The Daily Zeitgeist - Tall Zoom Energy, Candy corn rules everything around me? 10.8.21

Episode Date: October 8, 2021

In episode 1005, Jack and Miles are joined by host of the Money Rehab podcast Nicole Lapin to discuss Texas Federal Judge ends the abortion ban...for now, The Underrated, Underreported, Undercounted Deadliness of Heatwaves, Tall Zoom Energy, Google has entered the HALLOWEEN CANDY GRAPHIC FIGHT and more!FOOTNOTES: Texas Federal Judge ends the abortion ban...for now The Underrated, Underreported, Undercounted Deadliness of Heatwaves Tall Zoom Energy Google has entered the HALLOWEEN CANDY GRAPHIC FIGHT  LISTEN: Fredwave - Shovel Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 205, episode 5 of Your Daily Zeitgeist the production of i heart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's friday october 2021 so you know what that means it is of course national fluffernutter day the day we've all been looking forward to. We will be off, by the way, on Monday for International Indigenous Peoples Day. So don't blow us up.

Say, where's the episode? What happened? We'll be back. We'll be back. We'll be back. Don't worry. Don't worry. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Soaking Time. One last call for bed jumpers so we can stop Jesus's tears. Soaking Time.

God don't want us to bone. And hey, bro, my eyes are up here. I know who I want to help me bone. I know who I want to help me bone. That is courtesy of Chris Harvey. At real Chris Harvey, not the fake one. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! I saw Alanis Morissette last night, so in honor of that, it's Miles Gray, a.k.a.

You're getting slammed in a Twitter debate because you listen to Facebook and ate some horse paste. You hate 10,000 books because it points out that you're white. It's like meeting Ben Shapiro and realizing he doesn't even have a wife. The cell phone seems ironic. Don't you think? But I'm smoking too much chronic to really let that sink. I'm Miles Gray. Yay. Okay.

Let me just tell you, Alanis Morissette, 25-year anniversary to her Jagged Little Pill. She's still, I could not believe how good her voice. It gave me, my spine almost shot out my body. It was, I don't even, I don't know how good her voice was. It gave me, my spine almost shot out my body. It was, I don't even, I don't know how else to describe it. And also Shirley Manson from Garbage also killed it too. Wow, Garbage and Alanis Mori. Yeah, the year was 1995 last night, you know. And was it like the Kanye 808 show where she just did the album straight through?

No, she kind of mixed it up. Yeah, a little bit from here and there. Honestly, I couldn't believe how she's maintained her voice for this long. I felt like it was

still 1995. I rediscovered my fandom. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a suspiciously first-rate guest to be on our second-rate podcast that opens with us singing about floating. She is the New York Times bestselling author of the book Rich Bitch, a TV news anchor, businesswoman, philanthropist, and most impressively of all, of course, a podcaster. She's been an anchor on CNN, CNBC, and Bloomberg, was the money-saving correspondent for The Wendy Williams Show, and hosts the very informative podcast Money Rehab with Nicole Lappin on the iHeartRadio podcast network.

Please welcome the brilliant, the talented Nicole Lappin! How you doing? Good, how are you? You know, I am better now that I'm hanging with you guys in my pod closet, which I spend many, many hours in during the day. How many hours are you clocking in that pod closet? you talking in that pod closet? Well, I'm doing my audio book now by myself. So I'm talking to myself basically all day and all night long. And I never want to hear the sound of my own voice. So during Indigenous Peoples Day, I'm just not talking to any people. Yeah. Just going on a vow of silence for that day.

That's right. Talking to yourself in your own words that you wrote a while ago. That sounds meta. Yeah, very meta. And that would that would make me a little bit crazy. Would you think you would start second guessing? Like, does that process ever be like, oh, man, I think I can reword that. But then you're like, but this is already locked. So do I deviate or you find it very easy to just trust what you've written? It's a good question. I For the first book I wrote, I'm on my fourth book, which is Bananas. I need to take book birth control immediately. If you know where to find that, please let me know. For Rich Bitch, I thought nobody was going to listen

to it ever. So I just basically had a little party with myself and made jokes that were not funny. Maybe they were just funny to myself, which most of my jokes are. And then audiobooks became a thing. And they became more and more popular. So I kind of have to take it seriously. But no, I can't second guess anything. Because as you guys know, there's this crazy supply chain issue with all products, furniture and chips and everything and books included. So I got a spot in the printer and I cannot get out of the spot or my book is not going to come out until 2025. Oh my God. But if I want it out in January, mama's got to read what's on the page. Yeah. And mama's got to read what she wrote.

That's the only thing I've ever done. Right. That's amazing. Book birth control, by the way, I think is just listening to podcasts, just clearing your brain of any good ideas. But what was the podcast festival or something? Movement? Yeah. Which sounds like a whole other thing. Yeah. A podcast movement. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. All right, Nicole, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about a Texas federal judge has ended the abortion ban for now.

We're going to talk about the underrated, underreported, undercounted deadliness of heat waves. We might even get to Andrew Cuomo's book. We will definitely get to tall Zoom energy. That's a thing. All of that, plenty more. But first, Nicole, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? So the paradise dog so my puppy penny and her name is very on brand for a money person of course she is the mascot of money rehab you can follow her at doggie coin i know you guys are already doing that who else would you be following? But she eats all the things and she ate birds of paradise.

And as a protective dog mommy, I wanted to see if she was allowed to eat those. And apparently she's not. So that's when I took Penny to the doggy emergency room. Oh, no. Oh, it's like actually is poisonous or it's just starting like they're better not off eating that or the the article was like get to a vet now it was like somewhere in between but penny like noshed on all the birds of paradise so she really like inhaled them and yeah they induced vomiting and five hundred dollars later and that's what's left.

Yeah. Okay. Search history. Oh, Penny. Yeah. I regularly have to search things about what I can give my dog. The last thing I searched was cashews because look at Penny.

Wow. Oh man. Adorable. And she looks like she's happy to meet us as we are to meet her it seems like actually looks like you're waking up a dog like every time you wake up a dog like what but penny looks like yeah recently i i searched cashews because i was eating them and then do you know like the other like earlier this week there was just that wild thunderstorm that hit the city it's like lightning everywhere so my dog was losing it,

but my dog will not bark or get startled by fireworks or lightning. Like if I have treats, it's very interesting. Like he will just focus immediately be like, yes, I will sit down and have my ears up at attention. Please give me this treat. And I only had cashews at the time. And I was like,

is this okay? Turns out it's okay, but don't put your dog on a cashew diet either. Right. It's okay. Jason will say, yeah, exactly. It's just like, you know, it's fine, but don't put your dog on a cashew diet either. Right. It's okay, Jason. Yeah, exactly. It's just like, you know, it's fine, but just don't think that you can just start giving your dog cashews all the time. Guys, I have a

question. We're all in LA and with dogs. Why did we not do a podcast doggy date? I know. I know. It's a missed opportunity. It's a damn pandemic. But yeah, I definitely want to meet penny in person she's looking straight in the camera get her a show just amazing eye contact she just made like very uh intense eye contact with me and then yawned like did a stage yawn at me so do you do

you have birds of paradise that or do you no longer have birds of paradise like in flower park at your abode so it wasn't at my abode it was at a hotel in san diego that was really billed as a dog friendly hotel come on and i know and so then I was really pissed. Yeah. Because Penny was just out in the terrace doing her thing, like at her dog-friendly hotel. And they can't have things that dogs can't eat at a dog-friendly hotel. So I got really pissed at them. Dog-friendly except for these delicious looking flowers that are actually poison. And chocolate bars. And we have a baker's chocolate fondue fountain

that is at knee level. Not for the dogs though. Very lethal baker's chocolate. It's lethal, but I just love it. Birds of Paradise though, one of the best named flowers in my opinion. I think they really nailed that name. It does look like a bird.

Penny doesn't think it's paradise, though. Shout out to that botanist. Shout out to whoever named that flower. What is something you think is overrated? I think leasing a car is overrated. I know we live in LA and everybody does that. I think what's underrated is buying a used car four years old or older because that's the greatest depreciation period. And then running that jalopy into the ground.

You don't have to flex with your ride if it takes you into financial prison. Right. But now we're getting that money rehab knowledge. Right? I'm like, good. I just paid off my car. Good. And I'm, you know, and now, but my plan is run that shit into the ground.

That's right. Which I've done with every other car prior to that. But, yeah, I know many people who get caught in, like, the vanity of leasing, like, having a new car constantly. And they're also just, like like constantly complaining about how expensive their car leases. I'm like, this isn't just so you can have a Mercedes that shoots a light on the ground that has a logo on it. Okay. Now this is your area of expertise, but something you haven't addressed is I just have been renting a Dodge Charger for the last three years from Avis. Do you recommend that that is that smart financially

i mean it's my number one expense it's our number one household expense it does not have the light on the bottom of one just mentioned that it's not approved if it had a light be a different story right is it projecting a dodge logo from the side view mirrors onto the ground so people know even more what kind of car you drive but okay so leasing overrated i i like that it's a scam it truly is a scam i'm not even gonna miss words about it yeah why do you think the car companies came up with it to make money to make your money right to be like here's a new car because i remember when my i was about to pay my car off i've never been contacted more from the dealership like hey man we got the 2022s about to roll in you want to we can just i know you're one payment away from straight up owning this vehicle but what if

we got you to come in and test drive this other car that's slightly better than the one you have and get you in another lease or into it just to lease itself but yeah right which you're paying new car price for a used car by the time you turn it in and then you turn it in you don't even own the car right right right and four years or older is when it depreciates but it's not that's not reflective of the value especially like new cars are really they do a good job with these cars these days, as I understand it. Right. Like they're last. Yeah, they last a pretty long time, don't they? Mm hmm. Yeah, I think as sources say, they they do last, but they are very, very expensive and they lose value the second you drive them off the lot. And so a four-year-old car doesn't look that different.

Like the interface is probably the same and the light is still probably there. I'm not talking about like getting a Pinto or something. You know, get something that was gently used. Yeah. Yeah. I'm all about that. You know, you do always want to trust a used car salesperson. That's the reason

they have that reputation of being trustworthy. Unless it was me when I used to sell used cars or on the lot when I worked on a Dodge lot. Everyone was like, you got to sell the used, man. That's what you're going to kill. You're going to make money, man. Sell them the used. I'm just so bad at it. I'm bad at

aggressive sales. I'm good at so bad at I'm bad at like aggressive sales. Like I'm good at like, you know, finessing my words and, you know, the rhetorical mastery of it all. But the part where it's time to get somebody to be like, throw your money away on this now. I would fall apart. Right. You can't lie. You're a good man. Too honest. Yeah.

You know, we'll see that that could all change once my cult starts up. What what's something you think is underrated? Underrated is buying a used car or, you know, a SEP or a simple or a bunch of retirement accounts that aren't super sexy. I love the people who did the marketing for a 401k. 401k is like the darling, but I think that's overrated. There are a ton of other retirement accounts that I think are underrated. And the more the merrier when it comes to retirement accounts. I think a lot of folks think the 401k is like the only girl at the dance. She's not. There are others. And does your company need to like participate in

the other like retirement accounts or you can just kind of pick and choose if you have a 401k? Well, so you can have a 401k and an IRA. I know you guys are stoked. An IRA. A Roth IRA, huh? Love that Roth IRA life. You just go to the bank and you can open up an IRA, a traditional or a Roth. And the only difference is taxes.

With a Roth, you pay taxes now. With a traditional, you pay taxes when you take it out. And so that's like a whole other category of retirement accounts than the 401k. So you can have a 401k and you can have a Roth IRA and a traditional if you want. And then SEBs and SIMPLs are like other variations of IRAs in that family if you own your own business. Wow. How did you become so financially literate? Because I grew up in the most pretty financially illiterate home or like one where a lot of those things were not communicated to me. So it was a lot of trial and error once I got out of college. So I would always meet people with their financial shit

together. I'm like, how did you get there? Oh, I lied. You know, I lied. True story. I grew up in an immigrant family. So I'm first generation American, super broken home. My father died of an overdose when I was young. My mother sort of peaced out. And I just needed to work. So I needed to get a job. We talked about this before we went on the air. We're all in LA. I went to an arts high school. I wanted to be a dancer. And then I went to college to be a poetry major.

So I'm the least likely person to be a finance expert or whatever. I never thought I'd even be in business or talking about business. or whatever. I never thought I'd even be in business or talking about business. But then I started in journalism and I auditioned for this small station group in Chicago. I went to Northwestern and I wanted to get like a local news job. And they said, well, you don't get this job, but do you know anything about business? And I was 18 at the time. And I just said, yes, I just lied. I was like, I so and I just said yes I just lied I just like I so fucking literally love business all day every day read my resume come right twice on Sunday like I had a boyfriend in high school who said he wanted to be a hedge fund manager and I thought

the dude wanted to be in gardening yeah so if I could do this anyone could do this sure sure sure for real no and yeah and I mean I've I I mean, I've gathered that over the years when people were like, try this, read up about that. I'm like, oh, right. Okay. I think it's just at a certain point, there was just, I think my priorities are just completely off. So it took moments like that to realize like, yeah, that's right.

We live in a very complex financial system here as well, especially as it relates to taxes and things like that. So at a certain point, I think I just became very apathetic because have a Rosetta Stone for this language. No matter what high school you went to or growing up, no matter what kind of household you grew up in. We don't learn this stuff in school. We learn a bunch of BS, like how to dissect a frog or the Pythagorean theorem. Yeah. That BS.

Why? Why do we need to, like, if we want to know when, right? Like when a train gets to a station. Fucking I thought it was the right triangle. But, but you know what the pythagorean theorem is don't you yeah i'm sure a squared plus b squared equals c squared that's right or but you but then you start asking me about retirement i'm like uh

shit right if i were in charge of the world we would learn about seps and sipples instead of isosceles triangles. But I'm not yet. And, you know, I think that for me, out of necessity, I just went to the school of hard knocks. And, you know, if you go to China or you don't speak Chinese, you'd be confused. If you go to Wall Street, you don't speak the language of money, you'd be confused. But then, hello, Captain Obvious, once you speak it, you understand it. But first you have to just learn this silly little language, but it's like not complicated. And so. And I think that's probably intentional too, because I think most people, if you're not making globs of money, you don't learn a lot of the other

tricks of the trade or like wealth accumulation tactics that people have. And it seems like, yeah, you're just like, well, then that's for someone else. But then you realize, no, it's just, we can educate ourselves or maybe give ourselves a different outcome. Yeah, and then a lot of women in particular, you know, I wrote Rich Bitch and either thought it was gonna fail or crush it.

There was no gray area. People were gonna have feelings about the book. But because I think women in particular don't get their financial lives together because they think a guy is going to take care of it. And listening to you guys, case in point, guys are not going to take care of it. Guys don't know more. Nobody knows anything. I will kill the shit out of a spider, though. Thank you.

Or I will escort it outside because I like spiders. But I'm there. But, yeah, you start talking about college funds and stuff like that. Like my partner and I were like, should we be in a college fund? Man, I'm going to sell an NFT. And then we're good. You know, like that's not a strategy. I'm like, you're right.

Do you have a like a crash course that you recommend for people just to like kind of like what what did you read to first sort of learn the language i was just on the floor of the chicago merc which is like wolf of wall street style and so i learned it there and i realized like when i heard people say short i thought it was the opposite at all but it's not it's just the opposite of long in the wall street world and it's not complicated it's just the opposite of long in the Wall Street world. And it's not complicated. It's like, it just means something's going in the pooper. Right. It's going to fail.

And that's all. But nobody says it like that. They say, you know, most folks who explain it don't even understand what the heck they're saying. Right. And so I thought that there was an opportunity to be like, hello, everybody is just like smoking something here. Can somebody just explain this? Like say it plain how it is. And so that's what I tried to do. And so folks wanted that. Yeah. So Rich Bitch would be the crash course that people need to understand.

Rich Bitch would be a good place to start. Boss Bitch would be another good place to start. Miss Independent is the book I have coming out in January. And not to sort of like sell my own books, but I came up with the money school because I kept saying the same type of spiel, like, why isn't there a class? And so I kept saying it so much. I was like, I might as well do one because it doesn't include the Pythagorean theorem. Yeah. You're really hard on the Pythagorean theorem, by the way. I do have to stand up for the Pythagorean theorem. It's never steered me wrong, as far as I know, in the zero times that I've had to use it in my everyday life. You're right. You're right. Let's be fair, Miles. You know, we've been really hard on her. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back fantasy football fans the nfl season is here and now is the time to get ready to dominate your

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about this law, like from the start, that effectively it reverses, you know, the Constitution, like what is agreed on legally as a legal precedent in the country. Yeah, it's just it's as unconstitutional as it looked. And this judge, this because his opinion was so different than what the Fifth Circuit or even the Supreme Court did, which was basically be like, oh, I don't know how to, if we can enforce, this is very tricky, this bill that they've created. And then just sort of like let things go on. But, I mean, this judge was unequivocal. He said, quote, from the moment SB8 went into effect, women have been unlawfully prevented from exercising control over their lives in ways that are protected by the Constitution. That other courts may find a way to avoid this conclusion is theirs to decide.

This court will not sanction one more day of this offensive deprivation of such an important right. People are like, oh, OK, well, easy, go a little bit easy on SCOTUS there. were like, oh, OK, well, easy, go a little bit easy on SCOTUS there. But, you know, this law was deliberately designed to avoid any kind of judicial review, like so that no one could find someone to sue over this law, because what they did was just sort of say, we're going to basically make it so private citizens are going to be the ones that's the enforcement mechanism, not the government or the state itself. So because of that, good luck trying to, be the ones that's the enforcement mechanism not the government or the state itself so because of that good luck trying to you know that's the way the bill's set up it's not us it's it's just everyday citizens that are going to enforce this so if that was just sort of everyone just had their hands up and most people were like this is just so just so just flatly

cynical when you look at just how it's designed and And if there's no one to sue, then there's no judicial review. And Pittman wasn't buying this sort of blatant, again, legal cynicism and said, you know, the state of Texas very much does have a hand in enforcement as it relates to things like instructing judges on the penalties to assess under this specific law. So the judge wasn't buying it and saying, no, you know what? This is I'm not I can't I can't let this stand. So he just went on to dismantle many of the arguments about like, what is even a heartbeat at six weeks? What does it even mean for most people at six weeks that may not even know that they're pregnant or and also like issues as it relates to access

and things like that. So right now the law can't be enforced, but a lot of like abortion providers are also a little bit worried about, you know, there's, there is a provision in the bill that allows for retroactive lawsuits to be brought. So even during this time, if it were reinstated, they feel like that's in the wording. So they're still trying to figure things out and they've made it clear the state of Texas, like we're going to appeal to the fifth, the fifth circuit that already looked the other way the first time we brought this around. So it's a very much, you know, a back and forth at this point, but at least this is a, a small victory. Right. I mean, from the perspective of someone

in the finance world, it's really disturbing that the Texas abortion ban pits people in low socioeconomic groups against each other. So the wealthy elite, regardless of what goes on in SCOTUS or the laws of the state, are always going to be able to get reproductive health care. But it's the folks in low socioeconomic groups that can't travel to another state or miss work or hourly work to get an abortion. So this pits people who have unwanted pregnancies against people who need a couple bucks. And, you know, that's not really been reported extensively, but I find that the most appalling. Oh, just sort of like the incentive, like how they're incentivized, essentially. Yeah, it's 10 grand. That's just sort of like the incentive, like how they're incentivized, essentially. Yeah. Yeah. One of the people who brought one of the first lawsuits was like, yeah, I mean,

I'm pro-life ish, but or anti-choice ish. But really, I'm just doing this because I need the money. I'm a disgraced lawyer. Like things aren't going great. I got a big boat. I got a boat note coming up. Yeah, it's fucked. And it really is like, I think, a decision that has been made or at least a lesson that's been learned in politics. politics that like if everything's happening among people who are you know in the lower levels of the you know very real american caste system people like the mainstream media won't pay attention to it like that they won't cover it yeah do you guys know how pregnancy weeks work i think we've talked about it i mean mean, like very in like a very from reading

articles many times and knowing like what like in terms of gestation, like what at six weeks they're interpreting as a heart rate, which is an electrical impulse. And there's the fetus at that point is not even developed an actual heart. I mean, things like that. But I would not say I'm an expert by any stretch. No, I'm not an expert either. I did a couple episodes on this. I had a miscarriage earlier this year, and it was actually only then that I figured out how pregnancy weeks work. So they actually add two weeks on when they're talking about how many weeks you are pregnant. So you count it from your last menstrual cycle. But obviously, that's not when you got pregnant. And so six weeks in this case is technically four weeks from conception, which is really hard for any woman to know. Right. And, and that's all this judge said. It's like, this is just setting down

an impossible task for someone who is pregnant to even know. And for most people, like when they even know they're pregnant, it's well past six weeks past six weeks so you know a credit to this judge for like sadly being brave enough to defend like what people had agreed upon was a constitutional right and to not just give like a you know like and then the supreme court is like a like a couple paragraphs to just sort of explain that's complex and you know we're not going to really touch it so yeah and i think i hope that this can at least set a higher standard and we'll see if again this appeal what happens with that because the fifth circuit again was more than willing to accept these kinds of arguments the first time nicole you're saying that it's not counting back from the last, from your missed

menstrual cycle. It's counting back from your last menstrual cycle that you actually had. Yeah. I actually didn't know that until I was pregnant. Right. So, Opie explained this to me. And so, yeah. So, let's say, you know, your last menstrual cycle was, what, October 1st. And, you know, we know how babies are made. You know, it happens in the middle of your cycle, right? So let's say conception was around, you know, the 15th or something like that. Then, you know, six weeks out is actually November 15th. Right.

So even though that's four weeks since conception, it gives you, so they count it from the beginning. Yeah. They just add on two weeks. And so that really gives you two weeks from your missed menstrual period, which obviously is not always like, okay,

this is clockwork. It's not here. So I must be pregnant. Like that. There's all sorts of different reasons for you know delayed menstrual periods and so like that that really gives you two weeks best case scenario to know if you're going by you know the you're missing a menstrual cycle like that's two weeks to then needing to get a hotel and you know making all those plans

yeah it's not enough time and especially you know how are you going to get time off work there's all these other economic issues that are embedded into this right absolutely yeah and it's funny because like in texas they're also arguing it's like well we're not cutting like people can go to like oklahoma or like colorado or like other places and like and that works. But they're just like, no, no, you don't understand. If you are allowed to have a law that's unconstitutional like this, then every state can. So it's not that this state is just in a vacuum. So, again, like, you know, they're very disingenuous attempt at doing this was like rightly observed and a proper opinion was like written on

it but yeah at this point i think this is just something that we're going to keep seeing them trying to test what's going to work or what's not and you know if scotus will deliver a death blow eventually yeah i mean i would just say that nobody is pro-abortion you know nobody is in the episode that we did about this i talked about a pregnancy termination that I had when I was much younger. And I was on birth control and I was taking another pill that made it ineffective. And it was by far the worst day of my life. And so when you see protesters, I'm always like, who do you think you're protesting against? These are like your sisters, potentially, or your co-workers. I only then opened up to friends and I had no idea that so many of my friends and other women have gone through the very same thing.

So I would just underscore that this idea that this is somehow like a birth control or a fun, you know, excursion to Oklahoma. It's not. It's devastating. Yeah. Kind of off of your point, Nicole, I do I do want to talk about this L.A. Times report about heat waves, which is basically that they're saying that heat waves are six times deadlier than the official counts recognize. just using data of like how many people would normally die during a period and then how many people die when the temperature is like extremely elevated and also off of your point earlier is happening to the sorts of people that we don't see reported on, which is the poorest people, the unhoused, the elderly, the infirm, like people who, you know, the news is like, we don't really want to see stories about them. And it's, you know, way higher than anybody gives it credit for.

They point out in the article that after a massive heat wave in California, I think in 2020, there were so many deaths. And like in a normal natural disaster, you would see like nonstop reporting and like, where did we fall short? What happened? And there was none of that. It was like it didn't happen. And I think part of the problem is that these deaths aren't really easy to see or picture in your mind's eye. Even in the article, as they describe the deaths, they sort of happen off camera. Like an elderly man is working digging ditches

during a heat wave and goes home feeling sick and is found that night in cardiac arrest in his driveway and it's like you don't see them because they're just like not necessarily things that are happening in front of people that's more kind of deaths of neglect and i just like in general I always talk about how movies really give us our visual vocabulary for things. Our vision of space is mostly based on movies that we've seen take place in space or our vision of countries we haven't been to. And like every other natural disaster has been depicted in movies. Like I can picture people in floods and tsunamis, like freezing earthquake, twist or hurricane. But like there's there's nothing for really like a heat death other than like somebody in on like a desert island. And it's like a slow dissolve to a skeleton with a pirate hat on or whatever right but they're just pointing out that like this is the deadliest form of natural disaster already

in america and it's only going to get worse from here until we address climate change and we're just not you know that like california put together a list of, I think, 40 recommendations for like how they could address this problem. Of heat death? Of heat death. Yeah. And just like extreme heat and like being prepared for it. And years later, they're asked about it and they're like, yeah, well, we've made like progress on like six of those things, which and the articles like that's even a stretch. So it's just something to keep an eye on because

it is like sort of this silent, invisible killer that is happening more and more because of climate change. Right. Yeah. But that's the community that climate change is affecting the most. Yeah. And you guys have seen a lot of this news around the debt ceiling recently. And part of this, if we don't raise the debt ceiling, then FEMA is not going to have as much money to take care of people that are hit by natural disasters. And of course, we've seen from these climate change reports that that's only going to increase. So that really scares me.

Right. And on top of it, you have people in the Senate who are willing to just weaponize that to be like, yeah, like I'll trigger a global recession. Like watch. And then that way I can just point the finger at Joe Biden in the midterms because that's how cynical we are. Yeah. It's definitely, I think, just this ongoing problem. But yeah, to the idea of like people not having the imagination. I mean, I remember like my grandfather had a story about like in the war about how he got heat stroke or, you know, just at the time he was just digging in a just out in the direct sunlight and described all these things that happened to him. And even as a kid, I was like, just from being in the sun.

described all these things that happened to him and even as a kid i was like just from being in the sun and i think because we don't have the imagination for it it seems like this very obscure thing yet every time you look at a heat wave come you can just see the death rates go up whether it's here or like in europe a few years ago like it's it's just a very it's a very real thing but yeah we just i don't know if we can people can are able to connect it because it just seems like an obscure way to die. Yeah. Yeah. But somebody has to do something about it. You know, during the the news cycle of the climate change report, I saw this really interesting quote. I was talking to my partner about it. He does a lot of work in climate change. And he said that this man said to his wife,

you know, I'm scared to raise children in a time like this. And then the woman said, I disagree. It's the ultimate privilege. I always love this quote, to raise dragon slayers in a time when there are dragons to slay. Yeah, I love that. I've already talked to my five-year-old and three-year-old about like, hey, so this is going to be the main challenge of your lifetime is like we have to figure out how to deal with all sorts of shit. But I think that's why these younger kids have a much more acute form of like eco anxiety than any other generation. And, you know, like they're they I think they're it's really connecting the dots for them. Like this is for many people who are under 40. Things can begin will begin to look very different very quickly.

Yeah. Eco anxiety. That's the thing, too. Yeah. There's a study about it. Yeah. Just how it's affecting, you know, just this idea of how it seems like every day you're reading a report about how coral reefs are beginning to disappear or the biodiversity is shrinking and like the biomass is going like just all these things. And it just feels like a cascading, never ending omni crisis of the environment. And that is like that leads to a very specific form of anxiety around like how viable our Earth is going to be. I tried to focus it on more like, you guys get to build an entire new world. It's going to be actually... From daddy's bones.

There's going to be a lot of creativity. I'm going to be a dried out husk that blows away. With a pirate hat on. Yeah, with a pirate hat on. I do want people to... I wanted to be whimsical. ...whim recognize my bones. He was a nice man.

Yeah. Add an air of whimsy to my tragic heat death. Yeah. No, but there's a lot of money to be made, actually. I mean, think about the infrastructure that we built this country on, right? The railroads and all of that. We have to rebuild it, which is going to create a lot of money. So when Wall Street is like, oh, these tree-huggy people, no, no, dudes. There's a lot of money to be built in this. Right. But I guess they're like, but we're,

we have way too much momentum going from the old way we do it. Like that's kind of a stretch. Now we got to give up the fossil fuels and improve our grid that can barely handle any kind of new clean energy revolution. I mean, it's just so much to spend money on. But yeah, that's a huge task and would create a lot of jobs is we have to modernize the grid in this country to even have any meaningful conversation about how clean energy is going to be part of our climate change solution. Yeah. Tell him, tell him about the grid. Yeah. Penny didn't like that last point. The grid is fine.

Real quick. So I have a in-depth understanding of the debt ceiling. You mentioned that and like I'm kind of an expert on it. But would you mind just for the listeners giving like kind of an overview of your of your thoughts on on that whole debate? Because I actually don't know shit about it. But between you and me. because it i actually don't know shit about it but between you and me uh just between us girls i don't i don't even know what a debt ceiling is but uh it it does the way we've covered it is mostly like it seems kind of like a arbitrary thing that one party starts complaining about when the other party's in power to try and fuck up the economy while they have power and like i get that there are actual financial dynamics at work and like eventually you know debtors have to be paid but at the same time like i feel like it works off of this idea of well the u.s government is just another individual that we should think of as like a financial, like a company or a person. And it's actually like, no, they are the like,

they can print money. That's a pretty big difference between them and us. But is there anything drastically wrong that I just said there? No, I would like to have a money printing machine as well. So the debt ceiling is the name for the maximum amount of money that the government is allowed to borrow to pay their bills. So right now the debt ceiling is $28.4 trillion. Casual, right? So you might be thinking that's plenty of money, but no, the debt is over $28.43 trillion. So I know the chances lift up those couch cushions. Right. So the national debt is a couple billion dollars higher than what the government is allowed to borrow. So in situations like this, you would raise the debt ceiling or for the government, you know what, let's just borrow

a little bit more so we can pay what we owe or print that money. But if the government can't decide, there is a deadline looming, guys. I think it's December 3rd. Yeah, they just barely eeked it by. Do you hear Penny? She's very excited about this. The government, if they can't decide about the debt ceiling, that would bring the conversations onto next year's budget to a halt. So if the budget isn't agreed upon, then some federal services can't operate. And then America goes into government shutdown. So government shutdown could So government shutdown could mean delays or pauses in Social Security payments, which are really important to a lot of people, child tax credit payments, veterans benefits, funding for folks affected by natural

disasters, as we talked about, nutrition programs for kids, paychecks for federal employees, like all the things. You can't go, you know, you can't go to national parks or you can't go to the passport agency, like all the government programs won't exist. So it doesn't mean it's a complete shutdown. You know, there are essential things like border control or air traffic control or law enforcement, but a lot of those employees don't get paid actually until the shutdown is lifted. Cool, cool, cool, cool. Yeah.

All right. Yeah. And it's always good for someone to default on their debts, too. You know, like that's bringing the credit score down and then it costs more jobs. And yeah, it's just total chaos but that's what's make that's what makes it so just on just so stupid because the debt is accumulated under presidents of both parties you know and it's something that they constantly have to do but to suddenly act like oh i don't know joe biden blah blah blah it's like well now you're completely mischaracterizing what's happening for the sake of just like winning these cynical you know know, rhetorical points for a campaign.

Well, it wasn't just now. I mean, remember 2019, that was the longest government shutdown in history under Trump was 35 days. We don't want to go back there again. No, you know, it's 2021. Nobody wants to be working for free. And so if the United States could actually default on its loans for the first time, that creates a whole other cascade of issues. You know, the stock market, the global economy. Important things are at stake. Yeah, I've heard of both those things. They must be important.

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And you are either way taller or way shorter than I expected. Yeah, it's I mean, this is apparently happening a lot as many people go from just seeing you on zoom to in physical space. And more just like that. It's also kind of like a lot of people like kind of a weird backhanded compliment or can be a compliment in other situations. But this in this article, they talked to a few different people who are just sort of talking about like the things that they went through. One person who was working remotely ran into like one of their like senior people from their company on a flight. And the person was like shorter than they were. And like this woman was like, I'm short, but I couldn't believe that.

Like this person was shorter than me. She says, quote, I'm short. So I just kind of expect everyone to be taller than me. I think at some level level you expect people who are higher up than you in the company to be taller than you, too. And it's very limited thinking, but I think that's just some bizarre way humans think, probably born out of like evolutionary shit. But the presidents are usually tall. Right. And on this flight, she was like, she was like, I have to know everything about all the co-workers heights now this like for this specific employee they were like they said quote i was like i can't be surprised like this again they said we had our five-hour flight back to dc together so we could really run through the full list of everyone now what i mean does she need some work to do because

i have some i could offer hold on hold on Hold on. You want to know what, how height, what's work on those CPS reports real quick. But this whole thing is like, you know, a lot of people, when you let someone know, like, you're just OMG shocked that they are shorter or taller, that can be taken in a lot of different ways. Like I was saying, right. If you're, you know, if you're like, Oh God, I thought i thought you'd be taller like so what are you trying to say about my height and also what are you saying that my height being what it is how what what how does that affect anything for you it's almost like there's no good way to to make that statement because if you think i'm taller than i actually am based on zoom then that's like i'm well that is how tall I am. So I'm stuck there.

And if you think I'm shorter than I turn out to be, then it's like I give off the energy of like, I give off small energy. I'm short till you have. Yeah. So should we guess all of each other's heights? Well, this is an interesting thing, right? This researcher said that people actually have a really good ability to clock someone's height just from a photograph. Like it's just a weird thing. I just like, they're like, I know it seems odd, but they can do it. I just want to read this one tidbit before we do try this exercise. A few years ago, they did a study where they showed participants photos of people's faces and asked them to guess the heights of the people in the photos. Quote, we found a really

high correspondence between people's ability to tell how tall the people actually were. The judgments are within an inch. This is just from a black and white photo picture of someone's face. So this is but this, I think, doesn't take away from the tall zoom energy. And in fact, I think it lends credence to it because first of all like anybody who has ever like watched a movie and then found out how tall the movie star actually is knows that this is a thing right that like you just expect people to be a different size than they actually are and i think like it's easier with a black and white picture, a snapshot of a stranger. You,

there's no, we're apparently right. We're apparently able to just like get that, like bring that in. But if you're meeting with them for hours a day or just you're on a podcast with them, you start getting like takeaways and like you start getting basically moved away from the truth that you would have

gotten from a single momentary like black and white snapshot and so it it does seem like there is an energetic thing that is like hard to define but that is real you know so look nicole you got you have a few context clues okay Okay. Right. Go ahead. Enter your answer for how tall you are. Jack just sat up in his chair. This really went off screen, didn't it? Sorry, am I out of frame? Sorry, I got to make myself so dang small for these rooms that the normies have to operate in.

How tall do you think Jack and I are? Are you going to guess how tall I am? Yeah. We'll go. And then you say, and we will not react to what you say, and then we will then give our answers back to you, and then we'll say the truth.

I'm going to burst into tears. I can tell you that right away. Okay, then maybe we'll guess Nicole's first. That way Jack doesn't give it away by bursting into tears. Okay. Don't ruin your eye makeup. I believe you are between five seven and five nine um i was gonna go like six seven six eight

i was gonna go three i was gonna go five seven oh interesting i've actually gotten that a lot when I see people IRL and they see me on air or something. They say that I look taller on air. So I'm 5'4". Okay. Yeah. There it is. Maybe I have that tall. You got that between 5'7 and 5'9 energy, Nicole. I don't know what it is. Very specific energy.

I don't know what it is about you, but you get that. That's a good pick. Okay, now you go. What do you think? How tall do you think Jack and I are? Well, it's your old show, and I'm just going to...

Just come with me. Can I just do a, like... You guys are both six feet tall. That's the right answer. That's the safe right answer. That's okay. But if you want my honest honest answer yeah we do want your honest honest answer

Miles you're 5'10 okay yes no and I want to hear Jack's too Jack you're if I say like one of you guys is taller then it's gonna our toxic masculinity comes out

in very odd ways. Not the traditional ways, yeah. Understood. So, Jack, you're six feet. Wow. Yeah, okay, okay. That makes sense. I'm going to hold my tears in. This is so

humiliating! Miles is six, too. Miles is six, too. six two and also i always forget how tall he is when i when i've been like when it's been recording with him yeah and then i see him like wow he's a he's a strong six two and i am five foot three uh no that's not true. I'm six foot between six foot and six foot one. So you really nailed it. Yeah. Yeah.

I'll take five. Well, I was going to say, yeah, I was going to say six across the board. Yeah. No, even though you're like diplomatic, like let me protect their fragile feelings. The answer ended up being right. So I appreciate it. But this whole thing, though, it's interesting. I appreciate it.

But this whole thing though, it's interesting in this other article, they talked about how people who are really tall or really short actually appreciate the mystery that zoom provides because it completely takes out the, Oh wow. You're really tall. How tall are you? How tall are you? Or,

Oh, you're so short. Oh, you're so tiny. You know, like that kind of shit. A lot of people like in that sense, this sort of vague tiny you know like that kind of shit a lot of people like in that sense this sort of vague

you know uh sort of a nebulous concept of height that's given through zoom actually has been an upside for these people like this one woman who's a teacher was like a lot of my teachers a lot of my students they don't know i'm 5 10 and so they just think i'm the teacher or whatever and like she's like into my mind she's like i love it because she's like wait till you see me in the classroom if you guys are talking like that because i'm going to tower over your little kids They just think I'm the teacher or whatever. And like, she's like, into my mind, she's like, I love it. Cause she's like, wait till you see me in the classroom. If you guys are talking like that, cause I'm going to tower over your little kids. Well, you know, I read an article about how the Zoom world has helped pregnant women get raises more than they had before, because you can't see if somebody is pregnant.

before because you can't see if somebody is pregnant. And so there's this idea that once you're visibly pregnant, you know, consciously or subconsciously, an employer thinks like you're going to take time off or, you know, whatever and might not want to invest in you. But you can't see that either. Yeah. Wow. It's just so funny how many, you know, whether it's like Zoom camera fatigue is like another thing that people experience or Zoom based like body dysmorphia from like having to stare at our faces for hours that has like plagued people. Are you staring at yourself right now? No, no, no. I might. I track my eyes pretty constantly.

But there are other times, too, where I'll see myself and then I'm like i'm like my eye you know and like then it's like what the fuck is this like where this is enormous used to just being in a room looking at other people without like a inset screen of like what my face is actively doing so yeah i mean it's just it's this uh new era has given us all new ailments to and i usually do in person keep a makeup mirror going for most of the meetings just so I can kind of have a quick thing that I can check. But the magnified side, because you like, you want to check your pores out and shit. Do you bring a ring light? I don't always bring a ring light.

And that is on me. Missed opportunity. Absolutely. missed opportunity absolutely yeah all right let's talk about google's new candy uh halloween candy graphic which is bullshit as far as i can tell like last week we talked about that map that looked at the unique searches of candy in 50 states where they try to determine which candy was each quote-unquote state's favorite well google just said y'all don't control the fucking data step aside and let us tell you what is the most searched candy and they said look at this map and they said i don't know why you're debating over 50 candies because if you look at the most searched candies

by state there are only two m&ms and candy corn If you're going by what is getting the most, like, that's just it. Those are the highest searched candies, like, that edge out all the other ones. There was no variation, which is really freaking me out. Where are the starbursts? They're definitely not reaching the height of most searched candy. They're just saying, if you want to say what the most searched candy in this period is in California, it's candy corn. Or if it's Alaska, it's M&M's.

Wyoming? M&M's. Pretty much everywhere else is fucking candy corn. And this map, it's like, it's more terrifying to look at than the electoral map in 2016. Candy corn has swept the nation? Or why do we keep talking about it

i think this is the best evidence we have that because we are now because so much of our diet is actually made up of corn in america that like corn has colonized our minds and like we are now just corn aliens who are doing the bidding of corn uh because this makes no fucking sense whatsoever unless we've been we have like a parasite that is telling us to only only care about corn i mean on some level is it showing that we're despite the all the regional things you think it's like deep down we're just these corn-based americans no matter how you cut it we only think two candies exist or people just are searching very specifically for two candies i'm just trying to think what would bring me to google candy corn candy corn

do you like candy corn no i hate it i don dislike it. I've got a real sweet tooth. No, I'm not here for this candy corn content. It's just wax sweetness. That's what it is. If you always wanted to eat a candle, this is your chance. Oh, you guys didn't see the fine print. You see the small asterisks? Brought to you by M&M's. Brought to you by Mars.

We got to do something, folks. Candy corn is taking the nation over. We got to fight back, patriots. And it's like such a straw man thing. Like they pick the worst candy. They're like, everybody likes candy corn and not M&M's. I don't know. You guys.

America, you're letting us down. The green M&M's going to be out of the job soon. It's getting that buzz, that hype. Yeah. Like, if it's almost sold out, then folks think it's going to be cool, and they're going to go get it. I mean, I think I'd, I wonder if people search it because, also, people search it because they hate it. And they're like, dude, what's candy corn even made of? You know, because I have this pattern.

I fall into every, nearly every Halloween, where I will try a piece of candy corn. Like, as if, like, I were a kid, being like, this is the year I will try a piece of candy corn as if I were a kid. Being like, this is the year I will like Brussels sprouts. This is the year I will like candy corn. Every time it's an L, I hate it. I'm disgusted by myself. But then I also search. I'm also weirdly interested in it.

I found out that they used to call it chicken feed before they called it candy corn in some places. So I was like, what the fuck is going on with all this stuff? So I don't know. I think we can search for the right and the wrong reasons. Yeah, because it's not specifying if you're buying it. You're just searching questions about it. Like I have questions also about M&Ms too. Yeah. Like how many colors, too. Yeah. Yeah.

Like, how many colors are there? Yeah. Can I get my own custom one? What's that green one up to right now? You know? It's been around for over 100 years, candy corn. Oh, good Lord. I mean, that makes sense. It's like the candy that they came up with before they realized they could make it good it's like the necco wafers and

like shit like the dots that are just like sugar in various shapes and forms uh and colors i mean you know i wonder if this is one of the things keeping us back from progress in the country it could be you know that we haven't done away with candy corn like so much of our what ales are societally is our our clinging to candy corn still when it offers us nothing. It offers us absolutely nothing. Guys. Yeah.

Just searched candy corn dog. Short answer. Do not feed the pups any candy corn. Really? I'm pretty sure that's true of children and human adults, too. We should not be fed that shit. Oh, it's because it has xylitol in it?

Interesting. Okay. They say xylitol, it's in the candy corn. Not good for dogs. All right, candy corn dog. I want to know the next word after candy corn that people searched. Right. Candy corn.

It's not just candy corn. Right. Digestion. Diarrhea. You know, like. Candy corn white supremacy? You know? that people searched right candy corn not just candy right digestion diarrhea you know like candy corn white supremacy you know that's kind of what i'm looking at again i'm like looking at something just i don't know it just doesn't make it make sense america make it make sense because it's i know we don't like it then the other map that they did was also interesting they were looking up uniquely searched Halloween drinks by state. And this is like one that I

like because it's actually a bit more specific, like regionally, where in Texas, they're searching for the Pennywise cocktail. If you live in New York, it's Halloween Jungle Juice. In California, Brain Hemorrhage Shot.

I mean, these are just spooky guess, spooky things to serve. But I like that ours has, like, the most just gross, fucked up, like, idea of it all. Like, other ones, a lot of people search for blood bag cocktails. Because I guess that's a big fun party drink. But, yeah, there's just a very interesting sort of mix of things. Wrong with people. Yeah. There's a lot of like, you know, Harry Potter,

half-blood prince cocktail. Huh? I'm sorry, they're allowing Bloody Mary as a Halloween drink? I guess it is. I've never really thought about that. Yeah, that is a... Yeah, who looks so Bloody Mary? Virginia and Tennessee.

Virginia and Tennessee. Virginia and Tennessee. I mean, that's the one that makes sense to me. I mean, Witch's Brew seems right. Yeah, that fits. But I didn't realize that in Kansas, they're big on Harry Potter. That's the one where Half-Blood Prince cocktail is. And then South Dakota is the other, I guess, cool JK Rowling cocktail-based searches with butterbeer. But here's my question, Google Trends.

How do you know that what these people are searching is for the drink version? What if there are a bunch of crazy killers with the brain hemorrhage shot? What if this is a whole other thing they're searching? How to get someone with the brain hemorrhage shot yeah what if this is a whole other thing they're searching how to get how to get someone with a brain hemorrhage shot like oh no wait what right how to shoot someone and make it look like a brain hemorrhage syringe jello shots are just like like really like uh bad nurses like on shift they're like i mean fucking arizona is black widow that is a deadly spider that is endemic to the state of arizona like which miles nicely lets out yeah yeah oh no a black widow i

mean if it's in if it's in the building that's one thing like babe i'm out yeah but like regular ones you know i will i will i will escort them out very kindly. Vampires kiss in Louisiana? I mean, that just might be what you're looking for on any given night. Hey, blackberry, lime juice, agave nectar, basil leaves. That's, I guess, what is in a black widow. But I don't know. Anyways, all hail our Lord and Savior, Korn. Nicole, it has been a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist.

Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me at Nicole Lappin wherever social media is served. You can listen daily to Money Rehab. You know where to find it, wherever you find your favorite podcasts. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? I have been enjoying. While we were talking about the debt ceiling, I was thinking about one that I loved,

asking the government if they had the audacity to give us a credit score. Right. Yeah. And they are all in debt. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. There you go.

Miles, where can people find you? you what's tweet you've been enjoying twitter instagram miles of gray also if you like 90 day fiance check out the other show 420 day fiance with sophia alexandra and i were you know just a couple immigrant kids watching this show being like what the fuck is this but we love it it's trash uh so come by for that twitch.tv slash 420 day fiance a tweet that I like. There's a couple. Since we were just talking about these weird cocktail recipes, Willie at Willie Staley tweeted,

Envy the younger generation that completely missed out on the bespoke cocktail revolution of a decade ago and knows it only from jokes. The jokes were all real. There were really guys in suspenders who took 10 minutes to make a drink. And they had mustaches. That's all true. That was the only way you could drink a drink, I feel like, on Melrose at a certain point. Another one, which I really love, is from Jess Tom at Jess Tom.

White people think all Asians come from either Japan or China, which is ridiculous. Because as an Asian American, I know all Asians come from either japan or china which is ridiculous because as an asian american i know all asians come from either norcal or socal um and that just hit me right in my socal asian heart so shout out to that tweet yeah yeah uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien a couple tweets i've been enjoying aaron mcguire olsen tweeted the challenge i'm doing this month is called october and it's where I just try to get through every day of October. And then Jimmy at Jimmy Amfa

tweeted, you're in his DMs. I'm not. I don't want to talk to him. Everyone loves that construction. Yeah. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

Miles, what song are we sending people to go check out? This is, again, we're talking about breaking genres. This is like an R&b future track if it's like as if someone was like trying to make r&b sample based r&b like in the ashes of an apocalypse and all they had was a scratched up d'angelo cd to take samples from this is called shovel by an artist called fred wave and for the d'Angelo fans of the album Voodoo, I say that because there's a really spooky sample of the track Spanish Joint that's being used throughout the track in a very, like, I don't know, very spooky way. That's the only way I can describe it.

So check this out. This is Shovel by Fred Wave. All right. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever fine podcasts are given away for free. That is going to do it for us this morning, but we're back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk to y'all then. Bye. Bye. Bye. Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years. I have a proposal for

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