The Daily Zeitgeist - Tales From The Crypto-Bros, JFKFC 11.14.24

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

In episode 1776, Jack and Miles are joined by author, comedy writer, and comedian, Josh Gondelman, to discuss… The InfoWars Sidewalk Sale Hath Begun, Trump Creates New Government Department So Elon ...Musk Can Hawk T-Shirts And Crypto, John Krasinski is SEXIEST MAN ALIVE, KFC Continues To Be Really Weird About Their “Original Recipe” and more! The InfoWars Sidewalk Sale Hath Begun Alex Jones Freaks Out as He Prepares to Lose His Entire Empire Trump Creates New Government Department So Elon Musk Can Hawk T-Shirts And Crypto Trump taps Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy to head ‘Dept. of Government Efficiency’ How Top X Rivals Fared Since Elon Musk Sparked Twitter Exodus The Guardian No Longer Posting on X: It’s a ‘Toxic Media Platform’ That Elon Musk Has Used to ‘Shape Political Discourse’ What GAO (Government Accountability Office) Does KFC Continues To Be Really Weird About Their “Original Recipe” KFC sues Church’s over ‘Original Recipe’ KFC Drops Suit Over Original Recipe Did KFC Patent Their Recipe? KFC recipe challenge: Tribune kitchen puts the 11 herbs and spices to the test Did the Chicago Tribune Really Find KFC's Secret Fried Chicken Recipe? I Tried KFC’s Leaked Secret Recipe and Here’s How It Went Did Colonel Sanders Steal the KFC Original Recipe From a Black Woman Named 'Miss Childress'? KFC Secret Recipe Moved for Security Upgrade KFC U.S. COMMISSIONS ROBOCOP AS ITS NEWEST COLONEL-AND GUARDIAN OF ITS COVETED SECRET RECIPE OF 11 HERBS & SPICES Checkout Josh Gondelman's Comedy Special People Pleaser! LISTEN: Trip To Japan by The ShacksSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:16 America's shared consciousness. It's almost been a full year of seasons. Next season, one more app, couple more apps and three season 365 and wow we've all been waiting for it yeah the Mayans said it would never happen here we are they actually said it ends at 365 so I don't know what do we do season 364 would be like really like momentous and kind of depressing kind of a bummer
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Starting point is 00:04:22 Like if you want, you know, if you don't want to be overloaded. Yeah. Anyways, it is Thursday, November 14th, 2024. Yep. Yep. More significant stuff today. It's National Seatbelt Day. It's National Spicy Guacamole Day. So if you like spicy guacamole, today's your day. And National Pickles. I love pickles. National pickles. I like half-sour. If I'm honest, for real.
Starting point is 00:04:47 It's my favorite. Good day. Solid day. I don't really fuck with spicy guacamole. That's not what I'm looking for from guacamole. It's kind of the opposite of what I'm looking for. That's okay. I respect people.
Starting point is 00:04:56 I think that the times that I've had it that it's good, it's usually the crushed red pepper in there. So it kind of comes at a different rate from the creamy coolness of the guac. Okay. Okay. I'm just I'm just telling the truth here. You know I'm opening my heart. I got that tame palette. You know what I mean? Got the tame palette of a white. Anyways my name is Jack O'Brien aka Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. You want it, let's do it, ride it. That fast wave rock bottom is waiting. Your freedoms were trashing. That one courtesy of less than zero on the Discord.
Starting point is 00:05:41 A little genuine pony. Yeah. AKA for that ass. Yeah, right. I don't know what it's in reference to. I'm not familiar. Not sure what they're talking about. Anyways, I am just thinking about spicy guacamole. I'm thrilled to be joined as always
Starting point is 00:05:56 by my cohost, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, AKA. Woke up this morning. I don't believe what I saw. 100 billion bottles washed up on the show. Seems that I'm not P alone. 100 billion castaways looking for a home. I really have to piss my guy.
Starting point is 00:06:22 I really have to piss my guy. I really have to piss my guy. I hope that no one sees me. I hope that no one sees me pissing in a bottle, yeah. All right, shout out. That's obviously reference to the rock and David Lynch and everybody, all the filmmakers, actors who like to piss in bottles on set. David Lynch just pisses on trees, okay?
Starting point is 00:06:44 Oh, okay, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry. Okay, sorry. While making Lost Highway in the 90s. Mason jars technically for Robert Downey Jr. Bottles for The Rock. The Rock and Amazon employees prefer to piss in bottles. That, aka courtesy of Ludwig Von Drake, 007 on the disco. Thank you for that one.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Oh shit. Love to do a bit of singing. Maybe they'll be the next 007. There's great news we talked about yesterday's trend. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny author, comedy writer, producer, comedian with a special positive reinforcement coming early next year, an existing special that you should all go check out right now. He's written for Last Week Tonight and Desus and Mero, which my autocorrect changed to Jesus and Mero. Because it knows where my heart is and the salvation that I need
Starting point is 00:07:36 personally, would have been a very different show, Desus and Mero. Two legendary shows, among many other things. Co-created the Twitter account at Seinfeld today, which I'm very impressed by that one. I actually just learned that this morning. One of the kindest funny people, one of the funniest kind people doing it anywhere. He's here to rip off your head and take all your cocaine. It's Josh Gondelman.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Hey, Josh. Hello. So nice to join you. Thank you for having me on the final, I believe, National Spicy Guacamole Day before someone in the Trump administration outlaws it. I think Stephen Miller. No, that shit's over.
Starting point is 00:08:15 Yeah, it's done. Spicy. I can already see RFK Jr. being like, that's what's killing our kids is spicy food, too. The spice is like the vaccine of the flavor world. Oh man. They're going to go so hard against hot sauce and spicy things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:33 It doesn't work with the general palette. They're just going to be starting out injecting raw milk into their femoral arteries. Oh, Josh, it's good to have you back in the feed. Uh, the past few times you've been on miles and Jack on Matt boost. You were on recording with us as the election results were rolling in. And so I blame you and like my brain has connected those, those two things and now it's your fault. That is kind of, I am kind of the one incorrect conclusion that pundits
Starting point is 00:09:06 haven't drawn on TV, right? Like people are coming up with all the reasons. It was fucking Gondelman, dude. Yeah. He went on boosties, dude. He just like went too hard for the Celtics. It's nothing to do with the party or the platform. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:24 It's cause a nation decided the episode or the platform. It's because the nation decided... The episode wasn't even out yet when the results were in. But knowing what we do now, that's clearly what it was. That's right. It was a terrible... The nation just decided they weren't worth saving. They were like, I don't know, man. I don't feel like voting today. Did you hear that fucking Celtics? I heard it. Fuck, really?
Starting point is 00:09:43 That's right. Not only is the Joe Mazzulli's reliance on the three-point shot turning people away from the NBA, it's turning people away from the polls. It's just boring. I don't know. I don't care who cares who wins. Anyways, it's great to have you back. Great to be here. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things.
Starting point is 00:10:04 We're talking about Infowars being sold for parts, talking about the new Doge government. They're doing memes while creating government departments. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about the sexiest man alive, of course. We're all on the edge of our seat for this one. It was announced it's CIA apologist John Krasinski. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about KFC continuing to be really weird
Starting point is 00:10:33 about their original recipe. Anyways, all that, plenty more. But first, Josh Gondelman, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Yesterday night, I Googled, Goo Goo Dolls slide lyrics. So many Goos in that sentence.
Starting point is 00:10:51 Googled, Googled, Googled. Googling, Googling, Googling. Me googly eyes. Yeah. I was, so this is something about me. I went to see Ben Folds live in concert last night. Oh my gosh. Holy shit. Yeah. I posted about it online about how wild it was that he had,
Starting point is 00:11:09 that Ben Folds 5 had a big radio hit in the late 90s of Brick, a gentle piano ballad about being salty about having to take your girlfriend too early in the morning to get an abortion. He is like the day after Christmas. It's really a bummer for me though. Yeah. Think about it from that perspective. I mean, she's a brick and I'm drowning slowly.
Starting point is 00:11:27 I got a PlayStation, babe. I was gonna hang out and play PlayStation the day after Christmas. And just how many people- I really like that song though. It is, I mean. It's really emotional. He knows how to write a melody.
Starting point is 00:11:40 Yeah, he does. That was a great album too. But Ben, how has Ben,'ve look I whatever never a man I love that album. I just remember being like a band kid and being yeah Smoking off this guy's playing like it's such theater kid music, but I how's how is he live? Like what's it live? No, he's good. It's I I did kind of miss the band because he plays solo So it's just him piano and piano. And he played, so he played one set, he was great. And then he's doing this thing called the paper airplane request tour. So
Starting point is 00:12:10 takes a 10 minute break, and then people write down requests and throw them on a stage as paper airplanes. And then he just walks around the stage picking them up. And he's like, huh. And then he tells a little story about each song and plays it. The request set was a lot of the slower ballads, but his voice is really good. You can hear that little Southern accent in it when he's singing. It's very distinctive. I just like him as a songwriter. It was a blast. Didn't play. Did you air?
Starting point is 00:12:39 I don't think he did air. That's a great one. He did. This should be the show. Just Miles Askin. Just Miles Askin. What about it? Did he do? He did Kate, which is a great one. He did. Just miles asking. What about did he do? He did Kate, which is my favorite song. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:12:50 That's great. Do, do, do, do, do, do. Yeah. Yeah, I know that one. And that like when the upbeat ones where the piano is a little more percussive. Yeah. I feel like that kind of makes up for it.
Starting point is 00:12:59 You miss the band a little less. Oh yeah, yeah. On those bows, you're like, God, the double track vocals or whatever from the album. I don't know. I could talk about Ben Folds for a, because it was a big theater kid thing for me. I did high school theater and it was like when the older, when you started making friends with the older kids who had cars and drive around, it was all Ben Folds
Starting point is 00:13:15 five and Weezer baby. Yeah. What is this? It's like it's Ben Folds five, dude. This called Stevens last night in town. Both Brick and Slide have like little lines in there that like feel like they're straight up out of an anti-choice pamphlet. It's not me you're dying for and don't you love the life you killed are two lines. That's aggressive.
Starting point is 00:13:35 That's a lot. That's about centering the man. At the very least, not being very supportive of your partner. Because first of all, to say that is like a little cold and uncaring, right? When someone makes that choice with their own body and reproductive freedom. Second, the second point, that's a song now? Everybody knows? Yeah. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:13:58 It's like a combination of us not having enough awareness or sensitivity and plus just being like, I don't know, this melody's sick and a dude's sick. I guess it's fine. Right, not only am I mad at you for a choice you made to your own body, but I'm kind of making it slap and I've turned America against you through song and the radio waves. And also by the way,
Starting point is 00:14:17 I wasn't gonna take care of that motherfucker if you. Was not. Was not in a very strong way. But yeah, it does remind me of just like teenage boy emotionality where it's like, I don't know, it's just like fucked up, you know? Right, right, right. That's like the entire thesis.
Starting point is 00:14:36 Could you for a second live in- Just like so fucked up, dog. Can you put yourself in the other person's shoes right now? No, no, no, no, no, absolutely not. Absolutely not. I'm putting myself, I'll tell you what, I'm no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:14:48 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not me you're dying for? Likely aligned to the baby? I think so. Wow. Because she's alive. Yeah, yeah. I think she's very safe. Unless she's emotionally dying, you know. That's true.
Starting point is 00:15:11 It's it's hard to say, Josh. And that's what we're going to get to in Act Two. Just a point by point, lyrical analysis of Rick. But before we do, Josh, we like to ask our guests, what's something you think is underrated? But before we do, Josh, we like to ask our guests, what's something you think's underrated? Oh, I think this is a Peacock show that first season came out, I missed it entirely. Second season came out, deep pandemic. It's called Killing It with Craig Robinson. I feel like people should go back and find this one. It's Craig Robinson, Claudia O'Darty, Tim Heidecker.
Starting point is 00:15:39 It's really, really funny. It's like a very, in Roe Battles and it's increasingly dark satire about like hustle culture and the American dream. It's super funny, super inventive. It is like one of my favorite shows of the last five or six years. And I'm here to shout it out. I think it's been, it's a pretty common underrated with
Starting point is 00:16:01 people who would know these things. Like this is, we've've had some very solid recommendations for this show. And I still haven't watched it. It's very good. I'm into it. And I think it's like, there's 20 episodes total. So it's one of those things that's like, if you're looking for a new fun thing to watch, but you're not ready to commit to whatever,
Starting point is 00:16:21 all 10 seasons of, or 11 seasons of Cheers or whatever, which I also did during 2020 with my wife, then this is like, it's, it goes fast. It's fun. It's, it's like, it feels like it's a, about something in a way that is not beating you over the head, but is like an innovative and funny presentation. There's like an it follows style episode. That's just about various debt collectors, like coming out, like debt being consolidated.
Starting point is 00:16:48 It's really funny and sharp and good. Yeah. I mean, we are on our grindset mindset on this podcast. I don't know how much our listeners are going to feel about how they're going to enjoy this because yeah, we it's a, it's just failure to frame a mind. And this sounds like some L shit dog debt collectors are a frame of mind, dude. What, uh, was something you think's overrated? Uh, the Democrats woke quote unquote woke agenda. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Okay. Brother dude, tell them can't stop talking about how fucking quote unquote woke the Democratic party was. Kamala Harris is basically doing interviews where she's like, my pronouns are border and wall. And it's like, come on, man, this is ridiculous. I don't, you know, I'm not the one to do an autopsy on a political campaign because I'm stupid. But this is stupider than me. The fact that people are going, well, Democrats talk too much about trans people. And it's like, well, what do you mean by that? Well, the Republicans put out a lot of ads about how much
Starting point is 00:17:53 I hate trans people. And it's like, you got dummy, own up to it. That's what happens. So who was talking about it a bunch? Right. Who was talking? And I think the Democrats personally, I would have loved if they talked about things they would do for people more, of course. And I just think it's like such a but people are going on TV, just saying shit like going on first the fumes of vibes from 2020. And they're and they're going, oh, it's too woke. And it's like, no, you're just saying the thing that Trump's ads are saying. It is.
Starting point is 00:18:26 Right. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you've basically internalized the messaging from the Trump campaign and then this is why they won. Yes. Because of whatever they're saying. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:34 No, no, no. It's so stupid. I just like, can't hear. I can't see another headline. I don't read the columns because I don't, I'm dumb enough without actively making myself dumber, but I can't read one more headline from a column that's like, if the Democrats use a single pronoun, if the next person who uses a plural pronoun for any reason will doom that political party for generations to
Starting point is 00:18:59 come. Shut up loser. Yeah. And that's like, we keep saying this, this is the fight that's happening right now. Cause you have a lot of these establishment figures who don't want to own the fact that their attack to the right was the thing that fucked everything up and now they're just going for just, we just need to acknowledge man. Like obviously like the trans thing is like a thing we need to just like be clear on, you know, like, yeah, you should have been clear about that, about how like trans people are
Starting point is 00:19:22 people and deserve dignity and rights and not like you can't let the Republicans who are like, they shouldn't exist, dictate the terms of conversation. It's humiliating. Yeah. Yes. And also when you change your answer on something, it looks bad for you. Yeah. When you're like, psych, we actually don't care about that. We care about border security and, uh, we're running away from that. Uh, yeah, it's, it's so wild that. So the people who ran the campaign that lost ran the campaign as though
Starting point is 00:19:55 this was their biggest problem and then lost despite like having a wildly defensive, like hyper focused on this. Angle campaign and then them and they're like, you know, having a wildly defensive, like hyper-focused on this angle campaign. And then them and their like, you know, advisor class is coming out and being like, they lost because of this thing that they were clearly acutely aware of and ran the entire campaign around. Brutal. It's also, I think, you know, I have my own disagreements with the
Starting point is 00:20:24 Harris Wells campaign on policy. I wish they had taken a stronger stance about a weapons embargo to Israel. That was a big one for me. But I do think Kamala Harris spoke significantly better than Ben Folds did about abortion. I think she really spoke effectively and clearly and without hedging. I've got Tim Walls on issues like trans students spoke really plainly and clearly and compassionately, like didn't play the rhetorical games and was just like, yeah, they're, they're kids and we should support them and you're being gross to want to like look up their assholes every time they take a shit.
Starting point is 00:21:00 And it is, I just think that they had these strengths and then pretty immediately like tamp down at least the second, you know, I think, I think they spoke well about reproductive health throughout. But yeah, just like ran away, like you said, ran away from some of the stronger points. And it was frustrating, not just from an optics and polling standpoint, but as somebody who was like, yeah, this is like you're saying things that are correct and compassionate. Yeah. And this is a direction we should be moving in. Yeah, that's our problem. Oh, sorry. What was the last thing you said?
Starting point is 00:21:31 That was a direct, huh? But yeah, all of those like post mortems are definitely like, I think you should leave hot dog suit sketch. You know what I mean? Or they're like, they're like, why am I hearing from you right now? They're like, we got to figure out who did this. I'm hearing from you right now. They're like, we got to figure out who did this. And you're like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:21:45 Right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, anyways, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. That's the sound of 2024. The sound of my soul escaping. We'll be right back. My name is Brandon Kyle Goodman. We'll be right back. to destroy shame around sex. And the only way to do that is to talk about sex.
Starting point is 00:22:25 So that's what we'll do on my brand new podcast, Tell Me Something Messy. OK, let's play this messy round of smash or pass. OK. Here it is, smash or pass. Spit play. I don't know. I don't know how I feel about bodily fluids being on me,
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Starting point is 00:22:53 Baby, like I always say, if you know how to work that body, that sexualness, and that heart, you're unstoppable. Embrace your power. That's really what we gonna do on this show. Join me on Tell Me Something Messy with brand new episodes every Thursday on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. And we're back. Let's have a little schadenfreude, shall we? A little amuse-bouche of schadenfreude.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And look at Alex Jones, the one right-wing shithead who is- Well, actually lost. ... in the moment, losing, getting what he deserves. Yeah. Let's do that. As we record this, Alex Jones' entire media disinformation empire is being auctioned off. Yeah. We're talking literally everything from broadcast equipment to the parent company that owns Infowars,
Starting point is 00:23:55 down to his little desk that he screams from. It's all for fucking sale. And again, this is all being auctioned off in order to pay restitution for calling the Sandy Hook victims and their families like crisis actors and saying that the shooting was a hoax so knowing that it's just wild because on Monday on his live stream he was acting like he's like he's like you know the actual the case has already been determined before there we want to try it's like dude I get maybe your your listeners might believe that shit. But everyone
Starting point is 00:24:26 else you're like, it's so clear what's going on. So here he is talking about how this you know, could be maybe his his last live stream and how everything's being absolutely sold off. Day after noon. info wars, the equipment, Infowars.com, Infowarsstore.com, and a whole bunch of other stuff is at a federal bankruptcy auction from the fake judgments and the rigged trials where I was found guilty beforehand and they had literal show trials out of the Soviet Union. I'm pretty sure like he didn't even reply because he refused to actually like have any kind of like legal argument
Starting point is 00:25:05 against like the, like, he like went into a summary judgment, which is why he's like, it was a show trial. It's like, dude, you were, you had nothing. You had nothing to defend yourself with. Yeah. I mean, he did not cooperate in the sense of like sitting quietly in court and like, or presenting an argument. He would leave in like, extreme, right?
Starting point is 00:25:19 Yeah. Yeah. And it was also wild that like, even though it was determined before and he had no chance, he still revealed that like this is just a character that he plays in that trial. Yeah. Which seems like I wouldn't have revealed that man. If I knew I was already, if I already knew that it was rigged and I wasn't going to lose,
Starting point is 00:25:39 I wouldn't have said like, yeah, that's a character. I actually don't believe that and it's fucking stupid. I get it. Like, please. But we're just I'm it's like Hulk Hogan. Alex Jones is just a fake character I play, which is what he said in trial and still lost. And then he got like, sad and stopped. Just kidding. Real me. Still got real guy. Actually, my first amendment rights are being violated. That's why I should be able to say whatever I want, even if it is smearing victims of a mass shooting. Anyway, go on, Alex. ...Nazi Germany. Rob and I walked in here during the break after getting a glass of water,
Starting point is 00:26:14 saw the auctioneers inside the building going around surveying from the last time they were here to make sure all the stuff's here. Everything tagged, everything marked, this day after. Oh, so anyway, so he goes on. It's all up for sale. He did go on to be like, maybe the good guys. I think the good guys, some good guys might come through and like bail me out. And I think that like reports or it could be some kind of like weird consortium of like Roger Stone and other like wealthy right wing figures or even fucking Elon would come in.
Starting point is 00:26:42 There was also a lot of talk from like groups like Media Matters. They're like, dude, we'd fucking buy lot of talk from groups like Media Matters that are like, dude, we'd fucking buy Infowars and just- They- Media Matters, I just hope that they don't get in a bidding war. We have to try to drive the price way up. I guess I want the restitution to be bid. We got $65.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Yeah, exactly. What's Musk offering? Right. Yeah. He's also wearing an outfit. This is is normal look but it's kind of a burgundy button-down worn in a fashion that I would describe as like a strange father at his child's first communion Yeah, but he's like in the back of the church because like they're like no he was here. He was in the back Is on dad was there? Yeah, just had to keep leaving to go vape
Starting point is 00:27:21 Yeah, dad was there. Yeah. He just had to keep leaving to go vape. Good. Check on my, check on my fan duel bets. Get your hands off me father. Get your hands off me father. I'm smoking tiger's blood right now. My vape, smoke and breathing air is my first amendment.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Right? Yes. Right. Oh God. Your son's communion. Paying attention to this at this juncture and hoping that it doesn't somehow break in his favor and like a billionaire doesn't come through and like buy everything and, you know, transport him to some island where he can't be touched by international law feels a little
Starting point is 00:27:57 bit like it's using the same part of my brain that wants to pay attention to the Mike Tyson, Jake Paul fight and like pin my hopes on something that I know is going to have a bad outcome. You know, I'm just, but I'm just like, yeah, no, I think we got one of them. I think we got one this time guys. Well, same, same with, same with Rudy Giuliani being forced to give his possessions over to the poll workers. Yeah. It feels so good.
Starting point is 00:28:25 A judge being like that car you're in right now. If you don't hand it over by Monday, you're in jail loser. And your Yankees world series ring. Dick shit. So fun. It's so beautiful for him to lose things that are both high in financial and high in sentimental value. It's a, you can't talk about where you are on 9-11 anymore.
Starting point is 00:28:48 No, no, I need that. Only thing. You can never say you were mayor of New York. Yeah. Yeah. I have nothing. But you do hate to see it just for the, the, the Yankees, you know, we're getting tarnished like that.
Starting point is 00:28:59 That's, that's painful. Just a good franchise like that. I hope they sell it to someone who melts it down because they need whatever material is in the ring for some kind of science project. All right. We're microdosing news about Trump's new government. I think we're going to do one story a day because more than that is too awful.
Starting point is 00:29:29 So most people are pretty, pretty well prepared in terms of understanding what's on the horizon. So I think we can fairly predictably awful up to this point. Yeah. One that one of the details that seems like it's breaching a new level of like One of the details that seems like it's breaching a new level of governmental stupidity is this new... So they announced a new government department, aka marketing scheme. It feels like a combination. And I mean, we've already seen this with a lot of things with Trump's campaign,
Starting point is 00:30:06 already selling the commemorative coins that usually come out like a hundred years after the, uh, event that they're commemorating. Just because it's like, you know, good money and he's in the commercial being like this commemorative plate set will, will make you rich. Uh, anyways, you don't need to commemorate the present. Remember the present. Yes. Commemorating last week's amazing rally. So users seem to be fleeing.
Starting point is 00:30:31 First of all, a bit of good news. People are fleeing X like it's the Titanic. But advertisers are coming back. Oh really? Yeah. Because they're now like, we need to get on Elon's good side, uh, is another headline I've been seeing because of now he's become so, I guess, important, uh, in terms of his proximity to Trump.
Starting point is 00:30:51 He and Trump have been hanging out a lot. Yeah. Yeah. To the point that people like Trump aides are like, it's getting weird. Like he hasn't left in days. He won't leave the president alone. Yeah. He's wearing the same clothes too.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I didn't know I'd be sleeping over. I'll just buy some stuff. Uh, the Guardian just announced they'll no longer be posting on Twitter. At the same time, Elon Musk and Vivek Brahmaswamy were just announced as the heads of Trump's brand new Department of Government Efficiency, which as everybody, including Elizabeth Warren, has pointed out, nothing says government efficiency like creating a new department and hiring two people to run it. But it's putting aside the obvious fuckery of hiring Musk, who's made billions from federal contracts to oversee government spending.
Starting point is 00:31:45 of hiring Musk, who's made billions from federal contracts to oversee government spending. They didn't need to create this department. It's a department that already exists, the US government accountability office, but this one has a fun acronym, which is DOG Doge. Seems to be the only thing they've done is they've rebranded an existing governmental office as DOGEDOGE. Because it's his favorite shit coin, is Elon's. And this is something he tweeted like months ago too. Like he'd be like, it would be interesting to do a department of... So I think one thing, one people who, if you try to even think that this might not be as bad as it is, some people are like, this feels like some weird fucking like just project
Starting point is 00:32:31 that you can send these two on so they don't actually get involved with actual like White House business. But I don't see that happening considering how close Elon Musk is to Trump. But I think the other part of this that's really like, like, I think it's just really, we have to keep our eyes on what's happening with crypto, because you can there's a there's a longer game at play here. Because, first of all, the price of Dogecoin nearly tripled in value since election day. And, you know, like, this is part of like, again, a way
Starting point is 00:33:02 for Elon Musk, Trump and their allies to radically change the economy. Like they keep floating stuff about paying off government debt with crypto or using like Bitcoin as just a way to pay off, you know, like the T bills or something or just government debt. And this is again, a way that we're always seeing like, as even Elon Musk said, it's like people are going to have to experience pain, aka they want to crash the economy. That's really what is that's really what he specifically said that in the lead up to the election. Yeah, yeah, we're going to have we're going to be experiencing some pain for a few years, aka crash the economy. So then billionaires can come in and swoop up everything that's left and really consolidate even more wealth at the top
Starting point is 00:33:46 Also, what an incredible thing to say we're gonna experience some pain for a few years, which means Trump's presidential Term is going to be a disaster. That's what he that was the pitch This is gonna be bad the entire time it's happening and people are like sick, right? Right, like if you had had run the early 20th century, they're going to do stock market crash, great depression, third, right? Like all in like, yeah, you'll get age, gilded age. That's the gig economy. They're all doing all of those things at once.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Right. Yeah. And again, it's like, it's Uber, but for fascism, right. And fucked up economic crashes are the turbo fuel of fascism. Yes And it's clear like mass deportations that is going to have significant effects on the economy The the tariffs are gonna have significant effects on the economy There's already talked about like what happens with the debt ceiling is America gonna default and also further throw things into chaos There's a lot of things that they have
Starting point is 00:34:46 their hands on the levers to create this situation. That's a real part of it that I'm just really freaked out by and seeing how whatever this plan is, because all roads seem like they're leading to just one of the most fucked up economic crashes. It's also, it's also to me, I think the idea of like the economy, I'm like using fucking scare quotes, like a complete conspiracy theories, but like the idea of the economy writ large is like, when it's good, it doesn't necessarily hit most people, right? The economy being good doesn't like benefit people directly because it's all, the capital's all funneled upwards. But the economy was killing it during the pandemic.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Yes, and when the economy is bad, people do feel it, right? Oh yeah. Like the ceiling on it is so low. It's like an airport sandwich where you're like, the best it gets, you're just like, this is adequate for me. And then the worst it gets, you're like, this is ruined my life.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Yeah. Like I'm sick. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. No, when it's bad, your, you know, your company announces that they're taking a look at, uh, taking some preventative measures because the, there are economic
Starting point is 00:36:04 headwinds in the offing and then you lose your job. And when it's good, you don't see shit. You just see headlines that the economy is good and get angry enough to fucking elect Donald Trump. And then you're like, yeah, Jeff Bezos has added a fifth billion dollar yacht. And you're like, what? Okay. It's boom time on this one island where Tom Brady lives next door to Jeff Bezos Right. Yeah, it's it's truly Brutal to be like, oh it must be nice to be the economy I guess
Starting point is 00:36:38 Right. It's been been there. So but I mean, I guess this is also the other thing too Like you look at how the price of Bitcoin is, I don't just skyrocketed, you know, since the election, and made a lot of people like, like smaller holders of Bitcoin very wealthy, because then now you they've also created a group of people that will evangelize about cryptocurrencies, and be like, No, like, this is actually like, it's amazing, like what I've been able to do with it. There's just so many different dimensions of how, I'm not sure what version is gonna work, but you can already just see sort of like this pattern sort of emerging. The crypto lobbying has been so weird, right? Yeah, the biggest industry. Outreach to black male voters,
Starting point is 00:37:19 she really centered crypto in that. And I don't know if this is just like received wisdom or if this is true, but like the crypto lobby investing a bunch of money in the Ohio Senate race that elected Bernie Moreno and pushed out Brown. And it's like, it feels like six years ago, someone should have been like, no, this is imaginary. You can't do government.
Starting point is 00:37:43 You're off on your own island with your play money. Right. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But again, like because because of like the emergence of like these very wealthy people who run these coin exchanges, yeah, to your point, they're just being like, this is this is our play now. Like we can we can we can put because they've because now like fully they're realizing, okay, dollars I can use to push around and threaten any politician with a primary loss or a full on election loss by just going all in on their opponents. And that's how you see it. They did it over the last few years of getting people in line over their stances on crypto. And more and more people are just being like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, be good for this. That usually, that is always pretty sick for most people, is when things get deregulated. Deregulation. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:31 Yeah. That always works out, I think, pretty well. Enron, I know so many people who are just paid off their home loans with Enron money. Put my kids through college. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Alright, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about some things we can feel good about,
Starting point is 00:38:51 like the sexiest man alive. We'll be right back. Music My name is Brandon Kyle Goodman. I'm a black, gay, non-binary author, TV writer, actor, and I'm messy. But not in the way you think. Messy as in I'm human and flawed. I'm on a mission to destroy shame around sex.
Starting point is 00:39:17 And the only way to do that is to talk about sex. So that's what we'll do on my brand new podcast, Tell Me Something Messy. Okay, let's play this messy round of smash or pass. OK, here it is. Smash or pass. Spit play. I don't know. I don't know how I feel about bodily fluids being on me,
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Starting point is 00:39:55 Embrace your power. That's really what we're going to do on this show. Join me on Tell Me Something Messy with brand new episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And so we actually, the episode that we recorded the day of the election before we knew the results, one of the stories that we focused on was the upcoming big news that we still didn't have access to and it makes it so hard to record those episodes.
Starting point is 00:40:36 We still didn't know who people's sexiest man alive was. You're sour stuff over there. You're like the Woodward and Bernstein of people magazine. Oh yeah. I got fucked by my sources. I have to be honest, a lot of them, especially the ones who are, uh, you know, sheep dipped CIA agents were telling me it was going to be Jim from the office. And I just, we would have to believe it.
Starting point is 00:41:05 Not that guy. Have you seen Glenn? How will Powell, whatever the guy's name is? Exactly. He's sexy. He's alive. Yeah. How will I do? What's wrong with me? I do like the people who have the energy to be outraged about this.
Starting point is 00:41:20 Just like, oh, another another one where I had all my hopes riding on. It's just like just another rake to the face, just going through the media landscape, catching rakes to the face. But yeah, some people, it was announced on Tuesday that Jim Halpert from the office is the sexiest man alive. His photo on the cover looks almost apologetic. He's like, sorry, am I sexy? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Aw. Aw. Aw. I didn't mean to be all sexy, my bad. It's kind of a sexy or whatever. A Jim Halpert look. Yeah, I know, totally is a breaking the fourth wall of sexy Jim look.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Yeah, yeah. We only bring it breaking the fourth wall of sexy gym look. Yeah, yeah. We only bring it up because people really seem to not like it. Fucking shit. He's also a character that I have, like, for a while now, been keeping one eye strongly on ever since he just started being openly pro-CIA in his interviews. His positive news show came out at a time when everybody was really pissed off. He was like, what if, I don't know, it's fun. What if I just sold it immediately?
Starting point is 00:42:39 This was all just kind of like, many sold it for $100 million and nothing ever came out. Yeah, people continued to die of a rampant pandemic. Yeah. And yeah, he has weird takes. And takes so weird in fact that he has become people's sexiest man alive. He's mainstream enough. He's like the Jay Leno of sexy guys.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Yeah, he's kind of like, but he is like a perfect encapsulation of like in America, where on the surface things seem like okay, but like on the surface, he seems calm and steady. Yeah, but deep down. Yeah, knees weak, mom's spaghetti. Yeah, but deep down. Yeah knees weak arm mom spaghetti I think everyone knows what people Looks like that that's the look of the picture. He's like, oh, I don't know. I just have this sweater. I guess I just puked on it or whatever.
Starting point is 00:43:49 It's mom's spaghetti, but hey, I'm as American as eating mom's spaghetti. You know? But like, again, but underneath it's like this guy that's like constantly winking at the right wing while also kind of pretend like doing it in a way where it's like, but I'm like, not that kind of guy also. Like I'm Jim. It's just this very, yeah, off putting thing, but I, it's, it in a way that's like, but I'm like not that kind of guy also, like I'm Jim. It's just this very, yeah, off putting thing. But it is wild for how much people fucking hate
Starting point is 00:44:11 this announcement because I don't know, I think it's probably partially like a lightning rod for everyone's election angst. Yes. But it's truly being like, yep, this is the perfect guy to fucking get angry about. It's also like, there's so many years that People magazine's sexiest is like, not someone as Victor pointed out,
Starting point is 00:44:31 that it's not someone who's like super in the zeitgeist. It's not someone who you think of necessarily as sexy like Blake Shelton one a few years ago and people like fully like left their bodies with rage. It's also not, it's the sexiest famous guy alive. That's the thing. The sexiest guy alive is some broke dude who lives on his friend's couch and has slept his way through an entire friend group and no one's mad at him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:58 That's the sexiest guy alive. Oh, nice. You slept with him too? Cool. Yeah. There's an interesting PR thing that happens with this increasingly. Uh, these past two years, like this year, I think everyone was like, there's an obvious choice. Like there's a guy who is famous for being the sexiest guy and he was in like the biggest blockbusters of the summer.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Glenn Powell was like, seemed like, yeah, in a world where this had some editorial integrity. I think when it started, it was like, Brad Pitt again. You're saying, stop the steal. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They were like, I guess it's Brad Pitt again. Guy who's most famous for people jacking off to how hot they are. And that then like, I think starting, I don't know exactly when it started, but I think because it's like viewed as like, I don't know that, do I want it?
Starting point is 00:45:55 Do I want that? It has to be somebody whose team thinks it's a good branding move for them to be considered sexy. And so last year with Patrick Dempsey, it was like, what if we gave them a reminder that this guy was sexy? Because he's got a movie coming out. Yeah. And also jumped on the Golden Bachelor wave. And this year with fucking, God, I can't, John Krasinski, not Jim.
Starting point is 00:46:24 What the fuck is he? Whatever this fucking guy's name, John Jim. The thinking man's Mark Wahlberg. Yeah. It's like, we don't really think of him that way, but what if you did? Yeah. I think there's also backlash, for understandable reasons,
Starting point is 00:46:42 against kind of puffy comedy guys that are like, but what if I was fucking hot? Yeah. Like him and Chris Pratt, like if it were Chris Pratt, I think there would be riots in the streets right now. It would be like any hockey team won any hockey game. Yeah. But I think this is just,
Starting point is 00:47:01 all this tells us is that Chris Pratt turned down the opportunity to be People's Sexiest Man. I think that's the only thing this says. He retreated from being sexy for a while where he was like, no, I'm Mario and Garfield now. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Don't look at me as sexy.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Look at me as Garfield. Sexiest Man Alive, Garfield. It's also just such a weird, like the idea of the sexiest man alive just like evokes like some kind of freak show thing where it's like, step right up ladies and behold, the sexiest man alive. And it's just some white guy again. And you're like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:36 We have buckets of cold water in case things get too sensuous. And seven fainting couches. Be careful ladies. Like it's just, all right. And again, the lack of just like, it's, well, who are the like, only the people of color to win this have been what?
Starting point is 00:47:52 How many years has it been? Dwayne, okay, The Rock, Idris Elba, John. Oh, you know what they did? They probably did this moral licensing thing where they went three years of black men. They're like, it was Idris Elba, John Legend, Michael B. Jordan, and now we're electing Trump. And now we will never have to do that again.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Right. Right. It's also like, did, did someone lap Michael B. Jordan? That's ridiculous. You'd be like in the past year we've tallied the votes. Patrick Dempsey got sexier than Michael B. Jordan.
Starting point is 00:48:22 It's like, no he didn't. Correct. No. He should just keep the crown. Yeah. Yeah. It should be like a King of the Hill thing. Is anyone ready to dethrone a sexiest? Okay. That's right. Yeah, kind of a runway walk-off. Zwinders style.
Starting point is 00:48:40 If there was an independent media ecosystem, it would be like really low-hanging for someone to actually do like a rigorous version of this story and just be like actual sexiest man alive. Glenn Powell, I feel like even you do a Jeremy Allen White. Yeah. Those are the two white guys who are now. Dev Patel is real hot right now. Dev Patel. People are so horny for these guys.
Starting point is 00:49:05 What, you want Kamala to lose, Miles? Sorry, sorry, sorry. Christ, man. If this is Trump's America, Jeff Patel can't be sexiest man. Sorry. Yeah, my bad, my bad. Fucking want to hand him the election? Jesse Waters.
Starting point is 00:49:19 That's, I mean, in Nightmare Future Universe, like, we could be headed that way. I think he's going to be running Department of Education, I think, in nightmare future universe, like we could be headed that way. I think he's going to be running Department of Education, I think probably before they dismantle it. Yeah. Every host from formerly of The Five is going to have their own department in the Trump White House. As we did yesterday's trending, Trump did name just a Fox News host to be. Secretary of Defense?
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah. Secretary of Defense. Yeah. I do think we should do- Who was that guy? Fox News hosts to be Department of Defense. Yeah. Secretary of Defense. Yeah. I do think, I do think we should do. What was that guy? Yeah. It's piss hands. Is that guy?
Starting point is 00:49:50 It's piss hands. Wow. It's piss hands Pete. I do think that we should have a sexiest dead guy every year. Yeah. We don't have to show a current picture, but I feel like if a new sexy guy dies, maybe they're the sexiest dead guy or they're like, that's fun. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Paul Newman again. Yeah. Just coming back around to it. You're like, Oh, I mean, like, have you seen the photos? And we're talking peak. Peak. Right, right, right. Cause when you're dead, that's, that's how you should be remembered.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Yeah. Peak Marlon Brando, not like I would Dr. Moreau Marlon Brando. Have you seen those pictures of the Billy Zane as Marlon Brando in that biopic that's coming out later this year? No, it's bro. This motherfucker looks like Marlon Brando. I'm yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Anyway, hate to just commandeer the segment like that, but it just hit me because I saw a recent pic of it and I was like, holy shit, dude, this is, this is prestige casting in terms of finding someone that looks like Marlon Brando. The zaniacs are going to eat like they haven't since Titanic. The zaniacs, baby. But yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:55 Everybody can go check out some cool pictures of John Krasinski leaning against various things. Photoshoot has him leaning against a doorway in the meatpacking district, leaning against an old-timey cab. Right. Multiple old-timey cabs. He might have an inner ear situation because he's really off balance in all these pictures. But-
Starting point is 00:51:18 Disability representation is so important. He's stealing Keith Morrison from Dateline's whole fucking thing, which is leaning on shit. You know what I mean? So there's nothing original about this. Y'all just fucking move on, move on from him. That was a big Instagram thing where it was like, the lean is so hot. And it was just like people, like guys leaning against doorways. People just, they're drunk online.
Starting point is 00:51:41 People are just so into engagement. There'll be like, like food just hits different when you're hungry. You don't need to say that. Just think it. Right. Food just hits different when you're hungry. The John Krasinski thing is so funny too because even with this action hero glow up, he's not someone that I hear people being horny for. At his peak, as Jim Helpert, when people were like, he's dreamy,
Starting point is 00:52:08 it would be like people's marriage materialist man of man alive. Right, right, right, right. Yeah. You know, you have to issue a statement like you just found out about this. Like they called you on Tuesday morning and were like, hey, you won the, because he's like, I, guys, that for me, this is like so weird. So like, I don't sit around being like, Ooh, I hope I'm people's sexiest man alive today. You know, like it's just, it was like phrased in a way
Starting point is 00:52:39 that was like, you should have written this out ahead of time. It looks like you did, but like you did it. You should have had somebody else write this out ahead of time. It looks like you did, but like you did it, you should have had somebody else write this out ahead of time, it seems like, because it's not, it's not selling. I'm not, I'm not buying that John Krasinski, this was not part of an aggressive campaign to be like, what if we tried to like, I know the last like movies we've tried, people are like, oh, no, no, probably not. But what if he was sexy? Have we tried that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:10 It's also to be like, faux humble. It's like when you're a person who's, again, still best known for the office, do have a little fun with it. You know what I mean? Yeah. Since I was a boy, I always knew I would achieve this honor. Right. It's beautiful to be recognized for the sensuous man I mean? Yeah. Since I was a boy, I always knew I would achieve this honor.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Right. And it's beautiful to be recognized for the sensuous man I've always been. And I look forward to making love to each American individually now, as is my Moroccan name. See? Good to have Josh Gondelman write for you. Would love to. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:53:42 It's been a dream to write for Krasinski. To write his press releases. Would love to. Oh my God. It's been a dream to write for Krasinski. To write his press releases. I am that unemployed. I'm going to put some poor lady named Kelsey out of work. All right. And finally, KFC is suing somebody again around the phrase original recipe. Uh, just the concept of the original recipe seems to make them go crazy.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Yeah. At KFC. Cause churches damed to say that they, our original recipe is back. Oh, you fucked up. Cause now KFC's lawyers are coming for your ass. Yeah, original recipe only refers to KFC the original recipe. We have trademarked that and you owe us so much chicken. The KFC has declared they have the concept of the original recipe as if the original recipe the first recipe ever was fried chicken and not potatoes over an open flame.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Right. Yeah. So they actually say that they're not doing this for themselves. The lawsuit is actually on behalf of all fried chicken lovers out there. I can't figure out how you even get to that logic. I can't figure out how you even get to that logic. If churches stole your original recipe, how would that harm fried chicken lovers out there? Again, because they're trying to say that we are the protected.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Clouding the information ecosystem? They are the standard bearer for fried chicken. They're flooding the zone with original recipes. It's a Steve Bannon-esque tactic to diminish trust in mainstream chicken media. How could they have an original recipe? Yeah, it's like CEO's claiming to be employers. Yeah, they're like, we give so many people jobs. You guys should love us.
Starting point is 00:55:38 They're like, if we go out of business, we're doing this on behalf of you guys. I also love the phrase that they're doing it for the fried chicken lovers, which sounds like the spoken word intro to the grossest R&B song of all time. Like, huh? Yeah. Just to give you a little background on how KFC does when it comes to the original recipe, in 2000, a couple bought Colonel Sanders' house and discovered a handwritten note that seemingly contained the recipe.
Starting point is 00:56:12 They contacted KFC, the most good faith thing I could imagine a human being doing in that scenario. They contacted KFC to be like, hey, we found your wallet. Do you want it back with like extra money in it? You better shut the fuck up when it's suing you, oblivion. Yeah, KFC sued them. Even when it's like, we found a wallet? Right.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Whose is it? I don't know, it's a wallet. You can have it. No, we're gonna fucking sue you. That's our wallet for sure. So they sued this couple again, but just not to give you the wrong idea. They did say, we took it very seriously. We filed the lawsuit to protect the quality of our product. By extension, you, the fried chicken lovers.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Yes, absolutely. They may have a claim to the term original recipe, but they actually don't have, just legally speaking. That is the argument they're making and in today's Supreme Court environment, but they, uh, actually don't have a patent on the actual recipe because that would require them to disclose the ingredients. And they really like, they just won't do that. Or so they claim they won't do that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:23 So anyways, it's like a big show. It's like the funniest, the funniest reason to not want to go through discovery is like, they're going to find out how much cumin we use. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. Fuck. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:57:36 I mean, when the sad thing is like, it's, it's out there already. Yeah, it's all bullshit. You can literally buy KFC seasoning right now if you want because Colonel Sanders himself Got the company Marion K to recreate his spice blend and then they still sell it under the name 99x 99-x which not great branding let they're less good at branding But it feels so but it feels more like Elon Musk child name, but yeah. It feels like a very 1999 naming convention. We're like, it's 99X dude.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Whoa, is that Mountain Dew? No, that's chicken seasoning. I'll buy that. I'll buy that. Goes well with surge. But 99X doesn't list its ingredients. However, Colonel Sanders nephew leaked the recipe to the Chicago Tribune just a few years ago. And he died of polonium poisoning.
Starting point is 00:58:35 He, he, he, he, they're making Boeing look like real soft. That's right. We'll take one of our chicken. Yeah. It would be so embarrassing to get assassinated by KFC. I have a knock at my door. One second, guys. The documentary JFKFC is going to be incredible.
Starting point is 00:58:59 Oliver Stone. Yeah. But I just like the thing that I love is that like they the one thing they don't really cop to is the fact that they use MSG. Yeah. So they released the recipe minus the MSG and somebody tried the recipe and was like, this doesn't work. Then they added MSG and they were like, oh, it's KFC that this is KFC that I'm holding in my hand. And they reached out and KFC was like, yeah, OK, we use MSG. Yeah, we use MSG. Can't prove anything, Kappa.
Starting point is 00:59:24 MSG is like fine, right? I'm holding my hand and they reached out and KFC was like, yeah, okay, we use them. That's so can't prove anything. Kappa. Yeah. MSG is like fine, right? Yeah. That's the word on it. Which is so funny because they spent all this energy to like keep up this myth and like act like the secret isn't just looking using MSG.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Like that's really what it is. Like that's what I mean. Like you think about, I just think about all this like Chinese restaurant syndrome. That shit that was happening in the middle of the 20th century to be like, these Asians are cheating with MSG kind of shit. That's villainous to use that that's all bad. Only for them to hold on to it. Like it's their fucking Holy Grail to be like, it's MSG though actually makes it a little bit. It hits a little bit harder. Steroids. G though, actually makes it a little bit. It's a little bit steroids.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, I mean, I do know people have like actual, like, you know, I think like it's a glutamate like allergy or whatever, but for the most part, like really it's fine. It's naturally occurring too, but like try it on shit, you know, little, cause most stuff, if you look at a lot of the seasonings that a lot of people use in the, in the U S the stuff, you're like, damn, that shit's good. It's like, just look at the ingredient list.
Starting point is 01:00:26 It's MSG in there. It's not because it's a secret thing. That's what's making stuff hit harder. Yeah. The Korean grocer next to my house, we have been shopping that early. God damn, so much of these snacks are so good. It's because MSG does not have as bad a name in Korea as it does in the US. No, in Japan, it's called the essence of flavor. That's what that's what it's called. Ajinomoto, like the fucking basis
Starting point is 01:00:54 of flavor. And that's like, it's like, that's where like, because some what food scientists was like, fucking, how do we get this like umami kind of thing out of shit? And that research led them to this. And then for decades, we were just racist against food tasting good. Right. Exactly. Right. Not fair. It's this whole, uh, the food industry being like not fair, essentially.
Starting point is 01:01:16 But yeah, I mean, they've the secrecy, like the whole branding around the secrecy is like they regularly staged dumb PR stunts like they had an armored car with a police escort transport the recipe to a vault and it was contained in a briefcase handcuffed to someone's wrist and it said KFC top secret on the outside one time they had the recipe delivered to a Swedish nuclear bunker by RoboCop so what yeah is that even under RoboCop. So what? Yeah. Is that even under RoboCop's jurisdiction? Yeah, yeah. In this new America, one of the sequels, I think so. And the one where you can fly.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Yeah. Oh, sure. Yeah. I will go to Sweden. That's what a lot of people don't read. Nuke the drug from one of the RoboCop sequels was just MSG. Was MSG. Yeah. But yeah, it's basically just like a lot of branding I feel like is just giving adults the thing they lost when they stopped believing in Santa Claus, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:12 There has to be some magic. Yeah. So anyways, yeah, the original recipe is closely guarded like the nuclear football and KFC will kill you if you find out about it. That's why I'm here on. And like the nuclear football, Donald Trump is desperate to regain access to KFC's original recipe. Oh, man. I mean, that might actually be true.
Starting point is 01:02:34 Yeah. That's what motivated his run for president. He's just like, I need to get this recipe. And he's going to open up a bunch of fried chicken places on his own. If only. Josh Gondelman, what a pleasure having you as always on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I am at Josh Gondelman across social media, G-O-N-D-E-L-man. I have a newsletter called That's Marvelous that I write every Monday.
Starting point is 01:03:01 It's free. It's full of pep talks and jokes and has on my tour dates, joshgondelman.com if you're just looking for the backstory and video, you know, I have a standup special you can find on Amazon. And if you're not into Amazon where it's free, you can rent it somewhere and that's great too. And I wanted to put in a little shout out
Starting point is 01:03:19 to tonight the 14th, if you're in New York City, there's this really great benefit that's happening at Gotham Comedy Club for Comedy Gives Back. It's like comedians helping out comedians. I think there's a lot of people talk about comics as if they're selfish and monstrous, but it's to provide addiction services and mental health and grants to people in comedy who are going through hard times financially and health-wise. I was going to be on the show, I had to leave town suddenly for work.
Starting point is 01:03:50 So I'm sorry to miss it myself, but it's a great lineup and I want to recommend it. Go check it out. Is there a work of media, Josh, that you've been enjoying? Oh, gosh. I'm really trying to savor the last season of what we do in the shadows. You know what? A little under the radar, we're talking under radar earlier. I liked Bad Monkey on Apple+, if anybody watched that.
Starting point is 01:04:12 It's like Vince Vaughn as a disgraced detective. Yeah. I heard it's like old Vaughn. Got the old magic back, baby. I thought I was over his whole thing. Then I watched this and was like, oh, he's fun like a haggard, washed up guy that's still smug and talks fast. Yeah. I think didn't Trump appoint him to lead the National Endowment for the Arts?
Starting point is 01:04:36 We're in a true Vana sons. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work media you've been enjoying? Yeah. Find me everywhere where they got ad symbols, including blue sky. I'm on the blue skis also because, yeah, you got to have your eyes on all the exits. So, yeah, check me out there. It's also miles of gray.
Starting point is 01:04:58 Shout out to all the gang that's been following. Also hit me up if you want an invite to the discord. I can get you that. But you got to reach out and I will respond. But yeah, find me in those places also find Jack and I talking basketball I'm housing jack I'm at boosties and also escaping reality by watching reality television talking about 90 day fiance on for 20 day fiance with Sophia Alexandra so check me out
Starting point is 01:05:20 there. I tweet I like is from at Brian Gar that tweeted, fuck your feelings. But also, please come to Thanksgiving. We miss you and our vote had nothing to do with you, honey. Feels very much the vibe right now. You're I don't think I have any media I've been enjoying. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find me on Blue Sky at Jack OB1, the number one. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Myles, what song do we think people might enjoy? Again, looking for music that transports us to places that doesn't feel like now or here. This is a track by a group called The Shack, or The Shacks, sorry. And it's called Trip to Japan. And it's just a really great track. Like they talk about, they describe their music as quote, soundtrack to a mysterious alternate reality. And that's what you get. Like it's the people who are like are part of this have played with like bands like El Michael's Affair who I've suggested before.
Starting point is 01:06:42 It's fully out there and it's really nice. The vocalist is really super dope. So check this out. It feels like a trip to Japan musically. So a trip to Japan by the Shaxx. Check it out. Is it spelled like the S-H-A-Q-S? No, C-K-S-E-S-E-S.
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