The Daily Zeitgeist - Teens Too Realistic To Be Happy? Psychoanalyzing Bear Movies 02.22.23

Episode Date: February 22, 2023

In episode 1427, Jack and guest co-host Caitlin Durante are joined by comedian, Amy Miller, to discuss… Famous Atlantic Writer Can’t Figure Out Why Teens Are Depressed / Anxious--Seems Certain It���s Not Climate Change, Putin Tears Up Nuclear Treaty No One Was Adhering To Anyway, Knock at the Cabin: A Movie Where Violent Conspiracy Theorists Aren’t So Bad? That Winnie-the-Pooh Horror Movie is Out And Sounds Just Awful (Again) and more! Famous Atlantic Writer Can’t Figure Out Why Teens Are Depressed / Anxious, Seems Certain It’s Not Climate Change Climate anxiety is widespread among youth—can they overcome it? Putin Tears Up Nuclear Treaty No One Was Adhering To Anyway Putin Rants About Gays and ‘Traitors’ in Bizarro Speech Putin pulls back from last remaining nuclear arms control pact with the US Russia halts US inspections of nuclear arsenal under New START treaty Russia is violating the last remaining nuclear treaty with the US, according to Washington Knock at the Cabin: A Movie Where Violent Conspiracy Theorists Aren’t So Bad? M Night Shyamalan’s ‘Knock at the Cabin’ Already Causing A Stir For Being Too Religious 'Knock at the Cabin’ Puts Gay Dads Through Hell at the End of the World That Winnie-the-Pooh Horror Movie is Out And Sounds Just Awful (Again) ‘Winnie-the-Pooh: Blood and Honey’ Review: An Un-Bear-Able Horror Cheapie The Gory ‘Winnie-the-Pooh’ Slasher Movie Wants to Traumatize You The Most WTF Moments From ‘Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey ‘Winnie the Pooh: Blood and Honey’ Review: Revenge, Murder, and Eeyore BDSM Reach the Hundred Acre Wood A Winnie the Pooh horror movie? As characters hit public domain, it’s just the start LISTEN: Easy Baby by DenyahSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I really gave the performance of a lifetime. I'm glad you noticed. You just blacked out. Yeah, your eyes rolled back in your head when you were singing that. My nose is bleeding. It's, yeah, it was a whole thing. Amazing. Did you complete the Titanic?

Lego? Ages ago. Ages ago. All right. We're all out of the loop here in various ways but congratulations thank you and yes that song is a reference to thank you so much that song is a reference to the fact that i did buy the lego titanic i don't know, structure and spent weeks putting it together. And it now, it was on my living room floor for a while. Now it's on my bedroom floor because I don't have any place to actually put it. Yeah, it's like a mat. It's massive. It's huge. It's the size of a bathtub. Would you like an extra bathtub bathtub i wouldn't know what to do with that anyways uh congratulations thank you we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one

of the funniest stand-up comics in the world you know her from tv podcasts you can see her headlining at theaters near you if you check her website for dates before they sell out because a couple of them are sold out please welcome one of your favorite guests one of our favorite guests it's amy miller oh that was so nice hello hello hello everybody hello apologies if you can hear this cat screaming i can't some of the tour dates might be in your head yeah no you'll see i'm gone a lot and i get punished this way when i'm home my cat just screams at me just yells at you yeah whatever she'll get over it you know what i mean what do you want to be taken care of cats take care of themselves didn't

that is the contract that we have with cats i got the one needy one that's right all right well amy it's great to have you back we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things that we're talking about today there was a new report from like the gold standard of teen mental health and they were like man kids are not doing well right now young teenage women gay and lesbian teenagers are like really struggling and they're so this came out like a week and a half ago uh last week the atlantic's like hot shit new columnist came through with like his take on it and i just thought it was very emblematic of how the mainstream media is dealing with like my overall thesis is that this

probably has something to do with like climate change and the fact that there is a ongoing apocalypse happening and we're just like kind of all agreeing to ignore it pretending it's not there and he like gives it a single sentence he's like some climate activist thinks that think it might be climate change but then like goes on to a bunch of other like wild theories so i just wanted to talk about that putin tore up the nuclear treaty i was not up on where we were with the nuclear treaty. So I will catch you guys up on what that all means in case you weren't up on it either. Why weren't you up on it? What have you been doing? It's really, it's a question that needs to be asked.

What the fuck is my problem? We'll talk about, we might talk about some movies, some Knock at the Cabin. Nice. I know about movies. You do know about the Cabin. Nice. I know about movies. You do know about movies. That's really all I know about. So Knock at the Cabin came out a couple weeks back. I don't think it's like a certified blockbuster, but it did reach number one at the box office.

So like boffo-ish BO. So like boffo-ish B.O. And some people have pointed out that it seems to, there are some potentially problematic ideas in there. I don't know. We'll talk about the controversy. Problematic ideas in a movie? Never heard of it. By M. Night Shyamalan, which usually my philosopher king.

In a horror film? I know. Well, that's kind of my point is that like do we like horror films have like you you can't be like well the exorcist is promoting the satanic panic even though it did but like i'm still i still want to live in the world where the exorcist exists probably so we'll talk about that we'll talk about maybe that new Winnie the Pooh horror movie. Let's just talk horror movies. I just saw Ant-Man.

Oh, shit. And we're going to talk about Ant-Man. I'll tell you what. We will be talking about Ant-Man. Magic Mike, not a horror film. Did you guys see Magic Mike? The opposite of horror. I saw Magic Mike.

Delightful film. In my loins I felt delight. And good. We're giving it a thumbs way up. They're all good, Jack. You can't go wrong. What are we looking for?

Before we get to any of that shit though, Amy, we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history i like that you call the rest of your show shit any that bullshit good real professional stuff thanks for tuning in again before we get to all the bullshit yeah um let's see well this weekend i'll be in oregon my Portland show is sold out, but there's still some tickets for Salem. And if you're crazy, McMinnville, a lovely little town, you can

go to a winery and then see some comedy. Yeah, both about an hour outside Portland. So I got you guys covered. And then a couple weeks I'll be in Alameda in the East Bay at the Alameda Comedy Club. And then I have a new clip up on YouTube. I haven't seen it because I don't want to look at the Alameda Comedy Club. And then I have a new clip up on YouTube.

I haven't seen it because I don't want to look at the comments. But I hear it's great. So you should watch it. Give it a thumbs up. I did it. I was at the show, so I remember it. But yeah, give it a thumbs up.

Maybe leave a nice comment. I don't know. I don't know what's going on over there. But yeah. And my whole special is up on youtube too if you want to see more and go to amymillercomedy.com for dates if you want to see moi if you want to see moi come see me so your search history is just amy miller stuff no i've gotten so much better i'm really really growing up. I can't. I just can't be bothered with what people are.

Although I was on the New York Times TikTok yesterday. I have to encourage people to see this because it's maybe the dumbest piece of media about comedy I've ever seen in my life. Like, it's just about what water bottles people have on stage. It's like the most inane. That's hard hitting journalism. I don't know what you're talking about. And then I did read some of those comments because, you know, TikTok comments are hilarious a lot of the time. Like even if you're getting roasted, you're like, these kids are so fucking funny.

But, you know, there were people that were just like why aren't people using reusable water bottles i'm like i i just took the bottle that they handed me at the taping right i didn't like call ahead to comedy central like i'm gonna need a clean canteen on stage it's just it's the most insane thing it's literally just about water and comedy dude are they trend chasing are they like i feel like they just like gave one kid like a tiktok assignment and he was like what about this right it's like he doesn't know anything about stand-up but he just noticed that we have water bottles sometimes and has a bottled water

company ever reached out to you and been like we would love you to influence for on our behalf because that kind of makes sense it seems like an advertising community falling down on the job yeah maybe it's happened to other people i I might not be famous enough. Or according to this piece, I don't drink enough water, maybe because they do clip out like the Robin Williams special where he has like 17 bottles of water stage. And they're like, some comedians move around a lot and they get really thirsty. I'm not exaggerating this piece, by the way. But I don't move at all. so i think one bottle is probably good for the whole half hour there you go i don't know it's wild you have to go check it out i mean no wonder these these teens are so depressed about climate change because all these comedians are not using reusable water bottles they're just chugging 17 bottles of water on stage, throwing them away, and look what it's done to our planet. I can't hear for a good time, Amy,

not to watch you destroy the planet Earth. Well, what's wild is in the last six months, I've been doing a new bit about plastic bottles, and I'm like, ooh, you caught me too early with this clip. Let's do a follow-up in a couple months when that's been taped. So wild. The New York Times TikTok needs to get up on their shit.

I'm disappointed in them. They're really trying. What is something you think is overrated? Oh, talking about gut health. I'm really tired. I don't want to do it anymore. I'm doing my best, but't want to do it anymore. I'm doing my best. But like, you know, I think my gut's okay.

But I had a friend tell me that now the new thing is like we're brushing our teeth too much. And he was like, yeah, you have to like brush and floss like once a day. And I was like, nope, I don't. I'm going to keep three times. And if I shit more, that's fine. It's just I can't do it. I'm going to keep three times. And if I shit more, that's fine. It's just I can't do it. I'm so tired of it. Well, how does that relate to gut health?

We're like swallowing too much toothpaste accidentally. No, he said like like constantly removing the healthy bacteria from our mouths, which is like the first part of the digestive process. Is somehow having a negative effect on gut health. I said, I don't care. I can't care. I'm like, I want to have teeth. I don't know. It's just gone too far.

Listen, we were also at a birthday party, so let's just say that. I don't want to talk about gut health at a birthday party. Just stop. It does that. I don't want to talk about gut health at a birthday party. Just stop. It does seem to be the thing that everyone has decided is the most interesting health trend to talk about. I know. It's bizarre. And sometimes it involves poop transfusions and stuff.

Yes. Also, people don't want to talk about it at birthday parties. Speak for yourself, okay? I had an entire birthday party dedicated to poop transfusions. Yeah, Caitlin has good theme parties. Thank you.

What is something you think is underrated, Amy? Oh, I'm getting really back into reading books. Do you guys do this? It's really lovely. I think I've heard of these. I've been reading books do you know do you guys do this it's really lovely i've been reading books sitting down throwing my phone into the other room and just like reading a book that's very dramatic i like it though it has like this whimsical like you know childlike feeling to it because that's the last time that i read books all day or a lot yeah i guess not maybe college yeah it's been really nice get out there there's just some great

fiction and you know you can just escape yeah books i got so much more interested in books like right when i graduated i was like i I think there was just some internal part of me. It was like, you can't tell me what to do. Oh, yeah. And then I started reading all the books that I had skipped right after college. That was the same way, yeah. Books are delightful. Children's books in particular are very whimsical.

They're so easy to read. I love children's books. I'm tearing through one one two of these things a week i love reading aloud to children it's one of my favorite things like if i'm babysitting or hanging out with my friend's kids i'm like i'll read it the easiest why is this lady you went to college with putting me to bed and they're like oh so i can drink wine and not do it and i'm like once upon a time like chill you even do a voice for the narrator that's just the normal part i read every the dedications and everything. You gotta. You gotta. About the author. You gotta. Yeah.

This book is actually copyrighted in 1983. Yeah. Before even I was alive. Anyways. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about teen anxiety and why it certainly can't be caused by climate change. We'll be right back.

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you get your podcasts and we're back and this guy guy, Derek Thompson, Derek Thomas, is like kind of the new hot shit, like Malcolm Gladwell type guy in that he talks exactly like Malcolm Gladwell and also is like a beloved counterfactualist. He has like a podcast on the Ringer Network. I thought you were going to say below hard. Beloved by many, not necessarily me. But there's this study that came out that is very troubling and is all about the extreme emotional trauma and, you know, distress that young teenagers are in. It's worse with young women and young gay

people, but it's still like boys are headed in the wrong direction, like straight boys are headed in the wrong direction. But I was not aware that this is an update to a past article he had written, but he's like, all right right so last time i wrote about this i blamed it on phones and social media and there is some science that seems to indicate that's actually not the problem and then there's like he even gives space to like conservative perspectives letting like claiming that letting lgbq trans people were not like consulted for these statistics so he keeps referring to lgbq people letting them identify instead of like hide their sexual orientation is like causing the problem he's like i don't adhere

to that but this is like what conservatives like so he's like putting all these different like and there's this part of the conversation, there's this part of the conversation. But I want to read you the entirety of the climate change thing. He says, some psychologists point to social media, whereas others blame school shootings. Others chalk it up to changes in parenting. Climate change activists say it's climate change. Atlantic writers like me blather on about the decline of physical world interaction. So it's just the climate change activists say it's climate change as the whole, is the entirety of the climate change portion.

He does link off to an article that is pretty wild. It's in National Geographic and it's like, yeah, we talked to 10 000 young people and they all expressed like the majority of them expressed the position that humanity is doomed like which that seems like a big that seems like a big deal that's been introduced into the into the equation over the past couple decades right why won't he consider that it's several major factors and also like one big factor that there is i mean maybe a positive effect of social media is like having being able to have a conversation about mental

health that maybe like teenagers wouldn't have had you know 30 years ago or whatever because now people are more comfortable being like i'm sad or i feel anxious you know right he does mention that yeah he gets into like all all possibility like he does say it could be a stew of all these things but like all possibilities are brought up and explored like the one you were just talking about that like, you know, people have better vocabulary to express these emotions. But the one that like is just a quick aside is climate change. And it just feels like that is has to be like the biggest. It shouldn't be like a side conversation. It should be the main point like that. These kids are living through a world that we know is being poisoned every day and like every day the people like how the world exists and and like the jobs they're supposed to get like it's easier to get a job that helps that system continue to

pollute the gloat you know like it's it's just a like you're living in a broken society i feel like yeah it makes sense that you would be struggling with anxiety and depression be so depressed that it's like the planet you're living on will not sustain life in some amount of years and maybe while you're still alive like humans invented religion to deal with our own mortality so like imagine kids being like oh wow my mortality is like so much more imminent than the generations before me because the planet that we're on is like is just suffering so drastically yeah and it feels personal to them i imagine because it's like we had the information and then still like brought them here like yeah for like with a certain amount of you know years under your belt you're like well i actually did this too i've contributed to it you know we're

all part of the problem if you're a kid you're like wait they knew because our parents didn't like pay attention or care you know right um so probably just i mean yeah i'd be i'd be pissed but there is also a large factor of just like additionally they're teenagers and it's fucking horrible to be a teenager right right yeah it's it it is like over time like it seems to be getting worse to be a teenager is like the thing that he's trying to explain in this article and yeah it it does seem like the i mean the article he links off to for his like quick aside and like that's what i i do frequently wonder like how much of this is them just like not wanting that.

They're just like, well, yeah, it's climate change, but like, what are we going to do about that? And so they just like kind of leave it as an aside rather than write the whole article about it.

But like, yeah, the article that actually like delves into climate anxiety among young people, like they're talking about how they're like yeah our teachers keep being like and your generation are going to solve it for us and he's like that doesn't make me feel good you guys that's that makes me stressed out that you guys are just kind of leaving this one up to us and also we're the ones who are dealing with the consequences like

you know also by the time they could even like the the young this young generation i sound so these young kids by the time they could do anything to enact any kind of change i feel like it'll it's already too late but it'll be very too late by then. Right. Thanks to a world that they exist in where it's just like the status quo is like, ah, but the real thing we need to talk about is your anxiety with regards to this. Even the National Geographic article frames the thing as like, what do we do about climate anxiety? Yeah, we need some more teenage geniuses.

You got to step it up, kids, because we need you to start working on this now. If you don't want to wait to fix climate change until you're an adult, then guess what? Hit those books. Again, reading, right? It's fundamental. Yeah. Crack open the Pad Hit those books. Again, reading, right? It's fundamental. Yeah. Crack open the Paddington books and really learn about how to fix it.

Get some test tubes or whatever, how you do science. The elephant and piggy books. A lab coat, some goggles, and start working on it. Listen to us. We're taking it seriously. They are.

They are working on it. Yeah. us. We're taking it seriously. They are. They are working on it. Yeah. This podcast is giving them the most anxiety. Do they think this is helping? No, this is an escape. We're helping them forget. Laughter is the best medicine for people and for the planet. Right.

Planet medicine. I've heard a lot of people recently, like, make fun of the phrase gaslighting because it's now come to mean any form of, like, misleading someone. You know, like, tricking has, like, gaslighting has come to replace just all lies. Deceit. Lying. Yeah, deceit. But i think that it's probably like i think

there's probably some pressure like being put on that phrase from the fact that like the big overarching like major lie that we're all existing under is just this like broad scale gaslighting where like people in charge are like yeah things are bad we get it and we're like man somebody should do something and they're like totally and then they just like don't do anything they just like steer into the fucking spiral and it's yeah it's it is i i would understand why everything everyone feels like they're in a constant state of being gas lit you really bummed me out yeah yeah but i mean i don't know who's gaslighting you who's gas yeah i i just i i hope that like people get better at

gaslighting get better at gaslighting so that we don't have to deal with this thing. So that no one recognizes it. Yeah. The term is overused, I think, because people are bad at it. Like if you're really excellent at gaslighting, they don't notice. That's the whole point. When you're really good at gaslighting, you don't even notice that a thing has happened but even like treating the anxiety over climate change as a like a mental health condition to treat feels like expert level gaslighting you know where it's yeah there's always this idea that we can't treat two things at once like like that's what's so wild. Right. We could just like fix several things simultaneously maybe or start trying. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. Well, let's talk about good news. Vladimir Putin has decided to tear up the nuclear treaty. Woo. Yeah. Yeah. Just to set this up, did you see the clip of, maybe guys covered it on another show of Trump calling it the other N word?

No, no, I don't think I did. Oh, it's pretty incredible. But it was during his essentially the Russian State of the Union speech. also like it's interesting because like if you look at the whole speech he's also like doing a lot of spending a lot of time blaming the west for quote making pedophilia the norm in their lives and like same-sex marriage and like just all the shit that is like talking points on fox news already like i guess i knew that there was a overlap between Fox News because because like in the war effort and the ramp up to war, they were using like Tucker Carlson clips. But it seems like it's like a real core part of his argument for why they should like go to war with the entire West is like a bunch of Fox News talking points, which is cool. Cool. Yeah, yeah.

So most consequentially, he announced that Russia is suspending their participation in the New START, which is the last remaining nuclear arms control treaty between Russia and the U.S., which seems like the major component of the treaty is that both countries are permitted to conduct inspections of each other's weapon sites. But apparently that hasn't been happening since before the pandemic. So I don't know. Some people are saying so really like this doesn't fundamentally change the facts on the ground so much. But I don't think anyone thinks it's a good sign. But things are headed in the right direction. I don't think anyone thinks that except Caitlin. Caitlin, take it away. Yes. I was going to say that just add that to the list of things that teenagers should be anxious and depressed about are impending nuclear war.

But we had this. I mean, this was what we, at least I did back in the 80s, my first memories took place in a world where Russia supposedly had a globe-ending number of nuclear weapons pointed at whatever city you were in. So, yeah, I don't know. But so on that one, I'm going to give it a big toughen up, kids, because we've been dealing with this forever.

Yeah, this is old news. OK. Yeah. And we wore those plaid shirts in high school too okay so you didn't come up with this shit yeah i do feel like i don't know i'm always comforted by this is probably very wrong but just like human beings thirst for for wealth like i just am like i don't know i i it's always like made me think nuclear war won't happen because i just think everyone wants to keep staying alive and getting money and running our pedophile rings right exactly profitable also known as hollywood what thank you wasn't that weird that I always sort of agree with them?

Right. The Fox News pedophilia paranoia. I'm like, I mean, kind of, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. I wish that they would police it a little more on their side. But yeah, plenty of a. Yeah. A few weeks ago the state department said russia was already violating the treaty and russia countered that the u.s were the ones violating the treaty so it sounds like you did it it sounds like it's at a mature place the conversation but yeah i know what you mean i did have the thought because i guess xi jinping is

traveling to moscow to like i who knows what but i think people's biggest fear is like a world war where china and russia join sides and the you know neo-con neo-liberal position on that has always been like but globalism makes that more unlikely because we all have economic reasons to, you know, join hands and not kill each other's entire population. But I just, I don't know. And that's a beautiful thing. Just kidding. That is such a beautiful thing. Only kill them over a long period of time slowly while gaslighting them about how we're all in it together. And literally killing them with gas. Yes.

I do also like in this speech that he was like talked about the gender neutral God. Yeah. That he's fearing will come. It's totally just right wing talking points from from... A God I can believe in. Yeah, there we go. So I guess we'll see. That's how I'll end that story. Nice.

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But he was visiting la and we went to a movie and everyone started clapping when nicole kidman came on screen and he was like what the hell is going on he had never seen it they don't like have a lot they don't really have the amc yeah in omaha maybe they have one but it's definitely not like an iconic moment in their lives yeah and the entire theater erupted in applause and he was just like i don't know what this shit's weird out here he's like did she die what is nicole kidman okay i'm like no she's fine she just she inspires us to watch the movie that we already are here to watch yeah she's telling us to come to the movies while we're at the movies and we get excited

your movie theaters don't have an ad for the movie theater that you're already in what omaha okay and it's not even for concessions it's not like you know like go get a coke coke's delicious it's like come to the movies well at least they're like let's all go to the lobby that makes sense because it's like because that's how movie theaters make their money is concessions right but this was just like you're already sitting at this theater about to watch this movie just wanted to remind you thanks i'm nicole kidman yeah i have a sparkly pinstripe suit oh my gosh iconic i know it was the halloween costume of the season i feel 2021 it was i dressed because she is wearing a wig so like you can also complete that part

or it feels like it yeah i was i dressed as amc theaters for halloween and then because i knew that everyone else was going to go as nicole kidman so i could be like hello i'm like we can take a picture together because i'm like the counterpart to your costume i was a united artist theater regal the whole chain okay wow it's a good thing you guys didn't run into each other yeah we would have had to fight problems i feel like that is where we we talked last week about a couple movies where like brands are the new hero like with the new movie that's about the invention of the air jordan or the invention of tetris, yeah. Just people dressed as the various brands fighting one another,

I feel like is probably not too far away. I will write all of those screenplays. I am wearing a Chevron t-shirt right now. So I just, yeah, I love, yeah, we do love brands. It's interesting. Dress for the role you want to play, you know? That's it. I am wearing a role you want to play, you know? That's it.

I am wearing a Titanic. I said that so weird. Titanic t-shirt right now. Did Titane the... You are. Oh, you really are. You really are, yeah. And it's beautiful.

It's a work of beauty. It is the poster. I'm wearing a Caitlin Gill hoodie. What about a Caitlin Durante hoodie? Yeah. What the hell? Get a screen printer the wait what was the amc theater costume was it just like the the logo the suit oh i'm so glad you asked i can't answer this well i have a sweatshirt that i already had i didn't even need to buy it

for this costume a sweatshirt that says somehow heartbreak feels good in a place like this. I wore red pants with like, I like attached string lights up the sides of the pants to make it be like, oh, these are like the lights that are illuminating the like stair stairs to like help you see your seat kind of thing and then i taped some candy wrappers to me and then i carried around an amc popcorn bag and soda cup i'll send you a photo in fact where was your mcguffin is what i wanted well you mean the mcguffin's bar? Mm-hmm. I did drink alcohol all night out of my cup. So that was kind of MacGuffin's bar at AMC Theaters. Beautiful. So anyways, movies are a thing. They happen at AMC Theaters.

One such movie that came out. They happen at AMC Theaters, and I should say only at AMC Theaters. And I should say only AMC theaters as of, yeah, this podcast has become a AMC absolutist podcast where we don't acknowledge the existence of any other. Movie theater, one movie, Knock at the Cabin, came out fairly recently. The latest in the M. Night Shyamalan oeuvre. And this one, I remember seeing the trailer and being like okay so the twist has to be because so so the premise is two men and their daughter are like at a cabin in the woods and they are accosted by a bunch of religious zealots and there is violence against the gay couple, both in like, as they are, there is like this home invasion,

but also in like flashbacks of like their life. And so I was like, well, certainly the religious zealots can't be right in this movie. Right. Like, cause they're like, you have to kill each other to save the world. And I'm not going to spoil it, but it does feel like they are correct about a lot of stuff in the movie.

I don't know. M. Night Shyamalan, I'm not clamoring to see his movies anymore. But I am curious. But it does seem like, based on just some context clues from the trailers I've seen, it does seem like, and the twist is, the scary religious zealots who want people to murder each other, there's something to it right they might be religious people mad about the movie or they like it because i feel like we've had these like scary religious zealots in horror films and thrillers forever and for the most part christians don't appreciate it because they're like that's because they're painted as the villains they're painted as the villain but i think rarely are they like and they were right about the the threat that was coming right like so it we'll just say the movie actively invites

sympathy for these stand-ins for the most dangerous people on the right although they do claim that the characters being gay has nothing to do with their role in all of this they've just been selected by god but i don't know on the one hand it feels very much like that's a that's a weird message to be putting out at a time when america is has this like soft death cult taking over like mainstream politics for like one of the parties like in q anon to then just be like and what if they were right what if they were right about it all and that's the beauty of hollywood you know but yeah i mean i don't know like there's also like the exorcist or rosemary's baby i think you could be like well those came right before the satanic panic and that was certainly a bad

thing that happened from the right so maybe it's just like the right not being able to handle their shit well also gay couples you know more likely to financially be together enough to have a vacation home. Right. Yeah. What, you know, not that many average American straight families have their own cabin retreat. So good for them. So that's good representation. It's just realism.

It's just realistic. That's all. It's just realistic. That's all. My main takeaway from Knock at the Cabin is that I always think that it's Knock at the Cabin Door. I always think there's an extra word to the title and there simply isn't. And I feel like they forgot to include that extra. It just feels incomplete as a title to me. Yeah. include that extra it just feels incomplete as a title to me yeah also the intruders all met on an online message board as super producer victor just pointed out but yeah i there yeah there are

certain titles that just like don't sit in my brain and i refute like i'm like well that that's not anything to do with my brain that is they, they got the title wrong. They messed up, yeah. It would be awesome if I could come up with an example of that. Wait, and the villain is Dave Bautista? Yeah. Oh, that makes me sad. So they picked just your regular, unassuming. Apparently he's very good in the film. I think the people who are objecting to the portrayal of like this right wing death cult being too likable are reacting to the fact that he gives a very human performance as one of them. And yeah, so I don't I don't know that this is going to to like derail his career in any way.

But I don't always go back to wrestling. his career in any way. He can always go back to wrestling. He could. I think he's going to be an Oscar-nominated actor at one point. I think so, too. It's a weird take, but I think he's really good.

For this movie, for Knock at the Cabin. Yeah, maybe not. Yeah, somehow they're going to go back and be like, oh, I guess it did come out. Yeah, so there's still hope that he will be nominated for an Oscar.

There's buzz. We're starting the buzz. This is how it begins in media. Yeah. And then the other big horror movie release is Winnie the Pooh Blood and Honey, a film that we kind of seized on when we first heard about it and the trailer dropped. And this is basically the result of Winnie the Pooh, the original stories by A.A. Milne passing into the public domain. Like, so they are now 100 years old. They are up for grabs like Peter Pan and the I wanted to say the Wright Brothers, but the Brothers Grimm, the brothers grim, the Bible. Classics.

And so somebody had the idea, okay, I'm going to take Winnie the Pooh and make him the slasher in a horror movie. When you see the trailer, it looks like it's just some dude in a Winnie the Pooh mask that also doesn't look

that much like Winnie the Pooh to the point that you suspect that they spoke to a lawyer and the lawyer was like I actually don't know if this is going to be okay. Which because some of it came from Disney. Right. Yeah. Not the books. Yeah. Yeah. So that's why

Winnie the Pooh was not allowed to wear a red shirt in the film because he does wear a red cap with white writing on it which I thought was weird yeah did you see the movie Amy no I just wish he was a MAGA Winnie the Pooh

oh okay wow he does kind of give MAGA Winnie the Pooh vibes though like the in the shots that I've seen from the trailer the movie's out everyone seems to hate it it is made by a filmmaker who is like a hobbyist it would appear like he very recently was just like worked for an electricity company in the uk or like i think they've actually private or nationalized it so like he was a government bureaucrat working in electricity and making

movies on the side. And so he just got to this idea first. A corporation is not going to... Anyone who is part of an organization with a legal department is probably not going to be the first to an idea like this which is how i think this ended up happening but yeah they the reviews aren't great but it does just raise the question of like what are what are we going to get next i mean look again this is well i don't even know if this is hollywood ingenuity but this is some kind of ingenuity though i don't hate the idea i the execution i heard is bad but i think maybe it's just because i like bear media famously uh as a paddington paddington and i like one of the poo cocaine bear i already have a ticket to see cocaine bear

friday no thursday night like the night before it officially opens wow i'm ecstatic yeah these bears i'm fine with the idea i am afraid for what else we're gonna get when their when their time comes but i never been a big christopher robin fan so if he like goes after christopher fine like just never was about him you know i don't give a shit yeah you're an annoying kid you're spoiled right and your bear now has a thirst for blood right i mean i think it's i i agree that like i in theory it sounds like a good idea like the winnie the poop characters all seem to have like different problems going on you know piglet definitely suffers from like generalized anxiety disorder yeah tigger is man a meth head yeah tigger is on meth and like there's also like so the premise of this is apparently that like christopher robin when he grew up was like all

right i'm not gonna go back to the hundred acre wood anymore because i'm i i don't have an imagination anymore and then he returns and realizes they were real and are now like feral and like eating each other and killing and like that's and then winnie the pooh the killer feral there is released into the world which is basically the premise of like toy story 3 like kind of or it's like got a lot of the same ideas in there as like you know like the the idea of like kids moving on from the their childhood imagination like the the most depressing moments in the movie inside out like it's a thing that Pixar has touched on repeatedly. But never made it a horror movie.

Exactly. The Child's Play franchise. Do we know how long this movie is? Because it's the kind of thing where I'm like, if you're respectively 80, 90 minutes, great. If this is two plus hours long,

I'm already annoyed because it's, I think it's a fine idea, but like, I don't want to see it for that long. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's right. I would guess it's like 83 minutes.

That's my, I'll put money on it. Hour 40 minutes. All right. You know what? 10 minutes of that is credits because. My guess based on like, based on the trailer and I'll have to watch the movie to like figure out if this is accurate. But like I I had the sense based on the trailer that this was just a slasher movie in which the slasher wore a Winnie the Pooh ish mask because like that that appears to be what is that like it's a human in a way the poo mask.

And then like people were like oh they're making a winnie the pooh horror movie that's so fucked up and they like reshot a bunch of scenes to like add the stuff about christopher robin like going back to the hundred acre wood to like make it actually winnie the pooh who's doing the murdering and maybe that's where some of the runtime problems would come in. Is that they had to, uh, but he does use the yours tale to whip a shirtless Christopher Robin at one

point. Oh, sounds kind of hot. Is Christopher Robin ripped? That's it. The, the review doesn't mention that, but that is the question that is bagged by that description.

Yeah, absolutely. No one's seen cocaine bear yet it's not out at the time of this recording as of this recording it's not out oh well i know someone who saw it in omaha last night oh really disagree what is this like magical movie world in omaha where they don't have AMC theaters and movies come out a week early? That's great. I know. I have no idea. But he definitely saw it last night. And I mean, I do think it's kind of cool that it's like that TikTok comedian who complained about his Ikea job in a funny way.

Yes. What's his name? Scott. Scott Seiss. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm happy for him. That's cool.

It's a good start. Oh yeah, he's in Cocaine Bear, right. He's like the opening shot of the trailer. Yeah, he plays like an EMT or something. I do keep waiting for him to be like, when he sees the Cocaine Bear, be like, alright, listen up, bear.

Dun dun dun dun. Yeah, like the music to come in, him to turn, turn to camera. I keep waiting for him to turn and be sponsored by Ikea and just take the bag. Yes. And be like, sorry.

Sorry, everyone. I was kidding. Yeah. Why would he have anxiety? He's, you know, so it's a perfectly normal system where you criticize the labor practices of the thing.

But then, like, the only feasible option for you to get to eat is to be sponsored by them. It's a cool world. You can only make so many cocaine bears. That's right. Maybe Cocaine Bear and Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey are both about climate change, if you really think about it. You know know the earth rising up and murdering us back yes murder us back whoa daddy the it is interesting bears hibernate you know their polar bears are famously a symbol of like the the mess the climate change

has caused and and now we're getting horror, multiple horror movies about bears. And who knows what direction Paddington 3 is going to take? We really don't know. We have some ideas that I believe you pitched them, Caitlin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No indication yet if they've gone with that. He doesn't eat marmalade anymore. Just pills, just opiates.

That's right. People are really into bears on drugs. Yeah, no more honey for Pooh Bear. No more marmalade for Paddington. It's only cocaine diet from here on out. Yeah. So the original version of Mickey Mouse is about to enter the public domain. The filmmaker behind Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey, apparently already has a Bambi and a Peter Pan slasher ready to go.

Wow. We'll see. I'm assuming it's just a slasher film with people wearing masks of those based on the Winnie the Pooh thing. It's got like a $400 budget. Yeah. Yeah. That kind of is how it feels.

Anyways, Amy, as always, such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Lovely to see you both. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Oh, yeah. Follow me on Instagram at amymillercomedy. And then my website's just amymillercomedy.com if you want to see if I'm coming to your town. I go to all kinds of towns all the time. Amazing. Chances are good if you live in your town, I go to all kinds of towns all the time. Amazing.

Chances are good. If you live in a town, I'll be there. Towns, towns are really your thing. Or a city or a village. I've always noticed that. Towns,

cities, and villages. Like any grouping of people. Well, that's like what level I'm at. I'm at the town level of comedy success. I've graduated from Hamlets and Islands. Small private islands.

Yeah. Is there a tweet or some work of media you've been enjoying? Oh, yeah. This tweet from Yucky Tom, who I don't know him. I've never seen him on Twitter, but retweeted a couple days ago a couple years ago my buddy explained to me how killing yourself with an oven worked before that i thought sylvia plath just cooked her head and i got retweeted a lot of this because there's like this study on suicide called the british coal gas study that where when they got rid of that gas in ovens like suicide went down so the theory is that like suicide is all about

opportunity and it's not always like a thing where anyways it's a big long like gun control argument oh please send it to me because you don't know this about me but i love reading suicide studies i always have oh yeah wow i like to study the trends i don't want to do it myself but yeah i'm interested it's it's super interesting i talk about it way too much and but people have confused that like because things just get like loosely associated in people's mind they're like oh yeah jack likes coal gas oven suicides and so everybody just sent me that article like like i'm a fan of that this is why we're friends that's right there's a callback gas lighting joke here if anybody was a comedian yeah we're actually going to be working that out i've started a flow chart Or if anybody was a comedian here, we could really. Damn it, mom. Too bad.

Yeah. We're actually going to be working that out. I've started a flow chart, and we'll have something for you in the coming days. Thank you. Awesome. Caitlin, pleasure having you. Thank you so much for having me. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

And is there a tweet or work of media you've been enjoying? You bet. And I'll start with that. You bet. I love your Molly Shannon NPR voice. You bet. The tweet I've been enjoying is from Youngmi Mayer at YM Mayer on Twitter. Says, I respect my brain because sometimes it's all,

you're too much, but sometimes it goes, you're not enough. That's called range. Sad one. And then you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Caitlin Durante. You can listen to my podcast that I co-host with Jamie Loftus called The Bechtelcast, where we examine movies through an intersectional feminist lens.

Yeah, yeah. Amazing. One of the best podcasts out there. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Louis Verkel tweeted, If you're ever in a sudden blackout, the first thing you need to do is yell my diamonds. That's just facts.

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as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer Justin, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah, considering that the topics were pretty heavy and talking about depression and whatnot, I wanted to leave you all with a very happy song. This is a California artist called denya she is uh severely underrated in my opinion you probably heard this song in like a commercial

or a tv show or something and the song is called easy baby it's exactly how it sounds denya kind of describes herself as like pastel r&b artists which i couldn't find a better vibe for that because it's got this kind of like electronic dream pop vibe it's very relaxing it sounds like you know sipping mai tai's or pina coladas on the beach so uh check out this song easy baby by denya you can find that in the footnotes footnotes all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the i, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for us this morning. We are back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we'll talk to you all then.

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