as strong judicial appointees, which is crazy because they saw some of those nominees unanimously ranked by bipartisan commissions as like the least qualified nominees of all time. as like the least qualified nominees of all time. I do think it's important to just try to take the positives about what Trump is doing,

not in anything he's doing, but how he's doing it. It's like if you want to accomplish something, just first of all, be rich, but also keep saying that what you're doing is good, no matter if people are like, no, it's obviously not. No, it is. I'm great. Someone will believe you because people are afraid to be leaders. And if you say you're a leader, eventually they're going to let you run something.

And if you want to – because I think what's interesting about what's going on right now is like we want to live in this socialist utopia, but we don't and we never will because people are people. And so – and there's just this like complete sort of inaccuracy to the idea that people even want equality. People don't. They're not taught well enough. There's too many competing industries of thought and capitalism is too rugged, I think, for that ever to be that great. And I think right now he's like, listen, you have to go grab power. I'm doing it illegally. It works. And I think it should just inspire you to go out and go after stuff.

And that's a terrible opinion, but I think it's right. Great caveat at that. But not all the letters were totally like sunshine and rainbows. I mean, I think they specifically focused on Trump supporters who were happy with his first year. on Trump supporters who were happy with his first year. And then they are going to or have already published some from people who are less thrilled about how things have gone, people who voted for him. And then we also saw, you know, in some town halls that we talked about on yesterday's show, in counties that voted that Trump won by 35 percent.

You know, the people at the town halls were pretty concerned, not too pleased with how things were going. And another, you know, kind of going with the economy thing, there's a big news story that Apple and Trump have sort of won the day with because of the tax reform. Apple is now going to bring all this money that they were hiding from Americans in offshore accounts, bringing it back. And, you know, America is going to get billions of dollars in spending. Billions and billions. Billions and billions of dollars in spending. Billions and billions. Billions and billions of dollars in spending.

I think the number that they keep quoting is, what, $350 billion. Apple has pledged to spend over the next five years, which sounds – That's a good amount of money. Yeah, that sounds like a lot of money. Which sounds – That's a good amount of money. Yeah, that sounds like a lot of money. But if you look at what they were on course to spend before any of the tax cuts happened, it would have been $275 billion. So it's not – we're talking about an incremental $75 billion.

Still good. But yeah, I mean it's like focusing on a very small part of the picture. Uh, still, I don't know. I guess, I guess it's good that they're bringing the money back. I mean, I don't know. It seems like, yeah. Like what, what are we, that's the problem. The problem with Trump talking about fake news is that now I'm like, is news fake?

Not the news he's talking about but like what what is even anyone talking about right it seems like every reporter has a spin even this which just seems like a fact it's like i don't know i don't know what we're talking about like okay it's going to be spent in this country because the thing is like 350 billion dollars sounds like a lot of money but is it you know like i don't know will that help anyone who is that helping i have no idea well that's what economists are saying is like yeah sure you can say that but even economists who are like experts in this like that it's hard to say that's going to have any like tangible effect on the day-to-day lives it's just a number right like but they can say a number

and it sounds big but you're like but what does that actually mean? Right. I have no idea what that means. Right. And that money is like one part of the picture. And then if you look over at a different place, it's adding, you know, billions and billions of dollars to the deficit, which I know even less what that means. Like, I know that that means that the government is spending money that they don't have. But what's going to happen? What's the eventual time when that comes due? And how are we going to pay for it if it ever does come due? We're just going to be like the dude who goes to the restaurant with no cash and the check comes. And then you go, I didn't bring enough money. Can I wash the dishes?

Yeah, that's how Miles handles most of our lunches. I do. I'm always like, I got this, guys. Y'all go outside and let me do my cry thing. and usually has in the past, is once your deficit becomes too big and you have to start paying it back, then they start taking away entitlements. And entitlements are just the government helping poor people for the most part. No, they're enabling lazy assholes, man. Even the word entitlement, it's just so upsetting.

The fact that we use that. It's like, oh, you think you're entitled to live like a basic human would um or just um the way that they call the way trump calls um rich black people they need to be grateful right it's very similar it's like you're lucky we're giving you anything yeah you feel entitled to this this was our country we were pilgrims you weren't you know it's so weird and coded and not even coded it's just straight up entitlement entitlement it sounds like a father chastising a child you know for wanting their allowance it really does um so elsewhere in washington uh there might be a government shutdown yeah and this is all tied up in this is sort of how people interact with Trump.

So one of the big details is immigration that evolved Trump's thinking on the border wall. And he probably did. And he probably did. And also talked about how it was his idea to give DACA like the six months to allow Congress to fix it rather than just like saying DAC is over like ice is coming for you motherfuckers uh and kind of happening sadly right so he's taking credit for that and this is like textbook how not to deal with trump like for whatever reason the people who work for trump have not learned that you don't ever ever take credit credit for, you know, telling him what to do, because then he immediately reacts badly. And our engineer and producer Nick Stumpf kind of put together an outline of just how this has worked with regards to DACA. So in September, Trump has this dinner with Chuck and Nancy that's supposedly very cordial. And they outlinerip walk out of the office and are just like celebrating for the cameras.

And Trump is like, fuck that. The deal's off. I didn't agree to anything. Then more recently, Dianne Feinstein like owns Trump in this January 9th meeting in front of the press, gets him to agree to a clean DACA bill. January 10th, the media sort of crowed and made fun of him. And then January 11th, Trump is just fully dug in on this like hard line garbage position where, you know, he starts talking about shithole countries. He starts talking about shithole countries. And now we have John Kelly sort of taking a victory lap about how he influenced Trump on immigration issues and says the six-month DACA extension was something he ordered. And on the wall, he says, quote, certain things are said during the campaign that are uninformed.

Yeah. So that shit is – like he's not going to be happy about that and that's and we're already seeing that trump has like is basically shit canning this bill that was going to sort of extend things and uh you know avoid a government shutdown right like there wasn't there some sort of bill to extend things moving through? Well, it seemed like Dick Durbin and Lindsey Graham had come to like a bipartisan solution to things. And that's when like shit just started falling apart. And like it's become a moving target to even know what Trump wants anymore.

Right. Like how to solve this. Like do we avoid the shutdown with just like a limited spending bill, but also add chip funding to get Democrats on board? The problem is like chip funding for the child health insurance program. So yeah, basically the, I think in October, the Republicans just like, we just let chip funding lapse. So there are a lot of kids who rely on the government for health insurance. Like these funds are drying up rapidly and now there'll be very vulnerable children who don't have access to health care that they need.

Right. And this seems like a very easy thing to agree on. It's like we want, you know, poor kids to be able to have insurance or access to health care. But it's become like this bargaining tool. And now like it's become this a game of chicken between the Republicans and Democrats of like who's going to blink and let the government shut down or not pass it, you know, avoid a government shutdown. And it's ultimately looks like the Democrats are digging in. They're like, look, you have the Senate, you have the house and you have

the white house. So don't tell us we're obstructing it because, you know, this is clearly, you have a ton of infighting on your side of things that you haven't sorted out. And we're here trying to say, like, we want, you know, we want chip, we want of things that you haven't sorted out. And we're here trying to say like we want chip funding paid in full and we also want a clean DREAM Act. So we don't want kids to die and we want people who have lived most of their life in America to not be deported to countries. Yeah, and people who are contributing to the country too. And I think it's crazy too because now they're trying to act like these kids aren't worthwhile people contributing to the country, too. And I think it's crazy, too, because now, you know, they're trying to act like these kids aren't, you know, worthwhile people contributing to American society. That's completely false. Right.

But because Trump feels like people are not giving him his proper respect, he's kind of stopped stopped that bill from going through and is basically gumming up the works. But also, it's no surprise that after John Kelly is like, I evolved the president's like piece or his position on it that this morning he's like, ah, no, my vision of the border was never changed or evolved. So you should have known, but I would love to live with that kind of blind self-confidence.

I mean, that's all, all these stories come back to the same thing for me. It's like, he can just say something and then later say that I didn't say that thing. I always said this thing. And enough people believe him. And it's like, it's just, that's what I'm, you have to take the positives out of horrible situations.

And all I'm doing is learning how to be. And I wish, I hope I maintain being a good person. But it's nice to know that if I'm a bad person who consistently lies, it doesn't matter. Right. It's a good takeaway. It's really good. I mean, it would be fun. Like, the evil part of me, just think of, like, if the stakes weren't so high, like,

the kind of mind games you'd play with Trump to get him to do stuff you wanted and just, like, fuck with other people. Like, dude, watch how I'm going to get this shit done. And just go in there and be like, dude, that was such a good idea, man. Right. And then get him to, like, declare it. It's all very basic stuff. Like, how you deal with the difficult bosses, You get them to think that a good idea was their idea, and you compliment the shit out of them about having come up with that idea.

Corporate's actually really good at just portraying how bullshit corporate culture works and how bosses will take credit for everything. And how did you guys get into – I'm sure you've been asked this a million times, and I think I saw you ask this on the Seth Meyers show, but like, how did you guys like sort of get into that mind frame of, of just asshole corporate leadership? Well, Matt, who's in the show with me had worked a few corporate jobs but i've just worked jobs all jobs are the same human beings aren't that complex you know you kind of see it everywhere yeah shit rolls downhill everyone's terrified and then also when we were writing the show we called people from amazon and google we had some friends of friends who

worked there and we asked them what it was like and they're like no it's everything you suspect uh it's just a nightmare. It's a nightmare. Everyone's out. Everyone's scared, acting out of fear and they're trained to be – they're like cult members. I feel like every corporation is a cult and so then they become monsters and hurt the new initiated cult members and whip them into existence. So yeah, it's just – it's more just human nature I think. into existence uh so yeah it's just it's more just human nature i think right which is why i want to live in a socialist paradise but we like we can't because we live in this capitalist nightmare that is just like it truly benefits the most evil people most of the time right

trump's personality defects are like the konami code for capitalism if i. Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right. If I didn't, if I felt less empathy, I would be rich. And that's so sad. Right. Because like rich is what's rewarded in today's society. So you're prized for your lack of empathy. And that's a good joke, except that it's

real. Right. Do you have any idea how popular this podcast would be if we were like men's rights activists? Oh my God. Yeah. The dude toxic masculinity. Yeah. Toxic masculinity.

Like, I don't see the fucking problem with all this fucking, this me too shit, man. It's like fucking relax. Yeah. What about me too? Yeah.

This is kind of a great insight into how the people around Trump are sort of learning about how to deal with him. Lindsey Graham was asked if Trump was racist and his response was pretty telling. I think I think we have the clip of that. Why don't you ask me, is he a racist? That was my next question. OK, why don't you ask me, is he a racist? That was my next question. Okay, why don't you ask me? Do you think that he is a racist? Absolutely not. Let me tell you why.

You could be dark as charcoal and lily white. It doesn't matter as long as you're nice to him. You could be the Pope and criticize him. It doesn't matter. He'll go after the Pope. You could be Putin and say nice things and he'll like you. Here's what I found. He's a street fighter. It's not the color of your skin that matters. It's not the content of your character. It's whether or not you show him respect and like him. And if he feels like you're

off script, you don't like him, he punches back. And as president of the United States, the only advice I can give you is that the street fight's over. He mentioned, he goes, he's such a bad person. Lindsey Graham's a bad person because he's like pretending to be kind of liberal, but he's really a deeply conservative person. I know. It's so weird when he says woke shit. You're like, what the fuck are you talking about, asshole? Also, why are they asking a white person if he's racist?

It's so stupid. Yeah. He's a street fighter, man. Which one do you think he is i think he's blanca yeah or zangief maybe guile actually guile makes more sense at all yeah but did he think that was a defense i don't know what it was like partially two defenses someone who fights against anyone calling him out is not racist because he fights against anyone calling him out even though most people calling him out is not racist because he fights against anyone calling him out, even though most people calling him out are not white. What are we talking about? That's the funny thing about like you don't get to say you're not racist. Like if people are calling you racist, you're racist.

That's like it has nothing to do with what you think you are. But I mean like the better version of that answer would have been like look yes he's racist but also here's the thing even if you're black he will like you if you just kiss his ass yeah so like there's a way to bypass his racism if you're just a sycophant that's a much better way to say yeah like which i think is what he was trying to say without like you know sort of like having a repulsive effect on his his base of like republican people who don't want to hear anyone in the gop call him racist so he's like no he's not but let me say this other shit that is kind of fucked up about his ego but not full you know not a full-throated being like i

think what he was saying is basically yes but i want to keep getting the kickbacks i get as a senator so no yeah like he's a piece of shit and then there was an implicit threat against the media there at the end. Like you're fucking with a president who will destroy you and like wants to destroy you. So stop saying things he doesn't like was essentially, I think, like when he was like the street fight is over and he's the president. I thought he was saying that he doesn't have to. That street fight mentality is no longer needed. Look, I'm speaking out of thes video and 80s video games.

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part of prop 64 is that it also allows anyone basically to have their past marijuana-related offenses or crimes reduced or expunged completely, which is wild because they're saying like, look, weed is legal. And I guess now that we know that, you shouldn't have to be completely punished for any kind of crimes that you committed in regards to possession, especially because a lot of people got like felony possession for weed and can't get jobs, can't get loans and things like that. So this is like a very great opportunity for, you know, society sort of change these kinds of things and allow people to kind of start over anew, especially because like African Americans in California were five times as likely to get arrested for a marijuana felony than white offenders. So these constraints disproportionately affected them. And now we're showing like, hey, this is part of the new era. We also believe that you shouldn't ruin your life because you're holding some weed.

Right. And how many people are eligible for this? I think nearly like a million people or something. It's pretty – I think it's roughly one million Californians are eligible according to the Drug Policy Alliance. There is nothing more stupid than the fact that weed was illegal. Like alcohol is legal? Like are you fucking kidding me? I think we should ban alcohol.

I don't like anyone who drinks a lot. Obviously, you shouldn't ban anything. You should let people do whatever the fuck they want and fuck up their lives and deal with anxiety the way they want. But what are we talking about here? Yeah. Like if anything, like weed just increases the economy of like Amazon downloads and like food delivery. Like it's just like – it's just good for the economy and who cares? like just the idea that drugs are illegal is just part of this puritanical myth that life has to be this utopia um or people are always like struggling to um they're struggling to accept that life is not the utopia they want it to be whether it's like socialist or religious like christian or

something like that it's just so offensive and horrible that people won't talk about what adulthood actually is, which is very painful. And we need drugs. Let's be real. Right. So, yeah, I mean, it's good to know that, you know, that people are thinking about this too, because it could have just as easily been like, hey, weed is legal and not thought

about like, well, hey, if weed is legal, what about all these people that are in jail or like have completely had their lives fucked over because they can't, they have to be like, hey, were you ever convicted of a felony in a job? And we're like, yeah. It's so stupid. It's like in Germany, like if people had felonies for being Jewish, you know what I mean? It's like, what are we talking about here? Like, of course you should expunge it.

This should never have been a crime. We made a mistake because we're scared of the truth. So this is us. Yeah. It's the government or at least the state of California making good on that. And are there law firms that are going to or funds or charities that people can look into? I don't know. We don't have that information I guess right now.

But I'm hoping somebody is like dedicating themselves to just helping people get their marijuana-related offenses reduced or expunged. Yeah. Well, I think that's sort of the next step is making sure that public defenders' offices and legal aid providers can like actually talk – tell people. It's like, hey, just so you know, like I'm looking through the records. I heard yesterday you got a felony like possession thing. You can actually petition to get this changed. Yeah, like an innocence project for people who got arrested for bullshit weed-related offenses. I think it's funny because when you go get your weed card, all the doctors are like, Dr. 420 and all that stuff.

So now there's going to be a lawyer 420 or like 420 Esquire. Right. Just everything is a chance for branding. The Weed Girl Network. The offices of Green Bud and I don't know, some other fucking... Damn, real stoner over here. Seriously, guys. All right.

And then last thing, there's this idea that I just read about that keeps coming up in my mind and is affecting how I think about things. And so I wanted to just put it out there to our audience so they can think about it too. So there's this book, The Evolution of Beauty, that I've been reading that's about how beautiful things come to be that way in nature. Darwin has this quote like every time i see the tail of a male peacock i get like sick to my stomach because i don't know because his initial theory of natural selection evolution uh didn't explain how the fuck like giant feathers came to be and like why there were like these giant like like beautifully patterned, uh, you know, fans on the back of these birds.

And, uh, the general consensus for the past, you know, 50 years has been that it's like all those things are somehow an indicator of like health. Uh, so like some sort of inherent indicator of like, for instance, the peacock's tail. So the way people were thinking about that was that because it's so big and heavy, it was sort of like a built-in handicap that would prove to female birds that, look how good I am at survival. I can get by with this huge tail. So therefore, have sex with me. And this ornithologist wrote this book that the New York Times put on their list of, like, best nonfiction books of the last.

Fake news. Yeah. Failing. Failing. Sad. Sad. where he kind of advances this theory that it's all due to this thing called runaway selection, where basically female birds have a preference. So let's say one female bird has a preference for a larger tail feather.

larger tail feather, that will become increasingly popular because she will have both male offspring with larger tail feathers and female offspring with preferences for larger tail feathers because of, you know, inherited traits. So it's almost like this sort of self-fulfilling like feedback loop where something becomes popular just because it's popular essentially and you have this like runaway sort of feedback loop that uh is the cause for all these crazy uh you know seemingly significant uh aspects of animals in natural selection. And like that idea of just popularity, like runaway popularity for the sake of popularity and just like random preferences, just becoming these huge outsized things keeps coming up in my mind, like just looking at like, for instance, Just looking at like, for instance, I talked last week about how we overread elections and laugh and point at him and people on the right like to see, you know, the elitist media get mad about him. It's just that both groups of people liked watching him for completely different reasons. And so he got more viewers on CNN. And because CNN saw that he got more viewers, they covered him more. And you there's a metaphor there for like how we tend to give, give a sort of inherent logic to things that sometimes can just be caused by,

you know, self-fulfilling popularity. Well, something that makes me think about, I don't know if this is related to what you're thinking is I just think about Renaissance paintings and how the symbol for beauty used to be for a woman is if they weighed a lot. Right. Because that was a symbol of their wealth. That means they were like healthy but that's because they had access to all the food they wanted. women are now just expected to be unreasonably thin and make no sense, look almost freakish to be considered attractive because they have access to personal trainers and liposuction. So I think we're attracted to – humans have evolved to be attracted to wealth.

And that's the way – there's a lot of subconscious things going on there with wealth. Because I think that's what's going on with Trump. It's like the reason people listen to him is he's wealthy and that's what we prize and we prize people who've gotten to the top no matter what and wealth is like what we think something is how we decide something is beautiful and worth investing time in right so i think that would be like how like there's that assumes there's like this inherent logic and some sort of inherent significance to why we like have the preferences that we do. And I think the way that this book is making me think about things is what if it's not that what if it's just that, you know,

for instance, I've heard people in the fashion industry, and this is sort of problematic, but I've heard people in the fashion industry say that skinny models have become popular because so many gay men are tastemakers in the fashion industry. And the skinnier the model, the fewer like sort of outwardly obvious female body traits they have. body traits they have. So, like, what if it's, like, three different completely random factors that caused one skinny model to be popular, and then because that one skinny model was popular, they just started, like, casting skinnier models and, like, that sort of overtook things, like, is sort of the idea that I think this book is suggesting not necessarily that specific theory but just that sort of random self-fulfilling popularity and like i think a place i've seen this or i thought of this is also in the uh the tide pod fed that's going around where kids are eating tide pods

and adults and adults adults, apparently. There's a lot of fucking adults out there eating that shit. For reasons I haven't really looked into, but I have to assume. I think the onion said it as a joke, and then people actually started doing it. There you go. And that's just, I mean, that is natural selection, though. Yeah, no, absolutely. So I'm fine with that.

Right. The Tide Pod Challenge, you know? It's like YouTube had to start taking them down because, like, yeah, you shouldn't eat fucking laundry detergent and shit. And there are some weird-ass videos, like, dudes, like, just straight sipping, like, Tide out of a cap and shit. It's, I don't fucking get it. Right. app and shit i it's i don't fucking get it right but when i was born there were like you know tv was the way that we got like all our entertainment but now that there's you know millions of people making videos every day on youtube like i i feel like you are more open to these sort of random

trends and stuff like that um and so you're going to see this effect. Maybe people be more sensitive to something as stupid as an Onion article that a bunch of people take seriously. I mean, yeah, but I also think that's just been a human proclivity like Orson Welles with War of the Worlds on the radio. People killed themselves because of a joke. And I just think there's a lot of dumb people like you can't. It's tough to be in the public eye public eye at all even having a podcast you're affecting people's days when you're just someone saying something into a mic right and it's like oh wait you're you were taking that seriously because i'm dumb and i don't even know if i really think that i just needed to fill airtime yeah it's really scary yeah yeah i hope i don't get sued well have you ever felt a tide pod because like when you touch one i want to bite the shit out of you're right, you're right. It's like a gusher. I mean, yeah, exactly. It's a multicolored gusher.

If they could make gushers like that, this is a huge opportunity for gushers to come back in a huge fucking way. Right. Just make the Tide Pod-style gusher. My man, just use this technology, like the dissolving whatever that's edible. Oh, my God. I'll be in fucking Tide Gusher pods all day. I want to take my money out of Bitcoin, put it into Gusher. Yeah.

So yeah, now that you're on a TV show, my man, I got some investment opportunities to talk to you about. I'll do them all. As long as they're Tide Pod based, that's fine. Yeah, yeah. Okay, good. Jake, it has been wonderful having you here. Where can people find you?

What would you like people to do? You can find me on Twitter and instagram at weisman jake w-e-i-s-m-a-n-j-a-k-e and please watch my show corporate on comedy central wednesdays at 10 p.m it's good it's very good very funny and if you have worked a day in your life you will uh recognize a lot of the stuff that you guys poke fun at miles where, where can people find you? You can find me trying to convince Jake to invest in my new Tide Pod Gushers little collab. If you're interested in social media, find me on

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Footnotes. Links off to all the sources that we used for our things that we talked about today. And Jake, you have a song that you can tell our listeners about that we can write out on today. Yes, I do. Is it going to be something very dark and depressing? No, it's going to be fun. What?

It's called My, My, My by Troy Sivan. T-R-O-Y-E-S-I-V-A-N. It's a really fun pop song. What do you like about it? I like that I don't have to think too much and it makes me feel good and it's dumb. Part of adulthood is admitting you like pop music. It's like candy that doesn't make your teeth hurt. You know, it's like, I like it.

It's made for me to like. Enjoy. So it's like the nodding hill of pop. That's perfect. All right. That's going to do it for today. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys. Now let's stop running from love, running from love Let's stop, my baby

Let's stop running from us, running from us Let's stop, my baby Oh my, my, my I die every night with you Oh my, my, my I die every night with you Oh my, my, my Living for a every moment Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years.

I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. What was that? That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. Can Kay trust her sister, or is history repeating itself? There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams.

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