The Daily Zeitgeist - Taylor's Trendmerican Pie Saturdays 04.22.24

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

In this edition of Taylor's Trendmerican Pie Saturdays, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Mike "Jesus Jerkoff Eyes" Johnson finally getting the Ukraine aid package passed in the House,  the New Yorker's recent article on misinformation and belief, Joe Biden doubling down on his false claim that his uncle was eaten by cannibals, a Trumpdictment update (featuring sleeping and possibly farting), Netflix using AI to poorly alter photos in "What Jennifer Did", a brief rap beef check-in, Taylor Swift's new album and much more! 1.The Fake Fake-News Problem and the Truth About Misinformation | The New YorkerSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark

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you've been holding your breath since the last time We recorded Thank god I was turning fucking blue Oh my god dude You're right you're right It is hard to hold your breath the whole weekend Oh shit Nah man the fucking hiccups

I'm trying to stretch my diaphragm out I get them every now and then But you know I'm just I'm dealing with it How do you stretch my diaphragm out i get them every now and then but you know i'm just i'm dealing with it how do you stretch your diaphragm how well i was with my friend who's a nurse i got to stretch my diaphragm and she kind of just put her hands over her head and just kind of take a deep breath okay yeah okay it's open yeah because look they're diaphragm fragmal spasms or whatever diaphragm sprasms you Fragmal sprags. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying.

So I had a good weekend. Um, so cool. So I'm Jack. That is Miles. These, uh, this is the episode where we tell you some of the things that trended over the weekend. Some of the things that are trending on this Monday morning.

First, we get to know ourselves a little bit better by telling each other something we think is underrated overrated um you want to kick off you want me to kick off whatever underrated what's something you think is who did i say last time did i say uh was vinnie del negro a kicker no vinnie del negro was a basketball player and coach of the black time i was vinitary uh i'm nick fulk now i'm nick fulk guys kicking it all ready to kick off he's holding his finger up in the air everybody's waiting could have had a soccer career but like a lot of football kickers you end up being like you know what they like that i kicked the shit out of this weird ball so i'll do that went to my high school actually was it really

i feel like kicker is one of those professional sports jobs that you can do high you know there's no fucking way you you cannot do that high like you have to i'm saying you have in my mind i'm like you almost have to be high right dude i don know. I just kick the ball. I might get fucking ripped if the fucking, if the play comes my way. Where the stoner professional athletes go, they're like, yeah, this is one that I can just kind of show up pretty hungover, maybe still a little bit drunk and get the job done. Who am I thinking? Maybe I'm like, am I like doing like Testa Verde? And I'm trying to think of how Del Negro.

Vinitary Folk. Didn't he do, was he someone to do with the Spurs? Vinny Del Negro? Yeah, Del Negro was with the Spurs. Yeah, okay. Appropriately of the black. I had a wild, I had a, yeah, right. I had a wild weekend and that's why my underrated is show and tell.

Okay. Not because I even have, you know, the, the Ge's child is not close to doing shows or tells quite yet. He's cruising, you know, he's cruising. But I was just thinking about, I was like, just how that shit sticks with you. Like I was talking with people just about like someone, someone's kid having to do show and tell and all these fucking memories flashback. Like, I honestly think I'd be like my first bout of class consciousness came through show and tell we're like oh for sure you bring a toy or whatever i brought like a japanese like ant like manga book i remember one of the first times and i was fucking ridiculed because they're like what the

fuck yeah they're like it's got scribbles for words and i'm like fuck you this isn't this is dragon ball you fucking losers you're gonna be fucking begging me to hang out with you in 10 years anyway so i just remember like then seeing kids come out with like the wildest fucking toys like the shit that like you would go to the toy store and be like can i get that and your parents like absolutely fucking not fucking kidding what the fuck do you think this is no they drive in on their show and tell oh yeah like one of those motorized cars no fucking bullshit like some kid had the fao schwartz mercedes fucking you know power wheels brought that shit to school and i remember being so fucked up about it but anyway i still think about how like those impulses like i feel like there's

still power like what today is our modern like flex culture on instagram because we've lost the school room uh setting to be like and this is what i have and this is why i'm different kind of thing and now it's like i gotta post it on instagram because i gotta do my own show and tell this is my new show and tell that i do um and i just uh it's a it's a powerful force and i was like reading i was trying to see like what like where did where did we where did we come up with this where did we go wrong there's really there's no this is why i think it's an alien technology because we can't quite find the origin of show and tell but it's mostly uh like a english-speaking like uk north america new zealand australia kind of thing and it was like meant to just sort of be able to like bridge the ability of like talking about

home stuff and school stuff and like being able to have like poise or whatever share something about yourself but it's like i i feel like the new version their teachers are probably up on this and like we don't do toys yeah they don't do toys anymore yeah yeah that's what i figured i think there's um some days where you're like allowed to bring a stuffy from home that you're like really fucked with diamond encrusted yeah and i think that i think the real kind of mind fuck of that is like kids realizing that like other people have the same stuff oh like you know right right like there's stuff cheating on them they're like yeah yeah exactly you too with that's brown bunny why wait like it's even crusty i call him bb no yeah you fuck that's brown bunny um oh man yeah

so anyway it's a i just think it's it's a force from that we take from childhood into our adult yeah that i i don't know i just want to have that much from from my kindergarten i don't know if my kindergarten skipped it or if i was just oblivious i was like a real spacey kid i remember like it was like we were worried that's right but i heard like one of my uncles being like we were worried about you there for a while man just like head like head in the clouds kind of head in the clouds just a space doing my own thing uh like in a movie nobody else is aware of yeah well you're very cerebral you're a thinker so that makes sense that as a child it translates to like is that boy all right yeah yeah um all right my underrated i'm so it's professional sports but sport sportos uh or like but non non-sports fans like this this is just something that i'm like kind of viewing professional sports again as an outsider because of

like we so you remember on mad boosties our nba podcast when i saw him like he's back on this chart he's back on this chart i found basically there's a great page of web it's a radio media markets chart that lists the size of media markets so this is something that's come up before because like i was i was was marveling at the fact that Jacksonville is the biggest city in Florida that like fucked me up. I was like, there's, wow, that doesn't make sense. Like Miami is so much more well known. And the reason is just technique, like a technicality, like cities, you know, have their technical size and like Miami is, you know, a handful of different counties spread out.

So media market actually tells you how big a city actually is because that's like how many people live around there and identify around that and can be sold to, I guess. But yeah, I know, I wrote like three paragraphs uh no actually more than that about this shit um so it's just a list of the sizes of markets in the united states so you're basically finding out like how many people actually live around these geographical clusters and the reason was because like there was a player from Denver who was like, I wish I was in one of the big markets and more people would give us our respect.

LeBron in LA or Giannis in Milwaukee. And I was like, Milwaukee is not a big market. Looked it up. It is a much smaller market than Denver. But anyway, also, I've never spelled Milwaukee correctly without the spell check. I love that you spelled it two different ways within three words. It's so difficult. I don't.

Oh, yeah. The U came before the A. There you go. You sleep. Yeah. I just picked it. i don't oh yeah the u come came before you yeah um but anyways the other thing that this chart made me realize right is that there are these like it's a list of you know new york la uh chicago um right all these cities i know and then there are these little pockets in the top 50 that I really don't have any context for and it's all based on whether they have a professional sports team right sport that I pay attention to like San Jose California if you didn't watch Big Little Lies

you don't know shit about it but it is a larger city than like salt lake city and milwaukee but i've spent time in salt lake city and milwaukee just in like professional sporting event b-roll you know right right yeah like i get it there's a you can see the mountain from the venue yeah like those establishing shots yeah what like also big little lies in monterey not san jose it's not all right no yeah see my point exactly that's for a second i was like i don't san jose is not that glamorous but yeah yeah yeah there's a lot of tech people there now yeah middlesex new jersey uh riverside california uh like you don't know riverside dude dude? I mean, I'm aware of Riverside. Didn't I tell you about those t-shirts they used to rock back in the day?

It would say, Homicide, Genocide, Suicide, Riverside. Wow. Yeah. And that was made by Riverside? Yeah, that was like some... I remember seeing some hardcore Riverside people rocking shit like that. It wasn't a huge thing, but I remember like, all right, Riverside. Yeah.

But Middlesex, New Jersey, and Riverside are bigger markets than Cincinnati and Kansas City. Right. I know things about Cincinnati and Kansas City's cuisine. I know what they look like from above. Because of sports. Right. Yeah. Just because of sports.

Indianapolis is smaller than Norfolk, Virginia. Oh. Buffalo is crazy small but buffalo is smaller than like monmouth new jersey but um it's yeah truly like i don't know so it's just interesting like now i understand what like it just like puts like some of the pride and you know just reason for existing of professional sports into context a little bit right i'm not saying these are like accurate snapshots just because i've seen like people throwing fish around the fish market in seattle doesn't mean i know seattle but i at least like it's in my mind it's like on on the map you know right because in my mind it's drawing attention because i mean like you

know to your point like i don't know what the reason there would be national attention on middlesex unless there's like a gigantic convention like if like the if the dnc type thing was happening there maybe something like that or sports but otherwise yeah there's and it never would because there's not venues big enough because no professional sports right it's just this oh my god it's a snake eating its own tail yeah so what what are we saying if we're going by like market size seattle is still the one that needs more well actually no they just don't have a basketball team yeah they just don't have a that's really the tragedy there yeah the biggest market that market that I don't, like Nassau, New York,

which is basically Long Island, Right. is like bigger than Baltimore, St. Louis, Tampa, Denver, Pittsburgh, Portland.

So they have the Islanders, I think, in NHL. I think that's right, but I don't really fuck with hockey, so I don't know like what their culture is. I just know, like I know some people from Long Island, but I feel like I know Long Island less than I know Oklahoma City

or San Antonio because San Antonio has hosted the NBA Finals so often. Right. Or I know Staten Island better because of Wu-Tang. Yeah, yeah. S-I-N-Y-1-0-3-0-4 like i got the fucking zip code right here man like truly put you on the map yeah but i guess like with new york like those kinds of things too like new york is just seen as just this region right there might be new york city but everyone from the area like just sort of is like yeah that's our team so i

guess it's kind of like the collective identity too but yeah long island i think fucks with like the mets and the jets if if i'm not or maybe it's the giants i forget what do you met jets islanders or yankees rangers giants kind of thing right yeah yeah anyway tell us hey long islanders please help us we're fucking ignorant help me help me understand please i didn't realize how big Dallas was either. I thought Dallas was kind of a small city. I remember we were both like, bigger than Houston? It's bigger than Houston.

Dallas is the fifth biggest. It goes New York, LA, Chicago. San Francisco is four, which I didn't realize it was that big. And then Dallas right after it. That's fucking crazy. I guess, again, that might be a hip-hop bias for me. I'm like, but all the rappers?

There's so many rappers from Houston. Yeah, who are all these Dallas people? Just the Cowboys? The Bush clan? Yeah. All right, Miles, what is something you think is overrated? Something I think is overrated. Now, how do I...

Oh, I guess technically Van vanilla ice is a dallas rapper um overrated cool there you go dallas there you go guys just yeah overrated is this i think thinking just trying to embrace trends um and doing it at the expense of acknowledging where you are experientially in life not even in age but i say this because as i approach 40 myself and other millennials i talk to in the sort of same age cohort are like stuck in this space where like we acknowledge we're like yo bro we're washed like we're fucking washed bro like i don't know i don't know half these that are coming out i can barely keep up with new music but like i i do my best um and also like i don't know like

i'm like the shit kids are wearing i'm like that shit looks dumb to me so like i've aged out but at the same time it's like but i'm not uncool though you know what i mean like i still know what's up it's like we're trying to have it both ways it's like look we're either washed and we're like fine with it and not even washed like in a pejorative sense like that we're just the like sort of that mainstream youth culture is for the youth them you know and we are now the 40s them and that's what we washed out of the league we washed out the big league we're in the minors now like uh the catcher and major league yeah i'm like a veteran to just like you know just to encourage on like the next generation of stars to be like hey i was there too man it was called the baby and we were doing it big uh but hey now it's your turn that was 20 years ago um but anyway so like we don't like to feel like we're fucking off trend or whatever the fuck you want to you know

however you want to phrase that but i noticed this specifically every time i go out wearing my phone i i've i wear my phone on a neck strap now yeah because when i was in japan like the last time in december a lot of people were wearing i'm like that kind of has like a swag to it even though like in my mind you're ahead of the curve on this well to me but here's the thing right people pull up like when i wear it now in la they're like whoa all right dad life got your got your phone on the neck strap okay like you're doing you're doing it functional um and then others are like you know that seems like pretty functional to like what my needs are but also like i don't want it i don't want people yelling hashtag dad life at me so i'm gonna pass you know what i mean and at first i saw the neck strap as some like some

high school narc shit where i'm right or you know catch me wearing no fucking neck strap on my phone and i realized it's one of the best things i've done like in terms of my cell phone purchases after buying a case for it is like this neck strap i won't lose it because it's on a bright orange leash basically i can access it whenever i need like i can cook i can hold the kid i can i can summon a recipe and then just fling it back down because it's on a strap i can free my pockets because as you know we're a plumper gang here and i don't need people knowing the exact model of my cell phone base because they can tell from the outline in my pocket so it's nice to have it out of there and i was at a birthday party this weekend and a couple came up to her majesty and i and they were like hey so i just want to thank you for your bravery like with wearing the neck strap in public like we also decided just now as a couple that this is like the mood for us and

and like we just we're like glad we saw like other people our age like using it and i like we feel really great about it and i was like how come like how come you weren't like embracing it sooner they're like well it looks like some high school narc shit and you know we just weren't quite there so anyway sometimes function can be the wave you know what i mean and i think i i don't like i don't even regret it i'm just like yeah man this is like this fucking works like that's why i like it i don't think like i'm just like oh this is my fucking drip because that's where you have to sort of reconcile what those values are uh and for me it's the function and guess what and sometimes being functional turns out can bring you admirers from from all across the age spectrum so shout out i'm just waiting for it to become like a little bit more

popular so it doesn't look like i'm copying you so much you know so like i need to see like a few more people and then i'm gonna you will i'm telling you i'm people are every time i know this feels like i'm wearing a humble brag by the way miles this feels like you being like you know i'm not chasing trends i'm kind of chasing sometimes you do sometimes you travel to japan sometimes you travel to japan and see the wave before it hits see how the united states i was i was pushing away my own people my own culture you know what i mean and i had to just i had to dive in i had to dive in but i think no but it's but truly it's a story about how like you know how the cool people will always be cool i think is what i mean to say yeah really at the end of the day people will always be cool

so stop trying um stop trying by yelling dad life at people who you think are on some dad shit and are actually on some japanese next wave shit this ain't no dad shit bro some japanese trend wave i'm on motherfucker now back up yeah you're just embarrassing yourself um also i will report from the functional perspective, my wife got one of these a while back also. She's kind of ahead of the curve on this shit. So, look, you're not copying nobody. Yeah, I'm having to do the Find My iPhone app like maybe three times a day instead of like seven.

Yeah. So that's pretty, yeah, that's huge. Wait, three? Because you have a neck strap? No, no, because she has an extra and so i don't have to find her phone for her oh like her seven times a day yeah i got it i thought you exactly all right my overrated let's stay on the phone thing picking up do you have the thing where like you can now see when someone is leaving a voicemail for you tells you right and you can

like pick it up in the middle of the voicemail yeah it's just like now voicemail no i haven't done that i haven't done that shit since like i was using a landline in like 98 yeah yeah so this is like you can now jump in when someone is leaving a message and interrupt interrupt them and basically be like oh hey i'm actually here and it's yeah it's like waking a sleepwalker while they're asleep. There's just something humiliating about it. They go from autopilot to like, oh shit,

there's someone... Oh, fuck, dude. I thought I wasn't going to talk to anybody. And it's confusing because not everybody knows about this ability. So I've just made a vow to myself, I'm not doing that shit. Don't pick up a call.

Did it happen to you? I'm guessing it happened to you and that was. No, I did it to a couple people and just their kind of confusion really like fucks the whole conversation. Yeah. Like, well, I was gonna say. Yeah, exactly. It's like you caught someone like stealing or something. Where they're like, well, I was gonna say um yeah yeah exactly it's like you caught someone like

stealing or something yeah they're like well i was gonna put it back it's the thing you're like what right like it's thing is i wasn't expecting to speak to a human right now so this kind of fuck yeah i remember doing that like when we had those little tape answering machines back at my yeah with the little micro tapes up i know and then you'd be like yo hold on i gotta hang up there or else everything's gonna be on wax like let me call you right back or like you have to run over and stop the fucking answering machine to be like do not record this weird shit i'm about to talk about yeah yep yep yep i won't do it i won't do it it's like the opposite of like the answering machine message that like tricks people into thinking you're there yeah this

is like real pickup mid answering machine yeah it's fucked up so you're breaking the sacred bond of you know phone etiquette i feel like because it's a social finish line you know what i mean it's like once i've crossed i've look i did i was doing the thing where i was willing to talk to you during the rings yes but now that we're there, now that we've crossed the Rubicon into voicemail, I'm happy to not be talking to you. There is a relief when somebody's voicemail picks up.

I know not many people actually call each other anymore, but I'm trying to do more phone calls, actually talk to people. I think there's some benefit to that. Yeah, you have to. You got to. Oh, I'm, you have to. You got to. I'm all pro-phone. You got to. Let's take a quick break

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And is it help for American people? Well, unfortunately, it's billions of dollars of aid for everyone except Americans. But we could care less about the country struggling. But hey, the status quo going to status quo. And Mike Johnson did his thing. And despite all the Republicans that have turned into Russian propagandists like marjorie taylor green those freaks were unable to fully cut off the money hose for ukraine because they will be receiving around 60 billion dollars wow and what i'm pretty sure is lethal aid uh indo-pacific allies read people that we're hoping will fight china if we need them to when called upon are getting eight billion dollars and israel gets 26 billion dollars although nine billion of the 26 billion is going to humanitarian

aid in gaza um which is just such a weird like notion where it's like if you're gonna be providing lethal aid to israel like nine billion just feels like a fucking weird number that's like art like you could say it like you're just saying it out loud to be like and there's aid for them too yeah but also more lethal munitions for the people to to then attack them um and i feel like you know you could just do the thing all palestinians and most of the civilized world are clamoring for an immediate ceasefire but hey just look we got it we got it we got to feed the machine and it's again like to your point send money just gotta send money man and just said we did indiscriminate money hose indiscriminate money hose just not for social services just not for things like medicare

for all there's nothing like real you know making college affordable for people maybe child care service whatever i don't know what the fuck i'm talking about turn on the money hose and they'll figure it out you know exactly i'm sure it'll be fine it's like that scene in what is uhf when it's like you ready to drink from the fire hose yeah just blow your head off with money um but yeah to your point about like the you know the tide's turning for mike johnson there's like there's this op-ed in the washington post i was like you know we got we actually gotta commend mike johnson gotta give him a chance he's a fucking hero man he really showed spine i mean like what i mean i get that the gop is now just like 300 racists and like russian propagandists in a trench coat but like doing the normal thing which is just throwing

money away into the military industrial complex fire, like, is it really a cause for celebration? You know what I mean? Like, he's still the same fucking guy who decided to go through with a bullshit impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas, like, drummed up all this xenophobia about the border, only to then just be like, actually, no border deal, because this is all just rhetorical fuckery that I was engaged in. He's an election denier but sure let's let's really yeah he showed such spine when he denied the results of the election uh but yeah he did a thing john boehner would have done so i guess he is redeemed right so yeah turn off your covenant eyes tonight mike and just this one's on us covenant eyes of course the app that he uh uses to try and stop himself from jacking off and it like sends his son too yeah sends his search history to his son and his son's search history like it. Specifically highlighting any

untoward online activity. They get reports on one another that is an actual app. Just keep looking at the Merck medical manual online. What's in there? Oh, nothing. Just cool body parts. Just want to learn about.

But yeah, such a low barrier that we're now applauding them for doing the horrifying thing that they've been doing for years yeah and it's also like an opportunity hakeem jeffries can be like well the democrats had to also come in and save the day and like so everybody gets to kind of like pat themselves on the back for just again the status quo which again is just from what i'm reading mostly death dollars being handed out yeah yeah but um um yeah the president zielinski also thanked mike johnson so he's got that he can he can hang on to uh there you go yeah put that yeah put that on a shelf um and try not to jack off to it uh try right there you go put that on your little shelf

all right uh there's this article in the new yorker that i found kind of um interesting clarifying the spine of it is about that guy remember the guy who shot himself into the sky in a rocket to try and prove the earth was flat and died in the process yeah yeah his fucking homebrew rocket yeah yes so the thesis of this article is basically that you know when i hear about like q anon i'm imagining like a future war like the chinese civil war that killed 20 million people because they believed this cult leader was jesus's son um like i the things they say they believe are so bizarre that i'm there's kind of this tension in my mind about like how come they're not like constantly we're not constantly seeing like people run into you know like do wild shit with you know they're not like constantly we're not constantly seeing like people run into you know like do

wild shit with you know they're all super well armed and they apparently believe that everyone is part of like this satanic cabal and yeah um i mean it pops up every now and then like the one guy who like shot his neighbor because he thought he was a Democrat and stuff like that. But yeah, it's definitely not. But for the most part, like the numbers aren't where you might expect them to be. Right. And this article is basically saying that when you look at the research on disinformation and like the like false beliefs, like the transparently false beliefs, like people kind of believe it in the way that like catholics believe the bread is the body of christ but like don't actually expect like blood

to start running down their mouth when they like you know it's not his body right yeah yeah but they like believe it yeah it's not like they, you know, like they've done. So they've done all these experiments with like, um, Democrats and Republicans where like Republicans, like they'll ask them to estimate something that's like politically charged, like the number of deaths in Iraq. And, um,

Republicans will generally be like further off than Democrats from reality. But when you start rewarding them with money for accuracy they actually like the they they get much more accurate like that the different kind of almost disappear yeah they knock it off essentially exactly how about for a couple bucks you knock this bullshit off all right right yeah and so wow the the reason they focus on the flat earth guy is that he was so his story was actually that he was a daredevil like a backyard he he idolized evil kenevil always wanted to be evil kenevil um like uh you know five years before his death he was like trying to fund his like backyard rocket launches um and could only like raise 310 dollars on gofundme right and then he

was like you know what would be smart is if i said it was all part of like flat earth shit oh shit like he was interested vaguely in flat earth stuff it was like part of he was like a conspiracy theorist but sure then he like hooked it up to that and was like i'll fund my rocket launch so i can like expose the truth about like nasa being a conspiracy and that's where that all came from but like there's lots to indicate that he didn't actually believe the earth was flat um the like even the story didn't really make sense when you think about it like he didn't appear to be reaching or coming close to the levels of like an airplane which still doesn't show you the curvature of the earth so it's like it didn't

didn't really make sense that this guy was like actually trying to do anything with flat earth more vibes than science honestly with that whole crew yeah exactly and so it's it's just interesting i think i think it like that it's something that i come back to a lot as we're, you know, dealing with this, uh, you know, the news is like the stupidity of others seems to be a myth that like both sides want to believe in and want to like simplify the other person's

assumptions. And it's easy to do in the abstract and at a distance, but it's generally like less true in the, like there, there's these two systems of belief, uh, that we have. And like,

one is like symbolic beliefs. And the other is like, I believe there's a chair here that I can actually sit down on. All right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

And some people don't believe there's a shed from the rnc all right president obama oh boy yeah so anyway sorry go on so anyways i'll link off to the new yorker article on the uh footnotes but it's a it's a pretty interesting read that i think is like i mean it does show how like a lot of these people just come to embrace oh someone's calling right now and should i answer them when they go to voicemail voicemail hey what's up fool it's no one i know it's it's probably some fucking robot call anyway spam um but no like it's interesting to see how malleable people are when it's just advantageous for them to have a certain belief set whether

that's to be like part of an in-group or to be part of a bigger group the social setting or for funding your rocket fuckery um yeah damn yeah yeah it's like convenient for social like it's they they point to this idea that like it's a a driver of group identity that like when you have beliefs that are like really strange like the more the more unsubstantiated and strange the beliefs the better because then it proves like how down you are with the with the group so like religions often define their membership on the basis of like really unverifiable or even like unintelligible beliefs and right like similar things yes exactly oh you don't okay well i see you okay yeah yeah okay so but then when you ask like when the money's on the line like they will not. All right, I'll knock it off. I can't speak. Exactly. People just are surprisingly realistic when you put even a small amount of money, like

the small amount of money that comes in a, you know, experiment in the humanities. Like $10 or something. Yeah. And even then that feels like a lot. Yeah. All right. Should we take one more break and come back and hit some more news? Let's do it.

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claim his uncle was eaten by cannibals. Yep. Yeah. So he was campaigning in Pittsburgh last week and told a story about how his uncle, Bosie, was shot down in Papua New Guinea

in World War II. His body was never found because there used to be a lot of cannibals for real in that part of Papua New Guinea in World War II. His body was never found because there used to be a lot of cannibals, for real, in that part of Papua New Guinea. Yeah. And, of course, the official war records concerning his uncle's death feature no reference to cannibalism or even that the plane was shot down. But these are the sorts of like family legends that people start start blending with reality as you get older and older right here this is let's hear let's hear from our president

joe byron about the cannibalism that his family was subjected to and my uncle they call them ambrose bros they call him. Oh boy, he's falling asleep. He's a hell of an athlete, they tell me when he was a kid. And he became an Army Air Corps before the Air Force came along. He flew those single engine planes as reconnaissance over war zones. He got shot down in New Guinea. And they never found the body because there used to be a lot of cannibals for real in that part of new guinea and uh and then oh man fair enough wow man i feel

you know what that is democrats republicans need to unite over the fact that no matter which candidate is speaking they will there will be a backdrop of bored out of their minds people holding signs they're just like that's the case what the fuck is he going uncle ben's i'm born i'm bozzie was a hell of an athlete and my name is babe uh aunt tootie i'm serious man she got shot down over the uh over the black forest and an old lady lured her to her house and baked her into a pie i'm serious man exactly man she had gams that would make mussolini cry what talking about cry yeah i love i remember when this came out too because at first the headline was like joe biden's out here here saying cannibals ate his uncle. And then initially, without him pushing back, they're like, even the official record from the Department of Defense says that he just wasn't found.

Had nothing to do with cannibals. But then I like that he doubled. Joe Biden really had to fucking be like, no. That was true, man. I'm not kidding. And I'm not kidding and i'm not kidding his favorite thing to do say something incredibly stupid and then reiterate over and over that you're not kidding yeah congratulations to him that's wildly entertaining uh but not not a ton of energy there no no especially when you have yeah people pushing back to like yeah on the other side of the

presidential uh election another low energy loser donald trump so obviously no cameras allowed in his new york trial um but there are the sketch artists yeah and uh donald trump is not a fan apparently he reportedly critiqued the quality of the sketches behind the scenes which isn't all that surprising considering that one caught him dozing off with his own lawyer kind of being like yeah are you fucking real yeah like kicking him hey motherfucker all right and then there's another sketch that uh i think a lot of like i've i feel like everybody saw this one where he's it looks like a villain from a dr seuss book oh totally yeah yeah he looks like the grinch's lawyer you know i mean he's wearing a suit he's like i'll get you out of this one don't worry man fuck just like a weird like shit eating grin making eye

contact with the sketch artist the thing that i love though is that not that i love this is the fucking part about whenever we because trump is just such a fucking just loser with all kinds of weird things going on that like it's easy to make fun of kind of thing the other story that kept going out was that he's just farting to a bunch the entire time. Just farting. Cheating up the fart box. Just sleeping and farting, man. Just Rip Van Winkle.

You know, just ripping him and sleeping him. And that's what I come away with. I'm like, this fucking guy's going to get away with some other shit that everyone's like, yeah, but he's farting, man. And that sucks we're farting our way into the apocalypse right now uh but sure um i just i just like that there's really no way for them to get around the sleeping thing because he's been sleeping pretty much every time he's in court and they're like this is a fucking there's just a vendetta against him that people i can't stay awake um i've i've

had those things though where like i don't know they're definitely farting a lot warm warm rooms where you just have to sit still and you just can't stay awake you know that's yeah i mean it's the worst that's me in high school college yes i could not for the fucking if i'm sitting especially if it's dark yeah i it it happens like i just start fucking dozing off or just something where you just don't care like clearly it's more a function of how disengaged from the process donald trump is because in his mind he's like i don't know i just have to sit here while they fucking talk or whatever and then i'll get out of it like i always always do. So I'll just fucking go to sleep. Are we done here? Yeah.

A Trump rep said that the sources behind the drawings are losers who will try to peddle fantasy as fact because they live miserable existences. Again, like it's just so... He's been real... I'm this trump rep is uh speaking on his

behalf and maybe uh that this was directly authored this statement was directly authored by him i have no idea where i'm getting that no steven chung who i think he's smart enough that he knows how to like i think he has a job because he has a skill of talking how trump wants to sound okay yeah because it's just always like they're losers and that's they're just jealous and he's Like, I think he has a job because he has a skill of talking how Trump wants to sound. Okay. Yeah. Because it's just always like, they're losers and they're just jealous. And he's like, perfect. Exactly.

That's why I'm sleeping. Because they're losers and jealous. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. But he's very thin-skinned about the falling asleep in court. I know. It's weird.

He doesn't take much umbrage with the fart reports in court. I know. It's weird. He doesn't take much umbrage with the fart reports. Yeah. I haven't seen the fart reports. Are we getting those? Has Maggie Haberman kind of backed up reporting on the farts? Yeah. I mean, let's

see. There's always Michael Cohen talking about the smell rumors. Someone says there's there's always michael cohen talking about the smell rumors but oh someone says there's no evidence that trump farted okay according to snopes yeah so yeah his lawyer might just be incredibly flatulent um yeah yeah because haberman was the one that said he fell asleep yeah but and then other people were like it smells around him because the other thing that is something people say is that he's odious the stinky man yeah yeah but how that how that plays out i don't know i mean obviously we're not gonna we'll never have a proper camera

angle of a loud fart but either way um he's as you get older you definitely uh have a little bit less control over your flash lens so this is not not shocking to me that he's a no come to my house any holiday there's if you want to see old people fart in a grand chorus it's it happens every fucking time and you know i do want to see that miles so yeah it was a lot for her mad invitation accepted yeah hey come through come through they're farting they're farting right now all right uh number one show on netflix uh is what jennifer did uh which is a troubling true crime documentary that is just ahead of in second place woody woodpecker goes to camp oh boy which i i'm hearing also very dark uh i bet you know i mean like what is it are they just mapping like the earnest films to woody woodpecker

is it like woody woodpecker goes to prison right are you allowed to do that i don't know goes to camp like that was earnest woody woodpecker saves christmas um yeah it's interesting though like woody woodpecker does not have an imprint it's interesting though like woody woodpecker does not have an imprint i feel like for this younger generation maybe i'm wrong about that but my kids missed woody woodpecker and woody woodpecker was a fixture when i was a kid well then do you remember how like insufferably be doing the woody woodpecker laugh as a kid you're doing it you're doing it at 20 commitment man i need to really i need you to be that yeah man

and they're like dude please shut up and we're like no we're woody woodpecker so maybe maybe bless the kids for not knowing yeah but anyway what if we made a character that was intentionally annoying as fuck? Yeah. And would cause parents around the world to have some kind of breakdown. Yeah. But yeah, the thing's,

it's a, the thing's about a woman who like hired a hit person to like kill her parents, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pretty dark.

Hit men that you can hire are basically not real, FYI, just for any of our, our listeners out there um that's a cop if you're trying to hire one that's a cop um but anyways uh with certain photos in the documentary uh are clearly but allegedly but i mean we we now know the trademarks of AI images and this shit is clearly they just stuck it

through an AI filter or whatever it was one of the EPs is admitting they did some photo editing for I guess acceptable reasons to remove other people and other details

from the picture so that it wasn't clear whose photos were being used um right but they they're not specifically speaking to the ai part um yeah which that's the reason that the story is because ai is putting people out of work and doing a shitty job right exactly if you wanted to remove someone from a photo or whatever a person can do that but when you run it through your thing and then suddenly they have like alien hands where like each hand has like three digits yeah on it just everything about like it's so funny how these people who like make these decisions are like it's fine no one's gonna look at the background because the second you do you're like what the fuck is going on in

this room like yeah if you're just looking at her face maybe sure you're like oh they're smiling yeah and like the context is a room but you start looking at the hands the nose like just the inexplicable shit there's no doorknobs or hit's just all bad. All bad. There's a shelf full of lotions in the background that appears to be operating on MC Escher physics. It's just like floating tilted sideways.

Yeah. Nothing makes sense in the image. If you gave this task to a human, they'd have it done in about an hour it would look great would not have broken fingers there's a whole subreddit that you can go to on reddit and you can just be like hey can you do this to a picture and then you can just tip them at the end and they do it so quick and better than this but again dude oh i forgot to say when i was in japan i saw this this ad on the side of a building that

i like it sort of seemed pretty like innocuous until like i really read into it it says it's called dip dream idea passion dip.ai and i was like oh no and then the subheader was labor force solution company oh no that is the most the final yeah labor force solution jesus christ let's give it nazi vibes dude we don't need solutions to the labor force at all like it might be better pay but not like we have the thing that will dust them forever yes uh labor force cleansing department yeah huh no uh whatever it is but this is just like dude ai everywhere like even with the kendrick lamar drake beef there was like a diss track that came out that was like it turned out to be ai there's now uh ai tupac on a track that drake put out it's just there's so

much like it's even it's even unsettling the rap like beef game right now can you explain like so basically kendrick drake and j cole were like we're part of the big three with kendrick like the three best rappers yes like we're and they put themselves on the same level as kendrick kendrick came out and just demolished them in a verse he had one verse yeah one verse on a future song right yeah with metro booming and then then dra then Kendrick, or then Cole responded. And then he ended up being like, you know what? Actually, I don't want smoke. Because, let's be real, that's really not J. Cole's lane.

And he's a great rapper, but like most people know, he's an honest, sensitive guy. And I think he was like, this isn't really what i how i stand as a person i was really pressured to respond and it just doesn't feel right for me he took that track down yeah and then everyone fucking flamed him because they're like wow bro really like you're getting called out by name and you respond and then you're like i'm smoke free now actually um and then then drake had one leak and then he finally put out an official track on friday and then he put another one another track out called taylor made and now it was like what's kendrick gonna do what's kendrick gonna do and it's i mean a lot of people like i wonder if you

know drake better be careful because last time he got in a battle someone was like hey what about your secret baby you failed dad and everyone And everyone was like, oh, shit. And everyone was like, you better not be talking about these underage girls because that's, you know, my man has a fucking glass jaw for a punchline. But again, a lot of people were like, is someone willing to go there in hip hop

when there's already such like, you know, vile behavior? I don't know. So we're waiting on pins and needles. But in the interim, people are so interested that it's allowing like pins and needles but in the interim people are so interested that it's allowing like ai fake tracks to come out people like oh my gosh it's finally a response yeah and it's like no it's it's not it's not it's not it's not just wait for them to release something uh well also uh do you hear the taylor swift song that ethered kendrick on her

new album um i mean they were on a track together you know yeah so the tortured poets department i mean who who do we think the torture she's threatening to torture kendrick lamar uh one of our great american coming out on drake on drizzy's side that's right um yeah no i did 1830s was trending all all weekend and i was like what the fuck it truly was uh not like the number one thing trending uh all weekend uh on the song i hate it here so she dropped her latest album i'm sure most people are aware that it is two hours long um and the people uh were uh talking about a section that said my friends used to play a game where we would pick a decade

we wished we could live in instead of this. I'd say the 1830s, but without all the racists and getting married off for the highest bid. It's definitely a 2016 as like i don't know remind it reminds me of uh an earlier time you know yeah wait what do you mean like this kind of like longing for the antebellum yeah and just being willing to be like yeah but without the races like yeah well that's a very privileged way to... Yeah, because you're looking at...

In this version, you are still a white person. And you're like, but I make it tenable for my friends, who might not be white, to say, but without the racists. Yes. And in this, she's being married off, so she is an heiress. Yes, yes. And what's that dowry do that's right please let us know but yeah i i get like there it's like no no but like without that

because i remember like i remember when people were like oh man the 60s would have been cool man and i'm like yeah for you you know i mean like it's weird i think because certain people whatever marginalized group or oppressed group you might be a part of you still you think of these times like i don't know man even now kind of fucking sucks to be right 100 honest here but i like again she did the she did the thing to try and be as diplomatic which like what the without the racists yeah yeah what about slavery well right um okay let me get back to you on that let me get back to you i that. I didn't think that far. Yeah. There's also the runner-up for a thing that was getting flamed the most

or talked about the most was a song called So High School because it name-checks American Pie. People are speculating that this song is about Travis Kelsey based on these lyrics. And I don't know where they get this idea that it's Travis Kelsey, but the lyrics say, I'm watching American Pie with you

on a Saturday night. No. Your friends are around, so be quiet. I'm trying to stifle my size because I feel so high school every time i look at you but look at you um so yeah you're so hot but also you're making me watch american pie on a saturday night with your friends that honestly like she's that's like brilliant comedic writing it is like

it's like a tweet that would kill me. Everything's going pretty good with my boyfriend, except we do this thing called American Pie Saturday nights where his friends come over and we have to watch American Pie, the 1998 or 99 film. I'm not laughing at her on that one. That shit is funny as hell. This is the visual.

I'm almost like, yo, that's grim. I don't want to be part of that Saturday night. Yeah. Anyways. Just the idea of someone who insists on keeping watching American Pie freaks me out. Yeah.

Alright. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday. April 22nd. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourself. Get the vaccine.

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