The Daily Zeitgeist - Supermarket Sweats, Hanger Management 12.2.19

Episode Date: December 2, 2019

In episode 526, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and podcast co-host of Who's Your God?, Views From The Vista, and The Male Gaze podcast's Steve Hernandez to discuss supermarkets adding gyms to get people out, impeachment polls, Texas republicans handing over their strategy plans to the democrats, Republicans hawking Russian talking points, the Nike Killshot shoe, working age Americans dying at higher rates, what being 'hangry' really means, and more!FOOTNOTES: Supermarkets are adding gyms because everyone loves stank while buying groceries Do Americans Support Impeaching Trump? Texas Republican Party’s 2020 election strategy document lands in Democrats’ hands Tucker Carlson is not "just joking" about rooting for Russia J Crew Nike Killshot 1 Working-age Americans dying at higher rates, especially in economically hard-hit states Don’t Get Mad, but ‘Hangry’ Isn’t Really Angry WATCH: Homeshake - Just Like My (Official Video) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's Monday, December 2nd, 2019. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. This Little Light of Mine. I'm Jack O'Brien. Courtesy of Hannah Soltis. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Okay, here we go. These are some reality show a.k.a.s. Miles Gray, a.k.a. Keeping Up With The Narblastrians, a.k.a. Tuscander Pump Rules, a.k.a. Clear Eyes For The Baked Guy, a.k.a. Who Wants To Be A Chillionaire, a.k.a. Flaccid And Afraid, a.k.a. Taco Bell Chiller In Paradise, a.k.a. Limp Practical Tokers, a.k.a. Project Run Gray, a.k.a. The Masked Venger.

The last one. A reference to our old manager, Arshin Venger, which I think we're kind of missing now. And that is from tritegang at just tvz. Nice. Wow. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian Steve Hernandez.

Great to be here. You know, these are probably my favorite two weeks of the year. Just two more weeks to truck in, give everything we have, and then just fall apart again for the end of December. I love it. How do you look at it? What do you mean, like, these two weeks? Well, we got two weeks.

Right now, I feel clean. I feel like, okay, I got two weeks to go hard, creatively, and then I'm allowed to, for the last two weeks of December, just, yeah, forget about it. L.A. empties out. I don't have to do any open mics, any shows. Right. It's going to be nice. It's some of the funnest times.

I'm just glad to finally meet Jack, the dream man right here. I've been on this show, this is my third time. I had never met him. And I heard, honestly, I heard online that you were like, whenever the fat Mexican's on, I want no part of it. That was what I said.

But now that we've met in person, I'm going to stop avoiding you. He'll always be. He's like, I don't have to be intimidated by this fat guy. Yeah, this dude rules. And honestly, Jack is much better looking than anything I've seen online. He's got like a really hunky quality, but you know, he's taken. You said

JFK Jr. I mean, I'm not kidding when I say that. There's something about his brow and his eyebrows that I'm looking at. And the shorts. The short shorts that I'm wearing right now all that thigh meat I could have used that on Thursday buddy those are killer tats

imagine you have your thighs tatted up I knew you were an Amy Winehouse fan I didn't expect your face on your fat thigh like that Jack and then on the other side

it just says you know I ain't no good wow yeah I'm spinning around to show off both sides right now And then on the other side, it just says, you know, I ain't no good. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I'm spinning around to show off both sides right now. All right. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about a new trend in grocery stores and gyms. about the polling on impeachment, which we finally have an update post all of the testimony last week or two weeks ago. So we'll check in with that. This actually happened more during the Thanksgiving break, but it's kind of interesting. So we'll check in with that. We'll talk about Texas GOP's 2020 game plan, which was leaked to the Democrats. They're not good at keeping those things under wraps. We're going to talk about the Build the Wall project, which has been handed over to Jared Kushner. So, you know.

Case closed. You know it's going to get done. We're going to talk about Republicans just taking on the Russian rebrand. We're going to talk about some scientific studies, all of that and more. But first, Steve, we'd like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I just looked up, let's see here. I wanted to know Jack Nicholson's age when he filmed The Shining. Do you guys have any idea?

40? Close. 43. That's exactly right. 43. Oh, my God. Is that just a good guess? I think so.

Or did you literally use some kind of math? No, I didn't do any math. And I looked up right to Tom Hanks when he did Forrest Gump, and he was, i believe he was 42 ah so these guys did some of the best work in their 40s yeah you guys have nothing to be afraid of okay right you have our whole life ahead of us and i was looking at it up because i said dr sleep did you guys see dr sleep no not yet if you are a king head go see dr sleep oh really yeah the whoever wrote it the the writer um and managed to meld the movie and the book together to make a pretty impressive sequel, if you're a King head.

If you're not, you might not be as jazzed. But every Stephen King fan I've talked to, love Dr. Sleep. That's why I checked out his age. 43 years old, and he looks great. Sexy as ever. What a hairline. Those 70s hairlines are still sexy now if you meet a man who has that hairline, but they're just not hyped up as much.

Nicolas Cage has that hairline, but I'm talking about sexiness, guys. This is an illusion. Nicolas Cage's hairline is... And Nicolas Cage is also like they, yeah, like he has all sorts of hair implants and shit, but like when, he used to have that hairline, and then Hollywood ruined him and was like,

no, you must have a strong hairline and then Hollywood ruined him and was like, no, you must have a strong hairline. But yeah, I feel like they're not allowing that sort of hairline in movies anymore. You either get hair plugs or shave your head clean like Bruce Willis. We got to bring bald back, Steve. Bring it back. Well, not bald. It's just a deep, deep V. The back halo. I mean, think about Bill Murray, about all that stuff. Yeah. Way deep there. Yeah, where you're slanging over.

The back halo. I mean, think about Bill Murray, about all that stuff. And these are sexy men. Yeah, they're not conventionally attractive, per se. But raw sexuality rarely is, okay? I'm talking about oozing off. Let's slam down in the bedroom. Let's see what you got.

Battle bots style. Let's see what you got down here. Battle bots. Battle bots style. With a receding ear. Like in Alexander, you remember when Colin Farrell was just with Rosario Dawson, like they were literally almost

punching each other? Oh, yeah. That's the kind of sex I'm talking about. What was that in? In the movie Alexander. Oh, in Alexander. That was a terrible movie. Bad movie. Also, it's funny, I was so fucked up when I saw that film on Xanax or some shit. I only remember three parts when I saw that film like on Xanax or some shit I only remember

three parts it's that part and this other part where Val Kilmer is talking about a horse and he goes his mind is broken about a horse yeah that couldn't be tamed I love I have so many funny memories about being uh effed up in the theater like I remember I was drunk and I saw Troy and I was just so drunk at some point like we took Tallboys in. I just went and sat in the lobby. It was the last showing at the Covina AMC. And then the people came up to me and they were like, hey, we're going to get rid of these hot dogs unless you

want to buy them for 99 cents. And I was like, this is the best night of my life. Don't remember the movie. Slammed three movie hot dogs for $3. Yes, please. Another one, Frailty, that movie. I was awake for the first credits, woke up at the very end. Wait, what is Frailty? It was like Bill Paxton.

Filmed in Covina. Oh. Yes. Holy shit. It's very odd that you're saying that. My mom lives right by where they filmed that, in Covina, Frailty. Yeah. It's kind of like these weird, it's a smaller thriller.

Got it. But it's actually very good. Is there like multiple personality things? No, someone has, someone you're trying to figure out if they really have psychic abilities. Oh, okay, got it. It's like a prophetic thing. Got it, got it. Yeah, I think it was

right around the time like I remember very vividly Ocean Spray started making white cranberry peach juice. And me and my friends mixed that with a bunch of vodka in the back of his trailblazer. And we fucking went to that movie. I was fucked up, man. I was fucking what?

This is fucking 2001 this shit came out? Or 2002? So I was 18. Yeah. And I'm fucking slept. Is that the Chevy Blazer back before they gave it a nickname? No, it was the new body style. Shout out to Chris.

It was his black trailblazer. But yeah, it wasn't the old school Blazer. What is something you think is underrated? It just happened. So I'm going to say this right now. White people Thanksgiving. You know, we people give a lot of shit to white people. But they do Thanksgiving right. I'm going to tell you why. And I think it's because, you know, we people give a lot of shit to white people, but they do Thanksgiving right.

I'm going to tell you why. And I think it's because, you know, this holiday really is for them. They're like, we eradicated all the Native Americans. It's the colonizer's holiday. We enslaved all these Africans. You know, they're like, we won. How'd you get the notes of my exact pre-Thanksgiving prayer? Dear God, we fucking won so hard, didn't we?

Yeah, it's nothing I'm proud of, but I've dated exclusively white women my whole life. And every time I've gone to Thanksgiving, I'm always so impressed, like how they have everything just laid out and pies. And I really do think, you know, because I'm Mexican, we get tamales at Christmas, but like, I don't know if it's just my family,

but it's just like a half-hearted effort for Thanksgiving. It's always like a dried out turkey or ham. Like I don't know if it's just my family, but it's just, like, a half-hearted effort for Thanksgiving. It's always, like, a dried-out turkey or ham. Like, we don't know how to do it. Yeah, we don't know how to. Well, because you're making somebody else's food. That's what I'm saying. It's like, eh, you know, it's not that great. But if you go to white people, that shit is juicy.

Yeah. So, like, yeah, I've been doing it my whole life, and I really appreciate it. They do it right. Come to my black Thanksgiving. You have a smoked turkey. You know what I mean? Okay. We'll do it next year. Good mac and cheese. You have a smoked turkey. You know what I mean? Okay.

We'll do it next year. You have greens. Yeah, we'll do it next year. Yeah, I would love to do that. But yeah, there is something for me too, not being white and having many friends that weren't seeing, going to a white person's Thanksgiving. It was like, it's like TV. Right. Yeah.

They have it on all these beautiful platters and everything. And everything's hot. Yes. I never had a hot Thanksgiving meal on my life. Yeah, they have it on all these beautiful platters and everything. And everything's hot? Yeah. You know, my house, the mashed potatoes are fucking cold. Never had a hot Thanksgiving meal in my life. I swear to God, I'm not just saying that. It's like three of seven dishes are warm. Right.

The other ones, it's a toss-up between scalding hot and ice cold. That's most of the Thanksgivings I've ever been to. Are you married to a Mexican? That's what I want to ask. You must be. I'm married to a Korean, and they do not do Thanksgiving the same way. But still, it's, I don't know. I don't want to shit on my mom's Thanksgiving.

So I'm just going to keep it quiet. Respect to moms. Well, I'm just saying, the white people, the woman I'm with now, beautiful platters, homemade cranberry, homemade rolls you know yeah the butter's like not hard they do everything right and people don't you know people shit on white people all the time and i just want to say they do this thing right okay big ups shout out to my people what is something you think is overrated um birthdays okay yeah i mean anybody who celebrates their birthday for like a week or anything you know they're they're morons or narcissists yeah narcissists but they're mostly

morons you know when you know i it's just like give me a break but i i do i remember when i was younger i would have these big birthday parties and it would really validate younger what age like 12 to 32 okay i think 32 is like the last big birthday, especially being out here in LA and being in the industry and comedy. You invite everybody and everything like that. And now I'm just like, you know, just give me my close pod, my fellow podcasters, my girlfriend's family, and my family. Let's lock this shit down.

My girlfriend just had her birthday at Buca di Peppo. 20 people. Love it. Pre-fixed menu. We're paying for everything. Shut the fuck up. We girlfriend just had her birthday at Buca di Peppo. 20 people. Pre-fixed menu. We're paying for everything. Shut the fuck up. We're just going to have fun. We're just talking. Keep the cannolis coming. One odd thing that happened at Buca di Peppo,

there was a photographer there that takes pictures, souvenir pictures. He was a white guy, tall, Swedish looking, fake Italian accent the whole time without cracking a smile. No. Wait, what?

I swear to God. Wait, you hit the CityWalk one? No, we went to the Pasadena one, and I swear to God, he was like, get a closer, give her a kiss. No. Not smiling, not joking. I wish I was making this up. It was the talk of the night.

And you knew it was fake just because it was so offensive. Just why would an Italian guy with that strong accent come work at the Pasadena Bucca di Peppo? Yeah. Yeah, this wasn't the Italy Bucca di Peppo, okay? This was a fucking Swedish guy, fake accent, not smiling the whole time, made our night. He's like, what part of Italy are you from? He's like, Stockholm.

I'm like, what the fuck? Jack, how do you feel about your birthday? I just met an Argentine, a dude from Argentina who has like the thickest, most cartoonish Italian accent I've ever heard. Well, I mean, there are a lot of Italians that are in Argentina. Maybe that's why. But like he's like from born and raised there. Yeah. Wait a minute.

So that's real too? Yeah, that was real. So I don't know. Maybe we just have our idea of Italian restaurants or Italian accents wrong? Hey, I don't know. He could be from the north of Italy where they're blonde and blue-eyed too. Right. I don't like presents.

I think everyone here at this table is old enough to buy whatever they want when they want it. I don't want to make people feel guilty about that stuff. Oh, hell no. I don't like burdening people. That's why half the time I don't even want to plan shit because i don't it's weird it's because i respond sometimes negatively to being invited places i somehow in my mind i'm like everyone else thinks the same way as i do right so i will just not say anything yeah and then the night before people like what are you doing right birthday i'm like i don't know let's i'll we'll go to this bar or something yeah but i'm not

i don't know that it's not like the thrill is gone. I just don't think it's necessary anymore. I feel like after those milestone birthdays, I guess it all depends. I think also, too, as a kid, my parents were like, do you want to party or do you just want these two things you really want? I'm like, yo, give me them fucking things. Right. I need this fucking Final Fantasy VII double disc. Yeah.

I don't care for it, but I don't begrudge other people who are really into having a big birthday. If they have they have i love to go to a great party yeah don't get me wrong yeah but i think like you're saying i know people to to this day in their mid-30s do that birthday week shit yeah and in my mind i'm like are you this really we yeah the whole fucking week no no no i like i said i want to bring people that I know truly love me. Right. Which is my family, maybe like eight people. And I'll usually pick up an extra bartending shift too.

So I try my best to pay for it. I like Petrillo's and Rosemead is like one of my favorite pizza places. So the thing's going to be three or 400 bucks or something like that. So I know it's coming. I pay for everything so that it's like people walk away like, man, I'm glad that guy was born. You know what I mean? It's like, man, that guy got me some free pizza and like garlic bread.

And if he wasn't born, I wouldn't have eaten that. So I would have bought that. Yeah. But I think birthdays for oneself are overrated. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Love is the most important part of a relationship. Okay.

What's the most important part? I think there's a bunch of things, but I think love is maybe 25%. Right. It's like not even that big of a deal. Have you been in love more than once? I don't know, actually. Maybe like one and a half. Yeah.

Well, I don't feel like you even want to talk about it. you're married too so yeah you can't be talking like that you're like yeah as soon as i saw my wife for the first time that i kept that one and a half but i've been in several relationships and i know people who are just looking for love but you know i think how people communicate how you argue uh the the same values you have, what you want to spend your money on. There's a bunch of other things that play such an important part. And I just think I know too many people who, when they find love, they'll try to hold on to it at all costs. And it's not that big of a deal. Yeah.

You'd be surprised how quickly you can find love. Yes. Around. But like you say, it's really those other things. Like, sure sure of course that love is there but are y'all acting as a team yeah it's a one thing because too many people are too caught up especially when they argue in someone has to be the good guy and someone's the bad guy and we will now begin to litigate who is the bad person between the two of us because it's

a binary and if you are the bad person then i can flex on you and be like well you were bad that time versus like what's is there a problem okay do we need to fix it or are we still sort of have this egoic attachment to being like but i was right and you were wrong because if things happen you can approach it as a partnership and be like okay yeah i fucked up i'm i'm like actually sorry like we can we should we should do that differently and it doesn't have to be like but you're bad well you brought up an important point right there

that's one of the things I've learned in romantic relationships is if you're with a good person and you should only date good people people that really love you and you know aren't using you for free meals

yeah if you're with that someone who is a good person and they love you nobody that loves you ever really does anything to hurt you on purpose. So you have to start from that place where as if this person did something to hurt me, they didn't do it on purpose. And so say, hey, this hurts me.

Or when you do this, this bothers me and it makes me feel this way. And then they usually go, oh, okay, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that. And then you just move on. Right. Versus like, that was so fucked up. I don't know why the fuck you would do that. How dare you?

I'm sorry I took a dump on top of the toilet again. That's why, honestly, I would almost say a person's argument style is more important than love. Because, yeah, people can be very vicious and mean. Or they carry patterns that they saw in their childhood incorrectly to that thing. And you're going to just bump into problems more. So yeah, I do think people talk about finding love. I think it's kind of a false narrative and it's been sold – a wholesale bill of gold is like sold bullshit to us as something that's super important.

Find someone you have fun with. Find someone – like I said, you want to spend your money on the same thing. Find someone you have fun with find someone like I said you want to spend your money on the same thing and find someone you communicate with and I think and you know that's why I'm a huge fan of arranged marriages

says the poly guy yeah I was going to say that like if love is a feeling like I definitely like when I was a kid had like

that like heart sick like feeling more than I ever did like as an adult like that like sort of oh my god I'm completely destroyed over this shit and like I I feel like that was because I wasn't a complete person like I hadn't like fully like lived my life and so yeah there was just like more tied up in that I wasn't like ready for it I cried over a girl who broke up with me and we only held hands right yeah oh yeah you know i mean that's how yeah you realize how fucked up the stakes are

you're like i don't know what the fuck is this you're fucking 11 years old why would she do that uh all right let's talk real briefly about uh grocery. So grocery stores, we've talked before about how grocery stores are like looking at trends and how people live their lives now. And they're like, grocery stores are a place that people are meeting significant others now because we don't get out of the house anymore. But it also sounds like a thing like the industry puts out there to try and be like, yeah, you might meet someone at a grocery store. Because I know sales have sort of been declining because a lot of people they'll

eat out or they use delivery shit they'll use like uh whatever the instacart type services to have groceries delivered and a big thing is like they're sort of looking at it is how do we get people to keep coming back to the store yeah uh and like there was one where we're talking about trying to make grocery stores more Instagrammable. We talked about that, I think earlier this year. Yeah.

About like a big push to be like, do we have displays that like millennia, it was written in such a painfully like boomer tone. Yeah. Like they're going to love these visual displays.

Put a mural of Biggie and Tupac in the produce section. It says spread love. It's the Brooklyn way. It's the Cookland way. Cookland groceries. The premier chef store in, what's that place? Let's call it Crown Heights. So with now, the new trend seems to be that people are adding gyms and workout facilities to grocery stores. Now it's not like worldwide, but they're saying they're pointing to uh a hy-v location

uh not sure what that is but i think it's out there in minnesota it's a big grocery store in the midwest um they're adding it what build studios for orange theory which is like an expensive like high intensity training gym right uh for like just in two of their minnesota locations and then also in 2014 there's a shop right in New Jersey had a fitness center that had like yoga and Zumba. And then like the Whole Foods store, the flagship in Austin has like more like they do like bar classes and spin and yoga on the roof. Like yoga makes sense to me. In a grocery store? Anything that, yeah, dude, where do you do yoga?

No. I don't know. Anything that like requires a lot of sweating and shit. That's what I'm saying. That's unsanitary. I associate gyms with staff infections. I don't associate it with a clean place. That's my excuse.

Hell no. I'm worried about my health. Are you kidding me? This sounds like a great idea. Are you kidding me? Don't you run errands? Yeah, that's true. And don't you go to the gym and go to the store after?

I do that all the time. I do do that, actually. Yeah, are you kidding me? To have a Trader Joe's hooked up to a 24-hour fitness would change my life. Interesting. Damn. Yeah, I mean, in fact, exactly that, because I go to 24-hour fitness and Trader Joe's. Yeah, I know you guys are clowning on, but this sounds great.

I guess the thing for me is, whenever I've out i'm sweaty as fuck right and i'm like i can barely walk around and then to add on top of that like shopping for groceries because i guess unless you're buying your shit before you work out that's one thing and you don't have like any ice cream or something maybe they have lockers to store that shit i don't know i'm overthinking it but am i anyway for starters i don't go to a fucking gym anyway, so it doesn't appeal to me regardless. I go to the grocery store after the gym all the time. But I understand what you're talking about.

But even you, both of you guys are dreamy looking. Throw a sweat tee on that, sweaty tee. This guy looks like a stay-at-home dad or something. Women are loving that shit. Or, you know, guys, whatever. I'll just spray my shirt so I look sweaty, just to kind of A-B test it. ab tested yeah so like i said i go to the gym after all the time i love that would you like to be shopping next to somebody who's dripping in sweat a beautiful person yes i would absolutely love just the idea of just drink up those pheromones because you know like when the

fucking aisles be like crowded and you gotta like scoop past someone some beautiful person sweaty yeah i would actually want to be right next to them well see we have different things where i'm not as into the sweat where do you shop where do you grocery shop fucking ralph's which one around where uh i'll say in the san fernando valley oh yeah that sounds terrible see i live here buddy yeah uh i go to i live here between the valley like it's a fucking space it's over the hill okay i go to the trader joe's in off third or whatever that one's like um near mid-city oh yeah the trader joe's in silver lake like la brea yeah yeah that one which is for my money that has more beautiful people and a lot of people in athleisure wear so they easily could become right jim that

trader joe's but i think ultimately i would meet another partner at the silver lake one but either one of these i'm going my eyes are wide open looking for my next partner you know looking for a new best friend right and i would love to just see them a hair tousled sweaty yeah you know be like struggling model what if i'm yeah what if i help them spot them and then later on see them in the produce aisle? I mean, boom, we're seeing a whole- That's a meat cute. Yeah, that's a meat-

On top of a meat cute. Right. Bam, we're stacking. Yeah, I didn't even think about that. Yeah, and I do wonder how much of this is like, you know, after a workout, you might be a little hungry. You might feel better about yourself. You might be more willing to like grab some of that candy

off the aisle because you're like, mm-hmm. That moral licensing that happens after you work out. You're like, man, I've been eating really good this whole week. I worked out. You're like, I'm going to eat just a block of cheese and ground beef and bacon. That sounds good, man. Because it's keto. I think the bottom line is it's really just about keeping people,

spending as many hours in that facility as possible. people, spending as many hours in that facility as possible. Yeah. I mean, maybe if they have like a smoker's lounge. See, that would get me. I'll get fucking high and then I go grocery shopping. That's actually a great idea.

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And we're back. And so we've been talking about how the polling on impeachment seems like, you know, it's always a week late. Seems like, you know, it's always a week late. So after the very first week of testimony, it seemed like impeachment was sort of trending slightly downward or like support for impeachment was trending slightly downward. And now it seems like it has shot back in the other direction. And now people. So I guess these are polls that came out uh right before thanksgiving so this was based on the week that son lynn testified uh and fiona hill testified so it seems like that stuff actually had some impact on people uh it wasn't just continuing to fall

on deaf ears it was like they actually yeah Yeah, well, it's compelling testimony. Gordon Sondland looked just like a doofus stooge, totally caught up in a conspiracy. Yeah. And Fiona Hill was like, I have an English accent. Right. So everything I say will sound credible. You will listen to it.

And it did. And I think her shaming Republicans for spreading like talking points that were manufactured by Russians or something was also a poignant moment. If people who bothered to watch saw it. Well, I mean, I guess really, you know, the the real thing is how much more of a case do they need to lay out before it goes to the Senate where Mitch McConnell can then completely make the narrative of impeachment whatever he wants it to be because now it's in his chamber. Yeah. But like heading into Thanksgiving, I was hearing people in the mainstream media say that Schiff might not even impeach. He might just censure because of how things seem to be fading a little bit in terms of how the effect of the impeachment inquiry. And so this at least would suggest that there's a little bit more of a license to at least get it to the Senate.

Well, I mean, the worst thing is for like some kind of sense of like legal nihilism to set in. Right. But that's what it is. I mean, but that's what it is because everybody's like, well, what's the fucking point? Well, that's what it's going to be once the Senate. Yeah. And I think that's really the real dark point is when we fully just get, we're like, what's the fucking point? They're going to sue and then it's the Senate. Yeah, and I think that's really the real dark point is when we fully just get, we're like, man, what the fuck are the laws anyway? Right.

Well, I think without the popularity of impeachment, that's what they're leaning towards doing. But we do, it is Congress's job to get it to the Senate. We have to impeach him. I want to see that full on the seat, the hot seat. I'd love to see him talking. Whenever he talks, it's the best thing in the world. Yeah, they're going to look like morons.

And then, you know, he'll remain president. Yeah. But that's just Congress's job. Yeah, they just have to do it to show that those mechanisms still function, even if the one chamber is completely fucking bought. Yeah. And in history will prove them to be, you know, evil. Well, and I think that's the other thing, too, is we almost need that to really help people like to really further the narrative or just this observation that the Republicans have completely sold themselves out in service of keeping this one president in power.

And that alone should be like this. They're done. Like if you were tied to this, like you might as well be Trump, too. should be like this they're done like if you were tied to this like you might as well be trumped too right and i think that's really where they like a vote like that on impeachment will fuller further underline that it's like these people don't even can't even look at objective facts and parse through them right without calling it partisan but again i think with people living in such different realities you'd hope there'd be a group of people who can see a lot of this shit on the right for what it is. Yeah. But at least, so Nate Silver tweeted, you know, finally getting a few more impeachment polls and the notion that the numbers are moving against Democrats isn't looking

so hot, plus four spread on supporting impeachment and removal, which is similar to the peak in October. So it's back to at least, I don't know, me not feeling like I'm living in a different reality than the rest of the country. Well, at the very least, they just do the fucking thing, bro. You got the facts. Just keep moving. Do what you got to do.

Because, yeah, I don't think anybody, I'm not sure many people think that once it gets to the Senate, they're going to wake up. So just let it play out however it needs to, and then we can go from there. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about Texas, because this is something that I kind of hear different. I hear the conventional wisdom, as it's always been, that Texas is a red state that Republicans will carry, and there's no chance of that ever changing. But then you hear every once once in a while people are like, what? The Democrats?

Like things are shifting demographically. The 2018 cycle was rough for the Republicans because, you know, there are huge gains from Democrats in the state legislature. And now I think they're really trying to figure out like we can't continue this trend because the majority has to be secured in this 2020 cycle. Uh, the thing is like everything, right? For some reason, Republicans have this real knack for not necessarily, I know we said leaked the, their 2020 game plan to Democrats. They straight up just emailed that shit to Democrats somehow. game plan to Democrats, they straight up just emailed that shit to Democrats somehow. Again, just like it happens with like Trump or the Republicans at the federal level, they somehow just end up sending talking points to the wrong people.

And this one was their full on strategy doc for their for the 2020 cycle. And it's just like, so their plan is basically step one, make a bunch of websites to smear the fuck out of people running against Republicans. It says the document lays out a plan to purchase online domain names affiliated with the names of candidates and begin building negative attack websites. For example, this is from the document says, for example, we will purchase Zwiner for Texas dot com, Zwinerfortx.com, and so on, the document reads. So basically saying from there, they'll build these websites and just fill it with a bunch of oppo or hit shit in there so when someone thinks they're going to get more information, they will end up in the Republican smear site. Right.

And then they also want to – Same tactic as Scientology. Sure, yeah. They buy domains of anybody who criticizes Scientology and just take you out. Welcome to this. And then they're also doing some SEO, man, some search engine optimization to make sure

that those websites come up also, or at least come up further to the top when you search them so you only read bad stuff about their Democrats. Now we've reached the limitations of democracy when you see stuff like that. Because if people are checking out websites like these

and they're being convinced by them, I mean, what is there to be done? Right. You know, if they're looking for this stuff by themselves anyways and it's just reinforcing their ideas. But with Texas specifically, I do know a lot of people, a lot of people leave California because they really can't afford it. Exactly.

That's like a real thing. So I do believe that Arizona and Texas specifically are getting people that are more, at the very least, moderate. Oh, no. They're all trending blue. Yeah. That's for sure. When you hear about when you cross the line over to Arizona and things like that, and

the gas is like $2 cheaper. I mean, I love California. I love our state, and I understand why we tax things so much. But I do know people who are just straight up like, I just can't afford this place anymore. Oh, absolutely. You can't buy a home here, really. And gas is— Or at least not in this county.

Yeah, and gas is terrible. So I do think places like Arizona and Texas are going to be trending more blue just because people are moving there because they can afford to buy a home and to live. I mean, one solution that we'll probably get to decades down the road, but is regulating the Internet so that this shit isn't possible. So you can't just have people like buying stuff and, you know. Oh, yeah. Just making our laws a little more strict and rigid. Oh, yeah, just making our laws a little more strict and rigid. So much of this is just the fact that we are still governed by a generation that doesn't understand the internet at all. When you get to regulating the internet in any way, they're just like, I don't know.

So eventually, hopefully, this shit will come under control of the same stuff that controls our other institutions. Well, yeah, I think that's why election reform is so important because this kind of shit, this is how dark money flourishes. They're like, the party doesn't have to do it. They can get these other groups to do it and go hard on this shit too and have a full-on campaign of bullshit sme of bullshit smears and shit but you know as long as our country continues to worship at the feet of capitalism you know this is how facebook makes their money yeah right this is how you know all so many companies make this money i can't imagine our government at this point you know i do hope people die out but you know medicine is making people live longer and these people will not like release any hold of power either.

There's going to have to be some kind of revolution but with Disney Plus just out, I don't know if I have time for it. I mean, $6.99 a month, all that program. Come on, man. Have you seen Baby Yoda? Yeah.

I ain't got time for this shit. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out who Yoda's baby is. We're just too comfortable to have any real revolution and it just keeps getting more comfortable.

So something crazy is going to have to happen. Well, yeah, especially when you look around the world and how people are in the streets like in South America

or in the Middle East and things like that. What would it take for that to happen in America? It would have to be like, I don't know. Disney Plus going on. Disney Plus would go on.

Netflix, you know, gone. If all the entertainment was gone, that is what is going to happen because right now- There would be a baby boom and riots. Because people would start fucking and fighting again. Yeah.

Like the Roman Empire, you know, at the end, it was all bread and circuses. Right. Like gladiator fights. That's where we're at. Yeah. Super cheap fast food. You can fucking look on the internet all day. It's like, why the fuck do I need to-

I can just be in my house and not give a shit about anything. Right. Yeah. Dark times, folks. I do wonder if tech billionaires are subsidizing Disney Plus because that shit seems too cheap. The opioid of the masses. The new opioid of the masses. They're just like, yeah, yeah, give it to them.

The other thing in that document that was interesting is that the Republicans in Texas are aware, though, that Trump's brand is toxic and a liability. So even in there, they pretty clearly spelled out. They said, given the polarizing nature of the president, I suspect some Republicans will refuse to turn out during the general election because they don't want to vote for him. Though I don't know that we will know what

this universe would look like without us or a stakeholder creating a model basically going on to like sue some polling. Regardless, I suggest we set up a contingency budget to target these folks with mailers, digital ads and text to encourage them to turn out for the U.S. Senate, State House, and so on. And some of the names are sort of like, vote right down to the bottom. Or like trying to do taglines like, vote right all the way.

But I like vote right down to the bottom. It's like, that's dark and perfect. And also way too appropriate. and also the bottom way too appropriate. Yeah. So speaking of Republicans, this is something that I guess Salon was pointing out, but that it seems like they're moving from being like implicitly on the same side as Russia to like,

maybe they're just openly kind of going with a rebrand to like, fuck. It's fun. Yeah. Fuck the West. It's hard to know. Let's go with Putin style. Yeah.

At first I was like, is it, is it trolling? Is it, is this all like an orchestrated plan to basically be like, okay, it's the end game for the conservatives. We're going to have to completely switch the system for us to stay in power,

which means we're going to have to do everything and be be evil but like when you kind of look at some of the stuff that's having the last couple weeks uh senator john kennedy from louisiana was basically like not willing to say whether or not russia was involved in election interference like when asked directly it's like but the intelligence community said it was russia you keep saying it could be ukraine and he's like well we don't know it wasn't ukraine right and they were like no but the we tell you internationally right the experts which you are not have determined well you don't know and i don't know yeah and it was like what the fuck is this dude doing right that's completely odd and again and then when he was called out he kind of was like oh no what i didn't that. I meant to say something else, but it was one of those moments where you're like,

right. What the fuck was this? Then Tucker Carlson said he was like rooting for Russia. Like in all of this, like in terms of like interference or whatever he goes, why? Or in, when it comes to other global conflicts, he's like, why would I care? He's like, I am rooting for Russia. And afterwards he said i'm joking i'm just trying to troll but again there is this like attitude about everything just sort of seems whether it's not explicitly about necessarily uh you know becoming like russia but this move towards this autocratic ethno state shit uh is i don't know it just seems like it's becoming like overt basically uh and it's hard to understand what is really motivating that if it is a conscious thing or if this is just sort

of like like any living organism trying to preserve itself just thrashing about and doing whatever it can to maintain that but it's it's a i don't know i was looking at many things and just kind of beginning to think like hmm what, what are they thinking? Do they still think they can do it the old way? I do think it's just trolling for the most part. But I also do feel like this is like the last gasp of like – I say last gasp. I hope it is, but of like white supremacy, patriarchal action and stuff. They just – they like the way putin does he's like

a gangster yeah and that i mean america is a country of we're gangsters we're founded on that kind of a power where you listen to what i say don't be disrespectful it's like all really kind of fucked up stuff we don't apologize trump doesn't apologize it's all it's all things like that where this is what america was founded on I think we're fighting right now to become this new version, this version that we could be. But, I mean, it's at the heart. This is who we are as a country. Right. And so they love that.

They love shows of power. They love that kind of shit. It's just an abusive dad. Yeah, and I think it's maybe, too, not understanding what the knock-on effects are. In the moment, it's fun to troll and be like, oh, well, who does know who actually hacked it? But not really realizing that effect it has on people who are looking at our system and be like, what is this? Yeah, what's happening? Well, and it's America's desire to win at all costs.

We always grew up with the phrase, it's not whether you win or lose, it's how you play the game, which I mean, that really is true, but that's not, if we just want to win at all costs, we don't care who we're associated with. It's a really fucked up thing and I think it's causing our country

to rot inside out. And I think, we talk a lot of shit about Trump, but I think he's just more of a cause about what's really going on. A symptom, right? I think he's a chump, cause about what's really going on you know i don't symptom i think he's a chump yeah he's a symptom he's not the cause and so um they just want to win no matter what and they'll team up with whomever to win no matter what i think his presidency accelerated the process of like very acute pronounced white fragility

and this like this feeling of waning white male supremacy uh because that's really a lot of this stuff is in service of that it's like who are who are the traditional people in power in this country as soon as that field begins to expand it's like no no how do we keep this fucking here yeah this group of people and that's why i think they love russia so much is to r Russia hates homosexuals. Russia hates people of color. They murder people. That's the kind of thing that I think Trump

and a lot of the people on top would love to get back to. I would love to just squelch power. Especially with that in journalists too. Oh yeah. Murder them. They're shook over there. It's like, man, our journalists aren't shook enough. Basically like what they feel like, damn, if only our journalists were shook. Yeah, I think it's blatantly them trying to, like, they want autocracy.

Like, he's not keeping that a secret. He wants to be, like, authoritarian. He wants a world like Russia. And it's that vision of the world versus, you know, the other side's vision is basically democracy. this to happen. It's like, no, like anybody who's still supporting that party and in the era of Trump, like they have at least like unconsciously, maybe they haven't like admitted it to themselves, but they are on the side of like authoritarian. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Like that's, that's what all of this lines up to. Yeah. And I think that's why it's important, I guess, to begin looking at it like that, to be like, this is what this party is going to evolve into. Yeah. And I think that's why it's important, I guess, to begin looking at it like that, to be like, this is what this party is going to evolve into.

Yeah. And they're going to cheat and, you know, try and do smash and grab shit around elections. They're not going to try and like follow the rules. And then when you catch them, they're going to be like, this is a kangaroo court. This is an outrage, which is what Trump's doing. And yeah, I mean, it's like there was a point after Obama won two elections in a row where the Republicans were like, we have to take a step back. We have to look at like demographics like we don't have enough conservative old white dudes to continue winning. So we have to adapt and become more liberal. And that was like Jeb Bush and like people like that.

And that was like Jeb Bush and like people like that. And they were like, or like this other side came in and was like, or we could use white supremacy and just like try and do the Putin thing. And carve the map up differently and just eke out an electoral college. Just smash and grab. And that's I mean, so they literally are fighting for their lives. And they're yeah, it's it's not going to be pretty. Well, I think that's where it's good to have people be aware that at the same time,

it's going to be a fight for our lives too. Yes. You know what I mean? In the way that they're trying to preserve their power, the knock-on effect is that it's infringing on our freedom or our ability to have an equitable society.

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It's the official shoe of UCB. Improvers and sketch actors everywhere. But I've, I've noticed in the last like two years that that shoe is now like the only thing that white dudes in plaid shirts are wearing. Yeah. Like that. Yeah.

It's unbelievable. I don't think I've seen a piece of clothing like that has become that prominent. Like I guess. Yeah. Well, the gingham shirt right the gang that shirt yeah yeah that gingham shirt j crew yeah gingham shirt the gingham shirt i think was like that but i to me this shoe which i would never wear because i'm swagless uh is a

thing i see a lot to a and j crew where unimaginative yuppies go to learn how to dress and they're like okay if i dress like this mannequin that is how i look like i have a six-figure job right um but also i see it a lot in like outfit grid instagram accounts okay like so for people who don't know there's like it's a style of instagram post where people lay out an outfit but like a sort of a grid like on the floor it's like this is the shirt with the jacket, the pants and the shoes, not on somebody, but just the articles of clothing. And I see this is like a standard shoe because I think it goes with so many things or just you dress a certain way. It's versatile.

But that's the other part I also see being reinforced, too. So if you also like your style is based on like outfit grids on Instagram, you're like, right, I got to have this shoe. Yeah, most guys don't care about how they dress and it does go with everything and you kind of get away with it. And it's like a $80 or $90 shoe. It's almost like a Prius of a shoe. Like anyone, you could get a Prius here in LA

and people will know, like they can't tell how much you make. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, maybe they love the environment. Maybe they're just trying to be practical. I mean, Leonardo DiCaprio has one. Yeah. So it's,

it's just like that kind of thing where it's like, Oh, I'm not poor or anything. And, and you know, I'm fine. Right. Isn't this fine?

Like J. Crew's been selling that shoe for like nine years. And like J. Crew usually cycles through like new balance and different types of old school Nikes and stuff. But that shoe just like, for whatever reason, I guess, because they've been selling it for so long. Or Nike just has them on some deal like that.

Yeah, but it just blew up in the last year. It's weird. Don't wear that shoe, guys. Find other sneakers to wear. If you wear the Killshot, let us know why you like it. Yeah. But honestly, I'll be stunting on people with my sneakers. Yeah.

I mean, I like a Cortez if I'm going to wear something like that too, but Cortez have so much – it's so ethnic, I think. But George Costanza pulled them off pretty well. Yeah, and so did the Heaven's Gate Colt. Yeah, those weren't Cortez. Oh, what was the other one? It was some kind of weird Mervyn's kind of knockoff thing, yeah, some $60 Nike.

But, yeah, if you're a white guy and you're thinking about getting a kill shot, go Cortez. Right. And you'll have the respect of people of color everywhere. You are interesting. And the respect of George Costanza. I don't know. Also, but you rock Cortez's wrong. Someone might come for you.

No, I don't think so. I mean, I would- I've looked at people funny when they're rocking Cortez's in a weird way. You can remember a time when somebody wore- You're thinking of it right now? Yes. No, I don't think so. I mean, I would. I've looked at people funny when they're rocking Cortez's in a weird way. You can remember a time when somebody wore. You're thinking of it right now? Yes. I remember being in a footlocker and a really person who was melanin deficient was looking at Cortez's and was like, these are pretty cool.

I see some guys wearing this. No, I like it. And I was like, you're going to look like a fool, bro. I like it. It's like to me when I see a white guy wearing a fool bro i like it's like a to me when i see a white guy wearing a nike cortez it's like a white dodger fan it's like i'll die for you fool oh yeah it's like you're repping my hood yeah yeah it's like you're repping my hood yeah to stand that those should be called the air costanzas man he was wearing those in every like many many different episodes i'm just looking at like i just i just googled george

costanza cortez and like they're uh they're everywhere they really look sick on him too he did a great job yeah the he was wearing the like navy ones i think yeah nylon navy one nylon navy yeah oh yeah it's called the nike decade is that what the suicide cult war the nike decade those are bad your Your guys are good. What are the ones that Marty McFly is wearing in Back to the Future? Those are similar. There's a story about the Nike employee who sold that stock of shoes to the Heaven's Gate Cult.

This is according, now take this with a grain of salt because this is a story that was out years ago. But the Nike sales rep was so proud of his big sale that he delivered them to the house and asked, Is this for a basketball team? To which he was replied to with something like that. Wow. We're all cutting our dicks off and then taking a bunch of poison. Did they do that? Yeah, they cut their dicks off. Oh, a bunch of poison. Did they do that?

Yeah, they cut their dicks off. Oh, man. I mean, they didn't do it right before they killed themselves. That was like part of their jam. Yeah, wow. The Marty McFly Back to the Futures are the Nike Bruins. Oh, shit.

Oh, yeah, the Bruin is a dope shirt. Or the dope shoe. I used to wear an SB version. They look a lot like kill shots, though. Yeah, well, because it also looks like a low version of a blazer. It's just like a certain style of shoe. It's meant to be retro, but you got the check. I'm fine with the overall aesthetic of the kill shot.

I just feel like if you are wearing that exact kill shot, it's like you might as well just be like, yeah, I gave up and decided to choose nothing. Choose this shoe. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about something more serious than my observations on white male footwear. So, Miles, you were looking at this study from VCU that is saying that mortality rates are increasing for working age people as life expectancy declined. Yep.

Yep. That's about it. Bleak, bleak outlook. Right. But this is like unprecedented. This doesn't happen in the developed world very often. It says, according to the study, death among Americans aged 25 to 64 are increasing, particularly in Rust Belt states and Appalachia. particularly in Rust Belt states and Appalachia.

And they say these deaths have basically driven the life expectancy down since 2014. And they are linked to a few different causes. So compared to the 90s, working age adults are now more likely to die before turning 65 from drug overdoses, alcohol abuse and suicides. And they call these deaths of despair, but also from other organ diseases. suicides. And they call these deaths of despair, but also from other organ diseases. But essentially, these are symptomatic of a society that has no compassion. And its only concern is profitability. Because when you look at the hardest hit areas, they're the ones that used to have a healthy manufacturing sectors, people were employed there. But as you know, tax cuts, corporate rating, global trade, all this shit happens, completely turned into places with going through decades-long decline. Right.

And it says that the study shows that some of the largest increases in working age mortality since 2010 occurred among women and adults without a high school diploma. And so the industrial Midwest and other regions that have been hit by a lot of these changes since the 80s, like losses in manufacturing, et cetera, they are experiencing the largest increases in mortality. And yeah, when you look at it too, it goes back to the 80s, essentially.

Like we lost pace with other countries in the 80s, and then the life expectancy stopped increasing in 2011, and then I think it flattened out. And then 2014, it started to decline. And this is the only – this is a distinctly uniquely American phenomenon compared to other industrialized nations in the world. Do we think of it – so the 80s and that was when things started moving in a like very, like tax cuts, kill all the unions. Well, those Reagan tax cuts were brutal. All unions started going away.

All the NATO stuff. There's a lot. I think there's a lot when you look around there, and even the late 70s too, which I think maybe that's why it started hitting in the 80s. But that's really when those things began to fully start changing. And I think that probably makes sense why that's the reason why the U.S. started losing pace with other nations. And we can't, you know,

you can't forget, it's one thing I liked about Andrew Yang. I'm not a big Yang gang guy, but he's the only one talking about jobs being lost. They will continue to be lost because of technology. My dad was in printing growing up.

He used to work at George Rice & Sons over there in East Los Angeles. And he had a really good job in the 80s and 90s. I think he was making $100,000 a year when that meant something. And he had a high school degree. But because of the internet, people just aren't

printing things like they used to. I remember he used to make movie posters and magazine stuff, but magazines are going away. All that's going away. The whole printing industry, he had a printing job as recently as three or four years ago. He's like 64 now and it's just decimated. Yeah. So people don't even think about that kind of stuff, but robots will continue to take away our jobs.

Yeah. And that's the thing. I think that's why a lot of people, as they look at the automation issue or that trend towards automation, like what that actually means for the nature of life in general, because right now the idea is like you work and that's how you support yourself. But is there a world where the technology becomes so great that most jobs aren't even necessary for people to do because we have automation? And then that brings in the universal basic income talk of like, well, then how do we level this? Because you can't just have people not working at all and expect them to support themselves and more importantly, to consume. Yes. Yeah, exactly.

So, yeah, if a person without a job is I don't know if you guys have ever never had a job. I've mostly had a job my whole life, but I can think of a time where there was one month between TGI Fridays and Claim Jumper where it was rough. To me, I mean, when I quit being a pastor, I got a job at a liquor store full-time and a gas station. What's it called? What do you call that overnight shift? Graveyard shift three nights a week.

Wow. But just to have money because it's bad. But if there's nothing to be had or if I had a family, like forget about it. It's got to be the worst feeling. So when I hear about alcoholism and depression and all these things, it makes complete sense to me that you would feel so hopeless that it would happen. So, yeah, this isn't very surprising. I think it's only going to get worse oh absolutely and i think when you look at to the you know especially the way societally we look at the nature of work too for men also it's like in and you're inundated with this idea like you're the breadwinner man like you're

supporting you can't even do that are you like all that shit begins to creep in man i remember when i got out of college, I was like, I got a degree and I'm like, I'm working at a t-shirt store because like the economy was just so completely decimated. And that even the owner of that place was having trouble. My checks were bouncing and shit.

I was like, yeah, it's shit. It's, I think it's a really serious issue too, that we need to begin examining at every dimension. I think that's why when you look at the nature of people, you know, going bankrupt because they need medical care or being saddled with student loan debt or these other things. These are all factors that like, again, when you look at these candidates and what they're talking about, you want them to treat a lot of these symptoms that's leading to this kind of these deaths of

despair essentially I think that's really very important to me is when I look at a political candidate because that is these are other forces at play within the country that need serious attention oh yeah it's not politics affects people's lives my friend comedian Kate Willett just put out a thread talking about her family had jobs, but her brother had serious health problems. So they basically ended up going bankrupt because just copayments. Right. And then the dad lost the job, so they're paying thousands of dollars a month for COBRA to maintain that insurance.

And these are the things that, yeah, I mean, what is a country for if not to make sure that its citizens are happy and healthy and they believe they can achieve the American dream. Well, as I said, it's all gangster culture. Yeah. I mean, it's like at the end of the day, it's like it's really not about your well-being. It's about the people who are powerful enough to like make as much money as possible. Yeah. I think that's really the shame and all of it, too, because like we just completely lack compassion for the human beings that live here in terms of like our cultural value or societal values at least in this country. Yeah.

And I mean going to the Rust Belt thing, there's some stat I read this week that two-thirds of American GDP is generated by counties that vote Democrat. So there's like this whole – the urban the urban rural divide is still real as hell yeah and i'm sure only fuels resentment between sides because you look at it's like well all the liberals live there oh and that's where there's all this this economic uh prosperity or whatever meanwhile over here it can feel very much like two different fucking worlds yeah and i think that's the real problem and you know truth be told even in these places people are also still struggling in a very different way i mean not a very different very similar way just it looks different right it's but it's still being you know concentrated among the the very wealthy uh there there's another stat that 60 of american wealth currently is inherited

yeah so i mean that's what we're doing. Which is so crazy still that people will stick to a side that believes that, you know, to me, 80% being taxed after $10 million a year seems like, okay, who gives a shit? Right. You have $10 million. But there's still a ton of very poor people who think, yeah, that's fucked up. That's fucked up. Yeah.

Right. And it's like, come on, guys. they should, that's fucked up. Yeah. Right. And it's like, well, come on guys, we got to look at the overall. I'd be like, what if I told you that person who's facing that, like that kind of tax hit is the same person who fucked you out of your job and completely moved a factory somewhere else so they could even get that 10 million. Yeah. Do you still feel like you want to protect them? And they do.

And they'd be like, well, it's catch 22, man. And finally, it's time to talk about the last thing that's on you guys' mind after Thanksgiving, which is hunger. Hangryness. Hangry. Hangry. Hangry. What is hangry? I definitely feel this shit, man.

You get hangry? Yeah, I get hangry. So I get pretty hangry too. Yeah. But here's the thing. A lot of scientists are trying to figure out what that even means. Right. Like what does hangry mean?

Exactly. Like can they scientifically analyze this? And obviously for the people who don't know, when you get hangry, that's when you got low blood glucose level, a.k.a. hunger. And then, you know, you start getting aggressive or moody or whatever and a lot of people blame their hunger i think maybe i'm just being immature and i'm playing food right but i get crungry whoa cranky hungry oh i thought you'd like you get crunk when you hungry i get crunk well as a fat man i'm not allowed to be hungry i didn't know if you guys knew that but you, you know, if I ever mentioned that I'm hungry, people are like, yeah, no shit. That's very hack.

You're hungry. Can't you live off some of this meat, buddy? Come on, man. So they say there is a few studies that they were trying to really get to the root of it because it's not just like about is it actual anger? Is it righteous anger? Is it just that your lack awareness or things like that so in one study they were looking they had 230 students like

hungry students and what they did is they were fucking with them by like deliberately crashing their computers like in this experiment where they're doing these really tedious tasks they were all hungry but the frustration from that wasn't enough for them to get like angry or whatever. They're just like, oh, this sucks or whatever. And then they, but, but the thing was that group of 230 was divided into two groups, one group that was focused on their emotional state as they worked. So part of their, their thing was like, keep track of your emotional state as you do this thing on the computer. And another group that just did not, they're just like, do this thing.

And they found out that the group that wasn't tracking their emotional state was the one that was slightly getting more agitated. So they don't know if that was because of self-awareness or whatever, that it just hit them and they're like, what the fuck is this about? But what they said ultimately from that is that being hungry does change your affect or emotional state, but it doesn't suggest that it automatically leads to being angry or more selfish. And they did this in Europe too, with different ways using hungry people and seeing if they would be more generous or work together

more based on their like level of hunger. And that didn't quite affect it either. So it's like, they know it's like, they know it changes it, but it doesn't necessarily make you like less cooperative or these other things. I don't know. At the end of the day. So they got more frustrated more easily if they were not consistently monitoring their mood. Yeah, but it wasn't. But but that was to show that regardless, both groups of people were hungry. Right.

So whether or not it was the awareness or not, like it didn't necessarily say that you could be completely unaware or completely hungry and unaware. And then that was pissing you off. Right. Yeah. In my mind, just fucking feed me. I do feel that last week on Tuesday, I do feel like if your body's not optimal, that you're more likely to get angry.

So I was kind of sick last week with that cough thing that doesn't go away or anything, and then we were traffic and i'm not really a angry person i don't like really do outbursts but last week i was traffic was so bad last tuesday uh that i mean it took us two hours to get to covina from la yeah like literally it was bad it took me an hour to get home yeah it took i'm over the fucking hill. Yeah, it literally took us 45... I live off of Melrose and Normandy. It took us 45 minutes to get on the 5 near Silver Lake.

45 minutes. Right, right, right. And then by Wednesday, it had kind of cleared out a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yesterday was the big... Tuesday was the big day where that happened. But I wasn't driving. Julia was driving, and I was like punching the ball and everything.

But it's just because I was sick too, and I kept saying, I'm sorry I'm being this way. And she's like, it's fine, it's fine. But it's just because I'm not – like our health, and I think even being hungry, I think we're so used to just being fine that when you're sick or anything, you're like, what is going on with me? Right. And we're not able to be more as considerate or aware of how we're reacting to each other as a patient.

And especially with loved ones. See, that's why this test is kind of thing. I think when you love people, they kind of become you. You become one with them. And so you're more likely to go off. I would have loved to see this hunger thing you should know me yeah right

I would love to see that with couples building Ikea furniture yeah oh my god yeah that then we're gonna no Swedish meatballs baby

that thing is not getting built oh fuck don't even oh man I need Swedish meatballs even the frozen ones go hard alright make them at home

with the gravy packet I thought you meant eating them frozen I just put it in my mouth and take a little take a little popsicle throw it in my mouth Steve it's been a pleasure

having you man oh it's been you know it's so great to meet you Jack I'm so happy to meet you finally we're gonna have to start hanging out

all the time meet at that Trader Joe's meet at that Trader Joe's exactly mid bench press yeah hell yeah I'll spot you, fo.

Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me at BigHerd on Twitter, Herdy on Instagram, or you could listen to one of my podcasts. My movie podcast is Views from the Vista with Zed Kutzinger, Honor Nezzo. My religion ethics podcast is Who's Your God with Amy Miller. Yeah. And then my sexy news podcast is The Male Gaze with Alan Strickland-Williams, Brody Reid, and Zed Kutzinger. Ooh. And is there sexy news podcast is the male gaze with Alan Strickland, Williams, Brody Reed,

and Zed Kutzinger. Ooh. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Yes. It's he's a Twitterer. I'm talking about Brody Reed. I work with him on the male gaze. Yeah. That is a fucking murderers row,

by the way. It's very fun. And it's coming together more and more all the time. I've been, as someone who creates podcasts a lot, I very hesitate to put together super teams because it usually doesn't work out. It's like the Lakers back when they got Carl Malone and everything. The personalities don't work, but this one is working out.

Brody Reed posted this last week, and it is so funny. It was based on that tweet that went around with that woman who's a PhD said, oh, I would appreciate if people sent me text this way. And the person sent the text that said, hey, do you have the emotional capacity to hear from me as a friend right now? I have some weight medical things to talk to you about. And she said, no, I don't currently have the emotional capacity to do this, but do you have someone else? It was a whole thing that went on. I don't currently have the emotional capacity to do this, but do you have someone else?

It was a whole thing that went on. So Brody created this tweet from someone named Billy. It looks like this person named Billy is texting the person. This person named Billy says, do you have the time to listen to me whine about nothing and everything all at once? And the next one is, I'm one of those melodramatic fools, neurotic to the bone, no doubt about it. Sometimes I give myself the creeps. And the response from this from this person is hey i'm so glad you reached out i'm actually at capacity right now and

i don't think i could hold the appropriate space for you do you have someone else you reach out to i like this it's of the zeitgeist but i actually know that brody has been jamming that green day album for the past two weeks right uh which by the way jam dukey now in a car if you have a chance it got played out so much when we were younger but when you play the whole thing now it sounds so fucking good

it's such a good album even that secret song I love that secret song so he was jamming the album and then this thing came up and he put I love when you can see a joke come together

and you know how it came together his whole feed Brody is really locked into who he is as kind of like a black dark prince of got, dark prince of Los Angeles. I mean, he's so beautiful, too.

He looks like Terrence Trent Darby. I mean, so he's really locked into it. He's just really locked into his voice. And so I was trying to figure out who I have been loving lately. And he just happens to be my friend. But I was going down his thing and just doing this. He said, what did he say? I love hitting the cold brew so hard.

When you hit it so hard and it feels like you went to college. I love that. I mean, he just had so many. I was just going through his whole feed. So if you get a chance, check out Brody Reed. His tweet is AyoBroBro. That's at A-Y-O-B-R-O-B-R-O r o and very funny guy uh miles where can people find you uh you can find me and follow me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray uh tweet i like uh

let's see this one is from dana donnelly at dana donnelly it says hello everyone has come to my attention that i have a rare type of depression where I have enough energy to do the things I want to do, but not enough energy to do the things I need to do. I am self-diagnosed. Doctor says this quote isn't a thing and quote, but she can eat shit. Yes, that's me. That's all for me today. Uh, yes, that's me. That's all from me today. Uh, Josh Seyfried tweeted, everyone's doing the 10 year challenge. Here's one 2009 minimum wage, 725, 2019 minimum wage, 725.

Uh, and then Andrew Nadeau at MacGyver, MacGyver tweeted, trying to make friends. Me, what's your favorite burner on the stove? I like front left. What's your favorite burner? I think back left, actually. Back? Yeah. I'm a front right man myself. I'm a front left or front right.

I use front right more because that one has a quick boil setting. There you go. Like the flame goes out wild. Back is because of kids because if it's front, kids can just reach up and pull shit off. Jack, do you have kids too? I got two kids. How old are they? Three and one. Oh, you lucky man. These beautiful babies. Good for you.

Thank you. I am lucky. And you can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode

as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what are we riding into this fine week upon? Okay, we're going to do a track from Home Shake. It's called Just Like My, And it's just got good. It's easy. Look, we know we just had a nice week of eating and feeling ourselves. But now we just need to ease out of it. I don't want to do anything too heavy or intense.

And this is just a nice, warm blanket of a track with a nice keyboard sample. Or the progression. I don't know if it's a sample. But I like the keyboard work on it. I like the beat. I like the vocals. You know what it like the beat. I like the vocals. You know what it is. Home Shake, just like mine.

All right. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. We are going to ride out on that. We will be back this afternoon with our Zeit trending watch. We still haven't titled that thing. The Zeit's Watch. The Zeit's Watch. There you go. We still haven't titled that thing. The Zite's watch.

The Zite's watch. There you go. We'll use that one. Yeah. And we'll talk to you then. Bye. Bye. I don't know what you're seeing now Anyway, I'll be around here Pretty much the whole day or so

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