The Daily Zeitgeist - Status Quo Confusion, COP27 = Fossil Fuel Trade Show 11.16.22

Episode Date: November 16, 2022

In episode 1374, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian, writer, and actor, Paige Weldon, to discuss… Time for the Mainstream Media To Misread The Election Results--Overall Analysis, Fetterman Analys...is, Trump (Most Likely) Announced…How’s Everyone Feelin' Over There on the Right? This Year’s Climate Summit Brought To You By Coke And Big Oil and more! Time for the Mainstream Media To Misread The Election Results--Overall Analysis Fetterman Analysis Donald Trump’s Presidential Rerun Pompeo says expected Trump announcement won’t affect his own 2024 plans Republicans cringe as Trump 2024 approaches This Year’s Climate Summit Brought To You By Coke And Big Oil World’s Largest Climate Crisis Conference Sparks Controversy After Serving Meat Dry in the desert: Cop27 delegates get a taste of food and drink scarcity Coke Is a Sponsor of the Climate Summit in Egypt. Some Activists Aren’t Happy. COP27: Activists 'baffled' that Coca-Cola will be sponsor Coke could help save oceans from plastic — by keeping its promise Coke's COP27 sponsorship doesn't go down well with green groups 'Explosion’ in number of fossil fuel lobbyists at Cop27 climate summit COP27 awash with fossil fuel representatives, research shows The Swag or Not Swag video. LISTEN: Machine No Make Sex by Stro ElliotSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just
Starting point is 00:00:39 starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 00:01:25 podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 263, Episode 3 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist! by Diet Coke. miles it's november 16th yeah national fast food day national button day national indiana day national check your wipers day national education support professionals day you know what i mean check your wipers though for real man i've those rains we had recently yeah it hadn't rained so long i like the rubber had been destroyed in the summer heat like it just been cracked and blown off the wiper blade so when i ran it like the rubber just went floppy and it was just like smearing water all over my windshield yeah that down yeah it becomes like a dried out earthworm like yeah exactly after a while in los angeles when i first as an east coast transplant when
Starting point is 00:02:57 i first came out here i was like man people out here do not how to know how to respond to rain. Like they drive so slow in the rain. Or faster. Yeah, or faster. But then it's necessary. It's warranted because so many things that work about, you know, overcoming the rain when you're driving, there's just a fine film of dust on the ground at all times. And so the roads like turn, turn into this, like, slimy mess.
Starting point is 00:03:28 And, yeah, our windshield wipers, like, get wet once and then don't get wet for another six months. And then they're just, yeah, little dried out carcasses of windshield wipers. So check your wipers. Check your damn wipers. Don't be caught out here smearing on your windshield. Check your wipers. So check your wipers. Check your damn wipers. Don't be caught out smearing on your windshield. Check your wipers. Exactly. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, and I wanted
Starting point is 00:03:51 to bring that one up because a listener recently discovered the dish Potatoes O'Brien in the frozen food section of their grocery market. Oh, just now? Snapped a photo and asked the question that I think everyone's curious about. Sam O'Snow tweeted, okay, bud. Long time listener. Probably first time tweeter. photo and ask the question that i think everyone's curious about sam o snow tweeted okay bud long time listener probably first time tweeter i need to know if this was the thing before your aka
Starting point is 00:04:12 first of all thank you for calling me bud yeah yeah for being a listener i i want to believe in the version of reality where the people of or ida are such big fans of this show and like such big believers in the like broad cross-sectional appeal of the Daily Zeitgeist that they named a dish after after one of my AKs. So that's what we're going with. That is you can tell you write it on write it on Wikipedia, folks. That's that's the deal. They named it after me hundreds of years ago somehow and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray mr miles gray and jack o'brien shout out to this dueling aka from johnny davis it's miles greg and jocko bryant
Starting point is 00:05:01 uh because these are parents getting actors' names wrong. Five AKs. Oh, Miles Gregg and Jocko Bryant? Yeah, yeah, Mr. Bryant. He sounds fantastic. Thanks, Johnny, on the Discord for that one. I love that. That's a great... Jocko Bryant.
Starting point is 00:05:16 The T at the end. Jocko. Bryant. That's probably how my dad would get my name wrong if he wasn't my dad your own oh like even though it is his own last name he's like there's that jocko bryant jocko bryant kid yeah anyways miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny comedian writer and actor you know from such places as tv doing stand-up or acting in Heathers and Corporate,
Starting point is 00:05:45 one of the funniest comedies of the past decade, which she also wrote for. Please welcome back to the show, Paige Weldon! Paige! Oh my God, thank you so much. Thank you, Paige, for being here. Cracking up, I'm just thinking of all the actors' names that my mom has gotten wrong over the years.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Oh, hit us with something. What do you got? I'll never never forget she would not stop saying this is during you know the height of popularity of that 70s show she would say Aston Kutcher Aston Kutcher Aston Kutcher better name I mean
Starting point is 00:06:20 the layers of we've got ass, we've got cooch. I mean, we're having so much fun there. And then there was a period also, I assume, sort of in the same period of time, she would always say Kelly Clarkston. Clarkston. Which is not a huge miss. It's not as bad as Aston Kutcher. But, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Those are better, I think think when you're own when you add a letter like yeah it's like the height of misunderstanding a name more than wholesale like ashton kutcher i'm like tell me more about this clarkston yeah who is she yeah shelly clarkston i'm sure there are more maybe they'll come to me and i'll shout them out throughout the podcast yeah yeah yeah the addition for sure. Shout out to my mom. The addition of a T is underrated. Try adding T's to people's names. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:10 My dad does the very standard Brad Pitt's, which adding or taking away an S is always fun. Sounds like a business that Brad Pitt owns. Right, right, right, right. Exactly. Belonging to Brad Pitt's. Yes. Exactly. How are you doing, Paige? Where are you coming to us from i'm here at home you know i'm um this is in the wake of the delay of the taylor swift pre-sale
Starting point is 00:07:33 this morning so i'm actually feeling quite relaxed because i thought i had to worry about it all morning and now i'll worry about it at 3 p.m. Yeah. You've delayed your slow death by a few hours. Yeah, man. Yeah. Wait, are they going to just evaporate like instantly? I mean, like I know obviously people go like on Twitter. I'm seeing people who like I follow who live in Japan who are like, yo, one's just fucking like I'm ready to get these tickets. Is it like how how swiftly do you have to act when the tickets drop in order to obtain your seat?
Starting point is 00:08:07 Is it truly in that moment and then you have to go to the secondary market or there's time? It's just that the good seats go immediately. It's really hard to tell because I have personally never been the one making the purchase whenever. I went to the Reputation Tour ellie maclevay yeah i'm sure a former guest of the daily zeitgeist and obviously host of what's your favorite taylor swift song and she bought those tickets then like me and my friend katie had tickets to the tour for lover which was of course canceled because it was supposed to be summer 2020 and she had bought the tickets then and then
Starting point is 00:08:45 throughout like since then taylor swift has just gotten more popular and put out three albums plus her re-records so like the demand is higher right yeah i get it and yeah so i'm but i'm feeling very peaceful knowing that it's not happening right now. Nobody has, but nobody has bought a ticket. Nobody has. Nobody does that. You're not losing out. Yeah. May the gods be with you on your journey.
Starting point is 00:09:12 May fortune be with you. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to just, you know, look at some mainstream reads on what happened in the midterm election from the New York Times. We're going to talk about the GOP continuing to struggle with their is ending this week and just a little kind of behind
Starting point is 00:09:48 closed doors. There's the sort of big controversial things about the food and the sponsors. And then there's some things that are happening behind closed doors that feel like they should be more controversial that we will talk about. All of that, plenty more. But first page, we like to ask our guest what is something from your search history okay well i was gonna say best seats sofi stadium but i feel like that's just more of us talking about the same but i also had recently googled irish girls names and that was because i was panicking at a show where i knew they were filming the sets and i've been doing a joke where i say a real person's name and i thought maybe i should come
Starting point is 00:10:33 up with a different name but it's just such a funny name to me and i was in the back trying to come up with a fake name and the problem with that stuff is it's the real example is always funnier just like not possible like i i'm i wish i could i'll share offline with you guys the name that i that is the true name of this real person but i was like in the back being like well i can't say sersha everyone knows that name as sersha ronan like I mean, and these other ones are just, you know, what? Siobhan. Siobhan. Siobhan. I feel like that's,
Starting point is 00:11:07 you know, Shiv on Succession. Yeah. We're hearing that, you know. Sinead. What is it? Sinead.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Sinead. But that is another iconic one, right? Yeah. It's kind of a cool name. Sinead is red. Sinead is dope.
Starting point is 00:11:23 Yeah. This is more of like a, the joke I do is I call her a white girl named after a pony and I feel like I feel like Sinead is not a pony name, you know? Sinead is definitely a, Sinead is running that fucking, that whole
Starting point is 00:11:37 operation for sure. I feel like you can't go wrong with a Mary to start it off. Like Mary Sheila. Oh yeah, maybe a two-parter name like mary sheila o'callaghan yeah maybe i could make up a whole callahan's fake name with an irish last name yeah right yeah it's funny how it's true like truth and comedy is always like the thing you've like one of the first things you really learn when you're getting into comedy. And yeah, like to your point, even if you tried to engineer it, the fact like, you know, it's just funnier because it's coming from the absolute like
Starting point is 00:12:13 well of truth. And that probably translates immediately to the audience, even though they're like, was that the person's real name? You think just like the delivery and everything that comes together? How did it go? What would you come up with and did it hit as hard with the fake name in there? I just said her real name. There you go. I was like, you know what? It's a thing where I don't think they're going to put that part out online. It'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:12:38 You know what? If that girl finds out, I'd honestly be shocked. I think sometimes in comedy when it's like there's something about a show that's not being filmed where you go like I mean I'm technically speaking into a microphone to an audience this is not private but it
Starting point is 00:12:55 feels different when you're filming and like posting something online and all that feels like a different level I don't know but yeah the real the real example is always the funniest yeah it just is stick with it yeah what's something you think is overrated okay i always struggle with this when i come on here because i don't want to yuck anybody's yum you know i sure sure i i was thinking about it though and this is sort of like a meta maybe annoying response
Starting point is 00:13:26 but i do think actually like rating things and rankings is kind of overrated because for that exact reason which it's so uh it's so subjective you know like i think it's fun to rank things if like the three of us were like okay what's your top five favorite movies and then we could talk about it right so often it's like an article that's like, the best movies of all time, objectively. And it's like, no. Nah. Yeah. If you don't agree, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:13:54 You're done. Yeah. Like, I'm stupid if I have a different thing I like. Well, it's funny because that's, I think the thing that's like overrated too is people's perception of those articles. Right? I think the thing that's like overrated to is people's perception of those articles, right? Like to treat them like just because someone uploaded it to a content management system for a website doesn't mean that it's the word of God. Yeah. That was someone who made an article.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Then for you as the person, you don't have to go. I don't agree. Why are they fucking with me? It's OK. That's don't worry about there. Just just just have your truth and just look, oh, that's that person's. Don't worry about it.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Because half the time, I mean, it's funny, though. Jack and I do get incensed, though, when we see these rankings of top albums. We're like, this is stupid. Were they not around in 97? Yeah. It's hard to completely disconnect. That's why they're such a popular thing,
Starting point is 00:14:43 is because they get people mad. Right. And that's like the thing that gets people to read these articles is people being like, what the fuck? Like, this is this is who is this person? And it's like, yeah, who is this person? They're just an employee of this magazine or whatever. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:01 I think we need more listicles where we just have the people themselves be like, all right, Steven Spielberg, give us your own top 10 films of your movies that you like. Then you have something to really talk about there. You can be like, from their perspective, this is how they rank their work. That, I think, could lead to some interesting conversation. But if it's just a random person with following saying, this is the anointed list, yeah, it gets a little whatever. Yeah, that would be interesting yeah i was actually i went to speaking of concerts i went to uh maizey peters last night at the wiltern i don't know she's a young pop artist i really like her and she i remember she
Starting point is 00:15:35 introduced one of her songs as saying this is my favorite song from the album and i was like oh my gosh you never know i love when that happens yeah they tell you and it's like not the song you would have picked. And then a second appreciation for it. Yeah. That's fun. I like when like, yeah, a director comes out and is like, these are my five favorite movies. And they're not like the movies you would expect of them.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And, you know, you discover a new gem. I am definitely guilty of googling on multiple occasions like what are the best movies on netflix this this month and it's always it's like have you ever heard of monty python and the holy grail no shit the irishman is like still ranking it's jurassic park but then you can like go through and just cherry pick like the weird ones that you haven't heard of or you know something like that yeah i guess the thing that you can do if you want to like look at reviews and stuff as a way of figuring out what you want to consume is like if you have a reviewer or somebody that you typically agree with
Starting point is 00:16:40 it is kind of the only way to really get yeah at that but yeah yeah i wish there was more emphasis on this is my opinion and you know because so much of why i like certain movies or music or whatever is because of a personal connection i have with it not because i go objectively that is the best like i watched that i watched the lindsey lohan christmas movie on netflix did you enjoy it falling falling in christmas or falling christ uh yeah it was cool i mean like i wasn't mad i'm not going i never go into a christmas movie being like this is gonna be fuck the seminal work i'm like oh yeah i've got physical comedy lindsey lohan's having fun all right yeah no notes totally i think that
Starting point is 00:17:21 reminds me actually i just remembered i think that last time i was on here i was saying that the underrated thing was marry me the j-lo movie yeah and i think and i had just seen it too i was like yeah i'll go with that yeah it's so much about like going in with a certain like certain expectation or recognizing like kind of the category you know absolutely absolutely yeah have you guys heard of apocalypse now that's on the top 10 list for the flicks in november the guy the guy who is morpheus in the matrix is in there yeah what is something you think is underrated besides marry me of course okay i was thinking about this i feel like there are a lot of bands that like were popular a long time ago ish and they were like kind of viewed as lame or whatever and now they seem to be coming back around and i think a top example of that is red hot chili peppers
Starting point is 00:18:15 i feel like for years people were like red hot chili peppers are stupid and lame meanwhile i'm back here being like i absolutely could sing the entirety of californication and i'm supposed to be shamed for that and there's a part of me that feels like as i'm seeing like when they were like performing at the vmas and stuff i was like i'm glad they're i'm glad they're doing well anthony kiedis's hair looks ridiculous obviously there's things that we can poke fun at the red hot chili peppers for but at the end of the day i think they're they've they've been underrated for years yeah and i mean spies from china do try to steal our minds elation they were just ahead of the time
Starting point is 00:18:58 their time and pointing that out with tiktok you know yeah am i right yeah man it's so true i mean i feel like the same thing is happening with like sublime everyone's wearing sublime t-shirts or like for sale at urban outfitters and stuff and it's like it's again it's about perspective it's like i don't think that a red hot chili peppers and sublime are like the best bands of all time but i'm like i do if i'm If I'm driving down the freeway, like driving into San Diego, I would love to hear what's going on with Sublime, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:30 RHCPK, man. That was a good run we had on this leg for a while. Yeah. Where people were hitting us with Red Hot Chili Peppers, California Pizza Kitchen collab AKs. I think, yeah,
Starting point is 00:19:41 Red Hot Chili Peppers just has this, I don't know. They have this thing. I think it's because Kiedis can't sing. Sure. Sublime and Kiedis both have that where everybody can sing their songs because they showed you how somebody who can't sing sings those songs. I love that. I can't sing and I like to sing in my car. And same with even in Cobain.
Starting point is 00:20:05 I mean, I think Nirvana is better than those bands. But like there's an appeal of the lead singer who can't sing that I think instantly makes like it doesn't intimidate you to sing it. Although that never stops anyone from singing their favorite song. But like when someone's like, can't stop addicted to the shindig. You're like, come on. I could do that. i could do that i could do that i had that in my mind as can't stop addicted to the bing bong which is incorrect but i had actually literally written that out as like one of my favorite
Starting point is 00:20:37 like the character from inside out yeah i think that's where it came from yeah i'd like to see that collab i'd like to see a red hot chili peppers soundtrack on the next pixar film yeah yeah rhcpk can't stop addicted to the breadsticks do they even have breadsticks? I don't think so. At CPK? I'm sure they do. Yeah. I mean, their food is basically breadsticks. That's all.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Can't stop addicted to the spin dip. Because the spinach aren't dipped. That's right. Yeah. You can really put a lot there. Like, there's a lot of fun to be had there. I mean,
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Starting point is 00:21:43 We need more. It's been long enough. We've let it rest for long enough. it's been long enough we've let it be long enough yeah page just oh you look you now the toothpaste has come out the tube it's time embrace it r-e-t-k must return we've let it rest like a pizza dough getting ready for to to be baked and now it's risen it's risen back it's ready it's ready oh yeah all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo gray former member of 7m films and shekinah church and we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
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Starting point is 00:24:31 People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way
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Starting point is 00:26:31 You know, there's an article that the headlines are coming out. The New York Times. This was the greatest midterm, this greatest election for leftist and progressive policies. No, no, not those headlines, Miles. Oh, because that was there. Oh, I saw that. That seemed to be something I saw. Wait, what did they say?
Starting point is 00:26:47 Where did you see that? In the New York Times? No, probably not. Oh, right. So in the New York Times, they had the headline, how the 2022 midterms became a squeaker, which is a fun word. But with that, you expect some analysis of what was actually happening here. And instead, it's like a lot of reporting from insiders who misread the
Starting point is 00:27:08 election that there's like a, it opens with the guy Maloney, who's like the D triple C guy who was like in charge of a bunch of the strategy and then lost his own election and a massive upset and was like totally outside of this wave that they're trying to explain it opens with a scene where he's like arguing about how they should approach it and he writes believe on the board like a ted lasso quote and but then they're like and then he lost so nobody really knows what's going on here they They actually like lay the breadcrumbs. And then it's like they just they walked right up to it and then they won't say what actually
Starting point is 00:27:52 happened. So one big thing they say, Democrats actually won voters who, quote, somewhat disapproved of Mr. Biden, according to initial exit polling, by a margin of 49 percent to 45 percent. exit polling by a margin of 49% to 45%. That is a far cry from the 2010 and 2018 midterms when voters who somewhat disapproved of Barack Obama and Mr. Trump overwhelmingly backed the opposing party by margins of 40 points and 30 points. So instead of losing by 40 and 30 points, they won by four points. That's it's a huge swing and so it would seem like this would lead to a pretty clear message that like democrats want more progressive policy than the party is willing to give them but you know they're i don't know it just sounds like
Starting point is 00:28:38 they don't like the republicans that's what i'm that's the most i can read into that so i don't have to do any ideating here yeah they do mentionbs up top, which is a big part of the answer. But they don't mention that the Democrats have been unable and unwilling to codify reproductive rights, which is a way in which the desires of the voters are more progressive than the policy and the party. Like just over and over again. Right right you're hit with this fact that they instead of stating that fact or you know diving into it and you know showing the statistics that back it up instead of that they just keep going back to like well they doubled down on this messaging strategy and then this messaging strategy worked and this one didn't and it's all triangulation and you know insider it's like an article written by and for political strategists
Starting point is 00:29:32 instead of like trying to make sense of what actually happened than those of us on earth the election yeah and then they also so another headline that had me hoping that maybe we were going to get, like the New York Times is going to report on kind of the very straightforward message that we saw in these midterms. Democrats see a blueprint in Fetterman's victory in Pennsylvania. So it's like, how are they going to fuck this up? Right. Like, how did. Yeah. So more progressive stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Yeah. Run left of the party a little bit. The big question, the big mystery at the middle of this one, how did Fetterman outperform Biden all over the place, specifically in white working class counties? How? It feels like a pretty straightforward explanation. You know, those places went populist for Trump because he acknowledges the system is bad and the status quo treats them badly. Fetterman was different from Biden in that he seemed like he wasn't beholden to the status quo and policies and talking points. You'd think they'd dig into some of the progressive policies he focused on,
Starting point is 00:30:36 some of his class-based talking points. And instead, all they talk about is his Carhartt jacket, his open neck shirt, his tattoos. Like this is how they introduce him. But Mr. Fetterman, with his tattoos and Carhartt wardrobe and priorities like marijuana legalization, appears to have regained ground with white working class. Then like right after, Mr. Fetterman, Pennsylvania's lieutenant governor, who posed for his official portrait in an open collar gray work shirt, won a larger share of voters than Mr. Biden did in almost every county. But it's like that's the that's all they focus on. They're just and then they like get quotes from Republicans who dismiss him because he's weird looking. And that's it's it's all optics. I'm still mystified how he could do so well because he didn't release any of his medical records.
Starting point is 00:31:27 He didn't do good in the debate. He embraced Biden. He's an odd looking guy in shorts and a hoodie. I thought this was going to be easy. Mr. Gleason said of Fetterman, Mr. Gleason is a Republican like strategist. And then there are like two mentions of policies and campaign platform that seem to focus on the working class and they just bring them up in like a sentence fragment and then move on and it just goes back to like we don't know how this guy did it i think it's his bald head yeah like that really seems
Starting point is 00:31:58 to be well what are his tattoos i'm like looking at i googled looking at like a breakdown of his tattoos i guess he has one that says i will make you hurt like from the song yeah right i mean and and the yeah fox was like what does that mean yeah i saw there's a headline that says satanic democrat john federman has tattoo i will make you hurt on his right arm that he now hides taken from song on suicide. Right. It's like, okay, that just sounds like an explanation,
Starting point is 00:32:29 but it's phrased. Yeah. He was really fucking with Trent Reznor for a little bit. Yeah. Oh, okay. But like, yeah, you look at,
Starting point is 00:32:38 it's so funny that they're like, what could it be? Is it his clothes? Cause they don't want to investigate deeper than shit you can dress up some other goon in it can't be that he is like yeah universal health care support like this is these are the on his issues page guaranteeing health care supporting workers plus the union way of life promoting uh like building a clean energy future, fighting inflation and lowering costs, delivering criminal justice reform, just like these protecting women's reproductive freedoms. He's telling you right there. These are a lot of the things that guess what? Appeal to even the rural in these rural areas.
Starting point is 00:33:18 He should get them tattooed on his face, just like a list of his policies. just like a list of responses. That's what Patrick Maloney's going to do in his next race. He's going to be like, look, I got these tattoos. Look, universal health care dripping out my eye like I murked a guy in prison. See, I'm with it. They don't mention universal health care once
Starting point is 00:33:36 in the whole article. Yeah. They don't want to fucking reckon with the actual policies. And again, this whole class of people, the consultants, the, the, the journalists,
Starting point is 00:33:47 they're so embedded in like invested in the old way of doing things in politics that they, they're constantly befuddled. They're like these 50 year old tools don't seem to be working anymore. Is it his car heart jacket? No, it's inequality. It's the fact that people are like, holy shit, there are existential threats out there that if I don't fucking actually begin to pay attention to who's in positions of power, shit might just go by the wayside suddenly.
Starting point is 00:34:16 That maybe has something to do with it. Not because he's got this like, like, obviously his appeal with the way he dresses is that he is a little more grounded than every other plastic doll man you send out or a person to be like, and I am the Democrat who is not the Republican. Exactly. The other the other strategy. There's one part where I was like, oh, OK, they're about to say the thing. An alternative explanation for why Mr. Fetterman did so much better than Mr. Biden in red counties, besides winning some former Trump supporters, is that a different spectrum of voters turned out and it just gets into like his ground game in those counties. And then they close it out. They do a bunch of interviewing of like their, you know, they love an interview with a blue collar, white working class voter to tell them like what they're missing. And so so they close the article with a quote from someone who didn't vote in the election talking about clothes. Basically, they're like, Mr. Astle voted twice for Mr. Trump and said that his presidency
Starting point is 00:35:21 should have been more successful. Like some other blue-collar Trump supporters, Mr. Astle said Mr. Fetterman seemed inauthentic to him in his shorts and hoodie get-ups, given that Mr. Fetterman's affluent family supported him through his 40s when he drew a token salary as the mayor of Braddock, Pennsylvania. And then, Carhartt was originally designed for blue-collar people,
Starting point is 00:35:39 Mr. Astle said about, Astle, sorry, said about Mr. Fetterman's famous workwear wardrobe, but now Carhartt is one of those brands all the yuppies wear. That's the last line of the article. That's where they leave it. Yeah, I mean, it's, listen,
Starting point is 00:35:54 not that that's not a thing, but I don't know if it's the topic at hand. Right, and it's just so surface level and mechanics level. They can't possibly think that like political strategists talking about like not understanding the results is a better, more coherent narrative to put out. It's it's just.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah. I don't know. It's pretty shocking. Like, even though it's, it's pretty shocking. Even though it's kind of what we expect. They're trying to put up a firewall so the discussion isn't, we just need to lean into these policies more. Right.
Starting point is 00:36:35 You know what I mean? If they can prevent that from being the discourse that is generated off the backs of their articles, then they've done something good. Because everyone who reads it, when they've done something good because everyone who reads it, when they all get together, like, did you read, oh, wow, like the midterms is great. Yeah. I think it's the look of Fetterman that I think is really helping.
Starting point is 00:36:52 We just need more people that look like that. It looks like that's really connecting. Right. No, you fucking ghouls. People are fucking suffering. Address that. And someone will be like, hey, what? You're actually, you're giving me a vision of something I can invest in emotionally wow that sounds like a good proposition yeah i i do kind of
Starting point is 00:37:11 hope joe biden gets tat like gets sleeved sleeves like just because he takes the wrong message from this and starts wearing like a jean jacket can you get tattoos if your skin is like that loose? I was going to say, does someone have to like stretch it out to make it taut enough to have the image? But then once it returns to its normal state. All I have to say is Joe Biden, just rock like a fun wig. You don't have to get tattoos. I think people will fuck with you. Like if he had like Gen Z broccoli hair. Yeah. i think a mullet would work well for him like it feel it already feels
Starting point is 00:37:50 like he should have a mullet you know like that fake picture from like the i think it was like when clinton was inaugurated or whatever where it looks like joe's got the wild mullet but it was someone behind him's hair yeah okay maybe like a septum piercing. You know. Could you imagine they're so far fucking behind from being in touch? It's like the most in touch person they have is like a Gen X guy who's like I don't know maybe he could rock like some flannel and like a
Starting point is 00:38:16 Nirvana tee. Docs. Maybe. Yeah. At least they're trying something do they like i'm really interested if anybody has like come across an article where a new york time or like an interviewer a new york times journalist is like yeah yeah no like we just know we can't say that like where like what i'm curious about the process even of like how you write an article like this it's self selecting you know you right the people that last all think the same way so you know very quickly
Starting point is 00:38:49 they're like yeah this is how we talk about shit over here and i'm sure within there they're like oh okay like we're not gonna go all far left on people when they're talking about stuff like maybe it was the like real issues that regular people are like experiencing. That was maybe in the secret sauce of like talking, speaking to their lived experiences and saying, Hey, I understand groceries cost way too fucking much. And guess what? It's not because of this or that these fucking companies,
Starting point is 00:39:17 they're charging whatever the fuck they want. And they're getting away with it. Why? Because the fucking government doesn't do shit to actually intervene. So that's something I see as something we can do going forward it's that kind of shit not yeah hey man y'all like you fuck with this carhartt all right john fetterman thank you so much poor people yeah all right on the other side of the ticket trump wait we're recording this before you know when trump is expected to announce but it's he most likely announced already, right, that he's running at this point.
Starting point is 00:39:47 I mean, if the reporting is accurate, as you're hearing this, this dude just pulled up and said, I'm announcing, baby, I'm ready for 2024. And probably Jared and Ivanka won't be there because that was the last thing I read was they have nothing to do with the announcement because they're probably doing a little rehab on their brand too. Yeah, they're trying to get to those sick Florida party. I mean, this could be good or bad. I don't know. We never want to have to deal with
Starting point is 00:40:18 Donald Trump again, but I don't know. Ron DeSantis just freaks me out also because he's like the kid brother to Donald Trump. And like where Trump's is like older brother who had like that one good season of high school football and then just completely burnt out on his own ego. And he's like, all right, so I'm not going to do that, but I can learn from his terrible mistakes. And he's like DeSantis just seems like the Raptors from the newer Jurassic Park films where Trump is like the the raptor from the first one like dangerous in the first one but now this motherfucker is like like communicating with the other raptors and like collaborating and just doing problem solving that's how i friends with chris pratt
Starting point is 00:40:54 like yeah exactly exactly pretty soon we will see them together i'm sure but i just want to talk about some of the top headlines that were going into Tuesday's announcement, because everything has been like this full court press to be like, he sucks, right? Is he going to be ousted? I don't know. Let's check in with all the other people in MAGA world, starting with Mike Pompeo, former secretary of state. He said he's he ain't scared. Quote, I think he's asking, like, you know, you know, this guy might announce, you know, obviously you have your own aspirations. He said, well, we're trying to think our way.
Starting point is 00:41:27 We're trying to think our way through figuring out what's next for us. But what happens today or tomorrow, what some other person decides won't have any impact on that decision. We need more seriousness. We need we need less noise. We need steady hands. We need leaders that are looking forward, not staring in the rearview mirror, claiming victimhood. So that's him with his lightly spicy take. Yeah, he's like preparing himself to run against Trump.
Starting point is 00:41:51 It sounds like. Yeah. Yeah. And we'll we'll see, because once he just starts being like, yeah, well, your wife is ugly. Then, like, suddenly they're like, well, that does seem to be the other, like, comprehensive take that has been taken away by the mainstream media is that Trump is poison and he's the reason they lost. But so so I'm sure all the political analysts and strategists and consultants around all of these candidates are telling them like, yeah, it's a wide open field. Like, get in there and start criticizing Trump. Pay me. I mean, you get a field day getting one of these candidates here.
Starting point is 00:42:27 The Wall Street Journal has basically said the GOP in the country would be best served if Mr. Trump ceded the field to the next generation of Republican leaders to compete for the nomination in 2024. OK, so the Wall Street Journal is not there. Lindsey Graham, hey, are you down, my man? He said, let's see what he says. This is a quote from Lindsey Graham when they asked about, like, will you support him? This is Lindsey Graham's answer? He said, let's see what he says. This is a quote from Lindsey Graham when they asked about, like, will you support him? This is Lindsey Graham's answer quote. Let's see what he says.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I'll tell you after Georgia. So he's given two deadlines. We'll see what he says. And also, let's see what happens after Georgia. And then Ron DeSantis himself, they're saying, again, he was doing a press conference. They're like, hey, what about all this noise? Looks like Trump, you know, saying some stuff about you. What do you think about everything that's going on around your campaign or potential campaign? And then this is how he responded. And really what matters is,
Starting point is 00:43:18 are you leading? Are you getting in front of issues? Are you delivering results for people? And are you standing up for folks? And if you do that, then none of that stuff matters. And that's what we've done. We focused on results and leadership. And, you know, at the end of the day, I would just tell people to go check out the scoreboard from last Tuesday night. Okay. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Oh, you think he's got something, got some juice? Scoreboard, motherfucker. I won by all his all his picks got blown out any other questions subtle subtle interesting i mean yeah i i do feel like his brand is crisis and conflict and being in fights and shit slinging and so he's probably making a strategically smart move by like starting early getting all these people like talking spicy and then he can he can create the conflict that he's yeah i think he's he's in a better position to be like king of the hill type thing and shoving people back down who are trying to get to his perch versus trying to get to someone else's perch right you know what i mean like if if the if the roles are inverted and it's like desantis's party now and
Starting point is 00:44:43 trump's trying to claw back i don't know how back, I don't know what his odds are there. But because he's still firmly at the top, I'm just not confident in the combined power of like Rupert Murdoch's media and the establishment can get Trump to vanish. It's just because, again, he still has fans. So unless you can get the fans to like abandon, it's going going to be a fucking it's going to be it's going to be a big fight. Big old fight. Yeah. Yeah. He's great at getting people to vote both for him and against him.
Starting point is 00:45:13 So like in a in a Republican primary, I feel like the main thing that comes out is getting people to vote for him to the people he's going to getting to vote against him. Don't don't vote in mass in the republican primary at least they haven't traditionally so it's just funny too because on the right they're also like you know you'll have the new york times be like here's our op-ed where we're like take us to your poor people world and like try and tell you what their real problems are but like and and they clearly don't understand what's going on with, you know, most of like working America.
Starting point is 00:45:49 And it's just funny, like on the right, they're doing this thing where like, they know there are white supremacists, like creature goblins that like everything they stand for is like repugnant to a self-respecting human being. But they were even like, I don't even understand what the heck happened. I do.
Starting point is 00:46:06 I just have to play this clip from Janine Pirro, Judge Janine Pirro, because she's so animated trying to figure out like what is going on. It's like, y'all don't act stupid. You know what happened. She, she posits that this abortion thing came out of nowhere on us.
Starting point is 00:46:23 The thing that your party has been like you're like i'm single-mindedly focused on getting past for the past 50 years listen to this speaking of no personal responsibility this is her just trying to fucking figure it out i'm like in the middle of her rant because she's already like i don't understand joe biden afghanistan woke bryce gas prices shouldn't have won but here she is where she's starting to get into this whole abortion thing. The economy economy with Afghanistan, everything about what we've been through for the last two years has been a nightmare. And I'll tell you what won this election for the Democrats. Sure, the young people came out and voted.
Starting point is 00:46:59 They got paid. I mean, they got the student loans paid back. It was a buyout. I mean, that's what happened with them. But the other thing is abortion. It was all about abortion. Joe Biden didn't do abortion. Abortion just kind of fell out of the Supreme Court for whatever reason in May or June of this year. And that was it. That's all the Democrats needed. Now they're going to beat their chest. They're going to say, well, it's because we're so great. Joe Biden, what a leader.
Starting point is 00:47:26 America hates him. Okay. And that's all I have to say. Okay. Okay. So it's not the decades long fucking war. You've shadow war. They've been fighting both like overtly and covertly.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Like, come on now. It's just wild though, too too that they're simultaneously they're like reaping what they sow is like like just rhetorically and they're like ah how did they don't like that oh shit also can i why does she have like a like a something on her wrist yeah she i look i'm not gonna speculate she she might have injured herself and some kind of it's just interesting to see someone animatedly you know talking yeah like yeah it's an interesting reveal when you're giving such an impassioned rant and then you're like oh you hurt yourself you fall down it comes in like right as she's getting the most animated it yeah no she's been
Starting point is 00:48:22 rocking it for the last uh couple weeks i think yeah she's like and also in my in my uh in my building where i live they didn't put up a wet floor sign and now and so that came out of nowhere and right abortion just fell out of the sky what even is abortion what what are they even talking about man but that is also kind of how the mainstream media is treating it that it's just like well this gift to the democrats and that's why they won and it's it's not acknowledging like that statistic that i i'm gonna like have a hard time getting over is like usually you vote like people who are dissatisfied with the president vote for the other party by 40 to 30, 30 to 40 points. And this time they voted for the president they're dissatisfied with by five points. And it's because, yeah, it's abortion is wildly unpopular. The Republican Party has been working forever to
Starting point is 00:49:22 pass this incredibly unpopular thing. People aren't happy with the job that Biden and the Democratic Party have been doing to fight back against it. But it's better than the party that actually passed the thing. So, again, it's like people want more progressive policy than the two major parties are willing to give them. parties are willing to give them yeah but and now the supreme court is basically just seen as an extension of the gop to a lot of people because of like how like fucking chaotic some of the past confirmation hearings have been and then on the heels of that you see them doing decisions like well maybe we'll you know here's here's the dobbs decision here's us you know maybe doing a little something to that student loan forgiveness we'll see if it gets to us. Like you, you can kind of see where like the rubber,
Starting point is 00:50:08 like it meets the road for a lot of things too. And you know, you don't want to have a, like to say your whole brand is like, yeah, those are all our people. The ones who are into taking away all of your fucking rights. That's our brand actually. Oh wait, you, oh, they're starting to connect that now. Right. What the heck happened back there? For some reason that we're still looking into we're not sure where this abortion
Starting point is 00:50:30 thing came from but it fell out of the sky that's amazing is that just to just absolve themselves of like saying that they're a party you know like, like I'm trying to understand, like I get, I get like the very human instinct to be like, oh, I'm not going to take an L on that thing I believe in, but that's me lying to myself. Like, is that her lying to herself? Is it?
Starting point is 00:50:56 Cause there's also a version where you see this too, where people are so fucking out of touch that they really like, wait, what? That's not popular. You're like, are you for real? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:51:04 I think it's that i'm trying to figure out which one it is out of touch or ego preservation i think it's out of touch i think they're used to being the ones who can motivate the base with like extreme views and they're just suddenly in the find out phase of fucking around and finding out and they are not they they're not equipped with the structural kind of ideas to to like understand what has happened here and so they're just kind of flailing
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Starting point is 00:56:46 about whether they're going to do something yeah i mean fetterman's like he's at least has some he's genuine and he's like look i know we're fracking out here in pennsylvania so i'm not trying to say that we ain't fracking no more but also shit's fucked. Seriously. Yeah. Yeah. And so I think climate is probably a bigger and bigger part of this dissatisfaction with the status quo that there is this entrenched, you know, corporate and political class that is unwilling to change things and change how we do things enough to address climate change. to change things and change how we do things enough to address climate change and we saw that in a big way this week in the final week of cop 27 the international climate summit which this year is taking place in egypt 200 countries got together put their heads together and have done fuck all apparently i mean we're all good now there are a bunch of speeches but no talk of any new announcements or pledges
Starting point is 00:57:50 before the whole thing wraps on Friday and there's like a bunch of controversies a bunch of people being like the menu includes like salmon flown in from the Atlantic thousands of miles away and I think these are like these symbolic things that the mainstream
Starting point is 00:58:05 media likes to like focus on that get at people's, you know, anxiety that like, well, this is a ruling class that has none of the same priorities that we have on this massive subject that is threatening the lives of every every human being on this planet. And people are like, yeah, so let's talk about how people are mad about the menu because it'll make them look out of touch. But there's also big, gigantic structural issues with how this thing is, how this conference operates. One of the major sponsors this year is Coca-Cola. Well, they need to drink something jack right what's the problem with coca-cola well there's a recent report that says the company's production of plastics is increasing
Starting point is 00:58:55 people are you know pointing out that that is like they are one of the biggest polluters in the world oh okay yeah no that's good that's not bad i mean that's bad that's bad which is like exactly why they would want to sponsor right because it makes them look like 100 yeah yeah this is part of them coke claims they're working on doing better and believe in effective climate solutions and oh yeah that's why people are saying like this is all just greenwashing this is like marketing i think and that's what's really clever too because even with the way coca-cola operates right like they're like yeah man we have a commitment to slash our use of plastics here's
Starting point is 00:59:36 the thing you don't know we can only do so much it's our bottlers that ultimately make that decision so we can say we're not we're fucking with less plastic but until you talk to these like six companies that determine the bottles that this shit goes into yeah i can't really do shit for y'all yeah and those companies have all said they're not doing shit do you think pepsi is kind of like enjoying being second best now like being like the attention's off us like we're actually good with the fact that nobody talks about Pepsi. Yeah, nobody's talking about that. Pepsi's still operating in Russia, doing
Starting point is 01:00:09 commercials with Putin because at least we're not. No, I'm joking, but I feel like that's what they could be doing right now. We don't know. We don't know. I mean, they make Mountain Dew, so they get a pass just because of their proximity to Mountain Dew. I'm willing to turn a blind eye.
Starting point is 01:00:26 It is a natural dew collected from mountains and put in. Even if it is at the expense of everyone on Earth. Right. So be it. But there's also details from this conference that are kind of what I always suspected is going on with that is keeping climate change from actually like being addressed with actual policies. For instance, there are a ton of oil lobbyists at the summit making deals in closed rooms. This was has apparently been happening for years. There's one scientist who like works on carbon emissions and came out and said the real deals are handled
Starting point is 01:01:06 indoors you know in closed rooms this is the management professor a management professor at the first one he attended cop 17 in south africa he tried to get into a session on carbon emissions in the mining industry a topic he was researching but But guess what? They turned me away. And who walks in the room to discuss to develop global climate policy? CEOs of Rio Tinto, Shell, BP, followed by the ministers. this immense inertia, like this giant global economy that has a built-in logic and like a built-in way of doing things. And none of it involves listening to professors instead of like, you know, discussing first and foremost, what's good and bad for your bottom line. And this year, the lobbyists, there were 636 lobbyists from the oil and gas industry registered to attend last year there was 503 so clearly they're seeing that this is a winning strategy and there's literally more of them than there are people representing like the humans of the countries that they're coming from like the delegations they're from that number is closer
Starting point is 01:02:19 to zero more people representing gas and on earth fuckers than anybody else i mean it's it is wild but it's it's just a reflection of everything that you see around us you know the people that have the seat at the table are the businesses and they have they literally will sit next to the politicians and be like okay so how can we work this out right uh because you know we're not we don't want to change too much but like I get y'all need a win too. So let's figure out what that can be while we can maintain our business. And like, it's the same thing you see it. So many decision making like arenas for decision making where you have the companies, the politicians.
Starting point is 01:02:59 But what about the billions of human beings who are actually like on the brink of a human total human rights disaster? Right. Because we're not talking about it like that. It's just like, oh, wow. What what will they come up with this time? Joe Biden gave a good speech and Al Gore said something nice. But at the end of the day, we're talking about, you know, real fucked up, horrible things coming down from more people on top of the people who are already experiencing it and the lack of addressing that situation the lack of funds being pushed towards the countries that are right now on the receiving end of our lax policies so yeah it's it's it's very very frustrating because you know you think you look at everything that's being reported and you you'd like to hear that there's some kind of serious discussion happening aside from like whatever piecemeal like you know incremental thing they'll announce that would be like hey it turns out we have like six more years before we're fucked so we'll do things in like five and a half years right right right and you
Starting point is 01:04:01 know insidiously fund research that tells people what they want to hear instead of the research that is just motivated by the scientific method and, you know, democratic truths of like, you know, this is bad for the most amount of people. change conference is essentially now a fossil fuel industry trade show which makes sense every every like capitalist enterprise wants to eventually influence the most amount of money and it makes sense that that that's where it would go it's just further proof that like you can't fix this system with the system like the the current system is broken and you can't use a broken tool to fix a broken system you know it's well but you can pull yourself up by your own bootstraps right that's that is the answer it's like the same logic as like well the same bootstraps you would pull yourself up with are the tools you need to use to fix the whole fucking thing hmm yeah well i don't know we'll see i'm for it yeah you know all these all these oil ceos i'm sure have biographies that are all about how they pulled themselves up by the bootstraps and
Starting point is 01:05:18 yeah right oh well you know we shall see i, they still have a few days. Maybe they'll surprise us. You know, maybe they'll surprise us. You never know. But yeah, I mean, it's things don't bode well in general because the powers that be like the status quo is here for the time being. And they served the salmon. Right. And they served salmon. Also, the other thing, like the other big story about the food, in addition to it being like super luxe and like not making any sense from a climate policy perspective, was people at the desert just to, you know, just so they could eat something normal. Oh, my God. So it's just everything you would expect in your worst nightmares about like or you are like most ham fisted satire of how the world actually operates. Why can't there be like a leftovers type event at COP 27? Why can't there be like a leftovers type event at COP27? Or like kind of a potluck style, like everybody brings something.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Oh, I'm at the TV show where those people vanished in the rapture. Oh! But I'd also make them eat leftovers. That would be more... Yeah, thank you. Now we're not wasting. Okay, we've got some old McDonald's fries, the salmon skin from earlier. Okay, we got some old McDonald's fries. The salmon skin from earlier. Okay, we can do something with this. Everyone should be shopping vintage and, you know,
Starting point is 01:06:53 thrifting and they should be having a potluck. Make the meat a freaking diet where it's all just food from a dumpster that's been salvaged. I mean, it's not often, God, that you're going to get all the bad guys in one place and you could
Starting point is 01:07:08 just rapture them away to Funtown. Right. Yeah. Anyway, think about it, God, if you exist, really. Paige, as always, such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Thank you for having
Starting point is 01:07:26 me. Pleasure to be here, as always. You can follow me on Instagram at Paige Weldon. And also, if you live in Minneapolis or the surrounding areas, I will be there this weekend. Friday and Saturday, the 18th and 19th at the Comedy Corner Underground
Starting point is 01:07:42 doing two shows. Will you do that joke? Yes. Oh, yeah. Hey, so now Zyking, you can find out too. Alright. You can tell. You can tell. You can tell her. You can find her and tell her I'm talking about her. They're going to be really fun. This place is really cool. It's like a small kind of like punk rock
Starting point is 01:07:58 indie comedy venue. It's under a bar in Seven Corners called the Corner Bar. Two shows. There'll be local comics on it. I think it'll be really fun. It's too cold bar in Seven Corners called the Corner Bar. Two shows. There'll be local comics on it. I think it'll be really fun. And it's too cold to be outside. So come on inside, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:12 And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Okay. So I have been enjoying on TikTok. I'm a big fan of this girl at Sad Girl Swag. It's GRL sad girl swag. And she does reaction videos that are like swag or not swag about whatever she's watching. And like, listen,
Starting point is 01:08:33 there are a lot of people doing these type of reaction videos on Tik TOK, but damn, she just, I just love her. Like she'll do. Okay. Let me, let me play one that I enjoyed recently.
Starting point is 01:08:42 So here, send it, send it. Do you have a, are you looking at your phone? Let me send her account in the chat so that you guys can be enjoying these videos i just think she's funny and somehow every time she declares something swag or not swag i'm like she's right like i agree like that is swag and that is not swag take a look which which one which one which one should we play for? Play this one where we're looking at the Reese's peanut butter cups
Starting point is 01:09:08 in the hydraulic press. Over here? Okay. Yeah. Here we go. Welcome to Swag or Not Swag. I've seen this before. We're going to get chocolate spaghetti, I think.
Starting point is 01:09:17 Yeah, swag. Of course. I love it. Skittles spaghetti, maybe. I like it. Swag. I hadn't seen that one it looks a little scary it looks like a monster right there i don't know this is my favorite i haven't seen this gummy bear gummy worm swag okay changed gummy bear gummy worm gummy bear okay swag and she'll do like the ones where it's like the random videos that are all over tiktok of like
Starting point is 01:09:49 this person's for some reason running over a bunch of objects with their with a tire or like the you know like any number of these like satisfying quote-unquote videos to watch she'll assess is it swag or is good thing good gotta know gotta know i they're just pleasant to watch i like her yeah yeah yeah i just like how also like she's really distilled her just everything into it could be it just fits into swag or not swag and it's applicable to anything yes well and i and i love whenever you look at like i love looking at the comments on any tiktok but like everyone's always like you're how are you always at like, I love looking at the comments on any TikTok, but like everyone's always like, how are you always right?
Starting point is 01:10:27 Like, how do I totally agree with everything you just said? I'm so confident. It's like, yeah, it is swag. Unfortunately, I regret to inform you that it is swag. It is swag. And she has like, if you watch enough of her videos, you go like, you also start to be able to tell like her taste. Right, right, right, right.
Starting point is 01:10:45 She's like, no, this isn't swag for her. But for me, swag. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack got NBA boosties.
Starting point is 01:10:59 I said NBA boosties. Man, I'm telling you, it's hard being at the top of the comedy basketball pod dog pile right that sounds like a thing yeah and we are come by and check that out uh and also sophie alexander and i on 420 day fiance we're talking 90 day fiance some tweets that are like really it's from chris estrada which this fool has got renewed for a second season. Hooray to that. At Chris Estrada 85 tweeted, as a Mexican slash Latino,
Starting point is 01:11:31 I actually don't feel represented by the Namor character in the new Black Panther movie because I can't swim. If Namor was wearing basketball shorts at the beach and only going in knee high into the ocean, then I would have felt seen. I like it. Got me there, Chris. Shout out to Chris, my friend. Amazing.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Tweet I've been enjoying at OXFUBAR tweeted, fun fact, FTX appointed the Enron Liquidator as the CEO replacement for SBF. Another fun fact, built by traders for traders was the tagline for both companies, both Enron and FTX. And then Christopher Hooks responded, that is true. And then Christopher Hooks responded, for traders was the tagline for both companies both enron and ftx and then christopher hooks responded that that is true and then christopher hooks responded elizabeth holmes's dad was a vp
Starting point is 01:12:10 at enron we're living in the enron century wow if you don't know the story of enron for our younger listeners or you know anyone it's worth going and finding some good documents it's yeah it's just wild how blatantly they were making up money paying it to themselves and then got caught and basically got away with it and jack's bunch of swag swag or not swag though swag for sure swag yeah and run swag yeah and run swag yeah but just a lot of people learned an important lesson from that you know and then the rest of the country who wasn't paying attention to that learned that shit on after the 2008 financial collapse it's just like yeah yeah no not none of this it's all none of this really matters yeah yeah where it does matter it's just
Starting point is 01:13:02 none of none of your rules really matter. It's none of this is real. Anyways, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at daily zeitgeist. We're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website daily zeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to information that we talked about.
Starting point is 01:13:24 We'll link off to Paige's Swag Not Swag recommendation. As well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? I think I just hurt my neck yelling footnotes. Yeah, it happens. This is a remix of Stro Elliot
Starting point is 01:13:39 and James... Okay, it's a James Brown remix by Stro Elliot. And it's like a mashup of James Brown and Fela Kuti. That's why it's called Machine No Makes Sex. Because it's based off the Fela Kuti, Water No Get Enemy. So this is Machine No Makes Sex. And this is kind of a, it's a dope Afrobeat remix of James Brown. So check this one out.
Starting point is 01:14:02 Amazing. All right, we'll link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find your favorite podcast. That's going to do it for us this morning. Back this afternoon to tell
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