The Daily Zeitgeist - Superb Owl Sundae 2/12: Super Bowl Ads, Trump, Biden, RFK Jr., Temu

Episode Date: February 12, 2024

In this edition of Superb Owl Sundae, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, what the ol' Prezzie Candies were up to over the weekend, the Super Bowl (and all those delicious ads!) and much... more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese
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Starting point is 00:01:28 or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello. Froggy. Leave it. Leave it. Hello the internet and welcome to this week trend. Super Bowl Monday. Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:01:43 Sunday hangover episode. Yeah. I could care less about the team struggling. Which team? I guess the 49ers. Yeah, right. Because they lose. They lose. I'm Jack. That's Miles. This is the episode where we tell you everything
Starting point is 00:02:00 that was trending over the weekend. What's going on with us? All that fun stuff. The Super Bowl was last night. I am staying prayed up. That's all I learned. That's all I took away. Mark Wahlberg told me to stay prayed up. You got to stay prayed up, obviously.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Stay prayed up. Hey, hey. Stay prayed up, bro. Stay prayed up, bro. That's how me and my friends say goodbye to each other anyways so it's cool that he's like bringing it to a mass audience right so man say hi to your kids man say hi to your mother for me man say hi to your mother say hi to your mother stay prayed up right bro all right bro big night for boston big night for boston holy shit
Starting point is 00:02:41 you know the patriots may not be in a super Bowl for a long time, but the city of Boston. Well represented. Wonderful culture. Well represented in the advertisements. Yes. Miles, you are not in Los Angeles. No, I'm in ATL Georgia. And it's, you know, What do they do for you?
Starting point is 00:03:05 It's raining like fucking LA. I got on the plane. I'm like, yeah, it'd be good to go to a different place. Exact same weather. You might be the problem, man. It's clear back here now. Man, also the studios here are so nice. In Atlanta, yeah. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:03:21 Oh my god. Oh, I was... He didn't play that, did he? Yeah, he did. It was just for a brief. Dude. It was like a second. His catalog is so dense, he could only do like one bar of a song as like a transitional
Starting point is 00:03:35 line. Yeah. I mean, are we going to talk about the halftime show? We'll get to that when we talk about the Super Bowl. I'm sure. We'll get to the halftime show. We can do it. We can do it.
Starting point is 00:03:41 But I am Jack. That's Miles. I think I already said that. We'll get to the halftime show. We can do it again. But I am Jack. That's Miles. I think I already said that. Before we get to what was trending over the weekend,
Starting point is 00:03:48 we do like to tell you what's going on with us with a little overrated, underrated. Yes. You want to kick us off with something, Miles, you think is underrated? Underrated mid-toilet paper. Just that nice mid-level toilet paper you the fancy shit sucks too fancy like the overly quilted overly quilted you're dealing with i'm sorry but you're gonna be picking bits
Starting point is 00:04:17 out of your butt you know what i mean it falls apart and here's the because on the spectrum of toilet papers on the low end you have i don't give a i don't give a fuck about my orifices and the damage i'll do with this rough what they call paper toilet paper yeah it's like tracing paper at the lowest end yeah exactly yeah it feels like most in common with like yeah that rice paper right or like a dental bib that they they pin on you when you go for a teeth cleaning or they're all in the same family they get it all from the same supplier just rough rough and then on the other side of it you also have like when it's too soft the softness is over emphasized
Starting point is 00:04:58 and you actually have something that is there the structural integrity is compromised the second it interacts with any kind of moisture so as i as i as I sit here and think about it, I was in the hotel room. The hotel room I was in was on concrete paper tier almost to mid-level tier, which I respect. But you know, also when you use a bidet, the toilet paper is typically just there for a little dabbing, for a little drying. So it doesn't always matter. I'm just saying we need to respect let's really stop buying the super expensive shit when it's like
Starting point is 00:05:31 wiping your ass with a pillow. You're just encouraging them, you guys. I don't need to wipe my ass with newspaper. Anymore? I'm past that. And I'm past wiping my ass on pillows. It was a fun prank in junior high. But with the pink eye outbreak, I realized it's a bad thing. And that horrible outbreak of pink eye that you caused was oof.
Starting point is 00:05:53 They say we lost our flag football championship game because of me. Quarterback didn't see. Eyes swollen shut. Oh, man. It's just poor Ian. Like the Homer Simpson meme. Quarterback Ian, his eyes were just swollen shut oh no oh my god um yeah i had a i just i'm very thankful for the for the advent of the bidet era of my life i'm
Starting point is 00:06:18 living the bidet era um i just had a a day over the weekend where i was away from my home for a long period of time and my yeah i was just missing it i was i was begging for the bidet you know just had to get back and spray my shit off you know it's a level of i'm sorry sorry for listeners anyone who didn't want to hear that but that's just the way it is i'm just being honest um mine rated so i gotta like low power mode i just i i'm sure i'm missing something here but like the low power mode on iphones do you i just like use that whenever i think to turn it on and i've never noticed a difference in the phone like how my phone functions i'm also stupid so i'm you know i'm putting the the question out into the ether like
Starting point is 00:07:14 what is what why wouldn't you just always have low power mode on and just have longer battery life at all times like there's nothing that prevents you from having it like turning it on at 90 and just leaving it there wow oh because you're doing the the kramer and newman thing where they're trying to see how far they could go on that one push it man yeah like could i could i get two days of usage from a single charge oh probably not but you know yeah um i've i've had to do it you know when traveling I've had to do that but I just I don't I don't understand
Starting point is 00:07:50 what the I've never been like man low power mode is really fucking me here right right right you don't have someone go well there's your problem you got our low power mode all the time I also I should say I also leave my flashlight on at all
Starting point is 00:08:05 times yeah yeah i know honey i know i know sorry i shouldn't be on the phone in the movie theater i'll be i'll call you right back after yeah yeah we're taking the second act yeah yeah i just love the idea i mean you see that i've caught, you know, people with the flashlight on. Yeah. They forget. I remember one time, I think my mom had it on like all day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:32 And I remember like, cause I was with her all day and I remember help. Like we were looking for something in the morning and I remember she turned it on. And then like in the middle of the day, I was like, you still got your flashlight. Okay, miss. Never know. You never know when you're going to need that. I think the one thing that could only be perceivable as i do a little research is if you have like the like a newer pro motion display on your phone then it just limits the display refresh rate to a paltry
Starting point is 00:08:54 60 frames per second yeah maybe yeah and i wonder if it's like actually diminishing the quality of pictures i'm taking while it's on low low power i mean i'd imagine the photo sensors are like work at the same but i have a nokia 3310 um so that's also people should take that into account when i'm right in here right right okay all right what is uh what's something you think is overrated miles i keep saying this but oh so first of all update i was traveling i went to go see how much checks mix cost at the hudson news at lax 499 lax what the fuck shout out to lax what in the fuck it was only like a dollar more than it was in my rite aid because i remember i went to rite aid earlier this week i said let me just let me just just for a baseline see what the
Starting point is 00:09:43 checks mix is fake news fake fake news i mean i think it's down with this check mix bullshit he's didn't he didn't he say something about he's like tired of the shrinkflation crap that the the snack companies are doing anyway um but i'm always thinking about food because i love food i'm always hungry and i love to eat and i was just thinking that like, I talked about this when I got back from Japan too, that like we just American food culture is just fucked up. Like the food itself is great. We have a lot of great food that has come out of the United States and it's
Starting point is 00:10:16 not about food, but capitalism has distorted our underlying beliefs around food. And I like, again, I talk about this a lot, but if you eat outside of your house, that's a luxury. And we are denied opportunities to socialize with friends and family. If you go out or something, maybe just get like one bite to eat
Starting point is 00:10:35 without it being a financially fucking tense situation most of the time. So you're saying that like in other countries, it's not eating outside of your house is not a luxury. It's like kind of more par for the course. There are places we can be like, oh, this place is cheap. Like we can go and at least we can sit down.
Starting point is 00:10:52 We can have a drink if we want. We have a little bite to eat and it's not like just, you know, exorbitant prices. But really, I say this because I thought of something in my hotel room late at night as I was trying to fall asleep
Starting point is 00:11:04 is we need to nationalize the sandwich and we need what we need is to set a standard for what a sandwich can cost and I'm not talking like a hoagie those those are more bells and whistles I'm talking about your standard issue two pieces of sliced bread with something in between sandwich. Okay. We need to find a way that we say, we cannot go over a certain price for this thing. There's no need for it. And also we can help people.
Starting point is 00:11:36 I'm saying 75 cents seems like a fair price. Like if you just had 75 cents. A sandwich of any sort? Or that's like, what are we talking fucking call it i don't know a fucking egg salad a turkey sandwich ham and cheese cheese uh veggie whatever but like there has to be a there has to be like a floor and that we are a ceiling and a floor that is set in a way that we're like we don't go over this we this is part of the social contract that a sandwich that's simple can be accessible to anybody because fast food is inaccessible.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I just like, I'm just thinking about all this stuff. Like in, like in Japan, I always use this example. Like ramen is a working class food. It's accessible to everyone. That's why I like, I have trouble eating out, having ramen in LA, because I'm like, I can't wrap my head around a fucking $18 bowl of this shit. There, it's understood.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Don't start gouging people for this. This is a staple thing that we agree on costs a certain amount. Can I make a request? Yes. Can we just take ramen as our national baseline food instead of a wonder bread sandwich that is a very american thought um and yeah you know what i like your thinking i don't like because i like there's better yeah i like there's way better man or like a burrito um yeah something that i can buy at 7-eleven or the national
Starting point is 00:13:09 sandwich dispensary yeah um and then take home and microwave you know without it the sandwiches the kind of low price point sandwiches uh usually get fucked up at some point i understand that but but yeah it's all to say that there's a way to get sustenance that doesn't cost too much money and that's america's fault i'm gonna support you for president thank you because like in asia other parts of the world the seasoning part is already understood and it's a little bit delayed so we can't we don't want to jump over and be like well what about the burrito? Because they know that tastes good. We have to accept our lot as Americans. This is our cheap food, and we do not go over a certain price for it.
Starting point is 00:13:52 So anybody in a pinch, whatever, you can at least eat something. I just think it would have much, I don't know, I think it would just be a net positive for our society. net positive for our society yeah i'm just envisioning a lot of like grilled chicken breast on white bread with a slice of cheese and a piece of wet lettuce kind of let's making the whole thing you know what i mean yeah i get that i think we can think a little bit bigger you know if everything is so mass produced right even if we're like pimento cheese, I'm saying that because I'm in Atlanta and I'm surrounded by it. And my blood type is slowly turning into pimento cheese. But like in mass, you can find a way and keep your margins low.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Like the whole thing is, this is not going to be a great business model. No. Yeah, exactly. But having food that people can afford is a bigger issue. And I think that's where, I don't know. That's what I'm saying. We need to nationalize and be like,
Starting point is 00:14:47 okay, you know what? We love your pimento cheese. Some of this is going to like the federal fund for our, our nationalized sandwiches. That's just, I'm realistic. If it's not a good business model,
Starting point is 00:14:56 it's unrealistic. I know that's what's so fucked up. You're a child. If you don't, if it's not a business model, if you can't explain to me how you're going to get this thing capitalized, bro, how are you going gonna get this thing capitalized bro how you're gonna get uh some vc funding exactly some angel investors excited or on the right they're like this is big government coming for you and and making us eat their prison food or whatever i'm like no well this is already a prison anyway thanks for that realization but we
Starting point is 00:15:22 also need to we just have to have some level that we agree because food is so ridiculous, man. It's just absurd. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll do my over, which is related to some news stories.
Starting point is 00:15:37 So we'll get into the news when we come back. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jimei Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions.
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Starting point is 00:17:28 you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:18:00 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. Oh, we are. And so my overrated is news stories that are called anytime you hear this construction the real world insert movie the real world home alone or something the real world gone girl the real world orphan so if you're seeing that construction be very wary i've talked about my you know i the power of movies that I think movies like channel our, uh, national, like unconscious
Starting point is 00:19:27 and you know, the ones that hit are expressing something that like we need expressed as a culture. Right. And sometimes it's so powerful that they, like the culture will manifest an actual real version of that. an actual real version of that like i i've always said that i think the dommer thing might have come about because like he was discovered during the uh sounds of the lambs like mania like after that movie became a huge hit they discovered dommer He has all these bodies in his house and his freezer. And he's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I was eating them. Um, I don't, I don't know that he was, I think like he
Starting point is 00:20:11 met the moment, the, the like, and the, and the police obviously like found that compelling and, you know, got on a bunch of talk shows because they, you know know that matched what the people wanted right and i ignored that one victim that stumbled out of his house because i don't know he seemed like he had it under control right exactly so um that but there are these two stories that are kind of like uh making a lot of waves in the true crime world right now that uh are uh examples of this so there's the natalia grace story you know about this yeah i've heard about this folks yeah i've seen this folks you've seen this you heard about this did you watch both seasons i haven't watched either documentary but i just became aware of them and i'm this is exactly, exactly what I'm always talking about.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Right, right, right. This couple adopted a child with dwarfism from Ukraine and then convinced themselves and a judge and a bunch of true crime podcasters and mainstream media outlets that she was actually an adult with dwarfism posing as a child i remember we talked about this on the show like years ago when it first came out when like it was sort of like what's going on like these people are claiming that she was like saying like i'm gonna cut your throat and like stood over me with a knife while i was sleeping yes which are
Starting point is 00:21:40 like scenes from the movie orphan right and the plot the premise is the same plot as the movie spoiler alert for the movie orphan the twist for that is that the child ends up being like old so they have since you know they they convinced a judge that she was an adult she was legally like her birthday was legally changed yeah made an adult and then the family just like dropped her in an apartment to fend for herself like she was a child yeah they so they've they've done like the testing and like all the dna and everything and they're like no she's the age she said she was you may yeah spoiler alert she got her age changed back she did she got her legally was able to get her age changed back such a wild story and it's just the power of people you know
Starting point is 00:22:33 the movies hit on this premise that people are like oh shit could you imagine it's weird though too because like some people's even perception of her in their firsthand experiences with her were tinged by this idea that she may be older or like when she lived in that apartment, uh, like in the, in the documentary series, they talked to the neighbors and they're like, she was always like so obsessed. It was kind of weird. She'd always be like, when are you going to be home? Or like when we'd get home, they would come out and like knock on our door and like, see what we were up to.
Starting point is 00:23:04 And it's like, there was really no boundaries. and like part of that was sort of you could say they were people were saying that from this perspective like kind of creepy but then there's a version too like this wasn't a this was a child who didn't know anybody so imagine little circumstance yeah imagine a child who's like hey what are you guys doing oh what can you can i do stuff that's what probably was fucking happening rather than being like, hey, where the fuck were you? You know what I mean? It's just, yeah, this, this, the story gets, I guess, even deeper because she was adopted by this other family now. And the cliffhanger at the end of the second season, there's a spoiler alert if you're watching it and you're not caught up but they seem to cast doubt over how like if
Starting point is 00:23:47 she is sort of like always this kind person or if she's a little more aggressive or if there's just another family that was in over their skis and we're like something's wrong with her yeah there's also this popular crime documentary american nightmare i think it's called, about a woman who was abducted, her boyfriend reported her missing after he said he was drugged, and then the police began to suspect him, and then she returned alive three days later,
Starting point is 00:24:16 and the police and the media immediately were like, dude, looks like Gone Girl to me. You see that movie Gone Girl that's out in theaters? That's exactly what it is. No thought needed here. So they just assumed that it was a Gone Girl situation. She had
Starting point is 00:24:31 faked her own abduction and there was a real serial sexual predator who was out there and kept on doing it and had been doing it for years but Gone Girl had just come out so that's what the police went with um and it's just it's another like i mean true crime is basically like
Starting point is 00:24:55 the true crime obsession is america waking up to the reality that the police are like so bad at their jobs yeah truly and this is no exception there's like they're they're this uh serial predator who was responsible for the um abduction had been doing shit like stalking students for years in a different community and like the police were dismissive of them and like the students caught him like figured out who he was like that he was um had a military background he was a lawyer like all these different things and the police just were like yeah well that's true you crazy kids yeah i mean you go back to be a student detectives like what do we got here oh yeah she disappeared came back a few days later i've seen this a hundred times it's a gone girl situation wait you've seen it a hundred times from your experience as a detective now i've seen the
Starting point is 00:25:56 movie gone girl a hundred like a hundred times it's really good it's really out there anyway this is like exactly like that so we should just go with that. Yeah. Thanks, Detective. Anyways, very, I don't know. There's a real attraction to bullshit that is, you know, people imagine in movies. If a movie says it, if you see it in a movie and then the police say it happened,
Starting point is 00:26:23 I would be very highly suspicious yeah just like wilder than like someone at a podium like at a police press conference like yeah it's an open and shut case of the lovely bones what you haven't seen lovely bones on our hands we got a real i am sam type thing going on here. What? What? What do you mean? I, did you kind of look like Sam? Yes. Sorry. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Sorry. Got that messed up. Got that messed up. You thought it was the Sean Penn? Yeah. Wait, wait. Yeah. That's what I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:26:56 What's summer? Sam? Not familiar. Um, all right. Uh, we're going to check in with our two presidential candidates from the weekend. Trump, you know, continued to impotently rage at the mere concept that Taylor Swift would
Starting point is 00:27:12 endorse Joe Biden over the weekend, you know, just revealing where the anger of his followers, his supporters comes from the way they're all mad at Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift. And he is not making it easy for them to hide where that anger is coming from because he's just having a temper tantrum about how she should like him more in public. Master with all the conspiracies. He's like,
Starting point is 00:27:42 she should love me. But why, why? I think this is the best part is that he actually was like, she should actually like me better than Joe Biden. Because I was responsible for the Music Modernization Act of 2018. Oh. There's no way
Starting point is 00:27:56 she should endorse crooked Joe Biden, the worst and most corrupt president in the history of our country, and be disloyal to the man who made her so much money. The man who made her so much money travis even though he may be a liberal and probably can't stand me exclamation point that was that detail like adding that at the end probably hates me so but i like i like her big tight end boyfriend even though he may hate
Starting point is 00:28:27 me and think i'm just probably a loser i mean we know he's impressed by big guys with muscles yeah oh yeah yeah it looks like an oak tree who's smuggling christmas hams in all the right places the way he was the way he was scream singing viva las vegas from the podium when he raised that trophy. It was, we were lost. We were lost folks. We were completely lost in his voice, but yeah, he, uh,
Starting point is 00:28:51 the, you know, he loves a bit of MMA. So the music modernization act, and I guess maybe falls into that, but yeah, it's like, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Did you conceive the bill? Did you say, you know what? As president, we need to address how royalties are paid on streaming services or whatever that sounds like him that sounds like that's true donald trump yeah you're right actually what am i saying yeah responsible just uh legislation based um now according to the key attorneys behind the m, his comments were funny because he quote,
Starting point is 00:29:25 did nothing on air legislation except sign it. Um, and she also suggested he quote, doesn't even know what the music modernization act does fair adding that someone should ask him what the bill actually accomplished. Uh, yeah, I'm sure if someone said Trump,
Starting point is 00:29:40 uh, you know, can you tell us about the MMA? He'd start talking about UFC. Oh, for sure. There's no way. There's no way you could just lob that MMA? He'd start talking about UFC. Oh, for sure. There's no way you could just lob that. And he goes, I got this. Dana White,
Starting point is 00:29:52 really good friend, love MMA. I feel like he treats the things that he signed during his presidency like their memorabilia. He doesn't know anything about it. He just collects cool things. He's a room full of bills that he signed pretty cool life that's you see that one profile the new yorker profile of
Starting point is 00:30:10 trump from like the early 2000s where they're just like following him around and he's just showing them like boxing gloves signed i don't show and tell by hollyfield being like it's a pretty cool life eh pretty cool pretty cool yeah and it's and i'm glad that he's like i'm the reason she made all the money it's because the way the publishing worked for streaming platforms is the reason taylor swift made so much money not because prior to that just for music was so popular but yes but yes that will convince her to say bow to the man that gave you all your precious little pennies um he also proudly stated that he would encourage russia to attack any nato members that fell behind in its payment during a rally leading nato's chief to suggest that those comments undermine all air security, put American and European soldiers at increased risk.
Starting point is 00:31:06 That doesn't really have anything to do with Taylor Swift. So I wasn't, I don't really get it, so to speak. Not sure what that's all about. That's the one part he told the truth about. And I'll put all of his brain power towards that statement. That seems a little more realistic.
Starting point is 00:31:22 It does feel like the Biden campaign should just be running on. He's more likely to start world war three. He like seems to want to start world war three. Yeah. Um, democracy might not know the difference between Mexico and Egypt, but yeah, we'll start world war three.
Starting point is 00:31:39 American democracy, democracy, democracy is too amorphous of a concept for the regular voter but if you're like you want to get conscripted in world war three yeah exactly then maybe be like wait what how um but again that's just cynical politics yeah it's like biden's whole thing should just be pointing at trump yeah it really should unfortunately i know because what's he gonna do be like i can't get countries right in my mind yeah so that that did happen just to like check in on the other side so he started out so strong he had the there is uh this special uh council
Starting point is 00:32:21 robert her report on biden's mishandling of classified documents where he was like you can't charge this guy i mean like he's so old he can't remember shit um is essentially he called him quote an elderly man with a poor memory who couldn't remember when he was vice president or even when his son beau died that's actually in the document? Yeah. Oh boy. Which is, that's not good. That's not a resounding endorsement. Biden comes through and was like, alright, that's it. Stage
Starting point is 00:32:54 a press conference. Oh no. Right now? Do you want to teleprompter? No. Fuck. No. We're going off prompter. We're going off prompter, Jack. So, I mean, people are, some people are like, that seems a little mean.
Starting point is 00:33:09 And, like, bringing up the, his son Bo dying thing feels a little, like, line-crossy. But also, like, his memory was material to any conclusions that were reached
Starting point is 00:33:18 in this investigation. So, I don't know. Because if you're honestly like, honestly, bro, this dude didn't remember. So I can't really say there was anything, like, untoward. Like, this dude didn't even remember when his son died. So I'm like,. Cause if you're honestly like, honestly, bro, this dude didn't remember. So I can't really say there was anything like untoward. Like this dude didn't even remember when his son died.
Starting point is 00:33:28 So I'm like, how am I going to, I don't think there's any malicious. And like, I feel that, you know, it's, it seems malicious or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:35 If you're so concerned about people, the perception around Joe Biden's mental acuity, like don't fucking shake the boat right now, but guess what? They're both fucking in decline yeah so it's not like i can see how it would come up when investigating someone's mishandling of documents and they can't remember like that that they were a vice president for a moment you might you might be like yeah i feel like this is what's going on here yeah but i get it too because he's
Starting point is 00:34:04 like a it was like a, the Trump sort of appointee sort of pattern of like the people involved. But sure. Yeah. The fact remains, Joe Biden can see dead people and he can commune with the deceased. Yeah. And also maybe,
Starting point is 00:34:19 you know, the memory is a little dodgy at times. So you did this impromptu press conference that i have to assume was just like he asked for it like 40 times before they even acknowledged that he was asking for it yeah and the first couple times it was like press conference sure let me tell the press conference okay give me 10 minutes let me just get the press pool together in the conference room really quick. He goes in. It's all his staffers.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Just fucking pretend to be the press, okay? And he's like, hey, hey, hold on, hold on. No, that's my assistant. So when asked about his memory problems at his impromptu press conference by Fox News' Peter Doocy, he responded, my memory's so bad, I'll let you speak.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Yeah. Got his ass. Everyone was like like all right biden's sharp um so just as he's walking away and his you know staff is like high five it like responding like they just won the super bowl because they're like oh my god he like pitched a perfect game almost out the door and a reporter asked him about israel and he returned to the podium and he kept speaking and he referred to egyptian president abdul fatah al-sisi as the president of mexico al-sisi um and that that was yeah it was just you know it's kind of the kind of shit that he's been doing for a while i think i don't know like three of the four last presidents have all been like this you know but w bush trump and biden yeah have all been the sort of people who confuse words for other words and misspeak and are kind of bumbling and
Starting point is 00:36:09 but is this yeah i mean is this bumbling or his met i mean because like i'm trying to be like is it that does andres manuel lopez obrador sound like i'll and anyone like trying to figure out if like if there are any connections here um but yeah joe look man it's like it's it's battle of the olds this fall yeah trump meanwhile this weekend couldn't say the word subsidies uh he also talked about how he once saw a migrant stealing a refrigerator yeah and claimed that if he didn't win, Biden would change the name of Pennsylvania. He said it with such confidence too. Yeah. Oh, we're not going to have, he's like, you got to vote. Remember we have to win in November quote. Oh, we're not going to have Pennsylvania. They're going to change the name. They're going to change the name of Pennsylvania.
Starting point is 00:37:01 For what reason? Again, like the people who work for him are like okay we could we could probably figure out a way to justify him saying we're not going to have pennsylvania like maybe you know they'll do something with taxation they're going to change the name oh what does that mean no you know why you misspoke you're going to change the name of pennsylvania oh it's because he has this like rhetorical style when talking about like when he has to sort of forecast what a like a liberal future looks like in america and it's always they're gonna take away your bread folks they're gonna take away all your tvs they're gonna change the name of like it's just like a thing he always just says
Starting point is 00:37:42 shit like this and sometimes it makes sense kind of like when you're talking about gas stoves or whatever he's like they don't want anybody cooking with gas they want people cooking with charcoal again or something or magnets and with this he just unfortunately just goes they're gonna change the name of pennsylvania they want toilets with tiny little mouth holes that can't flush our huge turds exactly um that was one of those things could you imagine if he started doing i think you should leave shit yeah i think i mean i think i think you should leave is one of his favorite shows and he saw that and was like that's what they're gonna do i love absurdity that math really tiny comedy
Starting point is 00:38:22 yeah love it because he did have like a run during his presidency about how toilets can't flush as big dumps anymore. Yeah. Oh, and then remember that one attorney general guy who made the toilet for big balls? Yeah. My balls are always dipping into the thing. Fucking Matt Whitaker.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Good Lord. Why is that name still in our brains? Anyway. That's not in mine. That is one of the things I have forgotten. Don't worry. Uber Eats commercial, which we will talk about when we come back from break. The Super Bowl
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Starting point is 00:42:07 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. And so you were kind of in flight and then at a bar. I was, my flight took off at 2.30. So you were, yeah. So it kicked off. It started like an hour into a cross transcontinental flight.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Yeah, yeah. It's kind of interesting looking at the flight map too, because like a lot of times when, you know, like you take like long flights, you kind of use the curvature of the earth to like lessen the the distance traveled like and i was like oh that makes sense like flying from la to george it's like the most straight line i've ever seen like a flight path take it's like and we're just on this one row it's like take the 10 on down and you'll get there but yeah i got that and i saw
Starting point is 00:43:01 so it's funny i didn't i didn't have it on my, I didn't, I wasn't watching it, but every person pretty much had it on. So like peripherally, like I was always kind of seeing what was happening. And so, but then I didn't see the halftime show because I wanted to watch it like properly. So I saved that for when I got to my hotel and I watched some of the, I just watched some of the commercials on YouTube because I wasn't really watching it in real time. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:25 I mean, halftime show was good. Uh, the skates were an incredible feat. I'm sorry. Usher man, 45. You're doing it.
Starting point is 00:43:37 You still got it. Like it's a 98 in here. I don't know how, sir, but you're when he, like when he went into, um, you don't have to call, but he was out. Like breath from the last number and then had to go, situations.
Starting point is 00:43:51 And I'm like, bro, you were just running. How did you hit that note? Yeah, it was crazy. And he knew the audio was actually his audio because they were having some mic difficulties. Also, Jermaine Dupree looked like a miniature version of silo he did i could i didn't know who that's who that was yeah i was like that's jd well because you know we were used to we're used to the braids and ever since he went clean shaven um you know and and the glasses and like the sort of tuxedo short style felt very like
Starting point is 00:44:23 narls barkley era CeeLo. Yeah, it did. That was who the people I was watching with thought it was at first. Yeah. No, but he was too short in stature to be CeeLo Green. But yeah. Really good show. I mean, a big night for Jesus.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Jesus Christ! Jesus Christ! There's like four ads where Jesus, the, he gets us. Those are everywhere. And these were like a series of what seemed to be AI generated images of people washing each other's feet. I know a bunch of little freaks.
Starting point is 00:44:58 It looked like, can you do like Norman Rockwell and David LaChapelle, you do like norman rockwell and david la chapelle like david la chapelle's photography style and generate all these images of the foot washings which are very that commercial was so weird very weird love the message of like hey christians hey get a fucking grip here's the thing uh that like it seems like his main thing was about like kind of liking each other being kind uh unfortunately the group behind it uh he gets us is bankrolled by uh at least partially by anti-lgbtq plus groups so which is well because that i feel like the final image was him with like uh like a gay guy with like a hat like it was sort of meant to be like and even
Starting point is 00:45:45 homosexuals are welcomed to jesus but also partially funded by the people who are trying to roll back rights for lgbtq plus people in america yeah oh okay okay uh mark walberg as mentioned up top urged us to stay prayed up uh and that was weird like it was it's an ad for an app most most of the ads seem to be for an app in one way or another yeah um but his is a app where you can pray with people um at the at the same time i don't i don't really i haven't really figured wrapped my head around how this works or why you would want to pray with people at the same time but i feel like it has to be a little sacrilegious to be like we're gonna monetize a prayer app right like actually like we're we're not gonna like make you pay we're just gonna like
Starting point is 00:46:35 you know you just steal your identity we're gonna basically steal your identity but then like also let us know what you're praying about you know what i mean like type it in what are your thoughts your feelings your your concerns the scientology model uh scientology had a couple ads which uh i'm not i'm not going to talk about them because i still have some research to do but it looked very intriguing i'm very interested in this group i haven't i don't i don't think i've ever heard of them before but we'll give it a look yeah we'll see some interesting stuff being talked about but yeah the scientology model of where you like where you find out compromising information about the people up front.
Starting point is 00:47:09 I don't know that that's what the Pray It Up app does. Maybe. It could be at the highest levels of the Vatican. They're like, we got to go Hubbard on them. This one goes all the way to the top, bro. Exactly. My boss, the Pope. Here, why don't you take it up with my boss the pope i i feel like that uh what's his name mark walberg is constantly saying that shit
Starting point is 00:47:33 quoting uh the pope's exorcist yeah or he'll be like or he'll be like really mean to service workers but then he'll be like yeah but guess what it's not coming from me it's coming from my boss jesus christ so why don't you learn how to fucking why don't you learn what a well-done hamburger looks like yeah yeah i like it fucking well done ben affleck did a duncan ad with a fake boy band the like i don't know like if you i i re-watched it this morning, so I get the vibe a little bit more, but it's just he comes into J-Lo's recording studio and pretends to be in a
Starting point is 00:48:13 boy band called the Dunn Kings. Yeah. I thought they meant like, y'all are done. Like you're cooked. Right. Yeah, the Dunn Kings. I thought that's what maybe he was like, oh, that's clever. I mean, it was like oh that's that's clever because y'all i mean it was him matt damon and tom brady yeah at least two of those three might be done um tom brady seems to just be on a tour of like appearing as himself with like silly
Starting point is 00:48:41 shit on his face right in a way that's like self-effacing but also it's impossible to tell if he's in on the self-effacement or not yeah it's so that's what a lack of charisma does to people you're like i'm not sure what you're doing here so i guess i'll have to so maybe wig acting yeah the move for this guy honestly i think the best part of that duncan ad was matt damon because he was the audience surrogate representing the audience and he's like this is fucking this is terrible dude why are we doing this so our writer jam was like how much does he love duncan that he like ben affleck is like willing to routinely humiliate himself for them yeah which you know partially you're like he obviously is making, you know, partially you're like,
Starting point is 00:49:25 obviously he's making a lot of money. Yeah, there's a bad. Partially you're like, he's probably taking payments in iced coffee. But it's just a weird brand relationship because his initial association with them comes from like tabloid photos of him looking like rock bottom as hell.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Just like puffy, relapse face smoking cigarettes looking like the soul has been just like drained out of his body and people were like man this guy loves his donkeys and now he's got like a national ad campaign where he's just got to pretend he's a loser and ads for a brand for a brand yeah he's associated with because they were there for him it's like rock bottom it's like the subtext yeah it's like this is his favorite thing like even at his worst like duncan was there for him but they can never acknowledge that like in the commercial where they're like duncan is there for people even when you've hit the absolute fucking bottom of the abyss yeah okay which Okay. Which would maybe be a hard-
Starting point is 00:50:25 They're naming a drink after us, was how the ad ends. Yeah. Okay, what is it? It's just an iced coffee with a bunch of, a lot more creamers in it or something? 17 creamers, dude.
Starting point is 00:50:36 How do you like them, Duncans? Yeah, Matt Damon's, you know, fun. There was a campaign ad about Uber Eats where it was like, how do I remember that Uber Eats can deliver all uber eats where it was like how do i remember that uber eats can deliver all this stuff and it's like well for everything you new thing you remember you have to forget something and it was just a bunch of people forgetting various things it was that was kind of that felt like the most classically executed super Bowl ad. Very basic premise. Doesn't really make sense. Could be
Starting point is 00:51:06 for 90 other products. Oh, right. The genius product that we should all be remembering. I remember it now. They also had a thing where an actor is eating peanut butter and
Starting point is 00:51:21 having an allergic reaction. And the joke is like, he forgot he was allergic to peanuts or that peanut butter and having like a, an allergic reaction. And the joke is like, ah, he forgot he was allergic to peanuts or that peanut butter had peanuts in it. It's weird to like have something that seems like it's a riff on brain damage in the middle of an NFL game. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Like the biggest NFL game. But yeah, it's, it's kind of just a weird ad. I mean, you know, shout out to a friend of the show, Adam Lustick, who played the man who had to have a little bit of peanut butter. So they had to cut that out.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Yeah. Adam, hey, man. I hope you, look, you got the check, obviously, to be in a Super Bowl commercial. It sucks that they didn't air your part where you were somehow the guy who was about to go into anaphylactic shock. I was about to die into anaphylactic shock he's about to die from uh
Starting point is 00:52:05 uh rfk jr aired a surprise super pack funded campaign ad that reproduced uh jfk's 1960 campaign ad that i was not familiar with um yeah but it's just you know it had old-timey music it felt and looked like it was from a different time basically it was just like images of him looking like just like skiing and shit it like just looked he just like looked rich which seemed like a weird image for somebody who's like trying to be a man of the people and were they like accentuating his eye color I felt like his eyes were really popping out and like yeah they were doing somewhat monochromatic
Starting point is 00:52:52 to make his eyes like bright blue oh cool cool so yeah vote for the the white walker um to be the fucking night king will be your president so he then apologized to his family on twitter claiming that the ad was created by a super pack without any involvement or approval from my
Starting point is 00:53:12 campaign guys i'm not trying to capitalize off our family name that's not even my dad i could have done one about with my dad but but I chose your more popular dad, and I know that's kind of scummy. But I love how he's doing the fucking same excuse again. Oh, it wasn't my idea. It was a super PAC. Oh, no, I'm not having the birthday party no one wants to go to. It was a super PAC. The super PAC planned it.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Always at the last minute when something's an L, the fucking super PAC is the one that came in. Yeah. Okay. And also, yeah, just that apology was slightly undercut by the fact that the ad was pinned to the top of his profile when he was apologizing for it.
Starting point is 00:53:55 You know how much that shit costs? I think it costs $7 million for that ad. Yeah, each ad costs $7 million. The other thing that jumped out to me was Temu. What was that jumped out to me was tamu uh team what was that yeah i am you no no i mean i saw the ad i was like what the fuck because i remember i think in the group chat i think you referenced someone referenced in the group group chat didn't they yeah yeah yeah and then i remember seeing it yeah i think it was super producer becca
Starting point is 00:54:20 oh yeah like so the deal with tamu is like it's like cheaper amazon right you can just buy stuff directly uh from china it like bypasses american warehouses um and the ad just it felt like the sales genie ads from years past do you remember those where it like the first one happened early 2000s i think oh yeah it was like the panda the panda was the more racist like second edition but the first edition okay sorry guy pierce uh-huh and it was just it was like an ad out of like an 80s infomercial that was just randomly in the middle. The quality was terrible. It was just everyone being like,
Starting point is 00:55:09 hey, Pierce, what's with the new car? He's like, you know, just killing it. It was just this random white guy. And his boss was like, hey, Pierce, let's go golfing. It was just showing this guy succeed in all these very like basic businessy ways and then they're like sales genie hey pierce what's with those sales leads and uh my friend sean and i have never stopped talking about it it's one of so heavy
Starting point is 00:55:41 handed it's so heavy handed like he just has like has the vet gets him wet energy of an 80s sexual predator. Right, right, right. So this one is not quite that... No, it's pretty tame in that sense. Yeah, it's tame, but it's such a basic computer animation. It really felt like it was teleported from a pre-pixar era yeah it feels like children's animation from the mid-90s yeah it's just like oh this ad is coming to us from a different universe than all the other super bowl ads um and they ran it
Starting point is 00:56:20 like three times right in like during regulation time in the super bowl so you know seven million dollars a pop and yeah so producer becca was saying that like their business model is like sell stuff for cheap but then they get access to your data you know oh is it that is the rumor um i have not independently verified but i mean yeah at the very least it just feels like a thing we're like watch this all the stuff they saw on amazon we actually got it over here how about we cut them out of it and yeah here's here's how you get into the fast consumer track yeah but yeah it's uh it doesn't get like even in the places where reviews are pretty you know usually like in the four star range like it's in the two and a half star range and people are like
Starting point is 00:57:05 yeah like this table only had three legs or whatever right i feel like that was like the problem with wish too yeah like everyone was like oh wish is so cool and then they're like uh everything had lead in it yeah all your favorite products made entirely out of lead oh that's our guarantee yeah this wow this looks like a eames desk chair but it's actually just made out of lead. Oh, wow. That's our guarantee. Yeah. Wow, this looks like an Eames desk chair, but it's actually just made out of lead. That's how we make it affordable. Yeah, I can't think of a worse product for the world right now than an Amazon that sells even shittier, junkier stuff than Amazon already does at a lower price point. Their slogan was like, shop like a billionaire.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Right. Which is like, oh, you mean like being the main contributor to climate change in the end of the world yeah that's yeah that's we can shop like a billionaire shop like a billionaire i think one thing i saw the guy who got like a ten dollar toupee you know how like the characters like in the commercial right like they would be like normal then suddenly acquire stuff this bald-headed dude i feel like he had hair all of a sudden said ten dollars like a ten dollar toupee i don't know i don't know like like a billionaire i mean like billionaires i guess don't stand in the sun with it too long or you will it will you are you are combustible and we cannot be made of ice cream unfortunately
Starting point is 00:58:18 i think the other thing that people hopefully begin to realize is so many of our consumer goods that are coming from china like that there's this whole thing where people just like print their own brand name on it after going to one supplier and being like oh this pop socket i put my company's name on and it's now different but other businesses also are obtaining their stock from like the same manufacturer that's why it's so weird when you see like identical usb cables or something but they always have like a different brand name on it and you're like y'all it's we're all just it's all different levels of marketing and you're like i think this one's better it's like it's actually the exact same one as this company it is really it's
Starting point is 00:58:58 just like a scam site going mainstream is basically what this was um which i guess where we're at like it's not surprising but it does seem like you know the thing we've talked about about like just products getting worse and worse because they've just like corporations have all the power and they've figured out like how to you know make things cheaper and people will still buy them because we're confused because you know that there's still a thrill of having a thing show up at your house but like right you know the the idea of i think emily heller uh talks about the time that she ordered a welcome mat that's made of like what looks like real grass and like the thing that showed up was a piece of cardboard with like a photograph of that taped onto it and it's like that's the world we're living read the fine print this was for this was for a this was for 10 photos of the iphone right read the fine print read the fine
Starting point is 00:59:59 print yeah so i mean the fact that that is kind of the name of the game these days in capitalism like it makes sense that tamu would be uh debuting with like three pretty shitty super bowl ads yeah well i'm sure they're like them shits cost seven seven million a pop like you think we're gonna spend we can't we had we made those animations on an app yeah Yeah, right. There was, it felt like there were a couple ads like that and some of the Jesus ones felt just AI generated for sure. Yeah, the foot washing one was
Starting point is 01:00:34 very, I was really trying to look to be like, is this, did you guys use mid-Germany? Mid-Germany? Mid-journey. Alright, those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday morning. Yeah. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show.
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