The Daily Zeitgeist - Tex Mess, Means-Test Dummy Biden 2.18.21

Episode Date: February 18, 2021

In episode 814, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Dani Fernandez to discuss student loan forgiveness, the republican civil war, the mayor of Colorado, Texas going on a rant, ground reporting from San Antonio Zeitgang, Fox News' beef with wind power, Rush Limbaugh, the Cruella trailer, and more!FOOTNOTES: Study: Student Loans Weigh the Heaviest on Black and Hispanic Students If There Was a Republican Civil War, It Appears to Be Over Colorado City mayor resigns, responds to his controversial Facebook post Texas mayor says he had already resigned after writing ‘only the strong will survive’ amid cold, power outages @DailyZeitgeist @milesofgray @jack_obrien long time listener first time caller, I live in San Antonio and I wanted to tell y'all about what's happening here... Energy companies started "rolling blackouts" early Monday, saying it would be 15 min off, 45 on for everyone. Texas Blackouts Hit Minority Neighborhoods Especially Hard What went wrong with the Texas power grid? Perry says Texans willing to suffer blackouts to keep feds out of power market How Fox News is exploiting Texas' power outages to fearmonger about clean energy No, Frozen Wind Turbines Did Not Cause the Texas Blackouts Viral Image Claiming to Show a Helicopter De-Icing Texas Wind Turbines Is From Winter 2014 in Sweden Fox News' Tucker Carlson Spouts Hot Air About Wind Power, Gets Blown Away On Twitter Myths & Facts About Wind Power Rush Limbaugh Dies at 70; Turned Talk Radio Into a Right-Wing Attack Machine WATCH: Disney's Cruella | Official Trailer WATCH: Masego - Navajo (EKANY Remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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to season 172 episode 3 of the daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it is thursday february 18th 2021 my name is jack o'brien aka i'm gonna take you by surprise and show you my white thighs baja blast i'm gonna drink you right away can't wait another day baja blast i'm gonna open up your can and make you understand Baja Blast. I love do. That is courtesy of Abstrusell, official dickhead, on Twitter. Very sexual ode to Baja Blast. And I am thrilled to be joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!

Sorry I got it needed. To be joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Sorry, I didn't realize I need an instrumental for this one. You know, because fuck this racist. He can't even live. You know what I mean? Oh, who are we talking about? Oh, baby, fuck Rush Limbaugh. Yeah, baby, fuck Rush Limbaugh. Oh, baby, fuck Rush Limbaugh.

Yeah, baby, fuck Rush Limbaugh. Oh, baby, fuck Rush Limbaugh. Yeah, baby, fuck Rush Limbaugh. Shitty, shitty news for your boy, Miles O'Gray. About to say, psych, what a wonderful day. Okay, that resting garbage to racist Limbaugh. Wow. I read things like a pioneer. Yeah. Okay, pioneer, pioneer. Talk radio, pioneer a pioneer. Yeah. Okay.

Pioneer. Talk radio. Pioneer. The racist vitriol. Anyway, so shout out to Christy Yamaguchi, man. Coming in one more time with that wonderful A.J. Thank you. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Danny Fernandez. I'm here!

She's here. There you are. I always sing my AKAs. Mine was going to be Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan, Dan. The Dan DeLorean.

The Dan DeLorean. I love when everyone called him the dad delorean those are his roles now because he's in the last of us thing now he's like the yeah the begrudgingly you know good dad last of us felt i was like i can't believe i didn't think of that because like when i saw it i was like yes yes exactly i had what are we talking about oh pedro pascal is going to be in the movie or this is a series or oh is it a series oh maybe it's a series or whatever it is there's you're saying you can't believe you didn't think of what that pedro pascal in in that role got it joel yeah of course um of course i mean jack it was right in front of you right it was

right in front of us the whole damn time i feel like i'm in usual suspects right now just putting all the pieces together yeah he's kind of popping up everywhere and will uh feels like somebody i will never get tired of seeing no because i mean for you i like when i watch things like old stuff from the early aughts and 90s i'm like pedro pascal has been he's been out here yeah like you know i'm like oh shit he was in buffy or these other things you realize he was working but then i'm like in my mind he really didn't get pop until he was over in martel and i'm not sure if like there were performances before that that had people being like no ped Pascal is a thing but that I'm I'm wondering if everyone's on the same page where that was truly my introduction to him was through Game of Thrones I don't know

oh I think Narcos might have been Narcos I feel like his people's yeah but I mean I definitely it might have been like right around the same time I definitely should have recognized him from Game of Thrones but he was kind of so different and like there was a he did a weird thing in narcos where like at first you like you didn't know what to make of his character and him as a performer at first for me i was like huh is this guy a really good actor or like kind of weird and not acting and then he just like ends up being incredible in the role. But yeah, he's dope. All right, Danny, we're going to get to know you

a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about student debt forgiveness. We're going to talk about the Republican Civil War. Just a quick check-in with that. We're going to talk about uh the republican civil war just a quick check-in with that uh we're going to talk about texas uh the the mayor who told everybody what uh you know i mean no lies detected yeah yeah told everybody the the truth about the american ethos

we're going to talk about uh member of zeitgang reached out to us from san antonio just to tell us what it looks like on the ground there uh we also got some new york times reporting some houston cron reporting uh so lesser sources also confirmed the reporting from zeitgang uh we'll talk about fox news's decade-long war against wind power uh that is the story that first came out they managed to get it bubbling up uh at first it was like well all the wind turbines are frozen uh so what are we gonna do uh and and then it slowly comes out that's not actually what's happening uh we'll talk about rush Limbaugh, pioneer. I just want to read some of his words to kind of memorialize him.

We'll talk about that Cruella trailer. We'll talk about Parler being back, all of that, plenty more. But first, Dani, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? My search was the truth about Dolly Parton's 11 siblings. Yeah. I'm obsessed with Dolly Parton. I love her. Wait, what were you going to say?

My search terms come across like I've suffered some sort of head trauma. I'm like, Dolly Parton, 11 siblings has? Question i'm like dolly parton 11 siblings has question mark but yours is your search is like straight up like a a clickbait headline like dateline mbc the way you read it i thought you just straight up copied the text of a clickbait like you know oh okay i thought you were just that's just how you search shit i'm like this is the truth about dolly part i forgot but what happened what is is this no it's just she has i'm listening to her audiobook which is amazing she has one on audible which uh it goes through all of her songs she talks about and it's her talking she talks

about the history behind all of her songs and And if you just love Dolly and like, she just sounds like someone's sweet aunt that's like offering you sweet tea and giving you a hug. She's amazing. Aside from all the things she did during this pandemic and the black lives matter protest, she just an amazing woman. But yeah.

So, so she was talking about her, her pa and her siblings and she like kept rattling names off. I'm like, well, how many siblings does this woman have? She's 11. What? And it's, it's, it's wild. And she's just done so much philanthropy with all of her money.

And also her husband, people don't know this. She's been married once to the same man since like the sixties, but you never see him. Yeah. She has, she's figured that out she's figured out like that's the secret to so he's just a millionaire with her living it up in their mansion whenever she comes home he's there that's her her stay-at-home husband damn the photos of him are great there's barely any i know it's like three from the 80s two from the 70s and then like the last one must have been from like 2004 uh he just stays off you know but it's really funny in the book you guys she's like everyone thinks i had an affair with such and such or everyone thinks i slept with so and so and i'm not anything, but like you guys can think.

So I'm like, girl, I think it's funny when people don't confirm, like it would be like, of course I didn't, but she didn't say that. So I'm like, I wonder if he's chill, like as long as he gets to be a multimillionaire with her, if he's like, sure,

have an affair with Burt Reynolds or whatever. People think that she had an affair with like multiple different men that she's worked with, but I mean, maybe she has. She's actually, these are Carl's birthday wishes for me. As long as he gets to,

you know, get some pictures. Yeah. Smell the sheets after. Wow. Yeah. The pictures of him are dope, especially like from the seventies and eighties.

And the later ones too because you're like this motherfucker must be cool as shit because he looks like a fan taking a photo and she's loving it i'm like in a way it makes you more curious but that's that's the real power like people who don't share shit they're they they have it figured out because that's truly like the last thing you can keep to yourself is your privacy yeah without like going full throttle into like the look at me take a photo of me over here this is my that shit yeah like it it burns out and i think it only just magnifies her you know the mystique around it all yeah yeah dolly dolly parton's got secrets and that's what makes her cool

secret husband secret tattoos although not as many as people think secret 11 sibling wow do you think people go out there lie that they're one of dolly parton's like nieces or nephews in the same way like people say they're related to bob marley because that's the one you always hear oh you know that's that's bob marley That's like the third cousin of Kaimani Marley because there's so many Marley kids. I wonder if that's the same thing out in Appalachia. I hear that with Disney because a lot of people have that last name or like more than you would think, I guess. And so does that mean that they're all related to Walt Disney? Because that's a pretty unique last name.

Is everyone that has a last name Disney related to Walt Disney? I don't know. Chime in. Let us know. Chime in. Let us know. Zay Kang with a last name Disney. Also let us know in the Club 33. What is something you think is underrated? Underrated?

We're actually going to talk about it, but for me, it's the South. I think, especially because I live now in LA la i think a lot of like quote unquote coastal elites or whatever which people always lob at me and i'm like i literally grew up in frisco texas like i don't know why you're using this term also i think texas is the south i want to go on record but by saying that i don't know i don't understand how it's not considered the south when it one of its cities is like the most Southern place in America.

Quite literally. Quite literally the South. But it's not considered the South for a lot of people. So I find that fascinating. I guess it's its own little. We've always thought of ourselves as like this little, I don't know, wild West, like not West, I guess, but wild South country. Anyways, I think that it's i think a lot of people think of the south as being racist and what they don't realize is that it's very very very diverse

especially texas if you look at the latino and black population there um and so i think it's a little insane and i'm sure we'll tackle some of that when we talk about Texas, but the South is heavily diverse. So I think just chalking up all of those states to white racist people is not cool. Right. So, yeah. But also underrates how extremely racist northern states are. Yes. Yeah, because everyone's, oh, it's like the same way, you know, the U.S. like thumbs their noses at like burgeoning socialist countries that they overthrow.

And they're like, you see what happens over there? Like you need that, you sort of need that basis of comparison to put yourself at another place. Like it's so sloppy over there. Ignore the part that we're engineering the downfall of it. But that's why you don't want that. And we always, we always need someone relative to, It's just human nature, you know, baby? Do you think it's because a lot of people don't think of it as like, I feel like a lot of people's definition of the South is so tied to the Civil War.

But then most people don't realize, you know, Texas seceded from the Union too. And that's like a, I don't know. I feel like that's always the idea that i always evoke when i think of the south which is why like for whatever reason i compartmentalize or think texas is different mostly because texans i know tell me it's different yeah i mean it but also like a lot of that land was mexico and like uh a lot like a lot of the black population that was forced to be there is still that has like, you know, bought a home, like have several generations there. And so like to just chalk it all up to white people is just not true, is frankly not true. And so I'm just really tired of like when anything happens to the South that, you know, liberal or, you know, people in east and west coast are like well you deserve

that because you guys are red states or whatever and i think that that's gross but i also think that that's not true right um yeah i saw people the voters i saw people talking about that on uh twitter like responding to a comment that i hadn't seen the original comment but basically being like i don't think people should actually die because they live in a Southern red state. Was that a sentiment that was going around? I guess it was. I had tweeted yesterday about some of my,

because a lot of my high school classmates are still in Texas. And so I was tweeting some of what they're going through right now. And I said, I was just saying that it is diverse as fuck. And I think people were dunking on Ted Cruz. I think because Ted Cruz made fun of Californians when we were going through a crisis. And so I think people were dunking on using his own words.

However, it spun out into it was literally people telling texans like go f yourself and um and it was from liberal people so it was really wild that us you know our our side that considers itself progressive you know does that and yeah yeah i'm sure you can get into that more with texas i have some stuff to say about the tex Texas stuff because I do have friends that are like also on the ground there and some of their experiences that they're dealing with so yeah I think the in group out group

sort of dynamic of you know looking down on southern people looking down on you know people who are into culture like NASCAR and shit like that is probably one of the larger biases that uh doesn't get addressed as much in in mainstream culture and i think also like probably on shows like this though like there's probably that part of the country and that part of culture gets painted with a

single brush and yeah it's probably more diverse too in terms of how people think um what is something you think is overrated okay this is a double negative but not wearing makeup even though i'm not wearing makeup right now and y'all can see that i think it's like all there was like this huge push which i get it to like be natural and like all these like you know no filter no makeup like whatever like i'm not and i'm like but makeup makes me feel good and like it's there my friend a lot of my friends are makeup artists and so i think it's so weird when guys are like guy like you know that thing that meme that'll go around and it'll be like make sure you take her in the pool on the first day or like oh my god you know what i'm talking about have you seen those yeah so you could see him in a bathing suit yeah

no i know it's yeah just that talk shoe like because you gotta know dude because yeah there's so many memes that it's like what they look like in the club yes and then what they look like it's like okay uh-huh look like I don't also like and I adore like the people some of the celebrities that'll do like the no makeup challenge or whatever I'm like you're literally but you also have like thousands of dollars worth of skin care like you know what I mean and so I don't know i love makeup and i love like my friends that are makeup artists it makes me feel really good and it's really therapeutic it's like you know like 30 minutes you can just do nothing and kind of like paint

it's honestly like painting like and it's really you know some people do it in such i follow a lot of cosplayers that do it in such an artistic way. But anyways, I was going to say, I get it. As long as you're not being toxic to people where you're trying to – that's what I feel people try to do with me. And I don't even wear a lot. But people will try to shame you about – you don't need makeup or whatever. I'm just tired of people telling – Don't wear makeup or you don't realize you don't need makeup.

Yeah. And I'm like, but I – just tell me it looks good. Or whatever. I don't realize you don't need makeup. Yeah. And I'm like, but I did like, that's just tell me it looks good, you know, or whatever. I don't know. So that's my thing that I think is over is like everyone's saying like, be natural, whatever. And it's like, okay, cool.

If you want to be, but some of us like, and some people like, that's literally my friend's professions. That's their careers. They get hired to do that. And so, and they love it. So anyways.

It's anti-makeup artist is what it is yeah anti-mua i'm down for me i love makeup so sorry yeah no no i think that's every time yeah jack and i just can't dial in our makeup application as much as we'd like we're back we're trying to use a beauty blender it's not well i'm literally not wearing any right now because y'all have seen me so much and i don't care but if i did put it on for you and you were like wow you that looks beautiful that would be nice it doesn't have to be oh danny you don't you don't need it right right rather than like what are you doing that makeup on you're cute and don't need it it's like what kind of thing is that to say to anyone right now people are wild

yeah well people people must let you know they have an opinion too yes okay that's fine but i don't need it oh it feels like it's of a piece with the uh you're beautiful because you don't know how beautiful you are thing that's like in pop music it's like fuck off man like what are you talking so hot and you don't even know it oh but that that is a whole secret for me to exploit that that is a that is a meme i like that you have low self-esteem what the fuck about about like taking her in the pool or whatever like me and i'm like you just sound so toxic and gross like maybe that's why you're single and like if a girl got all dolled up for me i would feel very special yeah like all that energy and i'm like i'm sorry i'm wearing a sweatsuit i'm sorry for that but yeah those are the same people that venn diagram is a circle where it's people who post that meme

and the same dudes who say females yes it's true it's also not like a subtle like life hack it's people who post that meme and the same dudes who say females yes it's true it's also not like a subtle like life hack it's not like here's how you can it's hey girl you want to uh go swimming uh it's fucking february what are you talking about they're deceptors bro you gotta verify like okay look just because like your parents' marriage ended because of a lack of communication doesn't mean that's how all people work. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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I promise your taste buds will be happy you did. And we're back. And let's talk about student debt forgiveness. One of the other Joe Biden promises. That'd be cool, huh? Yeah. Anyways, moving on. A lot of people have been talking about it. That'd be cool, huh? Yeah. Anyways, moving on. A lot of people have been talking about it. That'd be cool, huh?

All right, moving on. Exactly. Pretty much what Joe Biden did. A lot of people, progressives have been saying $50,000 in student debt relief would go a hell of a long way for people, especially right now when incomes are limited. It allows for tangible upward mobility when you relieve these these burdens up from people um and you know joe biden's like yeah we can talk about that but then at a town hall someone made the mistake of asking uncle joe for some money and you know how that goes so let's play this this is from a town hall uh where dude just taking that oh that thing that elizabeth warren

and chuck schumer were talking about yeah yeah uh we're gonna dead that loans are crushing my family friends and fellow americans me too the american dream is to succeed but how he said they're not oh yeah we're gonna have to pause that and then he said you think i'm kidding i'm okay who they're crushing joe biden student debts the homies from your gaming discord like who are you talking about okay who are you talking about and he really also his body language you think i'm kidding his arms are crossed across when he gets mad yeah yeah when he knows he's wrong and his response is to get cranky and mean and angry. Yeah, exactly. Because he knows he's going to have to look fucking...

Well, I mean, he's just a curmudgeon anyway. Can I guess that a come on man is coming or something along those lines? I mean, we'll take prop bets now if you want to lay it down. All right. We'll take that into account. Our second dream is to succeed. But how can we fulfill that dream when debt is many people's only option for a degree? We need student loan forgiveness beyond the potential $10,000 your administration has proposed.

We need at least a $50,000 minimum. What will you do to make that happen? I will not make that happen. It depends on whether or not you go to a private university or a public university. Oh, boy. Damn. You asked. He said.

He's already Jekyll and Hyde himself. Hey, mom, let me get some money so I could put in on a limousine for prom. I will not make that happen. Oh, shit. Okay, I'll sell drugs. But like, wow. I mean, I know none of us trust politicians, but it's like, so he could have kept it up like a little bit longer. Well, listen.

Yes. He does try to pivot. Okay. He tries to explain why he's being cruel. And maybe just for a second, listen to where this cruelty is necessary. We can get on the same page. This is his logic. A private university or public university.

see if we can get on the same page. This is his logic. A private university or public university. It depends on the idea that I say to a community, I'm going to forgive the debt, the billions of dollars of debt for people who have gone to Harvard and Yale and Penn and schools, my children. I went to a great school. I went to a state school. But is that going to be forgiven rather than use that money to provide for early education for young children? Okay, he's lost the plot. So he's pitting Ivy League people against just everyday people who are working to try and get an education to try and enter the workplace because that's the way the game is set up here that's the most important thing is making sure that the wrong people don't get the benefit as opposed to just making sure everybody gets the fucking benefit well here's the thing if we start helping people people who don't need help get helped and that's fucked up also that's not true like the aside from the fact that there's

like a you know a low amount of black and brown students at these places, but they have gotten a shot to get into an Ivy League, which are twice as expensive, if not more. I don't think that they should be saddled with debt the rest of their lives just because they went to an Ivy League school. But even when you start breaking it down, down right guess who's disproportionately impacted by student loan debt black and brown students that's who black students borrow students no no 77 almost 80 percent of black students borrow federal student loans you know what i mean and it's it's much higher than the national average the other things too is like having this student loan debt above you directly relates to having a lower income it it it it's a burden it it limits you because you're so spread thin trying to fucking

pay off these loans for an education that who is it is it even like most people like is it even worth it anymore um and yeah so joe you gotta fucking take a second joe because you're you you keep throwing it in people's faces that you forgot who fucking voted for you and what the fuck you said to even get people to even believe in this shit i mean that's why i think many people who had seen his record were like well let's not get too excited here about joe biden um but this is what's happening but i think it's just a smack in the face giving given what's happening in the country to then just be like this thing is also could really help black and brown americans out for like like i said tangible upward mobility but i'd rather get bare like bogged down on like well maybe this kid who went to pen is

gonna get some money off and then he'll use it on a fucking white claw beer pong table i don't know what the fuck it's like right it's it's it reminds me of like the uh there was a point during the primary like kamala harris was talking about like there it's just like well we will be forgiving student debt if this and then you fulfill that and you haven't made a payment and it's like 20 different levels that you had to like like boxes that you needed to check off and it's so ineffective as politics and as actual policy that affects people's lives to just have 20 different things and like hoops that you have to run through like we just need simple policies that but then that people then that's like way too much money being spent that's what so we just

can't get over that and we avoid like even logically gaming it out. Like, well, what happens? Right. Because if your point, Joe Biden, is that, well, what about like disadvantaged kids and getting into early childhood development? Who do you think? Do you think the parents of these disadvantaged kids might have student debt, too? Right. Yeah. So I also want to say, aside from black and brown students having to more likely having to borrow when they graduate, they also make less than their white counterparts doing the same job for the same amount of time.

So it takes them twice as long to even pay it off. Right. So it's even more difficult once they do graduate because they're not paid the same for the same amount of work. Right. I mean, you know, 50% of black students and 36% of like Latinx students default on their student loans. You know what I mean? Like these, that's who needs help. Like people, all people, anyone with this student, they fucking fuck it.

I don't give a fuck. I don't care if I had to pay for my college or whatever but fuck i'd rather look at a world that's treating people humanely than be like well i had to go through that shit and if they went to a state school we should feel sorry for them miles but not otherwise i don't know what is happening why does that what are you talking about about and then his then he moves on to be like you know the the thing that i've been saying is community college should be free it's like joe that's not she said her friends and family are being crushed by student debt and you're saying uh well okay how about this uh hop in a time machine and go to a future where the

community colleges are free and then you can just have your associates degree and like i don't know and i get that you can you get your associates and then go to a four-year and then get your bachelor's and things like that but like what these aren't real solutions they're they're really not they're just these really disingenuous like pivots and lame talking points that completely ignore like the real thing that we're asking for is like how are you going to help people like right now i'm not oh okay all right and let me take a step back and explain to you uh that i went to uh i used to ride the train so uh come on man don't don't don't bring that bullshit in here um get that weak shit out of here. Anyway, help me open this PDF. I also want to say too, like I had a ton of,

I just paid off 10,000 in medical debt. Medical debt. So some of us also have medical debt on top of student loan. Like whenever I see people on Twitter, like, well, I saved up and I paid off my student loan debt. And I'm like, okay, but did you also have thousands of medical debt too? Because like some of us also have other debt. Yeah, they're like, nope, never had to go to a doctor in 15 years.

Right, but like, you know what I mean? It's like, it's such a privileged thing. And I'm like, so here's the thing. Yes, I paid off my 10,000. If another person had a $10,000 bill, I wouldn't wish that on them just because I paid mine off. I paid mine off because i sold a show and i was like okay i'm gonna take some a chunk of this money but you should that's that's never happens that that's like such a one percent like that doesn't happen to people that they just

get it you're out here you're out here selling a show to try and tackle your medical debt that's not like that goes to my bugatti fund. And then the gross thing was I had debt collectors calling me the last like two years about my medical debt. And it was like, sir, I didn't go to Vegas for the weekend. I was hospitalized. And it was like, I had autoimmune issues and I had heart issues. And I was like, an ambulance costs however much it costs. And it's just like insane. And I think they felt bad. To be honest, I don't think anyone actually wants to take a debt collector job. They are also people that are struggling, but it was just like, hi, you're calling me and acting like I'm a piece of shit.

I didn't pay for Super Bowl tickets. I was in the hospital. What's going on, Ms. Fernandez? I'm sorry. I just have to to like the suit. I didn't pay for like Superbowl tickets. Like I was in the hospital. What's going on? Miss Fernandez. Sorry. I just have to stick to the script. Yeah. Listen to me.

You piece of shit. No, you better pay. It's like, I think at the end of the day, we just have to keep reminding ourselves that there are certain things that just need to be rights. Right.

And not things you have, you have to afford to get into the club of, can you get into the health club? Can you get into the health club can you get into the education club i mean we talk about uh democrats wanting to like keep the status quo because that they are kind of the party of the status quo uh at this point where they're like trying to you know they are the party that is there to protect capitalism, not to solve people's problems. And I think with college, like we we've talked before about how college is basically a social factory for like giving people the proper socialization to like enter the sort of

upper, like middle class basically, and like have the proper like social connections essentially like that's uh when when people look at it that's the thing that people find to be like the most important part of of college is like the social connections that you make and so it makes sense to me that the democrats would be protective of just letting anybody into college because that is like a barrier that's If you compare them at two different points in time, you're like, well,

that was forward movement, but it's like, it's so glacial and incremental that it doesn't, it's like they've found ways to basically reinforce other money making industries. So when they go, all right, fuck it,

we're pulling the plug on like making buku bucks on community college. I hope you got, I hope you set your traps for other places. Then they can allow for that to happen because that's just how it never it's never going to be like your ass out uh under a democrat plan because then they're going to consult with your industry to make sure it's so like are you comfortable with this the republican civil war is almost not even worth mentioning that was a story heading into the year in the mainstream media.

Post the second impeachment, the only thing that is getting Republicans in trouble is anybody who voted to convict. That's like they're getting censured by their home state parties. And it's over. We knew that it was going to go back to the president and uh but it's still trump's party he's in a better and better position uh and you know i

feel like he didn't really make sense as a president because he can't actually do like he's not competent enough to do the things he promises but i feel like he's going to be like as the dissident leader like the critic of the person in power uh who has like this huge groundswell of support i think he's going to be very dangerous and anybody who's counting that out or thinks that like he's uh his career is over is i think sorely mistaken um so that is where that is that the polling is interesting when you look at it though too right because within it 63 of republicans think that they need a third party but then when you break that down, 40% think it needs to be more conservative. Right.

A third thinks it should be the same. And a quarter is like, I'm out of here. Like y'all are, I'm not this racist. So that's interesting that 25% are like right now there's only 25, only a fourth of the Republicans are like, well, the other three fourths are like, what's the problem? Yeah. I mean, others are like, turn it up even harder. support and vote for him or getting behind the groundswell of populist racist uh energy that their party has at their back uh they're gonna do the thing they've done before which is go go with trump if it's like part of me it's just so like it's weird part of me is like where is that like

old school dark arts bush cheney version of the party that would just like dissipate like feel like they would disappear people for fucking going against like oh my god it's like it's like like i'm like rooting for that old bad guy to come fight this bad guy i'm like are they gonna fight now because you went after liz cheney but nothing so yeah like you're saying like the dust is settled and that's where it's at um now it's going to be about who's going to put their money where and how that ultimately bears out and like polling and things like that because i mean when we say all these things that like yes the republican party the energy and there's wild toxic and going all over the place but in terms of like the

sentiment of americans at least a majority are now trending more towards like we that bad not again no more but how those are going to be reconciled i think it's going to be really interesting and we got what 18 months basically to figure that out um let's talk about this. Texas mayor, the mayor of Colorado, Texas, population 4,000. He went on social media and told people to stop complaining. People whose power was out, who were freezing to death, and who couldn't get clean water. I mean, it's almost worth just reading word for word. Yeah, look. I'll read his Ayn rant for you uh from tim

boyd quote let me hurt some feelings while i have a minute oh my god you have a minute during a yo that's fat joe saying put the fucking mic on uh and you're about to be like what's humanity so he says no one owes you or your family anything nor is it the local government's responsibility to support you during trying times it literally is it quite literally is um sink or swim it's your choice the city and county along with power providers or any other service owes you nothing i'm sick and tired of people looking for a damn handout if you don't have electricity you step up and come up with a game plan to keep your family warm and safe if you have no water you deal without and think outside of the box to survive and supply water to your family if you were sitting at home in the

cold because you have no power and are sitting there waiting for somebody to come rescue you because you're lazy. That's a direct result of your raising. Only the strong will survive and the weak will perish. But spelled Paratron. Oh my God. Oh, everything is spelled wrong horribly. Yeah, it's a nightmare. Folks, God has given us the tools to support ourselves in times like this. This is sadly a product of a socialist government where they feed people to believe that the few will work and others will become dependent for handouts.

Am I sorry that you've been dealing without electricity and water? Yes, but I'll be damned if I'm going to provide for anyone that is capable of doing it themselves. We have lost sight of those in need and those that take advantage of the system and mesh them in one group. Bottom line, quit crying and looking for a handout. Get off your ass and take care of your own family. Bottom, he says bottom line again. Bottom line, don't be part of a problem. Be a part of the solution.

The way they are so obsessed with that term handout. Yep. They are so obsessed with that term handout yep they are so obsessed this is always in my comments too whenever i talk about either student loan forgiveness or whatever it's just like so ingrained in them and i want to say we literally pay taxes so it is not a it's literally your money like quite literally our money yeah that we have to pay taxes every single. Yes. Every, I would love to not pay taxes.

And then you could be like, Danny, you never paid for anything, but no, we literally do. Yeah. And I'm sorry. I think part of the thing when you're paying like these utility taxes too, and you're paying for utility services,

part of the gag, the game, the relationship there is to be like, I'm paying for the fucking service. Where's my electricity? You have the right to ask for that. Now I understand that certain things out of their control happens, but to say that it's not the responsibility is such an absurd notion, but it's not the responsibility of your power provider to provide you with power power i think was like almost a direct quote in there yeah i sent yeah right so then people are like what the fuck did this guy say and he resigned but then he fucking came back to facebook just to clear shit up one time for your mind real quick okay this is him and he and he deleted both posts like within minutes because he was like i'm taking too many l's being taken at the moment he says quote all i have sat back and watched all

this escalating and have tried to keep my mouth shut i won't deny for one minute what i said in my post this morning believe me when i say that many of the things i said were taken out of context and some of which were said without putting much thought into it i would never want to hurt the elderly or anyone this or or anyone that is in true need of help to be left to fend for themselves. I was only making the statement that those folks that are too lazy to get up and fend for themselves but are capable should not be dealt a handout. He goes on basically saying, like, you misunderstand. It's the same point. You're just using more words to say the same thing which is if you

can't look if you can't deal with it then die motherfucker that's what i'm saying like it's weird because i kind of feel bad for him in the sense that he's merely reflect reflecting back everything that we have we see as americans yeah yeah which is he's been told by rush limbaugh from day one whether it's not said out loud or whatever this is what the experience is for american people which is work or die be useful or die if you can't afford to live then fucking die you want help motherfucker then move somewhere else oh you were brought here against your will centuries ago sorry uh that's really the tone of this and yeah like it's funny that a lot of times we're like

how can people think like this but we really need to have like a more concerted effort to be like why what is why do we have what is what's with our asshole problem here oh yeah you know what i mean the fucking that it's just turned into this like scab of like it's just hardened to the point where this guy would i basically say like i don't give a fuck if your grandma freezes to death right but that's not who he's picturing right yeah he's not picturing your grandma he's picturing like some yeah non-white people right everyday americans or whatever yeah um and but the idea that you're so like to to. What I was going to say of some of my high school friends. That are dealing with this right now.

One of my friends who's still in Frisco. Had to go and stand in line. For four hours trying to get firewood. And he has a baby. He has a wife and a baby. They have had no power. It is below freezing. As you've seen some of the pictures on Twitter.

People will have. And they're like. People are like. Don't forget to like have your pipes. Like have, people will have, and they're like, people are like, don't forget to like have your pipes leak, like have them drip or whatever. And they're like, we've been doing that for days and they like still busted.

And so their pipes burst, they have no electricity and to keep warm, like literally they had to go and stand in line to get firewood. And it was, it just was a line of cars for hours. And he said he spent four hours trying to get firewood so that his baby wouldn't freeze and he they turned him

away and so that's what people are dealing with and the idea that it's like well you you need to go out and you know slaughter a cow to feed your like it's just so insane we're also like not you know the way that our uh society and system has been set up now it's like you can't just go out and like chop down someone else's tree or just like take someone else's sheep and like take you know what i mean when you're living in like a suburban neighborhood um so those when he says that, like, those are, he's probably thinking of people like my friend who, who did go out, you know student loan debt and you're, a lot of people deal with massive amounts of depression living in this country. So I think it's actually just the, the effects of depression from being in this, this, this hell hole that is also just earth, just living on earth. So I don't actually think. But our little corner of hell.

Yeah. I actually think that you, you can't be lazy and live in this country because you would just die. You'll die. Yeah. Yeah. So everybody is fighting at all times to survive. I mean, it's so expensive to even just exist. You have to be extremely privileged to be lazy. Yes.

That's the thing. You have to have a ton of money actually to be lazy um and yeah the the students probably sees lazy people around him because he's a privileged politician and so he assumes that that's i mean he assumes that every everybody's problems are their own fault because that's what fox news has been telling him and yeah because the bottom line is you can never present a problem to a republican and they say it's a problem you're right they go oh wow that was a you're right that's a problem we need to fix that never that's it's you can you can take that shit to the bank unless it's like yeah immigrants are a problem but like if you're saying what the fuck just happened with that grid uh do

we want to talk about this deregulated independent grid that we have and all this other shit? And the fact that the markets of electricity are set up that doesn't even incentivize maintenance or the updating of the grid because we're all about like cheap power as quickly as possible. All this. No, it's not going to be that. It's going to be like, we actually need to look at the body that was in charge of the utilities. Oh, man, we need to look into snow terrorism. I think it's not going to be that it's going to be like we actually need to look at the body that was uh in charge of the utilities oh man these we need to look into snow terrorism i think it's like what it's a it's uh it's the same here we've brought up the deregulated texas energy market before because the story of enron is like so cartoonishly just like what an amazing example of broken american uh economy and just everything uh ethics but uh yeah just one kind of acute way that this uh problem illustrates

the the way american opera america operates we had a a tdz fanZ fan from San Antonio reach out and say their power's been out. The power company at first said it was going to be 15 minutes on, 45 minutes off just to conserve power and said it's been off for days and pointed out my friends in wealthy neighborhoods have not lost power. This is true in at least three separate neighborhoods across the city. I've seen the downtown skyline just blazing its lights into the sky for the entire time. And that's actually that supports what The New York Times is reporting, which is that the in any disaster, but including this one, when shit hits the fan, the poor communities and communities that are more populated with people of color are the ones that uh lose power first and get it last so the people who are probably have the least camping supplies uh like have the least access to things that can save their lives

are the ones who are treated the worst by the system by this deregulated energy industry hey that's that's where we're headed baby you know like when shit all this shit gets privatized this is the future you have to look forward to because there are no regulations on what you need to be what the bare minimum is they're gonna look at you and be like okay uh some people were saying like because trying to generate the electricity was going to become so costly. They're like, you may want to cancel your service with us. Cause your electrical bill could be wild because we're going to dump the

cost onto the consumer. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Like people are getting notices to be like, you may want to,

you may want to rethink that just as a courtesy. Yeah. That's our courtesy is you may get body slammed on your next bill if you stay with us fox news has been saying that it's because uh windmills are frozen but you know according to uh an energy fellow in the department of economics at the university of houston uh the failure is the result of the state's deregulated power system no uh um most of the uh it's actually like when you look at on uh balance the wind power for the day that uh everybody was saying the uh wind turbines were frozen the wind power on balance uh overshot the what the expectations were for that day there were

a couple examples of uh windmills freezing but for the most part uh they provided more energy than uh the energy companies were expecting and the thing that uh shit the bed was natural gas but this is part of a long-term campaign by fox and friends uh you know they they were in the past couple days saying what would america look is this what america would look like under the green new deal uh tucker carlson claimed that it was all due to texas's reckless reliance on windmills um the energy mix is 80 or 90 fossil fossil fuels in Texas. Yes. That's in this. Say that part out loud. Tucker Carlson say,

and the, and I think the point you're talking about is the coastal windmills in Texas were the ones bringing more energy into the state because they weren't as affected and were, and created a lot more than when the gas plants went down. So in the end, it actually did help the state, the wind,

the wind, the wind turbines it's like god i mean this is not going to be news to anybody but just like reading this story just for some reason just every once in a while i get just like smacked over the head and i'm just like holy shit like we are in a dystopian society where like when you think about the fact that most people in texas is like primary news source is going to be fox news uh like and like just thinking about how transparently illegal it should be for them to report the things that we just described i don't know greg abbott the governor's out here blaming other people it's like people are dying in the state because of the inaction and like the callous attitudes towards

how to solve anything of being like because again you you present a republican with a problem and it's not oh my god i'm the governor texans are dying under my watch well this is unacceptable it goes oh we actually need to talk to uh urquhart which is like the the commission on on on energy and stuff in the state it's like we need to we need to talk about i think that's the issue here it's never again he could have been we have to do something something needs to be done i i'm the governor and this is a problem and that was you know can't admit any kind of failure mistake so it just ends up perpetuating itself uh they a big uh piece of content that was being circulated by conservatives was a photograph

of a helicopter de-icing a wind turbine look at this shit uh except that photo was from a 2014 2014 test in sweden uh sweden uh and you need fuel oh you need fuel to even clean the windmill so come on y'all remember that scariest thing aside from the fact that we need an upgraded grid system and this has been a necessary thing for so long especially in texas is that this will continue to happen and that's i think what scares me the most is that this will continue to happen. And that's, I think what scares me the most is that we will continue to have weather crisis from here on out period. It's something that we have been having, um, that Texas is aware aside from like, uh, Galveston seeing like, you know, devastation and things like it's going to, our extreme weather is going to continue and whether, whether they want to deny it or not, it will hit them and happen to them.

And so that's the thing that I find. Yeah. But I mean, how much longer can you deny it for? And it's just like instead they spent the past four years focusing on like who's allowed to go into what bathroom and who's allowed to marry who as opposed to like, next, the next decade is going to be a complete change for us. And we're not prepared for it. And you're going to continue to see this stuff happening. I was, I was in Texas when hurricane Katrina hit and we had all new students coming to, to us from new Orleans, like a ton of my coming from, um, new Orleans to Texas. So a ton of my coming from New Orleans to Texas. So a ton of my students, when I was in high school, had to come because they were not being served or having help there. And that's also going to happen in Texas.

Like we're going to continue to have, and here in California, all of us are going to get hit with weather crises and it's frustrating that after seeing this, they will probably still not do enough for the next time when it happens. And they probably also think like, oh, God did this. Right. God is giving us some snow, you know, or whatever. It's just like, they just don't believe, they can deny it, you know, but it's going to continue to happen. And that's what I think is frustrating that they need to get a lot of those officials out of there and someone who's going to accept that this is the new way of life. This is our just like we're going to have to accept wildfires here being a regular, you know, massive thing that keeps happening to us. And embracing the fact that the U.s is a failed state okay you want to spike the football on these other countries talking about oh we're the best you have people

in the the state that generates the most energy not being able to access energy and people like accidentally burning their houses down because they're trying to figure out other ways to generate heat and things like that. And we're still going to feel good about ourselves as a country. The leadership in this day should be ashamed that that happened. And then the fact, but, and I think that's where you hope at a certain point, I don't know what, because the explanations out of the right only get more absurd. And I don't think they're ever going to go the other way.

I mean, we watched a full-on mob take, to rush the Capitol and people who were almost got hurt were like, nah, it's all good. It's all good. It's all good. So I can't imagine even if a fucking avalanche blew down, you know, Greg Abbott's home, he'd still be like, oh, it's Antifa or something. It's just like, it'll never, because that's just sort be like oh it's antifa or something just like it'll never because that's just sort of like it's it's like a mentality that's become a party more than

anything it's like this way of just maneuvering through the world it's not really about any there's no there's like nothing philosophical or ideological about it just like a way of preserving your ego yeah um the rick perry uh came out and said texans should be willing to go without power for a couple days to honor the deregulation gods uh basically uh deregulation is just basically like every man for himself and but applied to a market economy, which, as Enron illustrates, does not work in good times. And as this and every disaster and the pandemic illustrates, is really fucked when it comes to not good times. And just to put the Fox News thing in some context, they've been pushing anti-wind power conspiracies for years now. In 2019, Tucker Carlson claimed that wind power wouldn't be able to heat homes in the winter,

which ignored the fact that Alaska has incredibly successful wind farm energy. 2018, he cited the widespread noise pollution from wind turbines, which is false. Alleged they provide precious little energy, false, and added that turbines kill a lot of birds. And this has been a thing that they really focus on a lot. And as our writer, JM, points out, Tucker Carlson is the heir to the Swanson Frozen Food Company. Hilarious.

Who make all their money off of murdering know murdering chickens and turkeys so the fact that that's something he acts like he's worried about uh in 2011 all the way back then greg gutfeld called wind power the ted bundy of bird killers uh which gross also uh misleading because wind turbines do kill birds but less than uh building glass and vehicles and way less than cats cats kill 2.4 billion birds each year wow and we're not talking about that we're not talking about randy johnson the big unit i saw him i saw him straight murk a bird with a ball once and we're not oh wow yeah and just don't want to acknowledge it. A 2009 study found that

fossil-fueled power stations are responsible for nearly 15 times more bird deaths than wind farms and that is the best they can do is point to birds being killed by wind. On Fox, someone said also Texas was quote totally reliant on windmills also. Nailed it. And again

80 to 90% of that energy mix is generated from fossil fuels. Just, and you can look that up, but you know what? We're not interested in that because I just said that because I'm not interested in facts. I'm just interested in going full steam ahead

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the homeless were compassion fascists women who favored abortion were feminazis environmentalists were tree hugging wackos he delivered AIDS updates with a Dionne Warwick song I'll never love this way again ridiculed Michael J. Fox's

Parkinson's disease symptoms and called global warming a hoax. On the AIDS update thing there's a somebody pointed out like that's that doesn't give you the full he used to read the names of people

who died and have celebratory moments whenever another AIDS victim died which he called the aids updates yeah and then he lied about a bunch of shit constantly so disgusting yeah yeah i know because deon warwick was like one of the first celebrities to really come out in support of like the fighting against the aids epidemic so that's why so he was trolled cool and for the people there's there's also this like even from like the new y the people there's also this like

even from like the New York Times there's like this begrudging but you gotta hand it to the guy and like I think we're learning from all the hacks who like got cancelled and immediately gone to become like right

wing celebrities after years of being like middling mainstream media personalities or failed screenwriters and terrible novelists. In Ben Shapiro's case, that it's not as hard to get an audience when you're telling white supremacists and misogynists the lies they already want to believe. Just because you have a huge audience doesn't mean you are

talented that just means that you tapped into a vein in the country that is fucking evil and disgusting all they're all they're doing is hugely damaging all they're just saying is saying problematic shit but real witty and with charisma that's the difference it's no different than when someone's yelling hate speech at someone it's like, you've now turned it into a segment where you're playing music and you're, it's not just, it's, you're going like, there's a spectacle to this sort of content. And I think that's why a lot of failed comedians end up doing so well. It's because it's like, yeah, I'm just going to do like mean jokes basically, but as an ideology and just talk like that all the time and say everyone's disgusting or freaks or what the fuck. And people are going to just be like, hey, man, he said it better than I could have.

That's funny. He made up his own racial slur. I'm going to use that now. that same with the people that did the attack on Congress, is that they consider themselves outcasts when they are like the actual most privileged people in the world. Right. Like that to me is just so, I don't know, someone should do a documentary.

I'm fascinated and horrified by the psychology behind, like you said, like failed comedians who then they have nowhere to go. So they become, they join the alt-right, which is like several people that have been in our industry that I've known who have like gotten canceled, that we've watched get canceled and go over there. But like so many of them carry this like out, like I'm the one that's harmed. And it's like, they're literally some of the most privileged people in this country. And it's just so... I also wonder if they actually believe what they're saying.

If they were on our side, they got rejected or canceled, and now they go over there. Do they actually believe the stuff that they're saying? Or are they aware that they're just cashing in? I don't know i mean i think a lot of it is like this weird thing that whiteness specifically can do to american people which is on one hand tell you you're the best you're number one and you should have everything but then if you're a working class white person your lived experience is not is nothing like that so in a way that like begins a feeling of like, I should have,

what the fuck? Like, even though you are benefiting massively, look, you got to beat a police officer with a hockey stick, but there's still this feeling. It's like, they also know that though the,

the treatment of people could be better, whether they want it or not. I think there is this feeling like it could be better, but I don't know how to articulate that. So I'm really just going to stay angry and be on this other, you know, regressive programming, which is point the finger and yell at everybody except myself or the country that is responsible for this. or the country that is responsible for this i watched uh judas and the black messiah over the weekend and one of the things that jumped out to me is that fred hampton before he was assassinated by the fbi was uniting like poor white people and uh you know with uh gangs and just all like uniting across, uh, underprivileged classes. Uh,

and that's the thing that I feel like is underrepresented about, uh, when Martin Luther King Jr was assassinated is he was in Memphis, uh, on a anti-poverty, uh, movement. And he was in the midst of a anti-poverty,

like, uh, supporting unions, supporting people, trying to make it a class movement as opposed to specifically racial. And that seems to be the thing that the uniting of those factions really seems to scare the shit out of the ruling class. scare the shit out of uh the the ruling class and finally uh the cruella trailer dropped we we talked about how the poster looked like shit yesterday uh on trending but um the the trailer looks kind of fun very very dark yeah very jokery yeah yeah yeah yeah but it looks fun i mean i like the visual

aesthetic of it i'm like oh this looks this looks pretty cool yeah uh but i don't know i didn't realize it's funny when i'm like it's a character who i didn't ever really thought about what a backstory could look like and so my the trailer was like showing me what that was and i was like oh shit cruelty fools into some shit huh okay i see her she's a getaway i feel like that's probably also from maleficent because they had a couple of you know that was like one of their first ones where they were like let's look at the origin story of some of these uh some of these villains chase mitchell who's a comedy writer, tweeted this morning. He said,

I've always wanted to see a sympathetic origin story for a character whose main ambition in life is to kill a very large specific number of small dogs. I do think that it's funny that we're supposed to be sympathetic for her. Same with Maleficent. It's like why she became why she broke bad like what happened to her that made her a villain and so I do think it's funny that

we're gonna be like oh she's just misunderstood and also skins alive animals right like give her give her a chance I don't know this is kind of hard yeah that's I mean that's been one of the main rules of movies is that you can't kill dogs generally and if you do it has to be like a super big like building up to that point like that is a emotionally crushing thing for a movie audience and it's like the i am legend shit yeah i am legend thing like it has to be the main thing where you're just like oh this trailer like does show us dalmatians but they're mean they are the meanest dalmatians i've ever seen like they just make them like vicious like when she walks into a room they're like ah right so mad at her it's like so dogs read energy right do they go edgy with it and they actually show her just like doing wild animal abuse this wasn't a kid's film i paid 75 for this on disney it would make more sense if she was like

um selena cut like a cat woman yeah like that would make more sense like michelle pfeiffer's like cat like if she were surrounded which i don't think she is or that i could tell but like that would make more sense to me if she were like oh my precious or if a dog killed her cat when she was growing up and so now she has like a vendetta against dogs like that makes a lot of sense to me if she's a cat but in the end we're still being like that'll make sense for her to kill 101 dalmatians right it's sort of the end point where like, I mean, okay. I get it. I'll silo this as its own thing

and just be like, you know, go off Cruella. I also don't like how much can it be a kids movie because like kids don't, kids aren't into antiheroes. Like when I show my kids Breaking Bad, they're like what why is that guy such a jerk dad um i can't think of any so my kids breaking bad they didn't like that scene that rat patrol scene where they got all the snitches yeah that coordinated hit yeah yeah

i actually can't think of any villain movies that i've enjoyed as a kid that's no that's like when you become i felt like that was me thinking I was becoming an adult wasn't I? I watched it like that and I'm like yo that fucked up person actually I like that character cause my parents just got divorced and now I can see the spectrum of pain in life

like I don't know yeah be interesting but anyways Danny as always such a pleasure having you Like, I don't know. Yeah. Be interesting. But anyways, Dani, as always, such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you and follow you? I'm at Ms. Dani Fernandez, M-S-D-A-N-I-F-E-R-N-A-N-D-E-Z on Twitter and Instagram. And also, I'm on Clubhouse, which which some people are using but that's just at Danny Fernandez what do you do on there it's like I did a panel for Gloria Calderon Kellett who's a

showrunner for One Day at a Time asked me to be on a panel about breaking into Hollywood and so it's kind of it's an audio forum so it's uh like a big room that hundreds of people can be in but like there's selected speakers and you can raise your hand kind of like in zoom or blue jeans if you guys have had to use that yeah uh during this time but i personally it gives me a little bit of anxiety uh doing it because i can't see anyone so oh so it's like doing like a big conference call yes that's literally actually that's exactly it and sometimes people talk over each other and but right right there are some really good uh people were talking about the stock market like they had people on there

that were breaking it down there's also casting directors that talk about like how to do a good audition like so you can learn things. And a lot of these, uh, or if you're Lakeith Stanfield, there's a moaning room. It was just men moaning. Um, and he popped in there and was moaning and you can't see anyone.

Right. So he, Lakeith like popped into the moaning room and was just like moaning in there. So you will not find me in the moaning rooms and was just like moaning in there so you will not find me in the moaning rooms um also when i was gonna say when we were talking about um like reboots and casting and stuff up top i had wanted him for willie wonka i still want yes if they're gonna reboot it he would be so good because they're thinking of tom ho or Timothee Chalamet. And I'm like, there are more people in this industry, I swear to God. But I think Lakeith would be fun.

And while Janelle Monae is another one, obviously. And she also dressed up like him. So either of those, I think, are more interesting and could do a lot more with the discovering different aspects of the also he's fictional like this is what i say about all these characters whenever people are like but he's white he's also not real he's literally quite literally not real um that's how i feel about all of the dc and marvel characters as well they were made up and they were also made up typically in the 50s and 60s when black and brown people weren't allowed to be on a lot of these comics so we only had a very small select few um which were great but also it's really okay uh yeah look uh look we'll let you rap and stuff

you know and continue to appropriate the culture left and right but uh yeah we can i think we can switch out a couple of the physical bodies for these made-up characters like it'll be it'll literally be okay it's one thing if you're doing a hologram of your father for a memorial service and it's like well that's not my dad was i don't know it was not taiwanese but yeah uh that's i yeah maybe there's not creative license for a hologram memorial but if we're talking about fictitious fictitious people people said this about game of thrones like not to go on my tangent but really quickly people would say like well it's just there's not a lot of black and brown people because it's you know historically they weren't

uh they historically i'm sorry weren't around during the dragon time when was the dragon time i missed the dragon time they're like yeah but during that time and i'm like when when was that time tell me in our history okay i will one second may i answer your question with another and with a question which is danny do you speak westerosi okay that's i'm just i want to start there so i know where we're starting this debate from. Anyway, that is my... Anytime someone says that, I'm like, it's a television show. It is a fake... Yeah, listen to yourself.

It's a fake... This person, this woman had dragons coming out of her. Like, this is not real. Anyways, you can have black and brown people. Man, Cersei was a black woman? Woo! Shit. Speaking of Lakeith Stanfield, he needs be uh nominated for judas and the black messiah did y'all know that uh and daniel clue you too but did you guys know that the academy award cutoff is

like mid like late february this year oh that makes sense yeah it does make sense but i didn't like nobody's really talking about that you could. You could game the awards this year because a few things came out that suddenly you're like, yeah, I don't know. I guess that's the best. I feel like I don't have an opinion on anything this year. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying?

Oh, shit. You can find me on Twitter and instagram at miles of gray and also the other podcast for 20 day fiance uh let's see a tweet that i like this is from uh brody reed and a sentiment a lot of uh comedians in the la area have have talked about and this is kind of inside baseball but i will just say this tweet uh he says quote spent all morning trying to think of creative things to say about rush and couldn't think of anything mean enough probably not going to get the john stewart thing not gonna lie shout out to everybody submitting for that john stewart yeah churning um good oh and then one

more sorry people submitting though that that show might be dope there's oh hell yeah uh and just one more because it sort of piggybacks on that from robert evans at i write okay why speak ill of the dead when you can sing that's hilarious yeah there are so many good good rush tweets um tweet i was enjoying dc pearson tweeted is twitter the only hobby whose practitioners regularly lament everything about it I'm just imagining a bunch of bowlers sitting around the alley going fuck this place this is hell

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as well as a song that Miles is recommending that we are no longer playing at the end of the show. I think a lot of people are like, wait, you guys forgot to put the song in. We're not doing that anymore. No, we didn't do that. Plus, man, you gotta just go out there and listen to the whole thing. Yeah.

You know, wouldn't you want an audio handout? Yeah, it'll taste so much better when you go do the work yourself. That's why we're doing it. But this track is an edit of a Masego track called Navajo, which is dope. If you haven't seen the Color Show version of it on YouTube, check that out. But it's a remix by Ikani, E-K-A-N-Y. It's Navajo, but the Masego flip.. Check that out. But it's a remix by Ikani. I-K-A-N-Y. It's Navajo, but the Masego flip. So check this out on

SoundCloud. And it's, oh man. It's great. It's wonderful. It's just got like, because if you don't know Masego, amazing. It plays sax. Does a dope looping. Great singer. And then just when you add a little bit of a remix on it, it just takes things to a whole

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