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Have you seen there's that video of like this British comedian,
there's like JK Rowling coming up with ethnic characters?
Yeah, I haven't seen it, but it's, I can imagine.
Yeah, there was, like it started off being like there's, you know,
Cho Chang of like, would be like Chinese flag and then it'd be Ghanaian flag.
It's like Kingsley Shacklebolt.
And then it was like, then it said Turkish and it was just like,
Schwarmababa.
I mean, Kingsley Shacklebolt.
I only ate on that one.
She literally had shawarma and was like,
Oh, I have an idea for a character.
I mean, didn't she like claim to start writing the book on napkins?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think there's something out of here.
At a Donner kebab place.
You're listening to an iHeart podcast.
You're listening to an iHeart Podcast. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating.
I don't feel emotions correctly.
I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails.
Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko.
It's a show where I take phone calls from anonymous strangers as a fake gecko therapist and try to learn
a little bit about their lives.
I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's very interesting.
Check it out for yourself by searching for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple
podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
I want you to ask yourself right now, how am I actually doing? Because it's a question
that we rarely ask ourselves. All of May is actually Mental Health Awareness Month and
on the psychology of your 20s, we are taking a vulnerable look at why mental health is
so hard to talk about. Prepare for our conversations to go deep.
I spent the majority of my teenage years and my 20s just feeling absolutely terrified.
I had a panic attack on a conference call.
Knowing that she had six months to live, I was no longer pretending that this was my best friend.
So this Mental Health Awareness Month, take that extra bit of care of your wellbeing.
Listen to the psychology of your twenties on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My husband has a secret son from a past partner. Hold up Sam, how do we know how we've done the DNA test?
Well John, luckily it's Mother May I have a DNA test week
on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon.
And this wife writes,
My husband received a Facebook message from a woman saying
that he is the father of a five year old.
Whoa!
At first he didn't remember her,
but then he realized they had a one night stand
right before we started dating.
Wait, but do we have proof he's the dad?
To hear the explosive finale,
listen to the OK Storytime podcast
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hey, I'm Jay Shetty,
and I'm the host of the On Purpose podcast,
and I'm excited for my next episode with Khloe Kardashian.
God, I've been through so many things
that at this point I would rather not feel
than feel because feeling is too much for me to handle.
I am Khloe Kardashian.
Khloe Kardashian everybody!
Khloe Kardashian?
No one understands how it's... I'm not just a TV show.
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.
Hello the internet and welcome to season 387 episode 3 of Dirty Lazy Guys! get your podcast. What a day, what a day. They call it National Tourism Day is what they call it.
It's also National Bike to School Day,
National Interpreter Appreciation Day,
National Packaging Design Day,
National Skilled Trades, shout out to Trades,
National Barrier Awareness Day,
that's about accessibility, National School Nurse Day,
shout out Miss Lee, the school nurse,
who we would always lie and say we bumped our mouth
so we could get a bag of ice just to eat the ice.
That's what I used to do.
Bumped our mouth.
Yeah, I'd be like, I hit my mouth on the tether ball pole.
I wasn't looking.
I need to go to Miss Lee.
And she would just let...
And kids keep bumping their mouth.
I know.
And you would get this big ass bag of crushed ice and they would just bite the thing, just
eat that all day.
And then...
Are you sure it wasn't like the gel that like the blue gel pack like you're sure
You were just eating straight. All right, that's good. I don't know
I mean I did my stomach did go into a state of paralysis every time I had one of those ice bags
But I don't know the jury's out. It's also national roast leg of lamb day and national paste up day
Hey stuff. Yeah, it's it looks like a serial killer cutting letters out of a newspaper
What the image
is like with an X-Acto knife.
That sounds like people with scrapbook trying to like come up with like a street sounding
name for it.
Yeah, we're paced up, Doug.
This is a tip of the hat to the old times of putting together a newspaper where shit
literally had to be pasted together.
Pasted up.
Yeah, yeah, yep, yep.
So remembering the titans.
Of industry.
Of print.
All right, my name is Jack O'Brien, aka I peel the banana ass.
B-A-N-A-N-A-S.
That one courtesy of David Lesser in honor of the conversation that we had yesterday
about where you peel the banana from.
You peel it from the handle that's at the top. The handle you peel the banana from you peel it from the handle
That's at the top the handle or the peel it from the bananas
Yeah, the the bottom part that where all the little things come together in a little banana asshole and some say and I've had this
Experience that the bananas is actually more efficient place to go peel from
I think call me or
fast to try. I don't you know what's yo Loki I did this morning. Did you? Yeah, because I
came on a banana and I was like, all right, assholes, let's have it your way. And then I
was like, and I mushed the shit out of it. I'm like, nah, right. You mushed a good old part.
Yeah, just trying to separate the other part. I don't know, bro.
I can get that peel off so clean from the handle side.
Yeah, yeah, handle side.
All right.
Well, I'm thrilled to be joined by my former co-host.
I don't know if we're gonna survive that revelation
that we peel from two different sides.
What the fuck?
It's Mr. Miles Gray!
Ah, shit, all right, well, I guess for for my last one I'll go out like this one.
Attention!
Saw me outside Sam's Club stumbling like a drug.
Till I floated my back foot in line and landed with no thumb.
You see that motherfucker?
I never failed.
I never failed, bitch.
OK, that was bone crusher.
Never scared.
But that was an illusion to me, slipping and recovering in the grocery
store parking lot and one dude not giving me the fucking big ups.
I respect you deserve anyway.
Shout out Halcyon salad for that.
Fantastic.
One of these days, you're going to get the respect.
You're it's going to like happen on national television.
And I'm not going to do you're going to like glide across an icy street, like through traffic. You're going to happen on national television. I don't know what to do. You're going to glide across an icy street through traffic.
You're going to become internationally famous.
You're going to be like Michael Jordan when he was inducted into the Hall of Fame,
where you just still are motivated by your hatred of that one guy who wouldn't respect you.
Yeah.
They're like, how does it feel?
I'm like, and I took that personal.
This one motherfucker.
This all started because of one motherfucker.
And he doesn't, he doesn't respect you.
He doesn't, he doesn't know how, how much skill it takes to recover from a slip
like that.
Exactly.
Exactly.
That's some shit that I will throw my back out over just like a slip, you know,
like that's our training.
So you just like, I'm going to go seize up all of a sudden.
I'm going to go to the Northeast where they say the slips are intense and I'm gonna have to dominate the region
You know what? I mean the him like Batman begins going to the Himalayas
My icy sidewalk sliding game
Is Batman begins I hope everybody respects that it's not not Bruce Wayne's. Is that Batman Begins? There goes Batman Begins. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat
by one of our favorite guests, a very funny comedian,
writer, banana ass peeler.
Yeah.
You've seen him doing stand-up in places
like your TV and internet.
His album, Ran Through, is now available on Apple and vinyl.
His podcast, Finding My Audience, is available wherever fine podcasts are.
Yeah.
Away for free.
Please welcome back to the show.
The hilarious Alan Strickland, William.
What's up, y'all? Good to be here.
Yeah. And just on the banana ass peeling piece, I
the reason why I do that is because my friend in high school said that's the way the monkeys do it.
That's right. That's how we got to it yesterday.
Okay. So I figured I'm like, well, if that's how they do it, then I feel like that's what we should do.
And why do they do it?
Because they're crazy.
They also throw their shit at each other. You know what I mean? Y'all doing that too?
We should do that too.
We are starting to do that.
Yeah, we are going to do that.
So we're doing a rehearsal suck style training for the 100 man versus gorilla fight.
So we're just trying to get in their head.
I'm throwing my shit everywhere.
Start at birth, Fresa baby gorilla.
Yeah.
Did you watch? Did you watch the third episode?
Yeah. Oh my God.
It's because I'm like, babe, we got to I hear the third episode of rehearsals like amazing.
We got to check it out.
And then I'm the one who's like vouching for this thing that is just so fucking deranged
over the top.
Yeah.
How are you watching?
I haven't seen the new season yet.
OK, it's if you're if you like Nathan Fielder shit like it's not you will not be disappointed.
Yeah, I've been I've been on the I've been finishing up Righteous gemstones. Yeah. Oh shit. If you like Nathan Field's shit, you will not be disappointed.
Yeah, I've been finishing out the Righteous Gemstones.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And I'm behind on that.
So, you know.
Which is not a competition.
It's the better Walton Goggins on HBO performance, I got to say.
Everyone's like, dude, White Lotus.
I'm like, bro, you're sleeping on Uncle Baby Billy?
White Lotus was a crime.
The way that character was written, he didn't have shit to do.
He just likes that.
I mean, he was great in that one scene where what Sam Rockwell was giving that speech and
his just reactions were incredible.
But for the most part, he was just like, I feel like the direction was just like, act
like you have a headache the whole time.
It just felt like you had a headache.
Act like you don't want to be on this show.
Yeah, like I was like, for what?
Like, have you seen him in Vice Principals?
That shit is so fucking funny.
He is so hilarious and like so just like high energy.
And then to like that role, I guess, was supposed to be.
Woody Harrelson, right?
Woody Harrelson.
And that that makes sense.
Like, that's who should have played that role, I guess.
But I don't know that I would have brought out a lot of his recent comments
to light and feel like Jesus Christ.
So I don't even know and don't want to.
I just enjoy him in the whatever commercials those are with Matthew McConaughey.
Were they?
He's in those now, too.
Yeah, he keeps on upping Matthew McConaughey.
Matthew McConaughey is like
Just getting shit on by the world
Woody Harrell, so just so funny man. Those commercials are like whether for like bank stuff, but it's power bait by AI
It's like these really folksy guys just being like hey, I's great
Great.
Which is exactly why they picked them by the way.
They're like, how do we make this not seem like we are the Borg mind that is going to take over your whole world and family is like, well, let's get like
some folksy Southern kind of guys who seem chill.
Yeah.
If the guy who seems chilling narrates the RFK junior documentary.
Oh, good. Yeah. Crunchy. Yeah. I don guy who seems chill and narrates the RFK junior documentary. Oh, good.
Yeah.
Crunchy.
Yeah.
My boy.
I don't know, man.
Maybe AI is pretty chill.
Listen, everybody just needs to take a step back.
Yeah, man.
Don't worry.
It's funny for guys who like are kind of crunchy and into the earth that they'd
also advocate to it for a technology that's actively destroying the earth.
Right.
But again, the checks though, the checks, that's what makes you marketable.
You know, you start your career with like a certain set of presumed values that
proceeding hairline.
Yeah.
And then they sell those off to the big corporations as they, as they require you
to, by the way, Matthew McConaughey is green lights.
Great read, great read and great read and a great audio book.
Cause it's just him talking about his life.
But, um, yeah, pretty, pretty, pretty insane.
And he was like, he was like going bald as a, like in high school or something.
He did like some crazy back then some crazy hair treatment stuff he talks about.
But it's just really funny because this whole, the whole thing's about like
green lights, about like in life, there's green lights that like.
Get you on your way and I just write this long thing and it's like
about like love or whatever.
And then he just goes, green light.
That's like punctuates like every chapter basically.
That's a green light.
That's a green light.
Green light.
And that right there?
That's a green light.
Now watch this kickflip.
I like that the big personal challenge he went through is like almost losing his hair.
I know, yeah.
Being like the most gorgeous human of his generation.
He literally went through an awkward phase.
Like that's like what happened. It wasn't always easy for me.
Then I got the first job I auditioned for and I've been working consistently since then.
Just fucking killing it ever since.
That's what we call a green light.
Green light.
All right.
Now, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about
today. We want to check back in with Trump's Alcatraz plan,
because we got some insight into where this decision came from. Fascinating little monologue
that he delivered. We'll check in with the tariffs, both the monetary side of it, like what it's supposed to be bringing in money-wise
and what it's actually going to.
And also the movie tariff.
We like movies on this podcast.
This dang tariff coming home to roost.
So we just wanna look at the history of that decision,
where it came from,
why it's not impossible.
Why it's dumb? And why the answer came from a guy who was in Anaconda.
Yeah. But also, it can't be a thing. It's so weird because everybody,
like The Hollywood Reporter, LA Times is all just front page,
like, what does this mean for the future of Los Angeles? And like, it's not even possible.
Like, I don't know.
It doesn't seem like it's a thing.
It's not a.
Terrifiable thing.
Yeah.
Uh, anyways, uh, we'll talk about that.
We might get to, uh, how Newark airport doesn't work anymore.
It's just, I saw that headline or I saw one headline that was like a former guy
was like, it's a disaster waiting to happen.
Yeah. They just lost contact.
When a phone will drop,
that phone call will drop,
that happened to their entire connection from
their air traffic control to all the airplanes for 30 seconds.
I heard they're actually changed the name of the airport to Nowork.
Nowork.
Nowork. for 30 seconds. I heard there actually changed the name of the airport to no work. No, don't work more like don't don't.
We're at Liberty Internet.
There you go.
Did it out.
Do not.
Yours was good.
I'll have all that.
Plenty more.
But first out, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Okay.
So, um, this is connected to another thing of mine, but I'll just,
I'll just leave it at this.
I was looking up Mary Lou Henner because she, I thought she showed up in the
season finale of ER and it was her.
And then from that, I jumped over to, she has something called, I think I
have the tab up right now.
She has something called hyperthymesia, which is, so there's like a hundred
people in the world that can, it's not just memory, but it's like, they can
recall pretty much everything that they've ever experienced, who was there,
what they were wearing, everything around it without it really even being recalled. It's not like they're
using tricks or trying to remember it. It's just like their brain just works
this way. So that's what I don't I don't do Google search really anymore. So I I
just like looked at what I was been on up to on Wikipedia. But that's it.
Hyperthyme. Hyperthyme. He's you blew my world two nights ago. That's it. Hyper hyperthymesia blew my world two nights ago.
That's wild.
But also before that, you said you were watching the season finale of E.R.
Yeah.
So I mean, kind of connected to the other stuff I got after I watched the pit,
talking about great TV shows, watched the pit, pit ended.
And I was like, I need my fix.
So I just went to the methadone to the pits heroin and started watching the ER.
So the pit is better than ER is what it's different.
It's like ER is more of like ER is way more of like an old older TV show.
Like there's like very special episodes.
There are similar people involved in the creation of it.
The main guy on the pit, he starts as a like
first year medical student or whatever at the hospital on the first episode of ER.
So you get to watch him.
But he is like 50. It's 15 seasons long.
It's so much time.
It's also back when like TV shows had 20 episodes a season.
Yeah.
And it just goes through so many different like people show up.
This was also back when like the big thing was like you'd have like a movie star
guesting on a TV show.
Right.
So it'd be like, that'd be like, oh, wow, it's really special that like
Ernest Borgnein,
a very special episode of ER with this Borgnein.
But yeah. So, and I, I was a big, um, I watched a lot of Nick at night and a kid. I, I just saw someone talking about how there's no Nick at night anymore, but, um,
you know, it's like where you see like old shows in the seventies or sixties or
whatever.
Are they shit candid at night?
I just think it's like it's too
Yeah, I get this point dead who was watching it get young people would know how to do do anything with it
Yeah, yeah, we've kind of watched that out of like boredom because there's nothing else on there's nothing else on right?
Yeah, I could barely you would watch Nick at night. Oh, yeah, but sometimes incidentally passing by
Genie taxi was so good and had it had Mary Lou and it had Danny DeVito and
Christopher Lloyd and who's the crazy guy Andy?
Kaufman Kaufman
Coffin Eddie Kaufman, but yeah, so I was like that looks like Mary Lou hitter who used to watch watch every night
Yeah, 10 p.m. Or whatever. Um, and was her, but yeah, so she's got that crazy thing.
I don't know that she, it like, when she talks about it, does she, is she glad
she had, there's a gorgeous short story called Funes the Memorias that's like
about somebody who very, uh, seventies TV style, like gets hit on the head and
has this ability where they like, stop remembering everything and like they come to view it as a curse.
Like is she does she feel like it's a curse or I don't think so.
I think she probably likes it.
I mean, she's pretty like hippie dippy too.
I remember this weird.
I remember seeing her on like Oprah or something and also being like, is that the
lady from Taxi, but she was like hawking some like scrub, like it was like a sponge.
And she was just right.
I was like, it's good to like wipe off your dead skin cells in this in this
certain direction. And I was like, oh, so this is kind of
out there or whatever.
Right. But yeah, I didn't really read too much about her,
her specific experience with it.
I just kind of, I do that.
I'm a big Wikipedia.
Um,
Wikipedia is the only unbroken part of the, yeah.
Yeah.
I, I like the thing that technology has given us that I'm still like, you
should get money to Wikipedia, like a plus on this one.
I toss them a couple bucks every year.
Oh yeah.
Me too.
Yeah.
I like hanging out that Wikipedia is my third space.
Bucket town square.
Something you think is underrated.
Uh, Oh, I'm going to say we spa right here in Los Angeles.
We spa is a 24 hour, seven day a week Korean spa.
I feel like you can go at any time.
I think it costs $35 just to get in and then you can just, you can enjoy the hot
tubs and the sun and everything.
It's just amazing.
And I just feel like, especially in LA, it's like, I, I feel like it, it's
recognized and everything, but I, I still don't feel like enough people are going.
I feel like, no, no, for sure.
Like love talking about, but what, so, all right, get described because I've had this.
Pitch to me.
My wife is Korean and we, she's gone, but I just like, have not been able to
like get myself motivated to go like when you go, what's, what's, what's that afternoon?
So, so the thing about it that that does turn people off is it's like when you're
in this sort of like gendered it's like separated like so
Men women women. Yeah. Yeah, and I think that they're also pretty good on on the gender fluidity stuff
But you go and the thing is is that you have to be when you're in those areas. You're naked
So it's like and you don't have to be naked. There's tons of people that just wear the shorts or whatever, but
That's the thing that throws you off.
You get a little locker, but then it's like, what I typically do is like, you
go, they have showers, you take a shower.
And then I'll, I usually go straight to the sauna.
I, I like the wet sauna.
I think they call it, which sounds really gross actually, but, um, it's
not the dry one, whatever it is.
So right.
But it's not a steam room.
It's a sauna where they're pouring water on the rocks.
Oh, maybe it's a steam room because the thing comes out.
The thing comes out of something.
It's not rocks.
There's like five different levels of cold that you can get hit with.
Yeah. Yeah.
So so so there's like the lower levels where like you're chilling and you can like,
yeah, you get in the sauna, then there's a hot tub, a warm tub, a cold tub.
You can chill there.
And then there's like there's a room that's just recliners and like a TV that's usually
showing whatever sports is on.
You can go there. You can.
I have your phone with you.
I have my I'll take my laptop and I'll work.
I'll work in that room.
And then there's a sleeping room where you can straight up just be like, oh, I'm, I feel like I could sleep right now.
You can go steal an hour or two and there.
And then you go upstairs to the gym.
Joe bang, I think is how you say it.
And it's like there you there you have like these multiple different rooms that are coed.
People are you're obviously wearing like a shirt now
or whatever but um and shorts, but uh
You you can go there and that's also winning the pooing it. You're not winning the pudding there
And the the floor is like heated in this huge room. So it's a lot of people
It's like you just go in a sort of lie down there read
There's a little cafe that has good food.
And then there's also upstairs.
There's like a sort of outdoor area where you can chill.
This sounds like ancient Rome.
It's very like chilling, laying down.
It's like it's like it's like the Korean version of like a of like a bathhouse, I
guess, like, but it but it's like families go and stuff.
So it's not it.
You don't feel weird there or whatever., I know that it can be weird with like the getting naked thing, but I, and it was, and the weirdest part about it is it's
not that you're naked.
It's like, you don't know where to go the first time you're there and to be naked and kind of
like, ah, that's a naked and afraid for real.
That's a bad sign. Naked and afraid for real.
Yeah.
But, but really.
So you go the first time and maybe go with like a friend or go with your wife and then that way you can meet up later.
But then it's like the second time then you're like, then you're like a pro and you see the people that are new.
Yeah.
And then it's kind of, yeah, exactly.
So, so anyway, you don't get anywhere. And then it's kind of, yeah, exactly.
So anyway, that's the weird part.
And then you turn on the people who are new
and start like being like,
ha ha, you're naked.
Freckin'.
He's naked.
He's ringing a triangle bell.
Like.
But anyway, yeah.
Let's take a quick break, we'll come back,
we'll hear what you think is overrated
and get into some news.
I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly.
I am talking to a felon right now and I cannot decide if I like him or not.
Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take real
phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake gecko therapist
and try to dig into their brains
and learn a little bit about their lives.
I know that's a weird concept,
but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot.
Matter of fact, here's a few more examples
of the kinds of calls we get on this show.
I live with my boyfriend,
and I found his pissizjar in our apartment.
I collect my roommates' toenails and fingernails.
I have very overbearing parents.
Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out of their house.
So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head
and see what's going on in someone else's head,
search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
It's the one with the green guy on it.
Hey, my name's Jay Shetty, and I'm the host of On Purpose.
And I'm excited for my next episode with Khloe Kardashian.
God, I've been through so many things
that at this point I would rather not feel
than feel because feeling is too much for me to handle.
All right, we're ready.
I am Khloe Kardashian. Khloe Kardashian, everybody! Khloe Kardashian? rather not feel than feel because feeling is too much for me to handle. Alright, we're ready.
I am Khloe Kardashian.
Khloe Kardashian everybody.
Khloe Kardashian.
No one understands how it's, I'm not just a TV show.
There would be times that I was like, I don't even want to go out to the grocery store because
I feel like I know what they're thinking about me and that was scary to me because I've
never been in a dark place for that long.
You've always taken care of others. Have you discovered anything about why you've seen yourself take on that role in so many relationships in your life?
How do you even find the courage to trust again?
Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
My husband has a secret son from a past partner.
Hold up, Sam, how do we know
how we've done the DNA test?
Well, John, luckily it's Mother,
may I have a DNA test week
on the OK Storytime podcast?
So we'll find out soon.
And this wife writes,
my husband received a Facebook message
from a woman saying that he is the father
of a five-year-old.
Whoa!
At first, he didn't remember her, but then he realized they had a one-night stand right before we started dating.
Wait, but do we have proof he's a dad?
Well, the author says there's no confirmation the kid is even his son,
but the woman from Facebook has a meeting with her lawyer soon.
I think she's going after our money.
If the kid is actually my husband's, she would be entitled to it too.
So what's the husband got to say about this? This could be his kid.
Well, apparently he broke down
in the middle of the living room apologizing,
but this is what scared me.
His first instinct, if the kid is his son,
is to pay the child support,
but not be an active father in the kid's life
because he only wants a family with me, his wife.
Oh, this is a mess.
To hear the explosive finale,
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And Alan Strickland Williams, we love to ask our guests.
We love it.
What is something that you think is overrated?
He says, he spas underrated.
What's overrated.
I'm going to go kind of in the same, same like direction, but the other What is something that you think is overrated? He said, he spas underrated. What's overrated?
I'm going to go kind of in the same same like direction.
But the other way, I'm going to say Florida.
I know Florida is already, I would say, underrated.
It's not underrated enough.
Or it's not.
Or it's people already don't think highly of it.
So I think I think I think, but I still think it's too overrated.
America's steam room and it is a sign that it's an it's a uncontrolled son in a
lot of ways, but yeah, it's like because people are moving there like, you know,
it's like you're moving there and Texas on purpose has a choice.
And yeah, so that's sort of like I you from there? Yeah. I definitely researched that. I've definitely done the title of gone back recently.
Did some Wikipedia.
And yeah.
And it's still, uh, it's still just a mess down there.
Very overrated, very overrated.
These people don't know that these people do not know the, the psychic
trauma that they're setting themselves up for when they moved to Florida.
The, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, we, overrated, very overrated. These people do not know the psychic trauma that they're setting
themselves up for when they moved to Florida.
We did Thanksgiving in Florida and my parents got the turkey at a place that is just like,
I don't know why, but it's like Trump theme. Like there was a cutout of Donald Trump and a urinal cake that had Joe Biden's face on it.
But then they bought their turkey from this place?
Yeah.
It's a restaurant?
They ordered their turkey.
Or like a butcher shop?
Yeah, yeah.
It's a Tofur, it's a Tof-Ure-No-Cake?
Tofur, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Right?
It's, yeah, it's like a whole foods, but Florida style.
Yeah.
Oh, I wonder if you can say publics.
It's not a public.
So it's like some, some, something that's unique.
Florida's that gang.
We know you're there.
What is the, yeah, it's not maybe not Winn-Dixie.
Shout out to Winn-Dixie.
That's where my sister used to work when we lived in Kentucky.
All right. Should we get into some news?
Yeah.
It's still happening, this news stuff.
But yeah, we wanted to check back on
the evolving story of why Donald Trump wants to open Alcatraz.
Evolving in that we solved it immediately.
He must have saw this shit on TV.
Yeah, we were like, he probably saw Escape from Malcom Tresla.
My thing is I'm like, yes, probably,
but it would be funnier if he got the idea from watching,
So I Married an Axe Murderer.
I know.
Right.
And the Phil Hartman monologue.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Was it something about a bitch and their ocular cavities
or something, I remember always being like, what the fuck is this?
And I was just being on Comedy Central, no editing, I remember as a kid.
But yeah, he was asked and, you know, just went off prompter and gave his answer.
And it was an amazing answer.
Oh yeah.
I mean, it's, it is wild because you're just like, what the f- what could it,
what prompted this and the answer he
gave when a journalist asked was actually better than I could
have even hoped because it was so all over the place and
senile. Yeah, let's just realize that one of the one of his first
responses here is that he says that he should have been a movie
maker. You're gonna hear this part. And here here we go.
Once you decide to reopen Alcatraz? Can you walk us through that decision?
Did I say what?
To reopen Alcatraz. How will you use it? How did you come up with the idea?
Well, I guess I was supposed to be a movie maker. We're talking,
we started with the movie making Will End. I mean, it represents something.
Sorry. Hold on. We started with the movie making Willend.
So I see talking about the tariff thing right before.
Maybe he's talking about the tariff thing that we're going to talk about in a
moment where he was like, Tara making tip, but I, what does that have to do with
Alcatraz?
I think he's like trying, he's, uh, this is Trump jazz.
This is Trump poetry where he's like being like, I'm in touch with, um, I'm in touch
with like the cinematic elements of like, he goes on to talk about, yeah.
He goes on to talk about like it's power as an image, which is interesting.
That's also true.
But there's also funny because he, a lot of these guys did want to be movie makers.
Yeah.
I think, and then they kind of got 80% of them. When it got shut out and everything.
Okay. So this is so he's making.
So in its head, he's making a little movie.
I think so.
Let's okay. That's a charitable sort of analysis.
Let him go on.
He should have. I should have been a movie made in the movie.
I guess I was supposed to be a movie maker.
I guess one more time movie maker.
Let's let's just hear it again.
You decide to reopen Alcatraz?
Can you walk us through that decision?
Did I say what?
To reopen Alcatraz.
How will you use it?
How did you come up with the idea?
Well, I guess I was supposed to be a movie maker.
We're talking, we started with the movie making,
and we'll end.
I mean, it represents something very s-
Oh, OK.
I think he was saying it must be that
the press conference was about the movie making.
Yeah.
Uh-huh.
Now he's bull- and I think he said,
and we'll end, I think he's trying to say that he's bull-ending this.
He's tying it back together.
With movie talk.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's jazz, it's the weave as he was calling it.
This is the Dan Harmon story cycle.
He's going right to-
That's right. He's ripped off from Joseph Campbell.
He's a student. Yeah. He's going back to what Trump's a student.
Yeah.
He's like, I'm actually more of the Joseph Campbell variety.
I think Dan Harmon took a lot of liberties with that and they think he's a genius.
You know, not everything has to mean something.
Yeah.
Strong, very powerful in terms of law and order.
Our country needs law and order.
Alcatraz is, I would say, the ultimate, right? Alcatraz, Sing Sing order Alcatraz is I would say the ultimate right Alcatraz sing-sing and Alcatraz
But the movie is right now a museum believe it or not a lot of people go
Can't believe it. I can't believe it. Alan, are you able to believe that?
I can't believe that.
I'm hearing this for the first time.
Oh my god.
That's great.
Believing it or not, anyone.
The information that he's just learning as like it
new to everybody else.
And they're saying it's a museum now.
Believe it or not. That is the pretext of The Rock.
The movie that we're all talking about and assuming that he
saw and gave him the idea for this.
The pretext is it's a museum now.
Everybody knows it's a museum to the point that
Michael Bay didn't feel the need to explain that it's a museum.
No.
It's a museum.
There was a tour group that got taken over.
Yeah.
Deal with it.
I married an Axeberger, also an iconic,
as we mentioned, a big scene
that takes place at the Alcatraz Museum.
But yeah, I think his brain is not
drawing necessarily on the 90s movies.
I think it's the 70s.
I really think it's like Escape from Alcatraz,
mixed with a coloring book picture of a jail cell on an island with a bunch of sharks circling it.
Yeah, you know, this would have been like that's the level of like a children's coloring placemat at a caro's restaurant.
You know, in the Bay Area, it's like, oh, can you color around the sharks around Alcatraz? Yeah, even in the rock, there's a guy when they when they get put in the cell that one guy goes man
What kind of fucked up tour is this? Yeah and still great. Sure. He goes on though. There's there's a lot more
It's a very powerful image. Okay, and believe it or not
It's a museum and also dilapidated a lot of people don't know this and nobody ever escaped one person almost got there
But that's not true.
Three people actually, and were ever found again.
But OK, sorry to fact check.
They, as you know, the story, they found his clothing rather badly ripped up.
And it was a lot of shark bites, a lot of a lot of problems.
Nobody's ever escaped from Alcatraz.
And
what do you know? problems. Nobody's ever escaped from Alcatraz. They found his clothing badly ripped up and it was a lot of shark bites.
A lot of how many shark bites?
At least a few packs.
How big was this shirt?
It had multiple shark bites.
Remember those candies from the 80s when you see shark bites?
A lot of those.
Maybe it was tiny sharks.
They only took like hundreds of bites. They only eat shark bites. A lot of those. Maybe it was tiny sharks. They only like hundreds of bites.
They only eat shark bites.
A lot of problems.
Not even like the guy got so bit up.
He's like, oh, man, a lot of problems with that body.
I guess I guess I just go back to jail.
Yeah.
Wait, I think it sounds like the way he talks, it sounds like he's talking about
a guy named Al
Catraz, right?
As tough guy made a prison.
No one got out.
Yeah.
He then goes on to reiterate the stupid ass point.
He's like, and then we're going to do it a lot bigger, a lot of expanded on a,
an Island with very limited square footage.
You're going to somehow expand the.
Anyway, so it stood out.
It's just like one of those things, too, because Stephen Miller also went on TV to try and defend it and just was like so bad at that.
He was just doing the same like Stephen Miller's angle was more like we need to
do this to scare the shit out of evil people who will never be anything more than
murders. And that's why Alcatraz is a great symbol.
Like he was trying to pivot that it's like, it's not that he thinks
it's functionally great, but as a, as an icon, it's great to scare.
Well, you remember when out seeing the movies.
We remember when Alcatraz was, was in operation.
No one was murdering anybody.
It was America.
I'm still, it was the fifties and sixts and 70s when murder was at an all-time low
No one was murdering there weren't even yeah
And it's not like it was going around and murdering multiple people and not getting away with ever in the Bay Area
No
People with Alcatraz in the background
Alcatraz's watch. Yeah.
He's murdering people with Alcatraz in the background.
The fucking Zodiac killer's killing people
with Alcatraz in the background.
Yeah, it's also the height of murder in the United States.
All right, all right.
Why is he on trial?
This guy's, look, why are you poking fun
at a senile old man that has no business
being president of the United States of America?
I should go easier on the game.
Dude, Trump just goes, man.
You should really be punching up, Jack.
Really poor taste.
That's right.
That's how you get out of Alcatraz. You got to punch up through the soil.
Yeah, that's right.
With a plastic spoon, and you can eat away at the concrete walls.
And then you can actually ride a shark to safety.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a bad sharks are bad prison guards.
They don't give a fuck about people.
They aren't that like, despite again, like this is from the quicksand image
of how the world operates.
It's like, and then they have hungry sharks that are circling the island.
He's entering his Dr. Evil phase.
Yeah, he's right.
He really believes that sharks are going to catch the people.
If you've seen Thunderball with the James Bond classic Thunderball,
you know Emilio Largo had all those sharks around there.
That's why he's so evil.
I spent some time watching some Mike Myers movies this weekend and I've got some ideas.
I've got multiple ideas.
There should be a guy called Fat Bastard.
That's your pitch.
That's a that's a just a guy.
He's Scottish and he scares them.
And then one guy who eats dead skin.
That'd be cool.
Call him Goldmember.
But anyway, this is his idea.
We'll see where this goes.
I feel like it's like everything he'll say it, maybe mean it.
Maybe it's a distraction.
Maybe it's a distraction from the fact that tariffs are on the horizon and are going to absolutely make us a ton of money, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah, exactly.
So this is another thing he's been while he's been saying stuff like Alcatraz and I'm gonna tear off the movies He's also been saying stuff like we're collecting more revenue from tariffs than sleepy Joe Biden ever did and he's basically okay
This is this is all on the horizon just just to put everything into perspective, right?
there was the 90-day pause on tariffs Trump announced in April that's gonna end on July 8th and
Trade deals take months to put together and many people like he's gonna have to put together some and trade deals take months to put together. And many people are like, he's going to have to put together some new
trade deals because the other version is he goes, never mind.
And that is he at least wants to have deals that he's made.
And a lot of economists like that takes months, in some cases, years to flesh out.
So any quote unquote deals from deals.
Yeah. But that's what they say.
Like, I think a lot of economists are just being like,
they want to add the caveat to like any perceived deal that he could make would
likely lack the kind of complexity and thought that would actually end up being
any kind of measurable win for the United States.
So people like Hannity and Trump are talking up again, amazing revenues that
we're picking up and we're winning because of all this fucking tariff revenue. So just let's break the claim down for like one second.
Trump has been bragging right that we're on course to collect over 200 billion
dollars in tariff revenue in 2025 and that's important because the whole
reason Trump is obsessed with tariffs is because he's like I like William
McKinley who was a terrible president who also loves tariffs. He gets, this is all a part of an effort to replace the IRS
and get rid of income tax
because that will be replaced with tariffs.
That's the whole reason he's like, it's gonna be great.
We won't even need income tax anymore
because everyone is gonna be bankrolling our shit.
Now, $200 billion is the most we would collect this year.
In 2024, the IRS collected $2 four trillion dollars in income taxes alone.
So how does that more right?
I'm not great with math, but yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know B comes before T.
Yeah.
And you would think it's better alphabetically, but the T that's better.
Actually, T two point two point four T trillion dollars.
Very much a lot of money.
So apparently he thinks he's going to 10x that tariff revenue to get to 2.
If he's claiming like we're about to get 200. Okay.
How do you get to 2.4 trillion? Because that's not going to work.
Oh, that's right. Because he's dumb and this makes no sense.
And he's an old senile like fuck wit,
whose best ideas come from other people's worst ideas.
So please note this statistic to any like MAGA person you talk to who thinks
the tariffs will do anything except ruin this already fucked economy.
It's like, okay, sure.
200 billion.
How do you get to 2.4 trillion?
By doing some very strong research.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Even beyond that, it's like, I just saw something where the first
shipments,
since all this started, arrived in L.A.
gets everything first because it's closer to China.
So it's like we just got the first shipment and it's like something like half full.
Like you're not even half full.
They say it's 60 percent every week.
It's like volumes down 30 percent.
Yeah. This week, the port of L.A. said it's down 60 percent. Yeah. So it's like% every week. It's like volumes down 30%. This week, the Port of LA said it's down 60%.
Yeah.
So it's like, at a certain point, it'll just be like, they, we won't need to do research
or whatever.
People will just be like, I can't buy anything.
Yeah.
And that's a huge thing.
A lot of people are wondering is will this actually end up being the radicalizing event
for MAGA people or will they dig down deeper?
Because you know, I'm like the pandemic they didn't seem to give a fuck about like anything. They just created a new reality
Yeah, 100% and I'm like, is that gonna happen? Although I feel like consumerism is like just part of the
DNA of American society. Like so many people measure like how their life is going
based on how much shit they can buy or how cheap shit is.
So I think at the very least, the people who aren't completely
like MAGA to the max.
They'll peel off.
They'll probably peel off.
And then, yeah, you'll probably get these other people like,
actually, I love that gasoline is seven 50 a gallon.
But have we like boiled it down?
Isn't it just like the pure fucking like iron or mega at this point?
It's like 40% of the population.
They've just like been there through all of it and they're just like, I don't
give a fuck.
Yeah.
I just decide what I think is good based on what he says.
Yeah.
But I think the difference is now there's definitely a crop of people who are like
trying to appeal to the president, like on the internet, who are like at president
trouble, I supported you every election.
I'm like, my small business cannot survive 90 days of it.
Yeah.
Of like anything.
What do I do?
That's the part where I think like the culture war grievances, I don't know if
there'll be enough to like offset the material realities that people are facing.
And I think that's the interesting, I guess, experiment or whatever weird shockwave we're about to see what happens.
And not to not to talk up Florida, because I know I was just bagging on it.
But last time I was home and I'm from a pretty conservative part of the state, I saw protests and it was fucking fucking 85 degrees.
It was hot as hell.
And there are people out there.
I'm like, if people are protesting and, and this part of Florida, like that is,
that's bad.
That's saying that is saying something.
Yeah.
A lot of the stop, the oligarchy tour, like sold out arenas are in like those areas that
would seem to be deep red.
And, yeah.
And as I made reference to the, the very wrong, the very strong research
he's doing, uh, very wrong street search is a reference to his Hollywood
tariffs, which as we talked about on yesterday's trending, aren't a thing.
Like can't happen are illegal, which I'm
gonna tear up ghosts. Yeah, it's basically that it's like there's a law from 1988
that's like you use specifically like they passed a law explicitly barring the
president from regulating in any way the import or export of things like movies
books and music so I think it's the very strong research he did as we covered on yesterday's trending was just like talking
to John Voight and the head of John Voight's production company.
Yeah.
And the head of the production company was like, I don't know, man.
He took like phrases from what we said.
Yeah.
He took like the 10 words on either side of tariff and then just cut out all other
context. So yeah, he's a genius. So that's how we're going to pay for it is by imaginary
tariffs that are legally impossible. Yeah. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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I don't feel emotions correctly.
I am talking to a felon right now and I cannot decide if I like him or not.
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Matter of fact, here's a few more examples
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God, I've been through so many things
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than feel because feeling is too much for me to handle.
All right, we're ready.
I am Khloe Kardashian.
Khloe Kardashian, everybody.
Khloe Kardashian.
No one understands how it's, I'm not just a TV show.
There would be times that I was like,
I don't even want to go out to the grocery store
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And that was scary to me
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You've always taken care of others.
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Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty
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right before we started dating.
Wait, but do we have proof he's a dad?
Well, the author says there's no confirmation
the kid is even his son,
but the woman from Facebook has a meeting
with her lawyer soon.
I think she's going after our money.
If the kid is actually my husband's,
she would be entitled to it too.
So what's a husband gotta say about this?
This could be his kid.
Well, apparently he broke down
in the middle of the living room apologizing,
but this is what scared me.
His first instinct, if the kid is his son,
is to pay the child support,
but not be an active father in the kid's life
because he only wants a family with me, his wife.
Oh, this is a mess.
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And it's been a bad couple weeks abroad for Trump supporters.
I'd say.
Yeah.
For Trump supporters abroad.
Trump supporters abroad.
People who are like the goofiest people ever.
What's your excuse over there?
Yeah, so you know you're, you come over here.
It's not over here.
You'll be out here.
Oh, trade you.
Yeah.
But yeah, we've seen this reflected in, you know, the people who are even
remotely associated with Trump losing badly in elections in Canada and Australia,
who like their opponents will make up lies about them to make them seem more
Trump friendly, that's how bad it's gotten.
But anyways, we wanted to check out, check in with like a person who is like
pro mega, because those exist too.
It's not just people doing like the political, politically expedient thing.
They, they also have supporters there who are like, yeah, man, that's what I'm
talking about, you know, they're just, they just happen to be like 15% of the
population instead of 40. I think a lot of people, they're like,
man, I'm racist,
but I get too much shit wearing my Nazi stuff.
So this MAGA hat gives me a little bit more cover,
and we get to wink at each other.
But yeah, this guy in Sydney,
Australia decided to have a MAGA cafe.
So first he had a blatant MAGA cafe,
and then that went under, and then he MAGA cafe, and then that went under.
And then he waited a few years and then tried another cafe and soft maga.
And so just to start off, right.
The first one that failed, uh, happened when like he closed it in 2020, because he was
quote, involved in a series of internet controversies in which he called a community member a homophobic slur
He also declared his cafe a Donald Trump safe zone, which served pancakes with quote a side of racism
Wait that was from hit that wasn't somebody saying that about him that was like their claim
No, that's him being like this is a this, this is a Donald Trump safe zone and we have pancakes
through the side of racism.
Like racism is like, what?
That doesn't make anything case.
What are you fucking saying?
Be like, yeah, we're a pro-racism.
Like they just don't usually come out and say that.
Yeah.
But I'm saying that's where these people have it so fucked up in their minds.
Like, I don't know, dude, this guy's the president over
there and American stuff seems to be cool.
I guess maybe this is cover for my racism.
So yeah, then basically after the place closed, he
blamed the quote left week, left wing fake vegan
community for the closure, telling those who
criticize his attitude to quote, go fuck yourself.
So now he's got his newest place.
It was a place called Bueno.
And again, unfortunately, a very progressive part of Sydney.
And people did not forget that this guy was a MAGA asshole and just trying to open
a new spot at this place now closed only six weeks after opening.
And this time he blamed snowflakes for the the failing of
the venture so when like this time I think he learned that he should keep his
mouth shut and just like maybe don't talk about the MAGA stuff and he kind of
did that when he was asked when this new place reopened about like how he said
gay people weren't welcome at his last eatery and like how homophobic he was he
claimed that those were childish comments and those opinions quote,
he does not hold them today.
That sounds like you can trust him on that one.
Yeah. I feel like he's learned his lesson.
Now, tomorrow he might hold them again.
Yeah. Cut to him trying to give away free coffee,
the people boycotting the place and he shut down his post announcing the shutdown.
He just goes full mask off homophobe transphobe.
OK, this is like this is the KO announcement for the business that close quote.
We closed. Yeah, we can't survive in an area where people can't figure out
if they are male, female dogs or cats.
Unfortunately, the owners use in parentheses his own.
He puts his own name because he's running this thing. Mark DaCosta are simple. You go to Dick, you're a male.
You got a muff, you're a female.
That's what he's posting in this fucking thing about announcing
that his fucking restaurant closed.
Then goes on, what you think you are should be respected, but you
cannot force that upon others.
You must equally have respect for what other people believe to be truth.
Even though you're actively denying other. This is, this is a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, You should be respected, but you cannot force that upon others. You must equally have respect for what other people believe to be truth.
Even though you're actively denying other this wait, so it's not reciprocal.
It's like, let me say my backwards shit.
Don't push back.
And now, and everything.
And you have to eat my shitty food.
Oh, exactly.
Exactly.
It's all coming from a guy that's in the wrong place.
Yeah.
Like this is location, location, location.
Do this in, do this somewhere.
You'll, you'll, you'll be rich.
We're probably like five blocks over in Sydney.
You know, like, like Australia is not a fucking progressive.
Huh?
Like there's play.
I've seen some commercials over there.
There's like wildly racist.
Yeah.
Look, you'll always find your racist airs.
I think he was just trying to have his racist cake and eat it too.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm trying to be in the poppin' area or whatever.
I know we have Ozzy's I gang.
Let me know if that St.
Peter's area is as progressive as they are reporting in the news,
but that seems to be one thing I hear over and over again.
Then so he goes on,
he said, this is the best part.
He goes on to pivot to promote his shitty music.
Oh, so he goes on me, the owner, parenthetical again, Mark D'Acosta,
ex Australian idol 2007 is finally releasing a song under the rock and
roll name Marcus Blackbird titled only a lie.
I encourage you queer freaks to have a listen.
Don't confuse gay with queer, please. Queers are confused and angry.
Gays are happy and normal.
And then put Instagram to his music at Marcus Blackbird music.
Miles, do we have to listen to this?
I feel like we need to check out this guy's.
I I there he I've sadly I did go to the Marcus Blackbird page.
Do you want so?
No, I actually I don't hear it.
It doesn't even like there's not even lyrics.
I when I listen to it, I'm like, is this an AI backing track?
Like the quality was so weird that I'm like, is this real guitars
or what AI thinks guitars are?
And I wouldn't put it past him.
But it's just funny that he's like, I'm putting, is this real guitars or what? A I thinks guitars are. And I wouldn't put it past him, but it's just funny that he's like, I'm putting
the maggot he even said when he opened this, like I'm over 2020 and the Donald
Trump stuff, but in this post where he's saying like, fuck all of you, he's
wearing a MAGA hat and just giving fucking double barrel with like a Donald Trump
T-shirt where Donald Trump doesn't have a shirt on and looks like he's like tatted
up like Bieber had it up, but also like obese, like one of the guys from Dune too, like coming out of the real bath.
Yeah.
It looks like a harkening.
Like, is that cool?
I feel like it's Donald Trump.
That's cool enough to these people.
Um, but yeah, I just, there I found there.
Wait, so he won Australian Idol because that would have been the
implication miles of that post. It sounded like, you know, former Australian Idol? No, no, no. Because that would have been the implication, Miles, of that post.
It sounded like, you know, former Australian Idol.
He appeared on Australian Idol in 2007.
Oh, copy.
And on the blog, Joe, my God, they dug up the clip from him on there.
Oh, no.
He can kind of sing. I'll give him that.
But the most memorable part was this opening package about Mark DaCosta as a K as like a contestant
Was that he got stage fright? Oh
DaCosta has been a face on the Sydney music scene for years, but he flew under the radar in his first audition
You need cool and a baby I'm not fooling
Mark had an uncharacteristic attack of stage fright.
Oh, okay.
Oh, yes, the old stretch.
If anyone says they're not...
Oh, no.
Look at the look, too.
Yeah, he's very...
He's wearing a baby tee with like a black scarf just like kind of folded.
It said his idols were Liam Gallagher and Jet. ABT with like a black scarf, just like kind of folded.
It's not his idols for Liam Gallagher and Jet.
Yeah.
The entire band Jet.
Yeah.
My idol Jet.
I wanna be an entire group of people.
Yeah, I wanna be that iPod commercial band.
That's me.
So yeah, it's just wild.
Like again, they're like terrible case of strange stage fright.
He's like, again, they're like a terrible case of strange stage fright. He's like, Hey,
absolute paralysis.
He goes on to like perform or whatever.
But that just stuck out out to me because like, like you were saying,
I'm like, so many of these MAGA shit heads are like failed artists.
Yeah.
And this exact sort of art kind of reminds you of Ben Shapiro and Jeremy Boring
at the Daily. That's what I was thinking.
I was thinking of Shapiro.
Yeah, because they're both they were both film guys.
Shapiro was trying to write scripts and like had a represent like a rep
who got him like meetings and stuff.
But everyone's like, is this the guy who's writing those like weird
incel books where he calls Christine Aguilera like a whore?
Like, no, we're good on this guy.
You hear him talk about wicked and like he's like very incisive and like cutting and yeah
He like he has he's like the the critic and ratatouille
You know like he's just like he has hatred in his heart
Because he wasn't able to do the thing that he loves. Oh, oh, that's like the character is like yeah
The character therefore I'm a critic
Yeah, therefore is a critic and who is like mean to everybody
because he like, you know, hates food for some reason.
Right. Yeah.
But like it's funny too, because then the Daily Wire
had their whole streaming service,
like thing that they unleashed were like movies.
Remember they had like run, shoot, hide.
And like, there was like these other movies
they were putting out.
That thing completely failed.
And then they just blamed transgender people for that.
Yeah.
What like that's what Jeremy Boring said.
I don't understand.
Yeah.
In, in that post where he's blaming trans people for the failure of his cafe,
what did he think they were doing?
And what does Ben Shapiro think they're doing to stop his movie from being
it's popular with people?
I'm guessing it's the coordination.
People get organized and they boycott your fucking business
But that's also crazy because also these are the companies that do where they call it
AstroTurfing sure it's like they'll do like basically it's like a go fund me for their like conservative movie
But really it's just they take all that money and they buy tickets so that the tickets are sold
But then you go in the movie theater and there's like no one in there actually
watching the movie with the entire movement is Astro turf from billion.
Like not ask, right.
Right. Right. Right.
Billionaires like billionaires pay for it.
The only reason that we've heard of any of these fucking people is because of
the fucking Koch brothers at a certain point where like we need to create a
whole right wing media apparatus.
And I forgot about the Koch brothers.
That's how far deep we are now.
Brother, no.
Yeah, I mean, was it Steve Bannon also a failed?
No, he was successful.
He's produced Seinfeld.
His name's on Seinfeld episode.
He did, but he also, when he tried to write
his thing that was his vision.
Oh, it was the riots?
It was a rap musical about the LA riots.
That's awesome.
I didn't know that.
Amazing. Amazing.
Oh, God.
Because he, I think, what was it?
He got a stake in Castle Rock who was producing Seinfeld.
It was just purely business.
It was just a business.
He didn't have anything to do with it.
He has nothing creative to do.
But yeah, you just see.
No, he came up with the summer of George.
He's like actually in the writer's room.
He's like, my therapist has been telling me to just ignore my first instinct.
To try and save the planet.
Yeah.
This is like, yeah, but there was like another interview with an Australian
newspaper and the way this thing is written was just funny because apparently
he got hostile with the woman who was asking him about the closure
of the place.
He said in a statement to News.com.
You Mr.
DeCosta said Newton was infested with rats and hairy men.
What a shithole releasing a song about it in June so that you
can be offended by it.
Fucking snowflakes.
The lot of them he wrote before calling this author a bitch.
Wow.
Just an angry,
that is wild to like see, be able to watch the song.
Like he has a song in his heart and then you get to see it die as he like
fails an American Australian idol.
And then fucking cut, cut fucking cut to 15 years later and he's like,
you're all fucking rats.
Snowflakes.
Oh, really?
The guy who couldn't get his shit together in an audition?
Who wouldn't know a genius if it came up and bit your ass.
Snowflakes, the lot of yeah.
Yeah, all right.
I got to go, you bitch.
Is that how the phone ended?
I'm just curious how that conversation ended
where the author or the journalist is like, after calling this author.
I'm just thinking of him like later alone blasting that like.
Are you going to be my girl?
And he's just sobbing, just sobbing to death.
Today was gone, baby.
Die. Oh, shit. was gone baby. Oh shit.
Oh wow.
Wonderwall just looking in the mirror,
tears streaming down his face.
Then he'll do cold play so he can actually sing.
Tear stream down your face.
You hate to see it and you love to see it.
I think it's an important lesson.
Don't go.
Yeah, very important.
Stop magging around. Yeah, just move it's an important lesson. Don't go. Yeah, very important. Stop magging around.
Yeah.
Just move on to doing something else.
Don't, don't.
Just be a regular racist in your town and just fucking have to exist in varying
levels of shame, depending on where you live.
Yeah.
You know, good advice.
Be a regular racist.
Just be a regular racist.
You know, like an old school one who was just, who was scared of people of color.
I miss those days.
So they were like get away get away
Well, Alan Strickland Williams, what a pleasure having you back on the daily zeitgeist
Thanks for having me all find you follow you hear you all that good stuff
I'm at alastricklandwilliams.com you can order my album on vinyl there all the links to streaming are there as well
You buy digitally at totally Alan on X Twitter
Alan sugar ones on Instagram
Love to see out there guys. Thanks for having me. This is really fun Oh, man, always great having you working people. Is there work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah
I was gonna say physical media. I've been reading
Intermezzo by Sally Rooney. I'm a big Sally Rooney guy. I'm not done with it yet, but I'm about like just got halfway through it
Great read if you like Sally Rooney, or if you don't check out normal people
Beautiful worlds. Yeah nice good stuff. I have to check out some Sally Rooney
Miles where can people find you as their work media? You've been enjoying. Oh
man
Just everywhere at Miles of Gray, you can find me and
Jack on the basketball podcast.
Miles and Jack got mad boosties.
And then you can find me talking 90 day fiance on 420 day fiance.
Fucking June juniper.beer.
Blue sky posted.
So the GTA six trailer came out and naturally, like fucking Maggot people
don't even know what to fucking do anymore.
Like this is like one of the most popular video games ever.
And June, like just posted something.
It's like a tweet that just had like the characters, like that were revealing
the characters from the game.
And then the replies, just like these Maggot replies, one just said, if the game is anti-cop, I'm not playing.
Another one said, this story looks anti-cop.
It's like, have you played Grand Theft Auto?
Fuck, half, the most thing people do is attack the police
to try and get a five-star wanted level
and then try and avoid the police the whole time.
And that's where America went wrong.
Yeah, exactly.
GTA 3, that we can all,. Yeah, exactly. GTA 3.
It all goes back to GTA 3.
Again, I'm just always amazed that people say,
this looks anti-cop.
Yeah, it is.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore Brian,
and on Blue Sky at Jack Obi,
the number one on Blue Sky.
I was enjoying, B, Becca Lori retweeted, uh, excerpt from a New
Yorker profile of a build a Blasio or it's a New Yorker piece about like what,
why can't New York have normal good mayors.
And there's just this part where they like meet up with build a Blasio,
a former mayor and they like meet him. He's coming from
the gym going to his favorite little breakfast spot. And I just want to read this excerpt.
He held forth among his fellow patrons with a spirit of magnanimous, possibly unreciprocated
camaraderie, greeting a startled man by the door with a familiar, how you doing, brother?
Oh, no.
And ordering his breakfast, scrambled egg whites,
cheddar, ham, and tomato on multigrain toast as
me sandwich especial.
These days, de Blasio most often makes the news for
his love life or for such momentous moves as dying his salt and pepper crew cut.
But he sensed a bit of de Blasio nostalgia creeping into town.
Since I left office, the number one thing people come up to me on the street and talk
about is pre-K, he told me, lacing his iced espresso with a heavy pour of simple syrup.
The number two thing that people talk about is that onion headline.
He quoted it for me, savoring every word. Well, well, well, not so easy to find a mayor that doesn't suck shit.
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
What a paragraph. Holy shit.
Oh my God. I need to see that doorman.
Please tell me that doorman was black that he say,
hey, how you doing, brother?
How you doing, brother?
That's especially like trying to create common ground,
out of touch white guy thing to say to like a black guy.
Yeah, I got this New Yorker profile with me. Let me,
let me seem like a man of the people.
Tries to dap him up.
Tries to dap him up. Confused handshake.
Just like puts his pinky out.
Like the profile is around, is from the around city hall section.
It's from Eric Locke L A C H.
So, uh, we'll link off to that in the footnotes.
Uh, you can find us on Twitter and blue sky at daily zeitgeist.
We're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram.
You can go to the description of the episode wherever you're listening to it.
And you can find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information we talked about in today's
Episode we also link off to a song we think you might enjoy miles is there a song people might enjoy
me sandwich
Should get you some some merrily executed in the street. I'm sorry
That's for whatever that one. I can't shake from my brain. Uno mi sandwich especial por favor.
I'm sorry.
We don't that's not on the menu.
Sorry.
What did you want?
Who the fuck are you scrambled egg whites, cheddar, ham and tomato on a multigrain toast.
Basic.
Just say that.
Me sandwich especial.
Special.
Shut up.
De Blasio.
Also, why is it meat tortas?
But he can't say torta.
Like he's got.
Come on. That's too advanced. Diplasia Shut up Diplasia. Also, why is it me torta? But he can't say torta like he's got
That's to it man of the people. Yeah famous. It's not fancy
This is it's it's fitting that this song is going out on then like a Mexican artist. I feel like it's like the
What's what's her? What the fuck is homegirls name? Oh Rosalia like like from what like what Rosalia is to like Spanish music
This girl as Stevie is like this Mexican girl. She's bringing cumbia like in this like modern way. It's really dope
I really fuck with it
I think I'm just being an Angelina like you hear this music ambiently
But this like this younger version feels great. The track is called un error
UNE RROR an error which one error might be calling your fucking toast,
you know scrambled egg toast, mi sandwich especial, but this is a dope track from
S-T-V-E-S-T-E-V-I-E, un error. It's just again giving you that modern cumbia flavor. So shout out to Stevie and put this one into your earphones.
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