The Daily Zeitgeist - Super InTrendant Chalmers 5/14: Meme Stocks, Tacos = Mexican Sandwich, Tom Brady, Spiderman Noir, Francis Ford Coppola

Episode Date: May 14, 2024

In this edition of Super InTrendant Chalmers, Jack and Miles discuss the return of meme stocks, tacos being deemed "Mexican style sandwiches", TikTok's new "Pickle Dr. Pepper" hack, Tom Brady NOT liking getting roasted, the new Nick Cage Spiderman show, the new Francis Ford Coppola film "Megalopolis" and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of super intrendant chalmers that one courtesy of the new chris and hammer anik hammer hammer hammer hammer anik you on the discord hammerama as that's my nickname And Hammerama. Hammerama. Hammerama. That's my nickname for them. Shout out to y'all. My name is Jack. That is Miles. These are some things that are trending.

Yes, y'all. Memestocks are back. Baby. The Dude. Roaring Kitty. A.K.A. Keith Gill. A.Kill aka paul danno mixed with luke wilson i believe we settled on yeah yeah um but i guess paul danno played him in the film dumb money dumb money a milli a milli oh shit i didn't watch it was it good did you watch it i did not watch it

uh that's what was seth ro. Seth Rogen. Seth Rogen. No, I didn't see. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see Seth Rogen? There's just so much content around the meme stock shit. Like I saw the documentary and I was like,

all right, I get it. I get it. That's. I didn't watch any of it because I'm always like really averse to any stock market shit. And then I watch it and I'm like, all right, that's enjoyable.

But I've still maintained my distance but this fellow Super Producer Victor watched it and said it was similar to Blackberry except without the cynicism about big business

it kind of had the idea of just like they're really doing it they're pulling it off. It's a heist. Um, and not like this whole thing is fucked, but right. Right.

Anyways, roaring kitty, one of the stars, one of the main propagators of the original like meme stock boom of 2021, I guess that was. Um, of 2021 i guess that was um so he just tweeted a single image of a person sitting back gaming in their chair and then moving forward and gaming in their chair very simple drawing but people get it man that just means wait hold on no i'm getting serious is playing a video game

leaning forward i think we all know what that means. Exactly. It's to the moon. What does it mean? Oh, yeah, to the moon, Alice. To the moon. With one of, same stock? Were you doing the same stock?

I don't need. Not even sure. I don't need detailed financial advice from a financial advisor. I need vague images on Twitter that I can interpret like they're you know horoscopes right right or hieroglyphics that are presaging some kind of event yes and somehow amc and game stock game stop stock slonks went up game stonk, he followed that first post up with an even more confusing posts, uh, containing gifts from movies such as Val Kilmer and tombstone saying it's not

revenge he's after. And then Blackberry stock got a bump from his post. So it's just people trying to read the tea leaves, trying to roll the bones. So I love about the market, dude, you know, it makes sense is who who was was he doc holiday what was who was his character in unforgiven holiday yeah that we just show that and that make that made a line go up because everything makes so much sense yeah cool cool cool cool the whole thing feels like it should

be interpreted as like a satire of capitalism but even the movie made about it sounds like it was just like and here's how you win and capitalism um yeah i mean because the documentary is interesting because you saw like what the tension was between you know casual consumer traders you know like and then the sort of bona fide you know wall street firms that were just shitting themselves and they're like what the fuck are they doing yeah um but yeah that that was they're making the market behave irrationally yes for the first time in its long history this is why we got to keep them out do something robin hood yesos are Mexican-style sandwiches, according to the whitest people in America, and now it's been made official.

A judge in Indiana ruled that they're just Mexican sandwiches. What do you got there? Mexican sandwich? Mexican sandwiches. Yes. Previously, the commission denied a famous taco from being located in the strip mall partially based on a written commitment that had been accepted with a nearby neighborhood association limiting any restaurant there to one that did not offer alcohol did not allow outdoor seating and only sold made to order or subway style sandwiches so it sounds like they made an agreement that you could only order a subway you could only install a subway there and they

were like oh we're gonna do a taco thing so the court agrees that tacos and burritos are mexican style sandwiches and they can put their mexican style sandwich shop in there. I like this story better when it was affirming their right to be there rather than being like, hold on a second, no Mexican-style sandwiches here. Is it affirming or is it disallowing? I can't tell from the story. At the very least, it's basically saying that they are able to... I don't even know so it says

the original written commitment would also permit a restaurant that serves made order Greek heroes Indian non-reps or Vietnamese banh mi if these restaurants complied with the other enumerated conditions so it's basically saying like yeah

you can still you can still have it there yeah right right right exactly they're like there's it's not a sandwich i believe it is uh but yes as brian the editor says yeah there is something called a torta that uh might do that also but again this is always like that's always funny how like like on online debate of like what is a sandwich or not a sandwich i don't like it personally it's not my, it's always funny how like, like on online debate of like, what is a sandwich or not a sandwich? I don't like it personally. It's not my content. It's not for me.

Well, no, I think it's kind of a waste of time to be, to really get in the weeds about being like, well, is it a sandwich? It's like, well, that's not even like a universal form of food. It's a very specific personality type that has a strong opinion on whether a hot dog is a sandwich or not. Holds to it.

No! Meanwhile, I have a strong opinion on which direction the toilet paper should be set up. Look, we pick our battles, man. We pick our battles. I'm not better or worse than anyone. I like it over. It feels weird.

It feels like it can get out of control when it's under. That's my sort of weird neurotic idea of what can go wrong if the toilet paper is on the underside. It also feels like you're taking your germy hands mid-poop

and putting them close to the wall. Interesting. Superduser Brian is saying if you have germy hands mid-poop and putting them close to the wall. Oh. Yeah. Interesting. Superduser Brian is saying if you have cats, it's underhand all the way. I get that. My cats don't care about the toilet paper roll,

luckily, so they're not the ones bringing it down. I get that, Brian, but maybe if your cats were more well-trained like mine are, no. I don't know. I'm sure there's great reasons. There's only one way. Maybe if your cats were more well-trained like mine are. No. Yeah. I don't know. I'm sure there's great reasons.

There's only one way. Okay. I'm sure there's great reasons. They just happen to be wrong. And your wall is basically smeared in invisible poop germs. Okay, good. Yeah. I don't know, man.

Hopefully you put the lid down when you flush it, too, if you're really... I don't even put the lid down when I'm going to the... I don't even put the lid down when I'm going to the bat or I don't even put the lid up when I'm going to the bathroom miles. I'm sorry. How do you use it? You know, you sit on the lid and just let it smush out like a shitty Play-Doh toy. And then you go about your day and then you're there.

You're there already. So you can spend the next 45 minutes cleaning up. And that's why I spend an hour and a half in the bathroom. If must know yeah and it's not any other reasons all right tiktok wants us to give a shit about pickle dr pepper uh it's a hack at sonic you can just order uh dr pepper with pickles in it at sonic burger um i love pickles in almost everything yeah this doesn't sound good to me but it doesn't sound too bad to me it doesn't seem like okay so for people who are wondering like what the fuck's going on it just looks like someone put like a handful of sliced pickles on a like a 32 ounce cup of dr pepper is that enough to change the flavor

according to people who have tried it it is not right and then what do you just eat the soaked pickles like when you eat afterwards the fruit in a sangria or something like and it gets boozy like this time you're like it's dr peppery these pickles uh brian the editor has chimed in with another really good point uh he's saying peter piper picked a pickle dr pepper ah. But Run Rock rhymes. There you go. Why don't you think about that, maybe, before you spread your memes, you young people. Spread your memes and fly.

Spread your memes and fly all the way to another Trump presidency, you young fucks. This is the dumb, the shitty, stupid part about TikTok when I'm like, maybe it is influencing people in the wrong way breathlessly they're like maybe three pickle slices on a fucking dr pepper and it's a new hack

or people like are the shit with like the perfect iced pre-chilled optimally chilled doctor or diet coke and that kind of weird pseudo-scientific stuff like it's just even like because i like to cook and i'm just thinking i'm like bro that's not enough to impart any flavor on here like yeah and maybe my palate is just not sensitive enough to to sense the pickle slices but no this is your doctor pepper has to be chilled for four days in a 33 degree pre-marinated drink refrigerator it's marinated marinate it needs to be marinating in a refrigerator for at least six weeks yeah um dry aged perfect crispiness and then they like dump a bunch of crystal light in there it's like what the fuck are you guys doing rock ice yeah and mio are you a

pickle are you a pickleman yeah i love pickles come on man i'm all about frickles baby fricking i think i missed the frickies one i started oh my only knowledge of the frickles is uh like on in the aka discord uh oh when people started popping up yeah yeah yeah no i'm all about the frickies man i love i love a pickle i love a half sour pickle have you had a half sour i don't know i don't think i have there's a but tompt is the name of like the brand they have them around la and uh they have ones that are basically like not all the way pickled they're only like halfway there so they're a little bit half puke exactly wow rancho cucamonga there we go let's take a quick break on that one uh and we will be right back to talk about tom Brady and Francis Ford Coppola.

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do a roast a comedic one it's basically you're going to be insulted in ways your little brain could not have even fathomed for like two hours straight um but yeah he was on some podcast recently and like they're like oh man what'd you think about the roast and he said quote i didn't like the way they affected my kids he said of some of the quips like it made their faces spread into a smile and start going ha ha ha pointing at me he goes on to quote it's the hardest part about like the bittersweet aspect of when you do something that you think is one way and then all of a sudden you realize i wouldn't do that again because of the way it affected actually the people that i care about the most in the world i'm not sure what that sentence means no it's the hardest part about

like the bittersweet aspect of when you do something that is that bittersweet no keep going that this all this all tracks so far i'm fucked up off the fucking dr pepper pickles i'm like okay the bittersweet aspect of when you do something that you think is one way, then all of a sudden you realize I wouldn't do that again because of the way that it affected actually the people that I care about the most in the world. Okay. It's just like, he doesn't yet realize that it hurt his feelings.

And so he wants to filter it through. Like, I'm just protecting my kids I'm a man uh like you know masculinity and so he's using all these words to like meander around the reality

that it has actually hurt his feelings yeah poor guy go cry in your cryo chamber yeah his kids are probably fine like as long as they watched it and like everybody was laughing and he was laughing too i'm sure they they were probably fine with it until afterwards he was like why were you guys laughing or i would be like dude please don't watch it they're gonna fucking say things about your mom and i that you oh yeah i still haven't watched it i guess there's one line where glazer

nikki glazer's like i mean this is me paraphrasing which is like oh yeah this is probably the second best idea you had agreeing to this after yeah honey you should try jujitsu um and then and then going on she's like that must be tough to like be angry at a guy that you know could beat your ass while he's eating your wife's and everyone was like oh if your kids saw that they're like wait mommy you're with him I thought Gary was just a friend he's eating your ass

damn mom I thought Gary was just a friend. He's eating your ass? No. Damn, mom. Wait, mom. He's eating your ass. What a terrible realization to have. But yeah, I get it. We all know that bittersweet aspect of when you do something that you think is one way and then all of a sudden you realize I wouldn't do that again

because of the way it all affected actually the people that I care about the most in the world. We've all been there. Truer words. Truer words have never been true. Tom Brady. Noir. There's another thing that's trending.

Noir. Oh, I thought it was people saying Noir. Noir. Australia. Noir. Noir. Mike Dyer Prime. Apparently, Noir.

So if you remember the Into the Spider-verse animated spider-man film nicholas cage was voicing spider-man noir uh and you know everyone was like oh my god it's nick cage like this is so cool anyway apparently they are doing a live action show starring nicholas cage uh it had been like talked about like last year or whatever but now it is officially announced by amazon and it's again because this is like they're like why isn't it disney it's because it's that weird thing where like spider-man noir is like on the sony side of the marvel deal right so they get to do whatever the fuck they want with it um i don't know if this is going to be there with like mad web and shit right right right i don't know if this is going to be good or bad. Like, web and shit. Right, right, right. I don't know if this is going to be good or bad, but I know how badly Nicolas Cage wants to be a superhero.

Like, he tried so hard to be Superman and it never fucking came to fruition. Now he's going to get to be Spider-Man. Does he just overact like we've never seen him before? Is it just going to be super mid? I don't know. I just don't be super mid i don't know i just don't know i just don't know he really like it's kind of crazy that he was never a batman villain unless he wasn't i'm drawing a blank on it but it feels like he like that was a place for over

actors to eat and he like all through like at the peak of his powers he never maybe he was just holding out for superman but that would have been the wildest because like yeah superman is by design like the least you know just the most down the middle human right yeah exactly non-human yeah but yeah sorry superman twitter don't get mad at me dude what is superman twitter even that just sounds like it exists i don't know i don't want to be there i don't want to know i don't want superman twitter to come for me at all no but yeah maybe let's talk about another coppola yeah his uncle francis ford coppola yeah don't don't get it twisted cage just ain't a clever name it's a pseudonym to hide the fact that he is a coppola. Don't get it twisted. Cage just ain't a clever name. It's a pseudonym to hide the fact that he is a Coppola.

But dude, I watched that trailer for Megalopolis. This Francis Ford Coppola film that cannot get distribution currently. Yeah. It looks fucking unbelievable. I don't know if it looks good or not, but again, the trailer is so

jam-packed full of acid flashback imagery. Yeah. It looks exactly like what... Okay, so this great filmmaker was like, I've spent the last 15 years making enough money to

blow it all on this movie where nobody can tell me shit. You can't tell me shit, motherfucker. To describe it, a Roman epic set in an imagined modern America. Oh, hell yeah, dude. Dude, fucking Rome to the dome?

Dude, Rome to the dome? As a man? As a man? I just hope there's some sexual imagery every six seconds and that the hero is an eagle and I will be on board. As an eagle-loving man? Yeah.

As a horny eagle-loving man, this appeals to me. I'm taking straight-up Rome shots, dude. I'm telling you. I'm telling you. It's premiering at Cannes. It is wild like the one of the main stories aside from you know this is it's like old school filmmaking where they're talking about they're like some sort of like uh bacchanalia sort of orgy scenes happening

and coppola as his producers would describe it, was getting a little old school. Yeah. Who can act like these scantily clad women who are in this scene. Because he's like, hey, come on, sit on my lap. Or let me give you a little smooch. Because he was, quote, trying to get them in the mood for the scene. Nothing gets a woman in the mood like a 72-year-old. Probably older than that. Like unwanted touching.

80-something, right? Seinfeld's 70, so he's got to be in his 80s if seinfeld 70 ford francis ford coble is 130 years old exactly there's no way yeah he wrote the script in the 80s but could never get a studio to finance it so he sold off part of his wine empire to self-finance the 120 million dollar production and even after like paying for the whole thing himself he hasn't been able to get anyone to distribute it he had like a screening in march for studio heads everybody showed up like a who's who of hollywood uh you know corporate leadership was there and everyone was like there's just no way to position this movie. So you might have to go to Europe to watch this on a big screen.

But how could you... What's the fucking problem? It's a huge budget movie with this legendary director. They're like all these people. I mean, Shia LaBeouf and Jon Voight are in it which i'm already like wow fuck is this cast i mean he compares the protagonist to ayn rand and seems like very positive on ayn rand uh in a way that makes me uncomfortable that's why it's like but then like you hear people who are like from the hollywood reporter when they did some test screening one guy said like it's hard to figure out who the good guy is and the bad guy is and

then i'm like well then maybe it's not that on its face saying right or the person could just be absolutely have terrible film comprehension yeah and they're like yeah the guy who's murdering all of like those innocent women and children that he was the bad guy oh yeah a lot of the complaints from the so we talked about like some of the complaints from the set sound horrible, but others are like... So Adam Driver, he paid $10 million to be in this movie, and his first day on set, he just made him sit in a chair for six hours

while he put a projector on his body and used an old-fashioned fog machine just like move the camera all over him. He also reportedly would spend hours in his trailer, smoking weed before coming out with a bunch of crazy new ideas. Crew members questioned, has this guy ever made a movie before? Um, the guy who made the Godfather and apocalypse now.

Yeah. Yeah. He has, he probably has has he probably has turns out probably has but uh but yeah i dude this guy this guy was selling wine for years just to get to this moment yeah we've got to see it even if it is to just fucking point our fingers and laugh yeah but yeah we shall yeah i don't know i'd rather see a big swing from an 85 year old who's just high out of his mind then you know right or is it just the logic where we're like how are we thinking that an 85 year old dude who's getting spooky handsy on set getting

fucking stoned out of his mind is actually going to make a good movie and maybe all these distributors are like dude I'm not going to tell Francis that this shit sucked ass so I'm just going to be like yeah man this is a hard way to position this one and they're like they're looking at their friends during the jerk off and this shit was a fucking it's just so

visionary jack off hand motion jack off hand motion but I mean it's secured distribution for five major European territories, but still has no US distribution. So we'll see. I mean, maybe

it'll get some heat at Cannes. Maybe it'll get like a 12 minute standing ovation, and that will be enough for somebody to take a chance on it. We'll see. We shall see. Khan! Furiosa

and also a movie we talked about a while back when it was announced The Sebastian Stan as Donald Trump film The Apprentice. Furiosa's been getting a lot of talk because Anya Taylor Joy has been, everyone is talking about how cryptic she's been,

um, in describing her experience making the movie. Like that's all everyone is talking about. Uh, yeah. And it was like, well, what does she mean?

What is she, what's going on? Uh, but I, I don't know. We shall see. We shall see. Um,

I remember reading similar stuff about Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron from Fury Road that they were like, we thought this was a Coppola situation that this guy had completely lost his fucking mind during the making of that movie. And then you come out and it's like, oh, every single thing was perfect. And he just knew exactly what he was doing. single thing was perfect and he just like knew exactly what he was doing um so yeah when they asked she said quote i've never been more alone than making that movie i don't want to go too deep into it but everything i thought was going to be easy was hard wow that's uh that's super dark yeah a lot of you're like a um that uh yeah uh charlie's their own tom hardy like wanted to kill each other so right yeah that's what she said quote this is what their own said in 2022 it was like two parents in the front of the car we were either fighting or we were icing each other i don't know which one is worse

and they had to deal with it in the back it was horrible we should not have done that we should have been better i can own i can own up to that yeah um and then at the beginning of production apparently anya taylor joy said quote i want it to be changed i want to be put in a situation in extremis where i would have no choice but to grow and i got it wow so yeah i i hope it was fun for you is the same the same director too? Miller? Yeah, yeah. And is his wife editing it too? Because I feel like that's what was key to Mad Max Fury Road, was his wife editing it, who was not an action. Yeah, isn't an action editor.

And a lot of people, I remember all my filmmaking friends were like, dude, it's like someone about just having someone like her edit it, which is what really makes it good. I don't know who the editor will be on this one. Margaret Sixel is, yeah, George Miller's wife. Okay, there you go. Yeah, yeah. Same editor. Is she also doing Furiosa?

Yes, she is. Edited by Margaret Sixel. Okay. Well, then, hey, I'm back, baby. I'm back. Hopefully, it wasn't a terrible. You just took six L's on that one, bro. Oh, boy. All right.

Thanks for that. That's it. That's as good as it's going to get. We are back tomorrow with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourself. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we will

talk to y'all tomorrow bye bye i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo gray former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk you get your podcasts. Like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation,

then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People

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