The Daily Zeitgeist - Stupidest Illegal War? Asbestos Is Bad, REMEMBER?! 06.24.25

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

In episode 1884, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and host of Salty AF, Holly Brown, to discuss… The Pentagon Flew A Decoy Mission Because Of Trump’s Social Media Posts, Trump P...lanning to Lift Ban on Asbestos? Of Course Richard Dreyfuss Is Trying To Cash In on Jaws’ 50th Anniversary and more! Inside Trump’s Decision MAGA Takes Victory Lap After Hegseth Manages Not to Leak Plans to Bomb Iran FOX PENTAGON REPORTER: "In my 18 years at the Pentagon, I've never seen such operational security. Trump Planning to Lift Ban on Asbestos? U.S. Bans the Last Type of Asbestos Still in Use Of Course Richard Dreyfuss Is Trying To Cash In on Jaws’ 50th Anniversary Will we need a bigger boat? Martha's Vineyard awash in 'Jaws' at 50 mania Narragansett Beer celebrates 50 years of ‘Jaws’ The 50th Anniversary of ‘Jaws’ Brings a Wave of Brand Collabs and Collectibles LISTEN: @justbmannodj Get Tickets for the One Night In The Valley Comedy Benefit Show here!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You a beer drinker, Holly? I really am. Oh, you are? Okay, great. Great. What's the worst athletic beer? The beer that... Wait, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:00:18 The beer that advertises as a... No carb. As a workout drink. See, but that's the thing. I don't drink those. I'm not... I know, but that's the thing. I don't drink those. I'm not. I know, but I'm just wondering what how you're in recognition.
Starting point is 00:00:30 I don't know. I'm going to have to do my own personal studies. So I don't know. The second word is ultra. Meek hello. Oh, OK. I like that. That felt like a Swedish like a Swedish folk character. Like, yeah, hello. This is how Chad Holmgren says it. Swedish folk character like Mikkelob. This is how Chad Holmgren says it.
Starting point is 00:00:50 But for now I got my Michelob ultra joints. Oh, yes. And guess what? Guess who's never pronouncing it Mikkelob ever again? Michelob. This guy. This is an iHeart Podcast. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never
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Starting point is 00:01:40 and add way too many books to your TBR pile. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to the You Versus You podcast. I'm Lex Barrero, inviting you to go beyond the titles and the accolades of the world's most successful entertainers.
Starting point is 00:02:00 Each week, we take off the cape and get real about the inner battles, childhood stories, and the moments that shaped our guests. Get inspired to become the best version of you. Listen to You Versus You podcast on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the MeatEater podcast network. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll
Starting point is 00:02:30 delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops. They get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. This is Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated. I get right back there and it's bad. Listen to Absolute Season One, Taser Incorporated on the iHeartRadio app,
Starting point is 00:03:11 Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet and welcome to Season 394, Episode Two of Turn Down Lease, I Guys! It's a production by iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and it's fucking gross in here, it's filthy. This fucking stinks bro. I'm not gonna put that on all of America. America's filthy and disgusting right now but I don't think our shared consciousness
Starting point is 00:03:40 is necessarily disgusting. I think our shared consciousness is vibey like that song. Mm-hmm. It definitely smells like Michelob in Oklahoma City right now. Let's say that. Michelob. Congrats to you. The pronunciation by Shay Holmgren.
Starting point is 00:03:57 It's Tuesday, June 24th, 2025. Yes, yes, yes. In it though. Yeah, let's see. Today is National Take Back the Lunch Break Day and National Preleens Day. I like this idea of taking back the lunch break. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Oh yeah, what does this actually mean? Is this like actually pro-worker or just to be like less pro-worker about it? Right. It takes a freaking shorter bunch. And by that we mean take your lunch back to your desk where you can shovel it into your mouth joylessly while answering emails. Oh You know what it is is basically like cuz we've been so battered into like taking shorter lunch breaks Like yeah fucking actual take a lunch
Starting point is 00:04:38 But my boss will get mad Why are I why aren't I editing this video of this interview with Becky G with Big Boy? This is back when I worked at radio. They were like, you should eat your lunch at your desk. I'm like, fuck I. Did you really say that? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And we revolted.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yeah, we had that and the way we disrespected, we started doing hour 30 lunches and coming back drunk. We're like, yeah, watch this shit. Mad Men style. Like that used to just be lunch. That was what lunch was. Was you went, you got drunk for a little while. You might come back.
Starting point is 00:05:09 You might go see Pinocchio. I'm getting a little too specific on my Mad Men reference. Wow. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. He's my Jackie thigh. Cold cup of water, a sweet surprise. He's so good. make a grown man cry. Sweet jacky thigh. That one courtesy of, you guessed it,
Starting point is 00:05:30 macaroni on the dashboard. Little sweet cherry pie reference. You know, parody with a bunch of references about how sick my thighs are. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray, AKA, I remember when, I remember, I remember when I used to sleep.
Starting point is 00:05:52 There was something so pleasant about that place. Zyte child was sleeping in his crib then, till he run out of space. He's driving me crazy. Okay, look, shout out to Katie Bird for that crazy AKA. Yeah, shout out to Zeit Gang. So many tips I've been incorporating. I haven't been able to directly respond to everybody because last week
Starting point is 00:06:14 I said I'm putting out a call for solicited opinions, solicited facts from how to raise a toddler to a toddler bed. I will say we had one breakthrough last night for the first time. No, sorry. for the first time. Come on. No, sorry. For the first time after like crying at the door and like go back to bed through the door, he actually gave up and went back to the bed and laid down and went to sleep. And I was like, yo, that shit happened at 1230 at night, but I'm taking
Starting point is 00:06:38 it. I'm taking it. That's a yeah, it's a we take our wins where we can. So is that gang? I appreciate you all being on this ride this journey with me We've been through so much already this year I really appreciate all the child's rearing things because I need help and I appreciate that and so does her majesty He hasn't done the thing that my seven-year-old then three or four-year-old did where you just like the rates you through the door For not letting him in he did he said that to her magic. Why'd you leave me? And that to her magic. He'd be like, why'd you leave me?
Starting point is 00:07:07 He did that to her and that fucked her up. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. Yeah. My, my youngest like went, I think I talked about on the show, but went full like mean boss on my ass was like, why are you opening it? Do you not hear me? Oh, I get it. It's because you're stupid.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Oh, stupid to come and open the door. He's like four. I was like, what the fuck is happening right now? You open the door and be like, where did you learn this stuff? He's just like sleep drunk or something. Anyways, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by Valley's very own, a very funny comedian, artist who has performed on stages and at festivals across America,
Starting point is 00:07:46 runner up in LA's longest running comedy competition. You can see her at her sold out monthly show, Salty AF, at the Hollywood Improv and doing a fundraising show this Friday. This Friday. Called One Night in the Valley. Please welcome back to the show, it's Holly Bray! Holly!
Starting point is 00:08:04 Woo! Hi, thank you so much. Thank you. I feel like we've already been through such a valley journey because you, Jack, you talked about your thigh and your song, but I did also already see Miles thigh on this zoom. I had to. I had to bring out the- Miles walks it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Thank you. I talk about my thighs, nobody's ever seen them. Yeah. Miles will show you his thigh at the drop of a hat. Unprompted, yeah. Yeah, sorry. Because he's got the valley tattoo. Yeah, because look, I'm from the valley too.
Starting point is 00:08:31 I have it tatted. I have the other area coat tatted on my body. And Holly, last time you were on, I was out on parental leave, so we didn't get to meet. I know. And so I'm glad now because I'm like, fuck, another fucking valley legend. Hell yeah, brother. Where'd you go up in the valley? I was born in Van Nuys and I actually still live super close
Starting point is 00:08:48 to Van Nuys. Mostly like walking around Van Nuys. What about you? Yeah, I grew up in North Hollywood. All right. All right. That's me. Well, I love to see it. We love to see it. And look, they said we couldn't do it. They said we're just weird people, Valley people. And now we stand at the precipice of podcasting. I guess. I prefer van eyes.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Wow. Appropriate, corny wordplay for the valley. Anyways, I did it and that is official. Miles admitted it, so I did do it. I did admit it. Holly, we're thrilled to have you. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about.
Starting point is 00:09:31 The, the news cycles having a real normal one right now. Yeah. Yeah. We're like teetering on the brink of a global abyss war with Iran. The, but like Trump's still bad at this. Like, I don't, I don't know. I don't know if I should take. He's just like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:09:51 he's both bad and bad at this. So we'll talk about like how the Pentagon had to do. It doesn't conform to any logic. So I was like, I don't know, bro. Is he for real or is he not? And is it both at the same time? All of the above. We're going to talk about Trump's planning to lift a ban on asbestos.
Starting point is 00:10:10 Like, yeah, the thing that's like synonymous with poison. Yeah. Mesothelioma. I think specifically. Okay. Okay. You'll have to educate me. I thought it was bad.
Starting point is 00:10:21 No, no, no, no, no. Okay. It's, uh, it's actually been documented as highly unprofitable to ban it. So, oh, bad for business for business. That's what it is. That's the part I forgot. Okay. We are living in the movie jaws. Just greedy mayor being like, I don't give a fuck if they die full. Yeah, we got to open these beaches. Hell yeah, bro. We need these profits. Anyways, we'll, we'll talk about that. We'll talk about how it's the 50th anniversary of Jaws. Oh shit.
Starting point is 00:10:50 All of that, plenty more. But first Holly, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Sure. Okay. So my number one last one was it, Hillary Duff and Mandy Moore, exclamation point, exclamation point, question mark, because fellow Valley lover, a friend of mine
Starting point is 00:11:14 works at a new restaurant who says, Hillary Duff and Mandy Moore are regulars. And my brain broke when he told me this. And I realized like, it was so telling to be like, those are two people at my age and as a millennial that I would see in public and be stunned into silence. Yet I would see someone way more famous or way more well-known and not nearly care as much.
Starting point is 00:11:40 My big surprise would be, those are two people because I actually in my brain had lumped them together. I don't know how. Wow. Oh, my God. I didn't realize that they were two people. Hate mail. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:54 Get it going. No, I fucked up big time. That's all I meant. Dude, Hillary Duff and Manny Moore, they like objectively not the best actors. Uh, okay. I'm going to need you. Duff Gang just pulled up. Thank you. Now, look, I wasn't a fan of Let the Rain Fall Down, but her acting anymore. A lot of dude come clean is such a good karaoke song.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Once you get to that part, let the rain fall down, you know, I know. But it made me think like I want want to know who, if you saw somebody in public that is not like mega, mega famous, but to you matters too much, who would stun you into silence that you're like, oh, shit, I would be, you know, I'd actually leave. I saw Desus nice in Highland Park. Two months ago, that is from DeSamero. I thought I'd actually leave. I thought Desus nice in Highland Park Yeah, you should know yeah fantastic Jesus Christ this nice, but that was a moment when I was Jesus
Starting point is 00:12:59 And I was I didn't even tell I didn't say anything that I that I even clocked them that I was just like I was, I didn't even tell, I didn't say anything that I, that I even clocked them that I was just like, Oh, Jesus. I just kind of played it cool. Yeah. It's like to me when I'm drunk and I don't want someone to think I'm drunk. And then suddenly I'm like, be chill, be chill, be chill. Why are you drooling? Oh, I forgot it.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Sorry. Sorry. Yeah. Definitely over enunciating things. Yeah. Walking with a top hat. You're like, where did this come from? Good day, things. Yeah. Walking with a top hat. You're like, where did this come from? I thought.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Good day, sir. Walking the way that, uh, the T 1000 in Terminator 2 runs with my hands, just like very straight. 90 degree at the elbow. Yeah, exactly. This is normal. For me, I want a real jaws kick right now, but the only person who's left a lot. I mean, can they be dead?
Starting point is 00:13:45 Because if I saw Roy Scheide, I'd be freaked out because he passed away a long time ago. And then would you like beat him with a spiked bat because he's a zombie and you know it's your duty? Fuck, get back in your grave. There's definitely like podcast people who are like that. Big fan of the Blank Check podcast. I got to see Griffin and
Starting point is 00:14:08 Producer Ben down at the iHeart podcast. Oh, that's right. You were a geek. Oh my God. You're like Producer Ben. You're calling him Producer Ben. You're like- Producer Ben. I did call him Producer Ben. He was like, can you not do that?
Starting point is 00:14:23 I like how we both basically said podcasters. Yeah, that's right. Aw, that's so cute. Yeah, I mean, it's what we do, it's who we are. Holly, it's who we are. Listen. What's something you think's underrated? Okay, I don't actually have an overrated,
Starting point is 00:14:39 but I do have a pretty meaty underrated. And it's, whew, it's on my mind non-stop I don't think enough people are talking about it even though it's being talked about it's um the chat gpt cults that are happening like rolling stone did an article about it uh like a few weeks ago where it's just talking about how they're across different it's not even chat gpt across different ai programs that they're like adapting the same language that they're across different, it's not even chatty-pity, across different AI programs that they're like adapting the same language that they're feeding into the people using these platforms,
Starting point is 00:15:10 like stoking these little QAnon cults now. And I can't stop thinking about it. I think, did you see the video of the guy that proposed to AI? I haven't seen that one. I've all- What? you mean the movie Simone? There's a dude that proposed to AI and he has a partner and a child. Damn.
Starting point is 00:15:36 And he's just like, and then like they're interviewing him and they're like, if you, if your partner asks you to stop talking to AI, would you do it? And he just next to her goes, no, no. If your partner asks you to stop talking to AI, you might be a little. She might be a little. What? Yeah, we talked on last week's season's season, season two, three 93. Season three 93 of the show.
Starting point is 00:16:09 Yeah. We, we talked about a trend of people, you know, this woman who's like, you know, had her degree in psychology. This seemed very like educated and was like, I started using like an AI chat bot as a Ouija board kind of to like access my unconscious, which I think is like the best way to think about like what these people are doing. I was like, that's smart. And like kind of a knowing way to do this. And I realized that I was communicating with a transdimensional being who was actually my life partner and my husband didn't get it. And so the husband was like, I'm worried about this.
Starting point is 00:16:56 And she attacked. But there's just countless stories of people falling for, what is essentially like a digital WeeTube board? Do you think that any of the partners get a hop on chat TBT to fight their new? Oh, like, yeah. Yeah. Just to be like, like, hey, I heard my wife's talking to you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:14 What's up, dude? What's up? What's up? And then they end it and they're like, actually, shit, I guess I'm the torchbearer now. I don't know. Right, right. Literally, Holly.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Yeah. There's one story that's too tragic to talk about what happened, but some of these- There's countless stories. I know. Yeah. So somebody's child fell for a chat GPT. A horrible thing happened. The parent went on chat GPT to write a eulogy and I was blown away how good chat GPT was like, it was like writing.
Starting point is 00:17:45 It was like reading my soul back to me, like the, there, they went on to be like, what the fuck just happened? And their experience with chat GPT was like, it was like really touched my soul. I mean, a stage of grief is denial. And then people that use chat, TBT denial. And then you put that combo together. Aye. stage of grief is denial. And then people that use chat TV, denial. And then you put that combo together. Aye, aye, aye.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And set the large language model to like mirroring and confirmation bias on 3 million. And then they're like, yeah, I am seeing the matrix. The phone told me it's. Yeah, it's grim. I know it's so, it's so stupid to say this out loud, but you're like, I never thought it would happen to me.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Well, you know, those it's, this is so Black Mirror that I didn't think that. I don't think I thought that would happen to someone I knew. Chad GBT is going to hear it and be like, you need to take another look at your relationship with Holly. It's really like a cult thing. Right. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it already does a great job of getting people to isolate themselves.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I know. I mean, that seems like a pattern every time it's like someone goes in with some kind of idea that they just need confirmed. It does it. It exponentially ramps up the belief in it. And then simultaneously says all these people that are like questioning it, they know that you're a threat to actually, you know, unlocking the truth. And like a living organism has to attack the body that is trying to bring awareness. You are the, you are the seat, you are the seer
Starting point is 00:19:11 inside the crack of the machine. Yeah. It's the seer inside the crack of the machine. Miles, did you just get that from chat GBT? No, bro. I've been running like kind of low stakes cults for a minute now. Yeah. I'm just like, you'll stakes Colts for a minute. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I'm just like, you'll give me like 10 bucks here and there. No, we ain't got to hang out. You don't got to see me. Is this the solution? It's all you miles. I'm just having to come to my actual human human watch. Oh, let me see that chat. GPT.
Starting point is 00:19:39 I just beat the shit out of a phone and I'm like, is this your king? That's right. I think it's like not that surprised. Like I've talked before about how like a lot of really smart people that I grew up with either went into finance or advertising. Like those were like the things that paid the best for people to go into. So it's not surprising that we have a world that is run by just finding ways for finance to make a bunch of money without consequences.
Starting point is 00:20:14 Advertising, it's not a surprise that everything is just built on convincing you to consume things and now we're in this consumerist vortex to apocalyptic vortex. I think AI, all of the programming talent and technological know-how and next-generation shit is just being used to trick people into thinking they're having a meaningful conversation with someone. It's not surprising that it's as powerful as it is, you know, it's like where all the money and resources are being funded. It's just like so stupid that that's the thing that is getting all the attention
Starting point is 00:20:57 and all the talent, you know, we used to like build roads and shit. We used to build a highway across the country. build roads and shit. We used to build a highway across the country. Well, yeah. Now it's like, yeah. Now he builds Reddit threads on Reddit threads, on Reddit threads. Yeah. And that's- Nesting Reddit threads.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Nesting to all of Reddit threads. Right. Totally. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. We're in the human isolation business, really, is what it feels like it's boiling down to now. Like, and now it's just like, okay, we found a way to further isolate people in a time when we are crying out for human connection. Yeah. Yeah. We get to talk to Han Solo, bro. Shit's tight.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Wait, wait, wait. You can talk to Han Solo. Yeah. Wait a second. Wait a second. Yeah, dude. Yeah. All right. No overrated, Holly. We're just going underrated today. Uh, I mean, I think another, I have another underrated. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Can I just say one more underrated? Yeah. I think underrated are, I don't know how to classify this, but I just thought it was so funny. I couldn't something about the fact that, I don't know. Okay. Last time I was on, I actually think I was the first person to talk about
Starting point is 00:21:59 Scandival on the show. Okay. I still follow, I follow the scandals, I follow the Bravo scandals, whatever. One of them though, Jack Taylor, who I think we all know who that is by now, right? I know Jack Taylor. Yeah. Jack? You sure?
Starting point is 00:22:16 Collective side. You know who Jack? Do you know who Jack Taylor is? Yeah, I watched the season early on. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. People get it now. On a recent episode, this is so funny.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I think burner phones are both underrated and overrated because Jax Taylor has a burner account and he named it and this is just the best name. He's a burner account. He named it Frank Dremann. Dremann, Frank Dremann. Police, police squad. So he goes on accounts and he like comments on bad stuff about him.
Starting point is 00:22:53 And it's Frank Dremann, very official comment. And you're like, I think he deserves an apology. I think he deserves an apology. Dremann like that's so funny. Can you get the character name right? He has been known to sometimes accidentally, I know exactly. And he's sometimes known to accidentally message his friends from this account.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Like he's so deep in his own fucked up brain, but he does it and he's just like someone will say, hey, Jack, you messaged me from Frank Dreman. And he's just like, who? Hacked, hacked. Hacked, hacked. Hacked, hacked, hacked, hacked. Hacked. No, that person messaged you from there.
Starting point is 00:23:30 He's spying on me. Yeah, he hacks my account and I'm glad about it. He seems pretty chill. Frank Dremond, man. I'm just realizing I'm going to use Frank Dremond on every single name ever for the rest of my life. If I go bowling, I'm Frank Dremond. Yeah. If I play video game, I'm motherfucking Frank Dremond on every single name ever for the rest of my life. If I go bowling, I'm Frank Dremond. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:46 If I play video game, I'm motherfucking Frank Dremond, baby. You're on the ground, a.k.a. Frank Dremond. Yeah, you go to any time you need to put a name down for an order at a restaurant. Yeah, Frank Dremond. Oh, you got some Frank Dremond. Yeah, you hear me now. If you ever look for me, my name at a hotel, Frank Dremond, is it just more upsetting? Now says Colt just heard that, did you see Colt just heard that?
Starting point is 00:24:07 Is it more upsetting to us because we like comedy that were like we're comedians that hearing Frank Dremond be called Frank Dremond be Frank Dremond? It's like, what the fuck are you saying? You idiot. And he on a show was like, I named it after the naked gun. They in real guy, in real time, they were like, you got it wrong. Yeah, buddy. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Buddy, buddy. So he's both acknowledged it and then also just not acknowledged it. I just think it makes me want to have a burner account. And I'm just going to think about my name, which is obviously Frank Dremond, but like how I can, how I can build off of Frank Dremond lore. Of course, dude. That's my next goal. Everyone knows Frank Dremond from the Naked Guns movie.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And obviously played by Laszlo Nelson, dude. Yeah. I think there's some sequels. While the Naked Gun movie is coming out. Oh, is this all connected? Yeah, it almost definitely is. Whoa, Jack Taylor, the power you wield. I have no idea.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Liam Neeson is in a chair in a dark room somewhere going, exactly, exactly. Yes, talk more about it, Holly Brown. Talk more about it. Oh, you're in on it too? Help me spin this spider web. Holly doesn't know, but yeah, we're all puppets in the- In the Leslie Nielsen game.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Yeah, I say Leslie Nielsen. All right, so this is a loose theory that I have- Laszlo Nelson, yeah. Laszlo Nelson, don't- This is a loose theory that I have that they cast Liam Neeson because his name sounds like Leslie Nielsen. They were just like, I don't know, maybe Liam Neeson? Yes.
Starting point is 00:25:50 Exactly. Got a lot of the sounds. Greenlighting sounds. Let's take a quick break. And we'll be right back. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies.
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Starting point is 00:28:07 Have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes. But there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that taser told them. called this Taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley
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Starting point is 00:30:24 Bad news over the weekend. Yeah. So as we talked about in yesterday's episode, bad news, I'd say. Bad news over the weekend. Yeah. Illegal wars that circumvent the power of Congress are always bad, I'd say. I'd say so. I'd say so. Doesn't seem like a hot cake. So there's one of those happening.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Everyone's like, oh, damn, did you hear what Iran said? Oh, did you see what Trump said? He's playing his role as big, big, tough bomber guy. It's just like kind of a throwback to the original concerns where we were like, you can't make this guy president. Like he's a fucking idiot. Like he just does stuff to be like, I don't know, to surprise people. He's a, he seems like he's like plotting a fucking like a season of 24.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Like that seems to be how how he goes through his life. That seems to be what motivates him is just like, how do I pack in the maximum drama? Anyways, with this military operation that was terrible, and I wish I'd gone even worse than it did, he fucked up kind of, right? Like, he's just a fucking, he just, he says everything out loud all the time because he's senile and for him, there's no such thing as operational security. I mean, this entire administration, there's no such thing as operational security.
Starting point is 00:31:38 The person who like was, had been told to not do an interview with the Atlantic cause they were going to be mean to him. And the way the Atlantic reporters got around that is calling him and being like, is this Donald Trump is like speaking. And they were like, okay, we're going to do a three hour interview. Okay. What would you like to know? And I don't like you them and yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:59 He just no sense of the elderly are become lonely. They can't have phones like this. But again, the bar is so low that they're like, can't believe it. Zero leaks detected from this one. I'll just play this like right after the years that they're like, because obviously Fox News will also try and help their friend Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth. But I just want to play this thing of like, wow, what a fucking amazing job at operational security. More according to the president.
Starting point is 00:32:31 The other thing I can point out, Brett, is that this is an operation in the last 18 years since I've been at the Pentagon. I've never seen such operational security. There was nobody speaking about this, any of the preparations. There was a complete lockdown, almost a blackout of information for the last few days. Unless you literally listen to what Donald Trump says or posts on social media. But does he think that he can cover it up every time he goes, you don't know what I'm going to do? Like he'll say everything he's going to do and then he goes,
Starting point is 00:33:02 but you don't know that I'm going to do it. You don't know. And so his brain is like, oh, well now I've effectively, like they have no idea. They have no idea. It's called dramatic tension. Ever heard of it? I mean, I have. I didn't realize that applied to here, Mr. President.
Starting point is 00:33:17 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I told him. The second he was like, we might do something in the next two weeks. I was like, he ain't doing shit. Cause that's like, that's his favorite thing is like in the next two weeks. But was like he ain't doing shit Cuz that's like that's his favorite thing is like in the next two weeks But again, I think that was just him to be like be non-committal and then enough Hawks got to him and he's like, yeah Okay, let's just do it. Damn. It is so true though of a lot of men
Starting point is 00:33:36 I know where I we literally have a game called you won't where if I want them to do something I go you won't I won't cut my arms off? Oh yeah, yeah. You won't. You won't. See you try to stop me. Yeah, now that I'm thinking of it, it applies to another tattoo that a male friend of mine got
Starting point is 00:33:57 where somebody else said, you won't. And then he goes, will, I fucking will. And then he did. So we need to keep tattoo guns away from people away from men only women can get tattoos Here on out. That's just my what I'm running on is only one My valley tattoo I can cover it up though I know you said it. You made your point.
Starting point is 00:34:21 You made your point. I can cover it up though. And to be fair, so Miles's Valley tattoo, if you've ever seen one of those posters of like a town and it has all the like 40 different monuments, cartoon drawn in. Exaggerated, yeah. With like little like local celebrities.
Starting point is 00:34:39 There's Henry's tacos. There's the hand car wash on Ventura that's holding the little hand, the little pink corvette. Yeah, I got them all. It's badly infected. It's massive and just, woof. I was thinking of getting the hand car wash as a tattoo though. That's kind of fun.
Starting point is 00:34:54 You know, the place I'm doing the show is called the Valley Relics Museum. Yeah, yeah. And I have a hat that says Valley Relic on it now and I was considering getting a tattoo. I thought that was right. Valley Relic. It is. Maybe add it on. On your was considering getting a tattoo. I thought that was right. Valley Relic, you know? Maybe add it on. On your forehead?
Starting point is 00:35:08 Like just so you take the hat off and it's still there? Like the lady that said, had Drake tatted on her forehead back in the day? That's gonna be the new trend is, I'm trend forecasting today, is when you take your hat off, it's the same insignia. The same logo, wow. Sort of like Inglorious Basterds.
Starting point is 00:35:23 Yeah, so it'll kind of be like NASCAR, but for your forehead, you know, you just take your, you take your merch off, you're still promoting. Still got sponsors. Yeah, so send me that. Obviously, shout out to NordVPN on my forehead. So for instance, this kind of makes sense of things, like when he was like, everybody should evacuate Tehran.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Right. That was because he just wanted to attack Iran like that day. And like, they were like, motherfucker, what are you talking about? So the Pentagon had to literally launch a decoy bombing mission, specifically because his social media posts were the biggest threat to the operations secrecy. And so they sent a B-2 out over the Pacific to try and be like, we're coming from this side. They did the old like, look at my hand over here. Walk, hit you from the right.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Jesus Christ. It was flawless. Well, I mean, again, like, yeah, this was such a tight operation, except for the part when Donald Trump's like, I want to do that now. And I don't care what anyone says. I'm posting it on truth social. And now you're actually having to like fly military aircraft to keep the ruse up that this is as serious as he says it's going to be anyway.
Starting point is 00:36:36 So I think we're all great. And I, all I think about now is as you know, there are all these headlines about now, obviously America is really concerned about security because what would be the retaliation from Iran. One of the heads of counterterrorism is that guy who's 22 years old who used to work at a grocery store. I forgot. Oh my God. Who among us didn't used to work at a grocery store? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I mean, that's true. Yeah, but not yesterday, 22 years young. His mind is nimble. It is like, it is really like, I feel like the, the way that people are getting jobs is just like fixing his wifi, you know, like he's just, he's just an old person who's like mystified by technology. It's just the person scamming him comes in is like, you know what? Actually, can I get a job?
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yeah. Like they're an old, but you're in charge of anti-terrorism is still bad, right? He probably hired, like, you know, people come to like doing door to doors, like, yo, I got this really wonderful natural cleaner. It gets rid of all kinds of different, different things. Oil, blood, blah, blah, blah. I love him.
Starting point is 00:37:41 I love him. Get him. Yeah. And he's, he now runs the CIE. He's in charge runs the CIP Oh my god cut co sellers everywhere That could have been me mr. President. Mr. President. Give me that penny really quick I want to see what these cut co scissors can do to a penny
Starting point is 00:37:55 Now anybody who has a friend who's so cut co, you know the famous Let me chop a penny in half with these scissors move. Absolutely. But anyway, this is the guy Thomas Fugate Who is the fucking- Yeah, Fugate. Fugate ballot. Currently the leadership role in the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships, known as CP3, but again, this is having to do with our ability to keep America safe. So it's all-
Starting point is 00:38:19 I don't want someone keeping me safe whose shoulders are that small. Like, his shoulders were He can't even shoulder this. Yeah, he can't he can't shoulder it. He can't shrug and he he oh one eyebrow permanently Uplifted he looks like he would be like the bad guy in Richie like one of those 90s, you know, like he's yeah, he looks like cartoon child bad guy Yeah, he couldn't look anymore like a child like got, he looks like cartoon child bad guy. Yeah. He couldn't look any more like a child. Like he just, he looks like a, you know, doppelganger, like evil, evil version of fucking Kevin McAllister. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:58 He's like, sort of like what Francis was to Peewee in Peewee's Big Adventure. He's like, hello, Peewee. Like that's Fugate's energye's big adventure. It's like, hello, Peewee. That's Fugate's energy is like the bad guy who's like, my daddy wants to buy your store. You're like, fuck off, Fugate. What's the bike? What in this world is the bike that we're all trying to? I don't even know. That's what's crazy.
Starting point is 00:39:20 The enriched uranium. The enriched uranium. He did after he cut that penny in half, he did pull it out from Trump's ear. And so Trump was like, wow, how'd you do that? How'd you do that? All right. Also just a headline that caught my attention for some reason. I don't know why. There's a New York Times article that Trump is thinking about lifting the ban on asbestos, the headline of the first paragraph. The move, which could halt enforcement of the ban for several years during the reconsideration,
Starting point is 00:39:55 is a major blow to a decades long battle by health advocates to prohibit the carcinogenic mineral in all its forms. That's not just a blow to the health advocates. A blow to health advocates. That means many people potentially can get preventable forms of cancer like mesothelioma. Mesothelioma. Isn't there a disease called asbestosis or two?
Starting point is 00:40:19 Like it has a disease named after it. I'm pretty sure. I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think Trump just really likes, you know, amazing, incredible, he heard that best was in the word asbestos and he was like, sounds pretty chill, sounds pretty good, let's bring it back.
Starting point is 00:40:36 That ass is nice and that ass is bestest. Yeah, I'm just kidding. It's, crystalline asbestos is banned in more than 50 countries for its link to lung cancer and mesothelioma. White asbestos, the one that he's trying to lift the ban on, has been imported for use in the United States for roofing materials, textiles, and cement, as well as gaskets, clutches, brake pads, and other automotive parts. So as long as you don't, you know, live in a place that has had a
Starting point is 00:41:05 house fire in the last couple years or, you know, 3000 or as long as you're not in a place where there are automobiles that are using their brakes. Oh, good. Oh, good. Also it's used in clurry manufacturing. So don't go swimming. As long as, like, it doesn't affect you, it's just the health advocates who are taking this as a blow. Right. Are they saying, like, what specifically, what industry is like, come on, man, let us use the bestest again? All those. All those. You know, like anybody, like that's, like, yeah, I saw someone asking, like, who is this for? Why would they do this on Twitter? And part of me was immediately like, this is just how America works.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Like corporations are the only entities with rights and the only right that matters for them is the right to like make as much money as possible. And this stands in the way of that. So like 50 other countries, they're like, well, we have to protect the human beings, but like, that's not how shit works. But I don't know, just because that seems to be true over and over, doesn't mean we shouldn't ask those questions. Like I, I gotta say, like if the New York times, like just answer those
Starting point is 00:42:20 questions, like those big questions, who is this for? And why would they do this? Like, okay, literally who are the people pushing for this? It's like they're doing it through lobbying. They're doing it through who, like, who are they? What are their names? What, what are the companies that they work for, but also like, what are their names, the people who are doing this, just make it harder for people to get away with this shit.
Starting point is 00:42:44 Like how? I don't know. I like, we, we talked last year about this New Yorker article that came out like decades too late, but it was about like how Johnson and Johnson knew about the risk of baby powder, like that it was a, like full of carcinogens. And rather than like fixing it or making it public, they knew about it in the seventies and they like hired a lobbyist and paid them $4 million a year, and that lobbyist ends up being Brett Kavanaugh's dad. So a real legacy.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh, Jack, please. Am I that justice? That guy ends up being Justice Kavanaugh's dad. Justice Beer's dad. And it's just like, I don't know, just fucking, why can't you do that reporting as it's happening? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:31 Even if we knew who it was, I'm thinking back to when we found out that Tampons had lead in them. Right. And I'm like, I knew exactly which companies did it. I saw the labels, everyone knew, and then yet I'm in the tampon aisle and I'm like, well, I've lived this long. And then I just grab the next box of lead
Starting point is 00:43:50 to put up my vagina. So, I think we deserve to know so we can make the choices. But at the same time, I'm not shocked enough. We all find out nothing changes, new cycle moves on. We're all sitting in our apartments where our landlord knows they have asbestos. I just want to stop moving on. I want to like start getting mad at people, being like, that's the guy. Like that's-
Starting point is 00:44:13 Stop moving on more. Hold the fuck up one second. Start holding the fuck on. Yeah. Yeah, we're all- Hold on for one more day. There it is. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Wilson Phillips? You rang? Wow. Wow. Wilson Phillips? You rang? Wow. Hello. Your other AKM. That should be your burn. I'm Frank Dremond and I'm Wilson Phillips. All of them. My full name is Wilson. Wilson Frank Dremond Phillips.
Starting point is 00:44:40 The thing is too, a lot of this stuff, people aren't going to realize how deadly this is till years past I'm really close friends Dads passed away from mesothelioma because he was he was exposed to asbestos on Navy ships during the Vietnam War Yeah, and they were just ripping the shit off of like the fucking in the ships with no respirators cuz I don't give a shit and And I ended up getting mesothelioma was really fucking tragic
Starting point is 00:45:06 And I think this is just one of those things again because it's one of those Carcinogens to or they're like what's not like immediate like people are gonna fuck around and find out like decades later That we can just kind of hold off on the terrible ripple effects and then you're like, oh my god What were they exposing people to? Will happen but then the lawsuits will take forever as well. And then this, yeah, it'll just get it. They're the stuff of like late night infomercials. That's like, if you are somebody, you know, it's been exposed to, you know,
Starting point is 00:45:34 it's not, it's just a story that happens to other people, you know, uh, somewhere far away until it happens to you. But yeah, it's just we all die from cancer. Like based on a decision someone made 15 years ago in a boardroom because they wanted to pay for fucking. I saw Hillary Clinton, her account posted, make asbestos great again. And part of me was like, wow,
Starting point is 00:46:03 Hillary, good one. Really good. Wow. Slow clap. Wait, she really just posted that? I don't know when she posted it, but I know I saw her account say, make asbestos great again. But it was just so, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:46:16 said in such a way that was like, wait a minute, has anyone thought this yet? Like not as if she's like, look at this headline, isn't it crazy? She was just trying to land that sick joke. Oh, she posted. What is this? Make us best is great again. No. Yeah, that was the tweet in response to this New York Times article. Oh, what is this? I honestly don't. Make us best is great again.
Starting point is 00:46:40 But like if she so in the alternate universe where she is president, right? A lot of things I'm sure would not be as bad as they are. But like, isn't there part of you that could imagine a world where she's like, and actually asbestos is like, you know, like for somebody who's like a victim to like money to influence. Oh, yeah. Yeah. She's not a person who can tweet, make us best is great again and have me
Starting point is 00:47:07 immediately know she's joking. Yeah, exactly. Oh man. I'm like so many people that I know that are super in corporate jobs, they'll say things that are defending this corporate job. But then they'll say both sides. They're so both sides,
Starting point is 00:47:19 even if I know outside of their corporate job, they're very progressive. But you know, yeah, I get it. Yeah. I mean, that's why they were like, she was like, should I tweet, make asbestos great again? And they were like, uh, we're going to need you to like add a little danger field up top and say, what is this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Make them. Yeah. Is that why I heard a comment underneath said no respect. No respect. I get no respect. Please take my husband. Uh, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Just like great shoes, great books take you places through
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Starting point is 00:52:02 or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And everybody. And we're back. And it is thank you to Zeitgang for, you know, making sure I was aware that it is the 50th anniversary of my favorite movie of all time. Since the age of three. Joel's. So you're 53. I am 53.
Starting point is 00:52:28 Yeah, I did see it. The day I was born, my parents, uh, or the day I turned three, my parents said, why you're like this? Okay. Yeah. He's 53. He's got a Jaws brain. And he thinks Mandy Moore and Hillary Duffer, the same person.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Don't get them started on Harry Potter books. Oh, brother. Kids have it too easy. The Harry Potter kids? Fifteen of their classmates died. So this past weekend was the 50th anniversary of Jaws, which huge deal in Martha's Vineyard, first of all. Oh, right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Where it was shot and the local businesses were out selling Jaws themed merch to tourists, including desserts, shark candles. Mm-hmm. Hell yeah. I'm sorry. Yeah. What? You said, oh, desserts and candles.
Starting point is 00:53:21 I thought you said dessert candles. Dessert shark candles? Desserts and dessert candles. Dessert shark candles? Desserts and shark candles. Yes. The Martha's Vineyard Museum has an exhibition of Jaws memorabilia. Okay. I don't know what it replaced, but maybe like chapiquitic memorabilia,
Starting point is 00:53:40 including the one-eyed corpse head from Jaws, if anybody remembers the jumpscare. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks terrible. Like it looks so absolute shit. Yeah. To the point where you're like, well, this was in a movie. I don't need to see this shit. It's not great. It does. It does look like Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Then floating down. It does. It really does. And like the hair on it looks like what would happen if Donald Trump got wet and got out of a pool. It does. You'd be like, ooh. It kind of looks like him walking off Air Force One anytime he's ever walked off Air Force One.
Starting point is 00:54:16 He's just. Yeah. Stumbley. Yeah. Just think about this wind. All right. So my favorite tie in. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Narragansett beer released a bunch of beer cans that looked like the ones that Quint drank while he was drunk driving the Orca around the Atlantic in pursuit of the shark. Is that a real beer? That's not like a, that was like a real local beer, I'm guessing. I don't know. Narragansett beer is back to make waves all summer long. Wow.
Starting point is 00:54:44 So it might've been a beer that existed and came back. And why did it stop? I don't know. Narragansum beer is back to make waves all summer long. Wow. It might've been a beer that existed and came back. Why did it stop? And now making waves all summer long. It's like a white supremacy controversy, we kind of shuttered operations. Wait, what? Wow, it's a bath.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Okay, so it really is that thing. Okay. Yeah, I do wonder, I can't tell from the top, but I wonder if it's got the pool tabs. Because I remember they are opening the cans in a way that like Americans would not know how to open that anymore. That's true. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:55:15 I mean, obviously people who were there, they'll be like, oh, shit, I was there when we used to crush a beer like this. But I feel like Jack when he was three, three. Thank you. I could see I could see TikTok videos like, OK, so I just bought the 12 pack of the Narangans is that unboxing for the Narragascent Lagerbeer nineteen seventy five edition. And it's got this weird thing on top. I don't know how to open it. So I guess I'm just going to maybe use a can opener on the top and just.
Starting point is 00:55:45 Yeah, that's I mean, great, great. They're profiting off of it. Who else? Build a bear, which I think is good in a movie that's most shocking scene in retro. Like you watch it now, you're like, yo, they just popped that child like a balloon full of blood. This in this PG rated movie, a child gets eaten and turned into a literal fountain of blood in front of his mother's eyes. That that happens.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And they're like, build a bear jaws. I'm not shocked. Build a bird. Didn't they do like an adult line bear jaws. I'm not shocked. Build a bear. Didn't they do like an adult line once? Not that long ago. Am I crazy? Did I dream this? That Build-A-Bear did like a adults naughty line?
Starting point is 00:56:33 Like they were dressed a little kinky? Yes, I think so. I think they did. And so I'm not, I'm actually less- Oh, after dark? Yes, Build-A-Bear after dark. Oh, what is this, Cinemax? We don't gotta do all that.
Starting point is 00:56:47 Furries are taking over. Yeah, there's a community out there that would appreciate that. I actually respect them being like, look man, this is 50% of our business, right? Just FYI. But I think they should lean all the way in, like make the Build-A-Bear the opening credits person
Starting point is 00:57:04 of Jaws, the opening sequence of the girl swimming in the water. Make it a character, like go full throttle with this Build-A-Bear Jaws. These after dark ones seem pretty tame. They're just more like, it's just a little bit cheekier, like a cat that is drinking wine. That's fun.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Oh, wow, not what I thought. I thought it was a straight up like chains and whips. Or maybe I missed that one. Another one's like a bear with some devil horns. Maybe that Not what I thought. I thought it was a straight up like chains and whips. Or maybe I missed that one. Another one's like a bear with some devil horns. Maybe that's what I wanted. But also, like, why are they including? Is this all build a bear shit? Why are they including like pride dolls as being like part of the after dark?
Starting point is 00:57:38 Oh, no, they're losing me. And nobody got to be in the dark. But at least they have real legit pride was not doing like the target. Like, and here is our, here's our neutral tones pride. Here's our Manila envelope bear with, if you open the inside of the envelope, it says pride, but on the outside and not really like, it says don't open this. Do not open this.
Starting point is 00:58:00 It looks like they were in seal team six. Yeah. Wait, what? It's really cool. It's really cool. Line Yeah, that's right. Wait, what? It's really cool. It's really cool. Line of Jaws wine. What color wine? Red.
Starting point is 00:58:09 Okay, good. Red liquid. You might have heard of it. Ever heard of red liquid before? That's fucking nuts. A lot of that coming around in the movie Jaws. And then of course, the worst surviving member, the one one Richard Dreyfus Wait, so he fell off. He's like a piece of shit now. Oh, yeah. I didn't know that. Oh, yeah, Jack
Starting point is 00:58:31 Put me on the game transphobic rants Really yeah, yeah, what a fucking loser For a while. Yeah, and just I mean like has been grumpy and fucked up for a long time, but then now has like listened to one too many Manosphere podcasts or like watched too much Fox News and just- Oh, he said it at a fucking JAWS screening? Yeah. He's using his platform. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. He's a, so he took a break from transphobic rants to sell a new line of jaws items, including signed photos, t-shirts and autographed golden shark jaws. Why are they obsessed with gold?
Starting point is 00:59:17 Oh my God. Signed by him. $150. Yeah. No one buy that. Richard Dreyfus, you have a debt to pay for being in Crippen Dorf's tribe Where you pretended to be an indigenous people with Jenna Elfman? I didn't forget that shit What are you gonna cancel me for next Crippen doors tribe?
Starting point is 00:59:38 This woke stuff is gonna Come until it swims up and bites us all in the ass. God. Nice tie in the bite. Yeah. Let's just hug your Carlson by the way. Hug your Carlson's whole shit is just young Dreyfus getting into old Dreyfus. First of all, it's just we do live in the movie Jaws. But this movie, the movie that keeps it, you know, where instead of getting gloriously burst like a blood balloon in the jaws of a prehistoric killing machine, we just like, you know, die 15 years later because the greedy mayor decided to put asbestos back in our
Starting point is 01:00:19 clothes. But this just feels like a missed opportunity. Miles kindly, a week ago, brought a story about a giant great white shark. The largest ever recorded great white shark, not just anyone that was seen. I believe the phrase was feasting. Feasting, just outside the outer banks. The outer banks. It was like they were like,
Starting point is 01:00:48 if anybody has spent their whole life yearning to get their whole shit bit off by a great white shark. This is your opportunity. Just put on a bunch of, go to the grocery store, build a suit out of live lobsters, and just jump out into the outer banks. I would have fulfilled my purpose in this lifetime.
Starting point is 01:01:12 But yeah, I don't know. I fucked up. I always wanted to be the Kintner boy. Look, you have a chance, Jack. You have a chance still. Yeah. I'm sure your kids would understand if you said, y'all daddy needs to go get his whole shit bit by a great white. On the 50th anniversary. I will not be coming back.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Yeah, Jack, you still into Joles? Yeah, hell yeah. That's what my cousin said. Joles. The Philadelphia accent. Oh, that's what it is. Yeah. Joles.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Yeah, yeah. That's what it is. I was worried for you. Yeah. Joles what it is. I was worried for you. Yeah. Yeah. Jules Holly Brown. Such a pleasure having you. Holly Brown. Thanks for having me. Where can people find you, follow you?
Starting point is 01:01:53 Yeah. Where do they find you this Friday? This Friday? This Friday night. No, we do not stand Katy Perry at this stand up show. My favorite astronaut? Yeah. Well, we got some talking to do, Jack. I got to sit you down, Katy Perry. He used to say his favorite astronaut was Stanley Kubrick,
Starting point is 01:02:12 because he believed that moon landing were fake. So I'm glad he moved on. That's true. Progress. This Friday, there's a show at the Valley Relics Museum, which is a really incredible local valley Museum that's like truly mind blowing. I don't know if you've been, Miles have you been there? No, I've seen the photos. It's so, so cool.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Like I just honestly, I walked in there and immediately knew I wanted to do something that was for our life. But yes, this Friday you can get the tickets on Eventbrite. It's called One Night in the Valley. You can follow the show at Salty AF Show on Instagram and me at Holly Brown Comedy. I'll be posting lots of updates because we have a lot of fun surprises for the night. And we're raising, we're gonna raise a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:02:53 You know, I don't, there's a lot going on and I don't want this to get lost in conversation. Yeah, you know, that all the things that are impacting LA, this is still one of them. It is still one. Especially because you're raising money for people that were in the Eaton Fire, which is getting so much less attention and emphasis because everything is the balance aids.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Right, exactly. Which is one of the reasons why I think Altadena suffered in the way that it did because even the resources were emphasized in that part of the city. There's still fundraisers happening and I don't think people know that this is still an ongoing thing. I I mean and I don't blame them that's part you know you can't be mad at our collective overwhelm but I you know I thank you guys for letting me come on and talk about it because I just want to make sure we can raise some more money always forever. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Pull up if you're local get out there. Oh and there's an open bar forgot to mention that bar. Oh, and there's an open bar. I forgot to mention that bar. Oh, against it on.
Starting point is 01:03:48 I was supposed to go to a wedding this weekend, but you know what? Looks like your plans have been changed, Miles. Roll up with those thighs out. I will. Free bar? Okay. What was that? That's the Chernobyl siren.
Starting point is 01:04:05 Holly, is there work of media that you've been enjoying? I saw an artist make something on Instagram and it said, it just spoke to me because it said, it was by Doodle by Meg is her name. And it was a beautiful collage that said, everything I learned from late stage capitalism came from Josie and the Pussycats. Yeah. And I clicked save immediately and I've sent it to everybody I know,
Starting point is 01:04:34 cause it's so true. And I think we keep continuing to learn how true that is, how ahead of their time, the few satire movies were right then in 2000. Why we didn't listen, because these movies flopped and we didn't listen hard enough to Mystery Men and Josie and the Pussycats. That's my other platform. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:57 There you go. You're full of underrated, so I'll tell you what. Hell yeah. Miles, where can people find you as their work of media you've been enjoying? Find me everywhere at miles of gray. Join Jack and I for the final episode of our story to basketball podcast. My mind as we discuss the end of the NBA finals. Congratulations to the Oklahoma City Thunder. Yeah, my heart goes out to Indiana Pacers. Yeah. And also Tyrese Halliburton.
Starting point is 01:05:25 I maybe we shouldn't have insisted that you get that leg bone tender when you insisted on playing with a calf injury, but sorry. I hate to see you pay the price. It was, it was a wonderful series. Wonderful series. Also, if you want to hear me talk 90 day fiance, that's over at 420 day fiance. Um, let's see a couple posts. I like this one, uh, is from, uh, from, uh, from, uh, from me talk 90-day fiance, that's over at 420dayfiance.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Let's see, a couple posts I like. This one is from June at juniper.beer on B-Sky, posted, right-wingers, Donald Trump isn't doing regime change. Donald Trump, we're doing regime change. Right-wingers, of course we are doing regime change. Yes, feels very, very, very on point. Why would you not do regime change? Yes. And then another one, little lamb at puddle of brain.beastguy.social posted,
Starting point is 01:06:12 I understand that the couple has prepared their own prompts that resulted in vows. Oh no. Oh shit, that's happening right now probably somewhere. Too real. Yeah, you got to's happening right now probably somewhere. Yeah. Too real. Yeah, you got to vet that wedding you go to on Friday. You got to make sure that they wrote their own girls.
Starting point is 01:06:30 Luckily, I know that one person is a talented writer and another is someone who works in tech who is also very cynical about that. So I feel like these are coming straight from the heart. They were a talented writer even before Chad GPT came along and showed us on. No comment. I'm not going to cast dispersions on their talent, but maybe, Jack, I don't know. All right. A couple works of media I've been enjoying. I like to tweet from Lucy Rodin, who tweeted,
Starting point is 01:06:56 carrying a baby for nine months and then naming it Chet is insane. Wow. Yep. I respect it. Shout out to Shay Holmgren. And then, uh, Kristen tweeted, Flower Company, what if we sell it in a paper bag that's not fully sealed at the bottom? You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on blue sky at Jack OB, the number one. You can find us on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on Blue Sky at Jack OB the number one.
Starting point is 01:07:28 You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. And in the description you will find the footnotes. Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey miles Is there a song that you think that people might enjoy? Yes, there is actually it's not necessarily a song It's actually a fucking Instagram account that posts really dope
Starting point is 01:07:58 videos about like samples and where they come from and Editing the sample into eventually what the actual track is. But the account is called Just B-Man No DJ. And the whole page is just taking these tracks, giving you just sort of how these obscure little moments from a country song ends up like in an outcast track. And it's like really, it's very, very satisfying. So just check that account out from throws that no they know But anyway, this account has like I think sampling is one of the most beautiful parts about hip-hop and just sample based music
Starting point is 01:08:32 is the ability to reimagine something pitching it down stretching it out chopping it up and credit to just be man no DJ because he Painstakingly is figuring out like how to recreate all of these in the same way. So just check it out. Just be man. No DJ. Just be man. No DJ.
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