The Daily Zeitgeist - Taylor Swift = Night King? SHAPIRO PWNED BY THE RIGHT 5.13.19

Episode Date: May 13, 2019

In episode 390, Jack and Miles are joined by the Inside Conan podcast hosts Jessie Gaskell and Mike Sweeney to discuss the Natty Light college internship, Ben Shapiro's meltdown on BBC, the new conservative Daily Show, an analysis of Mike Huckabee's 'best jokes,'  Hollywood coming for Georgia's heartbeat bill, the story behind Taylor Swift's Reputation, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. Natural Light Summer Intern (PAID INTERNSHIP)2. WATCH: Summer Intern Recruitment Video3. WATCH: SHAPIRO STORMS OUT OF INTERVIEW4. Pro-Trump TV Channel OAN Has a Comedy Show So Terrible It Might Actually Be Funny5. WATCH: Mike Huckabee's Best Jokes of 20186. Georgia Governor Signs ‘Fetal Heartbeat’ Abortion Law7. Hollywood Takes Strong Stance Against Georgia’s Controversial Heartbeat Bill8. Georgia’s new abortion law spurs boycott by multiple film production companies9. If Hollywood Takes a Stand for Abortion Rights, the ‘Heartbeat Bill’ Could Cost Millions10. Hollywood of the south: Atlanta's film industry is building its own mini-city11. Netflix subscribers ask company to boycott Georgia over proposed 'heartbeat' abortion bill12. Blame Game Of Thrones for Taylor Swift's Reputation13. WATCH: Flying Lotus - More (feat. Anderson .Paak) [Official Audio] Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever

you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 82, Episode 1 of Your Daily Zeitgeist! A production of iHeart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness

and say officially off the top, fuck coke industries and fuck Fox News. It's Monday, May 13th, 2019. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack O'Brien. Won't you come? That's good enough. Wash away the red. Come on. Give that sound card some respect.

And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. That's right. It's Mr. Miles Bray, a.k.a. experimental Japanese artist, Miles Bray! That's right, it's Mr. Miles Bray, a.k.a. experimental Japanese artist Ya Boy Kusama, E.D. Amin, Dabney Coleman, Stoney Braxton, and Drohan Tacobell.

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Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third and fourth seat today by the hilarious writers on the TV show Conan O'Brien. That's not the name of the TV show. I am nailing this. And the hosts of the Inside Conan, an important Hollywood podcast. There we go. We're thrilled to be joined by Mike Sweeney

and Jesse Gaskell. Hello. What's up? Nailed the intro. I didn't prepare a song. That's okay. What's your favorite karaoke song? I have an instrumental.

Oh. Oh, you have an instrumental? No. I don't want to get sued. Karaoke song. I like doing You Oughta Know by Alanis Morissette. It really scares people. Dan, Dan the Engineer.

That's intense. Big two thumbs up for that. Just did a backflip in the booth. Jesse. Dan and I are going to go karaoke after this. You are great at karaoke. Oh, thanks. I had the pleasure of doing it with you karaoke You've only seen me do it at 4 in the morning You were great

When everyone is good 2am she's terrible 4am she opens like a flower Usually I'm asleep though So most people don't get to see it I couldn't even work the device I just kept trying to pick a song And all I did was cut off everyone else's song.

They were in the middle of singing. Oh, that move. Yeah. I was like, who canceled the song? Yeah. I think I was asked to leave the booth. Just wait outside in the car. The passive-aggressive karaoke DJ.

Yeah. That's how it came across. Not intentional. You guys both have great voices. Great podcast voices It's crazy that you're just now Bringing that to podcasting I love Jessie's voice

And I always think You remind me of the actress And vocally as well On You're the Worst The star Oh, I like her a lot Yeah Yeah, I don't know her name

That's okay No way to find out There's no way, guys No, no, there is But she's great I like her a lot. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know her name. That's okay. No way to find out. There's no way, guys. No, no, there is. Oh, what was it? But she's great. She's great.

Yeah. Is it like Mary? I don't know. Never mind. I shouldn't have brought it up. Is it bad to bring someone up? Aya Cash. Aya Cash.

Aya Cash. Yes, yes. Of course. Of course, Aya Cash. Well, guys, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about on today's episode. It's going to be a silly episode. Not too, too much heavy, heavy stuff.

Mix. Yeah, there's a little mixture. It's the world we have to talk about, so yeah, mixture. So up top, we're going to talk about Natty Light's search for a summer intern in the video they posted. We're going to talk about Ben Shapiro just owning yet another lib who actually wasn't a lib. We're going to talk about Trump. Yeah, basically. We're going to talk about Paul Joseph Watson's prediction that the right is getting better at comedy and it's making the left nervous and just kind of all of the ways that that prophecy is being fulfilled.

We're going to talk about Rudy Giuliani now lobbying Ukraine to help do dirt for Trump. We're going to talk about Georgia's heartbeat bill and how people in Hollywood are pushing back against that. We are going to talk about Boeing because they're bad at their job. And we're going to talk about Taylor Swift's stance on Game of Thrones. And we got a coffee update about bean grinding because we were foolish. We were ignorant. We didn't understand what the hand ground. But first, guys, we like to ask our guests,

what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you guys are? Oh. Oh. Yeah. I have been searching for tips on the care and feeding of sourdough starters. Okay. Oh. The care and feeding of sourdough starters. Okay. Oh.

The care and feeding of sourdough starters. Yes, because you have to feed them weekly. They're alive. Right. It's a yeast. What do they eat? They just eat water and flour. Okay.

But you have to feed them all the time to keep them going. And then they help you make bread and pancakes and other delicious things. Do you have a legacy starter you're taking care of? Yeah. Well, I've had the mother, the mother dough for about a year now, but I've been also giving it out to some friends. I'm trying to indoctrinate friends into the sourdough community. How old is that starter?

It's like about a year old. Okay. Because I know people who are like, I got a 70-year-old sourdough starter. And you're like, okay. I know. No. I mean, eventually it will be year old. Okay, because I know people who are like, I got a 70-year-old sourdough starting. I know. I mean, eventually it will be that old. Oklahoma was still a territory. But I've been really into it. Did you get it from Matt Shaw? I didn't,

but Matt and I started... He's an editor on our show. Yeah, we got into sourdough around the same time, and so we started sharing. But he's much better at making bread than I am. Bread is really hard to make. Because I didn't know this. I got one from him two months ago for my wife.

For her birthday. You bake me some bread. And she is a great cook, but she's never baked. And she did it earnestly and intensely for two weeks and then she said no I gave up I think it's like having a child and she's already yeah she's doesn't want to deal with that again it's bread is very mercurial and it's like you know the weather

can be off a little bit and then it affects the the bread and is that true yeah wow so it's really it's tough and there's and there's really hardcore online communities about bread. Oh, I bet. Like terrifying. Anything on Reddit would pale in comparison to the bread comment circle. Or bread it. Yeah. Even worse.

When you say the weather, are there regions in the United States where people brag that this is the place you should be to make sourdough? Probably. Yeah. Yeah. Probably like, I don't know. North Carolina seems perfect for some reason. Yeah.

So this is like a living organism that has been kept alive. Like, does it all go back to one like mitochondrial eve of sourdough starters from like 500 years ago? I don't know. Well, I think you create the yeast by fermenting it okay so i think you can kind of create it out of like out of nothing got it oh okay it becomes alive because it's bacteria got it but yeah it's weird it's just i also have a kombucha scoby so i have a lot of yeast based you have a lot of things growing yeah i have a lot of things growing

intentionally yeah for the most part. And you're trying to spread them to other people. Yes I'm trying to spread my yeast. Almost like the host of a bacteria or a parasite of some sort. I'm the patient zero. Yeah. Has anyone, have you gotten any blowback from people you tried to turn on to sourdough baking where they're

like ugh. Yeah most people hate it. Yes. Why did I take this from you? And it's like another thing I have to take care of. Like, I don't, you know. Right. You have a dog already. Yeah.

And lots of plants. Lots of plants. How about you, Mike? You got anything in your search history? Oh, I'm embarrassed. I Googled Aya Cash. And I couldn't remember her name. I'm obsessed with her.

Oh, man. You know what? I like to Google Earth people's properties. Oh, wow. Like people you know? No. Just if I read about someone moving somewhere or a crazy house that's for sale, like I want to, like they'll only show a picture of it from the front

and it's like, no. I want to know how many hectares it is. I want to see the perimeter. How do you track it down? Just address? Well, that's my, sometimes that's the challenge. Sometimes I'll see the photo and it'll say, oh, it's in Los Feliz. And then I'm like, okay.

I need more information. No, I'll go early and figure out the house from the top and relate it to the front photo. I do that with like Airbnbs sometimes. Yeah. Or if you don't know, like they tell you a general area, but I'm like, I want to see what this probably looks like from the top or something.

Right. And then I will do the same thing. I'm like, okay, well, the light is like from the top or something. Right. And then I will do the same thing. I'm like, okay, well, the light is coming from the east or something like that. And then begin looking at the mountains and then be like, okay, so it's on a corner in this area. Yeah, I have a lot of time. If you can see downtown from the window, then I kind of figure where it is. Exactly. And then you can kind of zero in.

So you're looking at a photo of the front. You're seeing downtown reflected in the window. And then you're just doing. Well, there's often other photos. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm happy to give you a tutorial. Yeah, I know. I'm kind of impressed.

Name a property, Jack. We'll find it in five minutes. Right, right. What is something you guys think is overrated? Well, I was on the way over. I was like, oh, I'm going to say dogs are overrated. Well, I was, on the way over, I was like, oh, I'm going to say dogs are overrated.

Oh, wow. And then I pull in here and you have two, two adorable, really sweet dogs. But they're the exception. Yeah. They,

they're great. And they're great together. Sweeney though, has a good reason to not love dogs. I, well, I was traumatized. I was a mailman.

That was my college job. Oh, really? And all that stuff about, I was like, oh, you know, dogs don't really hate mailmen. They hate mailmen. And they would do – They all do. They would hide – you know how screen doors have that bottom – sometimes they have a solid bottom panel?

Yeah. Like I'd be walking up a walk and they would hide below that panel. And literally I'd be three feet away and they would jump up oh my god just just awful did you ever get attacked oh yeah yeah and and all the other mailmen i'd fill in for for them on vacation and they come back from vacation and they here i got bit and they're like who bit you you know i'd be like oh it's a chilemese dog and they're like sign a complaint three Three complaints, you got to gas them. They were hardcore.

There's a guy who had metal. They throw gassing parties. They were unbelievable. But this dog that bit me, I was cutting through someone's yard. And this dog just came up and just took a chunk out of my hand. And I had to go to a police dog lineup because it was a black Labrador retriever. And two people on that street in Park Ridge, New Jersey

had black labs. And they're like, you've got to go and pick it. And it was the one with flesh hanging from his head. I think it's, but I did not file a complaint because I – I just like the idea of it being like a real – like when the cops actually pull him up and they've got the squad lights in their face so they can't see you. And they're like, which one is it, man? No, they can't see. They can't see.

Right, right, right. So – but I've been recovering slowly and now I enjoy dogs. Yeah. Jessie, how about you? I think that fetuses are overrated. Fetuses. And not just, I mean, okay, so I know we're going to talk more about Georgia's abortion bill, but it's not just the fact that we're like talking about restricting women's bodies, but also so much of anti-abortion activism is about like showing these photos of fetuses at six weeks and like, do you really want to kill this? And I look at those photos and I'm like, I don't have a feeling about that.

Yeah. Like that doesn't look like a baby to me. Right. That's a tadpole. Right. It's scary. Yeah, it's scary. It's like, I don't want that in me, actually.

That looks like something from Alien. Right. Is it still technically? Oh, no. It's beyond embryo, obviously want that in me, actually. That looks like something from Alien. Right. Is it still technically? Oh, no. It's beyond embryo, obviously, because you're talking about a fetus. But still, yes. But it looks like it could be any animal, I think, at that stage. Anyway.

Yeah. They have to fabricate that thing where the fetus's hand reaches up and like that. Right. But that's not true and never happens. And they add a tear, a Photoshop tear. Or sucks its thumb. Right. Exactly. And that's nature's fault. They should make fetuses cuter. They're like, do you never happens. Yeah, and they like add a tear to it. Or sucks its thumb. Right, exactly.

And that's nature's fault. They should make fetuses cuter. They're like, do you activate that evolutionary biology? Exactly, exactly. Yeah, they sort of made fetuses to be forgotten. Someone's dropping the ball. Yeah, even when the baby first comes out, it's fucking terrifying.

Ugly, right? Yeah, their heads are mess. There's a guest we have on who I won't name, but we have a text thread going Where we exchange photos From Instagram Where people are posting Videos of their babies

Way too fucking soon Yes And we're like Too soon This is not it I agree Because it takes about A couple months

For babies to look cute I mean occasionally There's a baby that looks cute Right away But mostly they're just like They're covered in Like white stuff Yeah

Yeasty stuff We had a child that came out covered in his own excrement. It was a great way to say hi. He's never lived it down. I love talking about it on a podcast. He's like, you should have seen you're covered in meconium. I didn't say which child. But so we're focus group testing the pro-life campaigns,

and we're saying that the images, like showing us images of this parasite that feeds on your insides and terrifying looking don't yeah that maybe that's not the the best tactic come up with something i would agree with that find cuter fetuses yes uh just photoshop them yeah yeah put a little bow tie and fedora. Have them winking like heaven. The anime treatment, just bigger eyes. Yeah, I mean that really is it, right? Disney takes their rules for drawing

a cute animal from actual physical characteristics of babies with the big eyes and the big head. The eyes have to be 60% of its face. Just like a normal human baby. Exactly, with impossible eyelashes and there you go. The eyes have to be 60% of its face. Yeah, exactly. Just like a normal human baby, right? Exactly, with impossible eyelashes. And there you go.

The anime route is the way to go. What is something you guys think is underrated? I think lizards as pets. Oh, no. Really? Oh, you're one of those people. Never got attacked by a lizard. I love lizards and amphibians and snakes.

You would like the candidate Beto O'Rourke. They have a lizard. Really? They don't have a dog and they have a lizard. But what about that Vanity Fair cover? No, that's not working. That wasn't his dog? Wait, really?

Was that not his dog? Oh, maybe they do also have a dog. That would be even better if it wasn't. I wish it was him with a lizard on him. Then I'd be like, hmm, this guy might have something. I'm not letting Beto into my life. I don't know any covered photos. Seriously, whenever I see him, I'm just like, oh, no.

You have a Beto block. I have a Beto blocker. Beto blockers. I am not dealing with it for quite a while. Taking Beto blockers. Maybe next summer, I'll really, if he's still around, I'll dive in. I don't know about that. What's your favorite lizard? Oh, wow. That's really good. Well, I'll really, if he's still around, I'll dive in. I don't know about that. What's your favorite lizard?

Oh, wow. That's a really good, well, I love- It's really just lit up. Yeah, you can tell he looked up, activated that part of his brain. Is this an eight-hour podcast? Because holy cow. Well, I love all the, here in LA, a lot of Western fence lizards. Well, I had lizards as a kid in New

Jersey and then to come out here and have them running around outside. Like squirrels out here. And my children think I'm like, what's wrong with you? I'm like, guys, it's another thing. Yes, yes. And you're like, run a dog. A puppy. That's right. I've instilled some great fears under them. But the thing with a lizard pet is, you know, if it's too rambunctious, you can put it in the fridge because it's cold-blooded, and that'll slow it down.

I find that helps with my dog, too, actually. Yes, of course. It chills him right out. The crisper. I mean, what's the longest you can keep a lizard in the fridge before it just becomes a lizard-sickle? I wonder if that – I assume that would shut them right down and make them as docile. And a great way to train them probably. Yeah.

You can actually do – Just point them towards the fridge. You can do the same thing with a bee. Oh, right. When I was in college, my friend caught a bee, put it in the freezer, and it like stuns it. And then he tied a little piece of floss around it and had a bee on like a leash for a day. Oh, my God. And that's probably not a good thing to do, but it was pretty cool.

It was a cool party trick. The floss stayed. The bee didn't get out of the... No. He tied a good bee knot. Yeah. He was able to do it. He's like tweezers or something.

I guess you just get the knot going, then you just slide it over and then tighten. I don't know how he did that. We had a bad insect trick in Boy Scout camp that I don't recommend. Uh-oh. Which is... I can't do it anymore because I don't have biceps. But if a mosquito is biting you on your bicep, you make a muscle and you're as tight as you can

and you can literally see it because they can't shut off the proboscis. I don't think they can shut off the spigot once blood's coming in. Oh, wow. And the idea is to make it explode. Wow. Have you ever made it explode?

It was getting really close and it was pushing, pushing, and It was getting really close And it was pushing Pushing And then At the last second It was like an action movie It pushed off And flew away

But it was so full That it was like It was It really was Fell asleep And I had the worst Like you know Bite that lasted

Six weeks Right Yeah Flooded it with blood It was the worst Worst mosquito scenario I should have tied a string around Yeah That's Come back here I'm not dealing with you Motherfucker because you flooded it with blood. It was the worst mosquito scenario. I should have tied a string around it. Yeah, that's a great one.

Come back here. I'm not dealing with you, motherfucker. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? I'm going to go with mayonnaise. Wow. That is a hot take. Because, okay, especially in LA,

we're all foodies here, and I think a lot of us think of mayonnaise as kind of a garbage, white trash food. Good. My blood type is Hellman's. Because mayonnaise is delicious. It also, by the way, is what is in aioli. So our fancy aioli spreads that we eat now.

That's just mayonnaise rebranded. But it's also, have you guys ever used mayonnaise to make a grilled cheese sandwich? Yes. That's the secret. It's incredible. I have not. You rub it on both sides of each bread slice and it makes it, I don't know, it's better than butter.

Yeah, when it crisps, it really gives it that color and little texture you need. Yeah, caramelizes kind of. You guys don't use extra virgin olive oil? I guess you are foodies. I agree with you about mayonnaise. I think it just makes everything more delicious. And it gets a bad rap because we think of it as being low class. What's the one, is it Miracle Whip?

What is that? Oh, yeah. Miracle Whip is so good. Oh, it is. Oh, no, you don't like it. No, no, I haven't had it, but it's not mayonnaise, right? It's mayonnaise mixed with salad dressing. Yeah. Oh, okay. That sounds... It's got a tang to it. So it's got

egg in it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm guessing, or vinegar. Yeah, it does. That sounds good. Yeah. You could also, if you want to be, you know, fancy, you could make your own mayonnaise by, you basically just whip up egg and butter, I think. You have a desire to make things

that I prefer to have made for me. Like bread. That is very true. I will go out of my way to make something myself, and it's like, it's 18 steps. And I'm like, but I made a Reese's peanut butter cup. And it's like, but it's not better. And I'm like, but I made a Reese's peanut butter cup. And it's like, but it's not better.

A mini one. Yeah. You built a factory. Reese's peanut butter cup was great. What is a myth? What's something people think is true, you know, to be false?

Hmm. I think mothers, that mothers are great. You know, we just came off of mother's day right and so that's why i i'd like to bring that up because there are people like oh you gotta love your mother you know she's the best and it's like if you agree we all agree they're terrible people in the world right right yeah and so some of them have not all mothers yeah and they they have babies

right so not all mothers are great. Oh, okay. That's all I'm saying. Oh, I'm not saying mothers... I'm just saying that idea that the myth is that mothers always need to be venerated. I don't know. Don't all moms get blamed for serial killers?

That's kind of always... Oh, really? The serial killer MO is like, oh, they all had a mom that they hated not their like evil fucking dad or something yeah that's the thing you know our parents can be shitty people right

there are as many shitty parents as there are shitty people exactly I do think I've heard that where it's like a serial killer and they're like his mother was just too doting and just loved him too much. Sure, his dad beat him. Right, right, right. He almost gave the mom the blame.

She was all like, what do you want for dinner, honey? I mean, you know, serial killer shit. So he had to murder 50 women to get back at her. Yeah, exactly, to deal with that. They're probably born that way. Right. There's also that. We'll give the mother a pass just on this one thing.

What about you? I'm just going to go with that the myth is that expensive things are better than cheap things. Okay. That's kind of broad. But to make it more specific, I'll say beauty products because I've started using mostly skin products from Trader Joe's. Okay. All right. And I honestly think they are-

Mayonnaise. Honestly, that would probably work incredibly. Mayonnaise, eye cream. And they're good? Yeah. It's like it all works just as well. I spent a while buying expensive products from Sephora. And there's no difference.

It's all this. You age no matter what. Right. And they're clearly, it seems like they're definitely playing on your vulnerability. And like there's no difference. It's all this. You age no matter what. Right. And they're clearly, it seems like they're definitely playing on your vulnerability in that area. So you. Yes, like fighting wrinkles. The more money, the better it'll work. Right.

It's like these have lizard stem cells. I want these. Not the regular moisturizer. I hope that they're not using lizards. They do use snail stuff, though. Oh, that's right. Snail slime in Korean skincare products. Really?

Because I bought those, yes. Yeah. But it's like, it's nothing. What do they call it? They don't call it snail slime. Well, they call it like with snail serum, maybe. Affluent. Snail serum, yeah.

Affluent. Snail serum. Yeah. Snail mucin. Mucin is a much prettier word. Not really, actually. It still sounds like mucus. Just do snail slime. You're not going to soften snail with anything after it.

It's just snail shit. Jessie makes her own snail. I do. You collect your own snail. I make sna She's very handsome. You collect your own snail. I raise organic snails. Right next to the Reese's Pieces. And the sourdough starter. All right, guys, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. What?

Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate. My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. A podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?

Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do. Like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of

the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because

of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game?

And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.

Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.

Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark clark versus angel reese on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast and we're back and speaking of college uh my college days at least, let's talk about Natural Light. Oh, boy. Because Natty Light is – Were you in a frat? I was not, but I drank too much. But I was in college. For as cheaply as possible.

Yeah. Or Milwaukee's best. Yeah, so they posted a job opening, and we have a quick clip from the video that they posted. It's very Gen Z. Just listen to this. It's shot sort of like that Dollar Shave Club video where it's like one guy, long shot, walking through and being like, Hi, I'm this guy. Imagine that without charisma or production value or a comedy writer.

Or color correcting. Or color correcting. Yeah. Here at Natty Light, we do things a little differently. While some people print their resumes on paper, we put ours on a comedy rating. Or color correcting. Or color correcting. Uh, yeah. Here at Natty Light, we do things a little differently. While some people print their resumes on paper, we put ours on a race car. That's why today, we're excited to announce the first ever national search for the Natty Light Summer Intern. Now, when typical brands look for interns, they look for stuff like a ton of work experience,

4.0 GPA, and amazing references. Maybe they want you to have made the Dean's List. Maybe you need to know how to use a protractor. But here at Natty, we believe greatness is more than just a piece of paper. I don't need a reference from your aunt just because she has a different last name than you. How do you even spell protractor? And who the f*** is Dean anyway?

I mean f***. Yeah. Yeah, man. Sick. You know, for the sick kids. How do you even spell protractor? Who the f*** is Dean anyway? I mean, f***. Yeah, man. You know, for the sick kids. More like Natty Lit. Yeah, Natty Tight. Natty Lit, guys. Yeah, the posting on Indeed. Is he wearing a backwards hat?

No, but he's wearing a really cool Natty Light graphic tee. Yeah. And the office looks like a parody of itself, where it's like beer box towers and just really cool young people figuring out how to get people to drink more Anheuser-Busch. Yeah. Right. But the way on Indeed, like the job posting board, the way it's even described is in such

like Gen Z talk, it says natural light, summer intern, paid internship, position description, attend various events as an ambassador of the brand. Okay. Create fire viral content across all natural light social channels. Keep the brand manager up to date on trending trends. Yeah, thank you. Guerrilla marketing. If you have to ask, you can't handle it.

Product research. Yes, it's what you think it is. Design some sick swag that gives consumers all the feels. Complete weekly vlog documenting the awesomeness on Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook. So, yeah. So cringy. When it says qualifications, that's also pretty cool. The desire to be part of the business and culture that is Natty

slash live the Natty brand lifestyle and be a Natty brand supporter. Attention to detail. Did I notice I missed attention to detail? I love after a while. Microsoft word proficient. But detail is misspelled. D-E-T-I-A-L. And then the next one says, did you notice I misspelled detail?

If you did, please apply. Be outgoing, but not annoying. There is a fine line. Oh, God. Be able to spell protractor. Call back to the video. Confidence is a must. Basic math and computer and meme making skills.

And also, just be cool. Just be cool. That's all we want. Yeah, just be chill. So, you know, good opportunity for Gen Z kids to make the fire content for Anheuser-Busch. But then how, I mean, is that internship actually gonna involve any of that stuff, or is it literally

just gonna be making photocopies? I have a feeling it's just a straight up social media internship where they're like, can you steal some shit off Reddit and make it about beer? Can you fuck Jerry some memes? Yeah, exactly. And then they're like, oh, this could have been more fire, Caleb. Could have been more fire, Caleb. Could have been more fire.

You're on a tightrope, my man. It sounds like it's geared towards 12-year-olds. Do you even have to be in college to apply for this? Yes, I hope so. I mean, yeah, I think so. I don't know. I mean, brand research or whatever. Oh, that's true.

Yeah, product testing. But then at that point, if you're 21, you're basically going into your senior year of college where a Natty Light internship might not be the best choice for you. Does Natty Light care about the quality of their product? Like it needs to be tested? I think they're all about race cars.

Yeah. I mean, I think they get it. They're like, look, you drink Natty because you're in college and it's the cheapest fucking thing you can get. Yeah, because it's basically water that gets you drunk. Jesse, what you have to understand is natty light is a lifestyle okay yeah please bro explain to her man it's a lifestyle what if your race car crashes because

someone put a resume on the window read it yeah uh well just imagine the sort of internalized they're like just be cool and they assume that that's an objective quality that you can just imagine the sort of internalized, they're like, just be cool. And they assume that that's an objective quality that you can just strive towards rather than your weird subjective opinion of what's cool. And does just be cool mean like, don't call out any misogynistic or problematic racist shit you might hear in the office. Just fucking say nothing. I think you're, that's it. And don't tweet about it. You're cool, right? Yeah.

I would be in the bathroom all day just looking in the mirror like, be cooler. Be cooler. Get back out there and be cool. Slapping yourself. You can do it. The meme wasn't cool, actually. We want to check in with Ben Shapiro. We always like to keep tabs on him.

We always like to keep tabs on him. And so he went on a BBC interview show with what turns out to be an actually an extremely conservative commentator who apparently Ben was not aware he was conservative because he like the guy was just kind of asking him questions about, you know, he tends to play devil's advocate in his interviews. And Ben Shapiro took great offense to the line of questioning. So we're going to listen to a couple of clips from that. It seems to me that simply going through and finding lone things that sound bad out of context and then hitting them with and then hitting people with them is a way for you to make a quick buck on BBC off the fact that I'm popular and no one has ever heard of you. There are not many bucks to be made on the BBC, unlike American broadcasting, Mr. Shapiro. Yeah.

That was because he was just basically reading back tweets and other excerpts of things he had said. Right. And he's like, you're just taking things out of context. It's like, no, I'm just asking you about shit you've said out loud. Right. I'm quoting. Yeah. Yeah. things out of context it's like no i'm i'm just asking you about shit you've said out loud right i'm quoting yeah um yeah and i i like the you know quick uh cash making scheme of going on a public public media publicly owned radio yeah what's next npr right pbs always trying to get

rich on that pbs money uh and then he things went bad uh from bad to worse from there uh we have more you haven't why the hell are you interviewing me it's an interesting book but my point is your book claims it would be nice if you would quote it from time to time your book is well actually i've done some several times and i'm about to do so again if you would let me just finish the question you've got friends you know what honestly its back on Judeo-Christian values. What are the values it's turning its back on? I'm not inclined to continue an interview with a person as badly motivated as you, as an interviewer. So I think we're done here. I appreciate your time.

All right. Well, thank you for your time and for showing that anger is not part of American political discourse. Also, he calls Andrew Neal, the presenter on there, a lefty. Right. Tries to presume that he's on the left. This person could not be more on the right when it comes to British politics. Strongly on the right. Yeah, and just, I guess the whole thing was because he was made to explain his dog whistling. Right.

He's like, you know, can you tell me what your coded language means? He's like, oh, you know, this is, this is in bad faith. Cause you, what, you want me to say that I'm a racist? Right. Cause that's what you're trying to do. And he's simply just saying, hi, I'm asking you to clarify things you've said. I'm not taking anything out of context. Right.

If anything, I'm asking for the context. And then he has a meltdown, which shows like, you know, when pressed, the dog whistling reveals their game that they're like, well, the end game is me saying I don't like people of color. Immigrants should be out of the country. Okay. Right. Right.

And then that's why Fox News doesn't make me say it. Right. Exactly. Nor do the YouTube debates where he just owns like some college kid who's taking a history class. Right right and there's just non-stop uh there's so many highlight reels of this guy supposedly owning people and he can't like deal with a explaining his own comments yeah i wonder if ben was actually in great britain for that interview or whether it was done it It was done remotely. Because sometimes Americans,

when they do media in other countries, they just fly off. They are off their game. Well, I do think he was probably intimidated by the accent. It's like, this guy sounds smart and I don't like it. He's trying to trick me. He might have more than one degree. Yeah, and I think maybe just,

it could have been that he, because Andrew Neal, he might have known he's a conservative, thought, oh, this will just be a softball thing. And he'll just agree with us that immigrants are bad. And then, and he also pressed him about abortion because that's something Andrew Neal was like,

what are you, like, he really pressed him on about these like six week abortion bans. And I think that also shocked him because he was like, well, what do you mean? Because life begins there and that's what's scientifically accepted. Now I'd like to move on. He's like, no.

Wait, no. It's not science. Right. So, yeah, it did not go very well for Ben. So we hope he'll find another, you know. Yeah, thoughts and prayers for Ben.

Yeah. I think that means his book sales will go up. Yeah. Just hit people with facts and logic. He did have a tweet after this. Just pre-taped an interview with BBC's AF Neal. As I'm not familiar with him or his work, I misinterpreted his antagonism as political leftism.

And that was apparently inaccurate. For that, I apologize. So he knew this was coming out. Knew he fucked up. Political antagonism for leftism. Yeah, political antagonism for leftism. Yeah, but I mean, it is interesting because I do think there's still a wing of conservatism that is, I don't know, at least like trying to have a little bit more articulate discourse. And then there's the Ben Shapiro like talking head version of it that it's all just platitudes and's there's not actually diving into anything and there's no give and take yes yeah well yeah because the second you

dive in you realize how like intellectually bankrupt the whole argument is yeah let's don't open the door right it'll all come down he should have googled him i mean i know you two are arch conservatives so you guys write on a comedy show. Oh, yeah. Prove it. It's a great comedy show. And we wanted to play a clip from another comedy show and just get your thoughts.

It is the Mike Huckabee comedy show. Oh, God. I submitted to that and I didn't get it. Well, we know the head writer, Chip Hinkleman. So if you're listening, Chip. Big fan of his work. It's good to have you because we always like to see, you know, there's always these attempts from conservative media to have their version of a daily show or a late night show where they're like, wait till we hit them with our skating monologue. This is our SNL.

So the Wright released their own daily show in the past couple of months. And it's actually impossible to watch and comment on or at least we tried and it's so i don't know it was just it's so unrecognizable as comedy that we couldn't do anything other than just be like gosh it was like saying so sad problematic shit with like in the tempo of a joke. Right. And I don't know about Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Right. But I think she's a socialist. Right.

And then can't laugh. I was going to ask if they tape in front of a live audience. Oh, no. Well, Huckabee does. So he's on TBN, Trinity Broadcasting Network. Oh, Huckabee. The name of the father, the son, and the tremendous profits. And the capitalism.

Yeah. Yeah. So his show is on Saturdays. And it's like a weekly roundup show where they talk about the show as like having inspiring stories, a bit of fun and politics and values kind of thing. And it's basically your typical show that has a monologue, some desk stuff, a guest, and then like some standup who's like 900 years old who's talking about doilies, which isn't a joke.

Because we have the honor of having the writers of Conan here, we would love your input on these monologue jokes. Just in general, what you think. Maybe we can punch them up or something. Sure. I was in one of the most beautiful, clean, and hospitable cities in the world.

You knew I hadn't spent the past week in Washington, D.C. All six of my grandchildren have been at my house during their spring break they range in age from one to six i've come to realize they're all russians they meddle in everything not just elections you should have said the metal part they're meddling and then say the Russians. Right.

Yeah, yeah. Other than that, I thought it was flawless. Well, it's funny because the live audience doesn't know where to laugh, so they're laughing at the fact that he has grandkids. All six of my grandkids. One through six. Right. Okay, I'll see. One through six. Right. Yeah.

Okay, I'll see. That was a good note. So that was- Meddling before the Russian. Right. The Russians is the punchline, yeah. Right. I'm going to reach out to them and see if I can help.

Okay, here's another one. That was best of Mike Huckabee. Yeah, right now we're looking at a clip that his show put out on the internet called- Yes, this is their Emmy submission. Mike Huckabee's Best Jokes of 2018. Oh, right. Okay, so let's hear another one. Okay.

Well, maybe my grandkids aren't actually perfect, but they're just closer to it than yours. Okay. Most economists amuse me. They really do. They're like Baptists. About whom we say, where there are two or more gathered, there are at least seven different opinions. That's more of an inside Christianity joke. I was going to say.

I'm not around a lot of Baptists, I realize. Otherwise, I'd be on the floor. That might be a Baptist. Their opinion at Baptist are opinionated? Is that? Right, yeah. I mean, yeah, because there's so many, I think, sects of Christianity, and then baptism is its own vibe.

And he's comparing that to economists, right? Yeah, because economists are like Baptists in that they're very opinionated. Yeah, that like even if you get two of them, they're going to have seven opinions on the economy or the Fed or infrastructure. That's a niche audience. Yeah, that's very niche. Right. We'll do esoteric.

Okay, how about this one? Oh, and North Korea says they might want to participate in the Olympics, but then again, everyone in North Korea who can run fast or who can jump has already run past the checkpoints and jumped the borders to get out of that starving mess.

I would say edit. Yeah, it's too many words. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He doesn't need to over-explain everything. Oh, so can we rewrite that one for him? Yeah, you would just have to say everyone in North Korea who can run fast or jump has already left the country. Yeah, you don't need to say has already run past the border.

And jumped over the guard gate. Made a quick right and then did a tactical maneuver. Pole vaulted over the security. See, Chip, I hope you're hearing. I hope you're listening to this because these are good tips. But then they'll need more jokes to fill the space. Well, they'll just do more applause and laughter. More grandkid stuff.

It also isn't North Korea now one of Trump's allies. So I thought, why is he taking aim at North Korea? Well, this was in 2018. So, you know, things have changed. I guess this was a pre-Singapore summit. Yeah, before they did nothing. Before they pretended like they had some kind of agreement over nothing. I'm pretty sure that's like a joke, like a street joke.

That's a joke that I think has been made about Mexican people actually. Right. Yeah, yeah. So he rewrote that and added words. He was like, this joke could be wordier and about North Korea. I got this joke from a racist Snapple cat. Yes. How are the ratings for that show?

Oh. And does that matter? It's going to be depressing if we find out. I mean, all the saved people are watching, I'll tell you that. Right, right. And he's also had his daughter on where it was a very painful thing. It was like, doesn't it suck? Basically, it was like the vibe of the interview. And she's like, I know, Dad.

I love you. And it's like, and that was my daughter, guys. Moving on. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. I think most of his jokes are the kind of thing that you would see, like, written on a piece of driftwood in, like, a woman's kitchen or a bumper sticker that, like, my grandchildren are more perfect than your grandchildren. Right.

What do you think is the problem? Like, if there was advice for conservatives on how to be funny, do you think it's their politics that actually prohibit them from having the empathy to create good jokes? Well, because the problem, I mean, a lot of comedy is punching up, right? That's the whole, that's what makes good comedy. Yeah. Yeah. That conservative daily show, he's like a, know well dressed you know conservative middle aged guy and he's making fun of

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and he just says her name in a like funny accent so it's so it's like that's just a yeah it's like punching down type thing just like culturally you're being racist and racism isn't funny well yeah I guess

because maybe their humor is just about the culture war and it's just like all we have to do is say liberals suck and that's like the North Star of all that humor or something. Right, right. Yeah. I mean, there's laziness on every side. Yeah, for sure. Definitely words you can say that get a big reaction from a crowd.

But yeah, I've wondered that. Because they've tried the conservative daily show a few times over the years. And it always just crashes and burns and limps away. So I guess if they get Adam Carolla and Nick DiPaolo to run a room, maybe then they'll have a show. Who's the host of this new? I don't even know. Is he a comedian? I had never heard of him before. No. He didn't seem like this new, I don't even know. Is he a comedian? He didn't seem like a comedian, right?

No, no. He's just some talking head guy. And maybe he is a comedian, but not the kind of comedian people in comedy would have heard about. He's like the funniest guy at the wherever. Choose your place. Right. At the rally. Well, Mike Huckabee has a

new fan in me. keep those North Korea jokes coming I feel like every one of his jokes should end with maybe there's something there it feels like it's always like something all right we'll workshop this yeah yeah he seemed to say okay he used the okay transition at least twice in those clips. So I think that's his transitional line. He's like, okay, well, what about this new thing I'm going to say? Right, right. Yeah, because I mean there is stuff to make fun of on the liberal side. Oh, yeah, sure.

And I think liberals make fun of ourselves too for being, I think, I don't know. Like I think that you could poke fun at the sort of elitism or like hypocrisy is a good thing. Selective outrage over certain things that we don't see exercised across all, you know, outrageable moments. But so maybe if conservatives did that within themselves, that would work better. Right. But they're not going to do that. Then they're making just lib humor.

Right. Yeah, yeah. That is a really good point. I guess it's self-awareness. And that is, that's a really good point, because people who make fun of themselves, you know what I mean? Yeah. It's like, oh.

Self-deprecating. Like, Conan does a lot of Irish jokes, because he's Irish, and it's totally cool. And I find them very offensive. Jackal Brian. Yeah, we should know that you are not related to Conan I'm not related to Conan you're not nor our head writer

Matt Matt O'Brien who's also not related to Conan right nor my head writer back at when I ran Cracked Dan O'Brien

oh yeah so yeah just all all the O'Briens unrelated to one another O'Briens it's basically there was just one last name

in Ireland right yeah or you're you are all maybe probably are related but maybe way back yeah unrelated to one another. There was just one last name in Ireland. Right. Or you all maybe probably are related. Maybe way back. Yeah. I've never met another Sweeney. Is that true?

That's it. You're the only one, I think. Sadly very common. Yeah, but I do think there needs to be at least a baseline where it's like, oh, this person can have a sense of humor about themselves. Yes. They can talk to, like... so it feels like that it's sort of you know like oh i'm an equal opportunity right right exactly ribbert yeah exactly yeah

because i don't think we're gonna hear mike huckabee make jokes about his like bass playing he's like oh i barely yeah or their dog abuse or those kids his grandkids getting drunk at his house during spring break. Right. The six-year-old. Right. Did he say his grandkids spent spring break at his house? But they were young.

He was like, they were ages one through six, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think spring break is like an elementary school thing, too. Oh, is it? I think so. Yeah, but I only know it from like high school and college. But I think there's like a spring break in public schools now.

Okay. Getting younger and younger. I just remember because I went to Lutheran school, there was always the few days before Easter where you'd get off, and that was about it. Yeah, that was it, right? Lutheran school? Yeah.

Where? In North Hollywood. Oh, wow. Oh, you're local. With my classmates, Mary Kate and Ashley Olsen. Really? They were a great below me. What are Lutherans known for?

What's the joke on Lutherans? I don't know. Ask Garrison Keillor. That's right. They're sturdy people? I don't know. I mean. They love NPR.

Yeah, they liked NPR and they didn't like that I threw up the West Side gang sign in a class photo. I was reprimanded quite severely. How did they know what that was? My teacher just assumed I was throwing up gang signs as one of the few children of color in that class. They're like, that's a gang sign. I'm like, man, this West Side Connection album just came out, so why don't you bow down,

Mrs. Hecox? Why can't you be more like the Olsen twins who are never here at school because they're shooting a show. Right. Because they're billionaires, right? I have a theory that child actors, well, I don't know what comes first in this case, but child actors, when they grow up, tend to be tiny. Yeah.

Is it because their growth is stunted from all the work? Exactly. Or are they chosen for these jobs well often because they're older than what they yeah they're older than what they're playing and so they have a 13 year old who's playing seven i prefer to believe they're stunted by all right exactly all the onset coffee yes right and the methamphetamine pills right right that is interesting, though. Maybe it's their parents being short of stature causes them to want to put their children out in front of the rich. And what about before that? Right, exactly.

Most actors are small, though, too. That's true. I mean, in general, they're always... And rock stars. But I always assumed for actors, it was because they... Like, it's the one place where they can appear larger than life is like on the screen. Like you can stand on an Apple box and like nobody's going to know the difference. So there's like something like extra attractive to the actor, like a shorter person.

I can be 5'10 in this movie rather than 5'7. And men can wear high heels. 5'10 in this movie rather than 5'7. Right. And men can wear high heels. Right. Yeah. I mean,

like Tom Cruise played Jack Reacher, a character from the book who is specifically described as like towering and being like cute. Oh, really? Yeah.

He was like, that's me. Right. That's a movie I belong in. That sounds exhausting. Is he like the producer on it? Did he make that thing happen? Well,

he's the producer on every movie. Yeah, but I'm wondering if he like read this and he's like, yeah, towering. Finally, a guy who's acknowledging the source material as being a towering figure. But it was such a bad fit. I just know this

because that's one of my dad's favorite paperback series. He was like, this blew it. It needed to be Liam Neeson. Was your dad outraged? He was outraged. It wasn't like the books. Tom Cruise! He's like, you and your Hollywood weirdos are ruining the Jack Reacher series. Hollywood's ruined another book.

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I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically Black. I love her.

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Right. Good timing. But he also looked into ways that Hollywood is kind of pushing back on policies like this. And it's actually fairly effective because a lot of movies, more movies than I realized and more TV shows than I realized, are made in Georgia at Pinewood Studios. and I realized are made in Georgia at Pinewood Studios. There's actually an entire town that was built up around this studio in Georgia. Pinewood Atlanta Studios in Fayetteville, Georgia, where there's so much work happening there that they had to build a town across the street. Wow. But yeah, big budget movies are such an integral part of Georgia that companies like Disney can throw their weight around politically Wow. religious liberty bill that they were planning on. So that's just something that people are kind of looking to Hollywood now

that they've passed this or are in the process of passing this heartbeat bill to say, like, is Netflix, who shoot Stranger Things there, is Netflix going to step in and, you know, have something to say about this? So I don't know. I think, well, I mean, a lot of people are boycotting right like i know there's alissa milano is signed on to a boycott and i think people like david simon who does the wire was like i won't shoot there anymore right so it'll be interesting if that sadly like what we've found over and over again when we see these issues pop up is money is the only thing that

moves people yeah it's not even the appeal that like, Oh, are women becoming state owned property where they actually have no agency and they've become chattel or is it, Oh, well we want a stranger thing season four to shoot here. So we'll fuck that up. You know, it's a,

it's a very interesting indictment on the state of things at the moment. Yeah, but it is, I mean, at least if we figure out that that's how we can have our, you know, actually effect change. Yeah. I mean, short of voting,

which I think Georgia has had some issues with too. Yes. Well, especially when you consider how Brian Kemp got into the governorship with all the fuckery going on with voter suppression. I know, that was such a close race.

Right. And you're like, oh, wow. And then we ushered in this terrible age of politics. And, you know, a lot of the people who did vote for the bill, you know, they're in the crosshairs of a lot of voters already because I think it only passed by two votes very narrowly. So those people who contributed their vote to get this heartbeat bill passed are definitely like they're looking at some challenges for the next election. That will really be interesting to follow when they're up for re-election. Because so many politicians can not even come out with an opinion on abortion

because of Roe v. Wade, and they hide behind it. And so hopefully the voters will really keep track of the voters. I mean, the legislature in Georgia and the local voters will do something about it. Yeah, and I think just these bills, it's really important. As we said even last week, the whole point of these is to make them so insidious that the lawsuits eventually end up in the Supreme Court, so then they can just overturn Roe v. Wade. I mean, this is essentially a ban.

I don't know if you guys talked about this already, but six weeks is like, I can't even if you guys talked about this already but six weeks is like I can't even you know as a woman and it's hard to explain but this it's the chances that you would even know you were pregnant after six weeks are so minuscule and then to have to schedule appointments with like multiple doctors it's also I can't believe that it you know if we talk about abortion as like this heavy decision that needs to get made that people should really be weighing carefully because I think that's that's how it should be talked about is like oh this is you know this is life-altering and it's going to be sad either way if you know depending on what your circumstances are but to have to force that decision to happen within like that two weeks is you're you're just encouraging people to now make rash decisions almost.

Right. No, it's an irrational cutoff. I mean, you know, a baby isn't viable until 24 weeks. So wait, six weeks seems very arbitrary. And it's clearly a ban. Well, then, and also when you look at the Georgia bill, right, where people who seek abortions out of state can be put in jail or people who even aid someone. Yeah.

If you seek an abortion out of state, you will go to jail if they figure it out. Or even if you help them, they would say you're an accessory to murder. But what about – I don't think a state can pass that law for – Well, that's why it's going to make its way to courts and then they're going to be like, okay, fine, we'll get rid of this, but what about this very minuscule thing we're talking about, about six weeks or whatever? Those are the things that they're going to really hammer home.

And why is it not an accessory to the crime if you supplied the sperm that made the... Sure. I don't know why that doesn't make you somehow an accessory. Well, because, I mean, what would they do, right? If women who are leaving the state, they're going to have pregnancy tests at the state line to say like, wait, are you pregnant and leaving the state?

Like, I mean, even when you think of how this plays out. Well, I'm cool with that. Well, and ultimately. I've always said there should be pregnancy tests at the state line. I'm always curious about that. Or just a feel test. Just a weird. I can tell by feeling.

Yeah. Right. My dog can tell. Pull over. My dog can tell. Pull over. My dog can tell. But ultimately, it's only going to affect poor people, too, because rich people are always going to find a way around it. Right.

There's always doctor access for the people that can pay for it. Yeah. And so this is just going to affect poor people who, it's like, you want to take someone who already doesn't have the resources and then saddle them with a baby? What? It doesn't make any sense. I just, you know, even if I don't think that it's obviously not

something that's ideal. It's not something we should be using as birth control. But just the fact that you would say, I don't trust you to make this decision on your own and therefore your punishment is a baby. You have a human being to raise now right right to which the pro life you'll be like well then just give it up for adoption yeah right but there's so there's like the the window of the babies that are desirable for adoption is very small right and i don't think

you know like a lot of the people we're talking about, their babies might not be adopted. And then now we have more kids in the foster system. It's insane to me that this has been dragging on for so long. I'm probably very naive about it, but I feel I don't see how ultimately abortion can be made illegal. Just it's like trying to put toothpaste back in the tube i mean it's something right it's it's happened forever it's so wide since the beginning and yes and i understand like 600 years ago there were grave risks maybe physical risks that made it seem you just had to use witchcraft right exactly right but now that it's it's widely available i it to me it's like oh okay we're gonna outlaw air conditioning right you know what i mean it's widely available, to me it's like, oh, okay, we're going to outlaw air conditioning. Right. You know what I mean?

It's like, no, no, that's not going to happen. People are going to find a way around it. Yeah. Right. So that I kind of always feel like when no matter what happens, that common sense will prevail. Right. We'll see. I mean, we've got two anti-abortion Catholics,

new justices on the Supreme Court, in Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, and you're like, ugh. It's just very tough to think about. But then Roberts has kind of been going. He's tacked center on a couple things, but have those been abortion rights? I don't know. I can't think of one of the last.

I mean, I think it's been, yeah, I mean, there's a shot that Roberts could help out. Anyway, we should start, the way that with gun control legislation, women should start stockpiling abortions right now. Just get as many as you can while you

still can. Yeah, there you go. No, I'm not actually epic. And the way it's being covered on right-wing media is like Hollywood's opposition to this bill is as part of the culture war. Oh, yeah, totally. So Daily Wire headline, take that, Hollywood. Georgia Governor Kemp's popularity surges as fetal heartbeat bill progress. Georgia Governor Kemp's popularity surges as fetal heartbeat bill progress.

Carly Hoylman, Georgia heartbeat bill passage sends powerful message to Hollywood, Washington. And in Breitbart, Hollywood erupts after Georgia heartbeat bill passes. Fuck this. The last one was a Huckabee joke. Yes, exactly. It's like, yeah, wow, we're creeping towards more authoritarian shit now. We're like, oh, yeah, fully just strip a woman's right to do whatever. Right.

And the state decides. Yeah. And it becomes a thing where you have to just – it's like you go along with it because your team is – Yeah. Falls on one side of that issue. And if the other side is for it, then we have to be – it's like there's not even – you're not even allowed to have deviation on any issue. Yeah. Even it's like when people are trying to be humane. They're like no no yeah i'm not i'm not on that i'm not on that team right now so right fuck being humane yeah at all george clooney is for it then i'm against you

whatever it is i don't care well give me my casamigos see what the supreme court does you know sometimes they surprise you like you know earl war Warren was supposedly going to be conservative, and then he ended up overseeing this super liberal court. Same with Kennedy. Yeah, it's scary, but I think when they're confronted with these things, sometimes they do the right thing. Yeah, it sucks that we have three that are just complete write-offs at this point though.

Yeah. Where, you know, it's like, there's no way they're just going to fall in line. Right. Yeah. And one of those guys might retire soon.

Thomas. Yeah. Yeah. And then we've got, yeah. Yeah. Was he one of the. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so then like maybe someone worse. Most likely. Yeah. Right. based on what we've seen. Actually, we're pro-Clarence Thomas.

We're liberal on everything else, but we really like... I just like to mix it up with you two. We just think Anita Hill was trying to take a good man down. Hey, man, Clancy was fucking thrown under the bus, man. And finally, we just want to check in with Taylor Swift. All right. We've all been, I think, as your show frequently discusses, we've all been wondering, what is the album Reputation really about?

Yeah. Right? Her most recent album. Sure. And especially, like, Look What You Made Me Do is such a great song. Everyone's like, what's with this new dark Taylor? Right. And we have an answer now.

Okay. And it is, I don't know if it makes me sad or happy, song everyone's like what's this new dark taylor right and we have we have an answer now okay and it is i don't know if it makes me sad or happy but apparently this is a quote from her recent interview where they were asking about you know like let's talk about your career influences she says so much of my imagination was spent on game of thrones at the time i was making reputation and i didn't talk about it in interviews so i didn't reveal that a lot of the songs were influenced by the show so it's just fan fiction. Yeah, she said Swift adds

that Reputation ended up turning into a split album with one side featuring weaponized songs about vengeance and the other exploring love and looking into, quote, a find something sacred throughout all the battle cries. And then she added, look what you made me do is literally Arya Stark's kill list. King of My Heart was influenced by

Khal Drogo and Daenerys. It's even got this post hook of drums and I wanted them to sound like Dothraki drums. So we were listening to a Game of Thrones concept album the whole time.

I mean, not that I was listening to it, but that's, I guess what was going on. Well, in the way this season of Game of Thrones is going, I wouldn't be surprised

if one of those songs ends up in the show. She might have a cameo. Right. This is shocking. I thought she was influenced by ballers. I did not see this coming. Thematically more of a fit.

I'm glad she drew her inspiration from somewhere that we can all relate to. It sounds like she just needs more people. She needs a water cooler to talk about things around. Right. Rather than the whole time. Yeah, she doesn't have an office she goes into

where she gets to do this off her chest. She wouldn't have a single album then. Yeah. Most people have friends to talk about games with, but she's too busy going in and out of her apartment. Her entourage. In a trunk. Yeah.

Oh, right. Hidden from everyone. Yeah. I thought, wasn't this supposed to be like someone, I don't know, people I follow on Twitter were like, this is where she's going to come out as Vi or something. Yeah, that was the big rumor. Because the countdown clock was like,

it's because she's out of her contract. There were so many very interesting theories about what was happening. And what it ended up being. Must be when Twitter was going off. And it ended up being that the album was about Game of Thrones? No, no, it's that single that came out. Oh. Yeah, but the countdown, they were like,

oh, she's going to announce that she's bi. And she instead dropped the poppiest single in her entire career. Yeah, like a stock photo of a pop song. Yes. That's how generic that thing is. Well, guys, it's been so fun having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people listen to you? On The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people listen to you? On The Daily Zeitgeist.

Yes. Right now. And on Inside Conan. Inside Conan. An important Hollywood podcast. It's on Apple. It's once a week. It's once a week.

It's very funny. We also write for The Conan Show on TBS. Oh, right. There's a television show. Yeah. Weeknights at 11. Uh-huh. And where else?

Come by our homes. Oh, yeah. We'll be happy to chat with you. Look up Sweeney's Home on Google Maps. On Google Earth. You can see me. I'm a correspondent also on the Mike Huckabee show now. Next week.

Finally. He's sending me to North Korea. So I'm excited about that. He's like, we want to do that. We saw Conan in Korea, and I thought this would be good. Huckabee in North Korea. So I'm excited about that. He's like, we want to do that. We saw Conan in Korea, and I thought this would be good. Huckabee in North Korea. That's right. I'm all for that.

Yeah. We were at the DMZ. We were. That was exciting. That's really cool. That was not the time to bring that up. I crossed 10 steps into North Korea and was like, okay, that was good. Were you allowed to?

Yeah. Oh, so it wasn't when you guys were in that office? No, that is. But half of it is in North and half of it is in South. So you can go to the North side of the room and technically be in North Korea, but you're indoors also. Right. Jack's fuming because he was trying to end the show.

Oh, yeah, no. No, no. He's just jealous that you guys were a part of that. Yes. Very. Where can, are you guys on social media? Yeah, I'm on Twitter at jessiestwatts. Jesse's twat.

Tens of tweets. I'm not on Twitter. And I took the app off my phone. It's very upsetting. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's unreachable. Oh, Dan is saluting me.

Thank you, Dan. And I hope Twitter goes under the way Vine went under. But so far, dreams are not coming true. It might. I mean, it's not growing. That's for sure. Is there a tweet that you've enjoyed? Pointing to Jesse.

That's not Mike. Yeah. I mean, I enjoy lots. Oh, my tweet for this week was going to be Chrissy Teigen, who I always enjoy her tweets. But she responded to a meme of Steve Harvey that said, it was basically like shaming poor people. And it said, rich people don't sleep eight hours a day. Right.

And then she responded and said, damn right, I sleep 12. I know that's a tired ass myth. Take that Harvey. I think that whole tweet inspired this whole thing that people were coming out they're pulling out studies showing that like

actually the people who sleep the least are people who are actually in low income brackets because they have to work so much. Thanks Steve Harvey about this myth like no we're grinding all day.

And get the worst sleep because of like cortisol and stuff yeah yeah i mean trump doesn't sleep but that's because he's tweeting yeah no and mentally and tweaking yes yeah uh miles where can people find you can find me and follow me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray i like two tweets from reductress uh the first one is woman will pay just about anything for beverages containing trace amounts of weed very true

the CBD boom is huge and another one it says wow when they got her order wrong this woman said everything's perfect thanks

yeah that's me too also yeah me too and then everyone then I say it when people then the waiter leaves and I go

man they got the fucking cheese on it why don't you say something I'm like let's eat around it. I don't know if that's from my mom telling me to always just stop complaining. I don't know where that came from. My inability to tell the waiter or server that my order is wrong. The person whose job it is to serve you.

You're like, no, thank you so much. And that's why I'm a serial killer. I wish I could blame it on my parents, but they're both very confident people. I think I'm just like a coward. Cut to your childhood, they're like screaming at restaurants, and you're just like, oh, maybe it went the other way, where you were embarrassed because they would flip tables at hometown buffet and embarrass the whole family.

No, assertive parents can really be intimidated, and you go, I'm not gonna be like that. Yeah. No, they're just well adjusted. I have no one to blame but myself. He's constantly eating foods that give him, like, trigger his allergic reactions. He's like, oh, this has shrimp in it. It's okay. I got an EpiPen.

A tweet I enjoyed was from Jelani Cobb from The New Yorker tweeted, I'm thinking of starting a photo bureau that specializes in unflattering pictures of people and calling it petty images. And I thought that was a funny tweet from Jelani Cobb, a New Yorker writer. Sounds like a New Yorker cartoon. Yeah, it does. Yusef Roach tweeted, people are always like,

you're so brave for being so open about your mental illness. And I always want to be like, oh, that's actually just the mental illness. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find me on Twitter, Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page

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