The Daily Zeitgeist - STOP LYING ABOUT IMMIGRATION, Travolta = Gotti = Academy Award 6.18.18

Episode Date: June 18, 2018

In episode 171, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Naomi Ekperigin to discuss the recent drama with Tesla and Elon Musk, the outrage over Trump's administration separating immigrant children from their parents, Ted Cruz and Jimmy Kimmel's basketball game, MoviePass's terrible new film 'Gotti,' a World Cupdate, and more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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A.K.A. Gray Parler The Ronford Pele A.K.a. Cristiano Reynaldo, a.k.a. Zayt Gangzidon, a.k.a. Diego Maradona Summer, because I work hard for the money. And that's a little football, a.k.a. inspired action for you. By me. That I just did in a caffeine-induced panic moments before this recording. Hey, it was good. It seems like you've been working on it all weekend, and we are thrilled to be joined by an actor, a comedian who you've seen many times, perhaps on Two Dope Queens. She's a television writer for shows like Broad City, also a co-host of an upcoming show on

this very network. Please join me in welcoming Naomi Ekper again. Hey! Hey! What's up? How are you? You know, I'm doing all right. I'm doing all right.

It's Monday. We're reconnecting. You know, we're reconnecting with expectation. We're reconnecting with showing up. We're reconnecting with our God. Wow. You know what I mean? So it's a moment.

It's a moment. And in this context, who is your God? Probably Teresa Guadici. Oh, yes. Yes, yes, yes. Giudici? I don't know, honey. On the show, there was like, Giudice. Oh, is it Giudice? Well, I feel like in Italy, they would probably not be saying that.

Giudice. All I know is, you know, Teresa, she's been through it. You know what I mean? She's an ex-convict set it off style. Yeah. And she's back. Best body ever. And so I need to channel that energy.

That comeback energy. She is ripped. What did she go to jail for? Was it like fraud or something like that? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Scam life.

Naomi, before we get into your search history and all that good stuff, we like to give our listeners a summary of the show. We're going to be talking about Tesla. Tesla just seems to always be in the news for the wrong reasons, specifically Elon Musk. We're going to be talking about MoviePass releasing their first movie over this weekend. Big hit that I'm sure everybody has seen, so we can speak knowledgeably about it. I'm sure everybody has seen, so we can speak knowledgeably about it. We're going to continue to talk about the Trump administration's just awesome policy of separating children from their parents. They even have a playbook for how to do that now. And ask the question, is it time to just start fighting people? Just start fighting people.

We are going to talk about the greatest matchup of one-on-one basketball that went down over the weekend since Jordan versus Bird in that Nintendo game. We are going to talk about actual seismic activity following Mexico's victory. I think it was actually their goal. And we'll talk about some other sports news. But first up, we like to ask our guest, Naomi, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? Well, I recently searched this weekend for best pancakes near me, which is my truth. You know, I love a breakfast. I love a carbohydrate. You know, the weekend is the only time you get to have the pancakes, the French toast. Because the way I eat them, honey, you have them, then you got to nap it off.

Yes. You know what I mean? You can't do that during the week. You can't take that hit. I mean, you can. Do you want to keep your job? Exactly. You know what I'm saying?

Do you want to keep it? Well, yeah. And I've been told I can't do that. Miles does a lot of morning napping at work. I get it. Waking up takes a lot out of you. He has the breakfast siesta and then the lunch siesta. Yep.

Yeah. That's the only way. Wait, so what did you end up on? Like, where'd you go? Square One, which is a place on Fountain. Okay. And they were like, you know, it's like, they're only open like eight to three. So it's like only breakfast.

You know what I mean? I have a couple of sandwiches, but I mean, they, and you know what? Those pancakes did not disappoint. That French toast did not disappoint. Yes, I did create a scenario where I could have both. It was a grand slam. I made the person with me order the other.

Gaslit them and be like, you probably want those. I was like, what do you think? Are you in the mood for that? Why don't we do that and then we just split? You know what I mean? I'm diabetic. They're like, no, no, you're good. I'll take the syrup. Don't worry about yeah. Why don't we do that and then we just go, bam! You know what I mean? They're like, I'm diabetic. They're like, no, no, no, you're good. I'll take the syrup.

Don't worry about it. The bread won't kill you. Pitting for the sweet breakfast carbohydrate trifecta. Yes. What's the third one? Oh, waffles. Yeah, waffles. Pancakes, waffles,

French toast, boom. So you're French toast and pancakes over waffles. Yes. I am with you. Thank you. Wow. Thank you.

I feel seen. Well, have you had a Japanese pancake yet? No. See, that's the wave that I am with you. Thank you. Wow. Thank you. I feel seen. Well, have you had a Japanese pancake yet? No. See, that's the wave that I'm trying to get people on. I forget what guest was in here talking about it first, but we were talking about Japanese pancakes. The Japanese pancake

is the most decadent kind of pancake you can have. Now, I'm trying to think of I always have been eating them at my house as a kid. My mom would make them. And you can buy the mix in stores. and I will give you that link later on. But I think at the new Otani Hotel, they do make Japanese-style pancakes here IRL at the restaurant. Describe them for us, Miles. They're fluffy.

They're like a cake, basically. I mean, like, I'm going to show you a picture. It's, like, dumb thick. Is it thick like Thanos? Yeah, thick like Thanos. Okay. That's the kind. Yes, ma'am.

Thanos? Yeah, thick like Thanos. Okay, that's kind. Yes, ma'am. And you will be having to put on your gauntlet after you try this thing because that or some kind of blood pressure cuff. Wow. What do you pour on it? Just syrup, butter, you know what I mean? Do it normal, but it's the texture and everything else, it's the flavor

within that I think you'll enjoy. Naomi, are you butter, syrup, all of it? Do you put fruit on it? What's your favorite pancake topping? Butter, syrup, you know what? What I'm really feeling myself? Whipped cream, baby! Because then you just had dessert.

That's a born-in dessert. Do you ever do the griddle and get their obscene pancakes over there? I haven't been there. You haven't been to the griddle? No. On Sunset in Fairfax? No. Okay, well I'm going to have to write this down for you two. I'll do do that one, too. Please. Well, yeah, and people line up, and most people get, like, the just wild, just, like, hubcap-sized pancakes. Yeah.

Ugh, I love that. I'd never finish them, though. I feel guilty. Really? Yeah, yeah. Like, I think you'd never finish it, but I'm always like, exactly, you can't. I want you to sauce them up. Yeah.

Serve them up. No way. No going back. That would be interesting to try and reheat. Resurrect a butter and make syrup. You wouldn't be able to pick them up with a fork. What is something you think is overrated? Okay.

Will it surprise you to say that I think that salads are overrated? Considering we just had a long conversation about pancakes. I'm not surprised because salads are overrated. I feel like everyone's always trying to get me to have a damn salad as a meal. I don't believe salads are meals. You can have that shit on the side. You can

whet your appetite with a light balsamic moment. Okay. A balsamic moment. The act of eating salads makes me feel more like a cow than if I were to just have a burger. In that, I got this lettuce, and it's always too big. And just when you got to shove a fork full of just dry leaves or lightly dressed leaves, I hate it. It feels like I'm being punished.

Yeah. No, absolutely. I love a salad, but, yeah, as a meal hate it. It feels like I'm being punished. Yeah. No, absolutely. I love a salad, but yeah, as a meal, it's tough. Oh, come on. It's so tough. What do you mean, oh, come on over here. Nobody loves salad. I do.

See? I like eating salad, but I'm not here to say that salads are underrated or anything. I just fuck with salad. But yeah, the only way I can make salad a meal is when pretty much there's just so many other things on top of it like 300 eggs or a steak or salmon

are you putting like hot I hate hot I can't do hot no I hate cold meat though I don't like the cold chicken chunks you know when you go to most places

yeah the worst I'm like that's not good but then I know I need to put a protein on it yeah yeah right and then you don't like that mixture of the hot

with the cold with the welted leaves. Exactly. It wilts. A welted leaf. I don't even know what we're advocating for anymore. Oh, God. I'm just going to eat raw eggs.

Isn't a dinner salad, if you say dinner salad, isn't that implied to be just like a small side salad that you have with dinner? I think, right? Right. I assume dinner salad meant I'm having salad for dinner. Or does that just mean well I'm just thinking that like it's salad is so not a meal that they called dinner salads and it's well it's so much water but if you really think about how like I've surprised myself when I've just bought

like a whole just case of arugula yeah and then I'm like I ate the whole thing in one sitting because it's just water. But from one quick Google search, Jack, a dinner salad, it seems like off the search history or what comes up on Google, they're trying to say, like, this is a main course salad. Nah, they're wrong. Google, once again, wrong. What is something you think is underrated? You know what? I have a lot of loves, you know, that are, I don't know, fringe, if you will. I have a lot of loves, you know, that are, I don't know, fringe, if you will.

However, I really want to bring something to the fore, you know, for this audience, for America, for the nation. Oh, we need it. We're not talking enough as a community about the novels of Jonathan Kellerman. And look, these are books that maybe your mom reads. They are, however, as people are more and more obsessed with true crime, you know what I mean? Kellerman, okay, these are mysteries. But we are seeing, it's really procedural in tone. I'm a big fan of his Alex Delaware series. And that's about a child psychologist

who keeps getting ensnared in the police's work. Because Alex Delaware is best friends with Milo Sturgis, who works at the LAPD. Yes, L.A. is a character in the books. And now that I live here, I'm really, I have a new appreciation, you know, for when he's trying to find the best times to get from the west side to the east side to catch someone. Is that even in there? Yeah.

He'll literally be like, it's four o'clock. We're not going to make it. Four o'clock, yeah. That's a great detail of realism. I guess he's going free. Exactly. Because I'm not driving in that. We'll have to interview him in the morning.

And it's like, he skipped town. He went to Glendale. It's going free. Exactly. Because I'm not driving in that. Like, we'll have to interview him in the morning. And it's like, he skipped town. He went to Glendale. It's so good. And they're really quick and, like, easy. The Los Angeles-ness of that is just like, well, we can't not talk about the traffic. Also, I'd be like, yo, police, fuck out of here. You better go do your fucking job. Right.

You're not like me, where I'm like, well, I don't want to go to Silver Lake right now. Like, that's different than, like, there's a murder suspect. But also, five is a mess. So does him being a child psychologist, does that come into, like, does he always have to, like, at the end to catch the bad guy, he has to, like, trick some kid into, like, giving him, like, the password? The murderer's always a kid. Or, like, the murderer is being guarded by a child or something who he has to outwit. Well, that's the thing.

Half the time, yes, a kid will be involved. And the rest of it, it'll be like, and I don't know why Milo at the LAPD constantly needs him. But it's like, he's a child psychologist, but he's just smart. You know what I mean? He's constantly taking jogs up Laurel Canyon and then being like, I'll stop in this house

and get some evidence. And he goes above and beyond. He has a lot of free time. He's in private practice. So he's being like, I'll stop in this house and get some evidence. He goes above and beyond. He has a lot of free time. He's in private practice. So he's just like, I'm going to go see what I can get done on this case for you while I'm going about my business. Where does he live? In the book. Do you know? He's on the west side, like Beverly

Glen or something like that. He's got a fancy. Oh, he's very fancy. Oh, he's living in the hills. Yes, yes, yes. He's very fancy, which I now know, knowing what that means. See, I'm starting to like this just because it's so specifically LA. I'm like's very fancy. Oh, he's living in the hills. Yes, yes, yes. He's very fancy, which I now know, knowing what that means. See, I'm starting to like this just because it's so specifically LA. I'm like, well, and where does he live? And where do his kids go to school? Oh, he's single?

It was great. I was reading Breakdown. I just finished his, not the newest, but the second newest. And where he's like, he goes to Culver City. And then Milo calls him. He's like, we got to go see someone in Culver City. He's like, I was just there. And he's just like, I get it.

I was like, motherfucker, we're trying to solve a crime. Exactly, you don't have to come back. So much sass, he's like, I'm not going out there for it. He's like, I was just there. You should have told me because I already came back. He's got, so for people who aren't near Google right now, Jonathan Kellerman,

his covers appear to be just that boilerplate crime fiction paperback cover with giant his name, then giant title. And then the image always is like an inanimate object that's sort of blurry or something. Well, you're also always getting like some sort of like a cityscape, a blurry street, you know, a blurry house, a blurry backyard. Never a person's face. No, no, no, no.

The Golem of Paris, why would I read that? I'd rather read Billy Straight because that has the fucking observatory, Griffith Observatory on the cover. I'm only going to read the ones that have very L.A. covers. And I think I'm going to read something now because I don't read books like that enough. Or at all they're very fun not my favorite name

of a fictional character Alex Delaware Alex Delaware come on it is pretty late and like Milo Sturgis sounds like the problematic radio show version of me

what's up y'all it's your boy Milo Sturgis hey let's do a quick immigrant count how many of you got detained dope

like that sounds like the kind of dude who would celebrate that kind of shit and finally Hey, let's do a quick immigrant count. How many got detained? Dope. That sounds like the kind of dude who would celebrate that kind of shit. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? You know, I didn't want to have to bring it up. I'm trying to stay positive. But I think a myth that I think we all, I just want us to all agree. Some people do, some people don't.

The myth that Los Angeles is a city. It is truly a community of strip malls that we traverse. It's a community of strip malls that we traverse. It is not a city. You can't get a meal after 10.30 except for a handful of places. Now, Miles, you're looking at me. I know you probably got a list of 20 restaurants in your head where I can eat after 11. But I'm telling you, my experience,

it means I would have to get in a vehicle and cross townships. You know what I mean? When I'm walking the streets of Los Angeles, there aren't people on these streets. There aren't lights on these streets because they have not planned for human movement. All right.

That's some suburban shit. And I feel like if we would just say, if somebody just said to me, okay, you're going to move to this suburb where for some random reason, most of film and television is created. I would have said, great. I'm going to leave my sneakers at home. We're not going nowhere. We ain't walking. You know what I mean? I would have said, great, I'm going to leave my sneakers at home. We're not going nowhere. We ain't walking.

You know what I mean? I would have said, great, I'm going to save up my money so I can get a fancy house because if I'm going to do the suburbs, I'm going to do it right. Right. You know? But I was led to believe I was moving to a damn city. And then realized I couldn't get anywhere on public transportation. Right.

Yeah. Basically. Yeah. Let me sit tight. The purple line should be up in about seven years. And from that point, you'll have cursory access to Beverly Hills adjacent areas. Right. Not Beverly Hills.

No, no, no. No, not there. Well, everyone in Beverly Hills has been the biggest fucking blocker for having worthwhile public transportation because they've always been like, they're the most nimby of not in my backyard type people who are like i don't want blue collar people to yeah getting off on my area right and beverly hills is kind of in the middle of it like it's not you got to get through yeah if you want to reasonably you know wilshire right there just take wilshire all the way down really Beverly Hills. Once again. Beverly Hills. Once again, just our favorite place here on the Zeitgeist. So to you, for a city, what's the biggest thing?

If you could just Wizard of Oz this shit and snap your fingers and give LA one thing to make it, to improve it and make it the city that you need, what is it? 24-hour public transportation. Okay, that's one thing. Okay, great. Yep. There you go. All right. Boom. Answered. No, that's true.'s true yeah you know i'm gonna start a list and i'm glad you cut me off there's also there's also these weird weekends where sometimes it's a holiday weekend sometimes

it's not a holiday weekend but like nobody's around for some reason maybe like the weather's bad or something and that's when i love la because like you can just like drive wherever you want and it like you never get stuck in a traffic or as i know it la before all y'all came right right but yeah that's that's why like all my local friends when it's like thanksgiving christmas time when all the transplants like go to see their families and we're like yes right look at this stretch your leg keep it Keep it real. All the broke people who can't afford to go home can also enjoy the city at this time. But yeah, like it's so funny when you actually see, when you get an idea of people who actually go

or like are traveling and sort of get to experience the city without traffic, it is something else. Yeah. If you lower it by like 30%, just 30% less traffic, it works. It's just that they're always choked. That's why I just want to tell people, look, unless you have the brawly comedic skills like Naomi, don't come out here. Don't waste your time.

Or else all you're going to be doing is asking me what I want when you work at Zancou Chicken. All right. Let's talk about what's going on today. Over the weekend, Tesla was trending for the wrong reasons, I would say. What now? So in a bit of bad luck, one of their cars started shooting flames out of the bottom. Oh, right. Not intentionally.

How? It's a fucking electric car. I know. I mean, I'm using my no science brain to be like, well, then that's impossible. But I'm using my no science brain to be like, well, then that's impossible. But also it happened to be the car of the actress Mary McCormick, who you know from Private Parts and West Wing. And it was her husband's car and nobody was hurt. But then, you know, there was a great photograph of the car with just flames firing out of the wheel wells. What? To the point that it almost looked like something that would be dope to have if it was happening

on purpose. Like a poster on a 13-year-old boy's wall. But it was not Back to the Futuring. It was just accidentally catching on fire. And it just seems like Tesla, I felt like this was as good a time as any to bring up the fact that Tesla is just kind of in this run of bad news with Elon Musk just being an asshole. He laid off a bunch of people recently because he overpromised on his production goals. He had an earnings call where he just talked shit openly to people for asking straightforward questions about the goals and the things that you're

supposed to- What do you plan on doing as CEO? He was like, your questions are boneheaded. It's like, okay. Wait, I'm sorry. Did he say boneheaded? Boneheaded. Yes.

Okay. Okay, bonk from TurboGrafx-16. I know, seriously. He claimed that he does not promote unsafe working conditions in his factory by underreporting serious injuries, even though that actually was reported by The Reveal, their Peabody-winning journalism outfit, and super widely respected. And so not only did he just throw away their complaint and just scoff at them, but now he has decided he's going to distrust the media and call all the media liars.

Oh, my God. And he was like, I'm going to start a site where we rate media outlets for trustworthiness. Yeah, wasn't he going to call it Pravda or something? Yeah, yeah. And they're like, we already got that one. Yeah, there is an outlet. And it's real journalism, so please.

But he's just like, it's a guy who's really good at one thing thinking that he should run everything. People have just blown so much smoke up his ass about how cool this one product he made is that now he thinks that he should run the media world. Maybe he should take his fucking Twitter away. Right. Like all of them, though. But also you said he's good at one thing, but like is he that good at that one thing? I mean, I think so. I mean, his companies

are doing well. I mean, like SpaceX I think is to me more interesting than Tesla for sure. Right. And like it's weird because he modulates between like having good ideas or trying to do good things and then also just sort of being this like profiteered sort of dude. Yeah. And I think he is maybe good at more

than one thing but like he's clearly a smart guy but like he's letting what he's good at just like make him a complete asshole and all other things and like one of the journalism outlets that he he was like all right so actually here's some good journalism that has excellent analysis that people should check out. And Slate pointed out that it's an outlet that is tied to a cult. So it's like a thing. He's just assuming he's an expert on some shit that he's just never paid any attention to and just doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Like the NXIVM newsletter?

Yes. Yeah, exactly. He's like, they've got a lot of good points. And he's also dating Grimes, which is a weird, like there's nothing wrong with dating Grimes. Love Grimes. Objectively. But for some reason, this relationship just, nobody's a fan of it. I think it, I don't know why it makes me dislike both of them so much more,

but I've never seen a celebrity relationship where I was just like, well, now I don't like either of you. Well, you didn't like Tom Green and Drew Barrymore. No, I loved. Oh, you did? I shipped them so hard, man. Oh, you shipped them before? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Before you were like, God, please let them be together. I wanted them to last forever. Yeah, but we all did. We were pulling for them. But yeah, I don't know I don't know what it is maybe it's because it suggests that he like

thinks he's cool or like he's trying to be cool gives him a cool factor but then it also makes her because wasn't it I'm sure let the internet tell us how it started

was some like she got some joke about AI and he was like no one has ever gotten that oh really so it seems to me like that whole dynamic is where you're like,

I'm the smart one. And then after it's like, I'm changing my name to a lowercase c to stand for the speed of light. And you're like, okay, Ma, thank you. It's like all so extra. You know, I think before all the Elon Musk stans come for us, look, I get his contributions, they're great, and you can't take that away from him.

But also now for him as being the front-facing person of these companies isn't working out that great because he was doing his like, who do you think controls the media? Like little anti-Semitic dog whistling on Twitter. Right. And then like yesterday he was like trying to be like, ah, socialists are so boring. Yeah. He said, those who proclaim themselves socialists are usually depressing, have no sense of humor, and attended an expensive college. Fate loves irony.

And then later on he's like, by the way, I'm actually a socialist. Just on the kind that shifts resources from the most productive to the least productive. So I'm like, okay. So you see socialism as a zero-sum game too? Okay. Do you think he was intentionally being anti don't know.

Or if he was just like Even if he was or wasn't he's just not he doesn't understand how nuanced that could be and he's just picking up the dog whistle and like blowing on it

and being like this isn't making any noise. What'd this do? You guys hearing this? Yeah. There's nothing there. That's it. That's it.

Right. That's it. Can't hear it. Because yeah didn't you say that like white supremacists were... Yeah, then they were hopping on that thread and they're like, exactly, dude, this is the thing. And they're like, whoa.

And I think that's when other people were in the thread. They're like, yo, my man, look what you just did. Look who just showed up to your party. But, you know, whatever. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We'll get to the Gotti movie after a little later on in the hour. the Gotti movie after a little later on in the hour. I've been thinking about you.

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should we wake her up absolutely not what was that you didn't figure it out i think i need to hear you say it that was live audio of a woman's nightmare this machine is approved and everything That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.

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it's hard to talk about, and there's not much to say about it, but we're going to talk about it because it's happening. Yes. Children are being torn away from their parents when they are coming to the country, crossing the border, seeking asylum. They, you know, the Trump administration earlier in the spring decided that they were going to change the policy so that going forward, it was a zero tolerance policy. And when a family came across, the parents would be prosecuted.

And in the past, they would be allowed to stay together. And now they're being separated. Now they're just treating it. Criminally prosecuting parents who have kids at the border to basically then exploit this sort of loophole that says children can't be held in criminal detention. So then, boom, they have to separate them. Right. And that's all pretty much just to detour people and be as cruel as possible. Right.

What do we do? I'm sorry. I can't hear about any of it without feeling like, what is the action that can be taken other than retweeting? Yes. Right. You know what I mean? Because it does feel like as more and more things happen, the question then becomes, what can we actually do in a way that it feels like because the world is obviously so much bigger, so much more separate. You know, the way we, you know, I don't know.

It's like this seems to be the first thing in a long time that has rallied people kind of cohesively. You know, the imagery. Yeah, absolutely. Great. OK, great. So now we're all on the same page. Right. All agreed.

So now where are we going? So now what are we going to do? Yeah. Where do I take my pitch for it? Exactly. I mean, it's hard because on one side, you think that because of all this public pressure that our representatives in government would do something about it but when you look especially on the republican side i there aren't many actual republicans that are in office who have said who have really spoken up or at least that are in

office and aren't retiring right everybody who's who's not running for re-election got their chest out like they're you know that they're the new martin luther king but every all the other republicans even like paul ryan was like oh i don't like it but then was like the courts have to decide no no no no no no you need the the president can reverse this immediately like with a phone call with a phone call lindsey ram a republican said is that the president just needs to make a phone call and they will stop tearing families apart and putting children in custody. And one of the things that I saw pointed out

over the weekend in an article is that this does permanent damage. Like they've gone back and looked at Japanese citizens who were put in internment camps during World War II and found that they are like twice as likely to suffer from cardiovascular and heart you know, heart disease. And just it's really bad. And die prematurely.

Yeah, die prematurely. kept in a holding cell for children where the guards are specifically not allowed to touch you or pick you up, even though you're in diapers, that's gonna fuck you up. Right. Well, just also, yeah, I'm a group of children together, all of whom are experiencing trauma.

Yeah. What it is to just be around those kids alone, even if, say, you went to your parents at the end of a day, just that day is enough to fuck with you let alone the fact that then this is where you are indefinitely with no explanation i mean guys yeah guys i need some fucking pancakes up here this is no i am i'll struggle it's shameful yeah it truly is but and it's also not just as you said you know these immediate uh quantifiable uh repercussions to the children and their parents but then also you know i think america has told the rest of the world for a very long time we're better than you yeah you know we're above you and you do some shit like this and it's like

you ain't got a leg to stand on you can't be coming up in here trying to go to other brown countries telling them how to behave yeah yeah not anymore not not like well i mean even from the beginning we really didn't have that like but yeah right but we thought we had we were like well look at us yeah i mean we're the you know the free world yeah bitch this shit ain't free yeah no he took one from mark maron and he locked the gates uh because what's really disheartening too too, is that, like you say, you would think that there would be enough people in Congress to be like, OK, let's just introduce a bill. Forget whatever the fuck is going on, because these people are so their success or their ability to stay in office is so tied to not upsetting Donald Trump or that base, especially for Republican members of Congress, that it's very hard for them to stick their neck out and try and speak up. And when you look around at a lot of the talking heads that have been going around to defend this

policy, all of these people are speaking like they're describing like non-human situations, and there's no acknowledgement of these people's humanity. For example, just, I mean, let's get one of the hottest fire takes I think I heard this weekend was Ann Coulter, who was then describing these children as actors. This was when she was on Fox and even the day, like the panel, she was on Fox. And when she said that they started being like, Ooh, but I mean, just listen to this. And I would also say one other thing, these child actors weeping and crying on all the other networks 24-7 right now. Do not fall for it, Mr. President.

I get very nervous about the president getting his news from TV because I also have an idea from America. I don't know if, well, I don't know if that's... A New Yorker article. New Yorker is not a conservative publication. They describe how these kids are being i'm so sorry we have to go they're given scripts to read by liberals according to the new yorker don't fall okay they're being given scripts for like what to say when they get to a judge by themselves and can't speak english yes right on how to understand the process. Right, exactly. Not, okay, when cameras show up,

you cry and act like, just act like you've been ripped away from your family. And then try and really draw on that. That's your motivation in this scene. Right, right. Get the fuck out of here. To say that, if that's the mental gymnastics that some of these people are doing,

like, yes, I don't know what the fuck needs to happen. Do these people need to go see for themselves? I mean, I doubt any of them have the stomach to do that and then go on a show and be like, well, these kids are actors. It's just getting worse and worse and it's getting more frightening, especially with the rhetoric Trump has been using too.

Like trying to paint Germany as like this country gone amok and he's like, these immigrants have violently changed their culture. Like, yo, this is really, really, really dark, dark language, shitty. Like the rhetoric is very scary to me. And it's like we're approaching a very, very crucial juncture, I think, to figure out like whether it's the politicians or people are going to have, I don't know, are we going to come together enough to demonstrate to the representatives that this is unacceptable that

this is shameful well what this could go down as a horrible period in our history that's a question well right it's like yeah what is the way you come together to and sort of the action because i don't know i don't think protesting moves the needle and like actually not for this lever as a power in the way we kind of hope it will so then what can happen because i think you're right because it is i mean this is not this is not rhetoric anymore right it's like the actions he's taking and it's so and it's so rooted in the fact that these are brown children yeah right and how the moment you know and i mean look trump came out the gate in 2015 was it saying saying all Mexicans were right? Yeah, you knew what it was. You knew what it was.

You know what I mean? Like so. And that's the same man. This is the extension of that initial comment. Well, I'm curious to know, like even for people who are Trump supporters, what they would say to this. Because I know, you know, there's clearly that group of people who voted for Trump who no matter what, they're going to look at this and say it's fine. There's clearly that group of people who voted for Trump who, no matter what, they're going to look at this and say it's fine. And I'm sure there are other people who, as we've seen, and even I've met people who are like, I voted for Trump.

And I realized that was a mistake because they were just on some, I'm just not Hillary type shit. So, yes, I'm curious to know if those people can look at that and if you engage them, if they're going to say, yes, this is right or whatever, like, well, you know, their parents shouldn't have broken the law. They should have thought about their kids before they took them on this journey, this arduous journey. They're trying to they're trying to flee violence or abuse or whatever. This isn't just because the Wi-Fi is too slow and fucking El Salvador or some shit there. This is for real. These parents are not coming here for a vacation. And yes, it's it's very tough to look at this, especially when you look at sort of what the White House's endgame is, because this is what they did with the Dreamers, is just dangled, like literally holding these kids hostage now to get money for this wall. So that's the idea, right?

Is that their messaging is that the Democrats could make all this stop. That's bullshit. That's bullshit. If they voted to fund his wall. Exactly. that's bullshit that's bullshit voted for to like fund his wall exactly and if any and anyone who tells you that the democrats can undo this shit yo tell them to fucking go do three not even one like that is so disingenuous when people like when especially when these talking heads pivot on that we're like well you know the democrats just blah blah blah no this is your white house

administration's policy it's not the law and don't start using descriptions like, oh, well, it's the law. It isn't. It's a policy that you've implemented. Right. And they're saying that you could get them to stop if you did this thing, which, you know, they're not even getting full cooperation. Right. Because their bill is sort of like, well, you got two options, like basically not even close to some kind of a compromise. It's just sort of like, give, you got two options, like basically not even close to some kind of a compromise. It's just sort of like, give me my wall money. And another one's like, OK, give me wall money and then maybe we'll allow some dreamers to become citizens. But also we're not going to let any like the options that are on the table in terms of what the GOP is offering are both.

They're just they're they're non starters. There's nothing in there that is like any kind of compromise that treats people who are trying to immigrate into this country with dignity. And it's... Well, that's why it's so correct when someone's like, especially now, to try to come here. You ain't coming here for a vacation.

You know what I mean? You're not coming. If you're coming into Trump's America, you're desperate. And then I just, I wonder, and I don't know if you guys found out, like, are they keeping records of who, which children belong to which adults? I'm like very concerned

that even if any of this is resolved, people will not be, yeah, no one's gonna be reunited properly. I mean, it seems like they must have a decent system because, yeah. I hope, but who knows? Have you ever been to a damn DMV?

No, I don't know. I'm just saying that because to even think of that on top, to begin speculating about how this could even be worse, no, no, no, not at all. But to answer your question, Super Producer Nick Stumpf in my ear just told me that on NPR there were people trying to ask that exact question. They're like, do you have some kind of number system?

They're like, yeah, we tattoo the number on their wrists. Oh, I'm sorry, That's a different thing. They basically said that no one could actually quite answer the question on how any kind of reunification would work, or at least how they were keeping track. Not to say that there isn't thing, but who knows if they can't even be like, oh, hi, I'm doing press about this thing, and I can't even give you a talking point that would make us look even worse here. And I can't even give you a talking point that would make us look even worse here. Right. It's so disorganized.

The Secretary of Homeland Security says we do not have a policy of separating families at the border, period. She said that over the weekend, I think. Yeah. As Stephen Miller was basically acknowledging that this is their policy. And he also said, period. their policy. And he also said, period. So they both ended their sentences in a declarative way, but they 100% contradict one another. There's also a report from the Boston Globe who got inside one of these holding facilities for children and said that the method they have for separating the children from their parents,

because they got tired of literally pulling the child who was clinging to the mother. It takes a lot out of you. So what they would do now is they tell them, we need to take your child to bathe them. It'll be very quick. And then when they take the child away, a couple hours later, the person realizes they're not bringing the child back. So that's the sort of shit they're doing. And I mean, it does seem like public opinion is basically these Republican Congress people and the administration are the only people who think this is cool. Yeah, because there have been a lot of, you know, like Laura Bush has something to say.

I forget who it was. Someone from the CIA was likening it to the Holocaust. I mean, there's definitely a lot of people on the right who are very vocal in that they don't approve of this and think it's shameful and immoral. But there aren't enough people who actually have the votes to do it or to actually put the sort of legislative pressure on the president. Because clearly public pressure means fuck all to this administration. I mean, we've seen that time and again based on, I mean, look, Scott Pruitt is still the head of the EPA.

Right, right. So- Does not give a fuck. Yeah, and again, this is just, they're using human lives as bargaining chips in their legislative process because they just want this, you know, he just wants his wall because he overpromised on this thing,

and most people don't want it. And if you even listen, like Kellyanne Conway was on the Sunday shows too, kind of doing the same thing, like half confirming that it was a policy, but then also kind of half admitting that maybe these people are being used as bargaining chips. I mean, just to sort of listen to this back and forth. Is the president ready to make that phone call to the attorney general, to DHS, to stop this policy? The president is ready to get meaningful immigration reform across the board. And Chuck, let me just tell you that nobody likes seeing babies ripped from their mother's arms,

from their mother's wombs, frankly. But we have to make sure that DHS's laws are understood through the soundbite culture that we live in. There are three circumstances by which DHS evaluates a child at the border. One is, does this child actually have a custodial or familiar relationship with the adult? And number two, is the child in any danger? And plenty have been over time. Some adults are using children to gain access to the border. Why use these kids as leverage? Well, I certainly don't want anybody

to use these kids as leverage. I saw a headline that Breathlessy screamed as much and I object to that very forcefully. Let me say this. These children are in fairness, by the way, it was a White House official that told the Washington Post the thinking in the building is to force people to the table. By the way, I want that person to say it to my face. I really do. I'll meet them at the White House today because I think that's a disgrace. Should that person be fired? Should that person be fired?

That person should have the guts to come forward and put their name to that quote. Cool pivot to suddenly, like, pull up. I know. She was like, meet me outside. Meet me outside. How about that? The real problem with this is leaks

there's too many leaks yeah that's that's what we need to and you see how she really like when she's like well I don't think certainly don't want to see

these people use leverage and he was like somebody at the White House said they were being used leverage then it was like who how'd y'all know tell me who

yeah it's my god say it to my face though yeah who told you that is never a good defense it just makes you look guilty who told you yeah exactly uh i can't remember a time when just an outright evil was happening and you know people just felt this hopeless as to like so what do you do do you call your congressperson do we done we start laying down in front of the fucking buses as they bring children away from their parents? What do you actually do?

First of all, if Jeff Sessions and Stephen Miller can safely walk down the street after this, people should be throwing something at them. I'll say paint and food. Pies. Pies, yeah. They deserve to have some shit okay don't waste a waffle or one of those pies from the helps okay those that's fine yeah and also it's just on the policy front it's worth noting that trump vetoed a bill that basically had all the shit that he was asking for it had money for the wall it had uh you know the lottery thing that he was asking for. It had money for the wall. It had the lottery thing that he's

worried about. But he has Stephen Miller running this thing. And Stephen Miller is specifically just pushing it further and further because he doesn't think that there should be any immigrant. He wants to change it so that what is currently legal for immigration is no longer legal and that you basically have to marry into the country of America. I think that's a fantasy version. Yeah. Yeah. You want to be married?

Marry an American. Yeah. But don't look at this place as a bastion of freedom. But also marry an American like be Melania. Right. Do you know what I mean? They're not looking. Again, they don't want brown people.

Right. Period. Not from shithole countries. No. No, no, no. You know what I mean? If you want to come from Norway, but nobody want to come from Norway because they got it together over there. Right. Period. Not from shithole countries. No. No, no, no. You know what I mean? If you want to come from Norway, but nobody want to come from Norway because they got it together over there.

Right. By the way, Norway, the one place that's been statistically proven, people know I like talking about the Flynn effect. The Flynn effect has gone backwards. It's sliding back in Norway. Their kids today are dumber than their kids 20 years ago. So that's who we want people from. Come on, Trump.

Norway sucks. Am I right, everyone? We hate Norway on this podcast. Yeah, Miles is totally on board here. There is a bill currently gathering support, right, in Congress? Yeah, Dianne Feinstein has a bill in the Senate right now that just needs just a little bit, I think just one or two Republican votes. Right. And it would stop this practice.

It would end the practice. It's fully meant to stop this ridiculous practice of separating families. It would just be like, no, this isn't going down like that. And there are people like Susan Collins who she was even like, they like, well, why don't what are you trying to do? And she's like, oh, I support this bipartisan thing. And it's not it's not even close to being humane. And yes, if Paul Ryan actually cared, then he would introduce a similar bill in the House that to Dianne Feinstein's bill. But let's let's just be real. Republicans literally don't care. Not one of them.

That's why none of them are speaking out. That's why everyone's got their heads low and trying to figure out what to do. And these are the people who are causing all of this chaos because they don't know whether they if their loyalty is to this insane person who is running, who is the president or to morality or what the values used to be about the country yeah but right like now it's like so obvious that the republican party is about just whatever trump wants exactly but also like just it's about the wealthy having power yeah and if you are not wealthy you are not a valuable person right and they like and i feel like in a lot of ways we've seen that now right you can't pretend you know they rest on the laws i think i think it's so funny the way they'll like to like call back to me ways we've seen that now, right? You can't pretend, you know, they rest on the Lord's. I think it's so funny the way they'll like to call back to me, like, we're the ones who freed the slaves.

And it's always like, okay, bitch, you could be claiming some stuff from 200 years ago. You know what I mean? That's like me being like, okay, I am very fit because Harriet Tubman guided people through the Underground Railroad. I can walk for miles. And that's why I'm not paying for this Amtrak ticket. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's like pulling up in an old 80s Mercedes and being like, yeah, I was doing good. So, yeah. And yes, there are people like Lindsey Graham who are vocal about saying this isn't right and I'll talk to the president. But, you know, that's just words. I'm not seeing you. Is he supporting the bill in the Senate? Lindsey Graham is not supporting the Feinstein bill. There's no, no Republicans are. Every

Senate Democrat is a co-sponsor of the bill. Yeah. So basically he's just giving a quote about the optics. It's all optics. This is bad optics for this president. And don't get it twisted because this bill that the House will be voting on this week, I think they're going to be voting on it this week. That's just for optics too, for those Republicans to be like, well, we tried. The Democrats just didn't want to do nothing about it. And that's not what this is. So again, they're just trying to set up just all the optics for this to be like, well, they tried. Democrats are obstructionists, but please arm yourself with the facts about this. So what is the House bill that they're trying to pass? What's that going to be?

Like, why is that a non-starter? Well, because it's basically just the lottery would be ended, your ability to bring family members over, or what they like to call chain migration, which is a shitty way to describe it. They want to end that completely. It's basically just the most draconian version of immigration reform with really no concessions to what progressives want.

Right. And it would just free these children. Current children. Right. Well, then there's other things that were like, oh, well, you know, we're addressing the family separation thing. But like really on a technicality, it does not actually end that practice. It just sort of allows them to indefinitely detain like immigrant families. It. The whole thing is just a show. And so that's why people on the leadership, on the Democrat side are like, yo, do not vote for this.

This is an empty gesture from them to try and, I don't know, make it look like they're doing something for the midterms. Right. All right. So Miles, we'll post the link to where people can find out like specifically actions to take. Yeah, there are. But again, I know what you sort of speak to the hopelessness that Naomi is talking about. It almost feels like how many times can I leave a voicemail? How many times can I speak to some person that is like is running the office of a senator or congressperson? like is running the office of a senator or congressperson how much money can i give to the aclu before you're kind of like you're like but this isn't doing the thing and that's sort of what's good is that people are getting in touch with the frustration of being like well how the fuck is anything going to change and yeah i think you know as this sort of practice continues you'll

see more things like they're in texas There were marches for people going to these immigration centers to try and, you know, demand that they end this policy, that there are there are actions to get into physical space. But again, also the thing to think about, too, at the very least, you must fucking vote in November. You have to vote. And if this if this really is an issue to you, talk to the people that you are thinking about voting for and try and understand where they're coming from on this on this issue, because I'm telling you, a lot of moderates will also be like, well, I don't know. And see, those are the people, too, who are actually making the situation worse because they're so worried about the voting demographics in their district. They can't just stand on on something that is so objectively right and wrong

and just be like, no, this is bullshit. I don't care if my district went red or whatever. People have to really begin advocating for just human beings and what the country just stands for. And yeah. All right. We'll see what we can do.

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Like, you know people have the energy. I'm telling you, maybe there were two baskets scored off dribble drives. Right. I don't even think Jimmy Kimmel has a left or a right hand to dribble. I think dribble drive sounds cute and fun. Yeah, it does. But I think at the end, it was just two gassed-up dudes basically freak dancing in the post. Right. And just sweating all over each other and, like, it does. But I think at the end, it was just two gassed up dudes basically freak dancing in the post. Right.

And just sweating all over each other and like heaving. Apparently, the highlight package will be aired tonight on Kimmel. God, I do not want to see this. I mean, I have to see because one of the quotes, someone just described it literally as a car crash in slow motion. Right. Or something in slow motion. Yeah. Shame on both of them.

But at least they did it for charity. Oh, for charity. Yeah, so it wasn't just like a total partisan, you know, tiny dick measuring contest. People witnessed this, though. There was like an audience of people who had to sit through two hours of this. Yeah.

And no one wins that day. No one wins. And I think they weren't allowed to leave. I think many people tried to leave at the 90-minute mark. Yeah. And they were like, no, you gotta stay people tried to leave at the 90-minute mark. Yeah. And they were like, no, you got to stay. See it through. This is a taping.

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and just advertised to people who use MoviePass and have MoviePass because they apparently tried to do the Netflix thing and look at user behavior. And they were like, oh, you know what they're going to like? A terrible, terrible, worst ever mob movie starring John Travolta. worst ever mob movie starring John Travolta. With a history so fucked up, no person in their right mind, especially on an investor's side, would be like,

oh yeah, I want to get on that. Right. I don't get how they thought that was going to appeal to any, like a wide audience. Well, first, Jack, talk about the sort of arc of the development of this film.

Because when I was reading through this, it sounds like a disaster from the beginning. So Travolta has wanted to make this movie. Apparently he like looked in the mirror, did a gaudy impression and was like, Oscar, baby. And so he for 10 years has been trying to get this made. And first he was working with a producer named Mark Fiore

who ended up being a scam artist who went to prison. Sounds right. At a certain point, Lindsay Lohan and Joe Pesci were attached. I remember that. And it was even too fucked up for them. It was like they were both like, nah, we're out. Nah, Lindsay Lohan. I'm going to open a hotel instead.

She needed something more. She needed that. She would have stayed on. I think they were like, what's up with your new accent? Are you from the Middle East all of a sudden? Right.

Then once that guy was in prison, the first producer, they tried to get another guy who was, I guess, an Irish real estate magnate who invested $1.8 million. And it's been such a disaster that his lawyer has publicly said his client will no longer invest in movies. Like already.

He's just like, yeah. That was an L. So Barry Levinson was supposed to direct it first. Rain Man, Good Morning Vietnam. A great director. He backed the fuck out. And the production eventually hired one of the

guys from Entourage. No, not one of the directors of Entourage episodes. E from Entourage directed this movie. Kevin Connolly. It's appropriate because it's starting to look like the fucking Medellin film that they were trying to make in Entourage, which was a fucking dub from the beginning. It's a Straight up passion project that the story,

which obviously takes place in New York, shot in lovely Cincinnati, which as everyone knows, totally doubles for. Oh, that's great. It looks like little Italy for sure. Just paint a couple of these cars yellow,

call them taxis, have them drive by. He stuck through all of this. The movie is at an extremely rare 0% on Rotten Tomatoes. Not his first zero. It is pulling a 0%. Yeah, he's done a zero before, right? Yeah, I think he got one for, I think, Battlefield Earth.

Oh, yeah, Battlefield Earth. It was an LRH-based movie. Yeah, and that was also a passion project that ended up with John Travolta funding a lot of it with his own money. Yeah. And this as well, which, like, at this point, my man, like, if you are funding a project with your own money, that means that you should not be making that project. Yeah. Exactly. Wait, so is anyone else in it that we know in Gotti? Or is it just john travolta

and then there's a bunch of day players and i i believe it's the latter um so in at the end movie pass gets some you know tracking data that says our viewers like john travolta and like mob movies and we're just like well netflix does this sort of money ball shit with movies. Let's do it ourselves. And didn't bother to look at what was happening with the movie because they invested seven figures, low seven figures, but still seven figures. And part of their deal apparently involved putting the MoviePass logo on the side of John Travolta's private plane. No. Because there's just a MoviePass logo on his plane now for some reason. But yeah.

Cool. It's funny, Naomi, you're asking who is in it. And I mean, honestly, I just looked at sort of the cast on IMDb and it's an actual who's who of actors. I mean, fucking his own wife had to be in it, Kelly Preston. That's when you know he's like, hey, I know Lindsay Lohan was had to be in it, Kelly Preston. That's when you know he's like,

hey, I know Lindsay Lohan was supposed to play this part. Kelly Preston, she was supposed to play Victoria Gotti. Wow. Growing up, Gotti was a great show, in my opinion. But yeah, Kelly Preston had to step up because Lindsay Lohan, I mean, for whatever reason, couldn't do it.

Yeah, good for you guys. Wow, Kelly Preston is a young Lindsay Lohan. Yeah. That's how I feel about Kelly Preston. Truly. I guess they really just wanted to see though if they could just flex up and see like, okay, if we get involved in a movie,

how many bodies can we just put into the seats? Right. And they got their answer. But do you think MoviePass probably did that thing where like, you know, you have to be like right in front of the theater basically in order to get your ticket you have to be like

close to the theater to get your ticket for something that they just like made it so that you could only buy a ticket to Gotti right

I'm trying to see Incredibles 2 right only Gotti is coming up A Wrinkle in Time is also sold out that's crazy pretty sure it came out

literally 30 weeks ago everything sold out sorry but yeah so it ended up making 1.67 million dollars cost 10 million I'm pretty sure it came out literally 30 weeks ago. Everything sold out. Sorry. But yeah, so it ended up making $1.67 million. It cost $10 million. MoviePass accounted for 40% of the audience. Wow. That's pretty good.

Yeah, that's a lot of the audience. But that's also not the best way to demonstrate that you have the power to get bodies in the seats by getting involved with such a garbage movie. Another way to read this is that almost half of the tickets for Gotti were paid for by the people who made Gotti. Because MoviePass is not profitable. The whole idea is that they're just using this

as a marketing tool. So, shit. We'll see if MoviePass can pull it together. But maybe your first production should not be last minute. We're going to invest seven figures in the movie that everybody has been running away from. Like it was a literal ship on fire. That John Travolta had to beg the people in Cannes to show it there. Oh, God.

I think he has bad taste. I do think. He just has bad taste. It could be it. You have to accept that. Eventually, that logo on John Travolta's plane is going to pay off, God. I think he has bad taste. I do think. He just has bad taste. It could be it. You have to accept that. Eventually, that logo on John Travolta's plane is going to pay off, though. Oh, yeah. Somebody's going to see that.

Oh, yeah. It's all coming together. So there was actual seismic activity that was sensed by the sensors in Mexico over the weekend. Over the weekend? Why? What was going on? And this in Mexico over the weekend. Over the weekend? Why? What was going on? And this is your World Cup date. Oh, shit!

Is it time for the World Cup date? Boom. Woo! Yes, yes. I love that drop. Oh, my goodness. Yes. Yes.

Actual seismic activity. Seismic activity artificially triggered by people just losing their fucking mind when mexico uh scored a goal against germany to go up one nothing and that would be the final score mexico stunned germany yes but when you watch them play though it was not that stunning because mexico was fucking they were ready to play play. And Germany looked like every past winner going into the tournament for the last three tournaments.

When Italy won, they looked awful coming into the next World Cup. When Spain won, they looked awful in the last World Cup. And now you have Germany who didn't look awful, awful, but they looked awful by their own standards. Why? What do you think happens? Do you think after they win, they just stop?

They're just partying the whole time? I don't know. I think it's just you get a hangover. Or I think you just become very complacent. Probably. It's probably the biggest explanation is sort of like, hey, man, well, let's just do it again, baby, like we did last time. But it's been four years. A lot has happened.

Exactly. It's four years. You've got to get back into it. Yeah. Right? Kyle Reilly has this whole thing. He's, of course, the guy who coined the term three-peat. And trademarked it. And if you put three-peat on a shirt, you have to pay Pat Riley.

Or he will sue you to hell. What an asshole. But he has all this. He's written a book about the psychology of repeating as champion and just how you get this idea of, I think he calls it like the disease of more where everybody like expects more. And, you know, they also feel pressure from their fans to like bring more because everybody's like kind of over it a little bit. And so it's just like a unhealthy psychological, you know, situation. I mean, these people definitely, I mean, I feel like all the world cup is one thing

where you'd imagine every player who's getting in there wants to play there right it's not over it but uh there was a lack going on this weekend and i'm just gonna go really quickly uh cristiano ronaldo he i don't know he's a one-man wrecking team they played an amazing game against spain on friday uh he looks pretty good maybe, you know, after seeing that, see him just sort of put the, well, I don't know. To me, he's not the GOAT, but he's definitely in that conversation if he can win a World Cup.

And also, if you consider the fact that he's, like, been winning Champions Leagues like mad, just won the Euro Cup, and could possibly do something with the World Cup, he would be doing that all in his 30s. So, you know what? Shout out to you for making me feel really bad. Is that pretty unusual? Yeah, I mean, usually that all in his 30s. So, you know what? Shout out to you for making me feel really bad. Is that pretty unusual?

Yeah. I mean, usually your physical peak when you're playing football, soccer, is like around 26 to 28. So, if you're still doing it after that age, that's impressive. And he put the team upon his back. I think my soccer peak is still ahead of me, but that's just me. No, I mean, I've seen you do some keepy-uppies. You're looking good.

Keepy-uppies? Yeah, yeah. These games are darling. Aren't they? Dribble drives and keep've seen you do some keepy-uppies. You're looking good. Keepy-uppy? Yeah, yeah. These games are darling. Dribble drives and keepy-uppies. Let's see. Brazil looked a little flat, too. But, I mean, it's still early. As Anna Hosniye's dad would say, they aren't what they used to be.

And I guess there is something to say about that. Nigeria. Man, I was really pulling for Nigeria. And I still am because I love Nigeria. I love Nigerian culture. I love the players. They looked really bad. Oh, no.

They looked terrible. Oh, no. But most of the, it's so funny. Everyone's been so obsessed with their uniforms because it's by far been the most popular like garment you could purchase right now on the internet. Like Nike can't keep it on the shelves because they're beautiful garments. But they need to do a little bit of waking up. They lost 2-0, right?

Yeah. It was just not a good loss. I mean, this is the one match that I was actually paying attention to other than the Mexico-Germany game because, you know, you told me how cool their clothes were. Yeah. And good young squad. Good young squad.

But also Croatia has a team too. Like they have a squad. Yeah. So I mean Nigeria was kind of one of those teams where people were like hopeful, not knowing like maybe they'll do it. And right now it's looking a little bit like. Wait, so are they out? So if they lose that.

No, no, no. It was their first game. It was their first game. Wait, so how many chances do you get? Okay, so everyone gets to do three. Three games. Three games. So you're in a group with three other teams and everybody plays each other.

Once. Yeah. Once, yeah. Once. And then if you lose, you get zero points. If you draw, you get one point. And if you win, you get two points. No, you get three. Okay, you get three.

Okay, bro. If you win, you get three points. Got Alexi Lalos over here. Yeah, exactly. By the way, you were completely right about the fox coverage of this it's too aggressive super producer nick stump sent us a quote from alexi lawless where he was like uh mexico really needs to bring some uh american badass if you will yeah no i will not okay washed up dude who just needs to stop talking yeah but Fox can't take all those brown people on one screen. Right. Excelling.

Do you know? Alexi Laws looked a little uncomfortable. I mean, he was trying to do his best to be like, hey, man, Mexico's really doing it. I know part of him must feel so angry the U.S. couldn't even make it. Mexico just outplayed the World Cup champions. So this is something I didn't know, that America and Mexico are rivals in soccer. You did not know this, Jack? I did not. I knew that. Oh, come on. And I don't know, that America and Mexico are rivals in soccer. You did not know this, Jack? I knew that.

Oh, come on. And I don't know what the game is. I was rooting for Mexico the whole time. Yeah, well, not that you have to root against them by virtue of being American. No, not at all. I'm more for Mexico than Germany. Oh, yeah. I mean, what I saw, I was like, yo, Mexico better do this. Because shame on a team for pulling up with that low energy for the World Cup.

But yes, France, man, they barely scooted by Australia. They needed some waking up to do. I like Peru. They look kind of good. And also Belgium. They did all right against South Korea. But really, guys, Iceland, oh my goodness. I stan Iceland.

Yes. Really? They're the most overachieving team in this tournament. It's unbelievable that they drew with Messi's Argentina. Like Lionel Messi, everyone's like, he's the best player on the planet right now. Right. And they held him off. And their goalkeeper was like a part-time documentarian.

What? The smallest country to ever make it, right? Yeah, the smallest, yeah. And you should see also just, if anything, for their fans, they do the Viking clap. And that's how they like cheer in the stadium. And it's intense. I love it. And Iran, first place in their bracket.

In their group, yeah. So, I mean, look out. Bad weekend for like, you know, jingoistic Americans. I feel like Iran was whooping ass. Mexico. Good. That's what you get right right that's like how you show them also shout out to panama first time in the tournament and i got emotional watching them because you could tell all the guys who are like at doing when

they're hearing their own national anthem were like in tears because they've never been in the tournament and it's a moment to be representing your country and hear your national anthem played and man they you could tell it means a lot to them. They were going wild in Panama. So, you know, shout out to you guys. I hope you guys, you know, do something. You didn't win today. How long is it?

How long is the cup? How many days? How many weeks? It's going on for like a month. I thought a win was worth two points, Naomi. What the fuck do I know? You have time. I mean, there are games pretty much every day until we get out of the knockout rounds.

But yeah, the final isn't until July 15th. Okay. My mom is a soccer fan. I was thinking about it. I was like, oh, I haven't heard my mother this week. And then our resumes would work up. And I was like, oh, yeah, she's doing her thing. If I call her in the middle of soccer, she ain't taking that call.

It's like that. And now in honor of Father's Day, I have to do a sports update for dads. How about those greens at the U.S. Open, guys? Really fast. I mean, lefty out there trying to putt on those things. It was like ice. All right. That was the dad sports update.

I almost felt like I needed to watch golf. The U.S. Open? Yeah, because it was like that's all my dad would do on Father's Day. It was like one of the first Father's Day I've had with kids. And I was like, well, what the fuck am I supposed to do? But I didn't because golf sucks. Yeah, well, I mean, the one highlight from the US Open was probably what the microphones caught of the guys talking around the tee. Oh, yeah.

Is that what you call that? Yeah, straight up like some agent sounding like stockbrokers. what the microphones caught of like the guys talking around the tee, like with the tee box. Is that what you call that? Yeah. Straight up like some agent sound. Yeah, that's my ex. The guy was like, dude, I was banging so hard we head butted. Right. That was in the live feed of the U.S. Open. So if you're like watching, you're like, hold on,

what am I hearing in the background? He's like, yeah. Am I hearing Tiger Woods in her monologue? Yeah. Someone said literally some shit about it. He was like, yeah. Then she got in the Muppet position. The Muppet position?

I'm shocked that isn't one of the Google trends from the weekend. What the fuck is the Muppet position? I think it's your hand up their ass. Are you going to say a hand up a butt? Oh no. Sorry, Samantha.

I had no idea that you were so sensitive about that Call him Jim Henson because he had his hand up me Like I was a Muppet She's so good Meanwhile downtown Naomi it's been a goddamn pleasure having you Where can people find you Follow you

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Miles, what's that going to be? Okay, so, you know, let's just keep it. It's World Cup. Let's just keep some world music moving. This track is by Ebo Taylor, who is a Ghanaian musician. This song is called Come Along by Ebo Taylor and the Pelicans, this group. You know, just a little throwback, a little bounce from Ghana. So check that out, guys, and enjoy your week.

Enjoy the World Cup, please. Yeah. All right. We're going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye. Bye.

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