The Daily Zeitgeist - Suboptimal = F***d, Colonel ZAMMders 9.12.19

Episode Date: September 12, 2019

In episode 472, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Closure: The Podcast That Never Ends host Eli Olsberg to discuss the new Apple releases, Elizabeth Warren scaring Wall Street executives, the 2020... election polls, Fox New's trying to figure out if we need another 9/11, John Bolton refusing to leave quietly, Hasbro's Ms. Monopoly, Trump administration going after vaping, the Caroline Calloway essay, KFC's sexy Colonel Sanders, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. What we’re still waiting for after Apple’s iPhone 11 event2. Jim Cramer Says Wall Street Execs Are Panicking About Elizabeth Warren Presidency: ‘She’s Gotta Be Stopped!’3. Joe Biden and Elizabeth Warren are tied at 26 percent in this new poll4. Trump lashes out after poll says he would lose badly in 2020 to Biden, Warren, Sanders and Harris5. Trump is trying to discredit recent polls because he’s losing in nearly all of them6. Poll: Ahead of debate, Warren leads in favorability among Democratic voters7. Ainsley Earhardt remembers September 11th: "Many people out there didn't vote for President Bush but they were supportive of our country ... No one was kneeling when the national anthem was played. How do we get back to that without another 9/11?"8. Andrea Mitchell: Bolton 'not leaving quietly,' will return to TV to bash Trump9. Hasbro announces Ms. Monopoly, 'the first game where women make more than men'10. Trump administration readies ban on flavored e-cigarettes amid outbreak of vaping-related deaths11. I Was Caroline Calloway12. KFC is apparently creating a Colonel Sanders dating sim13. KFC Invites Fans Along For Its Crazy Marketing Ride14. WATCH: Mildlife - The Magnificent Moon Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:21 It's Thursday, September 12th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Watch Me Milk, This Here Almond. Watch Me Milk, Milk, This Here Almond. It's courtesy of Ruthless Fudge, at Ruthless Fudge. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Tuscan days are calling back to me On my hands and knees I'm falling
Starting point is 00:02:47 How I yearn for you Well I'm stuck inside studio walls These microphones can't hold my soul In Tuscany It's you that cheese is falling Oh I dream of you Wow. Feels so right And I'll show the world it lully I just simply I just simply Must leave this part behind me
Starting point is 00:03:29 Till then I'll just date, dream, and smoke weed Another hot one. Guys. Another masturbatory AKA for Miles Gray. I like how you're offering to tell the world about Italy because I feel like Italy needs somebody to tell the world about it. People aren't aware. I do feel that some places do need an advocate.
Starting point is 00:04:00 Some places, you know, their beauty just can't be transmitted in conventional ways through print or video or advertising. Sculpture. Art. Thousands of movies. Where am I? You're back in the States. Sorry. Your stateside. Yeah, I know. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Anyway, shout out to Christy Yamaguchi-Main for that one. For rapid response, a.k.a. I asked and I hath received. And keep them coming. Who needs virtual reality when you can just be transported back to Italy with an a.k.a. Nickelback, a.k.a. Nickelback inspired a.k.a. Miles, we're almost at season 100.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Dude, somebody have my voice. Hold on. Oh, my God. Oh, God. Oh, God. Big Sean. Oh, God God. This might have been it. Oh, God. Oh, God. Big Sean. Oh, God. Big Sean.
Starting point is 00:04:48 No, yeah. Wow. 100 weeks, huh? Yeah. 100 weeks, man. 100 seasons. Somebody realized online, they're like, I just realized that each week is a season. I was like, welcome.
Starting point is 00:05:00 They broke the code. Yeah. Yeah. Another milestone for us to basically code. Yeah. Yeah. Another milestone for us to basically ignore. Yeah. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian, Mr. Eli Oldsborn. Hi.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Thank you. Happy to be here. Eli Oldsborn. Hey, Oldsborn. How are you? Oldsborn, Oldsburg, Old Man, I was just recently called. Yes. Very recently.
Starting point is 00:05:21 I'm still recording. I still haven't recovered. No, we know. But otherwise, I'm great you're compensating very well with that Goosebumps t-shirt thank you and also have to say I'm never gonna I don't need to watch the Godfather trilogy anymore after that it was so good yeah thank you so much right back to the old country wow which which country is that for you uh Canada I did not expect that one.
Starting point is 00:05:45 I was like, oh, which country is it? But let's say- You know, the old one. Yeah, the old. Well, did you guys ever see that Mad TV sketch where they did the Olive Garden commercial of the Italian family? And they're like never-ending breadsticks, just like the old country. I highly recommend looking that on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:05:59 I actually think that is the best commercial parody of all time. Damn. The Olive Garden commercial. Mad TV coming with the best- Truly. With a very young Ike Barinholtz in the lead. I didn't know he was a Mad TV-man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:11 A Madman? Yes. The original Madman. Isn't that what that show was about? Madman? Yeah, it was about the cast of Mad TV. The first season before Artie Lang and everybody. And then Jon Hamm, he's hiding that he's actually Alfred E. Newman.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Right. Yeah, the whole time. Well, Eli, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. The big reveal, Apple dropped the bomb on the world with some incremental improvements to their phone and watches. We're going to talk about Elizabeth Warren, how she's pulling, how the president is dealing with that pulling. We're going to talk about John Bolton because he wants to make it messy.
Starting point is 00:06:54 He did not want to go out without. Make a scene. Make a scene. We're going to talk about another monopoly. Yo, Hasbro. Hasbro's like, you know what? Done it again. People don't think we have a personality, and we want to let them know we do, and it's bad.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Another one. Boom. Another terrible, terrible Monopoly. We're going to talk about the vape wave because it's about to crash. We're going to talk about that Caroline Calloway essay. We're going to talk about that Caroline Calloway essay, KFC's new continued marketing scheme of just being dumb as hell. So all of that. Dumb is king in advertising.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Plenty more. But first, Eli, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? The Caroline Calloway article. There it is. I went down a super rabbit hole on that one yeah yeah i i didn't know anything about it i i really was i just saw the name kept coming up and i was like this will eventually find its way to me as most things do if you're on social media yeah and then i was like no i actually have to look this up now and but when the article came out and then i was just looking up everything i could about it, and it made me very sad. It's, I mean, we'll talk about it later.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Yeah, yeah. I feel like I was jumping the shark already. Yeah, no, but I know. For those of you listening right now, go read that piece. It's really actually amazing. I mean, we could just get into it now, I guess. You want to save it for later? Let's save it for later.
Starting point is 00:08:20 All right. Let's give people something to look forward to. Yeah, it's just a teaser. Yeah. First, we're going to drag your belly through broken glass it made me happy so we'll talk about uh where where these different responses came from what is something you think is overrated oh i had a i don't remember if i talked about this last time i i think uh food ordering apps i'm i'm done okay all right i did say that yeah okay so you know what i had a backup just in case. Good.
Starting point is 00:08:46 It hasn't even come out yet. Disney Plus. Overrated. Wow. Done. Shots fired. Thumbs down. Shots fully fired. Over.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Not subscribing. You're not subscribing. Why? Philosophically opposed? The content doesn't interest you? Yeah. No, no. Philosophically opposed.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Oh, okay. It's crazy to me. Eventually, I'm probably going to have to give in if there's something I want to watch on there because I don't know what it really means for the Fox catalog yet. I mean, I know that Disney also owns Hulu. Right. And I have Hulu. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:14 So I subscribe. So it's a weird thing to have this position where I'm like, I'm anti-Disney Plus, but I have a Hulu Plus subscription. Right, right, right. So it's not like a high horse thing so much as like, I don't know. I don't want to watch the Lion King reboot. Do you like Star Wars? Enough, but not enough.
Starting point is 00:09:32 But not enough to be excited about the Mandalorian. Yeah, exactly. I'd be like, I'm going to miss the Mandalorian. I don't even know what the Mandalorian is. I guess that gives you an idea. Oh boy, it's a race of bounty hunters anyway. Oh yeah, that's right. It's a transformer that turns from a man to a Mandalorian.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Exactly. Why call it the mandalorian why not call it like you know baba fett life or that fett life baba fett life baby yeah um hunter that's canon now baba fett life but just more is it because you just disney's kind of takeover of the entertainment industry is bothering you? Yeah, and it's upsetting me because I'm learning more stuff they're doing that like you can't show. They're doing something where like if it's a Fox title, you can't show it as like a repertory thing anymore. So let's say during Christmas you want to go watch Die Hard in a movie theater with a group of people who really like Die Hard. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Major movie theaters can't show it. Really? Yeah, there's more to the policy than that. Wait, hold on. So it almost sounds like your opposition is born out of this idea that you can no longer go see Die Hard at a Christmas Eve party. I should have picked Alien because I'm more of an Alien head than a Die Hard head. But the fact that they're putting these restrictions on things that they bought out is really weird. Yeah, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Well, Disney is notoriously cheap and doesn't want to share anything yeah it's insane even if they could fortunately they don't even have a legal department so you can just do it yeah don't worry about getting sued you guys have seen escape from tomorrow right uh i don't know it's escape oh it's a movie a guy made in around 2012 where he shot it entirely oh in disneyland no no yeah no i haven't seen that and netflix bought it and put it up but net but disney didn't fight it because it was gonna make them look worse than if they just let it happen because they knew it wasn't a huge movie right but it uh it's a fucked up movie he really manages to make like a horror movie out of the inside of disney right because people like what is the menacing like it's where does the menace come from it's a
Starting point is 00:11:25 financially stretched stressed parents fist fighting with like these kids who are being like brats and but like as they're going through the ride like you he just keeps seeing fucked up shit and eventually it starts to consume the whole family oh it's absolutely worth seeing that's i don't want to get in it anymore for anyone listening who wants to see it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No spoilers. It's so, so fun. But the Yeti from, what's that one? I already fucked the joke up. Never mind. Yeah, which one is this?
Starting point is 00:11:52 That's not Thunder Mountain. What the fuck is that one called? Yeah, it starts with an M. Matterhorn. Matterhorn. God damn. He's back. He's back, baby.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Welcome back. Yeah, so it is mostly just the way they're going about everything else. And also the fact is they're going to fucking obliterate like every other service. Right. And if this is a sign of how they're going to use the fact that they own everything, that's not great. Yeah, it's not. Well, I think eventually, yeah, like they'll be so selfish. Like we own everything that hopefully that will create a whole sub movement of like, well, look at all this shit operating outside of that. I hope that's what it is. Eventually there'll be so selfish and be like, we own everything. Hopefully that will create a whole sub-movement of like, look at all this shit operating outside of that.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I hope that's what it is. Eventually there'll be some counter-industry. But it's going to become people who are either like, yo, you're either Team Disney Plus or you're Team HBO Max. Meet at the park at sundown for the rumble. It's going to be like the Warriors, except each of us is defined by the streaming platform. You're like, I'm PS View, so I'm kind of like Switzerland. And then the Criterion heads are just going to be hanging at home. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:48 They're not coming out. But y'all wait until they bring the metal books out. Does Criterion have a streaming service? They do. They just started one because Filmstruck got killed by the Time Warner thing. And so Criterion now has their own channel. Wow.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Everyone owns everything, and I don't know anything. Can't keep up with it anymore. I remember when it was- What happened to the good old days when there was just TV? When it was United Artists Cable. Yeah. Or Prime Star. When it was-
Starting point is 00:13:15 It's like if my Asian grandma could watch NHK from the satellite. When it was Stars and Encore. Yeah. When it was Showtime, the movie channel, and Flix. Mm-hmm. With an X. Yeah. It was Showtime, the movie channel and Flix. Mm-hmm. With an X. Ooh. The Starz Encore
Starting point is 00:13:28 movie package. Fusion is the thing that... What was that one thing? Remember the early DVD technology that was like a rental DVD? DivX.
Starting point is 00:13:38 DivX. Yeah. I remember DivX. I was just thinking that dumb shit too and I'm like, hold on, this DVD like basically
Starting point is 00:13:43 was worthless after like 48 hours? Yeah, and it like wipes itself out. It like has like a that dumb shit too. And I'm like, hold on. This DVD basically was worthless after 48 hours? Yeah, and it wipes itself out. It has a parachute on its own. Right. You can only watch it within this period of time, and then the disc is no good. That was insane.
Starting point is 00:13:55 And I think it was the Proto Redbox. You had to go rent it from somewhere. I think so, but then it just fell apart after two months. Shout out to my friend Chris, whose dad bought a DivX player when it came out, and I was like, yo, this is a flex. Also, shout out to DivX for making it for two months. Like, how could anyone on paper be like, yeah, I'll give that a shot.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Right, right. It tells me when to watch it. Right. What is something you think is underrated? The library. Okay. I'll tell you why, because- No, I don't want to know why.
Starting point is 00:14:22 It's too upsetting to hear. I had a friend of mine, another comedian, Jake Weissman was like, I was telling him I wanted to read more. And he's like, yeah, just renew your library card. They actually have literally everything. And if you have even like an iPad or something, you can actually check out everything from there.
Starting point is 00:14:37 But more importantly, they have, if you have a library card, you can use Canopy and Hoopla. I don't know if you've ever heard of these services, but they basically have the entire movie catalog that Prime has, but for free. Oh, really? Yeah. And Criterion, speaking of.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Wow. But they have all that kind of shit. Wait, so you go to the library to watch it? Or how does that rental work? No, you can get it on Roku or – DivX or something? So you rent a blank DVD. Yeah, so you go to a box you go to a DxBox
Starting point is 00:15:05 and it gives you it gives you an hour to watch a two hour movie and then it melts yeah you have to fast forward the movie watch it at 3x you have to decide
Starting point is 00:15:12 what the best parts are what are they beaming the movies into your head or something yeah Clockwork Orange style they strap you down I'm sorry how does it work
Starting point is 00:15:19 there's another yeah it's they're both apps that are on like Roku oh but using your library card allows you to? Yeah. Holy shit. So I think Canopy gives you $10 a month and Hoopla gives you $15 a month.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And yeah, but they have like literally everything, almost everything that's on like Prime and Hulu, you can get off there. Okay. So like First Reformed, for example. Shout out to our tax dollars. Yeah, truly. Subsidizing the film industry. You don't have to go to the library to do that either.
Starting point is 00:15:44 You can literally just, you enter the information on the app. It's first reformed on Prime? It is. I need to watch that. You need to watch it at the library. Yeah. You could rent it on Canopy. Miles, you don't have to go to the library to watch it. You don't have to read books at the library. I don't know. That's not how I grew up doing it.
Starting point is 00:16:00 What is crazy is they also have every DVD that just came out. Even that red box doesn't have it. I went there because I wanted to rent something that I What is crazy is they also have every DVD that just came out. Like even that red box doesn't. Right, right. I was. Oh, really? Yeah, because I went there because I wanted to rent something that I could not find anywhere else. And that was where I had to go.
Starting point is 00:16:11 Priscilla Queen of the Desert. Yes. Great reference. People forget Hugo Weaving, man. They think of him as Agent Smith from The Matrix. So shout out anybody who wants to. Rent. Rent. And consume media.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Get that library card. Yeah, exactly. Rent that. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Bright screens. I can fall asleep in front of them. Not all the time.
Starting point is 00:16:34 But I think people are like, oh, be careful. Make sure there's no light on. Hey, hey, be careful, man. Yeah, if you're like, be careful. You want to sleep? Whoa, whoa, whoa. What are you doing, Eli? Hey, easy there on the blue screen.
Starting point is 00:16:43 What are you doing, Eli? I will say I don't have the phone next to me to fall asleep, but I can watch TV and pass out. I don't know. I've been doing that since I was five. Fucking time immemorial, I think every kid was. So I'm sure putting the screen right in front of your face, but I don't know. A few times I'll- The blue light thing you're talking about where it's like it turns on the serotonin receptors.
Starting point is 00:17:00 I'm sure it does because I do realize too i'm on my computer and her majesty's asleep or something that bright ass blue it's disruptive to someone who's trying to sleep versus like it's different than if you're like you're right i'm just gonna let my brain fucking fizzle out while the tv's on versus like yo dude that blue light is fucking me up and then i got that uh what's that i've got like flux or something you can change the color temp yeah and then boom z's instantly dude that's so i didn't realize that you're absolutely right because i remember i was staying at a hotel and um and my girlfriend at the time turned on the tv or turned on her phone something and that woke me up yeah right and i was like and but if i was looking right at it
Starting point is 00:17:37 aha myth busted boom hell yeah find a new angle that's right yeah discovery channel out my discovery channel yeah exactly yeah uh all right guys let's talk about apple's big moment yesterday the big unveiling of the iphone we got to look at like it's a bunch of new iphones right like a yeah and apple tv announced their full thing i think too oh did that yeah yeah New iPad, fucking everything. New watches. Yeah, the phone has a camera on the back now that just looks like a fidget spinner. Yeah. It literally just looks like a fidget spinner. It really does.
Starting point is 00:18:10 Oh, the three lenses. Damn. Oh, now I really want it. Now you can take a selfie of yourself in slow motion, which is something I've been waiting for. Oh, is the selfie cam now has 60 frames per second? Oh, that's okay. And they're trying to coin a term for it. Slofie.
Starting point is 00:18:29 No, they're not. Absolutely. They are trying to make it a thing. It's very upsetting. Are they really? Yeah, they really are. Slofie? Slofie.
Starting point is 00:18:37 And then like the only thing they could come up with to do with that was they did, they had a guy do the like, yeah like lips thing where like you shake your wobble face yeah wobble throw your cheek meat around he's like ha look how crazy that the old max l commercial coming back coming back yeah getting in that little lounge chair yeah did he have a scarf on um no something's blowing behind him yeah oh yeah you're right it was a scarf his necktie anyway uh the phone can stay one meter underwater for like i think up to 30 minutes or something i feel like that is also what the last phone could do i was having when i was looking at a lot of these announcement things i was like done that already do that already seems slightly
Starting point is 00:19:15 cockier about it than right i think your ability to drop your phone in the toilet. Yeah, the three-camera iPhone 11 Pro Max Super Prison or whatever the fuck that thing is, the super low-light imagery shit actually looked... That was the one thing I saw and was like, oh, that's different. Right, that looks dope, actually. Because you cannot take photos in the dark for shit on an iPhone.
Starting point is 00:19:40 Can we also acknowledge that this is the iPhone X? They never came out with an iPhone 9 9 and it infuriates me. Okay. You know what? I'm sorry. Look, I have a hot take. What was the XR then? The 9R.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Yeah. Or the XS. XS. XS. I don't know. XS was 9S. No, for sure. They definitely did want to skip a few 99 iPhone 10.
Starting point is 00:20:01 But they're normalizing it. They're normalizing numbers not existing anymore. Wow, that is dangerous. Because now there'll be a group of children who don't know about the number nine. People are like, the Joker movie is going to be dangerous. No, the number nine erasure, that's dangerous. People really are talking about the Joker movie a lot, like how dangerous it's going to be, how the timing is weird.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Well, I think it's just because we are in such a tense time right now. Anything that possibly begins to drum up any kind of fear or thoughts around, you know, violent loner crime is, yeah, going to be a little bit unsettling. Should they maybe start doing for the iPhone like what? Hard pivot back to the iPhone. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Sorry. I'm talking about that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. More than that. Sorry. I'm talking about that. like what hard pivot back to the iPhone yeah sorry yeah sorry
Starting point is 00:20:45 talk about that yeah yeah yeah more on that later sorry to talk about that later clown movie directed by the Joker back to the iPhone the thing I like you know how Madden
Starting point is 00:20:53 just started doing a new edition every year that had the year next to it as opposed to Madden 36 like I wonder if the iPhone
Starting point is 00:21:01 should just be like the iPhone iPhone 99 2020 yeah well no see and then that's how they're gonna get you every year see slippery slope Like, I wonder if the iPhone should just be like the iPhone. iPhone 99. 2020. Yeah. Well, no. See, and then that's how they're going to get you every year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:08 See, slippery slope. Right. But shout out to people who are probably going to line up for this. What's the going price on this one? Because I know they're like, we're going to be more cost friendly, which just sounds like they're going to- $699 for the 11. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:20 For the plain old 11. For that. Holy. For that shit. Yeah. Broke boy phone. That doesn't even have the three lenses. It's only got two lenses on the back?
Starting point is 00:21:30 Motherfucker. What am I, on welfare? Might as well just get an iPhone 4S. Right. Yeah, exactly. Might as well get an iPhone X. Yeah, one of the additions is much cheaper, I think. But then there's others that are super cheap.
Starting point is 00:21:45 I think the XR is a little bit cheaper. But I think the one thing that they are doing is you can get, like, a year of Apple TV Plus or whatever if you buy. Oh, included? Something like that, yeah. So it's like the Amazon Prime streaming thing where you get this thing and it's totally unrelated. Yeah, it's like, please.
Starting point is 00:22:04 It's like, look, bro, I wasn't fucking with the U2 album you gave me for free. So, are we really going to do this with the TV? They're never going to live that down. An entire channel of prestige TV is probably more attractive. That would also be the U2, a latter day U2. That would be the best troll
Starting point is 00:22:19 if on the day that the Apple TV premiered, they're just like, here's the U2 album. If on the day that the Apple TV premiered, they're just like, here's the U2 album. And then you just hear it. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba- Sounds like a metaphor. Yeah. Oh, boy. Yeah. Sounds like a very subtle metaphor. Yeah. Everyone is blind, and they fear these two children who can suddenly see. My whole thing is there's like fight scenes. Come on. The sloppiest fight scenes of all time.
Starting point is 00:22:53 The sloppiest knife fights. If everybody is visually impaired, just like, how? How, Sway? People are taking swings at each other the whole time the movie ends when one of them connects with one punch. And it's like their that's and that's who becomes like the ruler right and also like anyway i have a lot of questions i'll i'm sure there's probably more to defend itself but like when i think about the whole premise is like these people who are blind or suspicious of these two newborns who can see how do the ones that cannot see verify these ones
Starting point is 00:23:23 can in fact see when they're babies yeah and i guess you do like weird shit to their face and be like they wouldn't be crying if i wasn't cocking my fist back right the babies are just like you guys look awful and they're like oh my god what the fuck they can see and talk oh no what do i look like yeah the if everybody isn't real ugly in that world, then... Everyone's beautiful. Right. Jason Momoa's like, I got cloudy eyes. Wait, even Jason Momoa's beautiful? Come on. You can't... That guy?
Starting point is 00:23:51 When he grows that hair out, what can you do? Oh, my goodness. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now.
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Starting point is 00:25:55 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her.
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Starting point is 00:26:56 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:27:36 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry caitlin clark versus angel reese on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast and we're back and uh let's listen to this clip from, I think it's CNBC. Is that the financial one? Yep. Yeah, where Jim Cramer, who I hadn't heard speak in like 20 years. Years, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:14 He doesn't seem to be able to put a sentence together anymore. I'm not totally sure why. But he's talking to a couple business guys. It's one of those financial shows where there are 3,000 numbers in the frame on boards in the backgrounds and then racing by below. Let's just hear what they have to say about Elizabeth Warren. I don't know. In the end, I know Elizabeth Warren. Don't listen.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I favor CEOs. You think it's positive to have a CEO? I think, yeah. He's saying CEOs are... Listen, you know, it's... Maybe not. It is... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:28:53 If she becomes president, what do you think is going to happen to the banks? Well, it's not a... It would be a suboptimal situation. Suboptimal? Right. You think Elizabeth Warren pushes banks into it? Well, they're already down 20% from the highs. Yeah, I just think that
Starting point is 00:29:09 there were these hearings in the 30s where they brought rich people in front of Congress. Oh, during the Depression? Trying to trash them. It was effective. About 20 years later, we had the least discrepancy in incomes in the 50s
Starting point is 00:29:26 and 60s. I don't know what's going to happen. Look, I've got to tell you, when you get off the desk and you talk to executives, they're more fearful of her winning. I've never heard anybody say, look, she's got to be stopped. She's got to be stopped. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:29:42 She's very, she keeps going up in the polls. Wow. These motherfuckers sound like the people at Winterfell when the White Walkers are coming. They're like, fuck, the polls. Right. He's also doing a parody of a panicked person. He's like, what?
Starting point is 00:29:59 Like in the middle of it. I mean, either way, Bernie or Elizabeth, they both have Wall Street's number. And I think, yeah, maybe because Warren is cutting through to maybe people they talk to more, they're more afraid because either one of them, it's going to be suboptimal for Wall Street. And they always reference these things that when it was the other time that it was the worst for the working class. Like, well, you know, the 30s. Right. You know what was happening to rich people? But then someone after goes, but then that followed up with like the lowest amount of income inequality.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yeah. It's like, yeah, but you know, but remember the 30s. Don't forget. They had like an existential moment too where they're trying to figure out if CEOs were necessary. Like no one wanted to like handle that thought. They're like, huh, well, I don't. They were talking about a bank that hasn't had a CEO. They've just had an acting ceo for the past like year and they were like i mean ceos are a good
Starting point is 00:30:49 thing right yeah right it's like oh man well i mean yeah when you look at what she's proposing she's sort of like i'm gonna break up the big banks similar to what birdie's talking about and they want to basically separate like a lot of the commercial banking shit that manage like everyday people's money from the parts of the bank that do the high risk investment shit. Yeah. Cause she's going from like the inside out. And that's what really scares the shit out of me.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Cause she's seen everything. And I think like a lot of these people who are savvy about what's actually wrong with our banking system and our financial system, they're like, let, just so you know, this is what's happening. Right. They're like, our deposits are insured by the government. And then they use that to be like, are basically we're gambling money that's insured right and they're saying let's let's knock that shit off and i think also too like a lot of it is basically trying to bring
Starting point is 00:31:32 back the glass steagle act which was repealed in 99 and that's when it became casino time placebo time uh and a lot of people say you know that's the the financial crisis was definitely spurred along by the fact that that act was repealed. Yeah. And I mean, just like we've been saying with Trump and the, you know, since Trump was elected, the stock market's been doing well. Like it might not do great under Elizabeth Warren, but like that is not the economy. economy right exactly well her whole thing is like if we want financial uh independence and freedom for working people and to like just make everything more equitable we have to go right through the one percent's fucking face absolutely and that's why yeah you see these shows where the one percenters are huddled up and like i mean how do we stop the walkers is there a dragon do we
Starting point is 00:32:21 have a dragon yeah no it's curious that they don't mention Bernie whatsoever in this. Like Elizabeth Warren, that's – I think in their mind they may have already dismissed him because if they're thinking like most of these hacks do, it's like, well, he's a socialist. I'm like, no one's going to buy that. Like what she's got is like Occupy Wall Street people. Because Elizabeth Warren isn't outright describing herself as a socialist, but someone about, you know, what is it? The thing like fair capitalism or something like whatever the other code word for still capitalism is. That maybe that's why they see maybe her as more viable. A neoliberal.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Yeah. But it's like, but she likes, what is it? Compassionate capitalism or whatever. Right. Right. Yeah. Because also like what's really also ridiculous about this is that none of them are going to change anyone's minds in that conversation. There's no one watching that. That's like, yeah, should I go with Bernie instead? You know what I
Starting point is 00:33:11 mean? Or like somebody. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, wait, what? She's coming for all of our money because you know, a lot of the, a lot of the stuff, both of them are proposing is about having to do a lot with like CEO pay. And like, you know, when these people come in and like buy companies and, you know, just like loot them legally and then like not honor the pensions that they've actually put forward for like their employees like they're saying no no no no yeah we're putting an end to that if we're elected yeah hopefully neither sanders or warren have any skeletons in their closet because they would have been out. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:45 I don't know. Like maybe they didn't take them seriously and they were just happy. They were taking votes away from each other, but rich people will, you know, the, the corporate interests they've stayed. However,
Starting point is 00:33:58 right. Power this long for a reason, considering where we're at, what the fuck could they have done that? We're looking at the situation. We're looking like, ah, you know what? could they have done that we're looking at the situation we're looking like ah you know what maybe i'm gonna go for a bite in or the mainstream media is very persuasive or at least influential and yeah absolutely yeah i agree i feel like the mainstream media ignoring sanders has hurt his standing in the polls well the bar is so low that like a mod of the centrist democrat
Starting point is 00:34:27 is like a meal ticket for some people they're just looking they're like well you know it's not going to be trump this time why not just a little bit and that's what a lot of polls show uh recently too like there's a i think close to 60 like 58 of democrats and uh like left-leaning independents just want someone that is going to beat Trump. Right. Not someone that they're excited to vote for. Yeah. So just that idea of a second term is, I guess, making a lot of people circling their wagons around, just like, just beat him first.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Yeah. Just beat him. Let's get him out. And then fucking we'll clean up the mess after when most people have perished from student debt or medical debt. mess after when most people have perished from student debt or medical debt. But electability is, you know, we've talked about how in the media, it's a way for, you know, people to sublimate their own biases. Like, well, she's not electable. And it's like, why?
Starting point is 00:35:18 You know, because she's a woman. And it's like, what? Yeah. Or Joe Biden's electable. Why? Well, you know, he just looks presidential. Well, how are you defining presidential? By the size of their veneers.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Right. All it took was a blood vessel to get his numbers down. Right. A bursted blood vessel in his eye. And people were like, you know what? Maybe he's not the best choice. Yeah. Well, look.
Starting point is 00:35:40 Although the media definitely ignored the shit out of that. I know, right? And he was like, it looks like he was auditioning for 28 Days Later. He really did. He's like, I was exposed to some experimental chimps who had been exposed to the rage virus. Wasn't it called rage? It was called the rage virus, yeah. So there are some new polls out.
Starting point is 00:36:01 There's one from The Economist, YouGov, that has Warren and Biden tied at 26. And this is a pretty large and fairly well-trusted poll. Sanders at 16. And then everybody else is basically out of it. Harris and Buttigieg at six. Everyone else, two or less. Yeah. Well, and also favorability. Yeah, that's an interesting one. New poll. Is this a PBS poll? Yeah, it's from PBS NewsHour, NPR, and Marist.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Oh, okay. And basically they were asking about how favorable all the candidates are. The candidate with the highest favorability rating, Elizabeth Warren, 75% favorable, 11% unfavorable, 15% never heard of her. 75% favorable, 11% unfavorable, 15% never heard of her. Biden in second, 71% favorable, 22% so twice as unfavorable, 7% know him. Bernie's at 66. It's interesting.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Biden and Bernie, they're both at 7%, never heard of them. Yeah. Or unsure. But yes, they by far have the lowest in terms of people who they are obscure to. They are most known. Buttigieg actually has the same, like the second lowest unfavorable rating at 11%. Well, same as Elizabeth Warren, but 36% are unsure or never heard of him. So that's probably room his campaign's looking at to try and squeak him over in terms of favorability. But I mean, at this point, there's's gonna have to start being some big moments, big
Starting point is 00:37:27 moans for people in like the single digits to start creeping. Yeah. It seems like it's Warren Biden or Sanders unless somebody else has like a huge moment in the next couple of weeks. That's the thing though. It's like the primaries are still, you know, just a little less than a year away. And it's like amazing in January, what's going to be the, who's the front runner at that point. Yeah, exactly. Um, and also, you know, polls, uh, also haunt the president also. Um, you know, he, I mean, on September 11th, uh,
Starting point is 00:38:00 prior to like going to, you know, a ceremony to commemorate the day. He was busy talking about polls and bullshit. And he's like, in a hypothetical poll done by one of the worst pollsters of them all, the Amazon Washington Post ABC, which I predicted, which predicted I would lose to Crooked Hillary by 15 points. How did that work out? Sleepy Joe, Pocahontas, and virtually all others would beat me in the general election. Okay, so first of all, yes.
Starting point is 00:38:27 Most polls about who you would vote for are hypothetical. Actually, I will wager all of them are. All of them, yeah. But thank you. It's not that the poll itself was hypothetical. I wasn't sure if he was trying to take the bite out of what, like it's not even, they didn't actually even do it. It was like hypothetically if they did, that's what they would say. And I get that's fucking up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:38:43 But the thing that he's pointing at that uh he was basically tied up with elizabeth warren kamala harris and pete and bernie sanders in this same poll in july and now all of them now are beating him by at least four percent yeah and sanders is beating him by nine so he's uh polls polls don't help mr i hate reality doesn't handle them well at all. And like, I love that there's still a Hillary reference thrown in there. Yeah. And also it didn't say they were going to beat him by 15. Oh, they didn't say that?
Starting point is 00:39:14 That was made up. At a certain point, I'm not sure what number he was pointing at, but like there were a few people were like, what is he? What are you talking about? Maybe that was like so early on or something, but I'm not even sure when again it's donald trump our president wait what yep oh no um yeah who do you think it was the whole time yeah i don't know i thought i was hoping it's a different guy now god is this the one that had uh biden beating him by 12 points i believe believe so. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So yeah, he tweeted that on September 11th. And over on Fox News, they were paying their tributes to September 11th by kind of being
Starting point is 00:39:54 nostalgic for it. There were so many weird 9-11 moments on Fox. First, it was Maria Bartiromo's birthday. Right. And she had one of the guys who was running the New York Stock Exchange, I think on 9-11 on as a guest like for everyone to sort of have this like discussion yeah and she was like what would you say on this like it's the end of her show what would you say on this important day well i would say you know pray for the souls that were lost thank a cop thank a fireman and also to you maria happy birthday and she's like oh no no no please don't she was like
Starting point is 00:40:22 mortified you could tell that like, this is not. A fucking producer comes out with a cake that says happy birthday, Marie. She's like, just like, no, it's about 9-11. And she's like, my husband calls it the International Day of Sadness. Great marriage going on. But on Fox and Friends, yeah, Ainsley Earhart. You know, what's it going to take, guys, to bring the country back together? It's sort of what her, and mind you, Karl Rove is the guest.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Yes, of course he is. You didn't maybe many people out there didn't vote for President Bush, but they were supportive of our country. They were supportive. It didn't matter if you were a Republican or a Democrat. It didn't. Politics aside, no one was kneeling when the national anthem was played. How do we get back to that without another 9-11? Well, hard, hard to get back to it.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Our country is so divided. There will be a moment where we will come together, a moment where this bitterness in our politics and the divisiveness will drop away. It doesn't need to have a 9-11, but it does need leadership, and it needs people in Washington who will help bring us together. That will happen. What do we need? What needs to happen?
Starting point is 00:41:24 What does it take to get these black people in check, Karl Rove? Another 9-11? Like, really, that's the gist of it, essentially. She's like, what is going to shut these people up? Right. A 9-11. And also, like. The kneeling.
Starting point is 00:41:37 Yeah. What? The kneeling is the thing that bothers her the most. That was what she led with. Yeah. I mean, sadly, we're already looking at multiple humanitarian crises that are at the hands of this president. And I think it's gathering a certain group of people together on one side. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:52 But, yeah. I mean, I guess in her mind, you know, what's a 9-11 good for? Yeah. A couple parades. way that Trump isn't fantasizing about there being a 9-11 or some sort of attack on the country behind the scenes because of like what it
Starting point is 00:42:10 did to Bush's approval rate. Absolutely. Like somebody needs to get a like get a recording of him doing that because he's doing it. Like I can tell you that for a fact he is somewhere being like I mean if we had another 9-11. What's crazy is there's also just been
Starting point is 00:42:26 an insane amount of mass shootings. Right. But even that is like, well, you know, Las Vegas was also like, you have your opportunities to bring the country together. Right. You actually do if you didn't go so far off the fucking deep end in this fucking ninth circle of hell
Starting point is 00:42:42 or wherever we're at now. But like, yeah, it's funny too because the bar is so low for him to start picking up points right like if he said yo climate change is a fucking it's a fucking problem y'all right people would be like you know what yeah some people might fucking come around and that's why there was a recently a republican came out he's like i'm a conservative republican and climate change is fucking real y'all yeah people were like yes yes see how the fucking bar is for y'all it's our hero what's his name the guy who's
Starting point is 00:43:10 running against Trump now why am I blanking on him Mark Sanford? No the other guy Bill Weld? Joe fucking Walsh thank you yeah he's coming up he's like look man I drank the I was into it and now I'm not and people are like holy shit what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:43:25 And that guy, like, really? That's the option? Mr. Birther, like Obama bin Laden? The most insane guy. And he's like, look, I just don't like Trump anymore. And other conservatives are like, I'm glad finally someone said it. I'm glad someone was opportunistic enough
Starting point is 00:43:36 to actually risk a little bit of their credibility in the party. Yeah. Meanwhile, the weather map scandal is continuing to percolate because it has gone higher where it wasn't just Wilbur Ross. It was Trump's chief of staff, acting chief of staff, Mick Mulvaney, who told Wilbur Ross to tell somebody they'd be fired if they didn't correct a tweet that was already correct but contradicted the president. So, like, I've heard people be like, you know, there's real problems in the world. People are talking about a weather map that Trump drew on with a Sharpie. But I don't think it's insignificant.
Starting point is 00:44:16 No, that's someone who is unwilling to accept reality. It underlines everything that is terrifying about him that even his followers and fans need like have to acknowledge 100% they're like oh just objectively this isn't obsessive behavior right just to get so fixated and then the way his supporters his somehow people still
Starting point is 00:44:38 support him are like well he's just doing what he wants to do and that's the kind of guy we need right you know they're just like yeah you know what he wants to rewrite history give's the kind of guy we need right you know they're just like they're just like yeah you know what he wants to rewrite history give him the give him john 316 let him rewrite it yeah it's just like it's so insane that that's their logic to it john 316 for god love the world so much he's giving you 20 off ivanka's new pantsuit line enter code we're fucked do we think there's like if trump came out and started espousing some like liberal-ish views, like would there be room for him to pick up points? Like that's the theory of the case for – from like Javanka, right?
Starting point is 00:45:13 They're like – Yeah. That was also I think the theory early on I think when he got elected where they're like, well, yeah, he used to have Democratic leanings. So he's probably just – it's like going to be an inside job. I mean Dave Chappelle told me to give him a chance. I'm still waiting to see what's going what's yeah it ain't happening i mean i think when we've seen it though too right we just talked yesterday about how the numbers haven't changed since he got dunked on in the midterms or the party got dunked on too and there's been
Starting point is 00:45:38 no adjustment right so at this point if he did i'm sure there are people who might be duped by that and be like well i don't know he might he might be duped by that and be like, well, I don't know. He might not be all that bad. Right. Even though everything else he's done to this point suggests he is. Yeah. Including canceling of fucking the Republican primaries. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Yeah. He's like, has that ever been done before? I don't know. Yes. People have done that before. Oh, really? Mm-hmm. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Let's talk about canceled people. John Bolton. John. John Bolton. John 316 Bolton. He has decided he wants to make a scene after being you're fired by Trump. Like he was texting people while they were on the air. On the air because he was so incensed that the reports were coming out that Trump had fired him. Yeah. And it was all over on MSNBC.
Starting point is 00:46:26 Andrea Mitchell was saying, quote, he was tweeting his objections. He was texting reporters, including our own reporters at the White House immediately. I was on the air when this all happened. It happened one minute before we started the show. Blah, blah, blah. We went wall to wall. And people were texting in and showing me their text from John Bolton
Starting point is 00:46:40 as we were rocking back and forth. And then he was even, he, you know, he checks all his boxes. He also got to Brian Kilmeade at Fox. And even John, like, as he said on the air, I think John Bolton just texted me just now he's watching.
Starting point is 00:46:55 And he said, let's be clear. I resigned. So. And everyone is basically saying like what he's been saying around to like reporters, just like not just clarifying that he resigned. Is that like, I have a lot to say.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Right. And I'm going to let you know what I really think. You mess with the petty bull, you get the petty horns, man. Exactly. I just don't know, you know, is he scorned enough that he will actually be someone who's going to give a sober critique? And then again, he's coming from a planet I've not even heard of. So I have a feeling the most we can expect from him is like, Trump is bad and he wouldn't let me do wars.
Starting point is 00:47:33 And that's it. I just, I do think that's his main objection is that he wouldn't let him start that war with Iran. Like he- I want to do wars. He wouldn't let me do wars. I want to do wars with Kim Jong-un. He didn't want to let me do wars then. I don't know if this guy want to do wars. He wouldn't let me do wars. I want to do wars with Kim Jong-un. He wouldn't let me do wars then.
Starting point is 00:47:45 I don't know if this guy wants to do wars. But I think also he – I don't know if he's going to like attack Trump as being too dovish or something too or if he's really going to be like this guy is actually a threat to national security from a sober place. I think when Trump's done – when the presidency is over, over fingers crossed real fucking hard on that but like that that's when all the books and stuff that are going to be really not holding back are going to come out yeah which is sad because you have a chance now to alert people to how bad things could be in there and you're just being like i'm just going to give like a real you know middle the road take i mean all the books that are coming out now have just absolutely terrifying statements coming out they're just absolutely terrifying statements coming out.
Starting point is 00:48:25 They're just anonymous right now. Right, right. So we'll just like get attribution that it was all Kellyanne Conway. Right, exactly. The closest I think we got was, was it Bernstein or Woodward? One of them wrote the book. Yeah, that's I think the closest we've got to like an unfettered thing right now. But you almost kind of want like Mattis, who is Secretary of Defense,
Starting point is 00:48:45 to come out and be like, this guy, I'm a fucking general. I'm telling y'all, like I'm out here actually, I've put numbers on the board in the field. This guy is fucking wacky. We need to do something. And he's a threat.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Meanwhile, it's like, you know, I don't want to, I'm not going to say anything against the president. It's like, dude. Yeah, but meanwhile, all they can talk about behind the scenes is like, you guys have no idea how close you are to being fucked and we're saving you from this madman. Also, you think those are people who are like, sort of, it's actually not that bad and they're
Starting point is 00:49:15 just lying because they know people believe it and then they get to feel like a hero at a dinner party? No, I think it's that bad. Yeah. That's how I get away. That's how I sleep at night. But that's like the cowardly way of dealing with it is just like,
Starting point is 00:49:26 you know, doing damage control and stealing papers from his desk. It's fucking Fyre Fest as a administration. Right. No one's telling
Starting point is 00:49:36 Billy McFarland, yo, knock this shit off. Right. Like, well, I mean, some people did.
Starting point is 00:49:41 They got your fired, which is sort of what's happening now. And so the yes people keep working us into oblivion. Oh, okay. I saw how Fyre Fest ended. We should be fine.
Starting point is 00:49:51 Yeah, yeah. I can't wait for Fyre Fest part two. Fyre Fest Earth. Right. All right. We're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist
Starting point is 00:50:08 who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price.
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Starting point is 00:51:44 thrive in the early years of your career. Without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?
Starting point is 00:52:35 And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:53:04 Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on.
Starting point is 00:53:20 From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
Starting point is 00:53:42 This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Let's talk about Hasbro's new Monopoly edition.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Yeah. Because Monopoly socialism was so funny where they like shit on. Laser focused. Sharing things. And now they have decided to take a crack at feminism, it seems like. With Miss Monopoly. Oh, watch out, girl. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:30 With a nice young woman holding a cup of Starbucks, like what can only be presumed to be like Starbucks coffee. Right. With her hand on her hip. And it says, first of all, who is Miss Monopoly? She is Mr. Monopoly's niece and a self-made investment guru here to update a few things. It's about time.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Now, when you look into it, this is obviously just a cynical cash grab for people who are maybe dumb enough to think that this is meant to be an empowering edition of Monopoly. They made her a niece. They call it a celebration of women entrepreneurs
Starting point is 00:55:05 And inventors In it female players start the game with more money than men And also collect more when passing go What? The front cover declares it quote The first game where women make more than men Yas queen I mean look
Starting point is 00:55:19 It's true the pay gap is very real But like what a flippant way to deal with it Right also like isn't Monopoly, the idea behind actual Monopoly is like this is how it is out there, guys. This is supposed to mimic actual capitalism. And to mimic actual capitalism, they're giving women like a leg up like that. It just seems like it's, I don't know. I don't know how that's supposed to feel empowering. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Especially cause like miss Monopoly's from generational wealth, right? Obviously. Well, she's a niece. You don't know how Mr. Monopoly's brother did. He could be a deadbeat.
Starting point is 00:55:53 That's true. I mean, maybe she inherited from, from him. It could be like that kid in succession who was like vomiting in his like animal suit in that first season. And then somehow got swept up in the company, but the way they keep going on is dude a fun a new take on the game that creates a world where women have an advantage
Starting point is 00:56:10 often enjoyed by men okay then it says although the company adds that quote if men play their cards right they can make money too great um players rather than purchasing properties will quote invest in inventions created by women things like Wi-Fi and chocolate chip cookies. Amazing. What? That is incredible. You fucking kid. This was invented by the Has Bro. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:33 My fucking shit. That is. My fucking talks, bro. On the front of the box, it says, Without women, we wouldn't have Wi-Fi or chocolate chip cookies. Way to send just full u-turn i'm like oh dope wi-fi and chocolate chip cookies yeah that's do you want your your head to fully fall off please so they're one of the new tokens you can play with like you know
Starting point is 00:56:59 like race car thing or whatever this one has a watch okay but hasbro's jen boswinkle told usa today this is because it's about time for some changes that's i mean that's i think that conveys that message very clearly says it all they should just be like rather miss monopoly it should be like manless earth right monopoly yeah or all men have died because they're useless now do y'all think first Monopoly should be like manless earth. Right. Monopoly. Yeah. Or. All men have died because they're useless. Now do y'all think. First reformed Monopoly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:30 Yeah. They. I don't even understand. Again, you know, cash grabs, holler. Truly. That is. You're really at a loss for words, Jack. The chocolate chip thing really fucked you up. Chocolate chip cookie.
Starting point is 00:57:41 What? Like that's the thing that they keep coming back to chocolate chip cookies as like yeah women can invent things like they can bake a neat right right it's one of the pieces should be a whisk well don't let crazy yeah don't let people think that women are actually capable of creating things like wi-fi bring it back a little bit let's tamper the wi-fi thing and then chocolate chip cookie totally just obscure. Like the also, also that, by the way,
Starting point is 00:58:09 the CEO of wifi, do you know what I mean? Like, like that invest in, uh, I just hate it so much. It's like so patronizing already that like I've failed us. Hey,
Starting point is 00:58:20 look, Hasbro y'all fucking stop. It is not. Yeah. Wait till the black lives matter, fucking stop. It is not. Yeah. Wait till the Black Lives Matter monopoly comes out. Oh, my God. Yeah. White people get less money than black people.
Starting point is 00:58:32 And when they go to jail, uh-oh. Yeah. I guarantee you that has been at some point pitched. Oh, you know it has. There's no way. If this shit got out. That's what I, yeah. Imagine what the discard pile is of ideas in those fucking meetings.
Starting point is 00:58:51 Oh, my God. shit got out that's what i yeah imagine what the discard pile is of ideas in those fucking meetings seriously oh my god i can't actually it almost pains me to think of what things i mean again every day with the kind of shit that's set out in these boardrooms or even advertising agencies but like if we got miss monopoly and they made socialism monopoly that were such fucking bizarre off bad takes on things what what didn't make it through the filter? And who did they test these two? Did they bring people in that they're like, how would you feel about a Miss Monopoly or a Mrs. Monopoly? Right.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I'm surprised. And in this one, you can play with a new token, the biological clock, because it's ticking. Right. And you have to turn on an actual ticking clock while you're going around the board. And then it's like, uh-oh, you got too successful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Calm down. That's it. We're shutting the timer off. She can't be self-made, though. She has to be related to Mr. Monopoly. Yeah. I guess what, in the expanded universe of Monopoly, this unbelievable tiny guy, we needed to think that he had a niece.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Yeah. And did they make it a niece so it didn't seem like too much like there wasn't that much nepotism involved or maybe just so that they had the same last name monopoly you know right because they didn't want to make it like his younger wife is her name i wonder what her first if it's like jane monopoly you know what i mean or like some comment i mean i don't know as far as what's on the box, all you know is she is Mr. Monopoly's niece. Yep. First up.
Starting point is 01:00:07 Somebody needs to do the Black Lives Matter Monopoly like sketch. Yeah, exactly right. I mean, I'm sure SNL at this point, look, I know the entire SNL writers room is listening. Yeah. Shout out to you guys. Please do this.
Starting point is 01:00:21 Yes. Guys, the vape wave may be crashing. R.I.P. Trump has it in his crosshairs, and it's only a matter of time. Yeah, he was saying what? He's going to recommend very aggressive guidelines? Yeah, basically they are going to try and outlaw any vape flavors that aren't tobacco flavored. Between this and paper straws, we're going to be fine, guys.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yeah. Like, we're good. Right. We're good. Saved. It's odd. I wonder if this was the, again, for him, he needs a victory. This seemed to be the lowest hanging fruit where he could regulate something that people
Starting point is 01:00:58 were concerned about and not rock a boat too hard. There have been five deaths and hundreds of illnesses caused by like acute pulmonary injuries from vaping like vaping related injuries but how does that compare to tobacco smoke right like how like how many thousands of people have died in that time from smoking tobacco but that made by the same companies is still legal or guns like other people were pointing out on twitter literally a million environmental laws uh well you know i mean the flavors i i get i get it for their you know we've met concerned parents very recently yes they their kids vape and they're like god damn man we can be dueling for at like 13 14 or
Starting point is 01:01:43 whatever yeah i don't get like why you get why you want to knock that shit off. Sure. I have no problem with them making it taste worse. I mean, to get a nicotine buzz when I was a kid, you had to put something awful tasting in your mouth, and there's no reason these kids shouldn't have to do the same. What'd you chew, man? What'd you chew?
Starting point is 01:02:01 No, just tobacco. Like, cigarette smoke was fucking tastes terrible oh i thought you mean i thought it tasted like yeah i thought it was like you have skull i thought it was gonna taste like it smelled you know tobacco smoke and let's talk about that caroline calloway essay uh caroline calloway the real mrs monopoly the real mrs monopoly self-made yeah so there's a viral piece of content that's going around that's basically a long read about, I don't know. I'm just happy that there's a viral piece of,
Starting point is 01:02:33 like a thing that a lot of people are reading that's like a really great piece of writing. This person's like a really good writer. Yeah, and it's just sort of chronicling. You know, it brought people in because it's about this woman, Caroline Calloway, who, you know, is an influencer. Yeah, and it's just sort of chronicling. It brought people in because it's about this woman, Caroline Calloway, who is an influencer. Yeah, on Instagram. Yeah, exactly, and lives her impossible life, gallivanting around the world.
Starting point is 01:02:53 And going to Cambridge as an American was kind of like her first hook point or whatever. And then through this piece, you find out just sort of how this other woman was essentially the brains behind a lot of the writing. Yeah, right. Including her book deal and things like that and how their relationship was you know completely fucked up and manipulative but again it's one of those things that you read like where you feel bad because when this woman's talking about all the shit she went through like damn that sucks and you're working some desk job and then as i read i'm like dude i hope you get a fucking book deal or some kind of opportunity because it really did read like this piece of like millennial uh literature fanfic or
Starting point is 01:03:26 not fan fiction but like just a tale that was had drama and all these things i don't know very well i think it yeah i think it's a good read but i also think it's like it's interesting what's being eye-opening for people where they're like well nothing's what it seems in the influencer world and it's like yeah oh you mean a new reality reality TV? That is not a surprise at all. It's crazy that people look at anyone who's big from social media as not being another extension of Hollywood, just not in Hollywood. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:53 Right. It's just myth-making. And there's a theory, by the way, I don't know if you guys know this floating around that, that the article is part of the narrative that both of them are doing together. I don't buy it, but that's- Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:04:07 To just drum up more interest in like their project or whatever that book they're working on. Yeah, or anything. Yeah, something where it's like, because she didn't shut off her comments on her when she posted it, but when Caroline Calloway was posting about it, like she didn't do what most people do
Starting point is 01:04:20 when these things come out, which is they like step away. She's like still in the middle of waiting in a lake of shit and being like, yeah is what i had think about it and like if anyone sound off in the comments this seems to be like the main thing that even she even mentions in the article that she everything is part of her narrative and she can't stop sharing like whatever she's going through at that moment. Right. And she's trying to get,
Starting point is 01:04:46 it was like, she was trying to get ahead of it in a really like, I don't know. She like in a way that she was like, I have nothing to hide and maybe that'll help me defend myself when this damning news comes out. Right. And it's sort of like, it's going to be a great piece.
Starting point is 01:04:59 All of her tweets and shit or like IG stories before, like it's going to be like genius writing. I already know. Yeah. That's what, that's what bugged me about it is that no that her the way she's like talking about it is she's like just make sure to check out the article yeah that's great because it's good for her it's good publicity i didn't know who caroline calloway was prior to this yeah i mean
Starting point is 01:05:18 it's it's interesting like i was i was not surprised by how much of her posts was written by this writer. The only things that surprised me were that she was able to build up this persona and this influence, like this following of people by starting out by buying followers. That was before it got more regulated, right? Yeah, that DC stuff. Yeah. But I mean, she started completely synthetically. Right. And then eventually,
Starting point is 01:05:50 and it was like after a meeting with literary agents where they were like, we're not going to buy a book from you. You don't have any like- Followers. Followers or anything. She's like, oh, okay. And then went and like bought a bunch of followers.
Starting point is 01:06:00 It was just like very cynical and straightforward. Yeah, it really speaks to the industry and everything surrounding this person. Yeah. Yeah, right. As what people should be paying attention to. Because the impetus was her obstacle to achieving what she wanted to as a writer was that they said, you're not famous enough. Yeah. So that completely changed her priorities.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Yeah. She had to then focus on building a persona rather than honing in her her craft which you know romantics would be like focus on your art right and fuck what they say but it's a it's like any really good piece of writing like the care the main character of the piece like the caroline calloway uh person who's like the subject of the piece like you you don't just feel one way about her it's like yeah she's conflict you have like complicated feelings about her and like what she's doing and you know she seems to be somebody who has who's struggling with different uh you know issues and uh yeah i mean the addiction part of it she doesn't really touch on sobriety right at any point like even
Starting point is 01:07:04 when she right wrote that thing about like this was during my toughest time when i was addicted to pills and right but she's not at any point indicating that she's out of recovery right yeah she's just like and i know with some of that there's like anonymity is the point and you don't want to show that it's a failure but she still isn't doesn't say like i'm currently sober unless i missed it but she's really not pushing that part yeah Yeah. They didn't talk about it in the piece. I did get the sense that maybe that was like, she got the book deal while she was using Adderall and then had to write it
Starting point is 01:07:35 after she was able to use it because of addiction. And maybe that's where things fell apart. Yeah. Really. I mean, I can't tell people enough to read this. Yeah. It reads like some shit you would think when we're in our 50s kids would read. It's like, I read that book at school about weird influencer liar people.
Starting point is 01:07:55 And I think this might be the first thing that Lifetime will take an influencer story and make it the Caroline Calloway story. Can you imagine? Unauthorized. It's going to be so cringy to see some of the shit she said was like, we went out in like Italy and she got like 900 outfits she had to bring
Starting point is 01:08:10 because she had to cram in like a week's worth of images and different outfits into one day of shooting. Yeah. And just like how cringy, like, oh God.
Starting point is 01:08:17 I thought the part where she like tore up the carpet. That was dark. Yeah. I mean, that's amphetamine addiction. That's like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:08:24 when things are real dark and like you're just completely obsessive tissue boxes on your feet yeah listening to her be like pulling splinters out of her feet i was like oh my god that is yeah that's a real powerful shot of the movie also too like the woman natalie who was her ghostwriter she was very i saw a lot of things that i had experienced too where you're kind of intoxicated by someone's fame or the proximity to them. And will like sort of overlook many things because in a way your ego gets wrapped up in your association with a person. And you completely put your own well-being out the window. For some reason.
Starting point is 01:09:00 Yeah. No, and then eventually like it sort of plays out to this just really shitty end. That's why when people are like, oh, be careful of toxic relationships. Also, that extends to friendships. Oh, 100%. Even more so because I think that'll inform how you approach relationships. Yeah. It had Gatsby vibes to me.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Obviously, I don't want to compare any piece of writing. But even the fact, like, she described a lawn really well one time. And that was like something I noticed in Gatsby. It's like Gatsby said, smash that like. Hashtag adventure. But I mean, there's like there's a moment right now where, you know, we're starting to see really great writers like who write about the present moment. Like I'm reading Gia Tolentino's book, Trick Mirror, really cool and about like living in a world where everybody's on social media and like having grown up in that world. I'm on the waiting list for that at the library. It's oh really? Yeah it's great. You can't get the e-book yet? Even the
Starting point is 01:09:57 e-book I think they only have like so I don't know how that works but they only have so many copies of like the e-books. Oh so people don't go hog wild with the e-books? Right, exactly. Well, guys, KFC is... Ready to fuck. Yeah, they are. KFC is DTF. They are hashtag horny. Yeah. By the way...
Starting point is 01:10:16 That's it, all right. Yeah, that's what we just wanted to say. KFC was horny. I don't know if you know this, but a few months ago, the kernel on commercials was RoboCop. Like the actor who played RoboCop? Or on commercials was robocop like the actor who played robocop or it was robocop with the goatee exactly look look up the picture it is incredible
Starting point is 01:10:30 was that a tv ad yeah they would like the parents were sitting there eating and then suddenly fucking robocop as the colonel just burst oh damn so i mean their whole marketing thing right now is like wtf throw shit at the wall and see what sticks but one of the things they're doing right now is a dating game a dating simulator game where you were trying to fuck Colonel Sanders he's like a
Starting point is 01:10:55 handsome animated dude who's young but still has gray hair and a gray goatee very Japanese dating sim aesthetic you know he's animated the fuck out with an impossible jawline yeah uh so and the premise is very odd and creepy yeah well it's like you are a promising culinary student and. And one of your fellow students is the colonel. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:27 And then you guys have chemistry of some sort. Does he go by the colonel? I think so, yeah. Incredible. Colonel Sanders. I mean, it's called I Love You Colonel Sanders. Yeah, that's true. And it's also very Japanese in that one of the professors is a dog.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Yeah. Very anime. Let's just live in a world where you want to fuck Colonel Sanders, okay? Don't worry if the professor's a dog. Yeah. Very anime. You know, like, let's just, look, let's live in a world where you want to fuck Colonel Sanders, okay? Don't worry if the professor's a dog. Who gives a shit? Yeah, that's the least of your problem. Have you seen his, look at that hair. So, one really strange thing I learned in this story that was written by our writer, J.M. McNabb,
Starting point is 01:12:00 is that Mother's Day is KFC's best-selling day of the year. is that Mother's Day is KFC's best-selling day of the year, and they have been doing weird romance novel, like romance things with Colonel Sanders every Mother's Day. Like they had a stripper video where Colonel Sanders was like a hot dude who stripped for you. They wrote a full-length romance novel about Colonel Sanders just having a bunch of sex with a fictional heroine. Uh,
Starting point is 01:12:28 this is a quote from one of those. Sometimes it seemed as though the two of them had been made to love each other. And they tried to do so at every given opportunity. I, none of that has, none of that has any like plugs to KFC, but yeah,
Starting point is 01:12:43 exactly. If thus begins chapter nine of tender wings of desire oh there we go there we go that's what i was looking for so strange to me that mother's day is kfc's that blows my mind it makes me upset that that many lame ass partners are like all right let's get kfc then let's take take takes isFC then. Is it that many moms because they have been slowly being incepted by the KFC marketing people that they have a deep desire to have sex with KFC? Yeah, who's making the requests here? Did suddenly like kids and husbands or they suddenly like your partners,
Starting point is 01:13:18 they were like, you know what? You need a break. Let's take you to KFC. Or was she like, I need a break. Let's get to KFC. Go around the table really quick. In your mind, what do you think is the best? What's get to KFC go around the table really quick in your mind what do you think
Starting point is 01:13:25 is the best what restaurant's best day of the year is Mother's Day in your mind if I was about to read that stat to you because KFC's
Starting point is 01:13:33 at the bottom no it's not KFC it would be like Olive Garden we're gonna go with Casual Cheesecake Factory you know fucking Marie Callender
Starting point is 01:13:38 I didn't know how fancy we were getting but Cheesecake was my just in general because it has to be national baby yeah yeah any of those
Starting point is 01:13:44 yeah Olive Garden Cheesecake Carrabba i keep going to italian let me try but any of those macaroni grill macaroni grill chilies ever heard of it no like anything literally anything else where you can sit down and talk and like yeah and have food brought to you rather than just going to a counter yeah i. Look, Zygang, if you understand why, if you're a mother who requests KFC on Mother's Day, let me know what's up. Is it because you're horny for KFC? I mean, it might not actually be food for the mother. It might be food for the kids while the dad takes the mom out to eat. So every lazy ass.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Right. They bring them to the daycare center known as KFC and then they go to Cheesecake Factory. Right. Oh, boy. Yeah. Not all of their attempts at marketing have worked out so well. So they did something super cynical, which was they Kickstarter or Indiegogoed a couple ideas. Like they wanted to design a Kentucky fried hot tub.
Starting point is 01:14:46 Great. It was a hot tub that looked like a bucket of chicken. Colonel on Ice, ice skating show. And they asked for users to raise the funds for them. What? They did like, oh my God, that is amazing. They're like, well, we have all this money, but we'd rather you guys. And they got to $665 of funding for the hot tub, even though they were trying to get to like hundreds of thousands.
Starting point is 01:15:14 So they got basically like 1% of both of them. But hey, but it raises awareness. But that's their whole plan. That's capitalism at its truly most. Well, yeah. I mean, it was never like they were going to actually hit that number. But it's crazy that that their whole plan. That's capitalism at its truly most. Well, yeah. I mean, it was never like they were going to actually hit that number. But it's crazy that that was a bit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:30 Well, their whole thing is like they're like, dude, stupidity is our strength. Quite literally is what their advertising marketing director said. Yeah. That's incredible. That is truly. And that's where we're heading. That's a model that is going to be taught in classes in 30 years. We're going to be like,
Starting point is 01:15:45 you just remember KFC was the rogue one. Yeah, he didn't just say that like off the cuff. He gave a presentation at the Cannes Lions Festival, which is like a film festival for advertising. And he was dressed
Starting point is 01:15:57 as Colonel Sanders and had a PowerPoint where the main thing said stupidity is our strength. So I'm picturing the meeting just being like, all right, guys, get dumb with it. What do you got first?
Starting point is 01:16:07 RoboCop. Too dumb. Not dumb enough. Not dumb enough. Can fucky fried chicken. Too smart. Okay. Really dumb it down, guys.
Starting point is 01:16:15 I will say RoboCop being in that ad did make me yearn for in the early 90s when all the R-rated movies had like toy lines and shit. Awesome. That was the best. I think the RoboCop one had like toy lines and shit. Awesome. That was the best. I think the RoboCop one had like a popper thing you could snap on the back of this thing to make it look like a cover shooting. Ammonitrate? No, you know
Starting point is 01:16:31 like, no, not poppers any. Not that fun kind. Like, okay, you know like a cap gun? Yeah. But sometimes it would come in paper strips and you could like beat the shit out of them. You would feed that into the back of the Rob robocop toy and you could snap it on the back while you held the anyway yeah and the terminator's chest would explode and fire out
Starting point is 01:16:52 something yeah it's all great and we never got to see the movie i didn't know he shot a guy's dick off you didn't i didn't see oh i had the time yeah yeah at the time i was like i have the toy i saw that movie way too young did you you? Same. Was so into it. Same. Rewind that part. Yep. The part where the dude gets liquefied really blew my mind. Same.
Starting point is 01:17:12 Same. I remember that very fondly. My question is- The dad from that 70s show. Is the stupidity as strength tactic due to the fact that a lot of the people they're marketing to who are around our age who are completely cynical when it comes to traditional madmen type advertising thinking or strategy, right? That they're like,
Starting point is 01:17:31 they only fuck with memes and dumb shit, right? Like that's the only way you're going to get them to talk because the slick shit that no one gives a fuck about. Totally. Yeah. If it, if it's sending a message and you can kind of understand why that message is being sent. Like kids are like somewhat allergic to it, I feel like is the general like idea.
Starting point is 01:17:52 Right. Yeah. So you just have to, it has to be nonsense. I think like if you go around, like if I was like a hustler doing like brand awareness shit as a consultant, I'm like, look, here's the thing guys. Look, Avia sneakers. Here's the deal, man. You got to make your brand.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Like if your brand was a person, these kids want to fucking thing, guys. Look, Avia sneakers. Here's the deal, man. You got to make your brand. Like, if your brand was a person, these kids want to fucking jewel and smoke weed with this brand. Right. Okay? So look what I did with KFC, man. Fucking dumb as fuck. But look, they love it. Because why?
Starting point is 01:18:16 Like, the colonel's hot. He's fucking weird. You know what I mean? Setting a great precedent. Gen Z fuckers are eating the shit up. I love it, dude. Fucking love it, man. Well, shit. Eli, it, man. Well, shit. Eli, it's been a pleasure having you.
Starting point is 01:18:26 Thank you guys so much for having me back. Thank you so much for having me back. There it is. No, you know what? After that performance, where can people find you and is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yeah, there's a tweet I enjoyed
Starting point is 01:18:39 from at Mighty Monica, Monica with a K, which was, LOL, everyone's arguing online very seriously about that Lana Del Rey album like it doesn't have a Sublime cover on it. It does have a Sublime cover. It does.
Starting point is 01:18:51 And quite a choice of Sublime song to cover. But I loved it. And people can find me at Eli Oldsberg on all the socials. And check out Closure, the podcast that never ends, on iTunes. Oh, shit. Daniel Johnston passed away from the devil and Daniel Johnston. That literally was just now
Starting point is 01:19:07 the 9-11 thing that happened where the birthday cake came out. I was like, follow me at Eli Oldsberg and you're like, RIP Daniel Johnston.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Yeah, exactly. Sorry to bring out a birthday cake during your 9-11. No, all good. RIP Daniel Johnston. Follow me on all the socials. Miles,
Starting point is 01:19:23 where can people find you? Oh man, I'm sorry about that. You really took the wind out of your sails. But RIP Daniel Johnston. Follow me on all the socials. Miles, where can people find you? Oh, man. I'm sorry about that. You really took the wind out of your sails. Where do we go from here? Social media. At Twitter and Instagram. At Miles of Gray.
Starting point is 01:19:38 And a tweet, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. A tweet I like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, a tweet from Reductress. Report. Y'all, y'all, y'all. Y'all, y'all. A tweet from Reductress. Report. Everyone knows you're high. And I just needed that.
Starting point is 01:19:50 Also, another one. Report. Couple looks related. I can never get over it. Whenever people talk about couples looking related, I think of three very distinct couples in my mind. I can't say them out loud. I do think one of them does listen to the show, and now I've given up the ghost.
Starting point is 01:20:02 But guess what? Y'all look the same. Get ready to explain yourself. Y'all look like brother and sister. They're not. I dated a girl who kind of looked like me once. Like the lady version of you? No, not like the exact lady version, but when someone was like, you guys
Starting point is 01:20:16 kind of look alike. I was like, yeah, I guess kind of. Anyways. Anyway, that said, RIP Daniel Johnson. Exactly. Some tweets I've been enjoying Eli Uden tweeted if assault rifles use freaking
Starting point is 01:20:31 jewel pods then maybe Republicans would ban nicotine bullets for children kind of lost the thread here but please RT and just a fun anecdote from Peyton, at Peyton. My roommate broke up with his girlfriend last night at a fancy restaurant, and she started bawling.
Starting point is 01:20:52 Everyone thought he proposed to her and started clapping. Oh, no. And then Alfred the Great tweeted, Breaking John Bolton has signed with the Patriots. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,
Starting point is 01:21:14 where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we write out on Miles West's second relay. Oh, man. This is a band i've just started listening to and i'm digging it i'm liking the vibrations nickelback yes exactly this is an oldie but a goodie no this is from mild life uh they're a band from melbourne australia and they dude they're very tight band okay they're groo. The rhythm section is in the fucking pocket.
Starting point is 01:21:46 They just have like, you know, psych disco groove shit going on. It's very dope. This track is epic. It's like eight minutes long. So please do yourself a favor and listen to the track all the way through. It starts off with a little bit of arpeggiated synth. And you're like, man, this is some arpeggiated synth. What the fuck is this?
Starting point is 01:22:01 Then the beat comes in. You're like, oh, what the fuck? What's my shoulder doing? Oh, it's bobbing up and down. What the fuck? My toe. It's like, what the fuck is this? Then the beat comes in. You're like, oh, what the fuck? What's my shoulder doing? Oh, it's bobbing up and down. What the fuck? My toe. It's tapping. There's just slick.
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