The Daily Zeitgeist - Strikes Are In The Air, Cop Created Candy Conspiracy 10.1.21

Episode Date: October 1, 2021

In episode 1000, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Seán Devlin to discuss workers striking, school boards begging Biden to protect them, Free Edibles: The Scourge of Halloween, According to Cops..., The Insane Case That Made Dog the Bounty Hunter Famous and more!FOOTNOTES: Instacart workers striking…  School Boards are begging Biden to protect them Free Edibles: The Scourge of Halloween, According to Cops The Insane Case That Made Dog the Bounty Hunter Famous Comedy album: “Airports, Animals.” available via arts & crafts records LISTEN: Mansur Brown - Mashita  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:57 that we're surprisingly more united than most people think. We all know something is wrong in our culture, in our politics, and that we need to do better and that we can do better. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 204, Episode 5 of Dear Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it's Friday, October 1st, 2021. So you know what that means. It's National Black Dog Day.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Get ready for your aunt to text you about that if you have a black dog. My name. It's to help. They say because black and darker shade dogs don't get adopted at the same rate. Is that true? So it's like to bring awareness. Yeah. Come on.
Starting point is 00:02:51 Hey, man. Shout out to my black dog. You know, Rambi. Yeah, Rambi. They're not in the village, but around. Beautiful dog. Thank you. Was Rambi an adoptee?
Starting point is 00:03:01 Oh, yeah. Straight up out of a supermarket parking lot. Ribby's like a beautiful dog. I'm assuming that was one you had to snap up real quick. Yeah, yeah. I mean, the woman was returning her cart and wasn't looking at him, so I just snatched him up, hopped in the car,
Starting point is 00:03:18 took off with him. Boom. He's my dog now. No, it was just like a pet adoption. I don't know. He's a beautiful mutt. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. We got that going for each other. Anyway, shout out to all the black dogs out there. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.
Starting point is 00:03:33 I did cast 500 pods and I did cast 500 more just to be the man who talks the news with miles a thousand times or more that is courtesy of rob cunningham that is courtesy of rob cunningham who uh informed us with this AKA that we have, this is our thousandth episode, I believe. Oh my God. Is that a millennium? That's a millennium. That's a step into millennium. That's one large, as you know,
Starting point is 00:04:17 I like to say in gambling circles. I got five large on them assholes. But yeah, shout out to us for doing a thousand podcasts. Shout out to Rob for bringing the appropriate amount of enthusiasm for this milestone by just retweeting the one he already did for our 900th episode, which is exactly right. Because when I told Miles it was our thousandth episode about two minutes before starting recording. What was your answer, Miles? What? It is? Wow. Time flies when you're having fun. It does.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Well, I am thrilled to be joined by my co-host. Take a head at the snake. Behold, I'm again. When he says step, I can't. I have to do that whole method man part. He said step into millennium. You do.hold, I'm again. When he says step, I can't. I have to do that whole Method Man part. He said step into millennium. You do.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Yeah, sorry. Hey, well, I'm thrilled to be joined by you, my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! It is an emergency. This is not fine. Please, someone sing him. Sounds that soothe his mind. Got just the dude for this. I think he's known
Starting point is 00:05:25 Oh, known, known, known As the music man Music man putting out the fuse In Donald's dome And shout out to Christy Yamaguchi-May For that Elton John-inspired AK Yes, the music man who we found out From the Stephanie Grisham leaks
Starting point is 00:05:41 The person who plays Donald Trump's show tunes To avert a tantrum. Thank you. Very astute observation. Just stroking his forehead, playing playing show tunes to calm him down. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat for the for this momentous thousandth episode by a hilarious comedian and filmmaker whose debut comedy album, Airports, Animals, period.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Just so you have the punctuation. Punctuation, right? It was named one of the best stand-up albums of 2021 by Pace Magazine. They called it a thought-provoking hilarious triumph. The Comedy Bureau called it a damn good debut comedy album very
Starting point is 00:06:27 aggro from the comedy bureau but uh i've listened to it they are right uh it will make you extremely happy please welcome the brilliant and talented sean devlin hello hello thank you for having me congratulations on your thousandth episode. And you probably should have booked a more famous guest. Oh, you're right. Hey, hey, hey. This is it. I mean, you got an album. I don't. We're reaching the heights here, baby. Yeah, one of the best stand-up albums of the year. Acclaimed album.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah, yeah. It's very good. And also, your energy level is appropriate to this being our thousandth episode, which we barely acknowledge. So we're thrilled to have you. Yeah, I have millennial energy. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Where are you coming to us from? Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada. Hey, Miles' favorite place. My favorite place on earth. He'll talk a lot about the time he went to Italy, but the real heads know that Vancouver is Miles' favorite place. They know I got a collection of Vancouver Christmas market mugs in my pantry. You know, I collect them.
Starting point is 00:07:40 I'm coming through for the Christmas market downtown. Wait, so you came in the winter? Yeah, because look, I'm born, I'm of the valley, the San Fernando Valley, just local scum. And it's just so hot all the time that I fantasize about wearing jackets because I've always been barefoot on blacktop and shorts and shit my whole life. So bundling up is like, it's like fucking cosplay for me. And going to Vancouver at that time of year, it's like fucking cosplay for me and going to vancouver at that time of year is just it's a it's like not so cold that i can't handle it but just enough from like respecting it that makes sense that makes sense a lot of rain though yeah i mean
Starting point is 00:08:15 it's funny the last couple times i went i would like my trip will coincide with the first snowfall of the winter so like in a way i was like look at look at look at us vancouver we were made for each other yeah yeah rain and snow another thing the san fernando valley doesn't get a lot of mostly dust yeah fire ash yeah fire ash and dust sean you've you've been a filmmaker most of the time and then this is your debut album what like it took it was what was the road to having your debut album come out now yeah i guess it had a bit to do with the pandemic uh so yeah things were slower with film and it felt like i was ready to to put an album out and and a record label offered me money to do it that's that's the real answer. Oh, okay. Yeah. Great. Well, there you go.
Starting point is 00:09:05 I was going to try to come up with something artistic, but... Right. Yeah. It's really fucking good, man. It's so fucking funny. Oh, thank you. I appreciate it. Well, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. Instacart workers are striking. School boards are begging Joe Biden to protect them. We will talk about the scourge that is facing all parents this Halloween, according to cops, which is that people who have weed gummies are just dying to give them away to children they don't know and just make
Starting point is 00:09:46 children way more annoying. We are going to talk about Dog the Bounty Hunter. I think we're going to, I believe in, I believe in today's show. I believe we're going to get to it. All of that, plenty more. But first, Sean, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history i googled this morning can a weed plant get rained on too much yeah because uh yeah we had a lot of rain here last night and it's my wife and i's first time growing weed outdoors and we got spooked yeah just gotta you know if you're going them outdoors they're if they're they're meant for you know typically plants grow out so i think it's just like the mold right that you got to watch out for yeah mold i googled it and i love the like wheat growing advice is there's a fine line
Starting point is 00:10:38 sometimes you're like yeah this is science and sometimes it's just stoner advice and sometimes yeah um so the first tip was like just shake all the water off get it off yeah just punch it off so yeah we shook it off a bit and then it said to give it potassium which i guess means like you feed it my weed plant a banana or something i don't know how to give it potassium right yeah i don't know how to feed plants at all yeah i don't know how to give it potassium. Right. Yeah. I don't know how to feed plants at all. Yeah. I don't know how to feed it any food. Yeah. Or it's like,
Starting point is 00:11:08 or like, I feel like a lot of like weed growing things will also just be like weird, hostile, like sarcasm too, where it's like, Oh, I don't know. Like it's a plant,
Starting point is 00:11:20 right? So, you know, God forbid water got on a thing that grows outside you're gonna be fine bro yeah boards are very interesting yeah boards are interesting place for information it's just like you're an idiot for asking questions about growing weed is that then but then like wrapping it up with it's all good bro don't worry't worry about it. You'll be fine. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:46 Yeah. How do you dry a plant? Do you dry a plant by just waiting for the sun to come out? Or is it like we're just putting a little towel on it and wagging it back and forth? What are we doing? Yeah, I don't know what I'm going to do because we're not going to have sun here for several days. So we were thinking about maybe just cutting the plant early, you know, cutting our losses and then bringing it in to dry it inside. But I don't know. It's tense times over here. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:16 we're here with you. So if we can help, you know, let us know. Zite gang also, if you have any tips for Sean, obviously chime in because we know we have many diverse skill set within the listening community. And BC is like naturally a place that weed is very comfortable, correct? Like that's even before everything was legal and like you could have massive growing operations, like that was the place that people grew a lot of weed right yeah even before it was legal my my recollection is that it was a seven billion dollar shadow industry pre-legalization just in bc wow yeah because i remember like even when the first like medical dispensaries were opening up here in like the late 90s and early 2000s, like BC buds would come down and I'd be like, yo, they got some BC buds in and that, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:10 that had stature in the community for sure. Yeah. Yeah. So the best stories that you can find about like people being innovative is like how people get drugs across the border. And I feel like there were some good ones about people like floating it across in balloons from British Columbia and maybe a catapult here and there. I think the catapult was the U.S.-Mexico border. I remember the catapult. My favorite one at the B.C.-U.S. border was these folks built a tunnel. And so they dug out a whole tunnel they put in like little trolley tracks and everything and they put fluorescent lighting in but then the feds knew about it i guess from the beginning and just watched them do it and then the first guy that rolled that first cart down with like fluorescent lighting like a grocery store and everything they were just waiting for him on the other end they busted them oh man fucking no need anymore do you think like yeah the people have busted him
Starting point is 00:14:11 they're like they're trying to figure out like the best bit to shock the guy with like what do we do let's dress as clowns yeah we throw a surprise party we do like surprise yes and then you're like you're under arrest for trafficking they hired the team from practical jokers yeah right yeah like agent yeah put your earwig in so we can feed you some lines from the control room okay yeah the trolley the the indoor trolley i had few people know that that was what mr rogers was doing is smuggling weed on his little indoor trolley system what was that little town called imagination land or something yeah yeah whatever he was tracking friday's realm oh yeah man you you see that shit you see those people they were right fucking baked man uh what is something uh what is something that you think is overrated, Sean? The banjolele, which is a banjo and a ukulele.
Starting point is 00:15:13 It's a musical instrument that should not exist. And my downstairs neighbor is dating a white man with an asymmetrical haircut who's been teaching himself how to play banjolele in my yard for five months oh god what i'm painting a very specific picture of my home life here yeah yeah weed plant problems and this dang banjolele and he's not getting better it's like i want to say give up you're not progressing at a rate that would make you feel good about this. Yeah, that's the key part. He's learning. He's learning. Not like the instrument sounds terrible regardless.
Starting point is 00:15:50 Even if I think you had mastered it, I would still hate it. But he's been teaching himself it by playing and singing like Weezer covers. Oh, no. Yeah. I'm baffled by his confidence because I have so much anxiety. I feel like I can't buy milk without thinking that I've somehow offended the grocery clerk. Right. And for him to just come into my yard and think that he could do this and no one would have issue with this terrible banjolele music.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Yeah. I don't understand his confidence. In fact, I want to learn from it or something. Right, right. right i mean i think a lot of people there's always like that tweet it's like i wish i had the confidence of blah blah it's like we should all aspire to have the confidence of a white man with an asymmetrical haircut learning banjo-lele at the banjo-lele outdoors yeah outdoors i used to be i like when i was when i was a kid i played trumpet for most of my life and when i would when i would practice i i'm this like i just like i don't want to sound bad i would like go to like the most remote remote place of like my house to try and like practice in silence i
Starting point is 00:16:56 would even use a mute sometimes so for someone to just be like yeah it's due to my driveway just blasting this shit i'm like wow that's there is something to be learned there though yeah confidence there you go sound though like what do you what like it feels like what are you gonna do like a tropical you know ukulele obviously evokes hawaii uh the pacific islands you know things like that but then the banjo is very much feels like southern american and then together like what the fuck is that like i'm is does it sound any like when you hear it you're like oh that's an interesting sound or just sounds like any other stringed instrument it sounds racist that makes sense i feel like it's more banjo than ukulele right and i feel like the banjo has definitely appropriated the ukulele like it's more banjo
Starting point is 00:17:46 than ukulele it's just i think the banjo just wanted the laylee for the cred or something the cultural cred yeah or the you know place to for other people to vacation and and also yeah right kidnapped the ukulele's queen in order to annex the banjo structure. Yeah. And then intermarried, forced intermarriage. Yeah. Yeah, they have the racism covered from both the cultural appropriation angle and the just straight up deliverance style, like uncut, proud racism of the banjo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:22 And if, yeah, I would love to hear a sick banjo-lele solo but in my mind like i don't i don't and also when i hear weezer i'm like what are they what song is it like say it ain't so or something yeah there's pretty yeah several or my name is jonas on banjo lele that's a lot of picking i I'm picturing your downstairs neighbor as the apartment from Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind for some reason. Like, I can't not. Like where Jim Carrey lives?
Starting point is 00:18:56 Yeah, yeah. Like that. The vibes in there. Yeah, the vibes. What is something you think is underrated, Sean? Boiled eggs, guys. Oh, fuck yeah. I had two for breakfast.
Starting point is 00:19:10 You don't need to fry them. You don't need to devil them. You just need some hot water and maybe a bit of salt, some chili sauce or something. Yeah. Wow. I got nothing else. Just boiled eggs. How are you applying it? Yeah. Wow. I got nothing else. Just boiled eggs. Just really think about that, Jackie.
Starting point is 00:19:28 How are you applying it? Just on the smooth outside? The chili sauce, I mean. You take a bite, you fill the hole? What do you do? I'll slice it right down the middle. I'll dissect it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Wow. And then I'll put some chili in there. Maybe a thin slice of onion. Oh, shit. Wow. And then you got wow and then you got a little bit of effort going into that i like that yeah and then you never go soft boiled yeah only if i'm in rush so it's more out of necessity uh okay yeah yeah i i like a lot of soft boiled eggs and i i'm kind of on a similar diet as you i i usually eat like two boiled eggs two soft boiled eggs in the morning okay with a little bit of kewpie mayonnaise japanese mayonnaise
Starting point is 00:20:10 and a little little bit of a teardrop of soy sauce wow okay okay yeah that's how i get down okay okay i'm gonna try this tomorrow yeah how are you guys transport do you transport in in shell or do you transport like you crack it and then here's the thing i think we're people i i feel like i i agree that the boiled egg is stinky so i don't want to force that on other people necessarily so i just try to eat it almost like a vitamin like i like that i can boil it and i can eat it so quickly and that's my breakfast yeah right yeah yeah that's and i that's what i do i take a small bite off the top and create a chasm and then i i get my little mayonnaise and soy sauce in there then i eat the rest the rest the fucking
Starting point is 00:20:57 egg in one bite yeah yeah god man it's easier that way they're so good all right well let's take a quick break and we will be right back to talk about some news. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of
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Starting point is 00:24:32 the real deal on fentanyl. Get the facts. Go got an Instacart worker strike starting on October 16th. They're specifically the shoppers who go on strike because, yeah, it's bullshit. They've been treated just horribly. They have added billions and billions of dollars of valuation to the company's bottom line. And the company has rewarded them by treating them like shit. so you owe them nothing right and in this situation you know conditions have been pretty the conditions are awful across the board for people and that are doing gig work because of the fact that no one is treated as an employee it's all this independent contractor nonsense and you know there is for instacart shoppers they're dealing with low tips like where they started to bring down like the minimum that like would first sort of default to in the app as well as like a rating system that's super fucked up and severe where like if you came if you dropped off an order and someone gave you a one star review mostly because for
Starting point is 00:25:56 things like out of their control like supply chains are fucked up so yeah maybe the thing the customer asked for wasn't in their order and they hit a one-star review, like sort of in a retaliatory way that would prevent shoppers from like losing out on more lucrative trips, less work in general. So they have just some simple demands to try and make this just resemble some kind of humane work. They have five demands, which are the, they just want base pay for each order instead of the system they have now, which pays workers as low as $7 for like they'll batch up to three orders at once. And then you're making $7. That's nonsense.
Starting point is 00:26:34 They want to return to commission, a commission based pay model where previously it would pay shoppers 40 cents per item shopped. They also want the 10% default tip to be reinstated. Right now it's at 5%. They also sadly are asking for occupational death benefits for workers who die on the job because that is something that has happened, as well as, you know, to alter the rating system that doesn't punish them for things like the supply chain being fucked up because of a fucking pandemic and customers taking it out on the rating system. And yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:06 there was just like, there've been more attacks on gig workers during the pandemic. And then there was sadly an Instacart shopper was murdered in March in Colorado while a fucking working for Instacart. And that's why they're like, this is, this isn't just like the, like,
Starting point is 00:27:24 I think a lot of people, especially the way people tip or way workers describe it. They just think people are just fucking around getting their groceries and dropping it off. Like, well, they don't need a tip like that's an easy job. But honestly, this is sadly they rely very heavily on tips because Instacart doesn't do the minimum. So for listeners, they should go to their phone right now and delete instacart as an app is that basically the the way that we can kind of stand in solidarity with or just don't use it i mean i think customers are just boycotting as well in solidarity beginning the 16th when they strike where because you know like like you're saying, Instacart's value, I think, nearly doubled in the pandemic to $39 billion is what they're worth.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And as, you know, as the pandemic, like, went on and we prematurely began to reopen things, the demand for grocery delivery has also shrunk. So they're, like, I think in a position where they're trying to cut corners, too, to kind of keep their revenues looking pretty, but it's just a, you know, another predictable tale of gig worker apps, treating people like independent contractors to the point where they own, the only choice is to like, have to take collective action like this. Any job that comes with the caveat, if you're working and you die, we don't owe you anything. That's a job that needs a union. That's like, that's very, very clear. That part is, is really shocking. Like I would rather, I would rather go to a job interview and ask them like, Hey, what happens if I die? And I'd rather hear that they're unprepared for that. Like I'd rather they'd be like,
Starting point is 00:29:01 Oh, I don't know. We've never considered that. As opposed to them being like, yeah, that happens a lot. Right. Funny that it just came up. Yeah. Fuck, man. We have a policy and it doesn't include you. So that's insane at a bare minimum that seems like that should be illegal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Well, I think, and this is why companies like this, they're constantly lobbying legislators to, you know, write guidelines that are favorable to this kind of oppressive work. And, you know, right now there was even talks of like Instacart and DoorDash and Uber to potentially merge into one just three headed hydra of terrible, terrible subsubsistence wage work. headed hydra of terrible, terrible subsubstance wage work. Yeah. I feel like they're too much like little mom and pop companies that we need them to be more like just giant autonomous automatons that churn through human lives. Yeah. And by the way, the thirty nine billion dollar valuation is it should be clear, like based on the fact that they're able to at least like to a large degree that they're able to treat employees like shit like that is the unfortunate truth of the current version of you know late capitalism is like well if you can you can you know lower the amount that the overhead on these dang employees like your ubers, you can really crush it out there. Right. Well, because like, yeah, you'd think like the benevolent version of an app like this is like, yeah, man, like you keep like we just need a small fee for us to connect you with someone for you to do the job.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And then like whatever that costs, like you take all that. We merely just set this up like for the infrastructure for people to make money by offering people rides or doing shopping for them. When now it's like, yeah, you're not getting a fucking, not even getting close to what you're owed on the actual labor that you're putting into this thing. So it's, I don't see that formula changing. The rating system too. The rating system too, I'm glad they're keying on that because that's brutal and it also makes us as consumers see our complicity in it too. you know we've all been pissed off at our bosses but it's letting everyone be like you know i i recently hired a new employee to bring me a sandwich in the next 20 minutes and i'm gonna treat that person like shit i'm gonna scream at them for you know having they were late yeah yeah and because they're it's a vast web of people mistreating each other. If this is the one chance you get to have an employee who works for you and you've just been shit on by your boss for five years, I feel like some people will use that as an opportunity to treat those people like shit.
Starting point is 00:32:17 And I don't think it's like a coincidence. To me, it's designed, right? It's like there's so much hostility and frustration building up with some of these systems of power. And I think things like this facilitate that hostility being directed in the direction it should be going yeah upward and uh like i'm not a historian this is this is just based on me watching the ridley scott film the gladiator but i think that the whole thumbs up thumbs down thing came from uh walking phoenix like the caesar guy that roman emperor yeah and it was like you, that's where he's like, should this gladiator be murdered publicly or not? Yes or no? Thumbs up, thumbs down. And I think it was clear to everyone who saw that Oscar-worthy film that that's a sort of kind of unaccountable form of power
Starting point is 00:33:02 that should be checked, not kind of unaccountable form of power that should be checked not kind of scaled up through innovative app technology and like distributed to everybody right that's so this effect so i had a i had a theory because gladiator was a 2000 film and we did a live show about the year 2000 and i had a theory worked out about gladiator and why it like hit so hard with the 2000 with the audience in the year 2000 that we I didn't have time to get to. But just like this idea, I feel like the audience was caught, like identified with Joaquin Phoenix. Like they didn't want to, but that's who they realized they were. Joaquin Phoenix. Like they didn't want to,
Starting point is 00:33:44 but that's who they realized they were. And then like gladiator was the, you know, the people who are off like fighting wars that like, they don't want to be a part of, but like, there's never been like a more cowardly character, like in movies.
Starting point is 00:33:59 And like, when you look at the structure of that movie, it really feels like it's like offering that character up as like someone we can project our anxieties of being you know like america is way more nepotistic than it wants to admit americans like will be at war without realizing it you know that all that sort of shit and then like you're able to be like no fuck that guy he's bad but yeah the allowing us like an app that allows us all to be individual little comeduses yeah it's gonna be a billion dollar industry because we're all like fuck yeah thumbs down off with the head you my my eggs were late or whatever right
Starting point is 00:34:46 oh these aren't the eggs that have the blue and brown shells mixed together yeah also uh you know it is the i said strikes are in the air because uh hollywood is facing its largest strike since world war i's looking like the international alliance of theatrical stage employees iotsy who represent you know they build the sets they do all the behind the scenes work they are going to probably strike in the next couple days and you know if you like i i don't know what holly going to do. Like, is the next season of Stranger Things just going to be like a Lars von Trier movie and like a black a black box type thing? Like, because that's basically what you're dealing with.
Starting point is 00:35:45 in a in a black void because these are the people who build the fucking sets and make everything like make you able to suspend your disbelief yeah and i think you know and it's the same the theme is the same anywhere right which is just like with iotzi they're saying like we're not trying to blow the fucking industry up but when we keep banging our heads against the wall saying we would like you, a living wage for certain positions, like at the lowest rung of our union, that that is a living wage or, you know, like, cause new media and streaming stuff has also like created like all new kind of business quagmires for like contracts and things like that. There's just a lot of stuff too, or they're like, what about like rest periods? if i'm doing consecutive like you
Starting point is 00:36:25 know 18 hour days i i there has to be a point where we can have a break not just because they have to make a schedule for production like in time to not go over budget and yeah i i'm really i honestly hope that the hollywood actually takes a second ever have a moment to reckon with itself because these are truly the fucking people who make everything fucking possible. It's not the people who we see on the fucking screen. To get to that point is that effort and labor of countless fucking people.
Starting point is 00:36:59 And hopefully, I think it just makes people more aware of what it takes to make these things because they don't just pop pop up and it's a great time. Like there are really hard jobs in production that go unnoticed and are not being compensated fairly. a similar thing of the designation of being told you're an essential worker rubbing up against the realization that you're not being paid a living wage. Like, how can I be essential to everyone and not be getting paid a wage that lets me live? And I think that, you know, I saw that during the pandemic because a lot of up here in BC, right, we have a pretty big film industry and a lot of COVID stuff got brought up here because you couldn't shoot down in LA. It was getting brought up to Canada. And so there was a period where teachers literally weren't at school teaching and shaping the minds of the future generation. But I have friends who are still working
Starting point is 00:38:06 on like sugar-free gum commercials. Like, you know what I mean? And so they're being told like, oh no, no, you're essential. We need this sugar-free gum commercial. And if that's true, sure, tell me that's essential, but like treat me right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Right. Anything new in like our version of you know market capitalism like so new media these delivery apps where that are like you know building an industry from scratch kind of like those will all always by default just abuse the shit out of people until like somebody does this and like fights for the rights of people. That's just like how it seems like it has always worked in America. And it would be awesome if we could break out of that cycle where it's like, you know. Well, because I mean, it's the same thing, right? You look at like how Instacart values, the value goes up and workers are still being like oh dude we still
Starting point is 00:39:05 have so many fucking problems and you guys are spending more money the same thing with all these new shows that are coming out like yeah exactly prestige tv is like it's fucking on the same level as film and granted iotsy is working on film and television but like they're just seeing like these budgets are getting bigger and bigger and bigger but you're able to kind of keep costs low by keeping the crew at this very like lower level without an ability to renegotiate things while we're watching things like how much money is being spent on this fucking production they're trying to treat like a netflix series like it's a fucking funny or die short you know like it's just yeah it's bullshit but they that seems to be the default shape that all, you know, industries take when they're, when they first take form in America. And then, like, then you have to, like, break through the media, like, cone of silence and be like, no, this is really bad for a lot of people because otherwise it'll just be like instacart's valuation is fucking skyrocketing
Starting point is 00:40:08 like that'll be the headline instead of yeah you know what's actually happening to people i mean people are naturally withholding their labor because no matter what many people are realizing it it shouldn't working multiple jobs shouldn't be the norm like right if we're in a system where we have to put our labor forward to survive, then one job should be enough. And the fact that it isn't is I think, you know, it's just creating a very organic version of people kind of advocating for themselves and it's popping up more and more and long may that last. I hope that leads to a point where more people can really fully be on the same page to understand like, oh, yeah, like whether it's Instacart or IOTC or Uber or fucking writing for an online publication or whatever. Like there are minimums that we deserve as human beings, especially when we're in a system where our labor is being converted into massive wealth for people who aren't putting even a close to the shred of work that the workers do. Yeah. It would be cool if somehow out of this, there became some stronger
Starting point is 00:41:11 solidarity or even like alliances between all these essential workers because they've fallen across so many different sectors and industries. And yeah, it's been such a difficult period, but these are all the folks who were told, no, you have to keep working. So if when push comes to shove, I mean, worse than that, plague comes to death, that these folks have to keep working. They should be able to like collectively organize. Right. All right. Let's talk briefly about another group of fat cats who have had it too good for too long. And I'm talking, of course, about the people who volunteer to be on school boards.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Come on. They dedicate their time to help educate our children. And now they're going to complain that they've been subjected to being abused and treated like absolute shit by right-wing political activists come on i've had enough well where's the line what's next you know we've seen the scenes at these board meetings they look you just you can't even like if you were if you had it on mute there you're like oh my god like was there a network of sexual predators like just like running amok in this like school system but no they're like they're teaching our kids critical race theory which again is for graduate students and law students so complex you couldn't even begin to fucking teach a child
Starting point is 00:42:39 critical race theory even with like the most rudimentary graphs and pictures. But again, we've seen this, whether it was critical race theory or masks, you know, there were medical professionals who've had their tires slashed for merely like restating the obvious facts at a school board meeting around masks or vaccines. Teachers have been subjected to coordinated harassment campaigns for believing in teaching history. And we're also, and we talked about earlier, extremists are trying to infiltrate the school boards themselves to try and alter the curriculum, like to whatever they see fit. So things are chaotic. And this group that
Starting point is 00:43:16 the National School Boards Association, who like represent like thousands of school board members, they're like asking the president to like, we need protection here. Like this is their, they're actually effectively intimidating people into not doing what's right for children purely because of intimidation. And they really are asking that things that are including quote, the classification of these heinous actions could be the equivalent to a form of domestic terrorism and hate crimes. And they're saying, we just, we need help all across the board, whether that's having the FBI, Secret Service, and National Threat Assessment Center give them resources
Starting point is 00:43:55 to understand how to do proper threat assessment or examine what they say, quote, examine appropriate enforceable actions against these crimes and acts of violence. they say, quote, examine appropriate enforceable actions against these crimes and acts of violence. It just seems like there that there's so many avenues for these people to harass them that they're just like this. We're not equipped for this. Like we need someone to intervene. I think the most absurd part of it is that a lot of the people who are harassing these teachers from the right seem to be the same people that proposed
Starting point is 00:44:26 as a solution to mass shootings at schools that these teachers be given guns yeah right and so like just for their own safety i mean the safety of these idiotic monsters they should probably choose one of those things like either i'm to keep harassing and antagonizing these teachers or I want to arm them. But for your own safety, maybe not both. Right. Yeah. Yeah, I like that. If they were just like, OK, we are going to go with your suggestion to arm the teachers, but only at PTA meetings. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Yeah. Yeah. Only with that energy. Yeah. Yeah. Temporary gun license yeah right or they're just like or they're like yeah well we can do like uh you know trial by combat but like we'll just get like the mountain to represent the school boards and yeah throw whoever you want at them parents how about you rick with the flannel shirt tucked into your jeans you want to fight
Starting point is 00:45:22 the mountain over critical race theory? No? Okay. Next up, masks. Anybody else? No? Good? Don't want to get your eyes ripped out by the mountain? But I think, you know, this is just kind of that thing where it's hard to know, like, how can you solve this problem? Because it just feels like this is just part of, like, the continuing convulsions of this, like, amorphous culture war that is existing.
Starting point is 00:45:42 That if it's not critical race theory, it's going to be masks. And if it's not that, it's going to be trans kids. And it's not critical race theory it's going to be masks and if it's not that it's going to be trans kids and if it's not that it's going to be this other thing that there's just there's always going to find they're always going to find a way to keep doing this so i i don't i mean i think maybe that's why they're asking like some kind of law enforcement part of this because maybe jail might dissuade some of these parents that are just like so hopped up on their privilege that maybe it's not, you know, maybe it's not a thing that you can just slash someone's tires. I mean, I think it's a bit of a snake eating its own tail thing, because I think that the solution is how you educate kids. Like if you want adults that aren't
Starting point is 00:46:23 idiotic and violent and hostile in these ignorant ways, it's going to start in school. And yeah, that's, I guess, part of why this battle is so important. But it also, I guess, would require patience for some of those results to be seen. Maybe we can hope that in 30 years, if things go well there won't be teachers trying or parents trying to fight teachers right yeah it's yeah i think and that's why i think conservatives see just as they see the same path there right it's like it's through the schools it's like steve bannon said it's through the school boards and they know that just there's been this like baseline of what American education is.
Starting point is 00:47:06 And they realize it's churning out more people who would probably not vote for Republicans. And they're just like, fuck, OK, then like we need to like we need to start deprogramming people as swiftly as possible to try and get them on board with our more autocratic, you know, fascist way of looking at governance. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian,
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Starting point is 00:51:16 halloween for us but you know every time halloween comes around there's usually going to be a dumb police warning about every fucking year this year it's pot-laced halloween candy that these you know these dang potheads are gonna be handing out tricky thc-laced halloween candy kids. And then just like, I don't know. Well, I don't know what they think the purpose of that is. But this is, so the way this story is being manufactured is they raid somebody's house and find candy laced with THC because people love that shit
Starting point is 00:52:02 because it's a lot of fun. They look at the similarities between the candy and the Halloween candy, and they're like, ah, they must be trying to. They don't actually believe this. This is how they get people to be scared on the local news. They're like, this is a great way to whip up a quick moral panic about the dangers of weed. And the reason they made these candies in the size and shape and flavor
Starting point is 00:52:31 of actual candies is not just because it tastes good and is fun, but it is because they want to sneak one past children and poison them for some reason. You know stoners all they do is watch youtube videos of kids who are accidentally high and laugh their asses off because they're so sadistic and they're also so rich that they can afford to give a fucking 30 candy bar just at a time just tossing them out to the local kids the local youth of course of course i'm in my late 30s and in my day you know people freaked out about there being razor blades in the house and candy right and so i'm sorry but this seems like genuine progress to me it's like
Starting point is 00:53:20 oh trying to get me high like that's better than trying to slit my throat internally slice up my esophagus with an errant razor blade there are and this is a quote from a washington post article there are no documented cases of kids being poisoned by marijuana-laced Halloween candy. Zero. And the one case where they have a parent claiming that they ate some of their kid's Halloween candy and it was laced was two people who went to the emergency room and were like, ah, we ate some candy with meth on it. And we don't want to explain to you where we got it.
Starting point is 00:54:14 So we're just going to say that it was in our kids' Halloween candy haul. Right. Basically seems to be the story there. That sounds like an incident where people just ate meth and then made up a lie yeah exactly yeah right uh some meth probably got on that candy i ate yeah you're like we just eating loose meth just because you didn't have a stem and you're just trying to beam up real quick i don't know i don't look i'm not here to judge but sir this is bad i'd love the i love the fact that you're like there's no documented case of this
Starting point is 00:54:45 ever fucking happening which in a way makes q anon more realistic than this shit somehow at least q has jeffrey epps yeah like at least like i'm like yeah well you know like they're they are they're trying to tie these loose threads together like there's not even a fucking thread out there to even clasp on to for this stupid fucking story that they love to rinse and reuse every year that's that's a great comparison though because it sounds like it's you know news editors trying to you know capitalize on the the conspiracy theory side of the algorithm by creating you know some new hot of the moment conspiracy theory or they're just looking for an excuse to be able to pick through their kids candy first and eat all the best stuff.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Despite this being like an annual news story that I grew up, you know, in the 80s and 90s, thinking was like one of the main dangers to my life was eating poisoned Halloween candy. There have been, since 1958, 200 cases of tampered Halloween treats in the U.S. and Canada. There's about 41.1 million trick-or-treaters in just the U.S. every year. That's 200 total. Since 1958, right? Since 1958. Right. So since 1958, only 200 recorded incidents.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Yeah. And then 41 million people a fucking year. And of those 200 cases, experts couldn't find a single report of a child killed or seriously injured from a contaminated treat received during trick-or-treating. But meanwhile, like like you know just just maybe keep your eyes on the road the like during halloween instead of worrying about this shit like there's way more pedestrian accidents and shit because people are out on the street oh you're in hall yeah you're saying uh of like a car a car hitting somebody is the big the actual
Starting point is 00:56:45 threat on hollywood not fucking you know wavy candies and the only thing like i do think it's fair for people like to be wary that they like get not give it out like because there there is now more weed candy than we've ever had like in our houses than before but like i think that's pretty standard but yeah just keep make sure you keep it separate from any other candy and i'm sure you're gonna be fine like whoa i i don't know what's the problem officer i keep it separate come on why you don't bum me out man well you know i i i i'm sure by next year they'll find a new thing or maybe it'll just be this all over no it'll be this every year yeah and probably we're dead or weed is illegal well yeah but you know like you know why i'm like i'm kind of proud of us
Starting point is 00:57:39 u.s and canada that there's only been 200 incidents since 1958. Like you'd you'd think with like how things have especially deteriorated in the United States as it relates to like like these like large scale violent events that like at the end of the year, like the Halloween man, don't fuck with. Come on now. Don't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Like, let's I don't have the energy for that. And that's just that no one wants that burden. And even in the language that was used to describe those 200 incidents, you said contaminated and there's no deaths and so part of me thinks a bunch of that might just be like sneezed on expired snickers yeah right you got the runs or something like right right that was contaminated yeah because i'm sure yeah like how do you i mean the energy that would go into contaminating a candy and like being the front like the face that like, you know, people there's a way to figure out where the candy came from on some level.
Starting point is 00:58:34 You know, it's not a totally like anonymous act because you are knocking on your door. And so like, do I remember anyone weird? Yeah, there was that person just laughing, just sadistically the whole time. It had no costume on. And right before they gave us a cane, he said, hold on one second. They'd close the door for a couple minutes, then open and be like, now it's ready.
Starting point is 00:58:54 That person, we may want to look into that. It's also such a weird level of distrust of just people because my understanding of strangers who like to kill other strangers is they like to they like to see it like they like to you know get their hands dirty and that is something that satisfies them but to put all that work in and then just know that somewhere out there in the distance someone is is suffering. That doesn't really seem like if that's, if that's really happening, then we should be just as scared as the candy you buy at the grocery store. Cause it would be just as easy to go and put a bunch of contaminated
Starting point is 00:59:35 candy at the grocery store and have people eat that. If that's, what's getting your rocks off. Come on. Don't give these freaks any ideas. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. off come on don't give these freaks any ideas oh i'm sorry i'm sorry come on yeah it's i i can't think of a worse or less satisfying prank no and even like as a kid you're like you're not trying to fuck with someone's i don't know maybe because you grow up like like halloween candy sanctified so even in like as you get older like no no come on like don't fuck around with that. If you're going to do anything, throw shit at someone's house, light a bag of shit
Starting point is 01:00:10 on fire, teepee, eggs, that stuff. That's a prank. Not violating the sacred trust of Halloween candy distribution. It's sacred. But the teepee has shit on it there you go jack he's back the
Starting point is 01:00:27 eggs have been in your ass you're like how do you keep them from cracking jack that's pretty impressive hey man a lot of control man a lot of control a lot of meditating yeah it's it's very dumb. I do think there are valid things with tons of candy around the house. If you have weed gummies around the house, that's something that actually happened at a barbecue that we covered on this show because it's kind of funny to imagine, but like I think a bunch of five year olds got their hands on their parents, Sour Patch Kids, THC gummies and like had to go to the emergency room. So I guess not funny, but just kids are already so weird. So I was just curious what that would look like. But it's all happening by accident. It's not right. Nobody is doing this on purpose. So, yes yes beware don't leave your fucking
Starting point is 01:01:27 weed gummies out and like next to your kids fucking halloween candy oh yeah that's that's yeah that's sure oh you should see me like whenever i have like younger like a family over so i act like the dea is about to pull up yeah i'm like yo they're gonna have to do work to fucking find this shit because yeah like you absolutely like you have to understand you know that you have to respect the power and that in the wrong hands it can do a lot of damage not even just kids like people in their 20s my my wife when she was younger showed up at a house party hungry and proceeded to eat a bunch of pastries off a table that weren't labeled and it was like so she downed like a whole dinner's worth of edible weed pastries and then
Starting point is 01:02:13 had such a severe panic attack that she had to go home and just sleep in a snowsuit to like sweat it out i love that method of like all right i gotta put the full body snowsuit on and just sweat this thing out. Did it work, though? Is that a good technique? She said it worked. Like, by the next day, she felt, like, better. Oh, all right. But I agree with what you're saying.
Starting point is 01:02:38 It's like there is a risk, but it's more like at home and be careful. It's not like be scared of people premeditated trying to do it. Right. Yeah. Well, that's, yeah, I think that's the,
Starting point is 01:02:49 that's the thing that everyone wants to just sort of foster and everyone at the moment, it's like, be afraid of fucking every single person out there. Cause you don't know who the fuck they are. Yes. There's no way they could just be like you. Another human being who's trying their best to just survive in the world day
Starting point is 01:03:04 to day. They weren't deep on the cops look at these sick fucks out here with nerve ropes full of drugs to get your kids fucked up man i am like i i will say this i will never act on it i'm very curious what my kids would be like stone because they're already so like prone to, uh, like pothead thinking. I'm just, if anybody who was at that barbecue, who saw those five-year-olds high,
Starting point is 01:03:33 yes, open up protective services. If anyone was at that, uh, barbecue with those kids and saw how they were behaving. I, I, I'm just curious,
Starting point is 01:03:44 like what that what that looks like well i think it's funny because like the first time i smoked weed as a kid i was like this is great i feel like more like a kid right now everything was goofy so yeah it's just a slippery slope yeah not trying to grow up i'm just trying to be me to hell no yeah exactly i'm just i'm just trying to laugh harder at this shit i'm watching they bring them to the er they're like our kids got really cool all of a sudden we don't know what to do dude they're like listening to sage serge gainsburg and stuff i don't even know it's like they're real hip and shit yeah but my five-year-old asked me how his bones move him once and i
Starting point is 01:04:27 means and that you're like that fucked you up you're like yeah man that was definitely a thought i have had while i was high yeah and then immediately forgotten let's talk really quickly about dog the bounty hunter he's everywhere yeah so he you know as the gabby petito case continues to just spin around in the headlines because of missing white woman syndrome dog the bounty hunter was like i'm i'm on this shit. He started smelling some money. And so he has decided to enter the search for Gabby Petito's ex-boyfriend who was with her when she died. And he disappeared into a national park and you know for to his credit his investigation has already yielded a 9-1-1 call from the boyfriend's family when dog the bounty hunter showed up at their house 9-1-1 what's your emergency um dog the bounty hunter like fucking won't leave me alone right now oh he's going full dark knight like he's lived long enough to become
Starting point is 01:05:45 the villain right right yeah well he was he was also doing that she was doubling down back when he said he could use the n-word like he's like yo i gotta invite to the cookout permanently so you know i could say the n-word because i in 2007 that phone call leaked to him dropping the m-bomb multiple times and not like in a i'm singing gold digger like lyrics out loud type shit he was like he was hitting that hard r and he his you know this at the time when i remember i think it was larry king he was like yeah i'm friends with snoop and you know he's like they say like hey what's up my n and you know i feel like because of that you know i can i can say it too and he kept he came back
Starting point is 01:06:26 around to talk about those fucking topics again in 2021 i was like why are you still talking about this fool like yeah you're lucky you got canceled before before people didn't like knew how to cancel people because he's like back again be like hey remember that i'm here to say again eminem i'm just like eminem and you're like what i'm like okay he's like i have more black friends than eminem oh okay there you go sir name dropping snoop doesn't count because not just because having a black friend doesn't let you do that but because that's the only other guy who has dog in his name like him being like no i know snoop dog it's like well no that's not your black friend that's your other friend whose name has dog like yeah y'all have
Starting point is 01:07:13 dog solidarity yeah you know that's about it um yeah the new york times did like a lengthy profile on him i think this year about like how he's coping after the death of his wife he had a pulmonary embolism thanks to testosterone supplements and refused to stay in the hospital he literally pushed an orderly up against a wall to escape and was only convinced to get medical help after an intervention from Dr. Oz. Oh, wow. So, like, the head professions on TV, like the TV doctor and the TV bounty hunter
Starting point is 01:07:54 are apparently, like, friends somewhere with, like, Judge Judy, probably. It's, like, really reinforcing, like, my childish idea of, like, how TV works. I bet Dog the Bounty Hunter. I think Dr. Oz is all the celebrities doctors, right? Yeah. But it seems like this is just him coming back and being like, I feel like I wasn't fully canceled before.
Starting point is 01:08:17 And like it now would be a great time for me to just like formerly formally get canceled. Because he's also like, I thought I had the pass. He said, quote, I thought I had a pass in the black tribe to use it. Kind of like Eminem. Eminem doesn't use it.
Starting point is 01:08:33 Eminem doesn't use the N word. And I know he has like years ago, there was like a track and a lot of people like, well, what the fuck was that? But in his like professional career, that's not what Eminem does. so I don't know if again, his idea is like,
Starting point is 01:08:47 well, the white guy who raps, I bet you can say it. Right. No, not, I don't, I don't think so,
Starting point is 01:08:52 dog. And if you think you have the past because black tribe, anything you don't know. Yeah. Yeah. In the black. I'm like, what is this?
Starting point is 01:09:02 He needs to chill out. Someone needs to sneak him some uh some dirty halloween candy yeah right absolutely and if he doesn't i feel like maybe the feds are gonna go like suicide squad style and you know let the tiger king out of jail to go catch dog the bounty hunter yeah right it's a trap they they released the tiger king to get dog to draw in the bounty hunter apparently so i didn't realize that like his origin story but back in 2003 this guy andrew luster who is the heir to the max factor cosmetic fortune was arrested for drugging and raping three women and skipped out on his one million
Starting point is 01:09:45 dollar bail was convicted in absentia and sentenced to 124 years in prison and dog was like this is this this is how i make my career went and like just like spent his whole like like all the time he had hunting this guy down but like the way he like brought the guy in was wildly illegal like bounty hunters are illegal in mexico and he went down to mexico and just like grabbed him and like threw like kidnapped him essentially and then immediately got arrested for that like it went like threw him in the back of an suv pulled out and then the police pulled him over like what the fuck are you doing man but he still owes all sorts of fucking money for for that so that that seems
Starting point is 01:10:32 to be why he's trying to get elbows way back into the uh national spotlight at this key moment when we're all super you know appreciative of cops who are racist and do things via violence and toxicity. Like that's he's his moment is here, I guess, is what he's thinking. Yeah, I don't know. Again, he's almost a million dollars in unpaid legal fees because of that. Yeah, that's That's a fucking... From that first thing? From his illegal jaunt down to Puerto Vallarta
Starting point is 01:11:10 to be an illegal bounty hunter. Right. But then when he did it, he was like, hey, if I got this guy in custody, it was worth me going to jail for a few days. Right. Yeah. But I mean, just in general, he is, you know,
Starting point is 01:11:23 he profits from a predatory prison funnel system that disproportionately affects the poor and people of color. Again, like you said, uses the N-word freely and has repeatedly lobbied against bail reform, even recording a robocall warning people in California about a proposed bail reform bill. people in california about a proposed bail reform bill so i can't think of a less compelling robocall you get and starts off like hey it's dog dwayne chapman the bounty hunter i'm like okay if you're not selling dog food i don't think i honestly will listen to you because i don't even get i don't even respect you as a bail bondsman bounty hunter he definitely learned from that first incident because he was like well i may not have succeeded in being like an actual bounty hunter but if this was just for the cameras it looked good like and then that's the route he went down yeah yeah and i'll just uh i'll just keep that million dollar tab just hanging on the hook there and I'll get to it eventually. Yeah. More on that later. Sean, such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you on Instagram at shawnee.devlin.
Starting point is 01:12:50 And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? I don't have Twitter, so I don't have a handle to share. But the comedian Eddie Pepitone is basically the only reason I venture into Twitter because he's so funny. And he tweeted something last week that I loved, which was this was his tweet. And he has lots of stuff like this. We are surrounded by death from a plague, but we are also surrounded by great bargains. Home Depot. Home Depot has floorboards and tile machines with sound buttons, all on sale this week.
Starting point is 01:13:30 So come on out and buy before you die. Home Depot, get your affairs in order. That's fucking great. Get your affairs in order. Eddie Puppetone is like nonstop tweeting out this amazing voiceover for the current moment. Yeah, just dystopian nightmare. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:13:53 You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And also the other podcast, 420 Day Fiance with alexandro where we talk about the great 90 day fiance a tweet i like is from mark snedeker at mark snedeker he did a quote tweet uh from cnn where the cnn tweet says u.s government will run out of money by october 18th treasury secretary says and mark replies unless we can put on the best talent show this town has ever seen. That's great. I love when that was a solution to every problem. It's always worked for me.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Yeah. Let's see. Sam Salisbury tweeted, Shakespeare shit is so timeless because everybody's got that friend named Polonius that hides behind your tapestries. Push Push tweeted, every single night I slip into the alley behind my block and release two gunshots into the sky to keep the rent in my neighborhood stable. guy to keep the rent in my neighborhood stable and this is one that will probably it's somebody i i just want somebody to answer this for me keefler at keefler elf tweeted gonna be honest with you guys i don't understand how the gas nozzle knows when to stop how the fuck does it know it's just like hear that thing being like but also i never trusted because i'm a
Starting point is 01:15:27 compulsive topper offer oh you really keep going oh yeah i'm like nah we can i'm like i'm like fucking giles cory in the crucible is stacking more fucking stones on his chest like more weight i'm like you'll get more gas in that tank if you don't see the gas spilling out, was there ever any gas? Thank you, Sean. There you go. I do it till it gets on my shoes. Have you ever seen the gas do the thing where it all comes out at once? It leaks out all at once.
Starting point is 01:16:00 When you overfill the tank, I can't tell if i imagined this when i was a kid or if that's how cars used to like expel gas when they got over wait you have like a vivid memory of like a overfilled tank just like like a orca's blowhole just like yeah just like all over the place i mean who knows the way cars were built back I mean, like every year we're like adding safety measures. We're like, that wasn't there already? Yeah. It seemed like the car's water broke and gas just like came out from under it.
Starting point is 01:16:36 That might have just been the shitty car we had. And then I went to live with my new family. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song are you sending people to go check out so we're gonna go out on uh really like a guitarist that i'm really fucking digging his
Starting point is 01:17:11 name is mancer brown he's from brixton you know london and he plays a lot with like yusuf days and you know uh that that whole sort of uh new jazz scene out there from England that I'm just loving, loving. And this track is called Mashita, M-A-S-H-I-T-A, because it seems like all of his albums have Japanese themes. He has an album called like, this is actually from the album called Shiroi, which means white in Japanese. And yeah, his guitar playing is just like so groovy. And his like the way he just picks those chords, you just love to hear it, and he's so effortless.
Starting point is 01:17:48 If you like the music, I really suggest you check out him playing live because he's just such an expressive guitar player. And just a great way to go into your weekend because it's a nice and easy track of just some nice soothing guitar. So this is Mansour Brown with MASHTA. Awesome. Well, The Daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen your favorite shows that is going to do it for us this morning but we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we'll talk to you all then bye bye
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