The Daily Zeitgeist - TDZ's Year In TikTok 2024
Episode Date: December 31, 2024In this special episode, Jack and Miles are joined by super producers Becca Ramos, Catherine Law, Victor Wright, and Bei Wang to discuss their favorite TikTok trends of 2024!See omnystudio.com/listene...r for privacy information.
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Hello the internet and welcome to this year end episode of Dirt Island, guys.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, baby. Hi, Miles. It's me, yeah. Yeah, baby. Hi, Miles.
It's me, Jack.
Hey, Jack.
Hey.
So this is the episode where I learn the most every year.
There's this whole world happening on TikTok that I am-
This whole world happening? TikTok that I am as a psychological experiment, not because I'm washed.
As a psychological experiment, I just keep myself in a sensory deprivation tank from
TikTok so that I don't know anything until this very episode when we bring on some TikTok drenched members of our team to come on, tell
us what has happened and hear me go, wait, what? Or whoa, or stuff like that.
Well, you're in good hands because between my very narrow things I like on TikTok. You have one, I think.
I mean, I have one.
I mean, I'm scrolling my For You page a lot,
but there is a couple of things that I was like,
I think this will be interesting to Jack
because it kind of intersects with many different things.
But we also have our esteemed executive producer,
super producer, Catherine Law here,
who is also holding it down.
Bring it up for Catherine the CL.
Hello, hello.
Hello. I'm so happy to be joining. Also, holding it down. Bring it up a couple of CL. Pull it up in the CL. Oh, hello. Hello, hello.
I'm so happy to be joining.
Also, also.
The originator of this show.
From the 36 Chambers.
Up from the 36 Chambers.
We got our very own, but obviously now,
working on many fantastic shows,
producer Becca Ramos is back.
Becca.
She belongs to the world now.
Yes.
Becca Ramos.
We're merely the soil from which these magnificent things grow.
And also, our wonderful, wonderful super producer,
Victor Wright, is in the building too, Victor.
Oh my god, Victor Wright.
This is a genuine surprise.
I had no idea.
What are you doing here?
I see you every day.
What is he doing here?
And also shout out producer Bay, who's in the wings.
So, Jack, I know you don't you always talk about how
this is a complete mystery to me.
Yeah, there's a lot of Apple rote.
No. OK, there's something there are words on here that I've heard of.
I know what a lake is.
I know what it means to be spooky, but
I don't know why spooky lake month is here. I don't know why I went Adam sailor there
probably because I'm very old. It does give who be Halloween spooky lake month. You know,
the one thing that I am most intrigued about because this is one that miles you keep talking
about and everybody else is like, oh yeah. Well, miles is like, well, I've kind of into I am most intrigued about because this is one that miles you keep talking about
And everybody else is like, oh, yeah when miles like well, I've kind of into this thing and everyone like
And I'm like, haha, yes
I'm trying too hard the obvious. Yeah, I'm trying to our miles. Tell me what dark fantasy is
Okay, this is I think this is interesting because dark fantasy is like this whole genre of video
where people are using AI to just create
these surreal fantasy worlds,
sometimes out of whole cloth,
other times to sort of like give a twist
on existing sort of IP that we are very familiar with.
So I'm gonna give you a first taste
of an AI slopped dark fantasy video
that essentially kind of gives you an idea,
this is what I'm looking at when I'm like,
oh yeah, this is dark fantasy shit.
Okay, because you said it and you played the music
and I was like, I know this,
but I don't know what Miles is talking about
as someone who's too chronically in line.
I'm like, what the fuck is dark fantasy?
But now- Then you see it and you're like, oh this now I know
Cuz a lot of people do do memes like they parody it and they're like
This is what it looks like to be a woman in the dark fit and they're just kind of doing like weird
like dark fantasy
Crime drama and it's like right and it looks like
Yeah film and like the prompts they, I think, is probably like
70mm Panavision lenses.
The prompts are pretty dialed in to give it this look.
So anyway, Jack, this is a quick peek into your base foundational dark fantasy video
for those at home.
It's basically a lot of weird, creepy shit, like a court jester and drag and other stuff.
Here it is.
Yeah.
Ooh, I like that.
The visuals are-
So they're just these kind of still moments
of things that look like Dungeons and Dragons,
like stuff you see in Dungeons and Dragons.
Now, it gets weird when people then start doing
their version like, this is dark fantasy's Toy Story.
This is dark fantasy Toy Story where now you're getting,
so again, all of these are like,
they look like human beings,
but they're now fully looking like Woody or Buzz Lightyear.
And they all use the same music too, for the most part.
Except for this one.
It's like if Woody was like the ballad of Buster Scruggs.
Yes. Right, exactly.
I don't like this.
Everybody has the same energy. Yeah. Yeah. Right exactly. I don't like this Energy yeah, yeah
lifeless
With a little bit of movement
Now that's Toy Story and then this one is snow white again
This kind of gives you an idea what people are just really after is just seeing all these I don't know
This one has like a bit of a different aesthetic. Everybody looks a little bit hotter.
I feel like this one is the most real out of all of them.
Yeah, no.
That's what I'm like, it is interesting too,
because then you see these other videos where people are like,
these are the most dark fantasy aesthetic movies
you need to see if you're missing dark fantasy.
And they're like, watch Labyrinth.
You know what I mean?
Like when you're older, you're like... Yeah, that's what it reminds me of. You mean real dark fantasy and they're like, watch labyrinth. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, that's what I mean.
Yeah. When I was a kid, I like went to a friend's house and they were watching.
I think it was labyrinth and it like fucked me up.
I was like, what is this?
But like they were just watching it like it was fucking Home Alone or something.
You know? Yeah.
Well, there's also, I think, just like an aesthetic nostalgia, I think,
for this like look that obviously also I think, for this, like,
look that obviously also feeds into a lot of people, like, really like, I think that's
what kind of pulled me in.
I was like, oh yeah, I kind of like it, the film look, I think also draws a lot of people
in and out, like, have you seen Jason and the Argonauts?
Like, okay, if that's a entry point into that, then, then great.
Yeah, it's very, it's giving Krull.
Yeah. If you remember krull yeah
100% nick krull nick krull yeah yeah nick krull from krull show yeah and victor you're also you
fuck with the dark fantasy too he said yeah you know i'm an la girly so i'm smoking the 420 every once in a while. And the kind of dark fantasy that
the kind of dark fantasy I always land on when I'm I'm high
is the the caption is always you're fated.
Which mythical creature is going to cook for you?
And it's always like an otter making salmon or
a minotaur giving you steak or shit like that and it's the exact same like dead-eyed thing but there's also just delicious food
with the steam coming up.
It's beautiful.
Yeah.
I'm in like the nostalgic film and TV version.
Okay, so you have culinary dark fantasy.
This is quite an education of how different your for you page can get, you know?
Because I feel like the only dark fantasy clip I got
was that Snow White one on my for you page.
I feel like I've vaguely gotten those.
Or like they're always like 80s crime drama vibe.
Like they're like, oh yeah, the detective, you know,
having to go after and solve the case,
but his marriage is falling apart.
Those are the ones I'm getting, you know?
But Miles, because he's a sick fuck,
Tick Tock is like, oh, here you go.
Here why shovel this shit into your buzz?
Like you're in a panavision.
When you go ahead, here it is always the same music.
I know it's funny things I take.
Like you already know the genre.
And I already know some AI thing is like, you know, doing that,
like the ever moving like face thing
I don't know how to describe it. Just giving you a slight movement. They're like it is kind of video
Yeah, you're moving five inches. I saw one it was like
Breaking Bad and Westeros were Walter White the alchemist and I thought for a second
I thought it was real people but then I noticed only the lips were moving and
second I thought it was real people but then I noticed only the lips were moving and nothing else was going on. I'm like oh what a weird fucking thing. There are other ones with like
triple x tentacion or like pop smoke like in heaven but looking like or mac miller looking
like heavenly warriors. I just scroll past a lot of them because the uncanny validness of the ai
really does like trip me the fuck up a lot of times. I get really scared. I'm like, no, no, no, this is not real and I don't like it.
What else is confounding you on this list, Jack?
Confounding me.
I mean, one thing that's intriguing me is that I saw somebody
said that cunt and cunty is becoming more like getting a more
everyday language usage on TikTok,
which I feel like I've noticed a little bit
in the rest of the world, in the non-TikTok world.
So I was intrigued to find this out.
Should I play the video or who's setting this up?
I was the one who added this.
I think we can play a little bit of these.
So this video is from these two twins,
one is gay and one is straight
And they have a cute little podcast together, and it is called twin you endo twin you endo
When you endo here here are the boys from twin you endo this kind of what does that mean?
No, it's like they're believing it. It's so femme. It's so like
boss bitch. Like instead of saying like like oh my god that was
She's such a girl boss. That was such a girl boss move that we don't say that because you can buy that in Hobby Lobby
Today I picked up my kids and Piper gave me a test that she got a 98 on and she's really excited and I should have said
You little cunt.
That's a bad test.
No.
That's right.
No.
See, I thought it was going to be a clip that was like, I think it's from Drag Race and
it's like, no, that's cunt.
Like that one.
It's become like a catch-all, like that's very sexy, that looks great.
And I feel like the Irish have had this for so long.
They've been able to say this willy-nilly, and now finally-
Your wee cunt, they say to a child.
Exactly.
What?
What is the fact of this?
What do you think the Irish,
and like if you're in the queer scene,
like this is like commonplace, you know?
Like it's everywhere.
It's like the very predictable,
like you know, black, gay, gay drag queen culture making it to mainstream language
Pipeline and then you're like, oh now everyone everything is that's how I felt watching that clip. I was kind of like, okay
Really? These two white dudes are really to me what it means to use the word
Like it just when we have common. Yeah, I don't explain to other
Like it does when we have common. Yeah, I know explain to other white
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, you already have charisma uniqueness nerve talent It's that right people now we can just say it at work and now you can say it now
We can all sit on this because that's kind on a work zoom. Jack just said you we cunt
That up right
We cunt. And we're all like, yes.
Ryan, edit that out.
Ryan, edit that out.
I'm very scared.
On the next earnings call.
Oh, these numbers are cunt.
How crazy.
You know, the downloads are so cunt right now, guys.
I mean, he's using that.
That's not how you use it.
All right, whatever.
Dude, this Diet Coke is cunt.
All right.
We're going further and further from the definition.
Fully using it incorrectly.
Okay, I'll bite.
What is a trauma candy salad?
Becca, do you wanna handle this one?
Okay. I love this one.
I love the trauma candy salad.
They have gotten really wild.
Some of them I'm like, woo, take a breath.
Maybe let's offline and go
directly to a therapist office, but basically you get a bowl and you buy a
bunch of fucking candy and then you introduce yourself every time you pick a
candy and pour in the bowl, but you go like, hi I'm Becca, I brought the sour
patches and immediate trauma dump and you like literally just like dump the
most traumatic thing that's ever happened in your life except most people who trauma dump in the trauma dump candy bowl
it's like the most dramatic thing that could ever happen to one person times ten because
there's ten different moments that they're describing which I love because I'm a gossip
queen you know she smells like to the max love listening to a trauma dump but some of
them I'm like I'm concerned for you genuinely
Okay, Jack and and me also a trauma candy salad. Here we go
Hi, I'm Shelby and I got married and had two children with a man who was disabled and took care of him and there's some
Back to health and then he left me for his co-worker and I brought me close
Julie and when I was 13,
I dated a man that was 24 and then whenever we got caught,
he killed himself on my birthday.
And I brought snow caps.
See what I'm saying?
It's real promise.
Straight to the therapist office.
Yo.
It's not Jesus.
Are we meant to believe that like all of these happen to the same person?
No, they happen to each of them.
So if they're saying it, it happens to them.
Yes. Yeah.
Like for real. Oh, my God.
Holy shit, dude.
And then it gets worse, Jack.
So it's like that's the warm up.
How does it get worse than that?
Shall we find out?
You're like listening in their life story and you're like,
how could it get worse? Well, let's find out. And my most recent boyfriend actually just I had to
break up with him because he wouldn't cut off a friendship with a girl that I already got cheated
on within another relationship and I got these berries. Hi I'm Julie and my ex crashed his car and tried to kill me in it and I brought sour crawlers
Okay, she real yeah real
But I love great example of how
Tik Tok is a place that people just kind of seem to forget that
It's still the internet and that's still your digital footprint and you really are trauma-dumbing to millions of strangers
Every day it's like how the story times have gotten crazier and crazier these days and I love the comments that are often like they don't happen on the trauma dump candy salad, but
sometimes on a
Storytime people will be like I miss diaries, you know
I miss secrets because some things people share, it's just like,
maybe that wasn't for HitGo, you know?
Like maybe we gotta remember to scale it back.
But.
Yeah, let's remember, let's remember.
I have a question and maybe Becca or Catherine can answer.
Do they like eat the candy in the bowl?
Cause they're mixing nerds and like snow caps, so.
Wow.
They don't ever show them eating it.
So who's this guy?
It's about making it.
It's like a rock.
Victor famously, yeah.
A cheat day from the rock.
Yeah, right.
He just shows you the food and never eats it.
Yeah.
I don't like candy mixing.
Yeah.
I kind of feel like anybody who,
like the person who's bringing the nerds gummy clusters,
that's always the mic drop of the whole list.
Yes.
Like that's always the best one.
Yes. Yeah, that also the best, the best new candy. I would say. I love those.
Too good. Should we take a quick break and we'll come back?
Let's take a quick break.
And we're back we're back and there are some of these that I probably if you gave me enough
time could have predicted myself such as sea shanties devoted to cyber trucks.
Those are those two groups overlap.
So we like writing sea shanties about their
cyber trucks?
It's more about like how shitty cyber tracks are.
Oh good.
Oh, Joel.
Yes.
They're using the language of, of, uh, Tik Tok songs to then take a dump on the
cyber truck.
Let's hear this one.
Uh, this is, let's see this one.
Does it have a title? It's called, no, man, this is a good one. Someone just, this cyber sh let's see, this one, does it have a title?
It's called, no man, this is a good one.
Someone just, this cyber shanty is killing it.
Let's hear it.
When I was a lad, I idoled me dad.
Wanna be him when I grew up.
So when I got old, said I'll go for bold
and bought me a cyber truck.
It was real and it's still.
It gives me manly feels. It cost quite a buck and it's ugly as fuck. Hey
This wild driving behind a cyber truck like in the wild which is like came up with that on the fly probably incredible work
Yeah, that's like it. That's a theater kids dream. They're like, I got this watch this Let me just bang on the fucking dash real quick. It cost me a buck and it's ugly as fuck. Yeah
Beautiful beautiful. Yeah, that's a real I never know like just a sad feeling every time I see a Cybertruck
I'm like man. Yeah
Every time I see one I'm like, I can't believe you're real. Like, you're not just like a toy. Yeah, yeah.
I saw one yesterday that was legitimately like, diarrhea taupe brown.
And I was like, what is the choice?
What is the choice?
I saw someone wrapped theirs in hot pink.
I'm actually trolling people.
Like it's a hot pink wrapped cyber truck here in New York.
Yeah.
I can kind of get behind that.
You know what's weird?
I've recently seen more women driving cyber.
I've like, the last three cyber truck drivers I've seen
have been women.
Before I was just jumping to the conclusion
that this was some crypto brain, like Elon Musk guy.
Maybe they're gifts.
Maybe their weird dad gave them cyber trucks.
Right, right.
All right, some things that crossed over
that we probably don't need.
I don't think I need to have explained to me.
Demure, we've talked about it.
Jules LeBron and Demure.
A real crossover from the world of TikTok.
Chapel Rhone, I mean,
crossed over into the dang Saturday Night Live.
Proud of my bitch.
Proud of her, love her, seeing her live, incredible.
Were you a pre-Co Coachella chapel fan? I
Absolutely fucking was I've been here
Yeah, that's a huge thing. I always see people saying like you wasn't there before Coachella
So is that kind of what everybody kind of like that's how you demonstrate your chapel cred is like I was on that shit before April
Yeah, I feel like because I was actually following her for years during kovat
She really was going I mean not she was going she became independent during kovat because her label dropped her
And she was really trying to get her shit off the ground by herself
But also she was going through a lot of mental health stuff
Like she was very vulnerable on her tik-tok talking about her bipolar diagnosis and like lots of stuff and she kind of used to talk
to like cope with all of the stuff,
like the world and everything.
And so she was like releasing all her music on Tik Tok.
She like went through the process of like making her making it, um,
naked in Manhattan video and my King is my karma on Tik Tok.
And so that's like when I hopped on the train. So that's probably like 2022.
And then I feel like Coachella is like though when
it was like but it was a beautiful definition of like a true slow burn like making art doesn't
happen in a day like being viral you know takes years in the making right like it's what you do
with that viral moment but like the the I don't know the gravity of your talent is beyond the viral moment like you will sustain
Beyond if you are actually talented and she is and I I love her. I saw her at acl. It was incredible like
I will go see her again. I think you're totally right. She is that like 10 year overnight success
Where it's like we all just found out about her or the world just found out about her
But yeah, she's great, but she got signed at 17, you know
So she's like been making music and we have all the tic tacs from like the last four years or however many years
Before she got famous like before there was this huge lens on her
And so it's like we kind of feel like we know the real her quote. Yeah, right
I was like she had the song of the summer pink pony club that song was new and it really made her famous
It's new to me, but it was wild to that is like a good the first story you learn
About her is that she turned in pink pony club and her label was like no. Thank you
Such a fun fuck out my office
Yeah, that's long and it's very interesting to listen to her music before pink pony club because it is more I feel like sad and dark and raspy and soulful
Because it's interesting probably what the label pushed her to be they're like well you have this really like
Belty deep voice like why don't you do something like,
in this like, kind of like indie, like rock genre.
And it is kind of cool to see when she became independent
how different her music had changed into
and how receptive people were,
cause it was like more organic to what she wanted to make.
So I'm proud of Chappell.
It's been really cool to watch her blow up.
And like, people should respect celebrities.
I think like TikTok has
created fandoms that are scary. And not that Twitter didn't already do that. But I feel like
the boundaries are like gone now, which we've talked about a lot in school choices and stuff.
It's like boundaries are just, it's scary. Yeah. Well, I mean, I remember that's when I first
really kind of paying attention to her because when she was really being adamant, she's like,
dude, the second my life starts getting weird because people pulling up on me like it's a wrap
And I was like, yeah, I know what that I don't know
That's pretty difficult to do but the fact that you are that aware of it and are
Treating your personal life and your family like as sort of sanctified. I thought was very that's not a thing you hear often
Where they're like, I don't need it that bad
Yeah, people are mad that she's like internet savvy like she's not like someone with a team
that's like oh you know you should post like this or talk to your friends like
this. She's like I've been here I built this shit from the ground up and I'm a
set my boundaries and I'm like you go. And you can shoot my face from both sides.
With Chaperone with Jules Lebron of demure fame with things like all of us saying cunt now at work
You know, it really goes back and proves that great wisdom from Samantha Jones of sex in the city to paraphrase
First come the gays then come the girls then everybody
And last the 40-something white guys, everybody. Tell me about tick-tock
Alright last year like spring steam. Yeah
It's got real Billy Joel vibes and that's what I think is cool here really
Okay, so back to some things that did not cross it over into my
Okay, so back to some things that did not cross over into my
TikTok void brain show me to me Rachel
Okay, I really thought this happened last year I was texting me about it and I was like I didn't put this on this cuz I could have sworn but that's right
That's a brain rot. I feel cuz I'm like I'm so on the internet like flipping through trends
I'm like is when did this happen? like flipping through trends. I'm like is
When did this happen? But anyway, show me to me Rachel. It was very funny because basically
This girl had like seen this meme on Twitter or something basically saying that Jesus had landed like
Like the world like he was a real person and that someone had a photo of him and his and her mom like so religious. Like an Avenger? Just like, boom.
Yeah.
And like her mom is-
Did he land with like one knee down
and the fist coming around?
Literally, yeah.
Something like that.
And then her mom was like,
show me to me.
Like she was so excited to see that Jesus was real,
that she was like,
like she couldn't even say, show it to me, Rachel.
Oh, so her circuits got fried
and it was like on some like,
I want to go to their kind of shit.
Yes, this girl is fully trolling her mom.
Jesus was seen. Where, this girl is fully trolling. Jesus, it was seen.
Where Rachel? Oh my God. Show me to me please. Send it to me Rachel. It was literally seen
in Ohio. Please send it to me. No. Yes. Oh my God. Send it to me baby. This is horrible. Oh she's crying for the Lord.
Rachel, don't do that.
That's so fucked up.
Damn.
That's fucking awful.
Incredible work to be that.
That is some nasty work.
That is truly some nasty.
Show me, show me Julie Rachel.
I didn't realize that's how she was gonna say it.
I thought it was gonna be more.
Wow.
Okay, now I'm seeing all the lip dubs to the, yep, okay.
Yeah.
That's a winner.
People are like, you don't know the power of Jesus Christ.
You're like, all right, you're right.
This wouldn't be a proper Daily Zeitgeist episode
where we're discussing video
and somehow Jesus Christ's name wasn't over.
Again, the streak continues.
The streak continues.
Brat, I was aware of.
That's Kamala Harris.
Hold the space for defying gravity.
Yeah, Brat is like-
Chicha went viral for being Brat?
What's that?
My little weenie dog teacher teacher
Went by her being brat for Halloween like she was if you know, New York Nico
Famously and New York reporting account. Yeah things that happen in New York
He filmed her at the Fort Greene Fort Ween
Halloween like parade festival for dogs.
Orlando made, my partner made the brat costume.
And yeah, she looked incredible.
She went viral.
What happens when you go viral though?
Like do you get money?
I did have a couple brands reach out to send her stuff.
Wow.
I haven't received the things, but I did.
But they did reach out. But they did reach out.
But they did reach out.
So that was lit.
Wow.
That was Brad.
That was Brad.
And then every time she barked, people were like, well, that's Brad.
So because I'd be like, normally, because she is a loud and annoying, mean creature.
She very feisty.
She will just bark at everybody and everything.
But that day she was allowed because everyone was like well
That's part of her costume. She can't be proud
So overwhelmed taking her around like the city like Brooklyn Manhattan like people were like stopping me like I feel like
Please yeah
Like I felt like a manager. I was like, no pictures, no more pictures, please.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're like, we have an appointment to get to.
New York, being like such a hard city, really loves a cute dog.
That has been my experience.
A little neon green box.
All right.
We don't know if it's a trend, but I've been told by the doc that you guys compiled
that ASMR has gone from being like a thing, like a weird thing
where like, look at what people are watching. So now it's just kind of like bled into like just
people are kind of making it part of what they do. It's just like an accent that other people
are speaking in a little bit. How I feel it's evolved. Like you'll see, you know, at least on
my feed,
I've got beauty influencers and they're clacking their nails
on their foundation bottle.
Right.
Oh, you're right.
Yeah, that's definitely part of the culture now.
Right.
Or like cooks, you just hear like the glug, glug, glug
of the olive oil, like tinkle, tinkle, tinkle.
Like it's just like, it's part of the video rather than like,
we're just like listening to someone chew food
into a microphone.
Right, the process.
Yeah, that's the only thing, yeah.
Yeah, I watch a lot of subtle ASMR, like cooking, or like cleaning.
A lot of the Korean skincare girlies will do that.
They'll like, it's like all, you can tell the sounds are added in
as they're doing their skincare.
Yeah, and like this one that I think Miles is about to play is like,
this is the one that speaks to my soul
Which is people ordering unhinged drinks at Dunkin Donuts?
Yeah
Okay, so they're putting that look like at least seven six packets of Splenda hmm, but it does have a nice like
But that looks like at least seven, six packets of Splenda.
But it does have a nice like. Shh.
Wait, what is that sugar?
That's the sugar.
Oh, shit.
Sugar on top of Splenda.
On top of blueberry.
Blueberry, vanilla.
Blueberry?
Is that a thing on TikTok as well?
I don't know about.
It's a fruit donut.
This is this is diabolical.
18 French vanilla shots. This is this is diabolical.
18 French vanilla shots.
But yeah, there is kind of a nice.
Oh my God, you're just there.
This is giving me a heart attack.
Oh, look how that is threading.
It is viscous.
I just all ice.
Is this ice after that?
No coffee.
There's no coffee.
They put a little. Yo, no. And just all ice is this ice after that no coffee
Okay, just so you know for those who know the exact order it's a large ice original coffee 18 French vanilla shots
Four coconut shots three vanilla shots two toasted almond shots, two blueberry shots, four Splenda, 19 sugar, and a little bit of skim milk
because I am healthy.
What the?
Try it at home and tell us how it is.
Yeah, or don't.
Yeah, or you're gonna fucking see like streaks of light
like you're on the fucking Millennium Falcon
because you're going into some kind of shock
from all the sugar.
I feel like people just immediately rot, you know? Like, like they hit the sugar hits and is like, wow.
It's like Quentin Tarantino adds like foot fetish shit to it's like you could go to
with your feet or you could watch this art film and also have like a wiki feed
experience. That's exactly what I was thinking, Jack.
Right. Exactly.
I never thought of these like pouring drink videos as ASMR,
but I'll get like local liquor store TikToks
that are like promoting make at home cocktail shit
where it'll be like a buzz ball,
a shot of like a mini like Grey Goose or something.
And then they will add like the little bit of a
goo goo goo goo goo.
Yeah, the sounds.
Yeah, exactly.
And this is a great example of all the different
for you pages we have.
My Korean skincare,
Catherine's Duncan,
and Victor's the local.
Local liquor store glug glug video.
Could I get some local liquor store
glug glug video, please? Yeah, I. Could I get some local liquor store? Glug, glug video, please.
Yeah, I have just I have so much dancing videos.
These are people doing the electric slide in Azara right now.
That's one of the videos I have served up to me right now.
Guys, this has actually been too much tick tock for me,
so I'm going to have to leave at this break.
But I guess I'm the elder.
Yeah. Miles is the elder.
Educate him and he will put it in the context of a boomer ass
filmmakers like Quentin Tarantino.
This actually reminds me of Spielberg in some ways.
Yeah. This is briefly a Brian DePalma vibe
mixed with like Frogger, the video game. But yes, I will let you know when I'm out.
It's giving essence of Sunset Boulevard, this Dunkin' Donuts video.
You mean it's not like Megalopolis?
No, shit. We'll see.
All right, Jack. Well, you be good.
Be safe, Miles. Good luck.
This has been a lot for me.
I'm going to have to lie and say I know all this shit. Damn. You be good. Be safe miles. Good luck. This has been a lot for me
Alright, let's take a break and we'll be right back where now I'm gonna ask some questions. Yeah this bye
And we're back, okay. This is one that when I saw y'all put this on here, I said, what the fuck?
What is cucumber gay?
Okay, I actually didn't know this one.
Just don't know cucumber gay?
This did not hit my FIP.
This is all I saw for like the month of September.
So it's this cute kid who lives, I think in Korea.
And he's an American.
But I didn't know it was called cucumber kid.
I just like watched the videos.
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Becca, you just knew off her description
of this is a white guy who lives in Korea.
You said, oh, I know who you're talking about.
Yes, because he makes a lot of Korean dishes.
And I remember seeing the comments for years,
people being like, this little white boy
be really cooking
That Korean food. Uh-huh wait, and you know too now
Yeah, this is the motherfucker who act like he's coming up with Asian food recipes. I saw one
He's like very authentically like like oh, I've seen ones where people are acting like this shit is the bomb
I don't know. I think I look at it a little bit sweet kind of yeah
I like guy who like it has like this very deep
admiration for Korean culture and like that cooks very authentic Korean food and like Koreans of the comments are like
You cook it look like better than my grandma looks like like that is the vibe
I see I take you on a trip to his local like 7-eleven where I have all these
Delicious foods and he'll bring it back and cook it. How come cucumber gay as a descriptor
or as like the vibe took off?
So colloquially that's what my For You page said
that he was called,
because he went super viral with these videos of
sometimes you need to eat an entire cucumber,
here's the best way to do that.
And he'll do all of these different recipes
where he puts a cucumber in a little plastic thing
with different toppings, shakes it,
and not yum, but of course, fed up.
And then he has a delicious slurpee treat at the end.
He slurps his cucumbers, so there's that.
You know what I think may have happened?
I feel like I saw this video in a vacuum
that didn't explain who he was, where he lives,
or any of that, and it came off as sort of outrage
kind of shit of Asian people being like,
this dude, yeah, we know. why am I getting my recipe from you was sort of the vibe
Yeah, I saw commentary around it, but this makes sense because the internet just does that kind of shit
Okay, so let's see his recipe
To understand there's like a thousand
Okay, you got a mandolin soy sauce
Start by slicing your entire cucumber. Okay, you got a mandolin, soy sauce.
A little sesame oil, some chili crisp vinegar, an entire grated garlic clove, some sesame seeds, and some MSG obviously.
Yeah, you gotta have that.
If you don't like MSG, it makes it so much more flavorful.
And that's it. Make sure you shake it super well.
Oh, I need this right now. I'm a little under weather. I think this is gonna cure me.
Oh yeah, you know he in Korea, he got the metal shot. You got the steel chopsticks. Yeah, I feel like
He went viral because of the mandolin and people started trying to use the mandolin because of this recipe and then they kept cutting
The fucking themselves up. Yes. Well, yeah, there was that too. He had to start saying you're cutting device
It's yeah
And then people were just like and he was also like this isn't my fault that you don't know how to use the mandolin.
Like it's like I just told you you had to use the mandolin.
Yeah, I don't own one for a reason okay because I don't trust myself. I got nails. You got to respect the mandolin.
And I'm not good at chopping. It is my least. I'm a very good cook.
I would say chopping is like my least good skill out of cooking. Really? Yeah. Get your reps in. Is your knife sharp enough?
I think that's part of it
I think I definitely don't have nice enough knives dull just dull a dull knife will slow you the fuck down
Yeah, and it's also technically more dangerous
Yeah, yeah, you put more force so I definitely don't like go
I was in Manhattan the other day and there was a truck that like you could bring your knives to and this guy was just
Professionally sharpening your knives in a truck.
Every farmers market is like that in LA. There's always a knife sharpening dude at the farmers market. Yeah. Some of them they
fuck it up though. And I'm like, you're like, is it worth it?
Yeah, you're like, is my nice knife?
You're not like grinding me a new set of house keys, bro. Like
this is like a bespoke knife I got from Japan. Please don't fuck
it up. Okay, let's see. What's one that we haven't gotten to
that you feel the the listener that we should get to regardless of my ignorance?
I think Becca you have to talk about your weird memes
Okay, okay
So I feel like I'm the only person these are like targeted for my brain
And I feel like specifically kind of like when Victor is bringing up being really high and watching the dark fantasy videos
This is my being really high and I get to serve these videos and they are just like these compilations of like
super weird gay memes and like played against like Lana Del Rey and like other weird soft kind of music and
None of it makes sense and it really is like you have to be chronically online to like
Yes, yeah, okay, because i'm already let's just see uh, and whatever the title is dinner with the cushioners
What why okay? Well, let's just see I fully believe did he kill two
Pfft Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe wild. We have one person. Who is that in the first quote?
Is that Jeffree Star? Oh, that is Jeffree Star. Okay. Yeah, saying I fully believe Diddy killed Tupac.
Then just you're hit with all kinds of visuals. Who's the dude in like the towel, like Las Vegas tank top with like a blood pressure cuff?
Like that guy.
Oh, in the jail cell?
Or like in the- Yeah, yeah, yeah.
This one.
I don't know what this is from,
but basically he's asking if he could get pregnant.
There's this guy, yeah, it was a guy who wound up in prison
and he was just like being very sassy.
He's like, I don't really wanna be here.
And she's like, I'm sorry, you're in prison.
And he's like, but I'm not going to be here.
It was just like very sassy for a long time
about being in prison.
Wow.
And he's really an icon.
I think it's just jail.
Yeah.
It's the only one I don't know about.
There's like Las Vegas show where they just show all the
people they like arrest on the strip.
Cause the guy is wearing like a towel Las Vegas tank top,
but it says like Murillo Mayhem.
Yes.
Like as if he's like maybe on like a family
Yes, yeah. Yeah, where everybody's wearing matching tank tops and maybe he went too hard at the daytime pool party. Yeah, okay
This makes sense. Wait, so you get a bunch of these memes like these mean compilations
Yes, cuz that one creator makes a ton of them
But like I also get served other creators who make these weird meme compilations and that creator is called champagne mommy
Yeah, just for people who love your edits
But I can so many of these fucking weirdos and every time my partner's like what are you watching?
Like he is out of the internet is so different from mine
We couldn't be more different people when it comes to our consumption of the internet
He's like, I don't understand any of this.
And I was like, you're not gay enough.
Sorry.
Like it's just, it's true.
Like it's like, it's very gay, weird culture, all of that stuff.
But it's funny though, too, how like on Tik TOK that the whole sort of like,
here's a compilation of things that are sort of like loosely tied together.
Yes.
But like, but still kind of bring something.
I was, there was one that like last year that like got me
and it was like, it was just so sentimental.
And it was like, I think it was called like Hopecore.
It was like the-
So my boyfriend is on Hopecore.
He loves Hopecore.
See, and I'm not on Hopecore
because I can't be crying like that.
I gotta be laughing.
I need a Teehee. I don't wanna cry. I definitely get served like some Hopecore because I can't be crying like that. I gotta be laughing. I need a tee hee hee.
I don't wanna cry.
I definitely get served some Hopecore things.
A lot of just people fucked up in public
and that kinds of other stuff.
But the hope, but again, it's interesting
how in the language of TikTok, it's kind of similar.
It's like, we can slop together.
You want hope?
Are you more like, are you kind of a Paris is burning vibe?
Let me give you something like that
I gotta find the hope core one cuz it's it's just like the first line that like I was like
Oh my god, and I don't know why I got so manipulated emotionally by it. Oh, here it is. This shit is well
Okay here. This is like again hope core, which is just me meant to give you hope
But that's what you're into. This is just meant to give you hope, but
that's what you're into.
This is just the beginning of like a Hope Corps video.
I saw that, I was like, oh no.
What do you want to do when you grow up?
What do you want to do when you grow up?
I'm going to be a doctor.
How much do you want to make?
I'm going to make people feel okay.
Yes, it's like the same editing style.
Yeah, and then it's just like sort of Quinoa Tskotsi kind of stuff where you're like, oh,
I'm going to make people feel okay. Oh yes it's like the same editing style. Yeah and then it's just like sort of
coinotskotsy kind of stuff where you're showing like the world moving too fast and how we've
like completely lost our connection and it's just like that one kid being like how much do you want
to make he's like i want to make people feel okay and then suddenly as an emotionally repressed man
i'm like oh fuck bro i'm letting it all out on this one, bro. Choose this one.
Yeah, and then I love it when people are like, can't let Gang know I fuck with Hopecore.
They're like, hey bro, what's on your FYP? I don't know bro. What the fuck is it bro? My girl was using my phone, dog.
That's probably how the Hopecore got on there. You know me. Look at this one. This dude's sea walking.
This one, this dude's sea walking.
Catherine, what's one, I know you were calling out Becca's, but what's one for you that we must share with Zeitgang?
And for me, because I don't know much.
This is less of a trend and more of just like
a really interesting thing that happened this year.
So I followed Brian Jordan Alvarez,
who's a queer Latino creator for a long time.
He does like just like silly characters
that he takes very seriously and they're great.
But last year he sold a show to Hulu
and that show is English Teacher, which I just watched.
It's great, it's very fun.
So funny.
Very funny.
And he was like, it was like having trouble,
gaining traction.
And so the New York Times actually just wrote this article
that said to promote his show, he became a meme.
So he started doing this dance to this clip
that's kind of from Gilmore Girls.
It's like a weird show within a show in Gilmore Girls,
but it's with different music than in the original thing.
And he like does this little dance
and he now posts it like 10 times a day
and all of them have a zillion views and now?
English teacher is like a hit show well
It's not I didn't know that was the originator of the like the dance, but then he's now posted like different challenges
He'll just dance to them, but like like shirtless every day
Yeah, like multiple times a day like the one that was like I guess maybe this is a show of the show
And I didn't know cuz I don't watch come on girls but it's the meme that was
like what are you gonna do for my daughter yeah and he's like this is all
I have to offer and it's like cuts to the song it's like yes so let me see
this video cuz in the dock with someone making garlic confit on on Instagram. Oh, um, oh, well, that's Diane
We like her she's an australian. I was like this ain't sick talk. But yeah, he dances shirtless
He just like basically like he like the second it's like, um, this is what I can offer her
He like takes off his shirt and then he just starts dancing
So he did that a bajillion times and then now the gracey abrams song that's like
I can't think I can't think but the gracey abrams song the one that's like woohoohoo do do do do I can't sing, I can't sing
but the Gracie Abrams song, the one that's like
I made it out alive, I yelled it from my coffin
do do do do do do
so anyway he's like soulfully looking at the camera
looking so sad, looking he's gonna cry
he's just like, yeah
and then he just starts running and taking his shit off
and then he's like running away and dancing
it's like a new version of his old meme Okay, this man feel old as shit cuz everything else said I'm like I know Gilmore girls
Brian Jordan Alvarez
Let's see. Let's see Brian Jordan Alvarez. What is it? I love your daughter. Yeah, what's the okay? Thank you. Here we go
your daughter. What do you have to offer her? Nothing. Only this. Oh, wow. He really just... But usually he takes his shirt off.
Yeah, he usually does, but we're not getting that this time. But he's at the airport, so
he did not... Oh, normally he takes his shirt off.
Normally he fully takes his shirts off and he dances.
Okay. Okay. I'm in. Yeah. So he's like a content creator who became a person with a TV show who had to use like online content to promote it
Like it's such a full. That's pretty genius. Well. He's been in the comedy writing scene for years
Yeah, he had his own YouTube show for a long time right he was Caleb Gallo if you were that deep in the internet
Though I think it's like the wondrous life of Caleb Gallo.
Love that show.
It's very meme-ified.
It shows up on TikTok all the time.
And then now he had an English teacher,
which the writing isn't wonderful.
You should watch it.
I really do love it.
Yeah.
Boom.
Well, I feel, I guess older, but also a little bit wiser.
Because now I've dispelled my anger at cucumber gay.
I've seen the full circle.
I'm up to the trauma candy salad dump shit.
It's so fucking the most
great explanation of shit ever.
We truly have no privacy anymore.
Like you really.
Also, we need serious like help.
You know what I mean?
Like I totally get that this that can be like
cathartic for people too but I think that's because we're contending with so
much of all kinds of every dimension of chaos possible in someone's life at the
same time so well there's no mental health support so this is this is another
way to get it all out it's yeah that shit is I'm I'm gonna I'll see if I can
get through the whole thing the first fucking four
I was like floored. No, they're all crazy. They're all like they all get worse
You're like, yeah
Cuz you see like even with like the suspect challenge like you would see people kind of do that too
We're like they would like but it was in reverse because someone else was calling you out on your
Like oh, they're gonna break up
Anyway people look up suspect challenge calling you out on your trauma and shit. Oh, they're gonna break up. Yeah, yeah.
Anyway, people look up Suspect Challenge.
See the toxic couples that do the Suspect Challenge
and you're like, oh.
Ooh.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
And again, for the brief version,
someone's holding the camera,
the person on camera is running,
and you do a version like you're on police raid
and go, Suspect got a bad wig on,
but people think that shit is natty. you know stuff like that and just be very shady but anyway
thank you all for this uh moment of illumination education information uh producer bae thank
you so much for being here producer becca thank you so much for being here producer
catherine thank you so much for being here uh do y'all want to let people know where they
can check you out if interested maybe even you know i don for being here. Do y'all want to let people know where they can check you out?
If interested, maybe even you know, I don't know if y'all
posted your favorite videos there. But anyway, I just want
to give you all the opportunity to let people know.
Yeah, you can find me at Bex, B-E-C-C-S, Ramos on all
platforms, including TikTok. I do not post on TikTok. I very
blatantly post in my bio that I lurk and shitpost.
So you'll only see me repost all my funniest shit,
but you won't catch me trauma dumping.
You've never posted?
Oh, you know what, when I get those alerts, it's-
I barely post.
I'll do like one to year.
Right, right, right.
I'll do my little Halloween post,
and because I love to dress up in a costume,
so I'll post my one edit of a Halloween costume
and that's basically it.
I too am a lurker only on TikTok.
So I'll give you my Instagram.
I am at Katha Elizabeth, C-A-T-H-A.
I'm like the end of Elizabeth and that's me.
May?
I don't have TikTok.
I'm also a lurker on like Instagram,
but yeah, my handle is imperial.concubine.
Hey.
Everyone.
Can I see Bape pop up on my Instagram?
Shit goes so hard.
I like her work.
I like her work.
It's Bape, I'm like, oh my God.
Yeah.
Imperial concubine.
I've been trying to make a new work one,
but you know, this is the one we're working on right now.
You know what I mean?
No, build a brand.
We say content work now, so it's fun.
Yeah, it's different.
We work in podcasting, okay?
Great job.
I think it's fine.
At first I thought it was a little racy, but it's fine.
No, no, no, no.
It's historical, it's historical.
And then SoundCloud.
Bey, bey, bey, B-I-B-I-B-E-I.
Bey, bey, bey.
Yeah.
Exactly.
We also have musicians, okay?
A lot of people make music on this show.
You know where Jack and I are at, Miles of Grey, jack underscore O'Brien or jack ob1
on Blue Sky.
He's still figuring that Blue Sky handle out though, in real time.
It's all right.
It's all right.
We all work at our own pace.
All right.
Thanks y'all.
Thank you so much for listening to this episode.
We'll be back with more.
I hope y'all are having a great break and I hope you learned something and you can talk
to your step kids like you're cool now.
All right.
Bye.
Bye.
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