The Daily Zeitgeist - Supreme Court = Trump’s Life Raft, That A.I.n’t Wonka 03.01.24

Episode Date: March 1, 2024

In episode 1634, Jack and Miles are joined by hosts of On Theme, Yves Jeffcoat and Katie Mitchell, to discuss… The Supreme Court Will Rule On Trump's Immunity… Very, Very Slowly, More Shitty Wonka Updates, VR Is Improving The Lives Of Senior Citizens and more! Trump immunity claim: Top US court agrees to hear case in April The Supreme Court just made Jack Smith's job that much harder US supreme court urged to make ‘immediate, definitive decision’ on Trump’s immunity "The Unknown" AKA The Willy's Chocolate Experience Villain (Clip) Furious Harry Potter fans demand refunds after 'world of magical wonder' turns out to be room with finger buffet and wands made out of chopsticks 'Much like Snape, people have looked at me like a villain!' Man behind failed Harry Potter event in Canada shares plans to donate $2,000 to J.K. Rowling's charity - but Potterheads won't get a refund VR Is Improving The Lives Of Senior Citizens V.R. ‘Reminiscence Therapy’ Lets Seniors Relive the Past In nursing homes, VR is a hit. Is that a good thing? Nursing Home Staff Shortage Among Reasons for Nationwide Closings US will regulate nursing home staffing for first time, but proposal lower than many advocates hoped US nursing home workers face ‘catastrophic crisis’ of understaffing WATCH: Richard Lewis on Candid Camera LISTEN: Untitled by Kate BollingerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 327 episode 5 of dirt daily night guys a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. And it is Friday, March 1st, 2024. It is? It happened? It's finally happened. I thought February was just going to keep going. I was fine with February 30th. Wow, March 1st. Wow, that was a lot.

Okay, so let me just take a deep breath because it's National Sunkist Citrus Day, Self-Injury Awareness Day, National Minnesota Day, National Dress in Blue Day, National Speech and Debate Education Day, National Dad Gum That's Good Day, National Employee Appreciation Day, Global Day of Unplugging, National Read Across America Day, National Horse Protection Day, National Fruit Compote Day. Wait, there's more. National Pig Day and National Peanut Butter Lovers Day. It is, wow, March 1st. It's like they were holding their breath. Yeah, a little congested. A little congested.

Yeah. All at once. Oh, man. Oh, I wonder if that's why Schoolboy Q put out his album today, because it's National Dress in Blue Day. That would make sense. Like, maybe? Yeah.

I feel like Schoolboy Q is not checking for the national. I mean, he's such a crip. Secretary's Day, fellas. I don't know, but he's such a crip that I feel like he was like, man, I'm putting blue lifts out on National Dress in Blue Day. I don't know. Is National Dress in Blue Day organized by the crips, though? No, I wouldn't know.

I would guess not. The image looks like a bunch of people in a retirement community wearing different shades of blue. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways. Oh, it's about raising colon cancer awareness. Okay.

This now makes more sense. That's very important. Yes, yes. And that is an epidemic that is striking the country, guys. Younger and younger people are being diagnosed. Wow. I was like, wait, is this a crip thing? Oh, colon cancer.

Okay. Okay. Yep. They're often at, you know, working in parallel purposes, though. The crips and the colon cancer awareness community. Sure, sure. We all know. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Baby, Now We Got Measles.

You know, we used to not have none. So really, fuck Andrew Wakefield. Because, baby, now we got measles that is courtesy of Hanoramic View on the discord in the past yeah yeah

reference to the fact that we have measles now yay thank you anti-vaxxer community and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! What day is it? Is it the 20th? Wait, hold on.

But Brother Jack in the back, Sweet Miles in the front, Cruising through the week until we hit March 1. Suddenly red-blue lights flash us from behind. Loud voice booming, please step out onto the line. Jack preached words of comfort. Miles just hides his eyes. Policeman taps his shades. Did you forget the 29th?

How bizarre. Wow, wow, wow. We're trying to cope with the leap year. We didn't know what day it was. And shout out Zach Van Nusselt. We can't wait four years to use this again. So you know what? I will shoehorn it in on March 1st to recognize the leap year.

The leap day. Oh, man. Yeah. What a day. My kids were on my ass immediately when I woke up just being like, it's leap day. What are we doing? Oof.

Fuck, man. I don't know. You didn't tell me I needed something to be doing. Anyways, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third and fourth seats by the hosts of the wonderful podcast On Theme, where you can hear them discuss everything from

the weaponization of rap lyrics by the legal system to fictional characters they want to reach through the screen and slap it's ease jeff code and katie mitchell hello thank you for having us thanks for stopping by thanks for stopping by thanks for stopping that how are you guys doing yeah how how is it how is it how's it over there in atlanta no in atlanta it's always something going on in Atlanta. Some scam here or there. Is there a scam going on

right now? There will be scams. Other than Cop City? What other scams are they running over there? The parking here is a scam. They sold it to a private company for a hundred years for the low low. And they are taxing out here. Definitely. Wow. Yeah.

We know about that in LA too. They have parking. That's a racket. They have parking lots at the mall. Uh-huh. They have security. What? Yes.

I learned that this weekend. What do you mean the parking lots at the mall got security? At Lenox. There's a parking lot at Lenox where you have to go through security just to get in the parking lot. Oh. Like to stop stealing. Yeah. Because Atlanta thinks everything's a Oh. Like to stop stealing. Yeah.

Because Atlanta thinks everything's a club. That's another scam. Yeah. Everything's so exclusive. Yeah. You got to wait in line to get into the parking lot and to leave the parking lot. I was like, this is dangerous, I feel. Yeah.

They're like, they're checking you. They're like, hold on. The ratios aren't good, man. I can't let you in, man. You need some more ladies with you. Yeah. Otherwise, you can't get your car. Wow.

Okay. So everything is like a, or is it more militarized security not really yeah it's just more like somebody there not letting you out like yeah yeah yeah right right somebody who isn't really qualified to be right right watching anything naturally naturally yeah parking lot gimmicks are yeah we know them well in la don't we jack in our own studio parking lot yeah our studio had for a while somebody who was like you know he he had something going we weren't quite sure but he would always try and hit us up five days early for payment and then like forget that we had paid him at various points. He just, yeah.

He had a lot of plates spinning. It was interesting. He was mean to people. You gotta be nice if you scam me. Yeah, exactly. Bedside manner. I get bedside scammer. Bedside scammer.

I just want to say for the record, though, that I do love Atlanta. I'm actually not one of those folks who says, though, that I do love Atlanta. And I'm actually not one of those folks who says, nobody come here. We're full. I actually think we're not full. Right. And more people can come. But just want to correct the record.

Playing right into the private equity parking company's hands with that one. All right. Well, we're going to get to know you both a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. The Supreme Court will rule on Trump's immunity. They will just do it very, very slowly, almost like they're running interference so that this court, he doesn't have to go to trial before he has a chance to be elected president so we'll talk about that we will of course continue to check in with the developing situation the shitty willy wonka experience that was put on in glasgow how'd i do glasgow glasgow you gotta fight the you gotta fight how you want to phonetically say it when you see T-O-W. Glasgow. Glasgow. Yeah, there's just more details coming out.

We have scripts. AI generated. Yeah. I don't know. Are they AI generated? Are they generated by a genius? It's hard to tell. There is a new villain that probably is going to get their own horror movie who is lurking a chocolatier who lives in the walls.

Yeah. So. Not great world building. Yeah. And we'll talk about VR improving the lives of senior citizens. Virtual reality. Possibly. You know, if private equity doesn't manage to fuck that up, you know, it's a way that technology could actually make people's lives a little bit better.

All of that, plenty more. But first, Yves, Katie, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Or we're also opening it up to what's the most recent thing that you've screencapped? Either, either or. Yeah. What's more revealing? on those screenshots what do we got let me let me look in the screenshot because my search history has been whack okay real whack my screen caps are boring okay did you have one for search history i'm going to look through my

photos my i recently looked up if mike epps has been to jail i saw him on a commercial and i was like i wonder if he's been in jail because he was talking about like oh when you in jail you do this i was like i bet he ain't even ain't even really like that but he had been to jail several times he does a lot of illegal things really he has sold drugs at one point he see he didn't even go to jail for this next one he brought a loaded gun to an airport in indianapolis but he didn't go to jail was he famous at the time yeah he was famous it was just a couple years ago so i think he got some leniency for that yeah they're like so props to him for telling the truth on his um upcoming special okay do they take people to jail for bringing uh guns don't they just take them

because like atlanta's like the biggest airport they because we bought his daughter to jail they did they really frown on it i remember there was a cowboy they really like that's one i i had that same thought i'm like well you just take it away right from them but i remember there was like a football coach in the 90s who kept like multiple times just like kept forgetting not to bring a gun to the airport which is such a funny crime but uh i'm pretty sure he got arrested so i mean if you keep doing it at a certain point it's gonna start to look suspicious yeah yeah because that was that guy madison cawthorne the former congress member i remember he brought a gun, too.

And I think, well, maybe his complexion did some work for him there. But he just had to be like, I now have to go to court for bringing a gun in my carry-on luggage. The guy I was talking about, Barry Switzer, Cowboys coach, arrested after pistol found in bag at Dallas Fort Worth airport. So, okay. I mean, the coach of the Cowboys, like at the Dallas Fort Worth airport, and they still arrested him. I mean, maybe they had a bad season that year and that's all right.

Who could have more power in the state? Right. But that's, yeah, that's might as well be the governor. Wait, in Mike Epps special, was he talking in a way that had you sort of rubbing your chin?

Like, let me, well, to me. So I know Mike Epps' special, was he talking in a way that had you sort of rubbing your chin? Like, let me. Well, to me. So I know Mike Epps, he might have crossed over to being beyond black famous at this point. But I was like, you've been famous for a long time. Like, why? Why are you in jail like that? Like, I don't I don't trust it because you've been famous to me since the 90s.

Right. Right. So I wouldn't expect you to just be like in the streets like where you'd be getting locked up like that. Right. But I was wrong. He proved me wrong. So shout out to him. Congratulations, sir.

Yves, what is something from your search history or from your screen caps? So my screen caps are also boring, but I'll just say something from my search history. It's been a lot of historical figures and things about history lately but um we do have an episode today i was going back and looking at some of the articles we did that were related to the episode we had come out today which is about funerary portraiture and one of those articles was about extreme embalming which is a thing that was like it blew up for just like a really hot second. This was several years ago where people would pose people's bodies in elaborate fashions with like these serious set designs for them to be like put up for their memorial service. And so that's one thing that was from my search history that I was like going back into because of the episode we have coming out today.

Yeah. It's like posed upright, right? Some of them like some of them yeah some of them not like the lady with the wine glass and the alcohol that's the wine that was her legacy that happened when she died because these are telling me about it she's like have you heard that i was like i've never heard about that in my life but then she mentioned that lady with the white glass i was like yep yeah but my favorite my favorite was the guy that came up who uh he was posed playing video games like on an xbox he had an xbox controller in her hand his hand and he had like a sprite and some

high cheetos or something like that they were like this is this man's legacy right right this is what people need to know about him i remember yeah i was actually listening that episode and it was really dope because i i knew initially like james van der zee like from like the harlem renaissance photography that he did but i didn't really know about all of the sort of like funeral images that he took too so i was googling that's in my search history because I was like, I need to see these pictures that we're talking about in this episode. But yeah, that kind of like sort of end of like funeral set up. It's interesting culturally how different countries do things like that, because I also see like in South America, too.

They also do a lot of celebratory things. Like I saw a thing where a younger guy had passed away from like an illness and he was like really into soccer. So his friends like had him score one last goal. And it was kind of wild because it like kind of kicked the ball off of him into a weekend of Bernie's. Yeah. They were carrying his ass. Yeah.

Like how soon after, I mean, you know, I, however, however time, however much time passed, but he was such an avid soccer players,

like team, like got all together for like this sort of, you know, symbolic final goal he could score and that was a little that was a little more animated than i was expecting again it's all about you know like let's remember them how they lived he was he was loved by his team members because i don't think i'll be doing that but that's a testament to how he lived yeah right i think a lot of people will find that pretty irreverent right how would you but what would you do for your extreme embalming?

How would you want to be remembered? What are we doing? My extreme embalming? That's a good question. What do I do? Probably in a yoga pose. That would be cute. Because I practice and I teach yoga.

Okay, but which pose? Even more important. Honestly, which pose? So the body's going to be stiff. Not corpse pose, obviously. You got to do a headstand. You got to do some fly shit. Or like a scorpion handstand, something like that,

which I can't even do in real life. So put me in something I can't do in real life. Why not? Just jam your body into that position. It would be the hardest thing. But honestly, if you love me, come on.

Yeah. I should write that in my will now. Right. If you love me. If you love me, put me in that Scorpion pose. What is,

what's something, Miles, by the way, it sounds like you have an answer to that. What are you posing as? I don't know. Maybe DJing or like playing

an instrument. Yeah. Yeah. Because I think like that, that's like the one thing that makes me feel like in the infinite you know listening to music or playing music so i feel like that that would be a fitting fitting physical pose and for me uh to be jamming or something like that that makes sense i'd be dunking i would have my oh you'd be dunking i'd have my hands connected to the rim with wire there would be some added like kind of tension because you don't know if like my arms might rip off or not you know and right right right again i i'm stealing from eve's idea that like we're you're doing something you

couldn't actually do in life but you're kind of being immortalized that way yeah you probably have to have that that posing stick that they put on statues and museums when the statue is like freestanding and it can't hold itself they have the stick they put up the back side of the statue yeah that would be advisable but i want there to be the tension that there might be a coffin flop style mishap where my body just like falls and it's dramatic and everybody's contingency plans yeah i think i would go with like more on miles aside doing something that you actually do i think i would like to be cooking at my own repass oh you know the repass i used to not i used to not like those because i was like why

is everybody so happy right now but if i'm like you know serving a little collard greens situation and everybody i want to be there i want to enjoy it yeah i like that what would you make what what food would be on the menu something real real soulful gotta put some cornbread some collard greens you know i don't eat meat but i'm gonna let y'all eat it so some turkey legs or something look if it was my family they're gonna be mad if ain't no meat at the repackage i know mine too so so i'm gonna let y'all do y'all big one with the pork and all of that what is uh what's something that you think is underrated? I think being a hater is underrated. And we talked about this in one of our episodes.

Haters really are the impetus to so much. Like if you had somebody hating on you, you just feel like you have to prove them wrong. You have to go so hard. And a lot of things that we have in society, you wouldn't be there without haters, but they get a really bad rap. And I was like, y'all need to like genuinely thank your

haters and not like i'd like to thank my haters but like for real right right right you yeah you gave me a pose yeah your outside opinion of me sort of spurred me on to do something different something great for sure yeah if you were just being nice to me i would have just been sitting around doing nothing i just like in my search history is somebody so sony had this like outspoken critic who just hated all things sony and like criticized everything they did and his he made so many good points when he was criticizing them that they hired him and he became the president of Sony eventually. Whoa! That's not how I thought that was going to end. I know. I was like, what?

So, I mean, truly, you can find a well-informed hater where all their criticism is like, actually, the reason I'm so mad is because they make some really good points then maybe listen to them. Maybe keep them close for reasons other than, you know,

that you're just watching them. Make them your boss. Yeah. I feel like the United States should do that for me. For what do you mean? Right? I'm the biggest hater of the United States. Like,

make me president. President? Yeah. But you don't want to be president though. I would do some stuff that we would not come back from. Same, same. But I was thinking it could be,

this could be, this could be, everybody could just be a hater. Like in the aftermath of the quote unquote great resignation, like everybody could just focus on hating and that'll be our pathway to employment. Yeah. Hey.

I'll take it. We heard it here first. We heard it here first. Plus it's such a thin line. Like whenever somebody gets caught doing something really bad, their first response is always like, I'm not listening to the haters on this. So it's a real thin line between hater and, like, person who is just calling out, you know, horrible behavior.

Yeah, for sure. Especially if, like, you see your fave getting hated on. Sometimes you're like, yeah, they're just hating. But if it's someone you don't like, they're like, it's a very principled critique that person made. Yeah, right, right. The $10 words start coming out. Yeah. It's a principled critique and I will stand by as it's made.

Yves, how about you? What's something you think is underrated? So I think rekindling old friendships is underrated. Oh, underrated, And this is underrated. Underrated. Yes. She's thinking. Yeah, I'm coming for you.

Yeah. Because that would have been how I kind of felt in the past. I was like, you know, it's a new day. It's a new dawn. And I don't need to go back to these old friendships. But, you know, I'm rethinking it now after having communications with, you know, somebody who I used to know's mother today. And she was like, oh, y'all should talk. And I'm like, I'll think about it.

You know, I'll consider it. Because before I'm like, you know, if they're not in my life anymore, then it's for a reason. You know how all the kids say they're in your life for a reason or a season or something like that. Yeah, right. So I don't know if i subscribe to that anymore so that's that's what my underrated it's gonna be okay all right yeah and i actually needed to hear that there there's somebody that i've just been like toying with the idea of like man i should really get back in touch with them i haven't talked to them in years and yeah that that needed to hear that. Thank you very much. What's something you think is overrated? I think biopics are overrated. And this is coming from someone who is,

I love biography in written form. I love it in podcast form. I love it in those forms. But for some reason, I have something against biopics. Like my husband coerced me to go to the Bob Marley biopic the other day. And I'm just, for some reason, it's just something about seeing somebody who looks nothing like the person and sounds nothing like the person. And it's really hard to get somebody's accent down. Like that's not an easy thing to do for the best of actors. There's something that misses the

translation. And I think also it's like very hard to cover a person's story in an hour and 45 minutes in a way that feels really meaningful not that i think it can't be done in that like it's just to me they always come off as mediocre or right or like someone who could do no wrong or something like that like and he was actually the hero of everything right yeah. Yeah. Cause I know there's some complexities there with his life for sure. And also we were hating on the wig. First of all, the first thing I said,

I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Nobody does. That's what I'm like. You couldn't find a Jamaican, a Jamaican actor who already had dreads or something like that. You had to go find this. Isn't he from the UK? I'm so glad. Yeah. I just remember being like, this is trash,

man. Like I can't even, I can't, I can't look at this because the wigs were, the wig was so bad. The wig was a wiggy. Okay. It's always the scalp with locks.

It's the scalp that they get wrong. It's really hard to do. It's always like a helmet with like, it feels like a helmet with some tentacles popping off yes it was giving Tyler Perry wigs if or uh Michonne from Walking Dead yeah yeah it's it's it's that's exactly what it was um and they they try it too like shout out to the wig makers I know it's a hard job I'm not saying that they aren't fully talented and skilled and have been working on their crafts they like tried to they lengthened the lid the wig throughout the movie yeah and all of that and i'm like okay okay all right wow you you did the the guess the church oh okay all right well take your time yeah okay bless your heart you at least you tried uh because

is there is there a thing too like with because we were talking about this i think maybe off mic jack but like some people are just kind of so cool like don't even bother trying to get somebody else to capture that cool on screen like there was like a miles davis uh biopic i'm like you can't this dude is also all over the place you can't just be like yeah now you're miles day or you're bob marley or whatever they're so iconic that you either have to like cast the person who looks the most like them like they did with that tupac one but then that person may not be able to act so yeah then yeah it's you're it's a real like you are trying to thread the thinnest needle and also yeah like it may be like a tupac biography in a hundred years maybe you know like but right now

like when no one remembers yeah when no one remembers and they're just like they've seen the pictures but like the right right now bob marley tupac like way way too soon i feel like yeah it needs some distance and it didn't make it any better that at the end of the Bob Marley film, I don't know if I'm going too hard on this right now. No, go ahead. But at the end of the Bob Marley film, they show like actual footage of Bob Marley. And comparing his energy on stage to the energy that the actor was giving was just miles away. It was like, it was so spirited. was giving was just miles away it was like it was so spirited and you could really see that coming out in the clips and having just seen the actor do it in the film i was like

something was missing that that je ne sais quoi wasn't there yeah right who could have did a good job who chatwick if chatwick was alive i feel like he could play anybody you need an all-time great actor yeah yeah that's what you need like sometimes it works because you have just like an incredible marshall i don't remember he played someone super super high skin i like you better quit it um in that in that yeah i think he did he did pay good marshall i believe but i wasn't mad at it actually yeah yeah what's his oh what's uh kingsley ben adir that's the name of the the actor who played him but yeah Actually, yeah. Yeah. Kingsley Ben-Adir. That's the name of the actor who played him.

But yeah, like I'm sure when you see that juxtaposition of actual Bob Marley footage, it really feels like your parent being like, yeah, we got Bob Marley at home. Don't worry. You're like, oh, yeah. Katie, what's something that you think is overrated? I think Chick-fil-A is overrated. is overrated? I think Chick-fil-A is overrated. And I think once we all band together

and stop eating Chick-fil-A, that's when the revolution will happen. Wow. Because they don't like the gays. Right. They don't like the Blacks for real because the Blacks and Latinos being a back

and not in the front interacting with customers. Wow. The chicken, I haven't had chicken in maybe 10 years. It was good. I ain't gonna hold you. But other people make The chicken. I haven't had chicken in maybe 10 years. It was good. I ain't gonna hold you.

But other people make good chicken. They're not the only ones. And people be acting like they're the only ones just because they say please and thank you and my pleasure. We gotta have higher standards for ourselves. The hard thing about this is that they're expanding. They're expanding like crazy, especially in Georgia. Oh, really? Across the country.

Across the country, yeah. There's like four of them on my exit. Yeah, they're a franchise model and it's like super hard to get into their franchise if they have a specific way of doing it. Oh, it's a franchise model. And they're never going to IPO.

They're never going to go public. Right. I don't know how. But I believe it. If you believe it, I believe it. The revolution is revolution gonna start right right when we give up chick-fil-a when people can like yeah the first principled consumer decision like the entire country can collectively make they'll be like aside from the morality the

chicken also like popeyes is better man when i was in the atlanta studio that's by delilah's uh i had a chicken sandwich from there that blew my socks right off my feet. Like I saw that I was like a Willy Wonka exhibit. But yeah, that was definitely like, yeah, I think it's just one of those things. And I said this before when I think, was it Dulce Sloan who maybe or somebody was talking about it or maybe it was Dr. John. Anyway, somebody was also saying was coming with that overrated. And it's probably one of our most common overrated. And yeah, I think it's time. I, it's probably one of our most common overrateds. Yeah.

Yeah, I think it's time. It's like one of those things, too, because in the West Coast, we never had it. So when it came on the West Coast, it was like what In-N-Out is to other places. Like, Chick-fil-A's here, the thing I heard about from my relatives that live in the South or the East Coast or whatever. And yeah, and I think once that subsides,

maybe people can you know we can all band together you can break just the novelty needs to wear off a little bit yeah yeah yeah and i think if anybody katie and i are actually from the land of truett kathy spent a lot of time growing up there where he uh lived and i think if anybody can do it we can do it because we can be like yeah we have original claim for the land of the chick-fil-a and if we can do it anybody in this country can do it you know i went on a field trip to chick-fil-a ranch in elementary school what's chick-fil-a ranch i don't know if it still exists it was so fun they had um i'm just picking them up now they got you with the propaganda yeah they're like we actually you know second thought i love I love Estruet, Kathy.

It was so fun. It was like, they had, I guess it was like a cow sanctuary, something. Cause you know, they don't. Oh,

right. Right. Yeah. And they had like those, like, um, what do they call it? Conestoga wagons. Conestoga.

Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Conestoga wagon. The people going West was, that were in. Uh, so we slept in those it was an overnight trip mind you wow i think we did s'mores we like cooked on the fire it was real fun that does sound fun i'll do that today we should look at it let me change my overrated

actually they're underrated chick-fil-a ranch is underrated yeah the restaurant yeah i think i've talked about this before but i got as an award in middle school i got to go on this field trip and it was just to the long john silver's headquarters like corporate headquarters so it's like the worst version of your field trip. Right. Not even like they didn't have any fun themed thing. You just like sat and watched them go through some spreadsheets and then got to eat. Oh, no. Yeah.

They need to work on their propaganda game. Yeah. I think it would be pretty cool if they would have showed you all the different kinds of fish that go into the amalgamation. What actually? Yeah. Right. you all the different kinds of fish that go into the to make the amalgamation what actually yeah yeah right we actually shop at a pet store to get this stuff put together yeah that would be wild if they admitted that it's just poor memory for sure goldfish mash is what you're actually getting oh man all right well that's disgusting sorry to leave it on that note uh but we are going to take a quick break and we're going to come back and we're going to talk some news we'll

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Sorry for the long delay. the crows are back but thanks everybody for the for the advice on uh basically bribing them with nuts i've put a bowl of almonds in my backyard so far it seems to be kind of working but uh they are gathering they are gathered and i think they're yeah well more updates in the future. An evolving story. Like I said, we're going to get to some important news. And that was it. My crows are back.

In the backyard. No, the Supreme Court has announced they're going to rule on Trump's immunity. They're going to do it very, very slowly, this is essentially the like playing along with his plan for, you know, to delay everything until he's president. And then he can start punishing his enemies and throwing all this shit out of court, essentially. Yeah, it's a I mean, I think the whole time we were wondering, we're like, well, all every other lower court was out of hand rejecting the argument that there is such thing as God mode when you're president. And they're like, yeah, yeah, you you can actually be convicted of a crime. What are you talking about here? But, yeah, as it stands, the Supreme Court is basically saying they will hear.

April 22nd is when they will begin the proceedings to hear the fucking case when I think any normal court would have just affirmed the lower court's decision be like yeah what'd they say yeah yeah yeah yeah why do I need why am I wasting my time but yeah we were always wondering how will the Supreme Court show itself to be completely biased and illegitimate and the laughingstock and yeah we're starting to see it by slow rolling this thing because this will drag everything on to the point that the Jack Smith trial probably wouldn't happen in time at all. Or at all. I mean, he had already asked the Supreme Court to weigh in on this issue

back in December because he knew that this was a possibility. And Trump's lawyers objected. It's, I don't know. I'm no legal expert. This all just seems very fucking dumb. So it's very dark.

That's my legal read on the situation. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks for that. Yeah. All very fucking VFD. We already know that's my, that's the,

uh, the conclusion we've come to. But yeah, I mean like this is the thing also because even if they do you know come to a decision and they say you know what actually no you do not have immunity we all know about how the doj if we remember in 2016 they'll be like we don't like to do anything that could be seen as political 60 days out from election right and but hillary clinton we can make a special case for like they did

with that fbi thing that happened within 60 days of the election so it's really yeah it i guess the only terrible silver lining here is that if the supreme court were to affirm like what trump's argument is that there is such thing as the star from super Mario brothers, uh, that makes you immune from criminal prosecution. Then I guess Joe Biden is free to do literally whatever the fuck he wants to also hold onto power. But this is just like the most grim timeline. Either way you look at it.

Yeah. Hold on to power for two more months of his life. Yeah. Right. However long, however long, on to it hold on to it maybe it's like an immortality thing maybe it's like a one-up thing in addition to the in addition to this oh yeah yeah yeah the mushroom makes him younger maybe i don't feel like this is

going to that they're going to rule for trump on this, right? Like all of the lower courts that have looked at this have said that, no, this is like open and shut. Why are we even looking at this? Of course, president doesn't mean you can do whatever you want. But I think from the way the Supreme Court seems to like to do things where they're like, oh, we do a horrifying thing and then,

but hey, we're still over here. Feels like this will give them a chance to at least have the appearance that they're ruling against Trump on something. While also essentially running interference for him to let him buy time until he has a chance to be president. Right. In which case. Yeah. He'll just tell the doj to drop all the charges right yeah and so it has uh everybody loses i guess in this instance right yeah it

feels like that like i said november take your time take your time right take your time please take it all right did you guys catch the the willy wonka experience in glasgow i did see it okay yeah so you're terminally unhealthily online yeah i mean i only saw a smidge not too much yeah but but you're familiar with the terrible bait and switch that they pulled on people being like i would have gotten tricked too really from the ai pictures you think yeah i like, oh, you cannot lie this much. Right. I can see you could lie a little bit. You put a little extra on it, but you can't lie this much.

Right, right, right, right, right, right. The way they did. That was a 90-second total time. Or not time limit, but that's how long it took for people to get through the whole thing was about 90 seconds. And then they were handing out one jelly bean per kid for them because they ran out of yeah it got grim but they're magical jelly beans right miles yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah because i call them that that's they're magical then just trust me on this now give me my 45 dollars um but yeah the one thing that's clear after like looking at the whole willy wonka thing here is like the A.I.

This A.I. like based on the images and everything, it's enabling the worst thoughts of morally unscrupulous people. Like the use of A.I. to make marketing materials was clearly like a huge help in getting people into the door. But now we're hearing that the actors that were hired to be part of this quote unquoteunquote experience were also given scripts that were also ai generated nonsense allegedly no one has come no one has confirmed or denied that ai was used chat gpt i apparently they said they took like it's hard for us to know because it's so poorly written that yeah it could be ai right or it could just be so poorly written there was like there's some there's just a lot of new things we're learning about there was some villain character that made kids

cry during this thing called the unknown and it was just a person in like a silver spray-painted mask i mean it is yeah it is terrifying it's grim like soul chilling yeah do you have the clip in here where like somebody's like what is this now and then this fucker comes out from behind a mirror and yeah just and you hear the kids immediately go no no no yeah it's the sound of like trauma setting in yeah the sound of upset kids that definitely makes it a little bit hard to like be like oh no and like the parents it's also in those videos you see the parents trying to be like this is okay yeah yeah with but on the inside they're like i'm gonna fuck somebody up for charging me this amount of money i heard they called the police some of them yeah they did what is the police

supposed to do some of the police while they were there yeah yeah i don't know what were they gonna do i mean i think just be like yeah i don't know you want us to do like the it's a scam i mean i guess we could tell you that uh but as it stands the the company that put it on says they are giving people refunds we still don't know the state of that we do know that the actors have not been paid yeah so that may be a bit of foreshadowing the actor the quote from the actor on the unknown is the bit that got me was where i had to say there is a man we don't know his name we know him as the unknown this unknown is an evil chocolate maker who lives in the walls yeah who lives in the walls is like so specific and creepy and a thing that like your child

imagination like makes up already and so you know like oh yeah there's somebody who lives in your walls oh here here every time you hear your house settle a little bit or something you're like oh no this is the clip of the just poor guy pretending to be i think willie mcnichol or something obviously because for trademark reasons they could not say wonka yeah and he is out here telling this is the part where he tells kids about the unknown also was that like a diana ross wig Look at this dude. Also, was that like a Diana Ross wig? It was giving races.

Yeah. Or maybe it was maybe. Yeah. I mean, that's where my mind goes all the time. I assume there are racist underpinnings to things. It's giving people under the stairs too, you know, like in the walls. Yeah. And just coming out from a Target mirror mirror like a door mirror being like ah ah yeah you know this might be someone who is actually against ai trying to show everybody

to read the alarm yeah yeah they're flipping it a little bit right i'm sure you saw the picture of the the woman playing the oompa loompa because i think that was sort of kind of encapsulated the entire experience this poor lady she said when she got there nothing resembled a legitimate production of any kind the costumes she thinks were used other people were like they were like cheap sexy oompa loompa costumes and they were like i'm glad i brought tights and a t-shirt otherwise like my business would have been hanging all the way out while i'm trying to do like a children's performance and again when she got the script too she's like some of this stuff doesn't make sense the organizer said hey just just improvise just improvise and that's the part that makes me feel partially that this was definitely ai generated like, wouldn't you want the actors you were, I guess, allegedly going to pay

to sort of like execute your creative vision? You know what I mean? Rather than just being like, fuck it, just say whatever the fuck you want. I don't know. They had a captive audience. Yeah. So here's the thing.

We do have a little, a few excerpts from, I actually downloaded the whole script. Someone uploaded it to the internet that all the actors got. And I'm also like so i'm looking at this there's a lot of interesting stuff uh so there's one one thing is clear when you look at it for me it feels very computer generated and those details will be kind of self-apparent uh when we read it but also this production would have won a fucking tony award

for how out like how out there some of these special effects were supposed to be as sort of described in the script this is from a part it says this is from a scene where they go into this enchanted forest it says parenthetical uh jack do you want to read wonky doodle and i'll be willie mcduff aka so this is a parenthetical audience members engage with the interactive flowers offering compliments to which the flowers respond with prerecorded whimsical thank yous. So there are flowers that speak in this production, like just keeping in mind that when you got there, it looked like just the grimmest room where like multiple crimes have taken place. Like in this person's vision, it is a place where there are flowers that are kind of challenging the technology,

like the bounds of technology. And then we cut to me, wonky doodle one, saying to a guest, oh, and if you see a butterfly, whisper your sweetest dream to it. They're our official secret keepers and dream carriers of the garden. And then Willie McDevitt says, in parenthetical, gathering everyone's attention. Now, I must ask, has anyone seen the elusive bubble bloom?

It's a rare flower that blooms just once every blue moon and fills the air with shimmering bubbles. The stage crew discreetly activates bubble machines, filling the area with bubbles, causing excitement and wonder among the audience. That's why I think it's AI. When you start saying how people are going to react to it, that is not direction. I think this is just somebody who is... On cocaine? Yeah. They expect this to go exactly how they have it in their little... They are overdosed on whimsy and just believe that they can create magic just by hoping that it happens.

Sorry, Wonky Doodle 2, not to be confused with my previous character, Wonky Doodle 1. Or Oompa Loompa. Pretending to catch bubbles. Quick, each bubble holds a whisper of enchantment. Catch one and make a wish willie mcduff as the bubble catching frenzy continues remember in the garden of enchantment every moment is a chance of magic every corner hides a story and every bubble catches a bubble holds a dream parenthetical he opens his hand and the bubble gently pops releasing a small twinkling

light that ascends into the rafters, leaving the audience in awe. There's no way you could do this shit at all. You can't do that on Pandora at Disney World. How the fuck did you think that was going to happen? Among Us has never oversold

their abilities. I know. This feels pretty identifiable, but the wishful thinking in the script is just really... It just gives you a head... The difference between what they had in mind and the grim vibe of the actual room

gives me a head rush. It's so just unbelievably different yeah yeah but i think the other thing it's like it this to your point katie i think in a way it really makes clear what like how people are going to use ai like especially for people in decision making positions because i feel like they were probably people who put this on probably so wowed and razzled like yo i just said this thing and it came up with all these wild ideas like a flight a light will go to the rafters out the bubble like we don't need people no more like i and i can see how someone in a c-suite who would who has no experience writing or doing anything creative would see that and be like yo

this is it this is it like you know it's a wrap on paying people to have actual ideas so again like our guests on tuesday's episode said resist the urge to be impressed by ai folks right but yeah to your point jack or i think our i think katie russell's saying like you know we we we will oversell ourselves you know we'll fake it till we make it but it also feels like that is kind of like the refrain that you hear from scammers when they get caught. They'll do some version of like, it's just so I'm just so disappointed in what what came out. You know, I really wanted it to be something special for the kids. And instead, they got a big old con job. And I feel bad about that because this guy who put it on, he also apparently got in trouble in 2021 for having a Santa's grotto event.

I don't know why Santa needs a grotto. Oh my gosh, he's a serial scammer. Right, a Grotto. Isn't that more associated with like a Krampus or something like that? Yeah, yeah. Isn't it like a cave enclosure type thing? I just think of like the sordid Grotto from the Playboy Mansion which is like a hidden pool.

But like, apparently he canceled this event once people donated gifts and stuff and money like just canceled it so he has the santa one oh yeah the santa guy from a house of illuminati productions oh is the name of his company there was no there was no way to tell that this was in any way off is house spelled h-a-u-s? No, no. House? No, no. I'm not going full scammer with that one. No, but with scamming, you have to have a code of ethics. Like, you can't be out here scamming little kids like this.

If you're going to scam, you need to scam the United States government. You need to scam Walmart. Scam multinational corporations. Why are you scamming families that use their hard-earned money to give their kids a little experience? Because money is money. These people are not thinking with logic. That's why they'll always get caught up. You need to get a PPP loan. I know this wasn't in the United States, but you could scam a PPP loan. You know what this sounds like to me, right? I mean, courses are really hot right now. You could sell an online course about scamming.

Me? You're right. Thank you. Yeah, there you go. You're like, here's what you're going to do. You're going to set up a defense contractor company to work with the Pentagon. And trust me, they will just turn the money hose on for anybody. Exactly. I mean, this sort of like Fyre Fest-esque pop culture fandom-based scam definitely predates AI. I'm not sure that

definitely the artwork that they sent out had something to do with AI. No, I'm saying more people are going to try it because of it. Definitely. It's easy for them to just shoot copy out. But back in 2019,

people paid $50 for a Harry Potter themed event and the wand making station was a table with scattered chopsticks and glitter and the magical cocktail was gin and tonics and rum and cokes. The wand making station has a sign that is just a whiteboard with wand making station written on it. I do like the addition of the stars. Yeah, they put some razzle dazzle on you. You know how quickly those stars were drawn? You can tell by the shape of the stars.

Someone just went, fuck it. Let me just zhuzh this up. And they really have like Chinese restaurant like to go chopsticks. Like still in the wrapper. Saying wand making station. With lotus candles. Like the little tiny candles to be fair true to

material though it is wood so that's appropriate if your mom is doing it for your friends you know like we're gonna have a little harry potter moment and your mom does that it's like okay your mom she really cared about y'all but right paying for that 50 bucks no no no. But the same deal as this one, that one just came back to one person who claimed, I'm not a scammer, I just didn't nail all the details. Which implies, like, I nailed some of the details.

Come on, give me some credit here. Did you see the stars on the whiteboard? Can we go back there? Did you not hear my lawyer? Did you not hear my lawyer? The chopsticks are made of wood. Much like the Elder Wand from Harry Potter. So the rest of my case, Your Honor.

No further questions, Your Honor. No further questions, Your Honor. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some good, a good side of technology. We'll be right back. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian,

now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading

with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea,

but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine,

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On the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast, I get the chance to do what I love, talk about how tennis and other women's sports are growing and changing, and what the future holds. I think I just genuinely loved what I did. I love this waking up, putting on my sports gear. I still believe it was so rewarding. Maybe you can relate to it as well. As a woman, I think it's a very powerful feeling to have a job at which you're able to see improvements in real time. On the show, we dissect everything going on in the game straight from the biggest players in the world. Plus, serve up recaps of all the matches and headlines in the game,

including a rundown of the US Open every Monday. Listen to the Renee Stubbs Tennis Podcast every Monday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. And we're back. We are back. And we are, of course, inundated with stories about people wearing Vision Pro while driving a car or operating a forklift loaded with nitroglycerin. But it's worth noting that virtual reality can be a less stupid thing.

Because there's a recent Stanford study that showed that VR had a big impact in nursing homes, where seniors chose from virtual experiences ranging from riding in a tank to which you know a five my five-year-old would absolutely what what does that mean like recapture glory days from like the war yeah riding in a tank and then doing what yeah but just yeah i don't want to know yeah playing with puppies and kittens to visiting countries like Paris or Egypt. Countries like Paris. That might be our bad. That might be a mistake in the copy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the study found that 60% of the seniors felt less isolated socially thanks to VR. 75% of caregivers said residents' moods improved after using the VR. I see that. Yeah. I mean, in talking about AI and a lot of the technology that's emerging right now, we've kind of hit on this general theme that when it's something that you're playing with, it can be fun. And if that's all you're looking for is like a fun thing to play with and like that seems to be where the technology has promise uh when it's being used to like systemically like take people's jobs or like replace human beings it doesn't work very well or make medical

decisions or make medical decisions yeah because it does remind me of like i remember there are always these videos that would go viral like 10 years ago of like a person in like a nursing home and like they would hear the music from their childhood and like you would just see their eyes light up and suddenly like they were talking and like they had a lot to do and it's called reminiscence therapy. Yeah. So it's interesting to see something like that kind of taken to the next level where it's like, no, put these goggles on and like, guess where we are? We're back in that tank, baby. Back in that tank where you first fell in love. Right, right, right.

But yeah, I mean, I think that this it is one of those things where it's like a bit of a, you know, it's like when you start talking about nursing homes, like you also there's also like huge issues with nursing homes, even as we've talked about on this show, like with private equity coming in and completely like diluting the care that is available to people and how it's like subpar and like leaves people in terrible situations. and leaves people in terrible situations. Yeah. So it's like, can we get the people paid more too? Because I feel like the lazy thing, like, man, you know how we're going to get things better? Just give these people VR goggles. They don't need real ones.

It's giving black mirror. It feels like an easier way to neglect. It's like a direct path to more neglect. Woo! Could you imagine? Yeah. I also saw one lady saying she wanted to go back to the 1960s. I was like, why, white lady? Why do you wanted to go back to the 1960s i was like why white lady why do you want to go back to the 1960s i mean yeah but to be fair that that does happen with people when they get older like or she wants to go back to them segregated lunch counters

no i'm not allowing it i believe that i believe i believe that but too i do think it could be helpful like because a lot of the times they do go back at the end of their lives, back to situations. And it's kind of hard to deal with as a person who's a caretaker or who's coming to visit people and they're having those visions, basically. It's like, what do I say? I'm not there with them. So I think having that as a supplemental aid when you are actually spending time with them and you're having those experiences could be pretty... Supplemental is the key word, I think, as opposed to replacing. The whole plan of care. I think we did an interview with somebody who's an expert on all the ways that private equity has just like come through and destroyed a number of different american industries and companies and this was i think like the main or like one of the three industries that the book like really focused on and was just like they they came through they took over a bunch of these companies that ran nursing homes and slashed budgets to to inoperable levels

and then you know when those nursing homes go out of business the private equity companies have already extracted fees and end up doing okay because you know they have these massive contracts and these like byzantine arrangements where they like secretly own the company without like outwardly without anybody like really even knowing their name and so yeah i like on the one hand nursing the you know elderly care industry has a really bad name but i think it's because we've just come through this period where private equity ravaged it. And so,

yeah, I'm hoping that there is a possible future where, you know, that gets corrected. And these are supplemental, like you said, instead of just a thing that they're like, all right,

we can fire five nurses and just because we bought, because we bought a VR headset. Yeah. Fight over it. Yeah. I like Katie's idea though. Maybe if that person's like, I want to go back to reconstruction America.

Oh yeah. Let me load up a memory for you real quick. And I was just completely fuck with them. It's like black people are running everything. And you load up an image of the unknown, the kid who lives in the walls. You load up an image of the unknown, the evil candy maker who lives in the walls. What's up?

I got Diana Ross wig on. Now that's the Black Mirror episode, for sure. There you go. My thing with all this technology is, it's like no one really needs this, but we do need universal healthcare. Right, right.

But I think we're in that place with a lot of technology today it's like we're moving beyond the point of necessity and into the point of just we're just figuring out shit to do with all this but we don't have the necessities at all no we don't have that part yeah move to it but they have you feeling like what you need is an apple vision pro set like no what i need your reality what i need is an Apple Vision Pro set. Right. Like, no, what I need. To get out of your reality. What I need is my insurance company to cover my meds. Right. What I need is affordable housing. Yeah.

Well, you know. Well, while we wait on those, wouldn't it be nice to take a vacation to the country of Paris? Yeah. The great nation of Paris. Oh, man. All right. Well, Katie, Eves, truly such a pleasure having you both on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

You can follow us on Instagram at onthemeshow. You can also hit us up via email at hello at ontheme.show. You can also find all the show notes at on theme dot show and um go listen to the podcast on things about black storytelling it's really awesome you'll probably find some stuff if you're interested in blackness if you're interested in storytelling and just storytelling in general you'll probably find something you love there um personally i'm on instagram at not apologizing and uh did i get it all, Katie? You got it. Katie, are you anywhere on social

media? No. Personally? Alright. The ghost. There you go. That's why you're so happy, I feel like. And is there a work of media that you guys have been enjoying? I have been going back and watching the old UFCs lately.

Like the first seven or something like that. Yeah. Like starting from the beginning. This was the, I'm not really a sports watcher at all. It's something that my husband got me into over the years. But like, it's been very entertaining because it's just like, it's that one, it just feels very primitive. All of the old, like seeing that segment of time and period in media when things were so irreverent didn't make any sense a lot of things were stupid honestly a lot of the

things that people said had made no sense and also like going and looking into some of the people's history who fought for the UFC and it's very problematic in those early years and the commentators god i mean yeah it's it's been like an escapism mode for me and something that's like very far away from all of the other serious historical philosophical things that i'm focused on a lot of the time yeah those those early like fights are so wild to watch because you're like, I think a truck driver is fighting a karate man. Yeah. Literally, their theme, they used to have themes back in the day. And one of the themes I just watched was David versus Goliath, where they purposely put people together who are in absolutely different weight classes.

It would be like a 600 pound person and a 250 pound person and it was just it was there are some i could go on forever about this because there are so many things about the marketing and the the ways that they set up the shows that you could really tell they were trying to find their footing and they had no fucking clue and one thing i will say that it teaches me is that like if if those people if those white men could like be like i think i want to do this thing where different disciplines fight each other and i don't know what i'm doing but we're gonna put it on television right and it really makes no sense and i feel like i can do anything like it's been very motivational for me right i used to rent those at blockbuster like that was those early ufc specials were like available to rent those at Blockbuster. Like that was those early UFC specials were like available to rent.

Yeah. Yeah. Because I remember that was the only way to watch them. Really? Yeah. I saw a bootleg one and I was like, what the fuck is this? I'm like, how come? I'm like, how come the other guy is wearing like a gi, like a uniform?

And I'm like, and this guy, his name is Tank Abbott. Okay. This is all very. Yeah. Yeah. It's hilarious highly recommend honestly i was not expecting that i didn't recommend watch the early ufc i mean you know you get you get the discipline and you get the like people who actually know how to fight in mma these days when you watch it and also you get way more diversity like watching women watching people who like, watching Black people.

You know, there are a lot of things that have changed over time. Like in me having started watching it later and going back and seeing how they did it before. It's been enlightening to say the least. What about you, Katie? I've been reading this collection

of short stories called Neighbors and Other Stories by Diane Oliver. And it was published recently and posthumously. She died in 1966 at the age of 22 while she was on a motorcycle. And a lot of her work had been pretty much forgotten until like 2021, I believe, when someone just found her one of her short stories in an anthology and wrote about her. And that led to her being republished. So I always find it like super interesting when writers are published posthumously, like would they have like these stories together? How do

they feel about it? She was 22. So she didn't have any kids or anything. So it's her sister and nieces who she never met doing her estate stuff. But it's a collection of stories about Jim Crow era people who are integrating certain situations, whether it's school or lunch counters. But it's kind of showing the side of it's not always a positive thing to be a part of history. If you were Ruby Bridges, what is that actual toll on you as a little kid right and not just like oh i'm a part of history i'm i'm changing things for the better but like as a person how does it feel to be in such these like tumultuous times um so it's a really interesting thing and

like i said she died in 1966 so she was writing it as like contemporary stories and not like historical fiction right right right yeah yeah that's an amazing recommendation which uh which ufc is your favorite uh did any of the davids win by the way i'm always curious about honestly that's a good question i feel like the goliaths won most of the time. That would be funny if it was Goliaths just chalked down. I don't know if it was the whole time. I got to go.

Look, I'm not mad at a second watch. I'll go back and watch seconds. I can really get the stats down. Also, the stats that they used to use, they made no sense. One was like thinker. I was like, what does that have to do with? What does him being a thinker have to do with anything? In this one, we have Shaq versus a child.

Yeah. Oh, Shaq won. Damn. Shaq lost. But yeah, the weight didn't work for them all the time. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work in media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me at Miles of Grey on all the social platforms. You can find

us, Miles and Jack, on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack on Matt Boosies. You can also find me on my 90 Day Fiance podcast. 420 Day Fiance. And let's see. A tweet I like is from Ellie Cremendall. At Ellie Cremendall tweeted. So weird when you meet a girl with the same name as your sister.

Because they're like hi I'm Jenna. And you're like no you are not. I'm sorry but you are not. That's that energy. Yeah. hi, I'm Jenna. And you're like, no, you are not. I am sorry, but you are not. It's that energy. Yeah. That's how people say they have my mom's name. I'm like, don't come meet with this.

That's not you. It's my mom's name. Incorrect. I've been enjoying the clip of Richard Lewis when he was 16 on a candid camera. Just a lot of good Richard Lewis clips. RIP to him. you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our

episodes and our foot notes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles is there a song that you think people might enjoy yeah uh kate bollinger is a vocalist uh from virginia and like just again these artists who kind of go with that throwback style when like you listen to you're like was this recording in the 70s or is this now one of those kind of contemporary retro artists this track is called untitled and yeah like it's just a just a really nice you know take this track into your weekend relax uh just you know just melt away into a world of pure imagination as they say at willie mcnichols chocolate

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