The Daily Zeitgeist - Tech Oligarch Erection Contest, Biden Futility Fetish 01.24.25

Episode Date: January 24, 2025

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I don't like for me, like hanging stuff on a wall. Like I don't even know what I just get so freaked out. I don't know why, because I think you got to like look for the stud or something. And then I just take a nap. Yeah. Stud finder. Yeah. But like I'm hanging up something.

Chris, you're going to need a stud finder for that. No, it's, it's, it's a disorder. So I'm like, I'm one of those guys that's like a milk crate and like a flesh light. That's your room decor. Yeah. And the flesh lights just provide, I don't use it. Yeah. Yeah. It's actually what you use for a reading light. Yeah, it's just, yo, yo, my God, do they have a light? They don't actually have a light, do they? I always assumed they did. I'm realizing they don't just because it's just, yeah, it's just, yo, yo, my God, do they have a light? They don't actually have a light. Do they? I always assumed they did.

I'm realizing they don't just because it's just a fun play on a flashlight. But right. It's a flashlight. I always assume they lit up like when you fucked them for some. No, they, they don't light up, man. They stay dark and you can't see your come inside of it. Oh, weird. How do you clean?

Thank you. Jocquise. Welcome. Chris, have you met Jekese before? Oh, Jekese. Okay. Yeah, you, Chuck. We see Chris. Have you met your keys before? Oh, Jackie's. Okay. Yeah, we have met. It's been ages though. It's been a minute.

Brain wipe coming up. Brain wipe. You remember, I'd cast from I heart. Someone talked about it in the comments. Jackie's my brain was when I first started coming on the show and I came was in the studio and I had so much cold brew and no food. And like I lost my mind during the show and I came was in the studio and I had so much cold brew and no food and like I lost my mind during the show and we had to stop it and I had to eat a hard boiled egg. Like for real, like I was like, uh, uh, uh, uh,

oh, gee days in studio days, studio days. Should we go back? What do we Kirkland cold brew? Kirkland cold brew. I always got the best snacks there. I miss that hard boiled eggs there. That is, that was our most popular snack. Hard boiled eggs in a jar. I eat them plain next to my flashlight. You actually store them in your flashlight? Lately on the NPR Politics Podcast, we're talking about a big question. How much can one guy change?

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This is my legacy. Hello, the internet and welcome to season 372, episode four of Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. We now have a YouTube channel that you can go check out, Daily Zeitgeist Pod. We drop an episode a week. I think one is dropping today. So go check it out. See what we look like while we're saying stuff like this.

It's Friday, January 24th, 2025. My name is Jack O'Brien aka I watched Jaws a hundred times and I would watch 100 more just to be the kid who watches Jaws a hundred times before he's four. Da da da da or da da da da da da da da da. Could go either way with the chorus to that one, courtesy of Richard B360 on the Discord in honor of my first identity, the kid who watched Jaws a hundred times. That was the first thing that I was known for as a human being. I'm very proud.

I was like, man, I've seen Jaws so many times, you guys. It was like what my cousins knew about me. They're like, oh, Jackie, you still like Joles? I still remember that people from, because of this identity, I still know that people from Philadelphia pronounce Jaws as the plural of Joel. You still like Joles? Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined in our second seat in the miles seat by an award winning podcast host writer, producer, comedian and actor hosts the must see live

comedy show comedian clash. In a comedian feud. Is that right? Used to be a comedian feud. Now it's comedian clash, which has a couple shows coming up at sketch fest. He's got a lot going on at SketchFest. It's J'Kee Sneal! You make me wanna leave the one away and start a new relationship with you. What if I just sing Usher? Just sing the song. Don't change anything. I don't change anything. I just sing at this point, the situations

I control. That's it. And that's all I give you. That's one of my favorite AKA writers. I think it's Halcyon Salad does this and Hannah Soltis, two of our great AKA writers, will do like a whole verse of a song and then change a single word at the end. Just one single word. That saves you a copyright. I always love it.

What up, Negroes? How we doing? How we living? What's going on, Chikies? You got a busy weekend coming up, man. We do, man. I'm at SketchFest. You know, listen, I know there are some people

who once we start saying the goodbyes, they tune out. So I wanna promote this right up top. I'm at SketchFest all weekend. This weekend, January 25th, 26th, I got four shows. Comedian Clash, we got names like Lamar, Morris in the house, Paula, Tompkins in the house, Tone Bell, Dulcé Sloan. We even got Amy Schneider from Jeopardy fame.

What the fuck? Like this is crazy. And then if you want to see me high as fuck, coming to pass that blunt, all black improvisers, we are improvising an hour of comedy, high as hell. It is going to be a beautiful time. Come out to SketchFest. I might even fuck you. Don't tell my girlfriend.

I'll just might fuck you. Your girlfriend has spent this week promoting your shows. She has been. Listen, we may fuck you. We may fuck you. Wow. And that's funny. You know, that's what I'm saying.

You want to come have a threesome. Yeah. Just come to three of my shows. Everybody who comes I'm saying. You wanna come have a threesome. Yeah. Just come to three of my, everybody who comes to three of my shows gets to have a threesome. Gets to have a threesome. With me and my girlfriend who has been on this show so many times.

That is legally binding. Now that you're getting this. That's legally blinding. Legally, legally. Legally binding. We will legally blind you with our beautiful bodies. Medically blinding. Hell yes. Because of some weird shit that they're into.

I can't wait for somebody to send her a clip of this. And she texts me like, did you say you will fuck somebody in San Francisco? And you're like, no. Yeah, I'm going to deny it. I'm like, I don't know what the fuck you talking about. What? No. There's no way to find out if that's true, because it is. Yeah, there is. Because it is.

There's too many Daily Zite guys. It's also the golden age of lying. So it's exactly like which episode was that? Nice try. Go find it. Go find it. All right. Well, J'Kees. Yes, sir. Good luck at SketchFest. Sounds like it's going to be a blast. Zeit Gang, go out, represent as you always do.

Tickets are selling out. They might be sold out before the end of the weekend, so get your tickets now. Hurry, hurry. J'Kees, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious stand-up comedian, actor, musician. You can listen to his podcast, Cold Brew Got Me Like Anywhere, I think you mentioned this. It was so bad with the book and I'll get a good chunk of this, but it's finally done and it should be out in like a year or two. I think it's going to be a good deal. I think it's going to be a good deal.

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like I have the files done, but then it takes two months to go up. But when I talk, when I, when I have it up, I certainly will tell. I was just excited last week because we had it done, you know, and it's just unbelievable how much time it takes. It's just crazy. I don't know how anybody, I mean, if you don't have a friend who has a music studio, I was just excited last week because we had it done. You know, it's just unbelievable how much time it takes. It's just crazy. I don't know how anybody, I mean,

if you don't have a friend who has a music studio, I just can't imagine. It's like a, and even if you do have a friend, they'll end up enraged at you. Because they're like, this took 50 hours. I could have recorded- Hey man, could I sneak in there and read for 17, 18 hours? Yeah, I could have recorded nine Modest Mouse records

To use a current band that I know about. The hot new band Modest Mouse. It's Chris motherfucking Crofton! Okay, after Jekesa's like extremely sexy truly one of our great aka here's mine that someone sent me. Oh Aka here's mine. If someone sent me, Oh, Chris Crofton, how do you say Oh, Christmas tree? Yes, Crofton. Oh, Chris Crofton. Oh, Chris Crofton.

Oh, Chris Crofton. He really like his cold brew. He has a book. It's for your ears. Production took a couple of years. Oh, Chris Crofton. Wow. Chris Crofton. He really likes his cold brew. for your ears production took a couple years.

Oh, Chris Crofton. Wow. Chris Crofton. He really likes his cold brew. Damn. So thank you, Sam O'Dell for the world's least sexy AKA. Love it. That I thought, you know what, that was beautiful. Don't, don't let nobody tell you that was, I pictured you singing that with a,

with a snifter of eggnog in a nice sweater by a roaring fire. Yeah. And it made me horny. It gave me a good erection according to- All it takes is to make one person wet. One person wet and it's sexy. Well, I might as well promote something up top too

because you're promoting SketchFest. So come to me. Please do. Come today, tonight, when this is up, because this will be up tomorrow, right? Yeah. Yeah. Friday. So I mean, it's up today.

We're. Oh, I forgot. I mean, yeah, today. Okay. Today. It's Friday. It's Friday. So tonight.

Yeah, I think we need more. Yeah, Go ahead. Oh, I'm just gonna be a Lincoln Lodge on the eight o'clock show That's in Chicago. Yeah, I'm so excited It's I've been having a lot of fun in Chicago is so sure y'all better show out. Don't do me wrong Chicago keep the good vibes going. That's the only thing. It's very, very cold. My comment that your song gave me a powerful erection was a reference to a story that we're going to be covering.

Maybe later? Now we have to get to it. Oh, yeah. Unfortunately. But- I'm exhausted, so I'm not going to do some show takeover or any kind of thing like that. All right. Chris, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about.

We're definitely going to talk about that Brian Johnson guy, the like, I want to live forever guy who, you know, used his 18 year old son as a blood bag and now is tweeting out images of the like metrics from his, from an app he uses to track both his boner and his 18 year old son's boner, nighttime erections. And he's just like flexing on everybody being like, you can't even tell the difference. We both have great nighttime boners. Anyways, I just want to look at that story and ask the question, should Democrats have maybe stuck with a, these guys are weird thing? I don't know.

It seems like that was resonating for a reason. He's not really connected to the Trump thing. He's just like a tech built, you know, tech oligarch weirdo. But I just feel like there is a overall consensus that in addition to being corrupt, that it feels like we should be able to just be like, look at how, what. But anyway. Yeah. No, the Nazis were- Strange.

Yeah, yeah. And that's, but of course none of this is rational. It's all just about control, period. White people wanting to be in control and not having to be told that they can't be mean to women and all these crazy things that they think are God given fucking rights. They're not given, right? Yeah. It's, but that is, yeah, that's taking away for, you know, some time or even being threatened, they, they get so mad.

They're so mad. They're so mad. They can't stop their, their body from doing a Nazi. Like they're trying to hold it in and they just like can't stop. No, for like one year. Yeah. People were like, you should stop doing mean jokes about women. And they were like, we will overthrow the world and destroy everything.

Yeah. Overthrow everything and become full Nazis because you said that. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about, I just want to talk about this one thing that Biden tried to do. I suspect that Biden had a futility fetish or something because he loved to do things and then have them not work out, it seems like. And so there was just this one thing he did on the way out with the Equal I tried. Yeah, exactly. He wants, like, he thinks he gets all the point. He gets full credit for at least I tried. Hey man, at least I tried Jack.

I tried Buster Jack. Buster Jack. No malarkey there. So we'll talk about that and the consequences. Buster Jack. All of that, plenty more. But first Chris Crofton, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history?

Well, I, this is not, I think we can't like play it, but do you remember yesterday? I was remembering that clip from a long time ago, viral video from before. Like, so I think it was long enough ago that it wasn't like viral properly, but it was just got passed around. Was that. Video of the two people jogging in Portland in the snow, those two white people, and they're both like, this is the ideal kind of snow to jog in. And they're like, it's just dry snow and, and, um, and it's just perfect.

It cushions you just right. And then they on camera, they jog away and, and the lady falls down. The lady who said lady falls down. The lady who said falls down while in the perfect snow. Yeah. And it's like, for me, it was like a metaphor for like, these people just like to hear the sound of their own voice. And some local news person asked them what they were doing jogging in the snow. And they made up this unbelievably pompous and absurd explanation for how

they knew this snow was the best snow for jogging. And then, and I think that's sort of like, people really like the sound of their own voice and, and, and made up narratives like this snow is perfect for jogging and we're not going to fall down because we're white. And then, and also just because they're like, also just like sort of superior. Cause they're like, you know what? Most people think running and snow is a bad idea. Yeah.

But there is something. Yeah. Yeah. But we went to Brown university and our parents are both rich and we're, we're hot, so we can like, both hot. That is snow doesn't apply to snow. The way they talk is, is important. I think we need to play this. Unfortunately. So we can like, they are both hot. That is snow doesn't apply to snow. The way they talk is, is important.

I think we need to play this unfortunately. So good folks. Yeah. The short version though, cause there's a long version where they have a. Have the 42nd one. Yeah, that's it's great. While you're pulling that up. I also love the idea of somebody truly thinking, you know, there is people that

think this, that the reason I can't slip in snow is because my foot grip is superior to the Negro. Actually. They feet slip too easily. Mm-hmm, definitely. It's because they didn't stay slaves long enough. But it's definitely, for me,

it's like them saying the same thing about fascism. Actually, fascism is perfect to jog in. It's like you don't- thing about fascism. Like actually fascism is perfect to jog in. It's like you don't- And until they're proven wrong. All right, here we go. You can't say. We're just talking by and we're nice to just stop for a quick second.

And I said, what are you doing running? And you're saying it was really good out? It's the perfect texture for running. Very low impact on its dry snow, so your feet don't get wet. What have you seen while you've been out running? It's been a lot of fun. There's a lot of other runners

and more skiers than runners for sure. I think they've got a little bit of the advantage with the whole stride and glide thing but it's too nice to not be out here. Keep on the run. Sorry to have kept you but I appreciate you guys talking with us. All right, thanks. We've seen a lot of people out here like you said running, sledding, just enjoying it. One thing... I can't believe you've never seen this, Jack. Oh, I've seen it. It's so good. Oh, okay.

Oh, I've seen it. I just needed the listener to hear the context of their answer to understand. Yeah. I mean, it's just the perfect footfall, the perfect... It reminded me of like, you know, like... Sorry. And then for the description, it takes like an amazing fall, like slide feet fly out from under her.

She could have broken a bone. Like it was not a small right on her back and neck and head. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like all, all parts of the back of her body all at the same time. And it was perfect too, because the camera didn't stay on the newscaster. It follows them on their run.

Camera man was like, you know, this lady's going to fall down. Let's just see them, you know, take off for the first 10 yards. And in that perfect 10 yards, she ate every amount of shit that she could. Every piece of shit. Yeah, all they had to do is make it like out of sight and she could have fallen down like eight times and they still would have been fine. But they just had, she made a five more feet. And it reminded me of like Hillary Clinton or have been fine, but they, they just had. She made a five more feet.

And it reminded me of like Hillary Clinton or something being like, you know, I don't know, it just, it just kind of resonated like the same kind of talking that like we need to, like, all we need to do is say this shit and then we'll get elected and, uh, like, you know, magical thinking, I guess. Yeah. Smug. And to be clear when she fell, it looked like it hurt and she laid on that ground. Like it hurt. So let that be a warning.

Yeah. Stop talking all that shit people. Cause when you fail, it's going to hurt. I mostly cause I'm gonna come punch you in the nuts. That's right. Chris, what is something that you think is underrated? Oh, underrated first. Uh, I was going to say recognizing Nazi salutes.

And I, what, what is that in the con? Is that a reference to something I've missed in the news? I not familiar recognizing Nazi salutes. And then I also said acknowledging death because, um, I just can't believe we're letting all these 80 year olds who are like with their last breaths abuse us. Like I don't, I just don't all because all because capitalism doesn't want to acknowledge death is bad for business.

Like, and, and, and, and the fact that we are, that someone accumulates $400 billion is such a disorder, such an obvious illness. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, and it's, and it's, you know, when I got a health scare this year, I thought I had lung cancer, everything halts, all your money is useless. All your, I mean, all it takes. I mean, all it takes is like acknowledging that you're a human to understand how stupid it is to hoard enough wealth that you are ruining the whole

planet's lot. I mean, destroying, I mean, it's just, we don't, I mean, I'm just, all I'm thinking about is how big these villains are and how much, how unfortunate it is that humans are so easily deceived, but that's part of our, part of our, you know, we're put here to be easily deceived. You know, I don't know how to, you know, I don't know what's the plan here. I mean, death is obviously like the whole thing's a crazy equation, what we're

living through. Yeah. But acknowledging it. Kind of like this perfect storm now that they've like, tech has linked up with like the capital, you know, the rich old money like power. And now it's just like this perfect storm of like, we're gonna solve all the problems

that capitalism hasn't been able to solve up to this point. We're gonna fly to Mars so that we don't need the environment. We're gonna fix death so that we live forever and we'll like it really is. But in the meantime we're just really stealing money because none of those things are gonna fucking happen. We're not anywhere near any of those things. Elon Musk is so firmly on the ground he's everywhere on the ground. He's nowhere near Mars. He's not even right. He's no, those rockets he has doing flips are nowhere near Mars. None of it.

It's all, it's all a grift by people who are fucking insane. Like, but I mean, clinically insane. And, and, and, uh, anyway, sorry, I'm going crazy. Like Dr. Strangelove, I do just want to, like, I, I, it's a, it's a well-known movie, but I feel like if, if you're out there and you're like, this movie is black and white, I've not watched it because it's black and white and old. And like, it's, it's wild. How many things, like I think about it every day now because of something that's happening in the news, but ultimately,

like it's about, they find themselves in the situation where they're in control of a decision that would end life on the planet. And they're ultimately like, we should end life on the planet and repopulate things ourselves in a cave because then we get to have sex and be like powerful. But also the, the performance of the titular character is so reminiscent of what Elon Musk is physically doing on that stage. It's, it's so fucking weird. Well, you can look at those things.

Yeah, that movie's amazing. And then, and you can look at like, you can actually look, we've been around long enough or technology has been around long enough that you can look at, um, like newsreels from like the 1800s, like late 1800s of like people, you know, wearing tall hats, like walking around Paris or whatever on cobblestones. And, you know, you can realize that every single person in that video, every single one of them is dead and, uh, and and you know, like, so there will be a time where, you know, you don't, there's, there's no urgency. That's the thing is just this urgency, this false urgency.

Like we need to do this now and we need to, we need a, a AI. We can't like, we can't let everybody like get ahead of us on AI. It's like, get ahead of what you guys are the ones can't let everybody like get ahead of us on AI. And it's like, get ahead of what you guys are the ones that, well, you're, there's no urgency, there's no one competing. You're the same five guys in every country pushing this AI. There's no competition. You guys are just pushing a grift where you get tons of money.

You know, there's no AI is not essential to anything. It doesn't help anybody. It's garbage that you guys are pushing because you can get funding and it may or just, it's just a startup. Everything's just a scam to raise money for these five dudes that are completely unevolved. And, and I know we're at a point where that's starting to dawn on everybody, which, you know, I wish it just, you know, I wish, I wish it could have happened

before they already had all the money, but. Yeah. I wish it could have happened before they already had all the money. Yeah. I think we're maybe underestimating like how powerful they are and how like this is like that they're, you know, Elon Musk is the richest person who's ever lived. And probably like at a certain point, people are going to be like that, you know, we can't do this anymore. So it's going to be like generationally his name is going to go down in history.

Like the, because of this, like one, like Attila the Hun. Yeah. be like generationally his name is going to go down in history. Like the, because of this, like one. Yeah. Because of like this one period in history where like we didn't have safeguards in place and the tech industry just like created these people who were richer than entire nations. And it's going to like shape the next a hundred years. I wish I could be a, like, I think the fun of this the fun of this is gonna be a thousand years from now

going over Like this period will be really fun because they'll just be like holy fuck these people are fucking stupid fucking disaster I mean look at these fools. Yeah all because they got a machine that takes pictures in their pocket Yeah, that is pretty cool, and they love images of themselves Yeah. All because they got a machine that takes pictures in their pocket. Yeah. That is pretty cool though. And they love images of themselves. And I guess they never read the story of narcissists, the myth, but you know, who I don't, I didn't really either.

I just know the outline. Like there's all these like weird historical coincidence, like not coincidences, but like for instance, like all these religious figures were alive around the same time. All these like scientific figures were alive around the same time, all these like scientific figures were alive around the same time. Like, so like Jesus and like Confucius and like all these people around the world, you know, like there, there were just like forces that made it possible and made it make sense for them to all like kind of come about at the same time. And I feel like we're dealing with like the worst possible version of that, where

we've got these like tech generation, like literally generationally wealthy tech figures who are going to be like generations from now are going to have to be dealing with the shit. Let me just tell you quickly though, Jack, just to back up. I want to tell you in case you're not familiar with the story of Narcissus, he pushed a huge rock up a hill. Yeah, that's the one. And it just kept going back down.

And then he had this painting in the attic that got old, but he didn't get old. Yeah. And yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the one. So I just wanted to. I thought you hadn't read it. It sounds like you're an expert.

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You can find us on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. And we're back and Chris, we do like to ask our guests also what something you think is overrated. Oh, did I do that? Man, I forgot that that was so deep. I are so sad when I just brought up that I forgot. That was your underrated. That was, yeah, that sucks.

Dad or whatever. Yeah. Oh, oh, good death. Um, overrated. First of all, I'm 13 years sober today. If anyone wants to reach out to me about sobriety, I'm always open to that. I also used to have a really good time drinking. So I'm not, you know, I just can't do it anymore, but I'm not like, if you do drink, you know, and you're having fun, that rules, I wish I could drink. Cause now it seems like it'd be a really good time to, if you do drink, you know, and you're having fun, that rules. Sure.

I wish I could drink cause now it seems like it'd be a really good time to drink. Yeah. Um, if you were good at it, but I'm not. So I've been sober for 13 years. And so I'm, I'm very grateful for the support. I'm grateful for the zeitgeist for allowing me to talk about it, even though it's not the most entertaining topic all the time, I'll never forget that. Remember the live one, Jack, where we had that one about the year 2000?

Yeah, and you asked me like it was in person and and and and we had the chat in front of us on a big screen And it was like blazing by all the like, hello Jack or whatever. Yeah. Yeah, just a live comment section. Whatever the fuck it said. Yeah, like all this shit going by. Yeah, it was overwhelming. And I said, Jackie's I I said, they said, what's overrated. I said, alcohol. And some, I just saw a comment that just said, I paid $10 to go to an AA meeting, which I saw. And I said, I am so sorry. If I was still drinking, I'd be so angry right now. So, uh, anyway, but if you are having any trouble, uh, please DM me on Instagram or whatever, I'm happy to talk anytime.

Yeah. But overrated, I would say looking at maps because I will tell you, having any trouble, please DM me on Instagram or whatever. I'm happy to talk anytime. Yeah. But overrated, I would say looking at maps because I will tell you, I went to, I did a show on the way to, um, Chicago in Kirksville, Missouri, and it was absolutely a blast, but if I had known where Kirksville, Missouri was, I would never have gone because I don't, I was like, Missouri, how far can it be? Well, it's not

close based. Like I'll stop by that state on my way to other state is a yeah. Well, here's the problem was like, it's not how far Kirksville was, but that I, did I, I just on my own decided it was on the way to Chicago. It's not. Yeah. So I like, they kept saying, we can't believe you came. We can't believe you came. And I was like, I don't see what the big deal is. It's on the Yeah. So I like they kept saying, we can't believe you came. We can't believe you came.

And I was like, I don't see what the big deal is. It's on the way to Chicago. And they said, no, it's not. I found that out. But it ended up because it was eight hours to Kirksville from Nashville. I was thinking St. Louis was like the top of the state or something. So that's five hours. So I had no idea it was eight hours. Yeah. But I don't care. I'm down for an adventure. That's the other thing is like, I want to kind of know where I'm going, but I find out when I put it in the machine, you know, so eight hours, but then I didn't check what happens from Kirksville to Chicago. So I said to my friends in Chicago, like I'll be done in Kirksville, like probably morning of Thursday.

So I'll be up. Um, do you think that's like 35, 40 minutes or whatever it is Monday? I was like, I'll be up there in like three and a half hours or whatever. Yeah. I mean, I think it's like, I think it's like, Iksville, like probably morning of Thursday. So I'll be up. Um, we think that's like 35, 40 minutes, whatever it is Monday. I was like, I'll be up there in like three and a half hours or whatever. And then I looked at the thing. It's like six hours, another six. Yeah.

Yeah. And that's when it really gets you the second leg of the trip. But it was so great. And I, I don't want to hype Kirksville, but everywhere I go, I want to move there. If there's like one nice person there. Cause that's especially cause I'm so fucking mad at Nashville. Yeah. So I'm like, oh, boy, oh, boy, this place rules.

Maybe I'll move here. And they're like, well. Yeah, there's a couple of things you should know. They were like all 40. All of us want to move out. All 40 people, the 40 people in this room are the only cool 40 people. We all know each other by name. Also, if you come, you have to bring a woman.

Oh Jesus. That's so like, there are no, do not come here single. Yeah. It's like, it's like a club. They're like, uh-uh. I mean, it's just, they're just telling, filling me in like, Hey, this isn't near Chicago. You don't want to move here.

But I had so much fun because it's a farm town that has a university and, and that a great college radio station, it was like playing M and M and shit. It was so fun. You know, it felt like, it felt like an item, not opposed to finding small communities, like moving somewhere where you can feel fucking sane, you know? So I, I don't think that that is self-preservation. There's no shame in like being like Nashville is becoming a, you know, a venture capital nightmare.

If I'm just trying to figure out like I could fight that I ran for office, but I'm not gonna win. I am not gonna win that battle. Nashville wants it to be the powers that be in Nashville are not this is I'm not nobody's turning this around. So I was just like, Kirk'sville maybe not, you know, it's not as close to Chicago as I thought. But but anyway, maybe maybe maybe you'll have a nice little apartment there where rent is 272 dollars yeah six guys got together and rented a storefront

in the old like town square that used to sell like grain and stuff and they just rent a storefront and have shows in there they just put up some Christmas lights and they have a coffee maker and it was amazing and they had a great band that played. And it turns out that Truman University in that area is like a liberal arts college. Like there was a public school, so it was cheap, but it was a liberal arts model. So it was like kind of like a way for people who couldn't afford a fancy, you know, go to fucking Harvard or I don't know what a liberal arts school is, but you know what I mean? Like it was like an artsy college for at a public price. So that's interesting.

And then, um, on top of that, an hour away in I, in Iowa, that's how close I was. I was like, Oh, I'm right by, it's right near Nashville. Yeah. Iowa. Um, so Iowa has a town called Fairfield, Iowa. That's the center of transcendental meditation. It was like built around that. That was an hour away from Kirksville. So I, I didn't really know there was like these's the center of transcendental meditation. It was like built around that. That was an hour away from Kirk's field.

So I just, I didn't really know there was like these little, like sort of intellectual outposts in like, I mean, there aren't that many, you know, and they're like, the outpost is 40 people, you know, and they're all here and they're all dudes. Yeah. But anyway, there are cool towns. So don't look at maps, great land that aren't like the big three like cities and that have amazing people in them, you know

So load up your debit card and don't look at maps. There you go I'm just just driving to get an extra couple tanks of gas that you didn't know about. All right, let's uh, let's get into just real quick I wanted to talk about we're at the one week anniversary of Biden's last-minute We're at the one week anniversary of Biden's last minute equal rights amendment statement. His like big flourish as he left office. That feels like it's kind of a good metaphor for his whole thing, his whole administration. So he declared that the equal rights amendment is now quote, the law of the land, guaranteeing all Americans equal rights and protections under the law, regardless of their sex. And so a lot of people pointed out that this, like implied in this was that he was then

going to order the archivist of the United States to publish the Equal Rights Amendment. That was like the actual like physical thing that needed to happen. Like the follow-up to be like, yeah, so this is what I'm doing. A lot of people have also pointed out like Trump would have probably found a way to overturn this and he like couldn't have necessarily gotten away with it. But like making the statement suggested that he had like thought through that and like done some legwork to make these things possible. No. And instead, not only had he not done that legwork, not like worked with, because

his own department of justice had previously ruled like that he couldn't do this. And so when he made the statement, people were like, Oh shit, he like worked with the DOJ and like got them to like onboard. So didn't do that. So hadn't even like done that work and then didn't do the follow-up call with the look, I don't know what the fucking archivist is. Like, I don't know anything about that, but like, presumably the Biden, the top people in the president's cabinet and staff should know. Yeah. the top people in the president's cabinet and staff should know.

Yeah. They, they were like, our position is he said it. So the archivist should just publish it because of that thing. He said, just shirking all responsibility for what happens next. So essentially he made this big statement to quote, I think it was a Jezebel article, uh, the declaration quote, doesn't mean shit and nothing happened. And it just, I don't know. It seems like he has a futility fetish. Like I remember multiple times during his presidency where he would like

say he was doing a thing and then not be able to do the thing and then be like, what the, well, you know, what am I supposed to do? My hands are tied. In this case, I don't know. I remember it with regards to student debt forgiveness. I know he did do a lot of student debt forgiveness, but when it came to predictable pushback from the Supreme Court and Republicans and businesses,

and then the place that it Republicans and businesses. And then, you know, the place that it was most obvious was like with Israel where he spent a year and a half, like talking about how PO'd he was that Netanyahu wouldn't listen to him. Like it's like he thinks he's getting like A's for efforts on all, on all of these things. And I think this is how you get to a place where not just the extremely rich think authoritarianism is a good idea because it like allows them to be corrupt

and continue getting richer, but like also it seems like a bunch of people think authoritarianism is a good idea because you have just lived through a bunch of presidencies where as the world literally burns, the president keeps like throwing his hands up and being like, what am I supposed to do? Or in the case of Obama, like bailing out Wall Street and like making fucking people pay for the bailout with taxes while after running as like the hope

and change candidate. Like it's that I cried when he was elected. I was so happy. Yeah. And then I felt totally fucking ripped off. Yeah. I mean, it's just it's been bad, bad times for the brand of like the US president getting shit done. And so with, like, I just,

I think that's important context for like what we're seeing now, where Trump is just like, yeah, I'm going to be a fucking dictator and, you know, a bunch of albeit racist people seem to like, be like, hell yeah. Let's see where we're going with this. Well, it also feeds into conspiracy theories because why in the world, if this, if the Democrats were so upset about Trump being an existential threat, why in the world didn't they go all out to pass every executive order, every single possible thing in the last few

months and they didn't, they didn't do fucking anything. They packed, packed packed up and I think The Democrats kind of acted like well, we tried to teach these dumbass racists and idiots What what it's like, you know We tried to show that this is the most pragmatic way to be is the way we're being we have to like, you know Like but see you later. You know what we did our part We can't help if everybody's an idiot like see you guys later. Have fun Like we're just gonna retreat to Martha's Vineyard where we already lived.

Right. I mean, I think it's Pod Save America, which I'm even mad. I'm so mad at Pod Save America and I don't even ever watch it or really have never seen it. I've seen just bits of it and I want to fuck. I just want to. I just can't believe you. You know, you can't say Pod Save America when you're the ones who fucked America. Right. But you're the guys who fucking put Obama in office and and as in a in a trick, like as a trick. I mean, I don't know if Obama was used, but they wouldn't allow him to do hope and change if he was really wanting to. Right. You know, I just feel like combination.

It feels like it was a combination, but it does. I do know, like one of the things that's annoying about our democratic leaders and also what we see with the Republican leaders that come into office, whether it is through Congress or the presidency, is the fact that, you know, it's a lot, it feels like it's a lot of talk, talk, talk, talk, talk for your side, apparently, and then on the left side with the leaders that are in office, it's all the talk, no follow through, and they are trying to placate to both sides in a way that doesn't work because you, they're never gonna, they're never gonna like what you are doing. Like, and I know it's more complex and nuanced than that. Uh, but what that allows them to do is to just like what Biden did

throughout this whole administration is I'm going to do this and then make a half ass try at it and And then never fucking do it. Or it doesn't go all the way through. And it's like, nigga, you've been in office for 95 fucking years. You know how this game is. Like, you know, you know, like this isn't new to you. So, and so what that means is like, if I, if I do something and I know what the outcome is, but I'm doing it to make the people who are ignorant to the process think that I'm doing something, I'm

being manipulative. Yeah. Like, and that's what it feels like. That's what Biden did for four years. So it was just like mass manipulation to the people who put him in office. And was that his intention? Do you think, or was that something he just couldn't help but do because he was too in front? Yeah, that's what I'm trying to figure out.

Like, is it, is it like a thing where he's letting himself off the hook by being like, look, I just did this thing and I tried, I tried my best. And like, he's, I'm going to go down in history as the tried my best president. Or if he was literally thinking that he could get up there and people were so, like not savvy and checked out that they would just be like, there, he did the thing. Cause here's the thing with Obama and I'm not excusing Obama. Look, I love you. I'm a black man.

We have a black president. I'm from Chicago. We have a Chicagoan president that will always mean something to me. Like it will always mean something to me. And anybody who says it shouldn't can suck the deepest levels of my dick. But like, and there's a group levels and there's some deep levels, but, and that's not me excusing all the bullshit that he did. Like I, two things could be true.

So like, he also was severely disappointed, but there, but the one thing about Obama severely disappointing. But the one thing about Obama in relation to Biden is that Obama, a lot of people forget, had just hit the political scene four to six years before he was elected president, which is a very short time in politics. Now, the reason I'm bringing that up is when you talk about a Biden and you talk about somebody who's been in politics since 1842, like you would think that he knows how this works. And you would think that he's entrenched in it in a way where he's above the games and the manipulation of the politics around him, as opposed to an Obama like Chris, you brought this up, what's he used in a way? And like, I do think there's some elements of that, because he was brand new in politics. He, he wasn't a career politician at that point. Now,

he learned it really fucking quick. But he wasn't like a career politician like Biden was. And so Biden, when, when somebody like Obama runs on the hope and change, and then like the rug is pulled out from underneath you, like there is an element of maybe that's who you were. And also you got played by the people around you. When somebody like Biden runs on hope and change, and this nigga has been in office for seven decades, and then you pull the rug from out under us, then you are the problem, my friend. Like, you should know, you know this game game you, you're supposed to

have all these relationships, like people who were born and you are a senator, and now are working with you like, like, come on, bro, like, the reason he talks like that, like says malarkey and shit like that, and calls people jack is because like, when he started, that was the equivalent of like Riz and like, you know, cool Gen Z link. Like that was, that was cool stuff that people were like, man, this guy's pretty edgy.

He's the only one that has a corn pop story. Never. Yeah. That was him just like reverting to like straight when he first came in. Sounded out of a, like it was out of a litter little Abner, little Abner comic. They're like this new generation of politicians like Joe Biden grew up with their fancy new fangled habits of hitting a hoop down the street with a stick. He says things like malarkey,

his smack is so fresh. I forgot about hitting a hoop down his cheek with a stick. Why does nobody do that anymore? Oh man, never forget. Who knows? If I'm not mistaken, like, if he's not the longest, he's in the top 10 of people who have been in politics the longest. Like as far as like how many years? He was the youngest Senator when he was elected and the oldest dirt

when he left politics finally a week ago. So, or six, seven days ago. And so like, it was just so dissonant. If it was, it's more upsetting, uh, because. You know, we put him in office. Nobody expected him to like be hope and change, but we put him in office off the things that he said he would do. And then he went in knowing how the game works and just played the fucking game

and expects us to be like, well, he tried, man, fuck you. Well, that's, that's the part I wonder. I was like, you know, I was okay with the idea of like, oh, I could understand his presidency in the sense that like, he's trying to show that the dignified incremental way, as opposed to like, I'm not some guy like Trump who's like just going to go crazy. So that's like the choice. Like I'm showing you how the system works in a way where we just do things

the way they're supposed to be. But what I don't, which is what makes me think of like conspiratorially is I don't understand the last few months since he lost the election, why he didn't do anything, that's the part where I'm like, I do not get it. Like if I was doing in his, uh, you know, resentment about being replaced on the ticket, his theory is he would have won the election and he got fucked. And so that's insane. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. He's so I just don't, I don't know how to, I don't know how to think about him.

You know, it feels like he didn't do anything because he didn't want to do anything. That's, that's my, that's my suspicion because even if he didn't want to do it, the people around him. Yeah. I mean, well, the obvious example is Israel, Palestine. I mean, like, you know, they didn't want to do anything and everyone knows that now and you can't undo that. So that's where the Democrats have nothing, no brand anymore.

They don't have any trust, you know? And I mean, no one trusted the Republicans, but that's why people like the Republicans because they're just like, Oh, well, they're the real thing at least. Yeah. They say what they mean. Madness, of course. Yeah. But, and they, and they, even in an underhanded way, at the very least, you know, seemingly care about their base to the point where Trump is like, I'm gonna do all this shit.

And then this motherfucker is like doing it, like, in a way that he's like, I don't care if I push it through. I don't care. Like, if you if you're a senator who is not on my agenda, like go like jumping a river. Like go like jump in a river and like it's bullshit. But like, I know like a lot of Democrats be like, I wish our side could be like that. Yeah. But there is an element where I wish our side could be like that sometimes because like, you know, instead of making all these promises in these half ass attempts. Yeah. Like, we want you to do shit. We want you to like push it through and be like, this is for the better of the fucking people. Did you see the mayor of Chicago's statement about the other day about about like how he's not going to let ice come in here and all this sort of stuff like, yeah. And the way he spoke, that's like, I was like, that's the kind of talk we needed on the campaign. Like, he was just like, fuck these people, like fuck these people. I mean, he was saying friggin and stuff, but I mean, like that's. I mean, that's why I feel like, you know, I feel like the Democrats, you know, I don't feel like they're.

They're not like they didn't want. Yeah, they were more comfortable with fascism than changing one fucking thing about their own corruption. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the reason that Trump had a campaign in the first place in 2015, like how it was brought together is because like, there was, you know, Steve Bannon and like other really wealthy donors had this idea,

like had this data that said Americans wanted an outsider candidate, which is exactly what we're talking about. This idea that somebody could come in and just fucking force things to get done. Both sides wanted it. Bernie Sanders got a lot of support and almost beat Hillary Clinton, the most establishment candidate on the Democratic side and Trump on the Republican side did beat the, you know, all of the establishment candidates. And now like this is like, this is the result of that.

Like the Democrats kept doubling down on establishment and going back to the establishment stuff, but like the reason that Trump is popular and that Sanders had like that upswell of support is because people recognize that something is broken and fucked about the system and the Democrats are a institution that is like specifically designed to not recognize that. And so it just feels like we're going to, as long as I don't know what the way is out of this because it feels like the Democrats are gonna find a way

to like double back down on whatever the establishment. Oh, they want to just, I mean, yeah. Cause that's all they are, they are the establishment. So here's the thing too, I know we got to move on but like to another topic or take a break soon but here's the thing too. I know we got to move on, but like to another topic or take a break soon, but here's another thing too, when at, you know, 2016 decide in 2020, the talk. In the media, at least or amongst people was what is the Republican party now after Trump, you know, got booted out and by the guy elected, they're broken.

Who's the leader? Who's this? Who's that? Who's that? Like nobody knew the direction of the Republican Party and all these things. And that was the talk in the media on so online and everything like that. And what they were quietly doing in those two to three years until it was like time to start launching campaign seasons and Trump came back and

rode a wave to victory was they were quietly assembling like the tech industry and like going on social media and like actually like using the tool that they hated in the previous four years to their advantage and doing a lot of things to like shore up the fact that no matter what was going to happen, Trump was going to get elected and like the leadership and the vision and the structure of the Republican party came together quick as fuck. Yeah. Consolidating power.

Because it was crazy. Yeah. Right now we are saying the same thing about Democrats. What's the direction? Who's the leader? Where are we going? What's going to happen? This that any other?

The hope is that maybe behind the scenes, something is happening. Unfortunately, the faith that I have in that is almost zero. And like, that's the problem. Like you got your asses handed to you and it was partly, mostly your fault. What are you doing now? You got two years, like Jay-Z when he retired and like he had his first song and like when he was coming back and at the end of the song, he was like, y'all got two months to get y'all shit together.

Good luck. Like that's how he ended his first song after his retirement in 03. Like I want like the Democrats to be in that mindset. Like y'all got two years to get y'all shit together. Good luck. Like we're we're we're building we're we're getting shit ready. And I just don't think that's happening. And that shit pisses me off more than anything else. Yeah, I think it Yeah, I don't know how it, like I I'm at the point where I'm just like, I don't know how, how an organ, an organism that is like specifically designed as a like anti change self-sustaining power machine is going to, is going to create

change and I don't know, not do something that would undermine its own ability to sustain itself. It's, I don't know, pretty bleak on the democratic side. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Tech Guy and His Son's Boner Contest. We'll be right back. Oh, no. Lately on the NPR politics podcast, we're talking about a big question.

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About Bona Contest. Mm hmm. Yeah. Speaking of squatters. I'm gonna sex it up over here. I'm like, I'm gonna sex up my commentary. Yeah. Because you've already sexed it up with your.

Because Jackie's is making me feel like just a damn prude over here. Prude. That's the oldest word in the world. Oh, no, that didn't help. That didn't help. All right, go ahead. So I don't know, just like with the tech, the tech industry who are now, you know, Mark Zuckerberg is trying to convince us like he's just a guy's guy.

Always has been, you know, he's into smoked meats and, uh, sure grew his hair out. You're fucking dweeb, dude. Yeah. Oh, Zuckerberg. Yeah. Cool dude. But like, I don't know.

I think that whole, these guys are weird thing for the Democrats stumbled on with Tim walls and then immediately, you know, left, left behind, I think might've been onto something, you know, after watching Elon Musk go full Dr. Strange love, where his body seems to be like giving a Nazi salute despite itself, like he can't help it. He just like, his body like bursts out of his body. Or like, you know, part in the movie where the person like can't stop their body from dancing, like where they're like, I don't want to dance, but then their like shoulder starts like moving to the beat. It like feels like it was that except Nazi.

Wait a minute. He was bursting forth in that. I haven't seen Dr. Strange Love in a while. There is like a character that can't stop giving the Nazi salute. Yeah. Yeah. Dr. Strange Love himself can't stop Peter Sellers. Yeah. Yeah. He has like alien hand syndrome where like the hand is, you know, doing the thing and then his other arm is like, I forgot about that. Yeah. Yeah. I was managing the guy riding the bomb, which is also relatable. Yes. That's that's all of us. Yeah. But anyways, we have another rich tech guy stretching the limits of how weird oligarchs can be.

So I don't know Brian Johnson is officially like connected to the conservative movement or what, but he's a tech multimillionaire. I think he sold his company for like $350 million and he's famous for investing all of the money into defeating his own death, like putting, uh, using his son as a blood bag, sleeping in hyperbaric chambers, meticulously documenting his penis health and like de-aging his penis is a thing that he likes to talk about. And like, it's not exactly the same as Elon Musk's long-term plan to like kill the Earth,

but then like terraform Mars with a bunch of his own children but it's like same universe you know it's like the thing Chris that you were talking about of Todd like the inability to accept death and mortality and you know the fact that human existence is finite. Yeah just making up stories which people have made you know long people have been how long rich people have been trying to extend their lives unsuccessfully guess what yeah they're not look around and see how many 15th century rich people have been trying to extend their lives unsuccessfully? Guess what? They're not look around and see how many 15th century rich people are around. Yeah. None.

One. Who's one? Who's Joe Biden? Yeah, Joe Biden. Count Orlach. But anyway, yeah. Yeah. No, Swaratu.

But this is just, so he posted yesterday some charts that to the naked eye might seem like just like weird metrics on, you know, could be like readouts from like some, some business spreadsheet. But in fact, uh, he would helpfully provided the context that this is nighttime erection data from my 19 year old son at, and then like tags him and me, his duration is two minutes longer than mine raised children to stand tall, be firm and be upright. This is just, it's overall jail. Yeah. It's is very, very strange. This also like ties back to like we've talked before the speaker of the house, the Republican

speaker of the house, Mike Johnson has it like publicly talks about using the app covenant eyes with his son who is a teenager, which effectively means like he's talking about like having a not jacking off contest with his son. That's child abuse. The other thing is too, it's all child abuse. about like having a not jacking off contest with his son. That's child abuse. The other thing is too, it's all child abuse. That's not fucking, you can't do that to your kids. Yeah, but they do.

I don't, so I don't know like what weird, like how this keeps coming up for them that they keep getting focused on their son's boners and like publicly bragging about them. But it is a strange little glimpse into like what, what this version of oligarchy is going to look like. Yeah. Jack, you have children.

You have a son. Uh-huh. Tell, tell the people what the father's- I like where this conversation's going. Jack, you got a, you got a son, right, yeah. And Jack, you a fan of technology. No. Tell the people what the things that we should be worried about from our sons. Give me the top three things that we should be worried about with our sons, besides their

boners. Besides their boners? Besides their boners. That's number one, but we can just take that off. Let me just take that off. We can take that off. We can take that off. We can take that off. And like, I can't talk about their penises at all.

No. Okay. I would recommend not to. Let me just change a couple things around. Yeah, change your spreadsheet. Let me turn off this monitor. I'm just going to make the rows one through 11 disappear on this thing. There you go.

Hide one through 11. Right click, hide rows. Yeah. There's so many things to be worried about with children today. Yeah. It's so weird. Technology, like having them lose their free will to technology, you know, being like that, like the weird toxic parts of our culture don't like leech into them

through the soil of just like everyday life. Yeah. There's just so, so, so much, which you can only focus on if you do like find a way to ignore focusing on their boner health. Like to the thing, you know, like since the dawn of time, men have been toxic and, you know, and we passed that on to our sons and we, for some reason, viewed their manlyhood as a reflection of our manlyhood and all these things and yada yada yada, blah, blah, blah. It's just so funny to me, and I kind of mentioned this earlier, thinking about like Obama, right?

And how Obama had the cool factor. And like how like our last Democratic president before that, Bill Clinton, and I'm not talking about politics, I'm just talking about the charisma and the cool factor. Yeah, yeah. Like these dudes didn't need money to be sexy and people wanted to like be them and be around them and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you look at like the Republican side where a lot of them are jealous of that because, you know, for the most parts, they weren't like, you know, very, like they weren't viewed as like charisma magnets and attractive and blah, blah, blah.

And, you know, especially with like a lot of people in tech, I'm not trying to generalize. I know there is different people in everywhere, but a lot of people in tech probably would say when they were growing up, depending on how they grew up, they weren't always the most popular people in the class or, you know, the most charisma, blah, blah, blah. And it feels like everything now is geared toward the people with the money and like the everything that they have, the tech world and shit like that.

They are trying to tell us we've been men all along and we're the manly man. Like, dude, you started Facebook because women thought you were gross. Right. And so you wanted to like, that's where it was hot or not. Like, that's why you started Facebook. Like let's, let's not get it twisted. You were a dork and that's okay. That's fine. That's cool.

Like, but like this notion now that he's like, I'm a man's man and like, I'm going to track my son's bone and he's not doing that. But this person, like, it's just so fucking weird. Let's put them all in the same. Let's put them all in the same. It's just so fucking weird. Like, and it's just so weird. And this stem in front of it, it's just so fucking weird. Let's put them all in the same category. It's just so fucking weird. Like, and it's just so weird.

And it's stemming from the fact that for most of their lives, they were told that, you know, you're not a desirable option. And in their mind, that was because of different reasons, but what it was really because it was because you're just bad people. Like Mark, there's a lot of Mark Zuckerberg, there's a lot of people who looked like you, who get like partners and have Riz and blah, blah, blah. It's not because how you look, it was your personality, bro. Like, and that's what a lot of these people don't get, it feels like. Also, like, a lot of these people come from evangelical Christianity.

I mean, this is a Christian theocratic movement where you're not allowed to be gay. You're literally not allowed to be gay. That community is no joke. I've been in, I've been in the South. I grew up, I grew up in Catholicism, which also was much milder about saying it, but they said, you know, it's a sin to be gay. They did not, and they're telling children that.

So that makes you paranoid about performatively being straight. But the irony that the Christians, they have a heavy, heavy, heavy code about homosexuality, which makes homosexual, like makes it, you know, it's, it's, it's a, they say it's, you know, you get it. I mean, I'm just saying that these people end up doing like I have a, my penis is healthy. My penis is healthy is just their way of saying, daddy, I'm straight.

Right. I do just want to note that he posted the erection metrics and he, his sons, like is leading him in one category total duration of erection episodes, but has lower quality, average erection quality. So he was actually like doing this to like flex on his, like to make himself look like he had the best boners. I'm not gay and my son's not gay. I'm not gay and my son's not gay. Even though I'm monitoring my son's dick. Yes. Yep.

So it's isn't such a complicated topic because it's like, I don't want to, you know, it's just, it's just, but it's like, these guys are a lot of times like, um, they're just trying to prove how masculine they are in this way. That's just like, yeah, really connectable to Christian theocracy. Yeah. I think he grew up in the LDS church. Are you serious? Yeah.

Yeah. Oh yeah. Like, you know, you're not allowed to fucking. I mean, whatever. You're allowed to soak. That's right. It's tough to talk about. All you're allowed to do. I feel like it's hard to talk about. But but but it's, you know, anybody who grew up heavily, heavily religious.

It's yeah, it's it's they're they're doing this to kids. I mean, they're telling kids very serious stuff when they're little kids, like that there's a hell and you go there if you're gay That's fucking two children. They tell them that you believe shit when you're a child You believe shit when you're five years old when my dad told me that there was no point to leaving the house and everyone should Sleep all the time. I took him seriously and I've been asleep most of my life Religious I grew up very religious I have a lesbian or bisexual, but like, you know, and my grandmother is a very religious person and I don't want to get too deep into, you know,

talking about my family, but like I grew up in all that I grew up in. And I was close. It was close. It was, it was in the household. Um, and yeah, you do, you grow up and you, you hear this and you believe in it, you're brainwashed and. You know, it, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, and yeah, you do, you grow up and you, you hear this and you believe in it and you're brainwashed. And.

Hey, you know, this is a whole nother episode of a conversation, but like there, there is a thing that we also hope that, you know, you eventually get out of it. Right. And as we, you know, folks like us or things like that, like try to shift the narrative on a global, on a global scale or whatever, you know, like where more people are at least hearing that there are other options, right? There are other ways that there are other things. Well, yeah, we're having progress happening. We just had this because of the progress we had this fucking like upsurge of. because of the progress we had this fucking like upsurge of straight, fucking white Christians just being like, we're putting a stop to this because,

you know, because they probably think we're actually all going to go to hell for real. Maybe some of them. I mean, you know, it's, it's just like, you know, it's like, yeah, it's, if something foreign comes into your body, your body is going to attack it. And you know what I'm saying? That's what they're doing. And they're mine. This is a foreign thing.

They have to attack it and self preserve. Right. And, uh, yeah, it feels like an allergic reaction that kills the body is a good metaphor. That's all we can do. Make metaphors of how different ways that this is gonna kill people and the country But it's it's great making metaphors with you both Chris Wonderful having you as always where can people find you follow you all that good stuff. Well, you can find me on

today in Chicago at 8 p.m. At the Lincoln Lodge and And then you can listen to cold brew got me like, and good morning got me like, which I have been busy doing ketamine therapy. So I've lapsed on like on my podcast, but it will be back. It's just been a bit of a, a crazy couple of weeks with the, you know, doing ketamine, ketamine in the strip mall and everything. So, uh, I don't know, Jackie's, if you know, I mean, probably don't know that, but like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like Giphy Lips. So yeah, so you can follow me on at The Crofton Show on Instagram and on Blue Sky, The Crofton Show.

That's where I do poetry window now. And yeah, the Advice King Anthology, just look out for the audio book. I'll promote the hell out of it. So that's it. All right, Chris, we'll come back to you for a work of media you've been enjoying. Jacquees Neal, what a pleasure having having you where can people find you and follow you and is there a work of media?

You've been enjoying well, you know, you can always find me in these streets, baby And I'm gonna be in these streets in San Francisco one more time this weekend Go to my website Jackie's Neil comm or my Instagram go one more time this weekend, go to my website, Jackie's Neil.com or my Instagram. Uh, if you want to get tickets or San Francisco sketch fest.com, it may be SF sketch fest.com. Who fucking knows? But you'll find it and go buy some tickets, man.

It's going to be a great cast. I want to sell these things out. Uh, so if the site gang is in the Bay area this weekend, come show out. You can find me on all social media, Instagram, blue sky. I don't really post on Twitter anymore, but I am on there. I'm lurking. I'm lurking. And I'll reply to some shit.

If you say some stupid shit, I'll reply to your ass, but I'm not posting on my own. All that jockeys, Neil. There you go. That's where you can find that. Uh, work of media that I've been enjoying. I'm going to, I don't have a like tweet or anything, but I'm going to say, uh, mostly because I'm on it. Uh, go check out dropout TV.

If you don't, uh, I'm on the current episode of make some noise, which I am a regular on and, uh, you know, keep, keep your eyes out as we go through on the months, because there might be some other things popping up that you will not just see me on, but see me on. Uh, so check, you know, keep, keep an eye on dropout TV. A lot of really dope stuff on there. A lot of people that you love making you laugh, uh, really good people. So check it out and check out, make some noise.

Echo, Kellam, Brie Geiger, and myself are on the latest episode. And it's a funny ass episode. So, you know, let's check it out. Go check it out. Love those folks. Chris Crofton is there working media you've been enjoying? Yeah, I'm just going to continue my all out blitz of promoting Kristen to me because she was so nice to me, uh, last

night and, uh, and that I like, and I like her stand up so much, uh, she, just a tweet from her, you should get a tax credit for minding your own business. There you go. I like that. Let's see. Can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore Brian on blue sky at Jack OB. The number one at Pancho rebound on Twitter tweeted, just overheard someone say star crust lovers.

And I do just love when like somebody's only heard a thing a number of times. And, uh, just, oh my God, that's so funny. It's like the, yeah. You know, for all intensive purposes like that. Intensive purposes, baby. For all intensive purposes. But like that has so many forms in just day to day talking. And especially now that we just like hear weird shit.

That's like people saying things are taken out of context. And I think they think taking out of context is one word that's like kind of like taking that a content And you know, I mean like one yeah, it's like what there's no context really. What are you talking about? That's a word that means you aren't in trouble anymore And just leave me alone and it's spelled TK in T I K you and you know, that's right You can find us on Twitter at daily zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page that we don't really update anymore, a website, dailyzeitgeist.com that I don't know how often we update.

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I haven't been on the episode since all the fires. I'm sure you guys have talked about everything. Yeah. I don't need to talk about it anymore. But I've been on this show enough. I think I'm in at least the top 10 as far as most episodes. So, uh, and then also like, maybe, and then for people who, and for people who don't know, cause you guys have a lot of new listeners, I haven't been on

as much in the past year, uh, but you know, I was, I was there on the ground floor when this shit started with all of us. Uh, so like, you know, I've known Jack and Miles for a very long time. Yeah. Um, culture kings came over to what is now I heart, uh, it was us, you know, uh, Jamie and Caitlin show, uh, the Bechtel cast, David's like guys, every, you know, it was like five of us.

And we, we started this whole thing. Uh, so like, you know, I've been a part of the family since the beginning. And, uh, shout out to Miles, man. He, he's such a good dude and I hate to see bad things happen to good people. Uh, but I appreciate everybody who, you know, gave to him, showed out for him, supported him, uh, that support is going to keep needing to to happen with him and a lot of people who are gonna need it in LA But miles is good people. I'm so sad this happened to him and his family

I appreciate this I can for showing out for him and yeah all love to miles man for anybody The episode since that since it happened miles and his family lost their home and the fires since that, uh, since it happened, Miles and his family lost their home and the fires. So just, yeah, Miles is such a great guy and such a sweet guy. Yeah. And, um, yeah, you know, and I had a zeitgang guy at my show last night here in Chicago and he sent me a message. I'm coming to your show.

Zeitgang, you know, and that happens all over the place. So, and Miles is, you know, big part of me, half of that or whatever. You know what I mean? It's just like huge, much more than you miss him. You know, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But he's he's the best.

We can't wait to have him back while he's been out though. We have been having super producer Justin Connor come in and do the song recommendation. And he's been knocking it out of the park Can he keep it up? I'm gonna turn it into Putting some pressure on you Pitching a perfect game of song recommendations. Can he keep it up Justin Connor? Is there a song that you think people should go check out?

Yeah, this is a track by a group who is frequently recommended by miles Speaking of him and it's called the chocolate conquistadors by bad bad Not good and MFM RIP and this has a funky jazzy Herbie Hancock vibe mixed with like a J-pop style that you'd hear in an anime intro or like a really fun high score and Because it's MF Doom, there's like wild lyricism and playfulness with the tempo and it's an absolute jam. So this is Chocolate Conquistadors by Bad Bad Not Good and MF Doom. And you can find that in the footnotes. Footnotes. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio for more podcasts from iHeartRadio.

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