The Daily Zeitgeist - Surfin The Web

Episode Date: March 17, 2026

The guys are riding (precariously) high off of another Arsenal victory! They talk Max Dowman's magic moment, Chelsea's "HuddleGate"... thing, and check in with the rest of the league in match week 30!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Three points closer. Three points closer. Maybe it's going to happen. I don't know. But it's time to get into this week's action and you know we kick it off this way. Chris Martin, give us many words or phrases to describe how you're feeling about this last week of football. Pulled mushroom, chili, conkani. Okay.

Okay, this is a vegan, this sounds like a vegan alternative to a chili. It's a vegan alternative, yeah. Okay. I was in a, I'm in North London. I'm in Crouch End. I'm walking distance from the Emirates. I went to a pub last night to watch the game. I ordered a pulled mushroom chili.

Conkarni while the game was on. I ordered it, lads, in the 20th minute of the game and this is a British pub, right? It's not like they've forage for the food. It arrived in the 80th minute of the game. Okay. Okay.

And I think that that food, time it took and the thing perfectly sums up, the Arsenal game in its self. A lot of time for something. And it was very, let's just say,

it was very delicious. Chilly. We had to wait a long time for the road. And not just in the game, in life. 22 years of waiting for Arsenal to win the league again. They're going to win the league again. I'm pretty sure now.

We see Max Dowell. Just everything just chili. Max Dalman, Arsenal. Oh my God. Did you spill your chilling? While he broke through, were you holding the bowl of chili?

I just like, You're going to make me that long? No, dude, the chili had been finished. I'd actually starting my wife's chili that she didn't finish eating. She never finishes the thing. Wait, did you have the kid with you two? Had the kid with me. I ordered him tomato pasta.

That was where my red flag of the establishment went off when that took an hour. Someone couldn't be bothered to put tomato sauce on some pasta. Right. And, but, mate, it was worth it. The way Artetta celebrated, that second goal running around. That's what I did on my own in the pub.

I just ran around the pub. Anyway, I just picked you again with a bowl of chili just jumping up. Just giving it that Super Mario Brothers. It's the new. Instead of throwing a pint glass in the air, it's the vegan version. You just throw the mushroom chili in the air to celebrate a goal. So yeah, I would describe that as vegan chili. Sure, that's what that feels like to me.

And that's for Jamel, who I know is a big street fighter head. So you know it. Thank you so much. You can tell. Jamel Johnson, where are you at? Give me words, feelings to describe where you're at. Funny enough, I also have a food thing. Two words for me.

Cold cuts. Uh-huh. Cold cuts. Just so many little slices of nitrates and delicious flavor. Heart stopping. Cancering. Yeah, definitely going to end my life a little sooner than I'd probably want it to. Yeah.

And I don't even care. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Take it in, man. Take it in because it's looking all right. For me, I don't know what it is. It's what I texted y'all when Hinkapier and Max came on, the dog and the boy. Because it sounds like an old folk tale. But when the, we, you know, famously, I feel who, what was it, Jamel? Was you who pointed out the tweet about Piero Hincapier being like, it's kind of, it is like a dog or was that you who said that? That's like a dog driving car. Oh, Chris. again, some person we should find out here

the person on Twitter is because it's just like it's the perfect encapsulation of a football player. He's driving a car a well. Yeah, exactly. Where you're like, oh, okay. But at the end of the day, like, man, that's a motherfucker fucking dog behind the wheel.

Are we okay? Turns out we're okay. Turns out the boy is also the fucking man. And shout out to Peter Drury's commentary on that because that gave me when he's like, this is his kingdom.

This is his magic moment. The boys. Are arsenals! Can you put that on? I haven't heard that. Oh, my God. I'm so fucking good. Any fan of any team should notice,

when your team wins a big game, important game. You got to get Drew. You just, you go get Drew, but also you spend, like, here's what yesterday. I like pretended I needed a shit

so I could go upstairs and just sit on the toilet and watch more Arsenal content. So I just couldn't say to my wife, like, I don't want to look after my son for 10 minutes because I need to rewatch the same goal 50 times. She went to bed and I said, I know you're asleep next to me.

I watch match the day on my laptop like I'm asking my mom for permission. Rewatched it, but put on this. Hold on, let me find the, here we go. So way in behind for a corner. All right, so this is it from the corner. James Carter takes. Pickford's still competing for it. Here we go.

Taking away here at pace. Oh, cutting through the cold. Cut! Have it, Max. This is his king. I don't know what the fuck you was trying to say, but fuck yeah, bro. When he said kingdom and magic moment, I'm like, is this Disneyland? Yeah, yeah.

And that's fine because, you know, that's where we all go to believe. But anyway, what a fucking match. Here we are. And on top of that, city drop points. So, God, guys, it's my fucking veins are fucking vibrating right now. It's coursing through me. But, yeah, Arsenal 2, Everton, nil. the shit was so fucking stressed.

Oh, my fucking God. But it felt like one of those games where, like in the course of a magical season, like you need these games. You know what I mean? Like, unfortunately, remember that one season when Reese Nelson scored against Bournemouth at the death?

And that felt like, holy shit, man. These are the kinds of things you need like in these magical seasons. To have young Max Downman come on to put the fucking just really put the finishing touches on the match was really something. Where do we start?

What do we, where, where? I think you've got to start with Dowman. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I mean, they came on late in the match and it felt like the game needed something. When Max came on his sub, it felt like one of those moments where as a fan, I'm like, yeah, sure, he can play. But I'm not sure. We put it all on this 16-year-old shoulders right now.

But also, I think all of us as fans and knowing how good Max Dalman were part of us was like, he might have to do something. I don't know. He might be the difference. And he did it, man. I'm so fucking, I can't even describe how happy I am for him. I'm hungover. Yeah, right?

That's how I feel. I feel like I'm drunk. I haven't had a drink in like, I don't know, a week. But I truly felt like I drank a bunch of shot. I woke up today. With shoes on in the bed, it was all fucked up. All from that goal. Yeah.

Yeah. Mate. No, I mean, I was in this pub and it was obviously full of Arsenal fans. And I turn and I just lock eyes with this boy that's like the same eight. Must have been like a year younger than Dalman. Okay. And the kid in his eye, the kid looked like he, the kid like had this look in his eyes. Like he couldn't believe like, it was like Santa.

He was like the kid in the Santa Claus. He found out Tim Allen was Santa. Right. The whole time, and he's his dad. And he just couldn't believe his eyes. He witnessed Tim Allen killed the first Santa Claus. Claus. Remember that?

But he actually hated that Santa Claus, so he's delighted. Yeah, he was like, oh shit. That guy was terrible with me. But this kid's just like, it's something funny. Also, I forget, I'm like nearly 40 now. So I have, like, even in the playground before I was chatting some kid in Arsenal top, he's like, 11 about the game. And I'm like, chatting to these kids.

And then it is weird. Right every week he comes up, I'm chatting to these boys. And then I see one of them to score a goal at that. And then I'm like tearing up. I was texted. tears in my eyes. I was like, genuinely. Hannah was like, did you have tears?

Like, she looked to me again like I was mentally ill. She said, oh, yeah. Did you have tears in your eyes when Max Damond scored a goal? When it's been this long, you know what I mean? Yeah. Also, can we talk about how thin his mustache is? You know, I get it, bro. I get it.

Just shave it. Yeah, you don't got to do it. Hey, you got the braces, boy. Don't come on now. He's doing the like, he's doing the like, I haven't really quite gone through puberty, puberty. like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like, mate, you don't need, no one cares.

You're playing for Arsenal. Yeah, exactly. You could go through puberty when you're 40. We won't care as long as you do that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't put that like struggle mustache on. And I get it. You're in a locker room full of man.

You're like, yeah, let me get mine. No, he's not. He's not in a locker room for a man. He's got his own, he's got changing his own room. Oh, that's right. Yes. But I mean, like, you know what I mean? Like, he trains.

He trains with the first year. So on some level, he's like, yeah, let me get, I got my little mustache too. truly was painted all with pencil, but I get it. I had a mustache. Actually, I have that mustache. Yeah, I should be talking about. It's a little John Watersy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's definitely like for me too. I don't also have just, I think just my half Japanese genetics. My facial hair does look like max. I have Max down my facial hair. So actually I should shut the fuck up. But Max, you look great. That was wonderful.

The Califiori block too. When he went full yoga scorpion pose to block that fucking. shot, I, I remember seeing that. I'm like, here's the fucking goal. I'm like, here it is. It's point blank. We're desperate. And the way he, like, he got the cleanest contact with the ball like that as if he was

volleying it from like kicking his hind legs up back in the air. That was one of those moments too that just felt like a ton of special moments. And then even Hincapier had a real clutch tackle towards the end of the game that really helped. Did the, you know, kind of pocket down. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He did the, I'm trying, I'm seeing when I see, I like, I do find it funny when a player's

I think he did the slide tackle. Did he do it for the throw in and then it went out? For the throw in, yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh, that's what I. They're like, it's a fun prevalence in the game, the celebration of a good tackle. But I'm like, how big a celebrate? Can you do full goal celebration off a tackle? Could he run to the corner flag and smash it down and style?

All right, mate. cheer and get this crowd-sighted up. We still got two minutes, man. She can go left at any moment. You know what I mean? Should have been a penalty. I mean, should have been a penalty. That was the most insane.

On Havre's. Yeah. Well, yeah. Well, yeah. This decisions. No idea. It's because refs, refs hate Kai Haverts in a different kind of,

it might go back to World War II. I'm not so sure what it truly is. No, that makes a year. He's physical. He's always putting two hands on people. He's always wants to touch guys. And anytime he touches anyone, He never gets the benefit of the doubt, you know, and he just had his arm out.

But even I didn't notice that he clearly got hit in the fucking foot. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's also his. Also, he's got his facial hair too. He got like shoplifter face. So I feel like he's not getting any sympathy from refs. You know what I mean? His face is posted in a Western Union.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He does a little bit. He's got a bit of a splinter from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles vibe to the face. Yeah. A mutant rat. Yeah, but he, but I love him. Yeah, he's our mutant rat. Just Kai if you're listening.

Yeah. It was very bizarre because it was like, VAR, like, it was, I honestly think they were just like a one angle, that's fine. Like, the point is, by all means to do it quickly, at least check a couple angle. It's like when you say to like a kid, like, like, oh, is there something on TV and you, like pretend to look? And you're like, no, it's not on anymore. Because I, no, no, no, your one job is the VAR is. to just check a couple of angles.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, so you're really phoned in if you're, someone's like, hey, is this on? You just kind of go over your shoulder like, no, man, it's all off. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Is there ice cream?

No, it's closed. It's like it's like, it's like, it's like often, it's too in the afternoon. No, they shut. Too hot outside. Too hot outside for it. Too hot. Yeah, it melts the ice cream.

It's like that bit and I think you should leave season one where he's like, it's too cold for ice cream. And like the Bob Odenkirk characters. trying to help you out with that. But once that happened, I was like, well, this feels like one of those games. But I will say, I thought Arsenal is the best Arsenal have played in quite a few weeks.

I thought Eza looked good. And we didn't have a ton of clear-cut chances. But in the second half, it felt that kind of old-school thing. Arsenal were just suffocating, constantly piling the pressure on with the ball. And as weird as it is again, I had this, like, I still thought we'd have, I did think him skying the ball

down when he skied the ball. That might have been our last big chance. Yeah, when it like, was just on a, like, he was just on a, like, he was calling for it. For like, he knew, he was like,

just get it to me, get it to me, get it to me, gesturing at his feet. And when it came, you're like, here you go, man, okay, and you're leaning back,

like Fat Joe. But to be, but to be semi, semi-objective for Everton, I thought, I mean, they had the second best away record going into the game.

Yeah. They played just how I thought. They bless you, the post of McNeil and then enjoy, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he, he, um,

he get the ball ricocheted of him. I was like, they've, they're actually, you know, trying to attack us a little bit more. But then the second half, they really did sink deep.

Oh, yeah. And they sucked, I got a bit of hope when they subbed off two players for two people that looked as young as Dalman. I was like,

that's, that's good. I just saw that. I was like, that was, yeah. They don't even have the weird, they didn't have the weird tash.

At least Downman's got a little bum fluff on his, Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when I saw those kids come in looking like, it was like D-Day before the boats were about to open up and they were going to land on Normandy Beach, I could see it in their eyes. And I felt like Vernon Maxwell, who had a famous quote where he said,

oh, we got a bitch tonight. Because I was like, I don't know how much they really had to do with any of like the goals, but it just felt something like, if this is what you got, man, I like our odds if you're putting on younger kids, but it really didn't. I don't think it had much bearing on the actual events of the match.

Aside from Max Downman, I think a lot of people were talking, like, I mean, that one cross, people are trying to take a lot away from Max Dowman's performance. And I don't think that's right, because I think just generally people just want to shit on Arsenal every moment.

That's the most British thing in the world, by the way, just to be like a 16-year-old is the youngest goal scorer in the Premier League history is doing stuff that no adult almost on the planet can do. People are like, yeah, it's just the goalkeeper. It's so British.

It's just the player. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is so, like, what's the point of that? I mean, okay, sure, Pickford maybe came out and obviously fucked that up. He could have, but the shape of the ball was enough that it threw Pickford off into a bad decision. So, like, you can't say it, you know, okay, it wasn't all exclusively the fact that he did that. Max Downman also had to have the audacity or just vision to be like, fuck it, let me get this into a good space in the box and ends up falling on a plate for Yacarus. Yeah, I mean, the ball was so good.

a dog could get it down and make a play on his head. Off his crutch. Yeah. Did he get the assist for that? He should. He should. He should. He's got to be the assist.

The victim, very funny, Giacura's goal, we have to say again, where like, that is the weird thing where people who, and I am in the dubious camp, but I don't know if Kai, everyone who's like, there's some people online who are like, Kai Havans wouldn't have, we will never know. It doesn't really matter. But funny, just a funny play. Like, what if he, especially before that, he'd been on for about 20 minutes, and I think I three times saw him unable to pass it to someone four yards away from him, kicked it out for a throw in,

kicks it straight to their play. And I was like, watching this guy going, this is, I was like, how is he playing for Arsenal? And then he scored a goal that, again, anyone technically could score, any of us could have scored that if we were standing there, but would we've been standing there is we'll never know. But, yeah.

There was a couple balls that nobody got on when Haverts was in the game. I think soccer had one that Pickford got a hand to, maybe Asi Ade did too, because Haverts so far away from the goal, you know what I'm saying? He's linking up shit in the middle of the field. Yeah. No, I mean, it

you could see the difference between the two having them on and not on the field, but there was also the Bucayo of it all, too. I'm just, I'm wondering like, is he going to figure it out by the World Cup? Because I'm like, you're taking a second. And I get the hamstring injuries are not the same,

especially for a player that plays like him, that you're trying to explode off of that first step and stuff, and you're maybe being a little more conservative because you're still kind of like, you know, I don't want to have a setback or anything like that. But that's one part that I'm really looking at. I'm like, I'm Bukayo. I thought he played okay.

He played okay. Compared to the past couple weeks, yeah, and I'm not trying to shit on it because there's a ton of people that are just straight up shitting on and be like, he's cooked,

whatever. I'm like, no, man, he just, he's finding himself again, but I just wish we could just get something

a little bit more magical out of him. That's really just for my own, I think, for the fairy tale ending of this season. Like, I also want to have good memories of Bukayo and, you know,

the mat, yeah, you don't want it to be like, he's been, he's, he's, battled for Arsenal for many years. So, like, if they win it, it will feel like

he's, you want him to fill a big part of it. He's the, he's the most expensive player at the club. I think he's looked better. He just looks a little bit, getting his shot off. He looks a little bit, like a yard off in that respect. Yeah. But he's had a couple of extremes. I feel like this season's a kind of rebuilding season,

injury-wise, after the last season's massive hamstring pop. But, you know, he's also good enough that you can play inside and let down and play on the right. And I mean, once Arsenal changed the shape, it didn't, it didn't affect us in a negative way. But it bodes well. I think it bodes well. Artetta went a little bit more like, let's play. And just, I think Ezra should get a bit of props.

I think he, he looked good. He got a couple of good shots off, and he got on the ball more. And I think Artetta was playing, getting the team to play a bit more to him. And Califuria again, I mean, in Capia and Califuri is two option. I was with like two Liverpool fans just now. and they were just like, they wanted in cap it. They're like, Arsenal just keep getting these like hybrid centerback fullbacks. Yeah.

It's hovering them up. Yeah. Is it weird that I immediately thought what the California scorpion kick would look like in his underwear? Is it weird that I did that? Like I was just, I see the high, when I look at the highlight of him doing it. Yeah. Give me some more detail. Give me some more detail.

I see him in Adidas underwear. Sure. Oh, you're picturing that. I'm picturing the ad. I'm picturing him doing it, Nick. Okay. Part of me is like, yeah, that's shit weird. But then now that you say that,

I've never actually seen him with his clothes on. Because in my mind, I'm immediately undressing him every time I see him. So I don't even realize. I'm just making sure it wasn't just me. So, no, you're basically, you have to dress him because your default is you see him undress. He's nude.

Yeah, yeah. So you need to add layers to him. Mental layer. mental labor has to go into that. But yeah, here we are looking pretty good, looking pretty good. You know, I want to get ahead of myself. You know, I really do. But there's still some time left.

But my God. So is it weird that I always see Jordan Pickford just in like extra layers because I just don't want to see that man naked? Oh, yeah, yeah. I thought the reason he didn't get to the ball is because he had a really big puffer jacket on that just stopped his arm fully. extending to it. I see him in like a welder's like a jumpsuit. Like it's very

thick canvas. You know it's funny? I imagine him with a bike helmet on. His hair kind of looked like a bike helmet to me. I'm with you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. There's something about yeah, like the way his kit fits too. I'm like, you're wearing a sweatshirt. What's going on? Yeah. You know what? I have this theory about him over the past few years. Like once he became England's number one, there's like, I feel like players give him a little too much respect. Like, it's harder to score on him because everybody thinks it's hard to score on him.

Does that make sense? Oh, wow. I mean, he's definitely on his day. He's a great shot stopper. But I guess you're saying is like his reputation precedes him and people are like, man. Yeah, he's getting some Air Jordan. Gee, he had a real good World Cup a couple cups ago. I just think he shout.

He, he, I've never seen a man shout more unnecessary. I'd be so annoyed. And he could, he could make a lovely save and everyone does. every right. The next thing he goes, gah, he's just, yeah,

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So angry all the time. There was a clip. People were saying that on the, on that break where Dowman scored solo, that Declan Rice was like looking back

at Pickford and laughing, just like to fuck with him. I was like, oh, that's funny. That's, okay. Pickford's shouting. Where's a goalie? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Where is he? Who wasn't that missed that? Who was it that missed that? Who was it that missed the last tackle on downman who just, who just, you know, it was like, What was it, Doosbury Hall?

It was Mr. Hall, I believe. Yeah, our favorite wedding venue. Yeah. The second he went, it's just wild. He just pounded the ground because he knew, he was like, fuck, bro. He just skated right by me. Oh, shit.

Got to say, though, he's the youngest goal score in Premier League history, 16 years, 73 days. Before that, it was James Vaughn, 16 years, 270 days, then Milner, then Wayne Rooney, October 2002. That was against Arsenal. David Moyes has seen three of the last of the top five youngest goal scorers play. So the man, I don't know, he was there for the,

the Wayne Rooney one was against us back in 2002. That's an iconic first goal. Insane debut goal where you're like, okay, maybe this kid's got something. And then James Vaughn and Max Dalman, so, you know, Moyse, you've seen it all. Do you want a fact of the youngest ever top flight goal scorer?

Who? Pre-premier league, because it's, that football existed before. Jason Dazel, ex-Tottenham and Ipswich player. I know that. A friend asked me that question two hours ago. But yeah, in the 80s, I don't know exactly. He has to actually look up how old he was.

Did he create Zell as well? The payment app? The payment app. Yes, he did. Fired, bro. Jason does. Jason does Zell. That's how he does. Jason does it.

Yeah, rebranded. He was a 16-year-old. So 16 and 57 days. Oh, fucker. So literally by what, 16 days or some shit? Yeah. That's crazy. We'll take it.

We'll take it. We're recording on a Sunday. He's tomorrow, Monday. He's going to go in double history. What does that act? How do you act normal after that? It's insane. To actually be 16 and actually be the fucking man.

Like on the level of like Harry Potter, like, He just saved the school. Yeah. Yeah. And I don't, I actually don't know what I do. I saw Daniel Sturridge say he'd come in with the pit wall. Yeah, I would be walking like Daniel Sturridge. Like I was, like I had Magnolia by Playboy Cardi playing.

I would go to lunch. I would show, you know what I would do? Because I'd show up to every lunch. I go to every lunch. You know how high school has like four lunches? Depending on, yeah, what class you're in, sure. And I'm going to all of them. I'm not showing up to anything in the middle of the day.

I'll be holding court in the cafeteria. for all of Monday. I would probably be. I'd definitely be on my phone all day, Monday, looking at all the memes of me, looking at all the posts, being like, this kid's the fucking goat. And the teacher would be like,

Max, you pinch him. I'm like, what? No, bro. Just get on with the fucking lesson, man. Just trying to fucking basket my glory. I imagine he, here's a funny thing I was chatting to my mate last night about, so this,

he was watching, when I got home, there was the Man City, West Ham game on. There was also England. in the rugby against France. So he had the rugby on. He's more of a rugby guy. You guys have no idea.

It's similar to American football, but, you know. Yeah. More blockish. Yeah, but less stoppages and stuff. Not sevens. It was the Six Nations final game. England, France needed to be, anyways, it was an amazing game.

But there was a player, we were talking about England's players and how he doesn't like. There was a maverick player a few years ago. Played for England a bit, but never got it called Danny Cypriani. He was two years below me when I used to play.

school and stuff. And I used to play for a club and he was two years below me. And then he managed to hook up with a girl in my year. And then I was like to my mate, that's when I knew who's going to be good. Because if a girl, I knew he's going to make it as a pro when a 15 year old could hook up with a boy, he'd hook up with a 17 year old girl. You know they're going to make it as a pro. Because that is that way around at that age is so unusual. you're like, he must be gifted. If she's attracted, she's attracted to a boy two years younger than her.

So Dalman, he's been playing up many years. I wouldn't be surprised if we, we don't want to get, we don't want to delve the guy still. Yeah, we don't need to go. But I imagine women from old years like him. Oh, yeah, the older class ladies are going to be like, hey Max.

You know what I mean? Oh, he's getting like outer stratosphere. Upper-class woman. I mean, yeah, I'm saying, I mean, like, upper-classmen, not from society and a socioeconomic class. Like, she drinks tea with a pinky out. Oh, she's like, hello, Max. Yeah, he's, he's, yeah, the ladies who lunch. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But good for you, bro. Keep growing that mustache, you know what I mean? The beard will come in soon enough. You know, he gets changed on his, he gets his own changing room, right? Do you reckon they put in, it's quite isolating that? And obviously, the other places have got, does he go? Is it because he can't be nude around adults? Is that the deal?

Yeah, I think that's what it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do they put other 16-year-olds to get sort of changed near him so he doesn't feel so lonely? Or do you reckon it? I like the idea that he's in that. Spam-boom squad. That he's in his like, you know, minors dressing room, solo, pitch black.

Like, he's a fucking animal just in the ready to come out the fucking day. He's solitary. He's in solitary. That's what Artetta does. You just hear chains jangling in there. They're like, what the fuck's max? You want to make it? You want to make it?

Speaking of Artetta, after the goal of the segment of the celebration where he starts doing Wolverine in like X2. Yeah. He says he was going to. I thought he had claws. Berserker mode. Getting ready for a game means being ready for anything. Like packing a spare stick. I like to be prepared.

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Plus TikTok's most influential creators all in one place. Search for IHard TikTok radio. Make it a preset and stay connected all day. Should we move on to West Ham and Cite? Yeah. Really, the real story here is, y'all want to keep talking about that bottle shit, bro. Talk to me about a team who can't beat Nottingham Forest.

Talk to me about a team who can't beat West. This is the shit we used to go through and be like, we're not winning the league if we're drawing a fucking West Hamill way. You know what I mean? We're not winning the league if we can't beat Forrest, who's in a fucking regulation. They drew the forest twice. Yeah.

They drew the forest two weeks in the fucking row. Essentially. Bernardo Silva with the, would we call that a cross come shot? How does that work? Or just, it's one of my favorite. I love cross-cum shot. That's coming in it. Yeah, yeah.

I remember the first time I saw it on Sky Sports, like, because I couldn't watch a match, so I just had like the live ticker. It was the first time I'd ever seen in my life, and I thought there was a typo. I'd never heard it before in my life. And me and my boy were like, you could watch a match, you could only watch a little preview clip. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was like, what is a cross come shot? Yeah, it's never heard of that shit. I could imagine what that is actually. Yeah, yeah, it's, uh, there's some kind of, yeah, religion joke there. No, I'm thinking of cross in terms of the British. Do you guys say someone's cross that? No, no, no, but I do know because I'm terminally Brit-brained.

Yes, yeah, you're much British man I've ever met. Oh, oh, sorry, Eka-TK almost scored. We should, we should let people know. we are recording as the Tottenham Liverpool match is happening. It's in the 70th minute right now and Liverpool is winning 1-0. Can I tell you a funny stat from the West Ham

and City game? Man City 24 shots. West Ham won. My God. 24 shots. And look at you. All it took was Constantinos Mavrapanos, the man Arson-Venger signed years ago to fucking give us

the equalizer. He's done it again. Yeah. He's done it again. What happened first? Did they build the Emirates or did he sign Maverpanos first? Firmly in the Emirates era. Oh,

and then he brings in Maverpanos to start the incantation. Exactly. Which has now been completed once his face got pushed in like training. Dude, that fucking shot that he blocked with his face, the still image of it, I'm like, your face got to be like all the way fucked up. Taking a Holland blast. this point blank like that. Yeah, yeah.

He's definitely going to look like Owen Wilson in a couple weeks. I got to imagine. It'll settle in like that. Or like, as you know, David Raya had his whole shit smashed in too back of the day. He almost died. You know, that's like, that's not his real face. Is it? Did he have a full reconstruction?

What? Yeah, yeah. David Ria had his face smashed. Like, everything's different in his face. Did they add the beard too? Did he have, did he tell him ages? Yeah. A little permanent.

Yeah. Yeah. His new hair he got added, his new wavy hair. That's been, throw that in a few months later, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, God, bro, I'm just, I don't know what to say. I laughed at a city fan that I know. And I said, look, bro, you guys got to win these matches.

This is going to be close. You guys got to win me. Do you think that they must have known about the Arsenal result? And they would have, I think the way Arsenal won that game, it's hard to know. You're doing intangible stuff of mentality. but I'm sure they would have been like, oh, they're dropping points,

we've got a chance, and then Arsenal's running 89th minute, and they're like, okay, and then once Maverapanos gets, yeah, and also Silver's goal, he didn't mean that, right?

He pretended he meant it, but there's no way he meant that. You could tell he was checking for that backpost, I think Holland was on the back post, and you're like, yeah, here you go, you're trying to stand it up, ended up being a nice little dink over the keeper,

but yeah, he didn't mean that shit. I'm always on the side of the play, I meant to win the game. That means I meant to do that shit. That's all me. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And in a way, it's like, it doesn't matter, bro.

Because you put ball in goal. You know what I mean? As much like, it's the same way I feel about Bam out of bio's 83 points, but I'm not going to tell what this shit right now. Yeah, please don't mention that to me. I'm so sorry. Like, you got to do the hoop enough to get 82 points, but is it the same shit? I don't know.

Yeah, so cities is blanket. Yeah, why is the bottle bottle? Yeah, why is the bottle bottling? It's just because they're, they're getting older. Like, no, everybody was just sucking Simeonio off Saying he looks so good Oh, their fans lost it on him. Like being, he missed the chance right.

He became the village for them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think- First game he hasn't scored in for them. Yeah, to your point though, Chris, like it was one of those things where I remember when we were chasing City 2 Where there's that thing happens, you're like, Okay, here's our chance.

And you're like, fuck, bro. How did they just fucking pull that out and have like a fairy tale goal where this boy comes on and scores like a just open netter fucking arms, you know, just arms wide open, taking in all the glory.

And that does fuck you up a little bit because it does feel like that, there's like that inevitability part of it where it does kind of feel like that where we just, no matter how hard stuff they try, we're figuring it out. Ugly, beautiful, whatever,

but we're doing it. And I'm sure that's got to be a tough. Well, I was just going to say, one thing that we've got to talk about is how Erling Harland started his YouTube channel in October 2020, end of October 2025.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'd love to see someone pull up the goals before October the 23rd after October 23rd. It can't be, you know, peps going for a divorce. Harlan's trying to get subscribers. They are not focused on the...

Artetta. Imagine if one of his players was like, Can I have a YouTube channel? Yeah, you can. And I'm going to, yeah, sure, sure, sure. You can do it. Okay, guys. Guys, we all set up 20 profiles and we fucking troll his motherfucker until he shut,

he has a mental breakdown and he closes his channel. That's exactly what I'll tell you. There's no way he would be letting Dowman have a YouTube channel. No way. You know, you know soccer ask. You know soccer asked a couple years ago. Yeah, yeah. Can I show off my new balance?

No, no. Get your shit together, boy. Yeah, yeah. Win some championships. Okay, let's lift some trophies. Then we can talk about it. And then he was like, well, Holland got one. He's like, well, how many trophies Holland won?

Yeah. Okay. And then maybe you get your YouTube. There's something when you said Max Dowman having one, it like, as a parent really freaked me out. I'm like, don't fucking start a YouTube channel, Max. You got so much more to offer, bro. And I'm afraid to hear what your takes are.

on shit. He's got to worry. It's funny because back in the day when, you know, like the 80s, he'd worry about his players coming through Paul Merson, they're going to be, they're getting into the alcohol culture. They're going to become, his head.

Now it's like, don't let him, don't let him follow too many TikTokers and trends. Don't let him get on KSI. Stay away from him. If he finds out what Andrew Tate is, yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Did you, did you see that Louis Thoreau Manosphere documentary that just came out? I just started watching it. I'm like, oh, God, Max, don't be listening to them. Don't listen to them. They listen to those guys. But it sounds like he's got a good head on. Mikkel Arte de was like, the way he's being raised at home and a hail end, we're just so proud.

I'm like, okay, good. That's like the one good thing is. You know, they don't let that boy go home? He hasn't been home in months. Yeah, is it that they got wholesome parents that are raised them well or were literally, we were imprisoning these kids. We're like, bro, we will not let the outside world. Mikel killed his real parents and hired, he then hired in some parents.

seen auditions. Two pickpocket parents. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Guy, this guy is so good. We need to get it. But the parents, they're not the fogging standards. We need to get. Guys, we need shapeshifters, guys.

Shape shifters guys to be his new parents, guys. We need something. How strict are you with bedtime? How strict? Yeah, yeah. Get him down? Um, well, we let him. No.

Not good enough. Okay. Okay. Okay. Jesus. And Max is like, is it okay if I call my parents gaffer? He's like, fine, one phone call. And he's like, how's, hey, mom, how's Wolfie?

Oh, Wolfie's just fine. And he realizes like a Terminator. He's like, you force the parents are dead. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. My dog's called Max. My dog is called Max. And she said, Wolfie's just fine.

They're dead. Aren't they, McHale? My dog has the same name. My dog has the same name as bitch. My parents love the name Max. So much. Oh, forgot. loved Max so much. He named his dog that too. I think it's what that Bible verse was.

Harland looks like Jokerez. I mean, I'm not saying Jokers is at Harlem, but Harland's, without the goals, you're like, you know, against Madrid in the week. He'd have like four times or something. I feel like that's where kind of like you realize maybe the peak version is what we're going to figure out. I don't know if we're going to sign us. I mean, we probably will sign a striker if we, if Gabby Jesus leaves. But, you know, you want someone who can finish but also can really play together and doesn't feel like a sort of black hole once, you know, when they're on the pitch.

Because, yeah, like, Yocchrez is a very specific kind of player. You know what I mean? And we need to get him the ball in very specific ways. And I just feel like, I don't know, maybe he can figure that out in the offseason, but I just feel like that's just kind of not in his back. Like, he's just a straight up finisher.

So we'll see. Do you think it's done? Do you think that's done? Do you, would you, I mean, obviously next week, next you'll be closer to know. obviously as it is everything. Maybe not next week because it's Carabacupacup, but you know what I mean.

We'd have to lose two, like city, if city, like, I mean, I was just looking at all the different permutations and I'm thinking like, okay, if city drops points again,

the number is even lower that we have to hit to clinch the title. So we could do it with a loss and wins. There's a few ways that it can be done. I, barring injuries, I don't know, it's just so fucking hard.

You know, like I want to say, fuck yeah. That's over, bro. This shit is over. But I think for enough of us that have followed this team long enough, it feels so precarious and feels delicate still. Like you don't want to say shit because, my God, if we don't fucking do it,

I will turn into a pile of dust. I'll be like Obi-Wan Canobi at the end of the season. There would just be a pile of Arsenal jerseys. And the person who I once was is gone. It's just always something on the other side, man. Yeah. Real Madrid beat them so bad. They were about to get knocked out of chance.

Champions League, which means they'll just have more time. Right. Yeah. I just think, no, that you look at them, the differences like, they'll drop more points, is what I see. Well, I was going to say them away at Chelsea, I think I said last week, them away at Chelsea, they'll definitely lose. But depending on where the huddle is next in that game for the Chelsea team,

who they put in the middle of that huddle, we will know. But they're going to drop more points. Definitely, city. So I think it's done. Yeah, because Chelsea's a Chelsea away. I mean, it felt like Everton away? Yeah, Everton away. Burnton.

Everton only loses at home. They only lose at Hill Dickinson. That's true. That's true. But yeah, I definitely feel the points are there for dropping. I mean, look, our next matches are Bournemouth at home, then Sidia away, Newcastle at home, Fullham at home, West Ham away, Burnley at home. Those first, those three games, actually, when you say them out loud,

a toughish, like Newcastle, a little bit more resurgent. Yeah, right. You're right. I think it's, I think, I think it felt, last night felt like, it felt like, yeah. But I mean, like you said, the moments have happened before. Exactly. We're continuously playing people in their best moments.

My brain did immediately flip to Champions League. When we got this like nine point gap, I was like, fuck, man. Are we going to blow this shit to Leverkusen on Tuesday now because of this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like we'll be, I feel, yeah, at home. And now it's like a match where it's like, it just feels more like, okay,

we got to win this game to keep going. And that feels like the same assignment we've had in other matches. Like, okay, y'all, go out there and win. The second half of the game yesterday did feel like home got unlocked. Like everybody was like, you know what I'm saying? Like the Manchester United game, everybody's like all up their butt. Everybody's like real upset. Like it's super tense.

But like something switched yesterday. where the crowd kind of like snapped out of it and was like, no, we just need to just fucking keep chanting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When we start singing, like, it's funny, we don't always sing the, by far the greatest scene of the world has ever seen. It's usually like after a goal

is when you start hearing the crowd sing that. When we start singing it before a goal, I'm like, okay, I like this. I like the belief that, like, word, the energy feels a little bit different than as pensive as it is. But I think, again, after that Brighton result and then this one, the belief is increasing.

Increasing. All right, should we talk about Huddlegate? Yeah, baby. That's what it's even being called. So Chelsea Newcastle. This is the biggest thing of the weekend, actually. It really is. It's the stupidest, it's the most Liam or a senior.

Like, this is this shit we've been praying for. Because it's more like people, I love that aim. There are more people questioning, like, the Chelsea friends like, is this guy fucking dumb or something? Like, is this guy a fucking joke? Especially after that PSG game. But with this one, Anthony Gordon puts them ahead. Defense was a mess.

And then they lose one nil. But before the game starts, the pre-match huddle is happening right at midfield, right at the fucking center circle. And Paul Tierney is putting the ball down because they're about to kick off. And then it's like the gathering of the juggaloes around him, all getting huddled up. And it's just the most awkward thing I've ever seen. Like Paul Tierney doesn't move.

He's kind of like, oh, what the fuck are y'all doing? And everyone else is sort of like, fuck it, bro. We're going to do this shit right here. He's the nucleus of this team now. What the fuck was that? I think it's a new take on the spirit tunnel. It's a little, it's a little Jennifer Hudson. We are proud of you.

Said we are proud of you. The camera pounding around, they're going like 3,6, in Paul Taney's so. But then like him not saying anything. anything about I'm like, this is so weird. And like, then now Liam Rasini's

wants to complain to PGMOL that the ref, I think it's because he's saying the players did it round the ball the other week. And the ref were standing there, like as in, he's saying the ref standing there

to stop them having it, like, messing up the center circle or the ball or something. But it's so weird. Cole Palmer looks like, he looks like the naughty boy. You know, like you're in a museum trip

with a school and you're supposed to go And he's just like, he's like, he even, yeah, yeah, even drew, someone drew a dick on that. It looks like a dick. Like, that's his kind of energy. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's or the kind of person where it's like, you see like an old Renaissance painting, but there's like a nude like woman in it.

And he's like, hey, bro. Yeah. You see that. You see your boob, dude. Cole Palmer definitely had, he definitely had the pen where you turn upside down. A woman's dress came down and she was naked at school. Oh, yeah, yeah. But he's like loving it too.

He's like, mate. see. Oh, brilliant, man. Like so fucking pumped up. He's like, watch this,

man. There is. There is. He would, he definitely be on the mannosphere Louis Thru doc if, if he wasn't a professional footballer.

Yeah, but he's like, poor man's version. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, Louis Thoreau,

like, so what, what are your views on like femininity? Oh, mate. Look at this pen. You guys,

He goes. Boobes, I love women. I love women. If I didn't love women, why would have a naked one on my pen? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Have it. He's screaming at a pen right now. Oh, cool. But yeah, the whole thing was, okay, he's saying he wants to talk to the PGMOL. What's his quote here? Liam Mors Sr. on the huddle around the referee. He said, quote,

my players made a decision that they wanted to be around the ball to respect the ball. such LinkedIn behavior right here to respect the ball because mind you hold a door open for the ball yeah yeah exactly take it on a date

get enthusiastic consent from the ball before we fuck this thing up the thing that was happening too is it wasn't even Chelsea's kickoff to start the match it was Newcastles which was even weird because it's like y'all aren't even kicking off but I think maybe that's their like

dominance ritual is to like huddle around the center and be like this is our whole thing It's like the hacker, like that kind of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have we seen the ref cam yet? Is there any ref cam footage? That's a good point, that's right?

Yeah, yeah. It would be awkward as hell. Weirdly the, weirdly the ref cam was turned off for this part, suspiciously. Yeah, body cam went off. Huh? Interesting. Okay, interesting.

Interesting. Wow, PGMO L. Yeah. I wonder what you didn't want us to see from your point of view. The H.C.'s like Cole Palmer's holding a little penned. Yeah. I guess that's the thing. And this one account of it said,

the Chelsea players appeared thrown off by Tierney's presence. Referees are expected to remain impartial, and being part of a team talk could be seen by either side is showing favoritism or crossing a boundary of professional conduct. This is what Resonior said, quote, we were told in the rulebook it's about timing. I just want to find a solution to this. We're talking about something that's nowhere near important as what happened.

And you're like, what? Well, what's funny is the positioning of the players there, if they could actually be better a position himself on the field in the game, they wouldn't have let in one of the weird, that goal looked hilarious. I mean, I think Reese James was doing man marking on, it was man marking,

right? So he was following someone that was just the world's biggest gap for Joe Willett to run into. Just insane. And then Anthony Gordon, he actually nearly missed tapping. But yeah, I was just like, if you do that,

you have to win the game if you do something as absurd as that. You can't defend like that and lose. Yeah. again, he keeps going. After the press conference, Rossina goes, quote, I'm disciplined, again, talking about that. He said, from my end, it's a show of respect from the players.

We're not trying to annoy anyone else. It was a sign of respect. It was disappointed to see the referee stood in the middle, like it's a huge problem. He didn't stand there. Like, it was a huge problem. He's like, what are you all doing? Okay, I guess I'm in it.

I feel like every week, Liam Rosania, it's either like, which half of the field are you warming up? And everything is not about the game. It's about some weird thing before the game. It's just a bunch of excuses, man. He's a tweaker, bro. Also, if you make it about this, you don't have to make it about what the fuck is going on at center half on that team.

Like, y'all got fucking big problems in the back. Old goalkeeper. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. He said, I'm disappointed. My players made a decision to huddle around the ball to show unity. It's not my decision. There's nothing disrespectful about it. If Paul had focused more on his job, which is to make the right decision,

we might have had a penalty today. Let's focus on the things that are important. Okay, okay, okay. All right. Yeah, you should, I see what happened here. For seniors being a fucking weirdo and made him go talk to the ball. Like on some, you know what I mean? Like before the game, he was like, go out there and speak to him.

But you should have made Sanchez, dude. He's the only one who needs to have a conversation with the ball. Oh, the only stinks. Oh, no. No. Yeah. Richardist and Big Daddy Richie just came through. Hang on.

He's also the draw goal. He didn't pick the ball out of the net. Ah, he ain't no time for that. He is also the king of the disallowed goal. Yeah. Can you imagine this guy? No, I think this is, this is getting a stand. He's also that celebration, right?

Yeah. You've just equal. You haven't won the game. What a position. But, you know, because for them, they were going in here expecting to get their shit kicked it. And then they're coming out of there with a point. Have we got confirmation of that? Yeah, who knows?

We'll get to that. We'll get to that when we cover this because, yeah, I'm still confused because, you know, they all look the same. Anything else? Should we just talk about United Three? Well, salute to Aaron Ramsdale just for being the first guy to win at Stamford Bridge with three different teams. I didn't know that. That's incredible. Oh, really?

Yeah, yeah. Good, good. Well, that's... Come on. What's that? Bornhamth, Newcastle and Arsenal. Yeah. Look at you.

Okay, Aaron. Doing okay. Everybody who got a little bit hated on in the last episode really shine this week, man. Yeah, that's true. Incredible. That's true what this show does, bro. We activate. We activate.

We bring things to life. We are the engine. Have you still got the activate button? Oh, should I activate Dorgoo? I mean, has Dorgo? Has he been activated? He's been injured. He's still injured.

Oh, yeah. Well, here we go. All we talked him up, he got injured. There we go. Yeah. He's activated here. That's going to cause him to be injured for an extra month. Yeah.

Or yeah. Whoops. Sorry. Look. Sorry, Patrick. We don't know the power that we have. But anyway, United Beat Villa 3-1. Seshko, still in the goals, man.

Motherfucker. Banging him in. Not another Konya goal with his weird-ass surfer, Ray Charles, piano player, celebrates. I don't know what he's doing. It feels a little. Is Ray Charles on a surfboard? I never thought about.

I'm like, his hands should be way further out for it to be like cowabunga. But his hands are like, like he's playing a web. He's going to look up his clicks later. We're on the web, bro. Check me out.

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Think about how many skills they have to develop at such a young age. What can we learn from all of the new F1 romance novels suddenly popping up every year? He still smelled of podium champagne and expensive friction. And how did a 2023 event called Wag Ageddon change the paddock forever? That day is just seared into my memory. I'm culture writer and F1 expert Lily Herman, and these are just a few of the questions I'm tackling on no grip, a Formula One culture podcast that dives into the under-explored pockets of the sport.

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The internet turned on him. If I could press a button and rewind it all I would. But what happened to Clayton after the show made even bigger headless. lines. It began as a one-night stand and ended in a courtroom with Clayton at the center of a very strange paternity scandal. The media is here. This case has gone viral. The dating contract. Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you. Please search for it. This is unlike anything I've ever seen before. I'm Stephanie Young. This is Love Trapped. This season, an epic battle of He Said She Said, and the search for accountability in a sea of lies.

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Tell me a sound that's better than this. Plus TikTok's most influential creators all in one place. Search for IHard TikTok Radio. Make it a preset and stay connected all day. I love seeing Villa lose, but I always feel bad for Leon Bailey whenever he fuck some shit up. He had a bad turnover.

For the second goal, like Villa equalized like 11 minutes later. And it also, yo, British commentary is amazing. I don't know who was doing the Man United game, but right after the equalized, by Villa, the announcer goes, Manchester United led for 11 minutes.

But the way he said it was so like disappointed in United, you know, like the tone. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah. It's not disappointed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You guys messed up.

Right. You guys blew this game. You really did it. Yeah. It was exactly like this. I just lost 50 pounds on that shit. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep.

The Seschgo goal was this kind of turned and burned it. I don't know if you saw that. He got a very lucky deflection. The assist from Fernandez for Cunia is top draw. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Brina Fernandez is personality-wise is quite annoying. But his final third, like, he's like, oh, yeah. His passing and shooting is top draw. I mean, it's obviously. He's got that. We're missing that type of just player, you know what I mean? Who's got the true quality. He's got a keys, mate.

Just be like, let me thread this, bro. Give me the needle because I'm threading. You know, something. about Bruno's Caitlin Clark energy, for me he, it feels like he should be on Villa. Him and Unae kind of belong together. Right, right.

The sulkiness? Just be with him or Liam, just give me one of these whiny, bitch ass managers. It was true. So he can thrive. So he can thrive. Somebody really flourish. Unai better be shaking. He's been losing so much recently.

He can't keep not shaking people's hands. So I hope he did shake Carrick's hand. We haven't had any any uh yeah yeah he finished a whole yeah you don't shake a hand all of 2026 that's ridiculous yeah yeah no handshs stats go up no handshakes in 2026 no handwashing he's like nine handshakes it's like the tiano barry handshakes what's the xh on that what's the expected handsh we can uh see for that oh wow man when i'm actually drunk my xh is ridiculous i'm an over handshake I will shake your hand shaker. Oh, yeah.

I am a like cereal dapper. Every round of drinks I have, I will need to touch your hands. As soon as the drinks land at the table, you're like, all right, let's do this. Yeah, let's go. We bet. Anything. Yeah, yeah. Any phrase, any.

To Barman or just to people you know, you're shaking hands with a barman? Anyone that I speak to, anyone I come into contact with. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Great. In any point in the conversation, you bring up a new topic. I'm dapping you up. You make a great point about the lesson. Yeah, man.

So, yeah, man, we have a lot of problems back at home, man. I feel like my wife and I was just like, we're not even seeing eye to eye. All right, bro. That's what so. Yeah, bro. That's what so. You know, though, mate. How's your mom doing?

Yeah, see, all right, man. I wish she was doing a little bit better. Oh, cool, bro. Where, where, where. Yeah, yeah. All right. I'll tell you what, though, in terms of drunken habits, that's got to be one of the best ones. Like, a lot of people get drunk and start fights.

you just get drunk and get extremely polite. Yeah, I just want to confirm vibes. When I'm hammered, I turn into an absolute gentleman. That's what I do. I'm curtseing. Oh, my God. Liverpool was on a 4V2 break and they couldn't get it done. I think the match is over.

And the whistle's about to go. I think this is it. Oh, man. We'll see. Okay. Oh, well. I guess I'll have to wait another week to find out what's going to go on in the relegation scrap but now look at them a point

above. It does mean that Igor Tudor probably won't get fired which he should have done it which is remarkable he didn't get fired. I know. I know. This is one of those matches where like you'd think like maybe it's just papering over the real bad parts about

like this team under Tudor where they're like we did get that draw at Anfield. All right it's over. There it is. 1-1. Oh what Tudor did actually dab up the right bald white guy at the end of the match. Okay. I can confirm that.

I can confirm that. That was an amazing clip, Chris, that you put on the radar. Before this match, Igor Tudor presumably goes to dapp up who he thinks is fucking R. D.D.S. But it's just some other bald dude in a bubble coat, which is so wild to me. I just want to play this again because it's just so funny to see.

Here he comes. He's also being flanked by another ball guy. Yeah. He's like, what's up? You see, there's, okay, and I was saying this happens. I mean, but also, who is that guy? It's, is that guy like, is that guy just R&A's slots like stunt double for, for these moments? Because the bloke, the bloke is standing there managerial style.

Right. Arm folded. Like, that can't be the fourth official, right? Like, he'd be wearing, like, a proper, you know, F-A kind of branded coat. Like, I wonder if he's just some con man who just snuck in. And he's like, no, bro, I snike out. That would be fired. I'd dapp up and then I fucking take my ass back into the tunnel.

It's the second look away where you know that Tudor knows is not slot. See, the first one, he's like, he starts looking over him. Yeah, because first he's like, okay, I'm from the back. He's like, what's up? I know from the back turns around. He said, hey, how you doing? He said, oh, right here he goes. Hold up.

You don't have that round. You don't got that round baby head. the RNA slot has. You got that same baby face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then, when he looks away, he's like,

he's like, where the real one? No, no, no. And they watched this tape at halftime, and then Igor made some in-game adjustments. There you go. Come on. Oh,

oh, oh, wait, he just dapped up the same dude at the end. I just caught this on Peacock. Hold on. Okay. This guy must know. Hold on. They're going to play this now,

because he's now trying to snow with it. He's now trying to snobled. style it out, is he? Well, I get that too. If I get a result, yeah, I'm tapping up the wrong Schlott again, bro. Yeah, yeah, because you'd be like, yeah, I meant that, bro.

That's my good luck charm. Yeah, that's my love. What I do, like, oh, you don't have a random, Mike guy? That's his version of a crystal. He just brings a bold, a bold man to touch before and after game. Slot area.

He catches him again. There he is. All right, boy, boy. There you go. See? All right. You caught him on the way out. You caught him on the way out, Igor.

You caught him on the way out. It's definitely that shit that happens, especially to black people with white people. Because, you know, some white people have, some white people have do not know the difference between races. It's unfortunate. I've been mistaken for C.J. Toledano before. I've been mistaken for other light skin black dudes before. It's just like a thing. Sometimes white people are like, they come in wrong and strong.

They're like, hey, CJ! And I'm like, what? And I, I'm so, when somebody does not recognize me, I do not play along. because it's confusing to me. And I go, oh, no, no, I'm Miles. Like, oh, shit, bro, I knew that. Hey, man. Good to see you, dude.

Good to see you. I always style it out. I'll be like, hey, Mike. And they go, I'm not, but, no, Mike is, have you seen Mike over there? Yeah. Mike, no. Hey, Mike, I'm not, Mike. He passed away.

He passed away. That's what I meant to say. I don't know if you heard. That's, it's, yeah, but let's make the best of it, huh? All right, man. Before he lost the weight, I used to get. little rel a lot. I actually got a lot of I got a lot of work off that.

They show up and they're like, little rel's real name is Jamel Johnson. I found out. That's what it says on this tax paper. Sudenims. You know how that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Sal for tax. Zap them up a few times. Yep. That is a big result though for Eagle. Yeah. I thought they were going to get spanked 4-0. I mean, after that fucking

athletic match. Midweek? I got to be honest, man. I've never seen a fan so confident in a Champions League in a like a big game that he brings enough ham slices. Bro. And bread for the whole section. Hell yeah.

Can you imagine? Can you imagine? The guy cooking. He just set up 40 Americo ham sliders. He got the ham. He brought the hamone out before fucking, even the. first half was over making boccadillos for everybody. You said, bro, what you want?

Yeah. I got it right here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want a plane? Got it. No cheese? Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're good.

Yeah, we have 4-1 right now. Like, unbelievable. I would have fired him once I saw the ham slices, I'll be honest, man. What do you think of that sequence? Because I think, first of all, I think that everyone's shitting on Kinski's not fair. The, like, oh, I've never felt more sorry for a person. I felt, oh, my God, bro. I've never.

I've never seen a keeper getting me feel sorry for them repeatedly and their players. It's like, that's how bad they are. It's not even funny. It's just like, poor one out for the guy. Did you see that there's conspiracy theories that Athletical is keeping that pitch soggy and slippery as fuck? Because even in their La Liga matches, you have people slipping around because that's their dark arts version. A little secret arts because they, I mean, because they're like, if you can play possession-based football, we'll just make this fucker unplayable, okay? Well, yeah, you got to. I mean, Real Madrid has their own government.

We got to have something. Give us a little extra water. Shit. But yeah, I mean, like, I think because the slips he had, if you look, Van de Ven slipped for that second goal. There was a slip for the Julian Alvarez goal. Like, the pitch was just fucking messy. Or no, it was the first one where he slipped. And you can just tell, like, when your confidence is that dodgy and you've been thrown into the deep end like that, I think the other part that fucked me up was like when Tudor just was like basically like,

you're dead when he came off the fucking pitch. That's your fucking diabolical. That's like that's why I'm very surprised they've just drawn against Liverpool when I was like that. Well, in Tudor's explanation. You see his explanation? What do he say? Afterwards, he was just like, I mean. He was like, fuck them kids.

Well, he was like, I'm pretty sure Kinski wants to kill himself. I was going to let him just be in that space. You know what I'm saying? He was like, if you fucked up so bad that you wanted to kill yourself, would you want to a hug from your coach? He's not working for the Samaritans anytime soon. No, no, definitely not. When he's like,

myself and you just hear him going, oh, bro, all right. Go do that over there. Go get that away from me. Get that away from me, Lord. Why did you tell me about it? I want to know. Could you just pretend, say you're not going to kill yourself and then please go kill yourself.

Please just away from me. I don't want. Please, just it's killing the vibes. You know what I mean? The other thing. too is what you hear is like this is a V-9 and Kashitam and Lange call from Tottenham, right?

It's to get Igor in there. And a lot of it too is like, for their position at the club, they're also in a position where they don't want to like hop to the fact that like maybe we fucked up. We mean, we fucked this. Maybe we might have fucked this whole thing up. Because they got fired. Yeah, yeah. And they're like, hold on, bro. You got rid of Thrang.

You're doing even fucking worse now. And then what you're about to fire this guy too? Then they're like, we might have to hold on just to kind of save our asses for the job, but at the expense of the club potentially going down, I don't know. I'm still like I felt it could happen that they go down, but I think like I felt at the start of it just feels like I know there's no such thing is too big to go down, but it just feels, I think, I think this draw against Liverpool is going to help them a little bit because it could

have been, it could have gotten real grim there. But hey, I don't know. They got to win, they got to win one game, but this is a good start. Hey, look, you start with one point and then, hey, Maybe you get three. Maybe. Yeah, because they're, who are they up against this time now? It is. Leeds, huh? Notting.

Oh, it's the forest. It's the forest match at home. That's massive. That's huge. That is huge. That's my Super Bowl right now. Actually, I've got all my attention is on this one. I cannot wait actually to see this one.

And then they got Sunderland away after that. Brighton away. Wolves away. Sunn's going to fall off. Sunderland's having a bad run. Yeah. Sondland are fine, though. Them and Palace are fine.

I feel like. Yeah. It's going to be... Leeds is not quite safe, but I hope they are. Because I kind of... I don't know why I can't like them. Yeah.

I like DCL. But yeah, we'll find out. And then, yeah, that's kind of the big games, right? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, but I mean, did you... The Chelsea PSG match was... I loved...

I watched so much of the fan reaction videos because these motherfuckers, they thought they were, They were like, okay, bro, we got this man. We're like, we're hanging in there. It's two, two. Fuck, bro. It's, fuck.

Fuck. It's getting work. Fuck. Dude, the. The. The Faviskele eagle. Oh, my God. Fucking dirty.

Dirty. Oh, mate. That's, yeah. That was serious. Serious, go. His ice in the veins celebration, though, could use work. You know what I mean? None of the European guys do ice in the veins, right?

None of them know how to do ice in the veins. How are you supposed to do ice in the veins? bones. You're supposed to do it like, you're supposed to shoot it. Like, you're supposed to shoot it like it's dope. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

And then you nod off. Like, David Cross now. If he does it too well, then it's going to show people that he needs a drug taker. So he has to do it intentionally. No, no, it's not even like that. It's just no swag. It's like, he was so stiff.

I got to pull it up because I was just like, see, this is why we need it. It looked like a Georgian bloke trying to do a dance movie. basically. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was. No, 100%. Like, he's,

he watched too many TikTok videos and thought he could dance. He looked like he had a diaper full of shit. Okay. He's got it. Here he goes.

It's a wonder strike. Oh, his, see how he left? Yeah, that ain't right, man. He couldn't even land it. Because he got stuck. He got stuck between that

and like a Spider-Man type thing. Yeah. Here you go. You're getting up in the air. Okay, okay. Now what are you thinking? Okay, we're doing ice in the veins. Look at his fingers, bro.

Three, so many three double, triple fingers was that, what's going on? Because he thinks he just hit a three in the NBA. Look at that. That knee, right there. Ooh. Stanky leg. You hit the snakey leg on that. Yeah, he felt that.

Look at the fingers. Way too spread out. Yeah, yeah. You're going to get, you're going to get marks. You're going to get points off for this one. It's like, it's if Spider-Man was Trey Young. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's trying to give us both.

because he hit it again at the end. After his second goal, he was like, bro, I got to let him know. He doubled down on it. Yeah, I think this time he did a knee slide into it. Here he goes. The Tocchioli. Yeah. He probably realized he's like, I should just go to my knees, bro.

I don't want my knee to give out like that. They should look goofy as fuck. They say we're looking at him, huh? I know. I was like, come home, bro. As soon as he did, he hit the, this is my field. Yeah, we'll see. For how long, brother?

Yeah. And then just, I guess, quickly, though, the Real Madrid city match was also amazing. Fucking Federico Valverde. My God, dude. That third goal was so fucking nice. When the other players celebrate the goal, like, they caught the lot.

Oh, my God. You like that. It's a serious finish. When you turn your teammates into fans, that's no higher honor can be paid. I watched this whole game at the Citadel. The Citadel. That's just a random thought.

Yeah, yeah, I was just at the mall. Yeah? Would you pick up? What did I pick up? I picked up a North Face Beanie and some A6 keychains. I got some key chains. And I bought. Why do you need them to be A6 keychains?

You need like special keychains for running? Yeah. They just had a bin out front. I liked what it was looking like. And then I got one of those scary bears from that chocolate store. What's the Rocky Mountain chocolate or whatever? What's a scary bear? They have this mascot.

for Rocky Mountain Chocolate Shop where it's like, it's like the original teddy bear, like and the bear don't look happy to be there. You sound like a tourist. Yeah. A keychain, a scary bear, a stuffy, and a beanie.

You'd literally just like, nothing was essential on that list of items, was it? I paid a triple more than for parking than I should have. Yeah. A very tourist stuff. I love it. Wait, is this the, okay, It got overalls on?

I get footwear from there. Part of the world, you know what I mean? That's where you get cheap trainers, cheap snooies. Yeah, yeah. That's where we go. That's where the deals are.

One last thing, though, which was really funny, in the Newcastle Barcelona match, obviously we also drew the Pire, Levecouzen, but the only other English team to not lose was Newcastle. They drew against Barcelona. There was this funny moment, though,

where there was a Barcelona fan who basically was trying to go to the Newcastle Barcelona Champions League match, and the match is being played at, St. James's Park. This guy, I guess, puts in his GPS, St. James's Park, but that also happens to be the place where Exeter City Place. They also play at St. James's Park. And he pulled up to Exeter City's St. James's Park. They're like, oh, bro, you ain't seen you in Barcelona today. We're playing Lincoln. If you want to check that out. And they said, one of our volunteers came to the office

to let us know that this guy had turned up expecting to see FC Barcelona. His English wasn't great. but from what we could gather, he'd come from London. My guess is he'd put St. James Park in his phone and then just followed the directions from there. He was pretty gutted and a bit embarrassed. So we started him out a ticket and he got to watch a game at the real St. James Park. It's so cute.

I love that. I love that shit. There is also a St. James's Park in London. So that would have been easier for him. I wonder if he's like, it can't be local. You know? And he's just like, yeah, it's probably that one. It's probably that one.

Oh, God. Yeah, yeah, y'all, you got to make sure. I think if you had, Exeter's quite a good night out. Like, it's kind of a college town, so he might have had a fun. Okay. So you know that some locals would have handcuffed into them and taken out the lost Spaniard. They would have called it. Yeah.

A lost Spaniard. Oh, you look who he found. Yeah. Or they call him, his name's John, but they call him Diego for the whole night. Yeah, yeah. Like, there's a weird. Where Diego go? Where's Diego gone?

Yeah, mate. Tell him it's his turn to buy around. Yeah, just Blacked out. Hey, I hope you had a great match, man. Next time, everybody makes sure you know where the fuck you're going. A girl goes up to him and goes, All right, lover, do you want?

I know you like to tap ass. Come on. Tap ass. Come on. Come on, love. Oh, my God. On that note, we are going to wrap it up. So, anything, Chris, Jamel, anything to plug.

Well, I just want to say your one. Welcome to both of you. I did leave where I was watching the game in Toronto at halftime. Okay. Thank you. Shout out to Pizza Restica. Yeah, yeah. And the whole staff in there, you guys are great.

All right. All right. Pizza Rustica. Pizza Rustica. No, uh, people should join the industry. You've been putting videos up, right? Yeah, yeah. Fitty.

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You know what I mean? All right. So until next time, we'll be us, UBU, and hopefully we'll be three points closer. Although we're not going to have Premier League for, like, damn near a month. A month, yeah. Yeah, so. Caribout Cup final, right? Yeah, Carabout Cup, some Champions League.

Listen, who's got a line to, England, I don't need to see anybody playing in these friendlies. Chris, get your boy on the phone. Yep, yep. Nobody gets on the plane for this one, okay? Nope, nope, nope, everybody's a feign injury. All right, y'all. We'll see you next time.

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