The Daily Zeitgeist - Tesla: The Libs Strike Back, New Capitalist Fear Just Dropped 04.25.24

Episode Date: April 25, 2024

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internet good what is this miles this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness that's what we're doing chris croft scrofton's shared consciousness either one chris crofton's shared consciousness it can be anything it can be anything but yeah today probably america today america's shared consciousness maybe a little bit of nizalyn's uh shared consciousness it is thursday april 25th 2024 that's right ablated happy passover to those uh i think we forgot to monday wish people a happy passover happy passover y'all i was gonna have the earth day also that was also yeah monday yeah we don't do the yeah that's too easy we don't call out what the days are on the trending episode.

I actually, I got invited to a Seder and then disinvited because they remembered I had a baby. And they're like, yeah, it might just kind of like be too hectic. Because these people also had a baby. And I was like, oh, shit. Yeah, yeah, it's all good. But they're like, yeah, your kid's just kind of like running around and shit. I'm like, oh, we can leave him in the car. I just want to eat the haroset.

The full disinvite? I mean, it was... Yeah, your baby's going to fuck up the vibes of this Passover. We're very close friends of ours who just had a baby. Right. So we're like, we get it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway...

Yeah, you're close enough that they can be like, actually, no. Also, yesterday is Armenian Genocide Remembrance Day. That's a big thing in Southern California. My children were off of school for that. Oh, for Abro Santors, I believe is how they say it in Armenian. But yeah. Also, but April 25th, National Hug a Plumber Day. Also, National DNA

Day. Also, National Teach Children to Save Day. Oh, okay. Okay. I was not taught that. I was told to just, if you got it, spend it. National Zucchini Bread Day. National Take Our Daughters and Sons to Work Day. That's was not taught that i was told to just if you got it spend it uh national zucchini bread day national take our daughters and sons to work day that's the picture is two kids dressed in like work attire and it just seems so dystopian is this the official one the official take our kids to it because i feel like that they either have daughters or sons if they do not fall into

those two categories neatly do do not have them. We are not interested. But yeah, this is how this works. I don't know. I think it is. This is also in Canada. So this might be the official one. Did you ever do...

I never had parents who had a job that could take me somewhere. Like my dad was like making art or some shit or going to like do photos. And my mom was like, I work from my house. So yeah, I went to, I went to my dad's job all the time. Oh, must be nice because yeah,

like after school, I think it was more for childcare. Like, but like, Oh yeah. Practice happening. I remember going to grad school with my dad. Running around empty stadiums.

Right. Yeah. That's so funny. You ran around empty stadiums. I ran around the basement of Cal Arts art school where people were like screaming about communism to a three and four year old. There's something very comforting to me at this stage of my life about being on a college campus just because I spent a lot of my early years just like bumming around an empty

college campus. The smell of like a rec center you know like the gym at school you just kind of like yeah just yeah i get it a lot of empty space and dust yeah like uh you know empty space and dust the jack o'brien story empty space and dust that's all we are also on national hug a plumber day don't hug a plumber from behind that's that's what they want and we've seen what they do with their pants i'm finna grab you by the waist and they're like whoa whoa whoa whoa hey anyways no probably not i don't my name is jack o'brien aka three points wasted. Oh, yeah. Three points wasted. Three points wasted. Oh, yeah. This kicker's wasted.

They're all wasted. That is courtesy of Steaming Chunk on the Discord in reference to the theory we formulated the other day that football kicker is the high job of professional sports. Like I had a lot of friends who chose their jobs in their twenties based only on whether they could do that job while high had those friends been professional athletes. I feel like that's the one. Yeah. That's the just be not good enough to make it to MLS soccer in the U.S., you might have an NFL career as a kid. Yeah, yeah. That's kind of... Just like a kick every, you know, 20 minutes or so.

Yeah. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Hey, it's Miles Gray, a.k.a. a bunch... Sorry, this shit got me. A bench near a sign with scheduled times is also known as a bus stop. Okay, shout out to Marky Markarellis for that one.

When I said some people I knew thought Busta was bus stop, but I like a bench near a sign with scheduled times. Also, you nailed the syllable count. It's also known as a bus stop. So shout out to you, Marky Markarellis. Yeah, really well done on that one. Miles, speaking of well done. So shout out to you, Marky Markarellis. Yeah. Really well done on that one. Miles, speaking of well done, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our most eagerly anticipated second guests. Yeah.

Well done on just a fucking podcast professional sat here quietly the whole time, just waiting to be intro'd. He's been around. sat here quietly the whole time, just waiting to be intro'd. He's been around. Co-host of the podcast, The Worst Idea of All Time with Guy Montgomery, which is celebrating 10 years since they started February 2014. And they have clocked over 20 million downloads. They're going to recognize their 10 years of utter podcast domination

with a victory lap of replaying season one. Yes one yes them re-listening to every episode of season one and doing a short reflective preamble before each one releasing on the stream he's a very funny stand-up comedian tv writer producer chat show host welcome to the show the hilarious the talented tim burr i can talk now. Yeah, you're welcome. I have to wait till you say my name and then I'll pop out. And then you fly out. Three times, Tim Batt, Tim Batt, Tim Batt. Here he is, Beatlegeist.

How you been, man? It's been too many years. Good, dude. I've got to say something up top. You've gone through all the national days that it is today. I really thought you were leading up to this. So it's Anzac Day here in New Zealand. It's actually like a public holiday. Yeah. this today i really thought you're leading up to this so it's anzac day here in new zealand it's

actually like a public holiday yeah and it is crazy that i got up to do a podcast because this is kind of the closest thing that we have to veterans day right it was like a a wartime massacre on new zealand soldiers on this day in 1915 in a part of Turkey. Yeah, yeah, right. Gallipoli? There you go. With Mel Gibson? Yeah.

You got it. That was like the first war movie my mom showed me. She's like, you'll like this. I was like five. I was like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, Gallipoli's fucking intense. Anyway, sorry, go on. It's intense.

I mean, but to be fair, it was a pretty intense thing. Yeah, yeah. To use John Fetterman's language, we got smoked yeah it's not good oh no well happy anzac day uh sorry yeah as as a new zealander i'm supposed to be at like a cenotaph somewhere right now doing the dawn service but i was like i'm gonna get up for the dawn service of the daily zeitgeist that's right would you actually go would you actually are i mean are you are you that uh patriotic that I'm going to get up for the dawn service of the Daily Zeitgeist. There you go. That's right. Would you actually go? Would you actually?

I mean, are you that patriotic that you're like? I've gone before, but only a couple times. Yeah. But not every year. Not now. I've got, I'm like, I got a young kid. Like, you got to prioritize your own sanity a little bit. Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah.

Oh, well, enjoy a Lamington on this day. Nice. Nice local reference. What is a Lamington? It's like a cake. For the listener, obviously. It's like a sponge cake with chocolate

and like coconut, I think. Yeah. Right? Yeah, you got it. And it comes in two flavors. So you got chocolate or you got raspberry.

Oh, yeah. That sounds wonderful. That's all the Australian touch points I know is from briefly dating an australian for about three weeks and i was like tell me everything so i can pretend i know what it's like there's a couple there's a couple things like um lamingtons and uh i guess russell crowe that new zealand doesn't australians fight over who owns that thing oh really yeah yeah it's contentious i didn contentious. I didn't know that.

Okay. You should give them his music career and you take his movie career. Who gets like... Has he been charged with anything? He gets in fights a bit. Yeah. He threw that phone at a hotel employee one time.

Oh, yeah. Let's see. He was 2005 charged with felony assault and fourth degree criminal possession of a weapon after he threw a telephone the weapon in question the weapon in question the telephone yeah those people might not remember but a lot of our listeners might not remember a time when telephones were a thing but those things were like heavier than they seemingly needed to be right oh you know like there was some especially like rotary ones i feel like they just like it's made with iron

yeah there's like 15 pounds of lead in there for some reason right yeah it was in case you needed to hit your assistant with something and you didn't have your briefcase nearby yeah yeah yeah the executives at ge were like and somebody's gonna need to hit their assistant with these and you didn't have your briefcase nearby. Yeah. You just had to wipe down all the phones. Yeah. The executives at GE were like, and somebody's going to need to hit their assistant with these every once in a while. So we should give it some heft. Yes. Yes.

Good call, Jack. Amazing. Wasn't the guy named Jack something? Jack. Yes. I forget. Welsh. It wasn't a reference to you.

Yeah. Walsh. Welsh. Jack Welch. Bad, bad person, it turns out. Who's like the guy Baldwin was basing his Donaghy off of, right? Yeah, Donaghy off of. Yeah, right.

Yeah. Just truly amazing. We should just do a dive on him. What did he do that was bad? What was his playbook? Just all the capitalism stuff, like treated employees badly, rewrote history.

So he was like a maverick. Oh, cool. Just, yeah, there, there's like weird things with like drunk driving and just, uh,

I don't know. I just remember. He sounds like an American hero. Yeah. Well, like an American hero slash shouldn't, this is what's wrong with us. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Type of guy.

I remember there being a Jack Welch book on my dad's bookshelf. Like Jack's way or some shit like that. He was real into leadership literature. And then recently heard some podcasts that told the true history of him and it wasn't or maybe it was like a mouth it was like somebody who i wouldn't expect to be anti jack welsh i think it was actually a malcolm gladwell article and it was like this guy's a fucking dick really really not cool for as much as people lionize him. Was he part of that wave of American captains of industry at a particular time who just went, we are going to fire everyone we can?

Yes. This is our brilliant insight. And treat everyone like shit. Yeah. insight and treat everyone like shit yeah get a c-suite that's really well looked after and and just try and basically dedicate everything to jumping the stock price up day after day yeah creating shareholder value that is the heroic way of describing exactly quick greatest hits he fought a 20-year battle with the environmental protection agency in the state of new york over polychlorinated biphenyls, forever chemicals,

and said that there's no cause for concern over health consequences. Let's see, he called the Obama administration's prioritization of addressing climate change, radical behavior. He was also like against anything that was like curbing CEO pay. He's like, it's outrageous if you think like workers aren't making enough. Like, yeah, it's just typical. That's nuts. Those chemicals, I'm'm pretty sure those were the stuff that was in hairspray right yeah which is like the one time that planet earth has actually come together and listened to the scientists and went oh shit we got to do something about this and we did it and it fixed the problem which was the big hole in the ozone layer literally the only time we've pulled it off and

jack was like no way brother no you guys are freaking out yeah yeah freaking out yeah i think we need like a hole there's like having that physical hole in the ozone layer i think was really helpful for us to be like well that can't be good right yeah so yeah i guess looking at just gigantic swaths of land burning up in flames, isn't it? Yeah. I don't know about that, though. Yeah. It's probably the it's probably the homeless people did that.

It's funny. Like, oh, probably actually just that hyper capitalism has run away from us and we can't pump the brakes like we used to in the 80s. That notoriously socialist time of the 80s i remember i was fucking scared of like breaking styrofoam cups in that time like for i feel like there was like some i don't this might have been true or a wives tale an old wives tale it's sort of like like when you break uh certain kinds of styrofoam it's like releasing shit into the air and i was like don't break the stuff like i remember being so stressed out as a kid, like eating like a cup of noodles and then like,

like carefully put in the garbage can. So it wouldn't get crushed. I'm sure it's just some bullshit that I, which is so funny. Cause we're pouring like boiling hot water into the, into it. Like we're probably just drinking it. Yeah.

100%. Right. Yeah. I'm trying to remember what it is from this Gladwell article. There's this part at the end where he refuses to put on his seatbelt and then drives on the left side of the road all the way through a golf club that he's a member of just to prove that true... Oh, here it is. So they talk about he was having lunch with golfer Phil Mickelson and the CEO of Barclays came over to pay homage. Then in time of C-suite,

then Welch offered to drive Cohen back to his house a few miles away. They get into his Jeep Cherokee and Welch refused to put it on his seatbelt. So the warning bell chimed the whole route right back. Off he drove. When he got to the left turnout of the Nantucket Golf Club onto Milestone Road, he did something odd drove when he got to the left turnout of the

nantucket golf club onto milestone road he did something odd instead of keeping to the right side of milestone road as other american drivers do he decided to drive in the middle of the road with the cherokees straddling the yellow line needless to say the drivers coming toward us on milestone road were freaking out one after another they all put off to the right onto the grassy edge of the street giving jack full clearance to continue driving down the middle of the road. He didn't seem to notice. So there's nothing about people going, oh, it's Jack Welsh. We better get out of his way.

It's like some fucking lunatic is trying to kill himself on this road driving down the middle of the lane. Oh, man. Just yeah. Just, yeah. And like, that's the impression you get just throughout is just, he's just, he refuses to admit that he is not the most important person in the world in any interaction and will like lie and fire and dominate people. It's really an interesting profile. How easy it is when you've got that attitude that you do rise to the top. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like you have to have something truly deeply wrong with you to be a billionaire. Yeah. It's kind of like talk about that later on. Yeah. It's living your life like you're driving down the middle of the road. Yeah. Everyone's like, oh, God, I don't want to deal with this.

I know people like that. I know. People were like, the fuck are they going to do? Yeah. Yeah. It's that I think we all know people like that. I know. Yeah. People were like, the fuck are they going to do? Yeah. Yeah. It's that. I think we all know somebody with that attitude, but some didn't have wealthy enough parents that they could just sort of skip steps into like the elite. And then in the U S we write books about those people called like Jack's

way. Yeah. The Jack driving down the middle of the fucking street. It does not caring if anybody is made uncomfortable or if their safety is put at risk. Well, Tim, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about later. So Tesla is not doing great, which sucks because like Elon is, you know, he's like tony he's our tony star he's like our iron man and like it just hurts my feelings when he doesn't uh no he's obviously like piece of shit and

his shittiness is like coming back to bite him in very predictable ways. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about resenteeism. New capitalism fear just dropped. Like this is an article written by bosses and C-suite people being like, like they had quiet quitting and now this is the new panic

of like how employees are mistreating them. We're not trying hard enough at work. Resenteeism, guys. That is, sorry to say, an absolute whiff on the title of that new fear. All of that, plenty more. But first, Tim, we do like to ask ask our guest what is something from your search history just the term sam neill who i don't know if you remember yeah the actor fantastic actor he's still

around i say remember like he died yeah he didn't die he is very much with us he's a legend of course yeah anyone who is in jurassic park will always be invincible in my mind yeah wait well why sam neill oh i'm just gonna tell you i'm pretty sure i'm not supposed to talk about this Mark will always be invincible in my mind. Yeah. Wait, well, why Sam Neill? Oh, I'm just going to tell you. I'm pretty sure I'm not supposed to talk about this. Oh, well, don't jeopardize anything. But you and Sam Neill are engaged to be married? Or what?

Jack, you said you'd let him handle that. Way to steal my thunder, dude. I'm sorry, sorry, sorry. Way to kneel his thunder. Give a girl a chance. So I did this podcast for, our version of NPR is Radio New Zealand. And me and my mate Carlo Ritchie did a podcast a couple of years ago called Did Titanic Sink?

Which is exploring episode by episode this conspiracy theory that the Titanic was switched with its sister ship, the Olympic, which got damaged by a naval vessel. And so they gave it a paint job, called it the Titanic, set it out to sink it intentionally for insurance money, but then it accidentally hit an iceberg at that point and killed everyone.

And so my friend Kyle was like, So the iceberg was not even part of it. No. Correct, yeah. So they had this whole plan to basically sink it slowly because it was the Titanic, I'm using scare quotes, the so-called Titanic was set out and it was on fire when it left port. Like there was a big raging fire in the coal bunker. And so Carlo reckoned what was supposed to happen is they lit it on fire and it was supposed to sink slowly.

And there were a bunch of ships in the surrounding area that would have been called in from the distress signal. And they would have had time to get everyone safely off board. And then the ship itself just would have sunk and they would have collected the insurance money. But then they had an iceberg and the plan got funky and it happened too quick and because of the fire that had like jeopardized the structural integrity of the ship it sunk way quicker than like if it was supposed to in the worst case scenario and that's why everyone died so anyway we did it's kind of like it's a it's a pretty crazy conspiracy theory but carlo is obsessed with the titanic and he has assembled like all of the historic evidence to support this theory and step me through it episode

by episode so we we just got greenlit to do a second season of this podcast i don't think i'm supposed to like announce that yet but there's an exclusive for you guys. Oh, shit, right there, baby. They can't keep the conspiracies out, baby. And it's a new conspiracy theory? Well, there's a bit where I won't spoil what the premise of season two is, but it's pretty juicy.

And I was trying to get Sam Neill to do some voicing on the podcast itself. Wow. Because the second season will involve this book, and we want someone really with a fantastic voice to read some passages from the book. So I reached out to his agent, and unfortunately, Sam Neill would not be joining us on the podcast for close to zero money.

Damn. What's his fucking problem? that's amazing though i did not know about this conspiracy theory it's wild he owns a vineyard now so he's he's happy yeah that that is the that is like the symbol that's what when people are like yeah i own a vineyard now it's like oh my bad oh oh you're like oh i'm sorry going forward i'll see myself out yeah you're dying a slow vineyard death. Oh, you're like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm going forward. I'll see myself out. Yeah. You're dying a slow vineyard death. Is that what you're doing?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to expire amongst the vines here. Going to expire with an orange in my mouth. I will not have a bad word said against Sam Neill, though. He's just such a thoroughly fantastic dude. He does a lot of like Instagramming and stuff, and it's just, it's him blissing out. Really?

Yeah. like instagramming and stuff and it's just it's him blissing out really yeah there's a certain there's a certain level of like older wealthy person who i don't yeah who's the who's the british um rich uh is it richard e grant have you seen his instagram no it is nuts it's just him running around like a little girl being excited about the fact that it's raining outside just unbridled joy on his face about smelling a flower or like a fresh baguette yeah holy shit wow we only aspire to to have social media feeds like that don't we yeah richard e grant that everybody of course remembers from the spice girls movie hudson, the Spice Girls movie. Yeah.

I guess Game of Thrones, but more importantly, yes, Hudson Hawk and the Spice Girls movie. Spice World, let's be, you know... Sorry. Let's respect the material, please. I'm sorry. It's just been a while since I've spiced up my life. When aliens pop out and they're all horny,

I wasn't expecting that. Oh, and he's the dad from Salt Burn. He's got a real nose for some interesting work. He's distinguished. We call it having a distinguished look. That's right. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And Tim, we do like to ask our guest, what is something you think is underrated?

I'm going to say Space Ghost, Coast to Coast. Oh, yeah. I don't know if you guys are familiar. It sounds like mine. Oh, hell yeah. Oh, yeah. I was watching Cartoon Network. Yeah. Yeah. It's celebrating its 30th, going to say space ghost coast to coast oh yeah i don't know if you guys are familiar it sounds like oh hell yeah oh yeah i was celebrating network yeah yeah it's celebrating its 30th

birthday at the moment and this is the show that like launched adult swim like this is the the thing yeah so i've loved space ghost like i stumbled on it when i was probably about 14 years old right coming home from a party kind of drunk and just turned on Cartoon Network at like one in the morning. Damn, you were 14 coming home from a party drunk and decided, that sounds like some 28-year-old behavior. We build them different in New Zealand. I know, god damn. We start early. Kiwis, okay.

I'm not proud of that, but I'm also not going to lie to you guys. Yeah, yeah, I get it, yeah. Just got off my shift in the coal mine. Yeah, just working with mines. Yeah, exactly. So I'm punching through a pack of Lucky Strike and I flick on the TV and there's this crazy cartoon. And it's like, if you haven't seen it before,

it's a chat show hosted by this 1960s cartoon hero, which is really quite badly drawn. But they punch in the guest and the guest is filmed on camera. So the guest isn't animated. And they had like really famous guests. So they're doing a big replay live stream at the moment, which is probably still going on YouTube to sort of celebrate the 30th year. Like Conan's on it tom york's in an episode oh wow york and this is like real heavy hitters and the show is yeah it's just like built for stoners yeah like the writing is is crazy and it was the first kind of

thing i saw as a teenager where i was like, oh, man, this is my shit. Like, I didn't know that I was supposed to smoke weed until I saw Space Ghost Coast to Coast. You know what I mean? It sort of like went that way around. It was like, oh, this comedy is so great that I should start smoking marijuana, which I didn't until much later, I will say. Don't touch that stuff if you're under like 20. I got to say that. Right.

Thank you. Drink when you're 14, 20. I got to say that. Right. Thank you. Thank you. Drink when you're 14, but not the way. Yes, of course. And then also, I feel like the first appearance of like Aqua Teen Hunger Force was also on Space Ghost too. That's right. There was the Christmas episode.

Yeah. A lot of shit comes from the tree of Space Ghost that for me, and then I was like, I was all in on Aqua Teen too. I was like, this shit is fucking yeah i just love that absurd that master shape was a totally different character in that in that version when in the christmas episode he's like some kind of whiny white dude in there right and i'm glad that they kind of like changed the dynamic but yeah it was the same oh wait is that right Is that right? No, sorry. Frylock. Frylock's different?

Frylock's different. Frylock had legs, I feel like, visually. Much like with the Supreme Court, I'm actually an originalist. So I think that no character should ever change. I actually prefer the first episode of The Simpsons. I think the animation was better back then. I prefer the Tracy Ullman show depictions of The Simpsons. They looked like their faces were melting. Yeah.

And Homer was like this. Come on, boy. Come on, boy. We're hungry. Like, what the fuck? I remember being so alarmed when I saw the Tracy Ullman version of those characters. I'm like, what the fuck was going on here? Hey, is The Simpsons back?

I've been hearing online that like the simpsons is back you guys watching again yeah i i haven't been watching no i i've i'm i'm an i'm also an originalist i'm an original a first aid season just yeah uh but i know but i i have heard that repeatedly actually people like no like it's it's funny again that's good i mean probably in a way that's, like, not disappointing. But I think I've moved on from, like, my deep love of The Simpsons in that sense. I'm like, I got to come back to Springfield, baby. Yeah, maybe.

Everyone's a while. I'll just fall in a hole. I had a segment in it. I did a comedy show in the New Zealand Comedy Festival, like, four years ago. Which actually was just me ripping off Space Ghost. I did like a chat show, like a comedy chat show thing. It was called Space Couch in honor of Space Ghost. Sounds like interesting.

Lately informed by Space Ghost. I wrote this whole thing where, so the couch that the guest would sit on was brought into space by the Russians and then got blasted by cosmic radiation and became sentient. And I got Paul F. Tompkins to voice the couch. Oh, shit.

So during the show, we got to talk back and forth to the couch and then we'd get a guest on. I had a musician friend of mine, Disaster Radio, a.k.a. Eyeliner. If you're into vaporwave, he's like the OG. He's the man. He was my band leader on it. And we had a segment called Let the Simpsons Die. So he and I made up this video package that was just a bunch of famous

comedians in New Zealand going, hey, I grew up with the Simpsons. I love the Simpsons. Simpsons means everything to me. You've got to pull the plug on that fucking show, man. We've got to end this thing. For the good of everyone, for the good of the show you gotta say die it's gone baby it's gone really seriously addressing the camera yeah yeah totally like you know sad piano music minor chords oh hell yeah that's amazing and you would have pulled

the plug too soon because apparently it's back. Apparently it's back, baby. Baby, what is something you think is overrated? It's almost overdone to say this, but Tesla's, man. And I've been delighted to see the stock price kind of tumble the last little while. I don't know why I'm following this, but just if you kind of drill, man, I'm so. Oh, sorry. For our American listeners, he said Teslas. I just want to clarify that. Some people were like, yes, we're talking Tesla.

Go on, sorry. If there's two things I hate, it is vowel sounds and the Tesla company. Well, yeah, that's a just a disaster in motion although but they pulled it off which is so crazy to me because there's there's a couple of there's like a couple books out there i kind of got real deep there's a podcast called true and on who did a three-part series on the history of tesla as a company and like they really frauded their way to the to getting on the nasdaq and and getting to the position that they're in now which is too big to fail which is so freaky yeah yeah that's just the plan yeah there's like a way to do it yeah it's a

bad it's a bad fucking company dude and those cars seem to be just quietly like killing quite a few people oh yeah and and every time it sort of comes up the company like sues the people into not saying anything i don't want to i don't want to get you guys trouble here no no i mean you you've heard our ads we read a lot of ads for Tesla on this show. I'm actually recording this from a Tesla. On autopilot. As per our contract. It's on autopilot. On autopilot, obviously.

Got to focus on the show, man. That's how you got to do it. But just what a shit show. There's Cybertruck, man. I can't believe that actually came out. And it's an indictment that anyone bought it. But it's so bad. It was breaking in a car.

The guy was like I got it washed and it stopped working they're like and then the service center is like did you put it in car wash mode they're like

what it's a fucking car and it's like well now we gotta reboot it you can't drive it for five hours while we reboot it remotely

and you're like is this a fucking car what is this wait you didn't put it in car wash mode dude it's absurd every time i read about i mean we'll get into it that was the story but every time it's just fucking it's a comp well fuck it let's just get into it fuck it yeah i mean it's our first story yeah yeah what a what a professional he even made his overrated uh First Story of the Day. God damn, Tim's a f***ing podcast. Multiple dick kicks for Elon Musk over the last few weeks.

For once, we have something in common with Elon Musk. Miles and I got spectacularly multiple dick kicked in our NBA fandom in the past week. And Elon taking some direct blow to the dick. Multis. in our NBA fandom in the past week. And, uh, Elon take, taken some of these direct to the dick DK multi, multi DK MDKs murder, death kills as they call them in the reality of, uh, what is it?

Uh, demolition, man. But anyway, yeah. In the last few weeks we saw videos of cyber trucks, uh, where people's fucking like this so stupid.

They want you to shift gears like on the touch screen So like in case that shit Shits out They've put a mounted A windshield mounted gear selector Panel for you to like manually Do it They switch gears via

Touch screen That is such a fucking nightmare That is such a disaster The other way such a disaster the other way is this fucking windshield it's a windshield fucking mounted uh like one of those dancers yeah yeah yeah i guess that's dashboard mounted but yeah yeah exactly like with a suction cup what i can't even like picture what you're describing. Here, let me show you a picture. Like it'll be easier.

Well, you know how you want to see through your windshield, Elon? So you know what's better than that? Just looking at your gear shift. Not seeing. Another screen. Everybody knows that people want to see through their windshield. So this presupposes. You see this thing right here?

You can touch park reverse neutral drive. Someone had their windshield serviced and they tried to touch it and it just flopped right off. That's going to happen. Did you not put it in touch it mode? They're also saying it's like fucking up the sun visor.

Former engineers are like, what a fuck up. This is the most high use part of a fucking car. Fucking pet's heads are falling off. It's what a fuck up. This is like the most high use part of a fucking car. And like fucking pet's heads are falling off. It's just a fucking disaster. So then the wild, the wildest one was the accelerator. Dude. So yes.

Oh, that was a bit like somebody did. Somebody released a video where they're like, so I found this on my floor and I didn't know what it was it turned out it was the accelerator pedal it slid off i put it back on then it slid up and got jammed between the panels in the footwell so it caused like it's the nightmare thing the like out of control acceleration it's final destination yeah it's final destination like. Yeah, it's final destination. Like they built a final destination machine. And thank God the guy who it happened to, that it was him,

because he did that video and he's like, hey, I just want to sort of highlight this potential design for it. And was super chill. And he was like, look, I got to say, I was able to keep my cool. The car was suddenly speeding out of control.

So I started applying the brake. But if I was in a car and I didn't know what was going on and it just started accelerating and I was not doing, I would freak the fuck out. I probably would kill multiple people by accident. Well, and you would because the fucking thing is 7,000 fucking pounds. You know what I mean? You've created a- Like a coffin. Like an unstoppable, yeah, 7,000 pound fucking behemoth. fucking pounds you know what i mean like you've created a like a coffin like a unstoppable yeah

7 000 pound fucking behemoth where the accelerator anyway so that led to a second recall for the holy shit it really weighs 7 000 pounds i thought no that's not a joke dude it weighs 7 000 fucking like it nothing makes fucking sense you can't go through a fucking car wash allegedly uh and the shit's falling off allegedly but the pedals definitely fucked up because y'all did a recall because he said it might cause unintentional acceleration what a euphemistic description of you will die in a 7 000 pound as the internet calls it the incel camino um which i think is a fantastic joke name for that but then camino then, aside from that,

there are reports about how Musk's just shitheaded antics are pissing off the libs. That's right. While Elon may get a kick out of it and sip in the liberal tears, he should remind himself that the libs are the ones that actually made Tesla popular in the first place.

And sales have dropped 60% among that group, according to surveys. They said they found just lower consumer interest in Tesla in general, but they said Democrats really start to drop off significantly in October of last year. They made up 40% of Tesla sales for the 2022 model year and 39% in 2023. when the 2024 model year teslas went on sale the number of democrats in the mix dropped to 15 so do you know i actually did that on purpose uh yeah because fuck them you know right but the other thing is too despite him being like the right wing darling of the internet those people are too hopped up on fox news that they really think driving an ev will like make them gay and allow joe biden to take your truck nuts away and they're like yeah i'm

good on that so they aren't exactly making up for the lost sales from the liberals which has now led to around 14 000 people are gonna get let go from tesla they're like slashing prices like they're like it's like fucking a fire sale and my current owner's like i just oh shit i just spilled water all over my fucking desk um oh shit see this is what happens my karma for talking about fucking elon musk so your desk is more waterproof than a cyber truck so it seems like oh dude i dumped so much oh shit give me one second dude dude. Do we have computers down? What the fuck?

Oh, my God. People who are familiar with my other podcast know I do this very frequently sometimes. Miles, what is happening over there? This seems more dramatic than you spilled a drink bottle. This is like someone's shit. It's still spilling. I've absolutely fucked the bed, mate. That's pretty good. I can tell you've been

talking to a lot of Aussies and Kiwis. Oh, shit. Whatever, dude. It's all fucked. Alright, we're back. We're back. Fuck it. You know, I'll deal with it. We'll deal with it later. I think it's mostly... Oh, shit. No, it's getting all over the fucking DNA. how much water came out of this damn bottle man look at it's a

fucking it's like a near 40 ounce cup oh no that sucks yeah i bought it to drink alcohol cheekily at a hotel because i didn't want to pay like the pool bar prices so i was like let's just fill this fucking nondescript stainless steel mug up with vodka. Nice. Yeah. And now I think the karma's bit me in the ass. All right. You're not owed karma for wanting to drink vodka. Yeah.

Every time you think it's cool and then you go back and you're like, and now this thing is also fucked. I'm going to be like, oh shit, it's all over my car now. It's like a Shaggy Dog comedy sketch. Like next thing you know, water's going to start spraying up onto your face. Oh shit. It's all over my car now. It's like a shaggy dog comedy sketch. Like, next thing you know, water is going to, like, start spraying up onto your face. Oh, shit. What the fuck? It's fucking everywhere. All right.

Anyway. God, I really should invest in one of those sippy cups. That's, there I am. Like a baby? You're better than that, Miles. Don't let one spill get you down. You're an adult man. At this point, Tim, it's like fucking multiple.

Maybe you can't. I got it all over my rolling papers. Those are ruined. Where was I? I will bring you back in because I know what you're talking about. You're so right about the Tesla fire sale stuff. If you go on Twitter now, you get all of his tweets like forced down your throat just by going on to the website like it's a damn pop-up from hell and it's right it's just every

second one is talking about the woke mind virus and then it'll be followed up with oh by the way eight thousand dollars off the model s right now it's the cheapest car running cost that exists on earth like you know when elon is tweeting the sales pitch for tesla's yeah the company has a problem yeah we're in desperation mode fully fully but anyway like now what we're seeing is they just had a fucking earnings call and they revealed analysts are like it's not going to be a bad year we're predicting around 40 drop off in profits they even shocked the analysts like yeah about a 55 drop off in profits. They even shocked the analysts and like, yeah, about a 55% drop off in profits. And it was like spitting their fucking NyQuil out of their mouths being like, what did he just say? And, but the thing is, worry not the stock price

had a 10% bounce because it was announced that they are working on new models and AI robotics. Get ready. So someone on the call asked a very direct question to Elon Musk on that earnings call. And they said, you know, we know sales are slumping in China. What are your thoughts on the EV market in China? Like, because that was a huge part of like the profitability of the company. And Elon just pivoted and said, quote, really, we should be thought of as an AI robotics company. And Elon just pivoted and said, quote, really, we should be thought of as an AI robotics company. If you value Tesla as just an auto company, you just have to fundamentally, that's

just the wrong framework. If you ask the wrong question, then the right answer is impossible. If somebody doesn't believe Tesla is going to solve autonomy, I think they should not be an investor in the company. So he just said, wow, you hear that? You fucking haters. Tesla isn't even a car company anymore. You fucking idiot. We're doing a botnet of cars. He responded to this very straightforward question about like the fundamentals of the

business by being like, you know what? I don't want you to invest in the company. You don't get to have Tesla stock. He sounds like Harlan Williams in something about Mary when he's talking about his like seven minute abs thing. Yeah. And then they're like, unless someone comes up with seven minute abs. Like, no, it's fucking the magic numbers. Eight.

Like, you're like, whoa, dude, I'm just asking a fucking question. Oh, man. To your earlier point, point tim like this shit works i mean yeah there was a 10 rebound he knows like this is his skill right he is good at talking the sort of shit that the markets respond to like that's all that that is his skill he didn't invent tesla He didn't found Tesla. He like came along and recognized that it was a good sales pitch to Wall Street. And that is his genius is jumping in there.

He's not Tony Stark. He's 100% Donald Trump. The early days of the company, they missed. And I mean, they still continue to do this a bit. But definitely back in the early days when he first got involved, of the company, they missed, and I mean, they still continue to do this a bit, but definitely back in the early days when he first got involved, he would just announce that they were going to ship the craziest number of cars. They would never get anywhere even fucking close to delivering year after year.

They would announce models that would never come out. They would announce technology. I mean, these things were supposed to be autonomous self-driving in like 2019. And there's video compilations that people have put out where it's just like every nine months months away months away from going coast to coast in autopilot he would say all the time the the the true like sort of untold secret of of tesla is that what happened in the early days of the company is the obama administration issued all of these tax credits to car companies that said that they were going to build ev fleets

and you got a particular number of tax credits based on how many how what percentage of your total fleet was going to be ev and so tesla was like it's a hundred percent of hours and we're going to make a bazillion cars right and. And then he could like sell those credits to other car companies, right? And so they didn't even build the cars they said that they were going to build that they got the tax credits for. So they'd never delivered on that promise,

but it didn't matter. They got awarded the tax credits anyway. Now those tax credits are not being issued anymore. So they're worth an insane amount of money. And they made all of their money by selling those credits to Toyota and to Mitsubishi and all these other car companies. So every time that they had to do like an earnings report and you could see all the sales data, they weren't selling enough cars. But then they would just sell a fuck ton of these tax credits to be able to boost the share price quarter after quarter. Like the whole thing was a goddamn scheme yeah but he managed to pull it off for so long

yeah he got listed in the nasdaq and now the thing is like too big to fall over fully and then and that's yeah i mean his greatest skill business is that he is able to blow whimsical smoke up our collective assholes and people are like, yeah, I think so. Because like, when he said Tesla is going to solve autonomy. Like, again, to your point, how long has this fuck with? If you don't think Tesla is going to solve autonomy,

don't even talk to me. Get out. Get the fuck out of here. Like, I don't even want you. And like, yeah, you start doing that cult shit. They're like, you're not a true believer? Then there's the fucking door. Guess what, asshole? And they're like, no, no, no, I'll buy more, actually. They're like, you're not a true believer? There's the fucking door. Guess what, asshole? And they're like, no, no, no. I'll buy more, actually. I'm going to buy more because of what you said.

And to your point, they've been on the brink of fully autonomous cars with nothing to show for. What about the fucking Hyperloop? What about that, asshole? How many fucking fake ass things has he sold people? as he sold people and when you talk about the latest thing that came out about autopilot was a fucking guy who killed a motorcyclist because he let elon jesus take the wheel while he was browsing on his fucking phone and he killed a fucking motorcycle guy like in washington this happened like last week those are the stories you get about autopilot not about how fucking amazingly autonomous the whole shit is did you see that YouTube video where they were testing

its child detection camera system? Oh, it's scary. I can't remember what channel did it, but they were like, look, we're getting a lot of people talk shit about Teslas, but actually the guidance systems, I don't think it's as bad as everyone's saying. They've made cardboard cutouts of kids

and it would drive up to the kid and slow down and then stop and they were like see this thing works and then no foot on the accelerator would just start going again the car would just plow through the kid so it would slow down and stop next to them and then just go again holy got the pat on the back for passing the stop test and then yeah like keeps going for yeah exactly oh my god that Oh my God. That's amazing. All right. Well, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about resenteeism, a phrase that it feels like Elon Musk

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Now they're resent-e-isming. No, what's that? Yeah. What the fuck this means? The newest capitalist fear that just dropped that all your fellow C-suite employees are going to be talking about. Yeah. It's a mixture of absenteeism and resentment. It seems like it's the same thing as Quiet Quitting.

They just got angrier about it. And so now they're like, really, they're like resentful little assholes. It's actually Omicron version now of the same thing, which is just worker alienation, I believe, as Marx called it. the same thing which is just worker alienation i believe as marks called it but anyway like yes i love when these stories they inevitably pop up in these business-centric outlets like cnbc or the wall street journal or forbes and it's always like aka the entire u.s media yeah right potentially right there was like we got to be on high alert for the new way the workers are fucking around and they always treat it like this mist like the fucking havana syndrome that we got to be on high alert for the new way the workers are fucking around. And they always treat it like this mist, like the fucking Havana syndrome that managers need to be on high alert for. It's like, there's a fucking thing taking over.

Just this description, right? It's a growing trend where employees continue working in roles they find dissatisfying because they either can't find a better suited job or think they won't be able to. It's an evolved version of quiet quitting. Like in evolved, there's an evolution of this. It's called work, guys. This has been the case for centuries, maybe thousands of years. This is for workers. Not only are they disengaged, but they are resentful about it. Quiet quitting was about working on autopilot to reduce stress. Resenteeism is about feeling trapped in your role. And since these quote unquote journalists are incapable of looking at things through the prism of a capitalist critique, they observe things like worker alienation playing out in their

fucking faces and are like, what's this new phenomenon? And why is it affecting the younger people? What the fuck is going on? We literally made it illegal to unionize, but for some reason the workers also aren't happy. What the hell is going on? They said a remarkable 47% of Gen Z respondents say they're coasting by at work, with only 40% saying they are thriving. The younger generation is also most likely to say

they're just working for a paycheck, 42%, while older generations are more likely to say they are, quote, fired up about their jobs. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. I'm fired up because my boss just said I'm a rock star. Oh, no! If you're fired up or thriving at work,

I'm sorry, I don't want to hang out with you at all. I'm pulling an Elon Musk on you. You can leave the room. You are not an investor in Tim Inc. That's a crazy thing. If you've got a normal job, if you've got a normal ass nine to five, you're not supposed to love it. It's this crazy thing of how we talk about jobs and how it's written about

that you're supposed to be there because you love the role and i think the only reason that sort of like language that idea exists is because bosses the sort of you know the managerial class successfully managed to trick us into not talking about pay so that we could compare rates with each other to kind of gain a little bit of bargaining power against against the capitalist basically and so now we could compare rates with each other to kind of gain a little bit of bargaining power against the capitalists, basically. And so now we've got the situation where we've got this whole fake language about how everyone's at work because they're fucking psyched to be there. Dude, everyone's working for money, man.

That's the reason you go to work is to pay your mortgage, is to pay your rent. It's so you can eat and have a roof over your head. Can we stop fucking pretending it's about something else right yeah it's the toil it's the fucking toil and it's like oh no these workers are feeling alienated from their labor like they feel like they have no decision making power and how their labor is exploited or they don't get a return on the value they create through their exploited labor like i it Like, what's the fucking point? Yeah, a lot of people are arriving at this realization.

I think really the biggest thing missing from this analysis is how the promise of social mobility through quote unquote work has paid off less and less and less as the years go on. Of course, boomers and Gen Xers are fucking fired up because, and more engaged they were because they were told going to college means you can buy a house and be middle class and that was mostly true for them yeah and then millennials less so and gen z even fucking less

they can already see in high school fucking mid junior high that like you can already see kids being like what's this fucking world that you live in you just toil not to make ends meet and pretend like it's not a fucking nightmare that you have no social protection like no social wealth like none of this and the media is beat is i guess bringing back the simpsons doing the principal skinner meme where they're like am i out of touch no it's the children who are wrong it It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what it is. It's fucking resenteeism. Like anything but actually getting to the fucking crux of what people are experiencing.

It's just wild that we find all these new ways to describe this shit. Yeah, there's going to be like Forbes poetry competitions, like, you know, big poetry slams before we actually get to a capitalist critique being published right yeah is something wrong with this system no it's called toil burnout oh okay what's that i think people just aren't recognizing enough that here at tesla we're family and you're a very family family because you don't have time to spend at home so we kind of just default become your family because we're the only human beings you ever see right and if you if you ever needed evidence that conservatives are full of shit that right there that was the dream that was kind of like the dream that you go to work and you're part of a family. You're part of a work family. Aren't you guys the sort of coalition of family values?

We were supposed to be, you know, hanging out with our kids and our spouse. We just said that. Get the Bible thumpers into the polls. That's all really. Get back to work. Yeah. It's just such a. Getting that salt mine.

And it just really is this. You know, it's just like this. It's the disillusionment that's so mine. And it just really is this, I, I, you know, it's just like this, it's the disillusionment that young people feel when you go through this process. I went through it myself, graduating college when the fucking market crashed in 2007, 2008. And being like,

dude, I, my whole fucking life. They say, go to try and go to college, get a degree. You'll get a job. Then you can,

you can, you enter the middle class. And there's that shit is full on vaporware now. Yeah. To then be like scratch your head and be like, why are they like, look, because you guys have already gone to this point. You don't realize how little the opportunity is for younger people and that there aren't even programs in place to be like, yeah, guess what, man? Work under the threat of being unhoused and dying in the street. Those are your motivations.

The boomers didn't have to pull the ladder up as well. Like there was a way to do it where they sort of prospered and then, you know, their time in the sun came to an end and they sort of shared up their stack, but that just, they bought all of the houses and then turn them into this weird financial commodity. But I've been thinking recently about this.

People our age, when I entered the – so I did some jobs out of high school, working in call centers and stuff. And then when I decided that I wanted to get into radio, I did a little radio school course. I got a job. I got made redundant three times in three years because it was during the GFC. That's when I went in 2008, went out to get my first jobs in radio, just kept getting made redundant again and again and again.

Of course, no like payouts or anything because I was this junior person who'd been there like 11 months before the company fell over because advertising revenue dried up. But it sort of put this thing into my head, which I hadn't realized until recently. I have never fucking trusted a job will be there and i think there's a lot of people our age who we got quite like creative and sort of entrepreneurial because the job market completely failed us when we first got

in to starting our careers yeah so we got so burned so early which sucks because not everyone you know is that way inclined and not everyone wants to work like that but there's there is a sector of like you know our generation and my friends and stuff who i can see they got so fucked over in that period when we left high school and we're trying to start our professional lives that we're like all right this doesn't fucking work i'm gonna have to do this myself entirely yeah and as that was happening to everyone they were also bailing out millionaires and billionaires so like yeah that's just like the irony they can't look after themselves apparently the richest people it's like

oh no they can't look after themselves they need welfare yeah right they always want to make it seem like we're childish and like that but like this is something we've we talked about earlier in the week. This idea of like it's really easy when you're like talking about a generation or like big swaths of people. It's easy to just like make these broad, you know, determinations that they're they're actually more resentful this generation there because they're not adult enough. It's like, no no people are smart they're reacting to the situation that you've put them in and this is like the so the idea of social mobility has gone away in the united states like it's let like the thing that the united states like prided itself on uh has never been very true in the first place and is far less true in the U.S. than like in most other countries. And yet we have a mainstream media that

repeatedly tells you like, yeah, social mobility, you just work your way up. Bootstrap it. But you're not going to win if you're like engaged in like resentee-ism. Like that's just not a winning formula. You know what I mean? It's so disingenuous. You can let a lot of shit slide if you feel like you're genuinely working towards a promotion or you're going to get the gold watch at some point. But as soon as that stuff gets taken away,

then you're just faced with the brutal reality of all the bullshit that comes with work. Yeah, right. Yeah, people are going to be pissed off about that. They're going to react for sure. Yeah, exactly. you're just faced with the brutal reality of all the bullshit that comes with work yeah right yeah people are going to be pissed off about that they're going to react for sure yeah exactly and like the quiet quitting it's like no these are people who are just protecting them their their emotional state from not going from losing their fucking minds having to toil in this fucked up cycle and it's not like what's this quiet when, no, man, I have to like half check out or else I'll fucking die. Like, that's just how that's the only way I'm going to make it through this shit. But yeah, it's again, it's the it's the children that are wrong because it's the exact same

as I was. It's funny because I also have this conversation a lot, too, with like older people that I talk to who are like who are semi interested and like and they're like my grandson you know he's like 21 and he's like i'm worried like he's never gonna leave his mother's home and you know just like only work at this like like you know like a subway kind of place and and i'm like well do you think that there are other options available to him and they're like well i mean when i was their age like i had an apartment and i'm like and what did did you do for work? They're like, I worked at a restaurant. Oh, okay.

So you worked in one job? Yeah. Okay. So you worked one job at a restaurant and you had an apartment in Washington, D.C., like in D.C. proper? Yeah. Right. Okay. Well, you can't, that, that, just so you know, that financial reality does not fucking exist anymore.

That's fucking fantasy now. does not fucking exist anymore that's fucking fantasy now and it's so like there's no like these like you know the real entrenched media class and these like older people have not have like a had a reckoning with that reality they're still they're still like this idea that that that those opportunities still exist so they're left scratching their head like why are they all pissed off like i did it but now you're right about them. I was, you're right. I think, yeah, there needs to be like more graphs. We need to get more. We graphs need to make a comeback.

They need to be big, sexy graphs everywhere showing like the salaries versus rents in 1970 and then 1980. And then today, so that our parents generation can literally see how crazy it is. And the generation under us as well. Right? Like, you know, I'm, I'm, I pulled my back going to the gym this week that's how old i am just to give you a little little idea

of where i'm coming from but the it's it is it's the like 20 25 year olds who are coming up now that i'm so fucking worried about these guys got like three years of their high school socialization taken away from them and so they're all a little bit weird inside kids anyway the economy's completely cooked and the trouble is they can see it yeah it's like they go in and they're like this whole fucking thing's on fire right it's no wonder like anxieties through the roof at least we had like blinders on in the slaughterhouse you know what i mean like we were going through and cause i'm like yeah yeah it's cool and when i get outside i'm gonna graduate bovine university and then you fucking go and then

you get a pneumatic air cannon through your temple and you're fucking slumped over and they eat your fucking body whereas like these kids now they're like yo bro i'm hearing screams coming out of that fucking place they're looking at us yeah they're like they're fucking killing y'all in there i'm like are they my cousin does not look chill my cousin looks like he is having a bad fucking time of this yeah and it's and it's then that's why i think it's really fucked up that like there's still this continued analysis of trying to diagnose what's happening with like younger people without not looking at the fucking environment yeah and what role that has to play with and just be like, these kids are just so difficult.

I'll write your column for you, Forbes. They're fucking broke, dude. Yeah. They don't have any money and houses are too expensive now. Yeah. There's my column. There it is.

Five words. Sadsantee worker-isms. Sadsantee. Sadsantee.-isms. Sadsantee. Sadsantee. So we're going to add some sadness in there. I feel like that's runaway child because we're a family here at Morgan Stanley. Jamie Dimon did just come out and say the economy is booming. So I don't know what your cousin is talking about.

Jamie Dimon of JPMorgan Chase Bank? Yeah, exactly. He's got it figured out. your cousin is talking about but it is jamie diamond of jp morgan chase bank yeah exactly he's he's that's just yeah and that's why i like i hope too for like younger people that listen to the show and stuff like it sucks because it feels like you're in this world where no one fucking understands but like you know i get it some of us fucking get it unfortunately i'm sure a lot of people are getting lectured in these fucked up ways about like you should be doing more without this actual consideration for the like the fucking terrarium that you're trying to exist in and how fucking violent and chaotic it is because it's so fucking hard and yeah to your point tim like i it like i i feel so fucking fortunate that i like was able to have a little bit of flexibility, pivoting careers.

Like I left politics and I wanted to do comedy and I was able to do that, but I had like a parent that would like, let me live at home and try and get on my feet and shit. And it, but it's so fucking difficult now. And yeah, that's why, like, you know, all of this goes back to like, what to what do we expect from our leaders? I do have faith that this is unsustainable, though. What's sort of the current just mood and sort of, I don't know, economic common sense that seems to be prevailing. The kids are smart, man. The people coming up. Our generation knows everything's pretty fucking nonsensical and

unsustainable but i don't think we sort of had the courage or the the true like being in the house while it's on fire moment to to sort of spur us into action but i think the generation that's just coming up now they work so yeah yeah because we got radicalized in our mid-20s you know what i mean our late or early to mid-20s. You know what I mean? Our early to mid-20s. These kids are on TikTok now super early and they're like getting exposure to Marx. You know, Marxist economic theory when they're 12. There are some good components of TikTok.

Although it's getting banned, right? Is that happening? Yeah. And that's how we're going to deal with the rising socialism with these younger generations. Get rid of TikTok. They learn about fucking angles, man. Get the shit off the fucking app. It's all this TikTok crap.

It's not the fucking world people live in. It's not that TikTok makes people pro-Palestinian. It's that people have the wherewithal to look at something and say, I don't like that. I don't like this situation. I don't like the financial reality of this country. But again, it's much, it's more convenient to blame it on resenteeism or fucking TikTok rather than looking at the fucking, but again, they benefit from the status quo. So why fucking bother to really examine it?

Do you think things are going to change? Yeah. I think things are going to change yeah i think things are going to change i think like with anything you know like with with increased knowledge comes increased possibility so i it whether it might not happen like in a flash in a very dramatic way but i feel like like you know you can just see with the the rise in the labor movement in the united states people at the very least are beginning to be like, I deserve more and I don't deserve to be existentially freaked out every time I get a paycheck because I have to worry about, can I cover everything with it? But again, there are many forces at work trying to, you know, shift attention and be like, it's this or it's

that. It's not because of people, you know, stealing your money. But I do think again, like with everything, like I'm always heartened to see how engaged, like, like younger and younger people are in so much more up on shit. I always say that. I'm like, dude,

I fucking, my head was fucking in the clouds when I was 21. And I'm just, I see some of like the most bad-ass young people doing shit that like, I couldn't even dream of doing like even in like my 30s so i feel like that's that's it's building towards something what that turns into we'll yet to see we shall take this just quickly i've i've i i seriously believe this i think that as soon as we can get magic mushrooms legalized quite broadly yeah the West, I really think shit's going to pop off.

I think it's going to be a fantastic catalyst for people kind of like waking up a little bit from the nightmare and being like, oh, hold up. We should be helping each other and hanging out and maybe restoring the environment and nature and looking after the planet that sustains us. I genuinely think if we can make a push

to get mushrooms legalized i think it's going to speed up the rate of improvement it's definitely happening on the west coast like every day like they're that the movement for psychedelics like grows larger and larger and larger but then again like yeah and then we'll probably find it's like pfizer's like yeah take psilocybe box from pfizer fine if pfizer wants to give out psilocybe box from Pfizer. Fine. If Pfizer wants to give out psilocybe box, that's probably good. It's the great thing about weed. It's why weed works, right? Because you can grow weed.

So, like, they will always show the medical weed. You can grow your own psilocybe box. Yeah. But mushrooms, it's very hard for them. God, I don't want to give Pfizer any ideas. But please don't try and wipe out magic mushrooms that you don't own. The spore market. Right.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. They'll do like the thing that, what's that, or not pharmaceutical, that chemical company did where they like the- Yeah, Roundup. They'll do the Roundup of psilocybin. Oh, God. They'll do the Monsanto Roundup.

Yeah. You're going to see class action lawsuit commercials like in 20 years, like, did you take psilocybe box in the 2030s? If you did, you may be entitled to compensation. Right. Well, Tim, what a pleasure having you on the show. Thank you for joining us so early your time. Where can people find you follow you? All that good stuff. Man, I'm on social media. I'm on Instagram and Twitter. I'm chilling a little bit from internet stuff at the moment. I've got a one-month-old baby. I've got a two-and-a-half-year-old baby.

I invite you to do the same, everybody. Maybe chill out for a little bit. Come join me in just getting offline a little bit. But I'll be back, baby. I'll be back, back when I'm doing stand-up and stuff, maybe in six months or 12 months from now. But right now, I'm having a nice time just kind of helping my friends do their comedy stuff. So, hey, do you know what I'll say? Don't find me. You don't need to. Just go about your day. Have a lovely time and I'll see you in a year when I've got something to sell, like a

YouTube special or what have you. We'll have you back before then. Yeah. I would love that. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying there is there's this youtube channel that um the algorithm gave to me called synthet s-y-n-t-h-e-t and they're just these like 45 second videos of a guy who uses fl studios which used to be called fruity loops back when i was a teen yeah which is like a music making uh but software and he's giving tutorials on like how to just how to do all these little audio techniques i don't make music i'm not an audio producer we're not like a music producer at all but he makes them as music and he's just got these fire little 45 second like bangers that he makes while he tells

you about how to add reverb to the kick drum but he's created a little song as he's telling you and they're all so cool and it's just a that's the internet at its best for me someone who's passionate about what they do they're making their art and it's it's just cool it's cool and weird and niche and beautiful so i invite you to check out that guy's channel have you seen the competitions they have where people are speed running beat making on fl studio like you just see them click click click click click click click click they're just like putting all the hi-hats in on the sequencer step sequencer like manually clicking in and then they hit play and it's like a full-on trap beat and you're like you don't even fucking hear one sound it's a wild

there's like battles of this shit that people do online i saw and i'm sure you'll like that since you're familiar with yeah the dawes as it were humans trying to be ai before the ai takes all the music right seriously like please look i can come up with a nondescript amazing uh miles where can people find use their work media you've been enjoying Amazing. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work media you've been enjoying? Oh, man.

Let's see. Find me at Miles of Gray, wherever they got the at symbols. You can also find me and Jack on our basketball podcast. Miles and Jack on that. Boosties. You can also find me on 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra, where I will continue to spill shit all over my fucking desk. And also, let's see a tweet. I like at good Reddit quote tweeted.

I don't know this fucking stupid trend on Twitter where people are like, look between W and R on your keyboard. I fucking can't handle it. It's like it's wild how quickly like those like sort of joke forms pop up and we'll engage with it for like a few days and then it's like it's naturally done i've never seen one happen and then like with the day it happened it was like fucking we're done we can't do this shit anymore so good reddit quote tweeted this one from at guinness world records it said applicant i want to break the world record for longest time without sleep us look between t and u and you're like what and it's why and then the quote we just said twitter is so fucking cooked man it's fucking cooked y'all yeah i don't with that in mind i've been frantically looking for a tweet i've been enjoying because i don't have one so go relax and enjoy

your family or talk talk to somebody who you haven't talked to in a while. That's my tweet I've been enjoying. I caught up with an old high school friend this weekend. That's my work of media. Oh, shit. That's your work of media? How long had it been since you caught up with the high school homie? Like six months.

But before that, it had been like years. High school, basically. So we've been just trying to keep in touch. We're doing a little reading thing where we like check out a book and read it and then like talk about the book. All right. Hi, Mindy family. I think they're called book clubs. I don't want to be the guy, Jack, but yeah, there's a word for that.

This is a thing. This is a thing that people have been doing. You don't say. Yeah. Anyways, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com,

where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. Where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles yep what's the song you think people might be getting in the weekend i need to get my my body moving the talk of psilocybin makes me yearn for the sound of drum and bass music and i gotta go out on another nia archives track this This one's called Unfinished Business. And Nia Archives is just a fantastic producer, DJ, artist. And, you know, look, I'm telling you, the drum and bass wave is here.

Just hop on, embrace it, ride it, because it's a good time. And I think it's probably some of the most emotive forms of electronic music that's out there. And I know I sound like some old head EDM person, but I truly believe that. Anyway, unfinished business, Nia Archives. Check this one out.

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