The Daily Zeitgeist - Surely THIS Will Ruin Trump (Part 3,265), The Most 2011 Movie of 2011 9.7.20

Episode Date: September 8, 2020

In episode 710, Jack and guest host Jamie Loftus are joined by comedian Danielle Radford to discuss Trump being cartoonish-ly bad at being president and offending the troops, Boss Baby InteractiveThe ...Smurfs, and more!FOOTNOTES: Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’ Top Military Officers Unload on Trump Report: Trump disparaged US war dead as ‘losers,’ ‘suckers’ Donald Trump Is Rush-Shipping Condolences to Military Families WATCH: Someone To Love - Stephen Marley Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:08 A production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say officially off the top, fuck the Koch brothers, fuck Fox News, fuck Rush Limbaugh, fuck Buck Sexton, fuck Ben Shapiro, okay fuck buck sexton fuck ben shapiro and fuck tucker carlson it's tuesday september 8 2020 my name is jack o'brien aka no one knows what it's like to be the rad man To be the dad man Behind white thighs
Starting point is 00:02:47 And no one knows what it's like To be graded Second rated On the zeitgeist That is courtesy of Rusty Shackleford Or Shacklefid Great, that made me That That made me, that AK made me re-examine what a
Starting point is 00:03:08 whiny song that is. By the who. Nobody thanks I know I'm not supposed to talk yet, but please tell me that you have heard the Fred Durst cover. Oh yeah, yeah. It was for the movie Gattaca, and at the end of it, he gets
Starting point is 00:03:24 to make out with Halle Berry I believe at the end of the video? I think so Fred Durst? he definitely has a video where at the end he gets to make out with Halle Berry and like whatever and he definitely did a cover of Behind Blue Eyes these could be completely separate videos but yeah
Starting point is 00:03:39 he really had his moment didn't he? he really did it is weird to put myself in a place where I'm like, yeah, Fred Durst. Like Halle Berry would agree to kiss Fred Durst. It's just a strange mindset to put yourself in. You're just like, I guess there was a point in time. It's just one of those days. We were just talking on a recent episode connecting, um, the toxic masculinity of the
Starting point is 00:04:08 seventies with the toxic masculinity of like the late nineties, early two thousands. Uh, and just like how white men were just given this like carp launch and they always use it to be sexual predators and pedophiles. And that's just because the 70s rocker, nobody knows how hard it is to be the lead singer of the world's biggest rock band. And then Fred Durst comes back and is like, nobody appreciates my talent. I'm an artiste.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Now I'm going to make out with holly and it was it was his cover it was his cover of behind blue eyes for hell yeah where he makes out with holly berry i was thinking of gattaca you're talking is it gattaca or gothica i don't i think gothica makes way more sense i've seen one of those but i't know. But it's impossible to say which. I was thinking of the Ethan Hawke one where. That's Gattaca. Yeah, that's Gattaca. I was like, that is strange that they went with a Durst cover for that movie. Then I've seen Gothica.
Starting point is 00:05:15 Hey, who are those voices? I'll tell you who they are, listener. I'm thrilled to be joined by my special guest co-host, the very face of Mount Zite Moore. She is Lil Zam, Jamie Loftus! If you like me, Jamie Loftus, and saying COVID in May. If you like riding Zambonis and going out in the rain. If you like canvassing for leftists on the streets of L.A. Then I'm that co-host you've looked for.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Please don't at me today. That's a fun one. That is a fun one. That's a fun one. That's from at Klopfenpop. Klopfenpop. Klopfenpop. That sounds vaguely Scandinavian.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Like it could be an Ikea piece of furniture. What I know is that they're a skilled songwriter. Yes. That's all I can speak to. That is clear. Jamie, how are you doing? I'm good. I just got home yesterday. Hey, welcome are you doing? I'm good. I just got home yesterday.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Hey, welcome back. Thanks. I'm great. Yeah, so I'm just very happy to be home. Yeah, yeah. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented and brilliant Danielle Radford. Bing, bing, bing.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Those are a lot of descriptions. Hey! My daughter! Yeah! And it is her birthday! Yes, I did it. I was born. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:06:55 You were born on the same day as presumably a lot of people, but one Bey Beyonce Knowles, as Super Producer Anna Hosnier pronounced it, same day, same year. Yep, same day, same year. Pretty cool. We both look great. Yeah. I think that entitles you to a hang. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:07:18 for sure. That's a special bond. Yeah. That's a case to be made. Miles has talked about how he is birthday brothers with prince hair uh harry is his name right i almost called him henry but yeah prince harry uh so and he he really does
Starting point is 00:07:33 seem like he believes he deserves to hang out with him he's like yo hit me up we're born on the same day so yes you know we should we should kick it uh have you have you ever had any interaction with Beyonce? I have not. That it is,
Starting point is 00:07:52 it is a meeting of the minds that I guess we'll just have to wait to happen. One person now he was not born on our exact birthday, but Xavier Woods, the wrestler is also a September four baby. Yeah. So that's really nice. There's a couple good ones man some uh uh some real classy parents just just fucking getting it in right between christmas and
Starting point is 00:08:11 new year's um just fucking banging it out uh that is humanity's uh like uh what's that called mating season uh is the between christmas and new years uh like when you look at when birth spike uh that's the most common you are in the range of the most common birthdays um because we're all stuck inside uh i was i was birthday sex for sure i did the math when i was like 14 i was like oh that's a bummer i don't know my parents like to they didn't really mix things up they're like oh it's your birthday okay i guess we better have sex that's how i imagine it going right all right danielle we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners just a couple of things we're're talking about. We're going to talk about how Donald Trump is
Starting point is 00:09:08 truly cartoonishly bad at being a conservative president with regards to his feelings about the troops. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about what his miracle cure convalescent plasma plan has to say about just his general outlook on what his role is as a leader. We're going to talk about Batman being sick. We're going to talk about the Smurfs, of course, and Boss Baby. Boss Baby Interactive. Yeah, yeah. Sorry. I should have called him by his full name there's boss baby movie there's boss baby tv show and now to complete the trilogy is boss baby interactive yes yes the children like the boss baby i don't know yeah well Yeah. Well, uh, Pueyde toy capitalism is adorable. Um,
Starting point is 00:10:08 seven days to live. Uh, Danielle, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I looked up blue chew. Um, blue chew is a, it is a,
Starting point is 00:10:20 a dick pill product for, uh, for keeping, keeping your dick hard. And they advertise on a lot of wrestling programs, like a lot of wrestling podcasts. And I have a friend who, uh, told me the story about how one night he took some blue chew. Uh, uh, it is a delightful story. It is not mine. I hope to get him on my wrestling podcast to talk about it but yeah a
Starting point is 00:10:45 friend of mine took some blue chew and so i i looked up i looked up exactly what blue chew is and how blue chew works and i'm still not sure but uh according according to jim ross uh it'll make your dick so hard like a cat could scratch it so that's so hard like a cat could scratch it. So that's something. So hard like a cat could scratch it. Uh-huh. Interesting. Like one of those cat posts. Yeah. Now I got it in my head.
Starting point is 00:11:11 As someone with many cat scratch posts around my home, the implications of that are devastating. It's incredibly upsetting. Wrestlers have very lively talk. uh talk but yeah i i if you listen to in particular the jim ross podcast he will talk for too many minutes about what blue chew has done for him and his dick and too many minutes is is one is one minute one is too many um but he will go in for like five minutes just talking about how great Blue Chew is
Starting point is 00:11:48 so that he can sex ladies. Yeah, cool. Is it chew like gum, chew like a soft chewable thing, or just chewable in the Flint flintstones vitamin sense do we know um let's find out i believe um oh gosh now i'm on their official site they should just pay me i'm like maybe there's some listeners that are like no hold on did someone say a cat could scratch it yeah did you just say a cat could i believe it's, oh, it looks like it almost looks like Smarties.
Starting point is 00:12:26 Okay. It almost looks like a Smartie. Yeah. Interesting. So chewable. I wonder what they taste like. We'll be getting some for my family. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:12:36 You need to. That's, yeah, I'm curious what it tastes like. Is it flavored like blue raspberry, are we thinking? Yeah, it's interesting. We'll have to taste test some Blue Chew at some point. Yeah, you should absolutely do that on the air and then stay on air for however long it takes for Blue Chew to not be in your system anymore.
Starting point is 00:12:59 It's like that radio broadcast where they had a water chugging contest and someone died. Yeah, the lady died. Someone died. It was the week for a week. Yes, yes, yes. Oh, that's, you know, the things people do for content. Radio is scary. Radio kills people a lot, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Radio is very scary, yeah. Because it's like unregulated to a large degree. Kind of miss it. What is something you think is overrated? Oh, gosh. We don't need to call Donald Trump orange anymore. We all get it. We all get it.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Unless you can find a really interesting way to call him orange. Like, I don't need to hear about how he's a pumpkin, I don't need to hear about how he's a pumpkin. I don't need to hear about how he's a Cheeto. Damn it. I was just going to say the Cheeto thing. Has somebody said that before? The Cheeto joke? He looks like a Cheeto.
Starting point is 00:13:57 I'm so sorry. Look, if you can find a clever way to say it, great. I no longer need to hear the Cheeto that's in office. Um, we've, it reminds me of, we all make fun of conservatives have two jokes. Um,
Starting point is 00:14:13 you know, one of them being attack helicopter, blah, blah, blah. Um, we have one joke, which is that Donald Trump is a Cheeto and I like Cheetos.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Stop fucking up cheetos for me cheetos we only have so many things like yeah that has that when people say that it has a big like aunt energy to it like yes big email forward energy big forward energy yes yes that's exactly it is your aunt who just watched john oliver for first time. Will you believe what that Cheeto did this time? Fucking yes, we believe it. Yeah. I think I got my political takes from Jimmy Fallon. I saw Jimmy Fallon conduct.
Starting point is 00:14:57 I was like, there was nothing on. I'm so curious what he was conducting. Electricity, open heart surgery, an orchestra. Even worse, a 15-minute Zoom interview with Joseph Gordon-Levitt where they were doing TikTok dances. It was the worst Mad Lib I've ever witnessed. JGL, where have you gone joseph gordon levitt he's he's been in stuff still i don't know i was just like i don't need to see you do a tiktok dance i don't he's in that new netflix
Starting point is 00:15:34 movie right where it's like you get to have superpowers for like a second yeah what is that project project power that was my rewatch a couple weeks ago. He's fine in it. He is what he should be, which is the supporting actor in an action movie. I think he's good as a supporting actor in an action movie. But yeah, he just kind of, I don't know, he went and did that press record or whatever thing. I think the movie that he was building up to in his career was the one about him being a porn star.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And people are like, ah, that's a bummer, man. That's not how we want to think about you. You leave that to your LaBuffs. Right. Exactly. Yes. think about you uh you leave that to your labuffs right yes exactly yes i feel like jgl really wants to harness that labuff energy but it's just not it's not in the cards for him he's too soft he's a sad boy he's a sap soft soft soft sad boy i don't mean look he's big shins energy you're not giving me labuff he is i'm so confused doing it i love it if a cardigan was a person it would be joseph gordon levitt oh shins the rock band i thought the bone i was like what big shins hell yeah he really is he was
Starting point is 00:17:03 in i was thinking about him recently because we did Inception on the Bechdel cast. Yeah. And it was like, he was really making a play for like Action Man for a couple years there. And it's,
Starting point is 00:17:14 I'm kind of glad that it didn't pan out. He's a soft boy. I think Looper was the kind of the nail in that. When it was like, oh, you're doing it and for some reason
Starting point is 00:17:24 you also have Bruce Willis's entire bottom half of your face so weird what a weird decision and they really doubled down on it to get people won't be able to get over the idea that he looks slightly different we have to we have to give him a very strange prosthetic it looked very much like you know on conan where they would put the fake lips over like a over a picture of somebody and then like someone talks yeah yeah that's what it looked like but cgi where it was just like bruce willis's bottom half of his face just superimposed over joseph gordon yeah nightmare fuel was he in knives out no but it seems like he should have been right he has a hidden cameo in knives out uh apparently i just googled joseph gordon levitt and knives out came
Starting point is 00:18:13 up um but yeah i mean he is in ryan johnson's uh first movie brick so i like brick yeah i do too and i like him in brick and i I was like am I going to be a Joseph Gordon-Levitt fan? And then that didn't end up panning out. I feel like he was replaced by Tom Holland. Somebody who is small
Starting point is 00:18:39 like musical can jump around and do fun stuff but Tomand is like the evolutionary uh i guess tom holland is like trained in dance uh yes and jgl is trained in being in third rock from the sun he might be also trained in dance but i don't know he did he did do a really good version of um rhythm nation for um lip sync battle okay okay yeah he's probably has some musical background uh let's just make this podcast about jgl shall we uh what is something you think is underrated oh gosh something that is underrated um i think i've said this on here before i feel okay to repeat it um maybe we can
Starting point is 00:19:27 all just choose the empathetic response first before we get them jokes off like just for a second um i think maybe empathy is underrated and this is just you know thinking about we've all i think uh this has been a larger conversation that's been happening but just what happened with chad bick boseman when he went on to do that live and everyone was like oh he's skinny he must be on the crack it couldn't possibly be that like oh maybe he had he did it for a role or whatever and so Black Twitter got all them jokes off and then we found out obviously that he was um he was undergoing a very aggressive treatment for a very aggressive cancer which wound up he wound you wound up passing away from. And, like, we're all going to get them jokes. I get it.
Starting point is 00:20:06 I make them jokes. But maybe it's okay before you fire off your hot take to give it a hot second, and, like, maybe you don't need to immediately jump to, this actor lost weight. They must be on crack. Yeah. And just remembering that, like like everyone is their own universe.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Everyone is a person. People aren't just background players in your life. Yes. People have a whole world going on inside of them. And just act accordingly. I'm sure that someone smarter has put it in a better way, like do unto others or golden rule or whatever. I'm just going to say it in the way that's five minutes long and punctuated by 20 ums just a bunch of ums
Starting point is 00:20:50 i'm a very talented writer the i will also say as somebody whose job uh used to have the word crack in it uh just in general you can hold on to your crack jokes they're not uh ever funny and usually the least funny human beings in the world are the ones who leap to make them when uh the word crack or cracked come up there it's always like that's always the very unfunny person's uh first response is to sorry does crack even exist anymore is that like a thing the drug i'm sure yeah i think so uh i think it i think it is less epidemic than it obviously used to be. But yeah, there's a lot of people in the recovery community who have dabbled. I think it's still out there. Ruining lives. Good job, CIA.
Starting point is 00:21:59 What is a myth, finally? What is something people think is true, you know, to be false or vice versa? I don't know if I've used this one before, too, but it always comes up. That the people that you see online that are, like, often retweeted or the people that you see on YouTube or the people that you hear on podcasts have money. Yeah. Yeah. um yeah i was once at the train station um a train station in la and there was a security guard there and he recognized me from my work on like scream junkies and whatever and he was like well what what are you doing riding the train i was like why ride i take the train right and then which is like moving from one place to another yeah just going from one place to another place
Starting point is 00:22:40 and um craziness and uh and which to be fair train culture like it's not the same as it is in a chicago or in a um or in a uh new york or even in san francisco but he was like oh i would have thought that you would like i just assumed that you would be driving like a fancy car and i was like i don't we're not all pewdiepie my dude us are very happy that we can cobble together one of 10 jobs to make one rent that's like a it's so interesting i feel like that conversation has been going on for a long time but it just never quite catches on that it's like there are so many different versions of like being a podcaster or even just like making stuff that mostly lives online where i forget when this was like maybe five or six years ago there was um someone who worked i believe for buzzfeed there
Starting point is 00:23:33 was like a wave of employees who had to get who were like really you know internet famous on buzzfeed but then had to have like second jobs and people were giving them shit for it when it's like they're like you're famous why why are you shit for it when it's like they're like you're famous why why are you working at a restaurant it's like why would you be consider where this blame should be you know levied but just i don't know yeah that conversation has been so imperfect it's like oh that's crazy so you are responsible for all of this content that people really love. And yet the money's not coming down to you. What an interesting conversation to have. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:11 But then it winds up being, no, you're a loser. And that's why you have to work at Trader Joe's instead of being like, how come they take your stuff and then give you like 50 bucks per appearance? You know what I mean? Right. And I don't know, I don't know what Buzzfeed. Yeah. I blame you. I don't know what Buzzfeed is, is charging or what's going on.
Starting point is 00:24:30 And granted this whole industry is dying. It's very exciting. As far as like the internet, as far as like the being on YouTube and talking about stuff, stuff. Um, I know a lot of people will ask like, Hey,
Starting point is 00:24:41 like I want to do what you do. And it's like, Oh, what I do, isn't going to be around in two years. You got to find something else. Yeah. That door is closing quickly.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Yeah. You're like, no, no, no, you don't understand. I got in just in time. No,
Starting point is 00:24:58 I did. I always say like, I try to keep that ladder down, but the industry has pulled that ladder up behind me. I am the last one to get in and be like you can make money just fucking cracking jokes about movies like it was it i i was the last one and i apologize it's like that scene in titanic where there's like the guy slipping under the watertight door that's us sorry sorry everybody else you have to you know you know it's not worth it it's fine
Starting point is 00:25:30 just go on tiktok make a new dance we'll be fine i promise not to go on tiktok challenge don't do the benadryl challenge oh god are people still doing the benadryl challenge a child died from the benadryl challenge on from tiktok i don't know how like maybe she saw it on tiktok maybe it's you know so a lot of times whatever the latest technology buzzword is will get blamed for uh things that were happening anyways but so maybe it's just the benadryl challenge has been a thing and benadryl abuse has been a thing and somebody saw it on tiktok and is blaming tiktok but her aunt and uncle uh who i always gotta trust an aunt and uncle uh are saying that it was a tiktok based
Starting point is 00:26:18 hold on what is the benadryl challenge? That is very upsetting. Because diphenhydramine for me is just like, I can't sleep. I have anxiety. It's a chemical cousin of a lot of anxiety meds. Right. So do you just take a crap ton of Benadryl? I think that's it.
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Starting point is 00:29:54 comfort zone and shaking things up a little bit, because that's the only way I feel that you're going to make history. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and sticking with titanic metaphors, I feel like our current president is Billy Zane shooting women to get on the escape boat, just cartoonishly doing the bad thing that absolutely no one can. How dare you take the name of Billy Zane in Billy Zane like this? You leave the phantom out of this.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yeah. But so there's I think this was generally like rumored at the time. There was this, you know, Trump made a trip to France and was supposed to visit a cemetery where a bunch of World War I veterans were buried. It was raining. It was misting that day. And he claimed that they couldn't fly his helicopter. And that's why he chose not. That's why it had to be canceled. People who are with him that day are now saying that he was he was saying why should i go to that cemetery it's filled with losers referred to the more than 1800 marines who lost their lives uh there as suckers for getting killed and yeah it's like a very venerated event in the history of the marine corps and a
Starting point is 00:31:47 very venerated cemetery and and he's uh he asked who were the good guys in this war uh and and wondered why the u.s would intervene on the side of the allies uh which isn't too surprising given his stance on world war ii and the fact that he always had adolf hitler's speeches near his bed for like during the 80s and 90s um but he's just like so directly the opposite of what the people who support him claim to stand for like there's definitely a new spin on like what a conservative is that he invented basically uh like say what racist people are thinking straight shooter capitalism celebrity guy uh version of things but then i feel like even like the they're like willing to overlook his sexual assaults and affairs because there's like an old fashioned version of like sexual politics that they're like, yeah, he's doing the thing for the 1950s.
Starting point is 00:32:56 But and that that's like a he's a complete fucking stretch for his supporters to to be into. He's a complete fucking stretch for his supporters to be into. But this seems to be the one place where they haven't quite found the way to justify him to themselves. The fact that he doesn't support the troops. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. That's the one where he's like, where they're like, ah, but like, can we can we find a way? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:23 But like, can we can we find a way? Yeah. Yeah. Like, could you? It's the least you could do with it, especially with a majorly conservative platform is to like. Yeah, I say teaser garbage. Right. And like a lot of just for lots of different reasons. Right. A lot of entrance exams are kind of are kind of garbage and trash. And I think in most cases they are not necessary because they don't um actually um adequately show what someone knows right they should you should if you're president you should probably know who fought in world war one right what the war was about yeah um you should
Starting point is 00:34:01 know you you you should just know that um also is that question too dumb to be on the sats though like who fought in world war one yeah i feel like that's more of like a high school entrance exam yeah i feel like that's been that's been said a number of times of like our president could most likely not pass the american citizenship test like oh yeah much less i'm like i don't even know if fucking i could but he definitely but you're not you're not president right i am famously not the president you make fart jokes that is what we do and it is fantastic and we're very good at it there is no entrance exam to fart jokes yeah also is it is it a problem with helicopters that they don't work in the rain? I feel like we've heard about that before.
Starting point is 00:34:46 Yeah. No, it's not. Nobody has really backed him on that one. like a a hot mic moment written by Veep if Veep just wanted to you know be if the writers of Veep just wanted to like completely let an algorithm write an episode or something
Starting point is 00:35:15 that's right yeah it's it is it's like the chaotic take on everything and some of those some of that chaos lines up with a conservative platform and a lot of it does not. His chief of staff, John Kelly, whose son is buried in Section 60, which he was killed in 2010 in Afghanistan when he was 29. And Trump was supposed to, on his visit, join John Kelly in paying respects at his son's grave to comfort the families of other fallen service members. But according to sources, with knowledge of the visit, while standing next to Robert Kelly's grave, he turned to John Kelly, Robert Kelly's father, and said, I don't get it. What was in it for them?
Starting point is 00:36:22 So Kelly chose to justify that to himself by being like he was making a reference to the selflessness um but then he said he says that he according to sources he later came to realize trump simply does not understand non-transactional life choices it's it's just fucking cruel i would speculate that it has to do with him his own insecurities about being a draft dodger as well and like devaluing the military as a way to justify that decision in his head but like that's just i don't know it's also you know it's very classic you know born on third base think you think you hit a triple you know what i mean like it's um that's like him to be like oh well they're losers it's like well why didn't they just oh they got drafted well they simply could have not been drafted why were they just not drafted
Starting point is 00:37:09 why did they just not i didn't go why didn't they just not go and it's like well that's not look i'm glad you have a gold shitter but that's not like real life for most people um i don't know this is so weird because it's it's uh discussions about the military like there's a whole military industrial complex as some people maybe know like i grew up uh on military bases i my my pops is in the military most of my family um are either like involved in law or law enforcement or legal in some way or we are straight up criminals so like that's my family so for me personally it's like it doesn't bug me in terms of you know how dare he be disrespectful whatever that dude sucks we
Starting point is 00:37:51 all know that he sucks the thing that i don't get is is it's just we we all think that like this is going to be the thing and this is a problem that we have and maybe i should have made this my overrated we all think this is going to be the thing. This is going to be the thing that finally takes down Cheeto, man. Like this is going to be, it's never going to be the thing. It's never going to be the thing. You guys,
Starting point is 00:38:13 there's always lower. There's always lower. He can go. There's always video of more low. The only thing that's ever going to make it the thing is of more conservatives finally decide that they are done using him as a useful idiot and it is actually hurting them and that will be when they start turning against him but right now they all know that they can continue using him to further their own agenda and then later be like
Starting point is 00:38:37 oh well we behind the scenes you don't know what we said and did you know what i mean and then they can always like distance themselves from him later it's just it's never it's always these things of like well how is it if you guys believe in god and he does this and and you guys believe in this right they don't care yeah they don't care they care about the fact that he is pushing through the things that they want to get pushed through and they will do whatever leaps and bounds need to happen to make that make sense in their brain. And that's really it. They don't care.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, at this point, yeah, almost 200,000 people have died on this person's watch. And there's still a huge number of people that don't hold them accountable for it. There's just not, there's nothing. After Herman Cain, like that's like, come on. Like if that, if that, if there was ever to be a moment where people go like, Hey guys, maybe, maybe we should back some of this up. Maybe, you know, maybe we should reevaluate. They don't,
Starting point is 00:39:41 they want to get through the things they want to get through. And later they will find ways to justify it. But he wasn't perfect but he gave us this and this was godly or he gave us this and this to blah blah that's what it is and it's you know and us us lefties us well liberals leftists mostly progressives it's mostly like you know oh i can't believe that you guys would stand by him while he does this yeah we can why do we do that we believe it right it's a useless discussion to continue and i find it really frustrating that there's still a number of news outlets that like you're saying danielle are trying to make this thing the thing when it's like there are you have so many resources to report on other things and to like, of course, report on what the president is doing. But the you know, I don't know, it's it's it just seems like such a futile
Starting point is 00:40:36 effort at this point to make to try to make something the thing it's like you're saying, it's not going to be the thing. Where can we direct our attention that is like productive and yeah and like cover it absolutely cover it like it is a thing that happens it's important to cover it but it's always like that ah zinger we got him this time right like what you don't need to cover it for weeks and weeks trying to be like that was the thing it's like it's not the thing and and there's there's, there's a lot going on. If the piss, if the piss tape ever comes out and they are peeing in his mouth, it will not be the thing.
Starting point is 00:41:11 It will not be the thing. I don't understand. It's never going to be it. They are going to vote for this man, no matter what, because he furthers the thing that he, he is doing. He is giving them the thing they want.
Starting point is 00:41:22 Like they can say all day long about how Michelle Obama this and Michelle Obama's arms and this thing and that thing. And then you show, you know, or complaining about WAP. And then you show them pictures of Melania covering her WAP. And they don't care. The hypocrisy is part of the point. You get to do whatever you want and still say whatever you want and be whoever you want.
Starting point is 00:41:44 That's what being rich is about. And you get to have that if you do the things that we say you do yeah i'm a bummer oh what a bummer on my birthday no it's definitely true and like part of the reason i thought this was uh like worth covering was this story that i remember in the 2016 election there he like talked shit about a gold star family like a family would love and like his polls actually dropped and people were like well that's the silver bullet but that was uh before he got elected president so it seems like it's not that silver a bullet uh turns out when when manuel miranda went on snl and it was after the grab him by the pussy thing and he's saying never gonna be president now about donald trump one of the most embarrassing pieces of media to revisit right up up there with Kate McKinnon singing
Starting point is 00:42:45 Hallelujah as Hillary Clinton. It's just like, yeah, stop doing that. It's embarrassing. And it, I don't know. Whatever. When we cover all of it, it's important to cover it. I think it's important to have it as a record.
Starting point is 00:43:02 I just don't like the tweets where it's like, Zinga! Boom! Cheeto! cheeto whatever like a tweet is like this is not okay this i feel like this connects with your cheeto president thing this is not normal this is not okay i'm like okay suggestions for a solution like right or no okay i guess not. Okay. Is such a, not okay. Oh my God. It's just like, it's just like a bunch of people with their hands on their hips,
Starting point is 00:43:30 like waggling their fingers. It's like, okay. Oh my God. I, okay. That's step one. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Acknowledging that there is a problem, but my God, you guys, that is not okay. That's the voice I hear in my head it is the voice years later it's like i guess in like 2016 2017 i was faving those tweets i'm like yeah this is not okay but now it's like for sure okay let's continue this conversation. Did you guys hear that Trump pooped in someone's mouth? This is not okay.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Like what? This is not okay. This is not normal. That was like that. Yeah. I don't know. Everyone went through the phase. This is not normal.
Starting point is 00:44:17 But now it is normal now. Oh my God. Hitler is not okay. You guys. Hitler is. That is not normal okay so bad like have you seen his speeches he is like so
Starting point is 00:44:30 wound up that is not okay I am fed up with this right I'm gonna what are we gonna say I don't know there's there's also this thing where he is there's with regards to his covet 19 response there's uh a thing that we've had on the doc for a while that
Starting point is 00:44:54 i just wanted to uh touch on real quick where it's like convalescent plasma uh which is where you take the uh blood plasma from people who have had the disease and put it in the veins of people who are fighting it and it helps boost their it has been shown to help boost their immune response so he got on board with that and it's been something that's been in use since the 1800s. So it's not like this revolutionary thing, but he only really like started talking about it when the FDA like pumped the brakes on it. So it just underlined to me that it's not that he wants to be, he needs to be right. It's that he needs to be right while everyone else is wrong. Like he, uh, and that's something that I guess is just worth keeping in mind is he
Starting point is 00:45:49 destroys our country. That that is why he's doing it. He's like, yeah, no, he's a total contrarian. He's like those dudes that tweet sports bar ball while other people are enjoying the Superbowl.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Right. Except with our lives, except with our lives. Yeah. lives yeah can you guys imagine what like in the best case scenario for how the election goes and biden wins and everybody agrees he has won like what will those months where he is just waiting for Biden to like come into office, like what would those be like? I don't,
Starting point is 00:46:31 like, I don't think that that's necessarily going to happen, but we've only had that happen once in my lifetime. So definitely you guys' lifetime, like with, with George H.W. Bush. And like the thing that was uncommon about him
Starting point is 00:46:46 was that he was very like gracious to the Clinton administration and like was trying to be helpful to them. Like what will that, he'll try to start a war essentially. Like it seems like. It will not be good. But I wonder if he loses loses if that is the point that
Starting point is 00:47:07 his cabinet will begin to distance themselves because he you know his power is running out i'm not i i yeah i don't know i kind of wonder if it'd be one of those things where it's like it starts coming in that it's looking like he's losing and he doesn't do a concession speech so much as a i've done everything i wanted to do so i'm quitting anyway like i mean you can't fire me i quit It starts coming in that it's looking like he's losing, and he doesn't do a concession speech so much as a, I've done everything I wanted to do, so I'm quitting anyway. You can't fire me. I quit. Like if it's one of those. It's like, oh, I'm not conceding because I was going to win, but no other president has done what I've done in the last four years.
Starting point is 00:47:38 I guess you're not wrong. Although that also feels like something that I the liberal Democrat inside of me keeps waiting for to happen. It's like, well, none of this is OK. This is not OK. He's going to quit. Like, it's so outside the bounds of propriety. This man must quit. And it's just seems like it i i'm extremely worried
Starting point is 00:48:09 about what q anon will do and what he will encourage q anon to do uh if he if he is electorally defeated um what does he steal first i mean this is not okay. Yeah, that's true. You guys, this is like, who does that? That is not okay. He is going to steal some shit though. Like if he does, if he does, if this is a peaceful transfer of power. Best case scenario, like the 0.0001 top 001% case scenario. He's taking all the laptops and forgetting that they have trackers on them like he's doing like all of this like he's forgetting that it's got key loggers
Starting point is 00:48:50 because it's the white house like 500 government laptop chromebooks the clinton administration when they were bitter about go losing that, took all the W's off of the computers, which is such a great metaphor for toothless Democratic Party politics. They showed him. Yeah. He can't put in part of his name. Yeah. Very symbolic. Very powerful, powerful stuff.
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Starting point is 00:53:30 but for Boss Babies? But this time for Boss Babies. I was very curious to watch this because I worked on an interactive show that hasn't come out yet. So I'm like, it's fun to, because it's i don't know it's like the most obnoxious way to write a show humanly possible um and netflix i don't know it's weird netflix does the does the most popular ones but they don't do it very well so interesting
Starting point is 00:53:59 boss baby the story is simple it is but also kind of I was when I was trying to recap it, I'm like, I actually don't know if I can describe this. So the boss baby, you know him, you love him. He's got an older brother and then he has to win some kind of relay race. Why? I don't know but at the relay race he runs into several escaped convicts one of whom and they're mostly goofy cartoon criminals that are like i stole a cat also babies no adults and then one of them is reese darby who is uh who's uh kind of like a business he's a white collar criminal so the boss baby runs into all these guys for some and then he finds out there's a big government
Starting point is 00:54:53 conspiracy you're making choices this whole time and you're like should i fight reese darby and then yeah you should so the boss baby fights re Reese Darby and you're kind of it's kind of just like you're playing like an old school video game where it's boss baby Reese Darby and it's like what should you throw at him a diaper you throw a diaper at Reese Darby that's fun knocks him out and then he gives you your pacifier back so that happens there's just i mean this sounds like a flash game it sounds very like new grounds yeah it is yes and so then nothing happens for a while you're kind of just like fighting anyone you meet and then at the end there's the climax is at a factory and there's some controversy with a factory and it's like a kind of a socialist
Starting point is 00:55:45 statement but it's also really like upsetting to watch where it's this big conspiracy where it's this sweater company right and reese darby is involved with the sweater company but how do they make the sweaters they make babies lick cats and then spit out the hair balls and they make the hair balls into sweaters i'm jamie are you having an episode what what what did you just say they make babies lick cats and spit the hair out it was really i wish i was i was shocked and i'm not easily shocked but okay so what it is is they have babies on like the production line and then they would that what happens at the factory is they there's this thing that dangles a cookie in front of the baby's face and the baby goes oh and the baby gets ready to
Starting point is 00:56:37 lick the cookie and then as we do how you consume cookies by licking them babies love to eat cookies this way and then at the last second as the baby's about to lick the cookie, they switch it out and they put a kitten there instead. And so the baby licks the kitten and they go, ew. And then they catch the hair in a barrel and they turn the hair into sweaters that they sell for $300. So this is a world in which the triangle shirtwaist factory never existed. No, what is the triangle shirtwaist factory was babies and kittens. And that's what this narrative explores. And then at the end, you base the whole framework of the thing. It's kind of people seem to like it. And it's like, it's for kids. I get it. But I also think that
Starting point is 00:57:22 this format can be done way better and Netflix has never done it very well. But the whole framework is that you're playing through this entire story. And then at the end, they tell you what your job is. They hire you at the boss baby's company because the boss baby frees all the babies and he frees all the kittens in various ways. There's kind of no way to lose there. There's just different ways to free all the babies and he frees all the kittens in various ways there's kind of no way to lose there there's just different ways to free all the babies and in one my favorite way was when the babies they're like we're taking back the means of production and they take the rich eat the witch there isn't eat the rich but then at the end they're like and you're hired in hr at the boss
Starting point is 00:58:02 baby's company i'm like well that's kind of unsatisfying but there's 16 different jobs that you can get at the i'm like did children want to be hired at a conglomerate like there was an ending i got where it's like congratulations you've been hired in middle management no are you serious yeah that's one of the endings. I only got to eight out of the 16. And then I was like, I cannot consciously spend more time on this. But yeah, there is. So it is a weird story. It's not badly written.
Starting point is 00:58:37 There were some jokes that I was laughing. Boss Baby's always got some fun jokes. I enjoyed the original movie. But the thing that bothers me about this format that I think is kind of lazy is that I think people have the same issue with Bandersnatch. There are points where you just lose and then they send you back
Starting point is 00:58:58 and you have to watch a whole scene again and then just make the other choice. If you're going to make me do that, first of all, I firmly believe no one actually wants to pay attention to television. And it's frustrating to have to pay attention to television too carefully like this. I'm not here to tell the boss baby what to do. I trust that he's going to do what's right in the end. I mean, because you're not in charge of him.
Starting point is 00:59:20 The boss baby is in charge. He is. He is the boss after all. I mean, no, no ethical consumption under boss baby is in charge he is he is the boss after all i mean no no ethical consumption under boss baby right uh but it is what it is he makes his choices uh but in this one i'm in control of the boss baby but it's it sucks there's multiple points where you there they just send you back to the previous scene they're like you lost and that happened in bandersnatch too where like if you something like if you killed your dad, they're like, that was the wrong choice.
Starting point is 00:59:47 You have to go back. And I think that sucks because you don't have to do that. I know because there are ways to write stories where you can. It's just actually doing what you say that the format supposed to do, which is like give you a ton of choices of where stuff can go or like i don't know i think it really sucks when you can lose an interactive it just makes you feel like you're wasting your time i felt the same way i think the worst one did either of you watch the kimmy schmidt interactive special i didn't no it's so frustratingly bad because
Starting point is 01:00:23 famous people they just shouldn't be in things like this because it's a lotly bad because famous people, they just shouldn't be in things like this. Cause it's a lot of filming and they don't want to do a lot of filming. And so then they have like two endings and then they're like, sorry, you should have kissed Daniel Radcliffe 45 minutes ago. Go back to the beginning. Like that special sucked. Also,
Starting point is 01:00:41 I didn't want to see Ellie Kemper kiss Daniel Radcliffe. What? I've been shipping them for so long. It turns out I didn't want it. It's gross. I don't know. I could talk about the issues of interactive television forever. But if you have a kid, maybe they'll like it.
Starting point is 01:00:58 But I'm also like, I don't think kids want to be boss babies. I don't know. I think boss baby will be studied like as a cultural institution many years into the future as like a weird expression of like late stage capitalism and it's just so strange also i'm glad that they they're continuing to uh perpetuate the myth that hr is for the employees and not for the employer. Right. They're lucky you,
Starting point is 01:01:28 you get to screw your fellow employees over. There's one ending where they're like, congratulations, you are a recruiter. I'm like, but kids don't know what a recruiter is. And then they just tell you what a recruiter is. It's like,
Starting point is 01:01:41 they're preparing children for an unsatisfying life in an office bus baby bizarre is based on a book that every parent is required to purchase when you have a baby they're like here you have to buy this it's or else you will will be taken away. And it's a very simple premise that is inconceivable that they made this into a larger universe. The idea is when a baby first comes home from the hospital, they take over your life and start making, like you have to do very uncomfortable things, much as a bad boss would make you do.
Starting point is 01:02:21 to do very uncomfortable things, much as a bad boss would make you do. It's like the baby set up his office right in the middle of the house, and he was calling meetings all night long. And so that's it. And then they were like, what if a baby was a really mean capitalist Fortune 500 oligarch?
Starting point is 01:02:49 Like his parents? Well, it also kind of implies that you're like, that you can be born with capitalism. In your veins, yes. Because the baby, it's just what he does. He can't help it. His family isn't teaching him this. His family just lives in a middle class family.
Starting point is 01:03:05 But the boss baby, boss is in his bones. It's the weirdest shit. And I don't know. Yeah, I know. Okay, time for a flex. I know someone who works on the Boss Baby TV show. Wow. And I don't know if he worked on this,
Starting point is 01:03:24 but I do know that it is a weird room to be in because you're constantly having to discuss how to present capitalism to children. Well, look, some people are born queer. Some people are born capitalists like that's just how it works. That's right. Boss baby. I baby i don't know and also boss baby was originally alec baldwin and but but they just hired an alec baldwin sound alike for this okay i was gonna ask yeah yeah no alec baldwin i mean also it's like that boss baby came out what like three ish years ago and already it's aged poorly the boss baby extended
Starting point is 01:04:10 universe it's too much the baby EU yeah it came out three years ago god it's uh it made like over 500 million dollars at the box office when it came out people love a boss but it is just it is such a weird It made like over $500 million at the box office when it came out.
Starting point is 01:04:27 People love a box. But it is such a weird property. Because it's just making references to Alec Baldwin's work in Glengarry Glen Ross for a lot of the movie. Right. And Jack Donaghy. And children. Famously. Huge into Glengarry Glen Ross. It's so weird. Right. And Jack Donaghy. And children. Right. Famously.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Huge into Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross. That's so weird. Yeah. It's like, Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross for kids. My four-year-old isn't as much into it anymore,
Starting point is 01:04:54 but it's like definitely a stage two-year-olds go through where they're like, Always be closing. That, then trains, then dinosaurs.
Starting point is 01:05:04 So, guys, I want to talk to you about the Smurfs, because it kind of ties in in that the Smurfs are very much from a land that doesn't have a capitalist ethos. It has more of a socialist ethos. Everybody is defined by their role that they perform within the group and one of them is just being a lady sorry yeah absolutely that's one of the very strangest parts of the smurf world that they lean into they're like they make sure you know that they uh smurfs
Starting point is 01:05:42 are all boys but then the evil wizard of this universe made a girl smurf to like fuck them over to be like yeah well women are gonna yeah yeah that's where smurfette comes from is the main antagonist gargamel uh invented her to screw over the uh to like screw up the dynamics the internal balance of the smurfs um and they pop a smurf through his beneficence and uh you know he's very saintly uh also wears a red hat white beard very uh uh santa clausish but also like could have Lennon vibes in there. But he's very, I don't know, kind. This movie and all Smurfs movies would make sense as a hagiography of Papa Smurf. If Papa Smurf were a real historic figure,
Starting point is 01:06:44 it's just like papa smurf is the kindest gentlest most loving human being like he sacrifices his life in this for the uh greater good of the other smurfs and they like go back to save him because they realize papa smurf is the best um this is neil patrick harris smurf right this is neil patrick harris so what happens they live in a magical forest in giant uh oversized mushroom houses uh and gargamel comes for them so they are very like socialist they it opens with them collecting berries putting them in a pot in the middle of town so where they're going to share all the smurf berries gargamel is very like i want to possess the smurfs i'm going to come for them
Starting point is 01:07:30 and turn them into a product that i can use for power he arrives chases them through a portal into new york city um and that's when they meet Neil Patrick Harris who is a very solid performance from him for someone who is having to act against a bunch of tennis balls and dolls but it is it is shockingly recent
Starting point is 01:07:58 for a movie in which not only are we asked to believe him as like a just very straight down the middle like straight father husband but like we demanded he pretend to be like a straight guy for this role um but he does he does a good job it is like there's this part in the big lebowski yes i'm quoting the big lebowski but they they open up talking about how the dude is like the most perfectly of his time person like he is just perfect for the era in which he exists I feel like this is the most 2011 movie that's ever been made it's so aggressively like 3d
Starting point is 01:08:41 there's like all these scenes where you're just like zooming back and forth in between like tunnels like it opens where you're like getting a point of view of a bird swooping around with a smurf on its back and the neil patrick harris thing uh katie perry plays smurfette and at one point she says i smurfed a girl and i think i liked it uh no guitar hero is like the big musical number. It's Neil Patrick Harris rocking out with a guitar hero. And the Smurfs are dancing. The Cranky Smurf falls in love with the green M&M.
Starting point is 01:09:16 So it's like that ad campaign. Do they go to the M&M store? They go to a toy store. And there's like a M&M set up. It's very like corporatist. I just think that making candy into sexy women is some of the most high grade pervert shit. Right. In the entire world.
Starting point is 01:09:39 That's what I meant. I saw a picture of a sexy lady Hershey kiss the other day that I'm just like someone really had to be firing on it. They're like, oh, this beautiful, curvy. Kiss. It's so weird. And they're like, let's give her lips and a phone. People are going to love this sexy piece of candy. I just I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:01 I don't want to fuck my food, I guess. I just don't. I just don't. Yeah. But but good fuck my food i guess i just don't i just don't yeah but but good for the green eminem yeah she's killing it out here it's also that point in tech where like we still thought google was so like cool like at one point he like searches something and they're like where what are you where are you getting these facts what magical alchemy is this he's like i'm googling something and they're like ah google uh like it's just cool and adorable uh time square is also like they're like whoa look at all the lights and corporate
Starting point is 01:10:41 logos it's like um they're more of a, what magic land is this rather than who dumped garbage all over my eyeballs? Uh, which I think is more what you would get today. If you made a thing where like people came from a socialist utopia in the woods to time square. Like, I feel like people wouldn't be like,
Starting point is 01:11:04 yay, this is so cool. Instead of being like, why does looking burn? Right, yeah, exactly. But I watched it with my four-year-old and two-year-old and it got their official stamp of approval, which is when the credits song starts rolling, they start dancing and really
Starting point is 01:11:27 have a blast. There are some five star jokes from my four-year-old's perspective wherein a Smurf falls into a toilet,
Starting point is 01:11:43 and that was the funniest thing he'd ever seen. You do love to see it. You do. You do love to see it. So I can't be mad at this movie. Five stars. Let me know what the boys think of Boss Baby Interactive. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:00 There's some good jokes in there. I'm kind of excited. There are good jokes. Okay. I mean, it sounds like I could get a whole burn through a whole weekend with just all those choices.
Starting point is 01:12:13 All those boring jobs you can get. I can't wait to find out what it means to be a comptroller. Danielle, you said you have seen uh the smurfs 2011 uh yes i have yep sure sure did um it's yeah it's for some reason we really wanted to see um because we'd already done the garfield which was already like a mixture of live action and um just because that's the nature of it. It's the same thing when we do like an Alvin and the Chipmunks. That is the nature of it, live action animated.
Starting point is 01:12:53 And so someone was like, look, we can't trust that the Smurfs can be the Smurfs on their own. And so we have to take them into. take them into i'm always i'm always very curious about um how little people want to adapt this thing that's pop that's popular but they believe so little in it that they completely fundamentally change the premise of what it's about you know what i mean yeah it's like oh yeah no we love the smurfs everyone loves the smurfs um but how about we love the Smurfs. Everyone loves the Smurfs. Um, but how about we take the Smurfs and this thing that everyone loves and we put them in New York and see what happens. Um, yeah, no, it's not, you know, there's some cute songs. I think Britney Spears has a song on there on either the first one or second one, that ooh la la song. They, they try real hard to
Starting point is 01:13:40 make Smurfette real bangable. It's not, it's one of's one of those things was like you can't even be mad at it it just kind of happens to you it washes upon you yeah um it's not so bad that you it's not a boss baby which is like the movie boss baby is not good and you can spend some real time taking it apart um much like with anything that it's my job i find ways to take apart everything it's like what i do for a living i'm a very happy person um but so you can find ways to like take that apart you can find ways to take the smurfs apart but mostly it's just like why yeah why did you make this because for me i like the socialist utopia like i like the idea that it's like hey like there's this thing and then here comes capitalism there there are there is a lot to be said about the way that Gargamel is portrayed in the same way that the dwarfs in Harry Potter, there,
Starting point is 01:14:29 there could be a lot to be said about them if you decided you want to do that deep dive, if you wanted to deep dive on that for a bit, but you know, that's, you know, but instead they were like, no, let's give them to Neil Patrick Harris and see what he does. Right. And Hank Azaria plays gargamel and i would say it's up there with a poo in terms of uh offensive uh depictions of uh i don't know it's well they'll never they'll never cop to it when it comes to those again it's like it's like the the the it's like the goblins or whatever it it's like they'll never cop to it it's always like oh it's just a design choice it's a design
Starting point is 01:15:07 choice but it's just like i don't know man some of that's looking real 1930s yeah the word coding around these people they won't know what to do um also the neil patrick harris's job is being an ad executive for a perfume company. And it's treated as just like a noble profession. His boss is like a monster who keeps firing everyone, Sofia Vergara. And the victory at the end is he pleases her. She's like, you really made me happy. You did a good job. I'm not going to fire you.
Starting point is 01:15:44 And he's like, sick really made me happy. You did a good job. I'm not going to fire you. And he's like, sick. And that's it. He's like, I just want the girls to smell good. What a noble pursuit. Exactly. I mean, I would imagine that Neil Patrick Harris, I mean, in 2011, he would be coming to this project basically right off of How I Met Your Mother, right? Yeah. Like during. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:05 Yeah. So that's probably why he's like this lovable business goof. Right. That was his bread and butter at that time. Yeah. Yeah. Business goof. That's a business goof in the early 2010.
Starting point is 01:16:22 I want to be a business goof. He was a sexist business goof and that was and that was how he bought a house and you know yeah shout out to him we can't we can't make it unhappen i'm not unhappy for him i don't know yeah character on how you met how i met your mother was gross though right pretty gross pretty gross. But funny, like, in a cute way. Yeah. And then later, like, oh, but he falls in love with the hot girl, so it's fine. So Arlen's forgiven.
Starting point is 01:16:52 She fixed him. Boom. Danielle, it's been a pleasure having you. Boom. That's how I end. Women fixing men. Boom. That's how it's done, ladies.
Starting point is 01:17:04 What was his horrible catchphrase? That is unbelievable. What was it? That is unbelievable. Close enough. I think that's what it is now. That is buzzynga. What was his catchphrase? I'm actually glad I forgot, and I don't want to know. Zynga catch phrase
Starting point is 01:17:25 I'm actually glad I forgot and I don't want to know damn you're about to find out it is 10 most iconic phrases from how I met your mother damn 10 whole ones
Starting point is 01:17:39 they were like whole books I feel like it was on par wait for it maybe legend whole books and it was I feel like it was on wait for it is that what it is wait for it uh maybe legend wait for it dairy that's it you found it we did it that bought him a house that bought a house god it's me Barney what up uh true story was that was that the one you're thinking of? That's another one. He was a catchphrase machine in that show.
Starting point is 01:18:09 Yeah, really. Anyways, Danielle, it has been such a pleasure. Thank you so much for choosing to spend some of your birthday with us. Thank you. That's going to be working anyway. I'm that loser. Either way, I was going to be working. Where can people find you and follow you?
Starting point is 01:18:33 Yeah, you can just find me at Danielle Radford on Twitter. You can find me at Danielle underscore Radford on Instagram. I have a TikTok. I will never use it. Probably. I have a TikTok. I will never use it. Probably.
Starting point is 01:18:51 So you're going to say never use it for like Benadryl challenges or evil. But you're like, I will never use it. Never. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh, that's exactly what I was looking up. This tweet came out today and it's one of the best things i've ever read at immortal underscore graves writes whelp at river and mall found the worst man writes woman excerpt ever i'm gonna read this whole fucking thing it's pretty great hey baby it's happening i'm ovulating right now i feel the tingling of my egg coming out. There's more. But the most obvious change to Felicia's body from the woman who had let me join her in the shower was a full inch of
Starting point is 01:19:33 waistline added from a burgeoning uterus filled with my bountiful overnight deposits. Imagining those seeds making way into her fallopian tubes, seeking that most precious treasure of eggs and bringing them to life within her flooded womb. I felt myself stiffen once more. Interesting. I don't want to be alive anymore. I'll never be stiff again, but I know.
Starting point is 01:20:01 Luchu cannot fix that. Holy shit. Don't like that at all i have been rendered speechless holy shit jamie where can people find you follow you what's a tweet you've been enjoying uh you can follow me on twitter at Jamie Loftus Help, Instagram at Jamie Christ Superstar. Keep getting involved with mutual aid in your area. We need it. We're going to keep needing it. So look stuff up.
Starting point is 01:20:35 Let me know if you need help finding somewhere. And my tweet, I have something a little different this time so because i was just um in the uh the northern wisconsin area for a couple of weeks uh they don't have tweets up there what they do have is wooden blocks in which there is a joke inside and so i have a there's i've also got one of these in northern california where here it is so you get there it's a block with a flap and it says where you are so if you're like okay so that's that's basically the geo tag of the tweet um on top is the setup for the joke for this it's clip art of a cow a turkey and a pig and it, there's a place for all God's creatures. And then for the punchline, you have to open the flap.
Starting point is 01:21:28 And the punchline is, right next to the potatoes and gravy. Oh, shit. So edible and delicious. And you can put this tweet on your shelf and enjoy the hilarity over and over and over. Wow. This is not my favorite joke. Eat animals. That. That person eats animals. That is a very gross joke,
Starting point is 01:21:50 but I do like the wooden block tweet format. That's great. There's money to be made out here, joke writers. We got to get some leftist joke writers working in the wooden block format. There is an open market for it right now. It is a pretty meat and potatoes kind of energy to the wooden block, but it's a good format.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Tweets I've been enjoying. Abby Gaffney tweeted, You ever fall out with a fella and his whole friend group unfollow you? Like, damn, sorry, Power Rangers. And then Just What tweeted, I guess in this version of Batman, he kills his own parents because Robert Pets and COVID.
Starting point is 01:22:37 Jeez. Plus, wait for him to get better first, everybody. No pearls, just droplets. No pearls in this one just droplets droplets droplets yeah uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song we ride out on.
Starting point is 01:23:07 And we are going to keep the reggae vibes going. So super producer Ana Hosnier got sent down a path of reggae via all the Adele remixes at the beginning of the week, and she's just been giving us some nice reggae songsgae songs we are still on that vibe but all the songs have been so dope so yeah hell yeah we will keep going someone to love by stephen marley is what we're riding out on the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio forio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Jamie, Danielle, thank you so much for being here.
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