The Daily Zeitgeist - Stoned Driving = Cops’ White Whale, Y2K Fashion Is Back! 2.17.22

Episode Date: February 17, 2022

In episode 1087, Jack and Miles are joined by actor Arden Myrin to discuss Cops still don’t know how to check if drivers are stoned, a new device may change that, Early 2000s Officially Coming Back and more! Cops still don’t know how to check if drivers are stoned, a new device may change that Early 2000s Officially Coming Back Follow: @ardenmyrinLISTEN: Some by Steve Lacy Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti and I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career.

That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the

making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 224, episode 3 of The Daily Zeitgeist! A production of iHeartRadio. Diet Coke. consciousness it's thursday february 17th 2022 which of course means that it is random acts of kindness day which that's nice that other people have a day for it that's every day in this

household miles and it's also cabbage day national cabbage day national cabbage day baby the it's like the most life-sustaining vegetable i think on the planet you know what i mean like it grows fucking anywhere in most kinds of climates so shout out to all my cabbage eating people you were shocked when i said i love cabbage so you love cabbage just raw what oh big oh baby i like them raw yeah baby i like it raw i take my cabbage and i use i slice it in a mandolin so it comes out like paper thin. Paper thin. Yeah. Normally you eat it like that if you have tonkatsu, like a fried pork cutlet in Japan.

It's like a standard side dish. But I love, love the, you know, I just like cabbage salad. I have it with a can of tuna. Yeah. That's like my cheap college buffet meal right there. I love cabbage in Korean soups and stews. I love kimchi. I'm not crazy about regular just raw cabbage.

Even if you slice it that thin, it feels like something that might be used as packing material in like a amazon package you know what you do i would say this you you slice a little bit of onion in there some white onion in there too just to get a little more flavor to it and it's also about how you dress it too because i'm look i'm not just eating here eating handfuls of dry raw cabbage that's disrespectful to my mouth i think i'm being i think i'm not being fair to cabbage i'm like oh you just like to eat it raw sliced up off the ground out of a brown paper box wash it yeah anyways my name's jack o'brien aka cuz i'm j-o-b yeah jack o'brien j-o, yeah, I host the Zite. J-O-B, I'm a power host. J-O-B, yeah, let's start the show.

That is courtesy of Hannah Soltis. Had to take it up a notch for the return of the great Hannah Soltis, at SoltisHannah on Twitter. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! That's right, because she's my wife. My life is better. Can't stay a fuckboy forever. Doing the boy rap voice All the time That's my wife

Okay, shout out to At Waffle House Christy on the coach, you mean Willie, thank you for that Also, I see a lot of people I think were doing it on Discord too I see the many versions Of this being submitted

Also, shout out to Bon Yobi As well Wait, Bon Yobi is a person on Discourse? Bon Yobi is the original artist, Jan Bon Yobi. Oh, okay. Yeah. One of the greats, Jan Bon Yobi. Well, Miles, we are

thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an actress, comedian, and the host of both the best Bachelor podcast on the national internet will you accept this rose as well as the amazing new podcast lady of the road you've seen her on insatiable she starred in the world premiere of steve martin's play meteor shower which is just a dope credit shout out to you she's been in basically every comedy of consequence shameless orange is

new black key and peel fresh off the boat uh if she's in something that you should be watching it She's been in basically every comedy of consequence. Shameless, Orange is the New Black, Key and Peele, Fresh Off the Boat. If she's in something, you should be watching it. Please welcome the brilliant, the talented, the hilarious, Arden Marie! I'm also a huge Jan Bon Jovi fan. Jan Bon Jovi. I feel so safe with you guys. I know you also love Jan Bon Jovi. We met on tour. We were following Yon Bon

Yobi. There's a bunch of Yobi heads out here. Totally Yobad. Did you have a Yon Bon Yobi cover band for your wedding, Miles? You know what's funny? I first saw that name when I was in a band

at this nightclub in this venue in Long Beach, they had the DJs that were spinning that week, and one of them was called Yanban Yobi. And I was like, that's the sickest name I've ever... That and Trillbo Swaggins. Oh, Trillbo Swaggins. Were the two.

And I was like, yo, this place is lit. They got Trillbo Swaggins and Yanban Yobi? Okay, yeah, I'm moving in. That's so good. What was your band's name at that time? Are you able to speak to it? Oh, yeah. It's called Ephemera.

Okay. L-I-P-H-E-M-E-R-A. And then Liv, the homegirl from the band, she does her own solo thing under Fem now, P-H-E-M. So shout out to her. Got it. What did you play? Played bass.

Okay. I didn't know that. You look at this man, you don't know that he's immediately, you don't know since the bassist inside. You know what I actually do? It completely makes sense. And again, now that he's got a wife, I see a bass player, you know what I mean? But now I see like, oh, he's got a ring on it. Yeah, you're like, oh, he's a producer.

He just plays bass in the band. He's a really low-key producer. Yeah, that's exactly right. That's exactly right. Yeah, yeah. It was a fun time. I love playing music. And it's funny, Arden, you bring up my marriage because one of the first moments of dread in my relationship with Her Majesty was when I ran into you.

So at the time, I was my my workplace romance such a secret. I didn't want anybody to know anything. And then I ran into you at a hotel in Palm Springs and I was like, fuck. Yeah. Like they fucking she fucking knows it's going to be like. Oh, but you know, I was not allowed to know. Here's what you need to know about me, though. I'm weirdly good at keeping a cone of silence.

If it's somebody else's story to tell, you can actually, I can be a vault and I will not be the cause of mischief to get something out. And see, and that's where the trust began with you and I. Yeah, I would never. I would never. I would never. I mean, this is going to be a spoiler from a few years ago, but on the second season of Insatiable, they told me at the very beginning of the season that I was this, spoiler alert, that I was the serial killer of the season. Spoiler alert, spoiler alert, spoiler alert.

Spoiler alert. And like nobody, none of the other cast knew. And like, and they were all like trying to figure out who it was. Alyssa Milano was convinced it was herself. And like, and I remember at the end, like the showrunner came up to like, I never told one person. And I remember she, so since then she's like confided in me about other things. She was like, I like, you're a weird little vault. So I'll hold anybody's secret.

I like that. Yeah. Well, I like what, what was, so I'll hold anybody's secret. What was it like, too, knowing that it's you and then having somebody else you work with be like, you know, honestly, Arden, I think it might be me. And you're like, oh, I love that. I love that for you. To have Samantha from Who's the Boss go, I think it's me. And I go, Samantha!

Was she Samantha? Yeah, she was Samantha. Yeah, she was Samantha. Yeah. Yeah, she was Samantha. Angela. That's right. Angela. Mona.

Mona. Mona. Mona. It actually felt exciting to go be having tacos in Atlanta with Samantha, who was like, I think it's me. And I actually, I was like, you know what? Really? Absolutely. It felt kind of fun it's like

yes and Alyssa Milano right probably is you're absolutely right you had to feel a little bit like you were the boss in that moment I feel like I actually changed my legal last name to I am the boss now I like when Alyssa Milano she figures figures out it's you. She's like, that motherfucker looked me in my eye and was like, yeah, that's cool. She's like, I hate Arden. Yeah. Making me look stupid. Or she's like, Arden's a great actor. Yeah.

She's the boss. Arden's the boss. Arden's the boss-ass actor. Does it ever backfire that you're a vault and people are like, all right, Arden, I hit a kid the other day. Yeah. With my car. Still in my trunk.

Yeah. I said, I panicked. I need your help, buddy. I panicked. I killed a person outside of Vons. Ah. Okay. All right.

Yeah. You know. Who are you texting? Who are you texting? Nobody. Yeah, nobody. I know. I feel like I'm actually feel like I'm somebody that people would call like from jail.

It's because I'm also very weirdly resourceful. Like I was raised very independently, kind of like figure it out. So like if you called me and you were in trouble, I could probably try to help you figure just like my scrappy upbringing. I would I would I'm a good person. I try to help you figure it out. And I wouldn't be like a street pickpocket. What do you mean? I was the art person to call. I try to help you figure it out. What were you like a street pickpocket? What do you mean? I was the artful dodger.

That's how I met Artie. Yeah. She was the artful dodger. I'm sorry that I did steal Jack's wallet at the Grove. At the Grove. He was outside the American Girl doll store on the trolley. Just my little fingers. Just pip.

He caught me. So I wasn't that good at being a pickpocket. But, you know, a beautiful friendship started between Jack and I. You pivoted quickly. I think you actually dropped it. All the cash was gone, but she left the credit card. So that was nice. I'm so sorry.

I think I just found this, sir. Then you're also like, why do you keep those Starbucks gift cards if they don't even have cash on them anymore? Yeah. How do you know if there's any value left? It's a keepsake. I like to make jewels, like a statement necklace out of them at some point. That's right. I've spent Starbucks gift cards.

All right, Arden, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. The police still don't know how to check if drivers are stoned or not. They're testing out a new device, but it's like, I don't know. We'll talk about it. It does not seem like a achievable task or it will inevitably be police arresting whoever they wanted to arrest in the first place. Because how you are high is so just based on who you are and how you interact with the medication. And we're going to talk about the early 2000s officially coming back on the fashion runway. All of that, plenty more. But before we get to any of it, Arden, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history?

Okay. It's my recent search history. I opened it up. And I would say the first thing that was interesting was I had searched Kim Kardashian age Pete Davidson age. All right. Yeah. What is that? what's their ages i think she's i think she's 41 and he's 28 i could be wrong but something like that it's something like that and i was here for it yeah yeah i loved it oh that that romance so i mean so tale as old as time pale as old as time yeah and then yeah it's interesting like how how people are slowly being like, I think actually Kanye is having a near illegal reaction response to her moving on.

Like, all the stalker type shit he's been doing. Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, it's just interesting. My brain also goes to, at a certain point, they're not documenting it. At a certain point, they're not in front of cameras. At a certain point, they're not having sex. When that is happening, what do they talk about?

Oh. Pete Davidson and Kim Kardashian? Yeah. What are they talking about? I feel like, hmm. He's like, hey, I'm'm gonna go buy some sneakers real quick cause he still lives with his mom right on Staten Island

is that true? yeah I think he still lives with his mom she visited him in Staten Island they went and saw Spiderman over the holidays yeah I think he still lives at home with his mom yeah do you think she's like so into like how like I guess comparatively like

norm core he is, you know, like that he like lives at home. Yeah. And it's like, oh, isn't that cool? Like, do you want to go

to that cookie place again? It's like Mrs. Fields at the mall. Yeah. There's an ice cream thing and they can fold in any topping you want. Right, right, right.

Anything. It feels like because the other thing they did on their date was like go on roller coasters. Not very farmed. Yeah. And then also go to Rite Aid and get ice cream. I'm starting like it's starting to give me real

the relationship and big vibes. Oh yes. Like he's just truly a child. Yes. Well maybe he's fun. I think by the end, maybe Kanye was less fun. Maybe it's like there's a simplicity of like we bone and we go eat ice cream. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, we bone and he doesn't put a sequins mask on. And we just watch TV. On himself or me. Yeah. Like like i feel like maybe that's like because at a certain point it seems like a lot of energy goes into being that cool right or you know like being a mega celebrity at a certain point you just want to be like i don't know man he went to go buy a chucky doll and he took my rolls royce to go get it like have you seen that picture of him like getting out getting out of her car with, like, a Chucky action figure?

Wait. Who is it? Who, Pete? Pete Davidson. Wait, what? Yeah. That's great. So he's like, hey, I got to go pick something up.

Can I drive your fucking Rolls Royce thing? I've seen him getting out of the Rolls Royce. I didn't. Yeah. It's really elevated knowing what was in his arm. Yeah. It'd be amazing if it had been in a baby Bjorn. was in his in his arm it'd be amazing to have been in a baby bjorn but yeah i don't know if he's like he pete davidson also strikes you the kind of guy who's

still not like still wrapping his head around the fact that he's with kim kardashian he's like i just can't believe it's you right you know this whole time wow i mean he's gotten a lot of ladies. Like he's, you know, one person just basically coins BDE about you and you are set for life, honey. Yeah, I know. You are set for life. Like you're just good to. It was like in high school that if like one of the cool girls like picked some rando guy, like who was not like the guy. guy like no like who was not like the guy once he was sort of a made man or a made dude like he was set like all all the girls would go after him so i think like i was like my yeah my freshman year this junior yeah in high school like we started talking on the phone she had a boyfriend

and they're like yo dude she's talking that freshman every night on the phone right and then people like hey bro you're cool man welcome to the circle i'm like hey thank you so much oh man i'm a virgin and i'm funny that happened to me in seventh grade with like an eighth grade girl and everybody just wanted to beat me up nobody thought it was cool it did cause me problems one time i was look full disclosure i had my wisdom teeth removed and i was selling my vicodin at parties. Oh, yeah. And I remember like the guy who she was with was like trying to get them for free and like G up on me. But other people in the school backed me up. They're like, hey, man, leave him alone.

Yeah. Holy shit. Now, how did it completely alter your high school experience? Were you like, did you have like ladies right and left? Not really. I had braces. When I got my braces off, that's when shit started popping off for me. were you like did you have like ladies right and left not not really i i have i have braces when i got my braces off that's when shit started popping off for me braces off popping off yeah that was my that was my like swan moment yeah i love yeah your family just picturing you walking in like

like matt dylan and something about mary when he's got his teeth capped. I just rewatched that. His teeth. He was so funny with his teeth. Oh, yeah. Because at that point, correct me if I'm wrong, we didn't know Matt Dillon could be funny. And to see Matt, like Matt Dillon was never funny before that. And to see Matt Dillon just all out with like those teeth.

Yeah. He was so funny. Pat Healy, that character, is an iconic film scumbag. Oh, my God. It was so good. Yeah. That movie is hugely important to me. Oh, my God.

As a comedy fan. It's like one of my favorite comedies. So full of shit, Pat Healy. It's so funny. I mean, I could watch Ben Stiller get tortured by people like for like 48 hours straight it is so funny how yeah the interrogation oh my god the interrogation after they catch all the dudes in the bushes and then like whoever made that press like the prosthetic and the zipper his dick and the zipper like i forgot how many people came into the bathroom to look at it. Right.

And I forgot, like, what preceded it with him, like, looking through the window. And Cameron Diaz was so great. She was so funny. When Keith David puts on his readers to check out the interview, you're like, yo. So good. Let me get a look at that. Oh, my God. Magda's tits.

Magda. Oh, my God. The dog. I hadn't tits. Magda. Oh, my God. The dog. I hadn't seen it. It was so, God, that is a funny movie. Ridiculous. Truly good. Truly good.

What is something you think is overrated? Okay, I say this. Ever since I was a baby, I've been a night owl. I am genetically wired as a nocturnal creature. I think being an early bird is overrated overvalued I think yes it's easier to it's easier to sort of succeed in society society if you like look at me if I'd actually gotten any sleep I could say that properly it's easier to succeed in society if you're like an early riser I I do get up. I'm exhausted all the time. But

there's something to be said. I am so fun. I was so fun at a slumber party. I am so fun from the hours from like 11 to 3. Like there's something, there's a magic witching hour. And it's not something you choose. It's just in your blood. And like, I think there's a real arrogance to like just genetic early risers. Right. That's what I'm saying. That's, I kind of feel the same. I can be like dead the whole day and then suddenly like find a burst of energy like at 10 p.m. That's right.

Because it's fun then. It's a fun time then. Because it's still one hour. Wait, so is it fun because you're like, everyone's asleep except us? Yeah. Or is it that you're like, I love sleep, so fuck the morning? I think I'm in my best spirits late at night. I have the most, I'm like, my creative juices are going the most.

I feel happiest, I think. I feel like kind of mischievous. Like, it's when I'm at my best and I think the world like doesn't value that. Right. And you go help all those people who gave, uh, entrusted you with their secrets. That's right. Hide the body. I gotta go.

I gotta go. I gotta go deal with the body. Clean up some evidence. I gotta go. Exactly. I've got, I've got all my ammonia in my car. I've got to go to different sites. Yeah.

Damn. That sounds like you got some experience. Well, I always say this because I had like a soot explosion at my house from a fireplace. And so I went like late at night to Home Depot. I was told like ammonia was going to help get it off of the walls and stuff. And the guy, it was like just me at 11 p.m. Like, but like the Eagle Rock Home Depot and the guy, I was like, hey, do you know where the ammonia is?

The guy that worked there, he looked like he was like 18. He looked at me, he goes, just make sure you use enough to knock them out. I was like, what? And then I added that, but I was like, whoa. And I started laughing. I was like, what if I was here for that? And he goes, Hank, I didn't see anything. Yeah, I didn't see anything.

I was like, oh my God, that guy's the vault. That guy's the vault. That's the sort of fun interaction you don't have when you go into Home Depot in the morning. Thank you. They're not going to be like fun and flirty and be like, ah, we're both serial killers. They're going to be like, over there, just like, leave me alone. Yeah, you know those fun, flirty serial killer interactions. Yeah, journal entry that night.

Here's journal. I finally met her. He understands me. This blonde woman with a high-pitched voice. Finally. I felt like neil the one here she's here she's finally came looking for the ammonia she's also a murder the downside of that is the only the only other people you find buying ammonia in the middle of the night at home depot are probably using it to clean up a mess.

Everyone's cleaning up a mess of some kind. Can I just say one more interaction I had at the Home Depot? So then I checked out. This is what you get at midnight at the Home Depot. I was checking out. And the moment I was like, how are you doing? To the security guard, it was this lady. And she's like, ugh, not good.

My coworker. I thought it just ended there. She's not good. See? Magic. She goes, my coworker, he just called me. He's like stuck somewhere. He's in a car. There's a bunny running around in his car, just like pissing and eating the seeds everywhere.

And he didn't have anything to clean it up. And I told him I'm not driving an hour to clean up the bunny shit. And I'm like, wait, wait, what? Like there's some dude dude like just some random bunny like what is happening and this maybe maybe this was just a figment of my imagination maybe I was just like tripping on ayahuasca and I never went to home depot that ammonia yeah yeah yeah that's what happened that's what happens if you're a night owl. You get jewels like that. Yeah. Not to just keep doing callbacks, but I do feel like Kim Kardashian and Pete Davidson have had that conversation before.

The bunny. Right. He's been like, there's a bunny loosing your car. It's shitting everywhere. It's shitting. What the hell kind of co-worker relationship is that that you call a co-worker to be like, hey, man. Bunny shitting everywhere okay there's a

bunny whose bunny is it like how did it get why isn't it like if it's your bunny why is it just running free around your car eating eating the seats and stuff like yeah yeah i was like that's like i think another thing on like kim kardashian and pete's everywhere. That's like, I think another thing on like Kim Kardashian and Pete's bucket list. She's like, you know what I've always wanted to do is go to like Home Depot like at night once. It's like, oh my gosh, like this is like, this is like the poor people's like supply store. By the way, it does not disappoint. A late night trip to Home Depot. I had two interactions.

Both of them were like champion level Olympic gold stars. I know. Amazing. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers,

church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration.

It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes.

Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity

or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.

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oh oh yeah like i'm not gonna go to splash mountain like they kind of look down on it like that cleanliness the hell they treat it sort of like it's a trashy outing it is i mean truly think about the joy you have felt at a freak like on a hot day at like a really insane water park they are so fun and like i think they are like like royal level like i feel like the queen of england like like you know kate middleton should go enjoy a water park. They should bring like dignitary. I think people treat them like they're like lowbrow entertainment. So fun. Right.

You're like there's nothing more luxurious than going to a water park is what you're saying. That's right. It's like something to aspire to. Yeah. Do you like water parks oh i love a water park right love a water park love a lazy river love anything at a water park yeah even the terrible food like i remember when um what is it uh what the fuck's the one at six flags called they have a hurricane harbor yeah thank you own brain hurricane harbor

when that opened up i remember being like oh, oh, we got to go to Hurricane Harbor. Like we got to try this shit out. And I, there's something about this smell of like, you know, near toxic levels of chlorine. Right. That like make me feel like I'm in heaven. Oh yeah. Maybe because I'm slowly dying. For sure.

But I really associate the two with being like, this is the sickest shit ever. And then eating like a stale ass cheeseburger yes oh a churro you know it's like you're also like scraping up your feet burning burning all of you know it's it's being like getting wedgies going down like really did i i have to be honest did you see the action park documentary i didn'thmm. I didn't see it, no. When I was a very, very young child, I got taken to Action Park. I went. Did you? Yeah.

Did you really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's your origin story. Oh, yeah. As a human and a lover of water parks. Did you also suffer horrific spinal trauma? It was so dangerous.

Because I was also, I had a lot of older, like, older brother, a lot of older male cousins. It was, like, me and the boys. Nobody's in a seatbelt. Thrown in the back of older like older brother a lot of older male cousins it was like me and the boys nobody's in a seat belt thrown in the back of like somebody's station wagon going driving to New Jersey like six hours it was so fun so dangerous like no supervision like I remember the boy you go through like a tunnel underground and just get shot out of the side of like a cliff that you just rock it and then fly down just i think i weighed like 40 pounds and like giant gentlemen from like mobster type guys from new jersey like landing on you it was spectacular spectacular no insurance no no class action lawsuit it's just like right you felt the danger and you knew the risk and it was like even as a young child it was just like this is living so you're still chasing that high i'm still chasing i started at the top and it's been disappointing ever since

oh yeah but it was great i love it i loved it yeah yeah There's a, there's a water park in ocean city, New Jersey that we go to every year. Talk to me. And it's got a children's section. Like I, I grew up going on the big slides. Obviously. Kind of a badass.

But you know, with a three year old and five year old, we, we stick to the pirates Bay area and it has like various pirate ships. And like, there's like little like holes you can run through that like have all Bay area. And it has various pirate ships and there's little holes you can run through that have all different water shooting at you

at different directions. It made me realize the kids in a lot of ways, the aspect of it where it's basically a playground that has water shooting at you and water cannons that you can shoot at one another like that i feel like is relegated to kids and could could be grown up for adults

because i feel like you don't see that as much on the adult side everything's more fun when water shot at you yeah the best what what did you guys do as children that like looking back was like oh that was really dangerous i mean i went to i was just thinking when you guys were talking about this place river country there was a disney property that was like rusty like hot i think it was like made designed to like kind of have that old-timey feel but you had to like swim through a very deep like river to get to the water slides and i was like did they like give you a swim test like how the fuck did like i get to do that like they must have just been pulling bodies out of there like on the daily oh like disney's just you know just flip them over into the non-river country side of the river.

Be like, I don't know. Gators will get them. That sounds fun. Yeah. I don't know anything I did that was, everything I did was traditionally unsafe. Great. Like, it was everything like, I had fun. And like, that was unsafe.

It was always like, we would start fights with skateboarders at the school and then and then like lure them into like a surprise attack in an alley with BB guns. Yeah. Or, I don't know, like just launch ourselves off of like a loading bay behind a grocery store in a shopping cart and then like shatter our bodies. That sounds fun. You know, jackass type shit. That sounds really fun. I haven't seen jackass yet, but I heard it was really fun. Yeah, I still need to see that.

Yeah. That BB gun thing sounds dangerous for everyone except you. I've seen you with a BB gun, Miles. You're a dead shot. You're the only guy who could bank it off of a curb and hit somebody. Shoot them from behind and hit them in the front of the leg. What happens if you get hit by a BB? It hurts. It hurts. It doesn't break skin but it doesn't wants to

but it'll you get a pretty fucked up welt depending on like how much you know the velocity is coming out of there but it was wild i remember yeah like it was all it was like back in the day you should be like yo fuck you and then like four people would chase you and you like got their ass wait till we get them in this alley and like we got smoke bombs and shit i don't know what the fuck we were thinking but it was fun for everybody oh yeah oh yeah because they wish i would get them before they chased you like that basically almost it felt like an 80s movie like we were basically in like mimicking 80s films like get the bullies into because one time they hit our friend in the face with the skateboard okay and that's when we're like oh okay it's

like that so every day was Karate Kid. It was every day was the Karate Kid. Okay. Fun. Yeah. I feel like that's true of a lot of people who grew up in LA. Like their childhood hijinks sound way more violent and scary than mine, which was like, I rode my bike on a really scary road that had cars going fast.

And me, I'm like, I was going through like encampments in the la river looking for a buried bag of weed when i was yeah well yeah 14 where did you grow up jack kind of all over the east coast of midwest so yeah like when i think of like real young like riding my bike on like state roads and shit that like shouldn't like didn't have a place for you to ride a bike on i'm thinking like dayton ohio wheeling west virginia all the all the highlights the places that you've have on your bucket list oh yeah oh yeah yeah obviously both great towns by the way all right well let's talk about about something else dangerous to do. Driving high for some people. For me, yeah. Mostly because I when I was the type of high person that would drive seven miles per hour tops and feel like I was speeding and also that everyone was looking at me. But, you know, I also know I have some good friends who have been using weed since middle school as like ADD medication and like aced their GMAT, like just high out of their mind because

like they are better at stuff when they're high. Right. So it really depends. That's the hard bit about trying, you know, as like more and more states legalize recreational cannabis you know the thing all law enforcement is like well how do we pull people the fuck over for being high while driving that's like the fucking white whale that law enforcement is searching for and i think in general a lot of people too even like stoners say look if there was a way for you to actually be like hey man motherfucker you're too high to drive because people would be like i've been so high i shouldn't drive most people just don't but if there was a way for you to actually be like, hey, man, you're too high to drive because people would be like, I've been so high. I shouldn't drive. Most people just don't. But if there was a way to say, verifiably, this person is too high to drive.

We've proved it with this test that doesn't rely on, you know, some guy's stepdad from the 70s being an asshole. Then maybe this would be like a fair application of the law. But as it stands, we just have things like blood tests that will measure like the amount of nanograms of THC in your blood. But since THC is fat soluble, it's not like alcohol, which is water soluble, that shit can stay in your system for weeks or maybe just a couple days or hours depending on your biology. So that's not really a good way to measure it. And also it only measures like how much THC is in your blood. It doesn't necessarily measure how impaired you might be. And then, you know, standard sobriety tests wield pretty wildly inconsistent results because, you know, some like you're saying, some people are completely fucked up, can be completely fucked up. Some people are normal and some people have fucking super strength somehow.

fucking super strength somehow. So the need for something that can measure someone's cognitive impairment that isn't like rife with cultural biases or discriminatory leanings of a police officer is like critical to have a balanced application of the law. So a few states, again, have said, well, maybe the blood test, the same thing, but even cops are like, that's not even close. Like this person looks sober. And then their blood said one thing. I'm like, that doesn't even feel right, even for the police. So there's a device called Cognivue, which is being touted as the solution to this problem. And it was first is developed as like a test for cognitive decline in aging people just to see like, OK, we can begin to see like their reaction time, like their ability to track things with their eyes. And that's where I was familiar with it from you making me take it after a couple of slow recordings. Right. And I'm like, Jack, come on

now, which one of these is not a real word. So that's what this like whole, this machine does. It like looks like a little laptop and it has like a jog wheel in the center of it. So it'll do things like ask questions, like literally which shape is different and show you like a few different shapes. So you have to discern which is different or like which word is real and you have to rotate the knob to like select the answer and if you take too long the test will just move on and like record that as like a non-answer or just begin to calculate what your impairment that's where i started having a panic attack was that part part where it was like, it'll just move on as you're going to the right answer? I was like, no!

Literally hearing this, the knobs and the moving on. I can't smoke pot because I am the full panic attack. Like, I go right to Middle Earth. I go right to, like, Smeagol. Like, if you don't hold on to my hand, I will slip to Middle Earth. Or if I don't, I'm like such a buzzkill. And everyone's like, I want to see you high. It's like, not if you want to have a good time, you don't.

So even just hearing that, this literally cripples me with panic. Oh, and it's, and it has like many different things, like little ways to make the test harder. Like the wheel will like be harder to rotate. They say as if it was in peanut butter. How dare you? Like, so just to like fully begin to like take advantage of as if it was in peanut butter. How dare you? So just to like fully begin to like take advantage of like, oh, is this throwing them off? Because the wheel moves a little bit slower than the first questions.

Then this one seems like super wild too. To see how well they respond to visual stimuli, they make like these flashing frantic dots and it'll instruct you, stay on the bright dots. And you have like a green wedge that you can hover over like with the rotating knob and you have to like put it over the white twinkling like dots or but don't mistake them for the gray ones around it and again these are things that are just meant to slowly see your reaction time and things like this so to test this like how well

this machine worked on this wired article they were like they these people got together in colorado a group of like cops from new york who were trained in something called their drug recognition experts which just sound like like the most annoying parents kind of thing like right oh we're we're trained to recognize when someone's drugged out and you're like oh really, really? Oh, yeah. They write those like lists that are like, here's what to look for if your kid is like smoking pot. Put a UV light on their tongue to see if they had edibles. Like, it's like literally shit like that.

So the cops, they did their thing where like they were looking at the same group of stoners, like a bunch of stoners volunteered for this. And they used their you know skills to figure out which who was high from there and then a lot of and then also the people used the cognitive view machine and the results were mixed because again it cannabis affects everybody so differently the cops attended to be when they actually looked at the data they were more lenient in their assessment than the fucking machine was like and a lot of the people the stoners involved they're like ah like it just seemed like like the cops are actually an easier experience for me to deal with than like the machine that felt like made me feel like i was completely failing at like like basic motor skills

but the thing that is sort of also tricky with this is about 40 percent of smokers like like stoners they think they drive better when they're high or at least they say they're more focused and aware which i i think anyone who smokes weed has heard that refrain very consistently like dude i don't drive faster i drive slower like i'm more aware and you know that that's a that's not the best sentiment to have when it comes to road safety. Like now when I smoke this shit and I go slow mo, I'm a better driver. But then you looked at this test and some people with the Cognivue machine, they were like outliers who performed better after smoking. So that was really fucking up.

Like the administrators are being like, fuck, like this guy looked stoned off his face. And he was like killing, he was crushing the scores, like even for like sober, like genius people we've used to like kind of get an average of how people respond. So all that to say is it's still a very, very tricky thing to figure out because there's really no one way to, you know, discern what someone's level of impairment is. Just hearing about that machine, it reminds me of going to the eye doctor. And when you have to look at that thing and they're like, click every time you see the squiggly line, you know that. And it's like, I just am so panicked about seeing the squiggly line that I feel like it does. The test always says that I can't see anything because I'm so panicking and clicking. Yeah. Whoever came up with that,

this this stoned driving thing, it feels like they just want everyone to fail. Right. Well, yeah. And I think that's the hard part is like even law enforcement and like other like district attorneys are like dude we don't have anything good to really be able to figure this out and that's why they're scrambling to figure this out because i mean i think at the end of the day like everyone's so into this idea of impairment and it and i mean not that everyone's so into it but like with things like alcohol it's pretty straightforward but with some substances such as this you know some people end up becoming fucking superman after smoking so it's like how do we what what is what is the way to to even

keep people safe right like unless you just trust stoners like hey man i get it dude you get it right like if if the person is good at this test after after smoking and like getting pulled over like you probably i wouldn't feel that bad letting them drive even if they were out like super high because clearly they have their shit together like that's what and then if you're wouldn't be good at this test like this test sounds bad enough to me to, like, if I smoked weed, I would never drive ever again. They'd take your license based on the cognitive test. I'd stop driving. I'd give away my license on the off chance that I would get pulled over.

I'll just steal it from you again at the Grove. I'll take it from you. Fair. Yeah. But, yeah, I think it's, you know, we're yet to figure out the best one. And I even like colloquial, as someone who smokes a lot, I'm like, I don't really know how, because like my balance is good. You know, sometimes I'll ask people like, you know, count to 30 in your head. Like, and I'm like, I have a pretty good internal clock.

So I'm not like it's, there's no real uniform way to do this unless they should just make this publicly available and everybody can go like get get high at the dmv then take this test and you can get a i i'm an okay stoned driver license i would never i am i would fail immediately right and that's why we shouldn't have our stoned driver's license. But Miles could test his luck. Yeah, because I do,

I mean, I think a lot of people get high and play video games. You know what I mean? And I'm killing it out there. Oh, yeah. So, I'm like, great. Another video game to play while i'm high say less officer like but right yeah it's not there uh they're they're still having trouble and you know i think as long as we have the you know carceral system as it is they're they're gonna do

their damnedest to try and find a way to make it like like this is it it's the most infallible test ever right and they're not like pinning this to a rise in like fatal car accidents tied to people driving stoned right it's just like in washington they did initially right after legalization they said oh my god look at all these like these like twice as many people are testing with thc in these like terrible car accidents but again that goes back to the thing of, that doesn't mean that they were stoned when they were driving. Some person could have smoked three days before and had like a certain amount of nanograms of THC in their blood.

Right. So that's not straightforward. And even then they said fatal car crashes were actually on a decline in that period where they were even looking at it. It just meant that now that you were looking for it, you have more data to suggest maybe more people use cannabis. But does that mean the same thing? Not always.

And I think that's what makes it so tricky. Yeah. Some people are way worse drivers. If you are one of those people, don't drive. But then also fewer people are like doing those. Have you ever seen those like dash cam videos of people like having shootouts on the highway? What? Like because of road rage incidents?

Oh, I saw that guy who like pulled a gun out of his center like because, like because of road rage incidents. Oh, I saw that guy who like pulled a gun out of his center console. I was like, yeah, just like firing at a guy who was also firing at him as he drove by. Like it was fucking. Yeah. I need to see that. America,

America, America. Like it's weird. Cause even as I saw him, I'm like, Oh, he's going for his gun. I'm like,

Oh, he's shooting out of his car window. And I was like, this is normal. Yeah. Yeah. And then was like, this is normal. with somebody in a Prius and the GOP guy was in a larger SUV type car, came back, rammed him, and then started firing his gun at the guy in the Prius. And the guy in the Prius just took him out. But, oh my God.

That also sounds like somebody who maybe should have tried smoky weed. Yeah. Oh, sorry. And the other detail of that is he had done the gop guy who got killed had done the exact same thing the year before what it was like wow he had a hobby yeah i'd imagine like yo anybody who's that reckless with their road rage i'm like you like keep an eye on them yes the most i do when i'm getting road rage is with my windows rolled up, go, what the fuck? Right.

No, I assume I'm going to lose a fight with anybody. So I, and you never know who's just looking like, just give me, give me a reason. You know what I mean? Give me a reason. Give me a reason. So, so I, I try to just, just push it down and deal with it yeah I like to be very approving of them

be like great awesome job oh that's smart reverse psychology fucking nailed it you nailed it I am a piece of shit have a great day I do that with trolls on like Twitter I remember people would sometimes people would be angry like if I would win like at, you would get an extra amount of like, I hate

her face. Why did she win? You know? And like, so then I would always just reply, thank, because they would at you, you know? So I would just write back and write, thank you with an exclamation point. And like, nobody knew what to do. I wouldn't engage. I would never reply again.

I wouldn't. But I think people were so confused. It's like, yeah, obviously I saw it so just right back thank you some of them would then reply and be like no i mean you know your face is okay i just yeah i just really like oh my god i didn't think you were gonna see it yeah i just really like nick soon i thought nick soon was pretty funny but you're okay too like yeah it was nice to meet a fan yeah thanks yeah that is i just it really is i think it's the best way to deal with a troll. Thank you.

Oh, yeah. Kill them with kindness. Kill them with kindness. There was like an epic one, I feel like a couple of years ago. It may have been Sarah Silverman where they're like, hey, man, it sounds like you're going through some stuff. And like a few replies later, the person just broke down and was like, hey, you know, to be honest, I am kind of going through a rough spot. Wow. Nobody really, I haven't really thought about it like that.

It was just like such a turn. And you're like, hmm, see? Everyone's hurting. Everybody's hurting. As that great R.E.M. song says, everybody's hurting. Everybody's hurting. Because everybody's hurting. Most of the time uh yeah all right let's take a quick

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No, it's like a... They were doing a survey of what's happening in the on the runways in Paris. I don't know if you've ever heard of that place. No, I'm sorry. Where? Texas. It's in Texas. Oh, yes. I love Texas. style prognosticators claimed the color of the year was going to be very peri, which is a pastel adjacent like purple periwinkle-ish. But according to people who are watching those runways, it's looking more like hot pink and

denim, baby. Ooh. Is that what you wore for your wedding, Miles? Yes. A hot pink and denim combo? Oh, a denim von dutch suit and a pink juicy bucket hat like did you have like a drag do you exchange dragon rings who did it i don't know what dragon rings are it's like a like a claw and like a dragon yeah oh yeah like a crystal ball yeah very yeah very uh like

hot topic hot topic yeah but yeah like all of these outfits i feel like can be traced to like i i included three pictures one looks straight up like something that i've seen paris hilton wear like for i saw her wear like in the early 2000s another is like a much more like fashion forward elegant reimagining of the britney spears justin timberlake all denim red carpet outfit right and then the other one i i guess they're saying is inspired by that music duo tattoo all the things you said running through my head yeah yeah but i don't know this feels just like it's this cycle is like works like basically like clockwork yep yeah like you can it's almost like i wish there was like a style stock market because you're like,

you know, in fucking 10 years it's going to be the teens. Yeah. Right. Remember 2010s fashion? Yes. What the fuck?

Yeah, for sure. I mean, but does that mean we're all going to have like thongs coming out of the back of our jeans like a boot cut jean? I think it does.

And like a juicy couture sweatsuit like a giant UGG. Yeah, I was wearing one yesterday as we talked about. Yeah. Juicy on the butt. Yeah, you are. Yeah, a little whale tail working. I don't... Like the...

Basically it seems like they appropriate like a handful of touchstones and then like update them to make them cool. The like thongs coming up above the pant line feels like one we maybe didn't need to bring back, but I don't know. Principal O'Brien. Okay.

I just, I got my, I got my ruler out. Okay. Watch out. It's above the knee is that come here, young lady. Yeah.

Yeah. I think there's going is that. Yeah. Come here, young lady. Yeah. Uh, yeah, I, I think there's going to be a, a boot, a real, I mean, there already is sort of a boot cut gene thing happening, but yeah,

it's going to be, you know, it is what it is. And we just keep, we can just keep rotating the cycles. I like, I know like firmly that I have a, a 2000 to 2005 like wardrobe just melting in my mom's garage oh yeah

and then i'm like fuck like is it and in my mind i'm always like is it gonna come back around to the point where i'm like dusting off my old academics jeans with the patches on them and they're like oh my god miles's fucking swag is out of control right now yeah and i'm like motherfuckers this is shit i wore when i was 19 but okay yeah i love it it's like bandana tops like you know the upside down triangle do you save any of your clothes arden um you know what i actually get rid of stuff i'm pretty good i have no closets like like my house was built in the 20s and it's just like so there's two little closets so that for like luggage and christmas stuff and coats so i i purge things but i've had i would

have had some fun i mean you know i like to dress up so i would have had fun blasts from the past right i can only imagine that you're like let me dust off my 2003 box oh oh yeah there could have been something but again i don't know if you want the actual real thing. I feel like there has to be a little bit of a twist, maybe. Yeah. And then there's also, it seems like, a resurgence in interest in those celebrities. Like the Britney re-adjudication that has happened in the last couple years, obviously. But then, like, they threw Lindsay Lohan in a Planet Fitness ad on the super bowl right and they were like what's lindsey up to and like lindsey's doing

great and just i don't know it felt like a very specific nostalgia play and then we talked about the paris hilton jimmy fallon nft appearance that took the world by storm right but i got yeah i again i'm hoping that one day there's that old box of clothes that will just passively make me a style icon again when i can just bring out all that old denim like i got a few denim full-on denim outfits you know because jean suits were like uh that was like a hip- staple. You had the baggy ass jean suit, denim jacket, iceberg denim jacket with the fucking jeans. I mean. Can I just say, whatever you wore at the Will You Accept This For Us live show, whatever situation, whatever that suit was with those dress shoes. And that once you then execute a full cartwheel on a slippery carpet with slick dress shoes.

It was a chef's kiss sight to behold. Was that a denim suit? If I remember correctly. No, no. That was a polyester leisure suit from the 70s. Right. Which, you know, I don't need to talk about the provenance of that outfit. But let's just say it's one to keep your eye on.

But yeah, I'm waiting for like big boxy white tees to come back. When is that era coming back? Oh, it's coming back. Wearing basketball headbands and basketball sweat wristbands all up your arm. Fun. To go out. That's how I would go to City Walk on a Friday night. Oh, I love this version of miles.

I would wear two headbands fucking crossed over. Oh, hot. Wow. Yes, I love this version of Miles. I will wear two headbands fucking crossed over. Oh, hot. Wow. Yes. I love headbands. That was like early LeBron, right? Oh, I mean, that was just the style then. It was just everything like it was in the 112 Dance With Me video.

Okay. You know, all of that. Velour suits. Do you have photos of the double headband at CityWalk? I'm sure. Like Bucca di Beppo or like Bubba Gump? What was happening? Bucca di Beppo had just opened.

Hot. And then Bubba Gump was still Gladstones. Okay. That's how old that shit was. Thank you. Yeah. For people who know the lore of CityWalk in Hollywood. Yeah, that was before all the girl gangs.

That's where girl gangs go to CityWalk, which is hot. Yeah. But it would just be me and the gangs, I feel like, go to City Walk, which is hot. Yeah. But it would just be me and friends and we would bring a camcorder and we would just scream like unintelligibly in the middle of a crowd to watch people like just be like, oh my God, what's that? Like, oh my God, let's watch our mixtape back at your mom's house. Yes. So, yeah.

Arden, is there an early 2000s fashion that you rocked that you would love to see come back? You know what? I have to say my favorite early 2000s. I remember, I don't want to brag, but may I swear? Am I allowed to swear? You may. Oh, yeah, motherfucker. I played a very unfuckable young lady in a teen movie with, I played Jake Gyllenhaal's

like loser girlfriend in a teen movie with Jared Leto and Selma Blair. Yes, Highway. Highway. And it was sort of like, who would want to be with her? And I had a little red bob and bangs and whatnot. But I remember we were filming in Vegas. And I remember bringing, I got clothes for Vegas, honey. And I had a few. By the way, like none of them hung out with me.

And I had like, I had a few looks, all variations on the same thing. Tube top. And then kind of like a low, almost like a Christina Aguilera, low-waisted, high-slit, long, like A-line skirt with like a giant, chunky, wooden wedge heel. But it was sort of a Christina Aguilera, like a tube, like two tubes, but like some belly showing low on the hip. Like, yeah, kind of a genie in a bottle. I was like rocking that kind of a vibe. And I loved it. It was like a pashmina, just killing it.

Aguilera is the conspicuous name missing from my list of like the fashion icons of the time. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The Dirty Video. Oh, that song. Oh, that song was at my birthday party where we had karaoke. That is at the now defunct. It was like at Garagult.

There was a karaoke, a Japanese restaurant also had karaoke. I just sang Dirty over and over. I was like the drunk birthday girl. As you do, because I was classy. My ex-girlfriend is the one boxing her in the video. Icon. You didn't tell me you dated an icon. Oh, man.

Yeah. Like I'm saying back, that was peak miles. Like you want to talk about where I was at with pop culture. I was up in that shit. Because you got chosen early by a cool girl, honey. So you had the confidence to date a boxer who would fight Christina Aguilera. When you're in a foot rub,

when you are competing to rub Christina's feet right next to her choreographer, it doesn't get much lower than that, folks. Oh my God. Being like, what about my technique, Christina? That's like, I think I thought about that shit the other day. I was like, I was really out here trying to impress her with like a foot rub.

Wait, did you rub Christina Aguilera's feet? Yeah. Yeah. I've rubbed her feet. Do you know how many pervs would be like pay like thousands and thousands of dollars? I want to know.

I know they want. Why was that your job as the boyfriend of her? Shit's weird when in a celebrity entourage, it's fucking weird. I'm going to just say it like that, like to the point where nobody does what they want to do because they're so worried about what the, you know, the focal point of the entourage wants to do. Like, I remember being there so late at night and like, you know, because at the time the person I was dating was really close with her and be like being like, hey, let's play more fucking, you know, because at the time the person I was dating was really close with her.

It'd be like being like, hey, let's play more fucking, you know, scattergories. It's like it's 3.30 in the morning. Right. And like I have class tomorrow. And I'm like, can we go? And she's like, not until she goes to bed. I'm like, why? This is fucking weird.

So you were like turtle and entourage. Oh, yeah. Yeah. One hundred percent. With the matching kick game, too, because my sneaker game was on point. Thank you. Thank you. That's interesting. It is interesting. It is. You're right. The center point. And I think to this day, the center point dictates the whole ride. Yeah, it's a weird energy, too. And like, you know, and like I remember back then I was around for like months before Christina actually would say hi to me. I was around for like months before Christina actually would say hi to me.

Right. Because she's like so used to, I think, people being like, you know, pursuing friendship like for their own means. And I was just like, dude, there's like, you let me eat stuff out of your refrigerator. Like, I'm good with that. I'm broken in college. So this is like the best thing ever. How tall was she? She's like 5'1", 2. Yeah, pretty tiny.

She's little, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Exciting. One, two. That would be too tiny. She's little, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Exciting.

Not to get competitive here, but my wife competed against Christina Aguilera in a mall talent contest. Oh, yeah. Pennsylvania, right. Wait, what? Yeah. Yeah. What? Yeah.

My wife was a child prodigy on the violin and piano. And people were like, no, we like Christinaina aguilera better why don't you go to your at your concert hall loser we're gonna this is the mall but i'm playing a stradivarius outside of orange julius work right like read the room or at cinnabon that's right i do wonder if the because the christinauilera dirty video made me think of, do you remember, Miles, when we did that live show where we were looking back at fashions from the early 2000s? And there was that one picture where Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston were on a red carpet and looked like they had just been mud wrestling. I know that photo. Yeah. They looked so filthy.

As high as a kite. Yeah. But is that, I wonder if that's going to come back to looking. I hope the Kate Gosselin, I hope Kate Gosselin hair comes back. Oh. Right? Covering one eye. Yeah, just one eye with like spiky in the back and like exactly that would be

like if you wanted to be really like normcore like that is a bold move to be a model who cuts your hair like early john and kate plus eight right before john goslin with his with his all the ed hardy stuff yeah yeah and he has been my fashion icon for a long time. So it's cool that you mentioned him. That's actually why I set it up for you. I was a lob over your own plate. It was an alley-oop. It was an alley-oop. I like you, Jack. I wanted you to be able to speak freely, but not feel like a bragger, you know? I got, of course, I'm here for you. Arden, as always, such a pleasure to be around you, to hang out with you, and to have you on TDZ. Oh my God, it's so fun.

I love being on, I love your podcast. I love you guys. Hey, speaking of fun, tell us about your new podcast. Oh my God, well, it's actually Anna, your producer. Anna Hosnier and I, we- Never heard of her. You know, she's real cool. Anna, the best.

Oh, Anna. Anna, Anna. Anna. She's the producer of my Will You Accept This Rose podcast. But we have started, we just launched this brand new podcast called Lady of the Road. It's also on iHeart. And my co-host is Julianne Robinson, who is the director and executive producer of Bridgerton. So our energies are kind of different. And basically we talk to women that we admire and we sort of get advice about

like how they pushed through their own blocks to sort of become the badasses they are. So our first guest was Joan Jett, which was amazing. I mean, my whole inner monologue was like, just pretend you're not you are and just calm down. Don't be you. But it was interesting. Like her story was, you know, she's the first woman that ever started her own record label. And she did it because no company would sign her because she was a woman and women didn't rock. And she ended up, you know, she'd been touring. She'd obviously like a in a teen band an all-girl teen band but like she had this album and like she was selling out shows and she was selling the records on the back of her car the trunk of her car and eventually they just decided

to do it themselves and she ended that album had like bad reputation i love rock and roll, like, like five or six iconic number one hits that she's owned all the tracks to, but she did it because nobody would sign her and you know, that she still has stage fright and she pushes through it. And so it's people like that. We talked to Nicole Byer about how from her very early days, how she always learned to advocate for herself. Even when she had no credit, she would ask what other people were being offered for like their salaries. And she would always say like, I want to at least make what the other people are making. Like again, talking to these cool women, but about stuff of like how they've learned to speak up even when it's uncomfortable. Cause I get, I get anxiety and I get nervous about things. And it's been, you know, we talked to Retta.

We talked to Kate Micucci and Ricky Lindholm, Jen Kirkman. Our next guest is Adjoa Andow, who is Lady Danbury on Bridgerton. She staged the first all-Black female King Richard production, which was, like, revolutionary. She was a young punk living in England, too. It was just all these cool women about how they got to where they are. And it was how they pushed through their risk. And it's such a great podcast.

It's fun, but it's also informative. And it's with all these cool different women. And I mean, or you could listen to one of the 40 podcasts of, you know, white guys talking about how they made it in stand up. Yeah. So, like, then I got passed at the store. Yeah. Immediately.

I can still remember that. Yeah. Like, right away. Yeah. Somebody told me to go to this stage. I went there and they were like, hey. They were like, hey. You know what?

It was funny because I had just been, I was getting high with Pauly Shore the weekend before and he remembered me. Yeah. And you're like, oh my God. Retta's was great because Retta always wanted to be an actress. And she only did stand up because it was like, it was, she was actually like, I believe she was studying to become a doctor. Anna, is that correct? actually like i believe she was studying to become a doctor anna is that correct but she but she started doing it at night and because she saw that at the time when she was growing up all of the women okay let me take okay so she was pre-med and at the time all the women

who had their own sitcoms were stand-ups so like a rosanne or something like she was like she was like okay so first i need to become a stand up. Like and then so she did it. She won these contests. And like that was how she sort of started on her acting career and that she would still get huge anxiety about auditioning. But it's just how she's learned to sort of push through. It's I love hearing about that. You know, I just assume I always sort of judge my insides by other people's outsides and go like, oh, it must be so easy for them. And it's like, no, she still

has like fear of like auditioning. But here's what she does to prepare to like push through to get to her goal, which is like these cool acting jobs. So it's interesting to hear how people deal with the things that they have and push through and become the people that they are. It's very interesting. Yeah. A must listen. It's a must listen. It's a must listen. And Anna's on it. Amazing. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? They can find me on Instagram and Twitter at Arden Marine, M-Y-R-I-N. There's a, can I say an Instagram platform I've been enjoying? Sure. Yeah, please.

I love the Queer Indigo. It's this guy who lives in Berlin and he spreads queer joy with viral, like, he does these walks with his friends and they like dress up and he, he does all these sort of, they take over cities and he and his friends do these like runway walks that are like perfectly choreographed and just celebratory and joyful and it's sort of gender fluid and the clothes are fabulous and he's like fierce and it's, it just always makes me happy watching this person. And, and that is, I love, I love, check, if you don't know the Instagram Instagram account, the queer indigo, it's one of my absolute favorites. A little visual bleach. Yeah. For your feed. Miles, where can people find you? Follow you.

What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray and also the other show for 20 Day Fiance with Sophie Alexandra talking 90 day and all kinds of reality nonsense over there. A couple of tweets. I like personal. Let's go hyper local because I was talking about City Walk. I got a shout out at Americana memes. The Americana brand memes account. It's a picture of the rescue rangers from the trailer.

And the caption just says, this is every party in Highland Park. It's like the visual of it. I'm like, this is every party in highland park that's for all my angelinos out there and then uh hamburghini mercy at corn like the band tweeted wandering around my house with a bong like a victorian ghost with a candle yeah yeah about that one i also had that one this is oh man you keep taking taking my man no fair dude you keep taking my fucking no fair let's see jame at video jame tweeted writers love saying things like he had a toothy grin what is a toothy grin just making shit up he walked feet fetally into the kitchen that's how you sound i feel like i need to give a tweet can i give one tweet yeah sure okay this was the winner of tweet of the week yesterday that's up today on will you accept this rose on the uh really vanilla season of The Bachelor.

The guy who we think The Bachelor looks like a centaur. And he was on a date with the woman that he gave the first impression rose to who confided in him that she was a virgin. And you've never seen a man perk up. Like he's ignored her all season until now. So she got the first impression rose. He's ignored her. And then like he found out she was a virgin and that she got the first impression, Rose. He's ignored her, and then

he found out she was a virgin, and that she's not saving herself for marriage. She's just like saving herself for love. He's like, what do you mean love? So then this tweet just made me laugh so hard. It was Neil Pachel at Peel Nachel.

Clayton going, I gave her the first impression rose and now I'm going to give her this first impression dick. It just made me laugh. Oh my god, it just made me laugh so hard. Oh my god, it's just like this ding dong

who could not hide his palpable excitement. Okay, we see you're in love. How do you know you're going to be in love? Could you be in love in like four days? Oh, no. And then there's like in the moment of him going,

you know, just to think that I, you know, I could be her first love and other stuff. And other stuff? He said that? Oh, my God. It's bad. That made me laugh.

No worse, no clearer red flag than some dude who's like, virgin? Oh, wait, sorry I've ignored you

for the last eight weeks. You know, just had I known. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What's the mind of someone where that's like the best thing? Oh, someone who doesn't know what they're doing. Oh no. Yeah, oh no yeah yeah yeah all right you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes on our footnotes where we link off to the information

that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song are we linking off to in the oh one of my favorite artists steve lacy who's a guitarist and producer uh i believe from chicago and he's been like he plays with so many of my favorite artists. You know, you've heard him on like things from Tyler, the creator, Cali Uchis, and just he's just one of these like ever present talented musicians. This is a track called Some, and it's just got like this like lo-fi funk DIY vibe to it, like with the sampling and just kind of like the, you know, the, just like the fuzz on like the guitar and bass and things like that. So it's just a really great track. I

encourage everybody to listen to Steve Lacey's music because it's fantastic. So this is Steve Lacey with the track Some, S-O-M-E. All right. Well, the Daily Zyka is a production of iHeart Radio. For more podcasts from iHeart Radio, visit the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk to you all then. Bye. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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