The Daily Zeitgeist - Super Spreader Pence, Borat Hits Different 10.27.20

Episode Date: October 27, 2020

In episode 744, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Marcella Arguello to discuss Mike Pence possibly having covid-19, the grocery store wars, vaccinating Santa Claus, Lil Pump endorsing Trump, Borat 2, and more!FOOTNOTES: Members of Pence’s Inner Circle Test Positive for Coronavirus How did Trader Joe’s weather the pandemic better than Whole Foods? Trump Official Planned to Give Santa Claus Performers Early Access to Covid-19 Vaccine Trump Administration Shelves COVID-Vaccine Santa Clause Macy's cancels in-person Santa visits for holiday season A very Covid Christmas: Mall Santas will see kids from behind plexiglass snowglobes Lil Pump Endorses Donald Trump For President, Says 'F*** Sleepy Joe' ‘Borat 2’: The 17 Craziest Pranks, Ranked and Investigated WATCH: Lil Wayne - I Feel Like Dying (Flying Lotus Remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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aka jack o'lantern aka pumpkins o'brien uh and i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host a.k.a. Jack-O-Lantern, a.k.a. Pumpkins O'Brien. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Don't go sparking water bombs. Just stick to the Sherlock's and steamrollers you're used to. I know that you're gonna play some hydro or some purple stuff. But I just think you're already stoned. Listen, y'all don't hear me. Okay, shout out to Toilet Bound Hanako-san and Jeek on the Discord.

That was another twofer. One person started off with an idea. Another person finished it. I'd love to see the fucking synergy on the Discord. So shout out to y'all for that. Was that person's name toilet bound something toilet bound hanako-san yes nice love it does that mean they are stuck on the toilet uh you know i haven't really gone deep into the lore of hanako-san's you know the the legend um it could be a curse in which she was just you know connected to a toilet for life by an evil sorcerer. I don't know.

Or maybe it could be IBS. I don't know. I don't know. Danny Glover and Lethal Weapon 2, where you can't get up off of the toilet seat. How did he realize? Was it the toilet paper? Yeah,

I think they left a note for him or something like that. That's weird. Don't fuck with people when they're doing shit. They were doing it. It was like a timed hit where cops all across Los Angeles were getting blown up. Oh, that's right. With the diving board. There was another thing.

The diving board's the one that sticks with me. Anyways, Miles, it's election time. We're trimming down the format. We're getting right into the shit. Right in. So let's tell the people what we're talking about. We're going to talk about Mike Pence and whether he has COVID. We're going to talk about the pandemic grocery wars.

We're going to talk about whether I feel like I'm seeing a bunch of like paid Trump 2020 SponCon all over the place. Or maybe the news cycle is just tired of like a biden seems to be winning by the same margin he has the whole time thing so we'll talk about that we'll talk about this trump administration plan to uh use mall santa clauses to uh popularize the vaccine for covet 19 wait what um i missed yeah we'll get into that is joke or no nothing's a joke anymore it's 2020 that's a joke or no his joke or 2020 his joke or 2020 uh it's 2020 uh it's piss puck uh we're gonna talk about borat we're gonna talk about the shitty merch game of both the campaigns.

All of that, plenty more. But first, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, the talented Marcel Arguello! It's me. What's up? It's me. The Bay Area Beyonce. Oh, don't say that.

That'll make me mad. Somebody's going to be mad if you say that well just add vocally vocally as impersonations yeah that's dangerous you can get me in hot water with that you think there's someone up there who's like i'm the bay area beyonce i'm beyonce i'm beyonce la to the bay it's not even you know what? In these times of sensitivity, it's not even the accuracy. It's the audacity of saying shit. And I'm just like, no, I'm not black. I didn't say that.

I didn't say Bay Area Beyonce. Oh, yeah. For people who don't know, the impersonation. I mean, you should just do prank calls and raise money for a good cause. I probably could. That's actually funny. It's funny. It's me, Beyonce.

Oh, my God, hold on. Who do you want to speak to? Raise money for AIDS. You heard of AIDS? We raising money for that shit. Thank you so much for your donations. Marcella, what are you up to actually? We're not asking how are you anymore

because everybody's shitty. I mean, I'm not shitty. I'll say that i'm fucking last time you're like i'm living my best i'm fucking i'm doing great i'm sorry that your other guests are failing at life they don't know how to make the most out of their situations right what's new what's your new what's the new wave with you what's what's his last time um i bought a keyboard so i'm learning'm learning Christmas songs because my dad used to play piano. I mean, my dad was a musician.

He played piano, played guitar and sang. And so I realized I miss most his Christmas song playing on the piano because we still have his piano. My mom was like, I'm going to get rid of it. I was like, no, you're not, bitch. What? So but I was like, I can't keep it and then not learn stuff. So I bought a little keyboard so I could just like play wherever, whatever.

And it's kind of cool. Yeah. Have you always been figuring it out? You figuring it out? I'm figuring it out. Yeah. I'm learning. Right now I'm on Jingle Bells, you know, the classic.

It's good. But on the left hand is what's fucking me up, you know, doing it too. Yeah. Yeah. While you play. Hit you know, doing the two. Yeah. Doon, doon, doon, while you play. Hit those chords, you know what I mean? Hitting those chords. Set the table for that melody. That just reminded me of the only song I can play, which is the beginning of Run Away by Kanye West.

Oh, God. The four notes. This is awful. Why am I here? I don't know. I can't stand this, dude. You're rejected. That's the equivalent of Stairway to Heaven when you go to a guitar center,

but in the beat making section. Yeah. Where they're like, no runaway on the MPC. Yeah. Hold up, though. We got you. We got you. We got you.

I remember that whole time I was so pissed. I think I've talked about this before because that was not like skillful MPC playing. There are people who are nice on drum machines like who you think they're playing a live kit and I was like this man is just playing one button at a time but you know Kanye he's like what if we just break it down

what if we strip it down cause I'm not gonna lie I was like yo this should go and then when people were feeling it too much then I was like a hater I was like yeah but the thing with the NPC was weak though but yeah where are you from miles the valley oh my god typical valley behavior well i bet if i said delaware you're gonna be like typical delaware baby joke writing works where are you like that's my favorite thing to do with an audience i miss shout out to audiences i miss you guys right just like whatever they say i just immediately

like yeah typical whatever like it doesn't even make sense people just typical see me valley over here we're drunk this is she's hilarious she just goes off the top of her head how does she do it it's like she's done this 5 000 times before before. Just trying to move it along. Did you play instruments though before? Are you like learning how to play piano right now? I'm basically learning, but when I was a kid, I mean,

my dad wanted us to learn. And so he did buy me a piano. I mean, I'm sorry, a keyboard when I was a kid. I mean, he was a fucking psychopath. So I couldn't like really learn from him.

And I just maybe be like, I don't, I'd rather just never do this and then right right right i mean yeah and he was abusive and so i was like i'm not gonna do this so now i'm like you know i kind of miss and i also realize because none of us play none of my nieces and nephews give a shit about that stuff so i was like you know it'd be cool if i could just learn a few basics and then be like oh did you want to come over here and learn i can teach you you know then they just you know they can play like basic melodies and shit so that's kind of you know just family shit i just love my family yeah but that's

great that you're like you're even thinking of it for like posterity sake sake and like preserving like traditions within your family too i mean it's not just like i'm latina bitch i'm latina is what we do that's what we do. It's what we do. Alright, well, speaking of what you do, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are or what you're up to? Well, yesterday, because I've been, again, spending

a lot of time with my family, so yesterday I was with my mom, and she has a really great inside plant collection, and of course she has her great oasis in the back. But she's always bragging. Everybody always comes by and they're like, wow, your plants are so healthy.

So she was saying how she was told that the Wi-Fi helps the plants grow. Do you know this? Did you hear about this? No, but I love that. When your mom just comes right back with that, she's like, oh, it's the Wi-Fi. Well, no, she's saying someone recently told her that, so now she's playing music from the TV in the house

because the plants are right next to the TV. Got you. And so I was like, is there truth to that? So I looked it up. And so, of course, there's arguments for both sides, like everything. Even Wi-Fi grows plants. Yeah, so some people think there's arguments for both sides, like everything. Even Wi-Fi grows plants. Yeah, so some people think it's bad for your plants,

and some people say, no, it's actually very good for your plants. But, of course, there's not enough research to prove any side of it. What's the logic behind the Wi-Fi actually stimulating the growth? Something about the fucking waves, the electricity. And my mom was – here's the thing that was funny to me was my mom was like i think it's like you know you're supposed to talk to your plants so instead of talking to your plants you have the music playing for the plants but but yeah i mean i didn't really get into it that deep but yeah it's the fucking waves and shit just it's energy it's energy waves that's what we've been saying it's all waves you know

it's wavy but it is it's the energy that's coming out i mean they're it's just like if something can kill them right anything can kill a fucking plant you sneeze on a plant and you got covid it's gonna kill that plant i don't know if that's true but that's for sure i mean even if you have or you can water it motherfuckers water plants and they die over water yes i'm saying you got the wrong kind of dirt you got the wrong kind of dirt they won't they won't stick to that so i'm i'm saying you got the wrong kind of dirt you got the wrong kind of dirt they won't stick to that so I'm like you know what I believe this bitch you know I'll believe her I'm gonna give her this one

it was interesting I feel like I have heard that classical music like is good for plants but that like all things I feel like classical music is like there's such a classical music bias. It's just like old ass white people who work in the media just being like, classical music

makes your children smarter. Classical music makes plants grow stronger. Fuck classical music. Classical music is like the antebellum period for music lovers. Like, well, before black people got a hold of it and started making it good. This is why I like coming on this podcast because you guys always get to the shit that i would have usually said back in the day and then people would get mad at me for saying that shit but you guys nailed it i love this i love that's why we lose we lose listeners so

rapidly at this point i'm pretty sure it's this is for just my mom who's listening now and she's mad because she raised me on classical music i mean i love classical music but it is something it has its place but the science thing you were talking about i felt like that was the one of the earliest like boring ass dry ass science fair projects kids would do it was always like uh like how to make this volcano with the fucking baking soda and another one was like will a plant grow faster with rock music, classical music, or no music? And does Coca-Cola help? Watch this thing get dissolved by Coca-Cola. It's just like, depending on what it is.

I had the most fucked up. Just my insides. I didn't want to watch my insides get dissolved by Coca-Cola. I had the shittiest one. I got the word i hated science classes terrible at it like one of mine was just like how long will it take for a bone to decompose in my yard and i was like yeah this is low stakes and my my teacher's like what did you prove exactly i'm like nothing also my dog ate the bone and i had to go i had to go to kfc

and eat a fucking just get a good old uh drumstick bone and microwave the shit out of it. I put it in the oven to try and make that shit look old as fuck. And then my teacher was like, what is this? It was all bad. I love kids. They're so stupid. Even when we're trying to be good and the shit doesn't work out. And you're like, how do I make up for this?

I didn't plan for this disaster. And you can't say that to your teachers because then they're just like, no, you didn't do the assignment. I was like, no, I did, but my dog did my homework. Cut to me like crying on my bike riding to KFC because I'm like, I'm going to get a bone. When your homework is literally a bone, it's tough for your dog not to eat your homework. Exactly. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated?

Okay, look, my underrated, overrated are basically not one and the same. There's two sides of the same coin. I don't know what the expression to use, but texting and calling. Okay, I think calling is underrated. Calling your homies is underrated. And texting is fine because I do it all the time. I also call all my friends, but I hate people that are just like, especially on Twitter, you see it all the time. You're going to FaceTime me without a warning?

It's like, yeah, you ugly bitch. Answer your fucking FaceTime. I'm your friend. I don't care what you look like, you stupid ass, selfish bitch. I just want to talk to you and see you.

So, I'm just kind of sick of this attitude of like, especially right, especially right now. Right now is the time to get into calling your friends

if you've never been into it. But I've been into it since I was a kid, you know, I used to have that Garfield phone. Oh, hey. Oh, shit. Look at you. shit i know i think we got it at a garage sale um but uh yeah i i love i love talking on the phone my friends all know my close friends know that i just love i'll i'll call them all the time not all the time but frequently time flies on a phone call oh my god it's so fun it, it's time travel. Like one of my boys called me over the weekend.

And I was like, next thing you know, he's like, damn, we were just talking for 50 minutes. And he's like, and I was just calling to tell you about this one thing. And I was like,

I know it. And then this is what happens. You start being like, remember this, what's going on? What? Oh my God. All right,

be safe. Kiss the children for me. Cause you love each other. And that's all it is. Phone calls are such a good way to express the love for each other. And I think also because of social media, people think that they're seeing their friends. You know, like, oh, yeah, I've seen you. It's like, you haven't talked to this person in so long.

You need to call each other. Hearing each other's voices is so nice. That's also why people like listening to podcasts. It's like they're hearing their friends talk. Right. To the listener right now, especially you, Jerry. We are talking to you and uh you rebecca uh we love you i like that you just picked the two most popular names in america

yeah jerry and rebecca yeah you know i am um i just have to here goes. He can't even get this thing down. He's getting verklempt. He's getting verklempt. Typical Valley behavior. I have to just say, because there may be listeners who are like me, or maybe I'm uniquely fucked, but time for me when I'm on a phone call goes actually much slower, and I don't know why. That's just probably like... Even like a personal call? Even like with a friend, yeah. Are you looking at your watch? You're like, oh my god.

Oh my god. I'm always trying to figure out the nearest off-ramp. It's bad. How many close friends do you have? Oh, that's a complicated question. Yeah, see, you're just a piece of shit. Yeah, I bet.

I still feel your observation. I weren't even letting me in. I still feel your observation. I haven't talked to my homie for six, seven months. We've just been texting a lot. I called him for his birthday over the weekend and it's totally different. I forgot how much I love the sound

of your voice. Now let me get the fuck off this call. Here's my thing though. it's all you need though i'm not saying you got to be on the phone for an hour to to catch up with people yeah yeah but like yeah a quick call sometimes it's better than like i mean especially especially right now we're not seeing people you know we're texting is time is getting lost through texting you know because it's like you think you're talking to people and next thing you know you're like damn i haven't talked to this person or it feels like you talk to them a lot but really you're not because the time is

going so slow in life and then texting is like not it's not sufficient that's all i'm saying it's not sufficient i'm sorry you don't have any close friends that you love chatting on the phone with no it is sad were you ever a phone chatter though jack even as like a kid like you know is not sufficient. I'm sorry you don't have any close friends that you love chatting on the phone with. No, it is sad. Were you ever a phone chatter though, Jack? Even as a kid? Like, you know, and be like,

get off that phone, Jack! Like, were you even... No, I had like... When I was in fifth grade... I had a girlfriend in fifth grade... See, I told you! I called it! Who like wanted to talk for hours on the phone. And I would play...

That's how I got good at that game, Labyrinth, with the marble. God, I hate men. You were just playing. It's totally mindless. It's not a good thing where you just listen to some REM, play Labyrinth, and talk to Leanne. I would be on the phone with anybody for hours at a time. Are you watching Cops cops right now too? and then not talk for like 10 minutes

and then be like oh shit oh my god what the fuck are they thinking alright anyway that's that old school bonding I love that shit yeah I miss that shit sorry Jack I don't not like talking to people it sounds like you hate talking to everybody

it sounds like you hate talking to us right now. Why do you hate me, bro? I'm out here just trying to connect. I'm trying to connect with you, and you're just like, ugh. You're like, yeah, just let me in. But yeah, I think just even for a quick one, just call and say, you good? Hey, all right, fine. Hey, it's good to hear your voice it

hits so different hearing a voice that's yeah it does do you think maybe we're we long for it more because we kind of came up in the time when the only thing we had to communicate with our friends was a telephone like yeah even before a.i.m like you just will call somebody on the phone and yeah but i wonder if like it's so inbuilt that we still desire that 100 true and which is also true for you know our parents generation like they would you know yeah they love the phone um and that's why i i really hate that this is these younger kids these kids these days they're just not they don't they don't even know how wonderful it is because they they've never really done it you know it's not the thing that they do i mean remember when three-way calling came out these white bitches tried to

trap me into talking shit oh man that was so funny like the drama that you can get what do you think of her you're like what that was like let me tell you oh you came to the right place no no you know what happened she said oh what did you think about Mandy? And I was like, oh, yeah, remember what you said? You said that she was a fucking bitch. I do agree with that. I do agree that what you said about her being a fucking bitch. I didn't even know I was getting set up.

Yeah. But I fucking fucked their friendship up for a little while. It was great. There you go. The whole thing. Take them all down with you. Yeah, it was fun. It was like a better version of that Mean Girls scene.

Right, right. But what do you think of Super Producer Anna Hosnier, actually, Marcella? What do I think of her? I think she's fucking great. We Zoomed before I did the first quarantine daily zeitgeist, and I was so happy to catch up with her. I forced her on the phone. I was like, stay on. Let's catch up, bitch bitch and she was just like okay i'll stay on and then we

were catching up and we're having fun it was like we were hanging out because i do i love especially with women like it's just so fun to catch up we're so great me and anna kind of look like we're related got that lebanese blood in me so we look like we're related you know i can see the same cookout for sure yeah what is uh what's something you think is overrated is it the texting it's the texting yeah yeah yeah all right i think i and i don't want to i don't really i don't know if overrated is the right word but it's more just like we're too dependent on it for connection it's that it's insufficient to properly convey the emotion and like connection that you have to people just through text i mean that's what we should have known when sarcasm didn't

get through on my yeah this texting shit is dumb well it's also just like it bleeds into dming right because it's like in my head i'm like oh i was just talking i was just texting with her the other day and it's like no you we were dming and that is its own bullshit you know because you really you're only talking about what you're seeing online or what somebody else posts and the next thing you know you're like wait, I haven't actually texted her. I haven't called her. I hate it.

I hate it. Alright guys, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. No! I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project.

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where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? The Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County rebels with the image of... It's right here in black and white in the prints of a lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team?

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Do you ever wonder where your favorite foods come from? Like what's the history behind bacon-wrapped hot dogs? Hi, I'm Eva Longoria. Hi, I'm Maite Gomez-Rejon. Our podcast, Hungry for History, is back. Season two. Season two. Are we recording? Are we good? Oh, we push record, right?

And this season, we're taking an even bigger bite out of the most delicious food and its history. Saying that the most popular cocktail is the margarita, followed by the mojito from Cuba, and the piña colada from Puerto Rico. So, all of these things. We thank Latin

culture. There's a mention of blood sausage in Homer's Odyssey that dates back to the 9th century B.C. B.C.? I didn't realize how old the hot dog was. Listen to Hungry for History as part of the And we're back. mike pence has covid god he's so sexy just kidding no maybe he looks so official in that borat we are going to talk about borat eventually he looked so official and reassuring when he was up there being like, and they will, COVID will go away tomorrow. That was a crazy scene,

but we're talking about him now. 15 people. Uh, you will now, because over the weekend we found out this, look, I don't know how to say it, but it looks like there was a full on fucking outbreak in his circle.

Like the amount of people that have tested positive for covid from his chief of staff to like his like body man which is like you know another just you know your assistant basically the person that's with you all the time at least five people um have tested positive yet him and mother very negative they tested very negative oh they're very safe but this statement this is what has a lot of people talking about because everyone's like oh my god well you know if the vice if he's been around people that have tested positive he should probably quarantine you know in the name of fucking safety and shit rather than you doing super spreader events but yeah you can't expect them to do that when he's captain charisma he's got to be out there winning them votes. Yeah, confirming Army Coney Barcat to the Supreme Court,

which Democrats are like, please don't go there. If you have been around all these COVID people, please don't kill everybody. But the reasoning here from a press aide from the vice president's office is, quote, while Vice President Pence is considered a close contact with Mr. Short, someone who tested positive, in consultation with the White House Medical Unit, the Vice President will maintain his schedule in accordance with the CDC guidelines for essential personnel. Yeah. That's crazy.

Who be more official? More essential than this. Be more essential than Mike Pence. If this guy's not essential, I'll tell you what. I've seen veep i've seen how important the vice president's office actually is to what goes on they're on top of each other i would just find it funny if because now he's like not allowed to be near women or whatever the fuck his bullshit thing is about women that like only the people on his staff that

are only the men on his staff got it all the women didn't that would be funny yeah i think unfortunately maybe you actually it may have been all guys we'll have to look at this point they're keeping everything so secretive like it's hard to know who what's the truth um but you know again he's going to like he has a rally that he was going to monday uh he has another one but they don't even believe in it anyways do you know what i mean like even if you have it they don't believe that it's dangerous so it's like it's it's of course he's doing it of course it's going to be packed of course these people want to fucking put their mouth on him they're fucking brainwashed yeah mark short the dude is specifically somebody who believes his mouth on oh yeah no and he was no he was out here telling people all the time

saying oh covid it wasn't real it's like had that big hoax attitude when it came to covid big hoax energy i mean trump was the same right right they just don't oh man yeah they don't how many pastors have we lost because of that you know i know um it's what are you gonna do uh let's talk about the pandemic grocery war um it's been bad bad news for whole foods which i was at first surprised by but when you kind of explained it to me miles it made a little more sense well yeah right it's it's everything apparently so the regular your kroger's myers etc like your normal national chain like super i love the word normal i love that you use the word normal on that okay well yeah because i want to say before you go to like your you know bugetto whole foods where like you overpay for the artichoke um right like you know the the all

the chains that we know are ralph's and etc they're they've had a spike obviously they've had growth because it makes sense people are shopping differently they all call it like mission-based shopping now uh because it means i gotta load the fuck up this ain't about oh i'll come back in a couple hours if i forgot something everyone is like no i need to stock the fuck up um so those companies great they're they've had growth while also not actually paying their workers i know remember kroger had like their hero bonus that like lapsed real quick uh when they're like well we're only going we're only going to acknowledge covid for about six four months uh and then you know it's on you so now there's been a little bit of analysis on the industry because also looking at trader joe's and whole foods they so trader joe's had a drop in

sales of 16 from march to september and whole foods had a drop in 30 by 33 and they're like what the fuck they so they wanted to dig deeper and be like is it both the same are they both fucked up for the same reasons and they said they're more expensive what the fuck? So they wanted to dig deeper and be like, is it both the same? Are they both fucked up for the same reasons? And they said, quote. Right, because they're more expensive, more prestige. Well, but I mean, Trader Joe's, you can get some decent priced things relative to what you're getting. Especially in the frozen section. Oh, yeah.

It says, quote, quote, while both chains saw nearly a 60% drop in year over year business in April, Trader Joe's managed to recover over the summer. And by September, its decrease in business was about the same as the regional change. Whole Foods, however, continued to lag. And in September, it was 25% less than the year before. So they're still down pretty significantly. And their theory is that for the people who are doing this study quote, that Trader Joe's was much more successful at adapting to the mission driven shopping pattern that has accelerated across the country during the pandemic so meaning people were a just more down to travel as far as they did to get their like trader joe's shit because you know there's some shit you can only

fucking get at trader joe's and once you get used to that shit you're like fuck it i'm going the other thing is that they really tried to make the waiting in line process as pleasant as possible because, A, they wanted to make it safe indoors. So they kept the stores pretty empty. And already, if you've been to a Trader Joe's during normal shopping hours, being in an empty Trader Joe's, you'd be like, is this a fantasy world that I love being in? Because most of the time, yo, I went to one in Manhattan. Yo, this one in Manhattan, the Lower East Side, it's a fucking loop. You just stand in line, and on your way to the register, you just shop on your way to get there.

Yeah, you just grab shit, and you can't go back. You can't go back to try. And I'm like, who the fuck is this? Very different. They're like, don't go. He's like, ask someone in back if they can get you the peanut butter stuffed pretzels. Don't go back, sir. Yo, I've been fucking up some peanut butter stuffed pretzels. Don't go back, sir.

Yo, I've been fucking up some peanut butter stuffed pretzels for the past week. Those are so good. They're fantastic. But I mean, the thing that we're basically saying is that Trader Joe's has shit you can't get anywhere else. And Whole Foods has worse versions of shit you can get everywhere else. Do you know what Trader Joe's does? More expensive and less flavorful. I mean, I don't know.

Less chemicals. That means flavor. I was going to say, you know what Trader Joe's does is they find small companies that have really delicious stuff. They cut a deal where they put their own labels on it. I got really upset when I heard that. Oh, yeah. It's like...

I just don't like it because they're not really supporting these companies, but they kind of are because they're cutting the deal. I don't know. Yeah, well, I'm sure probably they have larger orders. I don't know the ins and outs of mass food production aside from it's probably dark and grim. But the other thing they're noticing is with Whole Foods shoppers, they're not as loyal to the to the tj's brand so a lot of white people they just upped and fucked off to like they just fucked off to their local market because they're like why the fuck i gotta go here

anyway plus like you know they go into a store and they remember that that craft blue box mac and cheese actually hit way harder than that annie's bunny nonsense that's true i mean that annie's bunny shit is gross man it's got to be blue box for me i'm sorry you know and i get that sure it could be more organic whatever the fuck but i'm sorry the blue box is what it is that is there's only one blue box there's only mac and cheese and i don't really shop at whole foods i'm i like a i like a cheap meal yeah uh anna hosni warns me that my mentions are over, but you know what? I will put my body on the line against Annie's bunnies.

I like the little crackers, though, like the cheese ones they make for the little bunnies. Yeah, yeah, that's a great snack. But not the mac and cheese, okay? And I'll go on record saying that. Mac and cheese is pretty rough by comparison. You know what's helpful? Actually, brown mustard.

You put that in, it makes it a little bit harder. Into your Annie's? Yeah, into your Annie's or any mac and cheese. Any boxed mac and cheese. Brown mustard? God, this is wild. Spice it up a little bit. It's a Rachel Ray shit.

Yeah, Rachel Ray shit, definitely. I thought you said interracial shit. And I was like, maybe he did learn it from his lady. Like, damn, yeah. That's a Korean tip. I think that's actually bachelor shit when the only thing you have in your house is mustard and Kraft mac and cheese. That's funny, too.

I somehow convinced myself that those improve each other. That's funny, too, because men think buying brown mustard makes them fancy. So that's actually, that checks out. That logic checks out. Oh, yeah. That's how superficial we are. And I'm like, I brought name brand Q-tips. I mean, I'm a 1%-er now, baby.

Men are notoriously bad at buying good Q-tips. Yeah. Or having them at all. Yeah. I wonder if Whole Foods will bounce back because it is. I think so Jeff Bezos made like 5 trillion dollars so I'm sure he can float them for a couple years

the thing that Whole Foods I feel like is known for is a thing that people don't really have the luxury and that you have to keep going back for which is like the fresh produce and shit that's like an expendable thing or like a thing that expires really quickly and that you have to keep going back for, which is the fresh produce and shit. Yeah.

That's an expendable thing, or a thing that expires really quickly. I would also think that most people don't even think of Whole Foods as a place for food, because most people just call it a whole paycheck. If they did their own market research, most people just think we're a troll store for people to throw their money away in, and you actually don't leave with groceries. That's true, though.

Whole Foods is a waste of money. But I think that's where they're trying to figure out what to do. The other thing is that because of all the Amazon Prime delivery, the stores are just way more crowded because you do have wealthy people who are like, please, sir. Sending servants. Yeah, please go and collect my groceries. And then that causes a jam within the stores. So at the end of the day, a lot of people were just saying, Trader Joe's, they were appreciating that aspect of it.

But the pandemic grocery wars, I feel like they've only begun. I'm a food for less gal myself. Yeah, there's, I mean there's everything uh superior warehouse uh you know uh there's just so many options to get food closer to you because whole foods are so they're usually far away from most people yeah yeah well and that's how you know like when a place is fully gentrified yeah we are within two miles of a whole foods like we've done it the property values have skyrocketed and people who used to live here have been pushed out yeah that's true i remember a

white lady telling me she was excited that of the change the changes happening to highland park she's like hopefully we get a whole food soon i was like you fucking devil bitch you're like have you been to the local store right there their shit is more fresh than the whole food exactly and there's so many options i I don't know. All right. Let's talk about the plan for the war on Christmas. Jason Pargin came on the show a couple weeks ago and brought up how Christmas was going to be politicized this year more than ever because it was going to be a question of whether you could have your relatives around you.

And obviously the people who are like, we must protect Christmas with our bodies and our long rifles are the same people who don't believe in COVID. So it's going to be wild. head uh the president's homie uh michael caputo we've talked about him because he got 300 million dollars for an ad campaign intended to defeat despair uh that's a quote with the help of mega celebrity powerhouses like dr oz and dennis quaid um wait what was that for? Oh, was that when you were out? That was like, they would just have Dennis Quaid would be on a podcast where he talks about how COVID was going to be over soon

and it wasn't as bad as it seemed. Yeah, it's this whole idea that you just... It's a despair thing. That's what it is. Connecting the fact that people get depressed from being locked in their houses to... And therefore, we should just be happy and go about our regular business like nothing's happening. Yeah. Regular business being you're underpaid.

You have no health insurance. That's right. There's poverty abounds. Regular business at the meat factory. Regular business. Right. that's right there's there's poverty abounds regular business at the meat regular business right like so anyways caputo wanted an additional 250 million dollars uh for a campaign that would provide a covid vaccine to professional santa clauses ahead of the general public oh my god then they would be able to go to work in america's malls oh my god and promote the vaccine to all the kids who sat on their lap which seems what doesn't that sound like a nathan

for you bit like that i'm fully expecting nathan for you to be like season four y'all weren't even ready i got into the department of health and human services disguise myself with someone named michael caputo uh it's just such like cocaine energy to be like yeah and then we're gonna get we're gonna get them all santas and they're gonna the kids already trust them and the fucking parents do too man if you're like dude this santa has been pre-vaccinated like don't worry about it you know i mean like oh fuck yeah dude oh yeah because what kid wouldn't want an experimental medication that's been rushed out to uh satisfy satisfy uh you want a truck well what about experimental vaccine instead yeah oh also it suggests that the vaccine isn't available to families who don't celebrate christ. Oh, my God.

And very in keeping with the theme of the Trump administration. The reason we found out about this is Caputo had a call with Rick Irwin, who is the head of the Fraternal Order of Real Bearded Santas. None of that fake beard shit. I'm sorry. Is that a serious sentence? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's people, so there's like these old retired dudes who really take pride in being like the real Santa Claus.

And, you know, they have their own little union. And this dude who is the head of it got a call from Caputo who said to him, if you and your colleagues are not essential workers, I don't know what is. And then Caputo who said to him if you and your colleagues are not essential workers i don't know what is and then and then caputo also said i cannot wait to tell the president he's gonna love this dude his website is makes me want to drink a bunch of acetone what is it uh who everyone singing santa.com and it's Singing Santa and Diva Claus. Welcome to our home on the web.

And it's a straight up like Angel Fire website with the animated background and shit. Oh my God. And I think his wife is Diva Claus. And they got all these like headshots and just weird shit. They're like, they got the Southern California singing bearded Santa game on lock, I guess. Yeah.

There's a whole thing called Santa Con where all these dudes come hang out. They're going to spread COVID to each other. Right. So there's a quid pro quo where Santas get the vaccine first, and then Santa Claus is politicized as a tool of the trump administration um the only reason that this plan didn't go through is uh obviously like there's no vaccine so uh for starters they didn't get that vaccine in time unfortunately uh so the plan doesn't quite work i'm just like picturing like all the santa's going to get this vaccine and then all the mrs claus is being like i'm an anti-vaxxer right right right happily

in marriage and oh man this is just wow i mean santa as a political tool of the trump administration makes a lot of sense perfect sense yeah red also like the embodiment of like consumer capitalism during the holidays which is santa being like protected like there's also like the metaphor of like nothing can bring down our holiday impulse to buy shit either i thought you're gonna say nothing can bring down the white man no that's everyone's favorite white man is Santa Claus, right? He's the best. I think so, right? Who's more loved than Tom Hanks? Who ran higher?

Tom Hanks as Santa? Tom Hanks as... Ooh. He played the... Tim Allen as... That would have been powerful if they hadn't fucked up the computer animation for Polar Express,

where Tom Hanks was the guy who welcomed you onto the Polar Express. I'm pretty sure he was uh the guy who like welcomed you onto the polar express and i'm pretty sure he was also the model for santa claus anyways i just want to read this conversation that they had together um caputo we're in partnership with many organizations and we're getting in more every day if we got into a partnership with you and your colleagues we can do something where we employ you know you go to your colleagues who are in different cities where we're having events and have them help. And when the vaccine is available, you get vaccinated first.

And like Irwin was like, yo, people are going to not like that. We're getting the vaccine. Even the head of the Santa committee was like Santa knows Santa knows. But then Irwin at this part of the conversation was like, you set up a station in Southern California and I'll put 50 Santas in full costumes in front of the cameras and you let me know what other cities you're operating in and I'll send Santas there.

Pluto goes, all right, okay, I'm in Santa if you're in. Like he thought he was really talking to Santa Claus. Also, I love it's like a mob boss who's like, yo, I can get 50 Teamsters there on that site ASAP with bats and two by fours if you need me to. Just an added piece of insight into the world of career

Santas. Erwin said, oh, I'm in. I'm 100% in. I'm in like Elvin. Oh my god. So that's what they do instead of in like Flynn or something. They say in like Elvin because elves, my God. So that's what they do instead of in like Flynn or something. They say in like Elvin because elves, I guess. Oh, fuck right off.

Also, your name is Erwin. You could have just said, I'm in like Erwin. Or it's been like, I'm sure. They're obviously not that clever. Yeah. I'm in like Elvin. Elvin who? You know, Elvin the elf elf he dresses up like elvis

trump would would have been the like it would have been possible for him to uh politicize santa claus if he wasn't just like such a monster with no empathy he had a call with a seven-year-old a couple years ago where he was like are you still still a believer in Santa? Because at seven, it's marginal, right? The kid was like, no, you couldn't hear the kid. It's margarine? I don't know that word, sir. I'm fucking seven.

You're gonna do a margin call on Santa. Yeah, let's see where we're at on that. What the hell? What are these topics? This is crazy. What was this world? This is our world. this is crazy what was this world this is our world anyways it's also worth noting our writer jam pointed out that like these people who play santa and to like grow real beards are you know typically over the age of 65 and obese so yeah like the two biggest two highest risk of things you could possibly be oh my god

i'm just picturing i'm just picturing the tv movie where they have one santa claus who doesn't take the vaccine and then he becomes a super spreader and it's outbreak yeah he's kissing all the kids yeah or he's like the aaron bro of Santas. He's like, don't do it, guys. I'm telling you. They don't have the holiday at heart. They're doing it for themselves. And this is not what us as Santas should be doing. We're here to spread the love of consumer capitalism in Christ.

Oh, man. A Target toy brochure came in the mail. And it's my four-year-old's favorite book now. I believe it. I used to love that shit. Love a catalog. He's got that shit memorized. He's like, okay, so there's this one on this page.

It's that thick one, right, with the staples? Yeah, it's got staples. That's dangerous. You're done. Ten pages. We're fucked. Yeah, Toys R Us used to send one. Remember? That was the shit. Oh, my God. staples it's like that's dangerous you're done 10 pages it's we're fucked yeah toys r us used to send one remember that was the shit oh my god that or i used to do that with east bay

like sport athletic shit like i will circle all the sneakers i would tally it up and i'm like all right i need 972 dollars and 68 cents to get all the shit i want to hear right and then that's what motivated me to get a job was doing that exercise all the time. There you go. So maybe your 10-year-old will get a job. Yeah. That's right. Let's do it. Just keep telling them.

Because my mom, I would be like, I want this. And she's like, okay, so you got a job too? And I'm like, no. And she's like, so then you need one. And I was like, right, okay, get job. And then I can waste my money and no one can tell me what to do with it. Cut to me with no money in my savings. I mean, I've been trying to figure out how to get this four-year-old

out of the house, off my couch and into the workforce. You hate talking to him, huh? It's bad enough. Exactly. Just sitting there having dinner with that kid. What a nightmare. What's an elf? I don't know. How the fuck can I answer

that question, what an elf is you're a fucking idiot oh fuck what do i do how often do you think your kids are stupid jack like how often do i think like you just go god it's so dumb oh i know you have that thought yeah yeah did you see that viral video where that woman was basically being like if i acted like my children throughout the day and you're just seeing this adult be so sloppy, like washing the hands, like pumping nine times on the soap and then just rinsing the soap right off,

not even washing it, then wiping it on your hands. I did not see that. That's so funny. It's just like great physical humor because it's like, but you know it's born out of an adult being like, you fucking idiot.

What are you doing? And it's just like, it gets to the point you're like, I'm gonna make a video out of this now. And it's like, I you know it's born out of an adult being like you fucking idiot what are you doing and it's just like it gets to the point you're like i'm gonna make a video out of this now and it's like i'm not a comedian i just i've been locked up too long with my kids and i'm gonna make fun of them on tiktok the hand washing thing is yeah it's and it's actually like i the the logic of soap is that like you put it on your hands kills the germs your hands are clean and it's like no that's not how it works. Do they wash their hands? Do they actually wash their hands, Jack? Oh, yeah.

We're big hand washers. My favorite thing used to be when my niece and nephews were hella little, especially the boys. Because the girls, you can kind of trust to wash their hands. But the boys, they'd come out of the bathroom and I'd go, did you wash your hands? And they'd be like, yeah. And I'd be like, let me smell them. And they're like, no. And run back in. Yeah, they have to go back in yeah you cannot trust them yeah i mean speaking of like

how dumb little boys are uh what a bunch of little shit bags four-year-old boys i love it i can't even say it i caught my four-year-old putting the soap, because we have soap that smells really good, smells delicious kind of. He tasted it. And he was putting it up to his mouth. He's going to taste it. I was like, yo! No!

Yep. Wait, what kind of soap you got? Bacon? Oh, we got, it's bath. Yeah, Bath and Body Works soap. Bath and Body Works. The foaming one, huh? The foaming one.

Most of them are, like like there's marshmallow latte. Oh, yeah. Or like warm vanilla sugar. I remember that. That's abusive. Yeah, warm vanilla sugar is the one that my kid was trying to drink. See, now I'm like, why am I slandering this young man? Cut to me.

I would be like, yo, let me get some of your lotion, girl. And she'd just eat it. That's funny. You'd dip my fries in that. I will say that it is kind of abusive that you guys have such delicious smelling scents. Such delicious smelling. Yeah. That is on you.

No, that's not fair. Yeah. Yeah. And good smelling candles, they want to eat those. No, you got to learn. It's like me when I thought dog treats, I would smell and be like, yo, is this kind of lit as a food? This episode has really taken a turn.

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iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Real quick, I want to check with you guys if you're noticing something that I've been noticing, which is that some mainstream media papers are trying to make... I don't know. The front page of the Sunday New York Times this weekend, it seemed like it could have been designed by the Trump administration. There was a headline that was like trump brought manufacturing back is like his economy is doing amazing and then the other headline is about how biden's like ties with the police are frayed like it's like the two talking points of the trump re-election campaign were like the two headlines at the top of the new york. You're also seeing rappers come out

and endorse Trump. Part of me is wondering if they're just like... I don't think they paid for the New York Times headlines. I think that's a function of the fact that the media gets tired of printing

the same story over and over again. The fact that biden's been up by eight points pretty consistently uh the whole past like five months is getting boring for them so they have to like come up with a new angle um but the do you think like lil pump got paid to endorse trump because his talking points are basically like very on like in line with what 50 cents said where where he's like and he even called joe biden sleepy joe which is yeah i mean this is like the chris pratt thing where he like texted all his homies please say something like this about me right right i don't get on Twitter. Avengers, assemble to save my career.

Yeah, same concept. They definitely pulled up for him. Well, Lil Pump, he's friends with Kanye. So there's definitely connective tissue there that the Trump campaign could get to him through Kanye. Also famously is not talented and probably

needs every penny he can get. That's true. Same with Joaquin, walkaka flaka flame over here um i don't know what the fuck this man is going on about wait what i didn't know i didn't know that one yeah yeah waka flaka flame is also on he's also being like oh man i think he's better than obama like. Are you talking about Joaquin? Yes. That's crazy. He tweeted something. What was it?

The big homie Barack Obama violated Trump at a rally event. Oh, no. This is what academics, DJ academics, I think posted a clip of it. Someone else put a comment

who said people who really think Trump is better than Obama are clowns and then Flaca comes in saying, guess I'm a clown. Damn.

Tall dudes are dumb. Is he tall wow yeah it's really that's really i mean that like the 50 cent one i was like yeah i mean he's rich and he doesn't really give a fuck about anybody but himself we kind of always knew that i believe with 50 also though is he needs to pretend he's he makes 400 000 a year to keep that myth alive like i would be like, because I don't believe he's making that. I don't think he's in that tax bracket anymore. I mean, not above board. He had all that bankruptcy shit. He was hiding money.

He was sliding money around to avoid paying things. So if he's not an up and up taxpayer is what I mean to say. I'm like, if you are, you're not paying taxes anyway. So I don't know what this is about aside to be like, oh, $400,000. Yeah, because that's me. People who make $400, that is me 50 cent uh curtis jackson 50 aka ferrari uh break it down so yeah there's a but yeah i'm curious maybe we will find out that little pump got the uh got the bag just absolutely i mean whatever He didn't really have a career, but good for him. I was listening to an episode of Radio Lab over the weekend, which is a podcast that's not as good as this one. And they did a story where these like different people with a bunch of different experience in Washington gamed out like what will happen on election night assuming that trump does the thing that we all know he's going to do and like tries to invalidate votes and shit and it's bad like it's

trump discredits the mail-in votes quickly and you know then republicans get behind him and we're already seeing he has the police behind him you're seeing have you seen those videos of like the nypd like rolling through flatbush being like trump 2020 yeah um yeah i don't know i i could see i think if if it's not the 35 chance that 538 is giving of biden winning in a landslide i think we're gonna see some unprecedented shit yeah i'm excited i think that's what oh that's why a lot of the unions have been already talking about how they'd they'd have to do some kind of general strike if if that's where trump is taking it like to go that route and trying to organize labor as much as possible to have some kind of response but

i think that's why this is like the most fucking fraught next couple days because we're all just like we're watching the car crash in slow motion and we're like oh shit is they're about to crash in about six days uh but we just don't know what the fuck is going to happen if it's going to be like some holy shit stuff or something that i don't know but but the democrats have no like we all know what's gonna happen they i think all know what's gonna happen like supposedly they've been lawyering the fuck out of like all the different swing states so like if they're caught by surprise by any of this shit like i i don't know what to tell you i wouldn't be surprised either though because i feel like the whole platform is built around people

so insulated from any existential threat that they don't they don't have the imagination to look at how bad it can get because they clearly don't have that same concern for like working people or marginalized people lgbtq people like you know it's just like yeah just keeping this narrow thing like oh that could happen but come on now we're we have money and we're white like this is this is how shit works uh but i but you know there is a there are definitely lawyers who are getting engaged but i'm that's why i'm like just let's just get to this part already i know i'm ready for it i don't know what's the next shit yeah my parents my parents fled us you know civil war bullshit ass country i mean the country is

great but you know right this is these are my roots bitch let's see what goes that goes down let's be ready for that shit it's not it's history history repeating itself really yeah not in it maybe maybe not in this country but what we've done to other countries you know where american people are finally experiencing it i think it's i mean i hate to say i think it's good but we've we've fucked over so many other countries that it was inevitable to land here this bullshit was inevitable so including el salvador you know what i mean so yeah so i'm like let's let's fucking let's get this right over with yeah it is weird yeah i think it for one thing if you know if it is a landslide because you know you see all these numbers about how there are, in certain states, more early votes have just been cast than ever before.

And in some cases, for all the votes Trump got in 2016 have already been cast in early ballots in certain states. Maybe that little shock to the system has hit a bunch of voters if it plays out in a landslide way where they they got a taste of some authoritarian bullshit and it's a blot or some people were like hey we could lock this thing up for uh white supremacy yeah yeah i feel like that the motivation is kind of equal you never know sides you never know that's the thing the anti-trump motivation is strong but like man those rallies are terrifying all those just feral but there is a lot of people posting on social media that their republican family members are voting biden i mean and that which is why they our democratic party picked him you know because

that that was the safety net that we needed unfortunately i hate to say that but that's what what's that's what that extra push was from right it's like we gotta we gotta cinch these undecided trump voters you know because an undecided trump voter is either really into trump or not i mean that's all that's all it is it's like how much do they care about their own money and how much do they care about what the hell is going on around them right yeah yeah the undecided as i say are either coward racists or horrifyingly disengaged from reality exactly but i think it's more on the on the disengaged side than the horribly racist because horribly racist people are they're pro trump that's it they're picking him i don't think we

have a lot of undecided horribly racist people yeah yeah some people are like not racist enough i mean they're just like, I do like my housekeeper. I do like my housekeeper. I'll go for Biden this time. Right, right. Let's talk Borat, guys. We saw Borat over the weekend.

I really liked it. Borat, spoilers? Should we warn people if they haven't watched it? Yeah, yeah, we should. We should. Borat, spoilers. Again, if they haven't watched it? Yeah, yeah, we should, we should. Borat spoilers. Again, if you don't like those boys, boys, boys, skip ahead 14 minutes. Boilers? We call them boilers.

Boilers. If you don't like any boils on your neck popping up, then skip ahead. I liked this way better than the first one. I don't even remember the first one. It's so long ago. It's so long ago. I was like, I tweeted like, why didn't anybody warn me about the dicks

that are in Borat 2? And everybody was like, you don't remember the first one? I was like, no. I don't. Yeah. I don't know. This had some... I think I went into this with lower expectations. The first one was like peak Ali G show on HBO

and I was just like you know expecting it to be as funny as that and i don't think it was but this yeah is it the time is it the context that makes it a little less like you know because it's easy to be like damn man some american people are fucking ignorant huh yeah thanks borat and they're like oh my god they're fucking everywhere and they're they are this fucking racist or just willing to do anything the one thing the biggest observation i realized in watching this is that uh certain american people they will abide anything if they are about to make money yep yeah you know. You know what I mean? Every moment. Cake shop.

Cake shop. Plastic surgeon. Yeah. If you're about to secure a fucking bag, they're like, yeah, yeah, what do you want me to say? Jews will not replace us on the cake, and I'll do this shit with a smile.

They're like, you want to put your daughter in a cage? I will do this shit with a smile, and I get there is maybe some discomfort, but I noticed, and this is probably by design too, but the only person who wasn't with the bullshit was the black woman of course yeah there was no accident there yeah when

i'm like damn like this is really whether that is just because that's how it shook out or how it naturally happened i'm like this is you see time after time a business owner being like yeah yeah yeah no problem no problem i don't care how awful this shit is but it's not they don't see it as awful they're like oh he's doing entertainment we're doing entertainment this is entertainment saying the jews will not replace us this is so funny right i don't know he's telling me it's funny i don't really watch comedy i mean that's what that attitude is yeah right uh yeah i was but over and over there were I was surprised at how many scenes like I cringed nearly out of my skin I did too but that was because I was watching it with my mom wait what is the worst one to watch with your mom I don't even remember I mean

we definitely looked at each other like ah at the debutante ball like oh my god that was yeah i watched it with um my wife in my wave well good wow great restraint right there i know it was hard i pulled back from it uh but debutante ball and the uh plastic surgeon were both times where she like made me google to like make sure that this wasn't she was like i can't believe that this is real like there's no way that's so funny you know what the other thing was was the the pastor i think he's going to hell first of all right that shit oh was like a life clinic yes but he was a pastor at the at the abortion clinic yes yeah yeah i think that was where me and my mom were like this is really weird like this is a freaking crime and he's

being like well we're here now let's talk right let's forget about the incest yeah just i just not just incest the rape let's forget about the rape yeah yes let's talk about how we want this rape baby to live it was that me and my mom were just like uh that was our yeah and then the period thing yeah for sure because we were like there were there was some like apolitical like the the haircut where you showed the guy the hair every time he cut it did you see he was putting in his pocket it was like you were like it was just slightly off camera that you're just like i mean i was like wait we're putting them shits yeah the first couple i thought he threw away and then it was like no you're you have a little pocket for that yeah it's almost

like guys well it's almost like what i was gonna say like was it was he consenting to the length he was cutting or he's almost asking is it okay if i keep this like you know what i mean that's what was so wild about it it was it was so goofy it was like genuinely funny and just it was just funny period it's just like pure yeah purely funny it was so good and the man was so trusting yeah he's like uh-huh and he like rubbing on his dick a little bit that was i was like oh my gosh this is this is so weird so weird so i want to ask you guys, how much do you think, because it was obviously shot during Corona, the early part of Corona,

how much of it was written to that? And how much of it was just, because it's like the end has to do with coronavirus. So did they just were like, let's just fucking go explore this semi-written script. Yeah, I think they must have had a different ending and then rewrote the whole thing.

But the fact like I didn't think the Pence thing was like the CPAC thing was, I don't know, like him dressing up as Trump as like a fat version of Trump, just felt kind of dumb.

I don't know. Making fun of Trump's appearance at this point just feels stupid to me and insufficient, unless I'm doing it. But the fact that they caught Pence being there are only a couple of cases in the US,

that they caught that moment was so wild. It was beautiful. And his just posture and general presence is just like a fucking empty suit who just looks like a politician, was just so palpable. I mean, he couldn't even have an opinion on what he was seeing

because he didn't know what he was seeing and he still couldn't put his foot down. Like, come on, guys, this is you see what we have to deal with. Like, he couldn't even say that. He couldn't even just be like, look at these people. This is what we deal with. This is this is what we are working against. Like, he couldn't even be diplomatic in that sense.

That's true. We've talked before about the time when he was at that Trump, Nancyancy pelosi chuck schumer meeting where he just like closed his eyes to try and teleport out in this instance he seemed like he just like short circuited like a robot and like froze as like the borat thing was happening he didn't like really he wasn't able to like emote or say anything he couldn't muster up a reaction at all which i found a little i mean greatly off-putting because it's like there's obviously something happening that i mean it could be i guess for me it's like dude what if that was like a terrorist that broke into the event like you don't know how to just

react to that as a human being like oh shit what's going on are we cool is everything safe not you know why it's because he had uh a homegirl over his shoulder, and because a woman's posterior was in view, he had to determine whether or not a mother will whoop his ass for even gazing upon the yeeks of this woman. He was concentrating on getting rid of his boner. He was like, is my shot collar going to go off? Yeah, that's funny.

That was funny. The daughter was so good and for being like totally unknown like that the fact that she just like is not somebody who's been in anything before and then the fact that like they're able to

get away like get out of these things and get people to sign off on them are like magic tricks I don't I still don't know i mean i i guess i i there's you know how many actors that are unknown so many improv actors are failing in their careers but then they're pretty funny yeah there's a lot of those people the c-pack thing was also a good like google it to be like that couldn't have happened right and then like you find the thing where it's like guy dressed as trump carries woman yeah mike pence speech right oh man the the the debutante

ball thing had me so fucked up because that first that one moment where uh he asked the other father he's like hey how much do you think my daughter oh my god god bless the dude straight up said five hundred dollars but yeah shout out to his daughter god bless that little- The dude straight up said $500. God bless that girl. Shout out to his daughter. God bless that girl. That's fucking disgusting. That's fucking disgusting, dad. Fuck is wrong. It was purely like, I was like, thank God.

That was the one straight person. The straight character in the entire movie who was like, what the fuck? That along with the black woman who was like, first of all, yes, I've touched my vagina and I am still here, honey't your father's a fucking liar um yeah that scene really got me too because i went i remember i've went to a debutante ball once this girl i was dating in high school went when i was like what the fuck is this i'd never been before but i was just so white girl you got a history with it okay go ahead yeah you know but i came in there high as a fuck and i remember they couldn't tell because you got those eyes yeah exactly and they're all race

they're all racist and exactly and they're like wow that's i like that she's uh doing international dating yeah exactly so i remember uh just how awkward those how stiff those things are and especially for me that's like the most like sort of well-to-do white person space like i had been to to that point and just like what what is the purpose of this like how much are you spending to do this and what is it for like what do you get at the end like it's the national charity league or some shit i'm like what the fuck is this yeah it honestly feels like you're like watching some sort of like other culture it's just like so yeah it feels like you're watching some sort of other culture. It's just so... Yeah, it feels like a sociological thing where it's like,

you could have a natural geographic narrator over the top of it, and it would make sense to me. It's so weird. It's like the insecure father parades around his daughter. Right. And he wishes he could fuck, and he can't, so he has to get her ready for the next man to fuck for the next person but then we'll have very stringent guidelines as to who that male will be right really awful it's a very feminist movie though yeah yeah yeah i mean

that's that's part of including that is like this the feminist concepts and and how men have to learn to change for their their daughters and some of them don't and some of them do you know yeah yeah he has he was bunkering down with who are like suddenly they're like no man hold on now women are they're equal yeah democrats aren't are evil and they're not real they don't deserve rats but women are equal but also hillary clinton does drink adrenochrome out of scared children i mean i heard that's the other funny thing it's been said that's the other funny thing about a lot of these people is that they're so ignorant but they're they're like slowly progressing like

they're slowly changing their minds on certain very specific thing and then when that dude was like that's a conspiracy theory dude you can't read this, that's a conspiracy theory, dude. You can't read this book. It's a conspiracy theory. My fucking jaw dropped. Like, how does he recognize that this book is terrible? But because it's like shitting on women, but they, they, everything else that they believed was fine. It was bonkers. Or those guardrails aren't up. Like when an attack is made on like any woman in general, it's like, it doesn't kick in like, well, hold on, hold on now.

It's only when someone very narrowly is like men better than women women have little brain that's what i mean like well hold on we're past that yeah right we judge these bitches as individuals you got to get on this new shit bull rat which is these bitches are demons yeah that's what we're on right now if you get to demons are not women you have to get to no one before you decide to take away their rights. That's what he was trying to say. That's what feminism is to them. What did y'all think of the Giuliani interview?

Oh my God. So wild. So wild. You knew it was coming too. The way he was, and you knew she was definitely flirting with him just to see what what

comes back from him and he answered in kind yeah very like you're like oh you want to raise this okay i'm ready uh-huh yeah okay let me grab both of your hands now yeah let me give you that his smile that he does and he's like no yeah it's gonna be okay he looked like that window licker video like it looks like if somebody was like, do you have dentures? And he was confirming, yes, I do. Just showing them all the way to the top. The thing that Megan Kelly over the weekend was like,

this is a hit job. He was tucking in his shirt. He was laying on the bed under a person who was supposed to be a journalist who he had just met and was tucking in his shirt over and over again. Like he might have been talking in his shirt, but there was a second motive to that tugging in the shirt, I believe. I mean, unless he was wrapping the bottom of his shirt around his dick. Right. I don't think he was the way that we all tuck in our shirts.

Yeah, I was going to say that classic command move. You know, be like, well, hold on now. You're having an interview now with a journalist. Wrap your shirt tails around your penis. It's the, I don't know. I think he was either doing that or he was doing the waistband tuck because he didn't want to have the wild boner. Right.

No, I mean, look. My guess would be he had like one of those pump things. You can theorize all you want, but the fact that he was laying down fucked all of that up. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like you can't say anything other than like,

this fool was laying on his back with the girl he just met and they both are supposedly drinking. Right. It's just, ooh, it's all bad. All very bad. Had Louis C.K. vibes. Very good. I thought the movie was good. It very bad. Had Louis C.K. vibes. Very good.

I thought the movie was good. It was good. It was great. Awesome. All right. We'll get to Shitty Merchandise War another day. Marcella, it's been wonderful

as always having you. Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me at Marcella Comedy. I'm also going to be on Sarah Cooper's Netflix special, Everything's Fine, that airs today. find you and follow you um you can find me at marcella comedy i'm also going to be on sarah cooper's netflix special everything's fine uh that airs today so stream that shit i'm excited i had a cute little role cute little couple scenes um so check me out sharing a scene with helen maron and

sarah cooper and eddie pepitone it's really awesome oh wow oh speaking of which we should not we should not uh skip over the fact that bill fact that Billy Wayne Davis is in Borat too. Oh yeah. A couple of seconds, but that's dope that you're in Sarah Cooper's special. Is it? Well, I guess we can.

Yeah. Stream it. You fucking idiot. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? I, uh, Tom? What's his name? Tom Thacker. I think that's how you pronounce his last name. He tweeted, Tom A. Thacker is his handle.

Pretty pissed off because last night I went to see a ventriloquist and he was wearing a mask the whole show. He just kept saying, trust me, I'm doing it. And you know what? Shireen Yunusus who has a great podcast with our Anna Hosnia she had a really funny tweet I couldn't find it

but it's like it was like a couple weeks ago where she's like when one poor closes another poor opens I've been thinking about it all like every day

it's really funny that is really good Shireen's so funny Shiro Hero I think is her Twitter handle Shiro Hero Miles where can people her Twitter handle. Shiro Hero. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?

You can find me on Twitter and Instagram, at Miles of Grey. And I haven't really been just, I don't know. I haven't been on social media. Damn, you haven't? I don't know. Why? Nah, because I'm throttling off. That shit gets me too anxious.

And it's not, like and i say this all the time i put way too much energy like like emotional energy interacting with social media than i need to when i could just be like giving myself positivity and you know keeping keeping my shit together so i can bring people the fucking show every day there you go there you go i get plenty of news the normal way that I don't need to then amplify it with doom scrolling and shit like that because I just got hooked on the doom scroll. It was too much.

Good for you. I don't really have much going on in the way of anything there, but I will say this because I just saw this and this is funny. This is from past guests. Cody Zegler at Yeferzig. He he tweeted 34 is googling will this cause acid reflux before eating a piece of food uh yeah it's a fine line when you when you

go from like just mentally being like damn everybody's older than me like what's like look at all these old people to suddenly like the fuck is what all these kids come from yeah what's wrong with these kids, and it happens in a day where suddenly you're like, everyone's old to then suddenly you're like, no, everybody's young now.

I don't know what the fuck these kids are on. That's also why I don't understand, like, especially men who date younger women. I'm like, how do you do it? Like,

don't you get annoyed? Like, isn't that annoying? Just for that sake. They're like, no, but if I'm with someone younger, I can actively avoid

my own mortality and regress and fuck at the same time you will be tired Jack where can we find you what's tweet you've been Marcelo that's so nice of you to ask I'm at Jack underscore O'Brien

on Twitter a couple tweets I've been enjoying since you asked Gremlin-y Nusboo Emily Nusbaum, tweeted the headline, Infection of Pensades Raises New Questions About Trump's Virus Response. And she said, I had no idea that was the plural for a group of pensades. Infection of pensades. And then Josh Gondelman tweeted, You have to hand it to Jerry Kushner

because that's the only way he's ever achieved or accomplished anything in his life. I saw that one too. I almost included it. I had a feeling. I had a feeling. That was right. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.

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This is just a remix of a Lil Wayne track. I feel like dying, but the beat was flipped by Flying Lotus. And, you know, sometimes we feel like dying, but, you know, in a good way. That we're just trying to shed our old forms. But this beat is so good. It's not on Spotify. You can only get this shit on YouTube or SoundCloud. But it's the Flying Lotus remix of I Feel Like Dying.

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