The Daily Zeitgeist - That Ain’t Kate! Recessions Are Healthy! 03.20.24

Episode Date: March 20, 2024

In episode 1644, Jack and Miles are joined by co-host of The Bechdel Cast and author of Raw Dog, Jamie Loftus, to discuss… Only In America - Recessions Are Actually BETTER for People’s Health, The U.S. Is Finally... (Sort Of) Almost Banning Asbestos, Inflation Keeps Going Up “More Than Expected”, Now Kate Middleton Conspiracy Theorists Have Their Own Zapruder Film To Analyze and more! Only In America - Recessions Are Actually BETTER for People’s Health The U.S. Is Finally... (Sort Of) Almost Banning Asbestos The US just announced an asbestos ban. What took so long? Inflation Picks Up to 3.2%, Slightly Hotter Than Expected What a Socialist Response to Inflation Should Look Like Now Kate Middleton Conspiracy Theorists Have Their Own Zapruder Film To Analyze Prince William, Kate Middleton's new video sparks more conspiracy theories LISTEN: Sprinter (TJAY Remix) by Central Cee & DaveSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 330, Episode 3 of Dirt Daily's iGeist Day, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday, March 20th, 2024. 3-20-24. Good buddy. Guess what? It's National Proposal Day. So I hope you get off your keister

and start asking people to marry you. Alright? Because that's what it's supposed to be today. Multiple people. I'm averaging three to four people a day on National Proposal Day. Strong handshakes of mutual benefit type. Multiple people. I'm averaging three to four people a day. You got national proposal. Strong handshakes of mutual benefit type proposals. Exactly. Business oriented.

You're going to want to hear me out here. You're going to want to hear me out here. I know what you're thinking. Good for your career and mine. It's also National Ravioli Day. So shout out Ravioli. Wow. Ravioli. That's also National Ravioli Day. So shout out Ravioli. Wow. That's my marriage of convenience.

Ravioli bag. So shout out to Ghostface. Shout out to the Zagat's sketches from SNL. Each word more useless than the last. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a.

O-O-O-O'Brien You know Co-host of the Daily Zeitgeist That is courtesy of Oh shit I cut the name off Fuck

Fuck me No No I did it again I embarrassed myself Oh god I humiliated my team No it's okay You got this

No Hello Sorry I just got No, it's okay. You've got this. No. Hello? Wow. Hello? Sorry, I just got distracted by it. I'm on Twitter now, actually. I'm on Reddit, dude.

I'm trying to find Kate Middleton. Where's she at? Sorry. I just got some good intel about Kate Middleton. This is a really cool thing. This guy used AI to make the coolest muscle cars into strollers. So like for that real motorhead dad. Yeah.

I just saw a gallery of that. What if a car was a guy? I'm just saying, like has anyone ever done anything with that? What if my baby was a Dodge Dart? And I'm not talking

Lightning McQueen style. I'm talking about mcqueen style i'm talking about a guy yeah i'm talking about titan style a guy car center man yeah well this is awkward uh discord just crashed on me and then said well this is awkward you know the host of the dailies oh that's from hannah that's from hannah dude is it oh? Oh, Brian, you know. Host on the Daily Dino. It's all Jack, you know. That one is courtesy of Hannah Ramick View, a.k.a. Hannah Soltis, on the Discord. Shout out to you.

Shout out to... They said, a.k.a. to Magic by Pilot, more popularly known as the Ozempic song. Yeah. Ozempic. Ozempic. That's mainly how we know it and that will be its lasting cultural legacy uh anyways has become so hollow ozempic you know my shits are probably really weird uh i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray Miles Gray, okay

Look at this photograph It was altered on Kate's behalf Is she an MI6 agent abroad? Or was she buried with the queen and her dogs? And the palace won't still debunk That she's not in pierce morgan's trunk is she a vampire that can't be filmed or an android they need to rebuild all right shut up salvador jolly you know just giving me a chance to get that nickel back and then intersect

that with the kate middleton whatever the fuck is going on over there thing. I think we know. Love that. She's back. She's back. She was grocery shopping the whole time. It's a Dave situation, dude. It's a Dave situation. I trust the crown. That is my one I'm generally very skeptical

but I do trust the royal family and whatever they tell me. If we can't trust them, who can we trust? Honestly. Honestly. We're thrilled to be joined, Miles, in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore.

An Emmy-nominated writer, artist, comedian behind many of the most acclaimed podcasts like ActCast, Ghost Church, the Bechdel cast. She's the author of the New York Times bestselling book, Raw Dog. And her newest podcast, 15 Minutes is Dropping in May. It's Jamie Lovner!

Jamie Lovner! I'm so back. AKA the dogmeister. AKA J-Lo, the real one. The real, real, real me. The real, real, real J-Lo with connections to Boston. There you go. I'm going to release my, yeah, my documentary is going to be the real, real me.

Right. From the heart, mind, dreams, and souls of Jamie Loftus, like it said in that trailer. My galactic, my galactic, like, what is it? My galactic group of celebrities is going to be it's going to be you guys will be there oh no i thought you said celebrities though look it's but like the real real me is this podcast it's like you guys the dough boys will be there they'll be there as well they're you know it's will be there. Does her movie take place in a heaven

of celebrities? The other J-Lo's? I'll be honest. The other J-Lo's movie, I didn't get through it. I wanted to watch it. You started it though? I started it. I got about halfway in. It is just a series of

disjointed bad music videos right but it's connected by j-lo in therapy and her therapist of course is fat joe and fat joe is like well why don't you like it's about her journey to find love so you i i think ben affleck shows up in the back half i didn't get that far but she's constantly talking about astrology and then it cuts to heaven where astrology lives yes and there's like a celebrity court there's 12 celebrities each represent a different astrological sign post malone is there jane fonda's there jane fonda as jane fonda post malone jane fonda as like sagittarius oh they're all playing different uh signs neil degrasse tyson is there it's a weird group of people and you can tell the way it was filmed that none of them were in the same room right but what i why i really wanted to watch it

and why i'm going to get through it is because the real good movie is the documentary about the making of the movie in which all 12 celebrities are like, J-Lo, you shouldn't do this. It doesn't make any sense. Is that real? Yeah. I was reading the Vanity Fair piece that came out in advance of it where all the best parts were things like Jane Fonda being like, I don't know, girl. Like, I don't know if I would do this if I were you. But like, I guess if you really want me to, I guess.

But like, for real, I wouldn't do it. I truly I take I would take Jane Fonda's PR advice very seriously. Right. But but J-Lo did not listen. I guess I don't know. I'm excited to watch it i guess like there's a good portion of it is her like being stressed out to ben affleck on the couch and him being like it's all good babe don't worry are you smoking inside again no no

fucking wind okay so let's see post mal Jack, that's your zodiac sign. Post Malone is the Leo. Yes. I have very strong Post Malone energy. Same. I've been told. Jane Fonda is Sagittarius. Sophia Vergara is Cancer.

Uh-huh. Jennifer Lewis is, you know, obviously playing twin duty here as Gemini. Trevor Noah Libra. Kim Petras is Virgo. Okay. K Gemini. Trevor, Nola, Libra. Kim Petras is Virgo. Okay. Kiki Palmer. Oh, yeah. This is someone

described as a spot-on Maya Angelou impersonation as Scorpio. Wow. Like, really? Didn't catch it. Didn't catch it. I guess I'm never looking

for a Maya Angelou impression. Yeah. And then, that's right. Gotta keep your head on a swivel out there looking for the Maya Angelou impressions. Yeah. And then, that's right. Gotta keep your head on a swivel out there looking for the Maya Angelou impressions. You never know. You got to.

They'll slip right by you. But it, like, I had only seen the preview, but hearing the summary, it really feels like she was conceiving this with the idea in mind that in a thousand years, people would still be, be like puzzling over this and like looking for the like theological implications of the universe that she had created. I love that. I feel like J-Lo is just like such a powerful example of like someone just has not said no to her in a long time.

No. And watching that erupt. I'm very, I mean, I have to support the J-Lo industrial complex. I'm a part of it. One of the foremost parts of it. This is the real, real, real me.

There's no such thing as ethical consumption when you live under the J-Lo. And we've finally gotten to the core. This is the real, real, real Jamie Loftus. Jamie, what is 15 Minutes about? It is my new podcast. It's a weekly show where every week we take a look at one of the internet characters of the day from grand internet history.

Our first episode is going to be a look back at the hide your kids, hide your wife phenomenon. And I'm interviewing antoine dodson himself so it'll be a different character of the day every week starting in may amazing i'm excited well we are too uh we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first a couple of things that we're talking about later on this is for some reason shaping up to be like our economic episode with you know party we had Jamie on and we're like... I'm an economist. We have one of our foremost economists on.

So we're going to talk about how recession's actually good for your health. We're going to talk about... Did you guys know asbestos isn't banned? Hey, just the last kind they banned. Oh, I really did think you were about to be like, did you know asbestos isn't bad? Isn't that bad? It's not that for nothing. It's candy, essentially.

You can't say that at work. And it melts in your mouth like it. It tastes good. It does taste better than you would expect. We'll talk about inflation because that just keeps going up. And people are like, huh, that's weird. That's not what our charts say should be happening. Supply chain problem over why inflation keep going up. So we'll take a quick look at that

offer a very loose theory. We will check in with the Kate Middleton conspiracy theorists just to see how they're doing. All of that, plenty more. But first, first jamie loftus we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history or we added a new wrinkle if you'd like uh what's the most recent thing that you screen capped oh okay so i'll give you both okay the fur the thing i googled recently because i i i fumble i don't really do st patrick's day since i moved here but these are both st patrick's day related i feel like they're gonna be like since i think it's a non-holiday like since i moved here since i don't respect my family yeah no that's fucked up

but i did i did want to pre-order it for next year because we recently we were covering the departed on an upcoming episode of the Bechdel cast. And I wanted to get the shirt that the Jack Nicholson character is killed in, the one that it just says Irish on it. Oh, you're really wearing a shirt that says Irish? He's wearing a green t-shirt that has a shamrock. And you think it's going to say Boston, which would be on the nose as it is. But it instead just says irish underneath the shamrock and that's the spoiler alert for a you know 15 year old movie he gets killed but he he bleeds

out through the irish shirt and i was like i want the irish shirt yeah that's so poor francis is he like in disguise as like a volleyball player or something he's just that he's just happens to be like a volleyball player or something he's just that he's the opposite he's never in disguise frank frank oh franco or whatever his name is in the he's francis yeah frank costello he's frank costello yeah he's he is irish through and through and he doesn't care if it's on his shirt which brings me to the thing i screenshotted because i do think you know the fact that every movie about boston takes place at either harvard or in like three blocks of southie it troubles me yeah there's so much more out there but i every year on st patrick's day i like to fondly remember this was nine years ago that uh in 2015, I was working at the Boston Globe and I did a piece where I hung out at a bar in Southie all day on St. Patrick's Day and wrote about what I saw, there was a column published in the Boston Herald that quoted two to three different political officials calling me a bigot against...

Against Irish? Against Irish. Wow. It was really fun. Headlined, True Life. I was a bartender in Southie. Oh, yeah, I was like shadowing a bartender. The post was written by Boston.com writer Jamie Loftus.

Every day is a drunk day in Southie, but St. Paddy's Day runs by a completely separate set of laws, wrote Loftus, whose website bio says she is also a stand-up and sketch performer. Her take on life in Southie didn't sit well with two of the neighborhood's most prominent residents. I'm surprised such bigoted views are still tolerated at Boston.com, said U.S. Representative Stephen Lynch. Wow. It's very disrespectful,

added former Mayor Raymond L. Flynn. We experienced the finest day of our life yesterday with family, faith, and friends. We could dismiss these comments as from uninformed people. They don't know us. We're simple, ordinary

people from South Boston, Flynn said. It's unfortunate some people judge us, but you can't control that. I wish they'd know us better. Mayor Martin J. Walsh declined comment. Oh, wow. Walsh declined comment. Oh, wow. They just belayed my ass.

The mayor declined comment. How did your career ever recover? Your fucking congressman fucking flamed you. Looking at his political record is pretty hilarious because he's just famously not a great great person right but yeah no i mean i was crying i called my dad crying i was like they roasted my ass in the paper and he is like no this is the best thing that's ever happened to you it's funny we're saving this family yeah yeah yes that's amazing i i mean you were crying i remember that day as well as an Irish person. And my whole family was crying as well because of what you wrote about us.

Because it was disrespectful. Disrespectful. We were having the best day of your life with family, faith, and friends. We just had the best day of our life. Like such an overstatement. Like such an unhinged way to respond to that. Like it's truly like a five-year-old being like, this was the best day of my life.

And then you ruined it with this comment that people in Boston Southie likes to drink. What is that even? Where do you even get this stuff from? He said. The guy who assaulted Iranian American students in the 70s. He's a fucking wild... I mean, his whole shit is backwards.

His record is gross. Yeah, but I'm bigoted against the Irish. Even though he was arrested for assaulting six Iranian students. Okay. In the 70s, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like in the 70s. South was a different place in the 70s.

Hey, the charges were dropped. The charges were dropped. They were dropped. Good impression of Bark Walpert. I'm just saying, if I had been there on that day that she was shadowing that bartender, things would have gone down a little differently. Exactly, bro. Boston.com wouldn't even exist would have been written an article about how i was working out at three three in the morning i mean yeah i the the tenor of that story would

have changed quite a bit if mark walberg started doing push-ups in the middle what's something you think is underrated the spicy potato taco at taco bell i'm. I'm really laying into it recently. Taco Bell, obviously, one of the best fast food options for people trying to eat less meat. I'm trying to eat less meat outside of hot dogs, which I don't count as a meat for me. Oh, come on. Mitt Romney disagrees. I'm trying to get burgers. I'm trying to get extraneous meat because I can't get the hot dogs out of rotation. But I'm trying to get rid of other meat.

So I'm deep into spicy potato taco. I can't say enough good things about it. Is it as advertised? Or it's Taco Bell spicy? It's like Chipotle mayo spicy. First of all. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay okay don't tell me that wait really there's no potato what are they when he asked if it was as advertised

no it's not it's just leftovers yeah but yeah no i've been uh i've been racking up the points with the spicy potato taco. Perfect. It's not too spicy. I'm like, I can't handle it. Maybe that's where my true Irish-ness takes hold. Can't really do spicy. And it's like Chipotle mayo spicy is what I would line it up with it's really good two of those and you're just you're just set two of those at 11 p.m maybe you're depressed maybe you're functioning on a level you couldn't have previously conceived yeah right just hovering two inches off the ground yeah i yeah tangy is like tangy is synonymous with spicy in a lot of the the world of fast food but uh not to disparage that those those look good i i'm gonna fuck with them this is this is an underrated that is going to change my life i wanted to change your life what is uh what's something you think is overrated let's see okay so i was going to say pizza hut i just like i'm i'm wow yeah but they're the same family i know i know i'm coming i'm i'm i've got it on

the brain i'm coming off of i did a dog boys episode yesterday so i'm like in i'm in there i'm thinking about yum pizza it episode? It's all of the... Oh, God, I'm going to misremember. We were covering all of the restaurants that are owned by the company Yum, which also, I guess, owns some weird proprietary AI technology, which is kind of scary, that aren't Taco Bell. So that was Pizza Hut, The Habit, and kfc so i was sampling from all these places and pizza hut trash like just really bad and everything it reminded me of like i don't know

also it's just like uh fall into the wayside like vibes wise too because i feel like pizza hut 20 years ago i would go on a date to pizza hut 20 years ago they got the lamp it's kind of like dark and and like sexy they're now not dark not sexy mostly counters not sexy and the pizza sucks the pizza sucks it's like cheesy bread i feel like there's no sauce really to speak of right is? Is that still how pizza trends? It's greasy. That's what, there's a time and a place for Pizza Hut pizza with me.

Cause that greasy ass crust. I'm like, Oh fuck. Yeah. It's like just all it's, it's wild how greasy the fucking crust is. But I'll take it. It's nasty.

I just feel like is that you're getting like little Caesars quality for like twice the price for no reason. Yeah. That feels right. Pisses me off. It's like the difference to me between Denny's and IHOP where IHOP costs like 30% more for like for what reason is unclear. I'm still mad about. Okay.

Something that was overrated was the Minions tie in menu at IHOP in the summer of 2022. I still think about that a lot. That was so... That injustice. I'm assuming a lot of banana. Banana. Yeah, but the titles were garbage. There was one that I think about all the time where it was Cold Brew on the Minions.

It's easy, easy home run. Cold Brew cold grew that's the name that they would have given it you know what they call it on the menu grew coffee what i was beside myself do you think they did some like market research and they're like people just aren't picking the pun up and we just they're not getting cold grew. Then you have no business ordering out the minions menu. If you can't get cold grew. And then another thing. I went to, not to brag, but I'm a Universal Studios season pass holder.

Thank you so much. I think after buying it, do they still do the thing where it's like, hey man, if you come once, we'll give you a season pass holder. Thank you so much. I think after buying it, do they still do the thing where it's like, hey man, if you come once, we'll give you a season pass. Just give us 20 more dollars and you can come every day. Is it still that?

Yes. Yeah. Okay. It's a little more expensive now, but my favorite thing about it still is that you can bring your laptop there and just like write at Moe's. So sometimes I'll just do that.

I'll just write at Moe's. Anyways, I went to Minions Land land they have a minions cafe equally trash menu titles i ordered something from there with caitlin a couple months ago that was just called evil mac and cheese and it was why mac and cheese why who's naming these like it's truly they're not even having the meeting like the brainstorm it's just first idea is the best idea it feels like a computer yeah made the decision or something yeah grew coffee did not pass through a human mind of any sort yeah they would i would i would punch these menu items up for free. Yeah. Leaving money on the table. You just start.

Yeah. You just start leaving like little USB drives. You're like, I don't know. This is like a there's like a whole Canva presentation here for you guys to check out. You can integrate if you want to have all the PSD files there if you want. Just call it cold groove, folks. How hard could it possibly be? Yeah.

I don't know. I love I love the when you because I had a season pass to Universal for one time. And we were like, oh, let's just upgrade it so we can come back. And I remember going back twice. And it was just to be high at the fucking Whoville Christmas thing. Being like, oh, shit. Oh, my God. I went this year.

And then leaving after 10 minutes. Yeah. I like that they go... That's what I think is the most baller shit. Being at the theme park for 10 minutes. You can get there on the train and then, yeah, just like plant somewhere. It's nice. Meanwhile, families are making memories

and I'm, you know, on like mushroom pills at Moe's. Yeah. Googling stuff. Being like, who's writing these menus? Evil mac and cheese? It's horse shit. Is it the lady with the tables yeah yeah yeah they're like

fucking dinner plates right now i feel like there's an alternate universe where pizza hut pizza parlors like stayed in business and have wi-fi and are like a place where people just hang out all day and like work like most places tried to to, I mean, Chuck E. Cheese tried to do that, which is like really weird, but like, and it didn't try to be like a third, the third space besides work and home. You just go and hang at Chuck E.

Cheese. Sure. Childless adults. Come on in. I mean, you kid, but in the mid 2010s, they were like,

all right, we now serve coffee. We got a panini press. you don't need a kid we have wi-fi please come through and it's like you can't really like i you know i did but like you should you shouldn't yeah right right it looks bad what if pizza hut is just like leaned into their literary kind of reputation with our generation because they were paying us to read books with with personal pan pizzas and they just became like the salon of the modern era wow i love yeah that they they just need to like get some like industry plants to form an algonquin table

like thing at a local pizza hut just Just big pitchers of Pepsi and beer. The thinking man's pizza. Yeah. I was reflecting recently, not to keep talking about, but I was reflecting recently on, do you remember, this was like 10 years ago, where Chipotle was trying to be the literary fast food restaurant for a while. They were like publishing George Saunders short stories on their bags. Yeah, it was really bizarre.

It didn't work out. It's also like a thing that, so Pizza Hut kind of because they do sell caffeinated beverages. But Chipotle is food that drains your brain of energy is just like you were eating food that like makes you want to take a nap it's a real weird fit for them to then be like and now it's a place where you can hang out and discuss ideas it's like no you're putting yourself into a coma like that's what chipotle does for you yeah i mean is that just me am i the only one who eats chipotle to a degree that i think i feel like they have to like that if you want if chipotle wants me to read a book they have to be like it's and it is your bathroom book it's the

one that is like on top of your toilet we have the best toilets in town yeah yes exactly come on in yeah all right let's take a quick break and we will be right back We have the best toilets in town. Yes, exactly. Come on in. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we will be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control

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Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And let's talk about why recession's good for your health. Exactly. Thank you.

Thank God. Good news for us millennials. I don't even need an explanation. Of course it's good for our health. Because it's bad for corporations, good for our health. That's the thing. Let's not get too upset about a recession. for our health.

That's your thing. Let's not get too upset about a recession. But look, as a millennial, and many of us are here, millennial or younger or slightly older in Jack's case.

What? I'm not that. Well, anyway, I'm far too familiar with recessions. Millennial Gen Z. But you tend to. Exactly.

No, Jack, that's my lie. That's my lie. Gen Z. We forgot. Actually, Gen Z. We forgot. Genomically. Basically, I'm Gen Z. That's my lie. We forgot. Actually, Gen Z. We forgot, canonically. Basically, I'm Gen Z.

Canonically Gen Z on the show. But, you know, the effects of a recession are pretty violent, you know, not just financially, spiritually. It alters your sense of what's possible. You begin to question if the future you were promised was just some kind of fucked up prank. It is. And we'll guess. It is. And well, guess what? Even though we may have gone to a dark place because the wealthy stole our futures, there is a bright side because new research suggests that resections,

resections, actually are actually good for life expectancy. Quote in this study from like a health economist found that during the great recession from 2007 to 2009 age-adjusted mortality rates among americans dropped half a percent for every jump of one percentage point in an area's unemployment rate the more joblessness the longer people lived especially adults over 64 and those without a college education and these effects were immediate and lasted for 10 years, according to this research.

It said the effects are so large that it effectively provided 4% of all 55-year-olds with an extra year of life, like some kind of fucked up video game. So, wow. Actually, nevermind. I love wealthy redistribution. I wonder, was it because healthcare

got better during that time or maybe infection rates for certain illnesses went down? Yeah, that was the thing that jumped in my mind is that like maybe people just didn't get as many flus because they weren't at work. Or it could have been having to have that difficult discussion with yourself of having to decide whether you want to start a family or just continue eating Taco Bell hot sauce packets as a dinner. But what's the catch here? Oh, guess what it's the fact the health benefits were a result of towns being so dead economically that pollution went down specifically the right reduction in pm 2.5 a particular particulate matter that's i don't this this very much rings to me of like how once a year,

they're like another sort of like poorly, like all these poorly sourced research things where you're like, and who said that like alcohol actually helps your liver and you should, you actually should be drinking more of it. Of like, we're like 500 cups of coffee a day will turn you into god like they're into mother god um or i mean in my neck of the woods of like uh every time you eat a hot dog you lose 36 minutes of your life and you're just like i don't believe we time the spirit of this.

It feels like a coping. It's just a cope research. But also, but it's kind of real in the sense that it's basically just saying it's like, because this is what they're saying. Fewer people drive to work during recession. Factories and offices slow down. People cut back on energy use. So all the reduced activity leans to cleaner air so it's like it's all of

the pollution that they're just like oh yeah well because no one's working there's less pollution because we're already killing ourselves in that way that this is this added a year but it's interesting because to your point in this article it goes on to sort of be like an attack against people who are advocating for like degrowth like in saying like this idea of infinite growth is actually too bad. It's like, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Maybe these violent boom and bust cycles are good for us. Right. Yeah. They're like, we should be in a recession longer because then a tree might grow.

And it's like, well, but how could we get a tree to grow while people have jobs? No, but that's how that's how the wealthy are able to siphon up more wealth and a tree grows. Yeah. Yeah. My takeaway from this is just like, oh, man, like this system is terrible. We're like the quality of our air is so much worse than they're telling us anywhere else except for this article where they're like so it's okay that we fucked the economy like that's fine like it just got an extra little bit of truth like slips out where they're like yeah so don't don't worry about it too much because

you'll you'll actually live longer because we have slowed down on just belching poison into the air. That's always something, especially Alec Katsanis, who we talk about a lot on the show, in terms of he does a lot of great reporting and writing about social justice and specifically propaganda. But he also always raises as the crime that doesn't get paid attention to. He always raises, like, companies polluting the, like,

air and water. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, I mean, I know that happens, but whatever. It's just,

like, to see the actual details of, like, oh, yeah, if you live around factories, you're kind of fucked. Right.

Like, you're actually just, just like shaving years off your life the murky thing too which is like even with people without college education which is what they mean are like working class people who are living in areas that have less protection so they live in highly polluted areas it's like and there's even benefits for everyone it's like wow yeah but when it's air pollution or like shit that they put in the walls of public buildings there's not a whole lot that can be protecting you you'd think that people would be more up on this like the yeah right yeah related story is that the u.s is finally sort of almost

banning asbestos which i would have thought was banned i am really ago that was that like a moment of cultural like i it wasn't right did people just realize it was bad and then be like so probably don't use it we're not gonna you can do whatever you want but probably don't use it yeah right they so i think they discovered that asbestos writ large, bad, and banned all but the most profitable types of asbestos. Which profitable types? Yeah. Which have remained in use and contributed to the deaths of tens of thousands of Americans every year. Like, that's absurd that yeah yeah that's how how is this just a thing that we're

just not talking about all the time again it just feels like one of those things that we should be the only thing that newspapers write about yeah i thought the government had like a whole mission accomplished banner and shit in the 80s being like we're done folks we're off that shit yeah it's like the famously like cliche poison thing like you know like there's simpsons jokes i'm sure about asbestos like the it's just a thing that we've all known since i was born in the early 2000s that we've all known was poisonous yeah but yeah the u.s is quote joining more than 50 other countries that have already outlawed the substance the ban comes after decades of pushback from companies that have used it in everything from consumer goods to manufacturing processes that's in npr that's not like in some you know left-wing zine that's yeah they're just they've been using this shit there's no

protections in a world where it's just like the corporations get to largely make the decisions based on whatever is the most profitable for them and is it yeah it's just connected to i'm just shocked that people can still make money off of asbestos. Like fucking pivot. Right. Pivot from asbestos. It takes me back to, I mean, just I'm sure that there's been a lot written about it. But just like how the EPA was characterized as like this, like, I mean, like as the villain of Ghostbusters. Yeah, bad guy Ghostbusters.

Yeah, like that. There is this ghoulish, you know, kind of like killjoy initiative. Yeah, like that. There is ghoulish, you know, kind of like killjoy initiative. And then fast forward, you know, 3040 years and people are still dying of asbestos. Yeah. So real win for the for the Ghostbusters. They showed them. times because like my one of my really good friends their their dad was in the navy and there was asbestos all in those ships during the vietnam war and they were just no respirator on just fucking taking lungfuls of that shit and then unfortunately got mesothelioma from it yeah that like you see sort of like the reverberations from our less regulated period but then i'm like curious like what is this form now did like the industry be like no no this is like this one's like way less like look this one's more low risk it's like low risk i mean still asbestos so there's some risk but it seems like they're saying that the use of

chrysotile asbestos or chrysotile i don't i don't know how to chrysotile asbestos you're gonna get sued jack for defamation for not pronouncing this form they need to work on the branding of this type of asbestos because i don't even know how to pronounce it figure it out yeah yeah you'll meet christ in a while asbestos but they say that particular type that hasn't been banned is linked to the deaths of tens of thousands of americans over here okay so still fuck wow i what is i i guess like I'm curious what those deaths are classified as language-wise. Because I want to believe if the cause of death was listed as asbestos poisoning, we would be hearing more about it. But I don't know if there's a get-aroundable, more ordinary-sounding cause of death.

Because you can't classify asbestos as natural causes. Right. I think it's one of those things where it's like, well, you could have gotten lung cancer from any one of these many things. But, you know, we all kind of have our suspicions. And then like scientists are like, yeah, no, this is probably the number of people that are being killed by this on a regular basis based on like the scientific evidence that we have right yeah oh interesting this so this is this was truly it's like the articles treat it like it's some kind of like mythical stuff it's like epa bans the last form of asbestos like it's like the boss level one that

they're like we couldn't get off of this one but apparently it's used in a lot of uh friction like sort of heavy materials like brake blocks and other gaskets brake linings well fortunately i don't use those so yeah you don't use famously don't use we don't use brakes we just let the car coast to quitters oh they're for quitters yeah the epa proposed a two-year phase out originally but that's been changed, giving companies up to 12 years to phase out this poisonous material following extensive lobbying by chemical manufacturers. Yeah. Wag his finger and Joe Biden's face. And that's absurd. So that I mean, that is to the tune of thousands and thousands of lives. Yeah. Okay. On a daily basis being like lives are being, you know, negotiated. Like, it's truly what I mean, it reminds me of the story that I bring up a lot on the show, but I, like, I can't get over it where, you know, Johnson and Johnson and like makers and producers of talcum powder, like new in the sixties and seventies that they were causing cancer.

They created this lobbying group to basically make sure that they didn't have, didn't have any regulations on it and they could continue selling it even though they knew it was carcinogenic. The head of that lobbying group was paid like $4 million a year at that time, which was like... Hey, that's some guy's dad, Jack. That's some guy's dad. Relax.

And that guy used that money to send his kids to the best schools that money could buy. And his son is Brett Kavanaugh. No! Wow, twist. So, like, it's, yeah, the bad guys won, essentially. And they keep winning, you know? That's, like, it's, I feel like that is the true American tale. Yeah.

Rock Fievel. This is the real American tale the one that like tells you how things actually work guy like lobbies the government to allow corporation to continue giving people cancer and uses his winnings to get his son on the supreme court to yeah to create one of the fucking monster spawns yeah that we right And those are the same type of people who'd be like, God is so good to us. Yeah. You're like,

no, you fucking freak. It's the, it's the system we live under and white supremacy that you're benefiting from. That's who's good to you. Oh, we're just so blessed. We're so blessed.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. all right we we've got big news kate middleton has now been spotted and spotted i'm gonna put spotted in quotes in a video of her and william leaving a grocery store kate filled i so some people are watching as we watch this video in question just so we can all... Sure. Yeah. I feel like... I don't know. I think I clicked on one thing and now my algorithm's fucked.

Here, we'll bring it up on Miles' computer so you don't have to further... Wait, why aren't they showing us the gosh darn video clip? It has a little play button here. So here, we'll bring it up on Miles' computer so you don't have to further. Wait, why aren't they showing us the gosh darn video clip? It has a little play button here. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Out and about. I was getting all these targeted posts for like, I use AI to clean up this image, mistake number one.

And then, and it's not her. It's not her. It's absolutely not her, mate. It couldn't be her. Are you kidding me? It's not her. It's not her. It's absolutely not her, mate. It couldn't be her. Are you kidding me? It's Harry Kane. It's Harry Kane, massive, mate. The thing with stories like this are,

even if there is even a shred of truth to the conspiracy theories, which with the Roro family, they could be, everyone's being so annoying that you're just like, I don't know. Call me back when they figure it out. That is truly like, I just want to watch the documentary on this in 15 years. They're walking. They're walking.

You can't really see what's happening. Will's is wearing a hat. She is wearing athleisure. She's smiling big. Dude, there's so many. This really is like the Zapruder film, like back and to the left. Yeah.

You just have like five seconds between a car and like them getting to their car. Yes, this is a Zapruder film for even more annoying people. Yeah. For the worst kind. Anyways, you guys just received an email, a 45-page PDF that I put together just kind of laying out where, you know, okay, so where is this person shooting from? They're shooting down.

So, like, from an angular perspective, like, that doesn't really make sense. And then if you see the 3D read out of bone structure, it makes it clear that's not Kate. That is JFK Jr. You added this parenthetical at the very top of this PDF file that says

read in the voice of Gilbert Gottfried. It's important to me. No? Okay, sure. I guess that gives it a little bit more gravitas. The voice with the most gravitas. Uh-huh. The voice with the most gravitas. There's a lot of long descriptions about how this woman is beautiful, but not the kind of beautiful that Kate Middleton is. And then there's a couple pages on what you mean by that.

And I just don't know that it's necessary. With a lot of geometric lines, like you're trying to break down some... It's getting a little chronological. I don't feel comfortable with it. No, I'm just saying you can tell this woman is Welsh and the skull shape. And obviously, we know that Kate's ancestry... Don't get me started.

Look, that's another PDF I'm sending out. Seriously, don't get me started because I will be canceled by the end of this episode. It's just like she doesn't even know she's beautiful, you know? And that's what makes her beautiful. That's the hottest, dude. That's the hottest, bro. When they don't even know.

When they don't even know. Yeah, dog. Because then you can tell them and then they know. But maybe they won't believe it. Right. Like they don't believe it and then they're like, you're a fucking liar. Jack, I just got to the page that said, I wish I could take Kate Middleton's glasses off so she could see how beautiful she is and say wow there you are she doesn't even wear glasses yeah that is an important part of it is that i take her glasses off and say there you are like bradley cooper did to lady gaga when she took off her

makeup which means you would have to like put them on also yeah yeah because she doesn't wear glasses but it's just an important kind of dramatic moment in yeah so a lot of this is just kind of fan fiction of like me finding k middleton glad you admitted it yeah putting glasses on her when i first find her the amount of detail is like that ai willy wonka script from the glasgow installation it is mostly written by ai so you'll notice a lot of misspelling yeah it says kate's eyes light up with a sense of hope that only a newlywed could imagine i don't even okay i i don't know what to make of any of this i just know that it is absolutely like demolished an already bleak news feed um yeah because it's it's it's only like there's nothing fun we're always saying like honestly there's so much non-information out there that

i'm i'll believe whatever like if whatever if it came out and be like no it was a body double and i'm like yeah all right i guess sure that well i also believe that they would use a body double to cover up the fact that she possibly got like a facelift you know like there's all of these sure i don't know like i yeah i don't know i don't know the analysis of like where her eyes are do this one picture where someone just scribbled with their finger on their iphone be like look at this straight line from her eye like where her eyes are in relation to William's body at completely different perspectives

and be like, there it is. That's the nail. I didn't have my pen. I was just using my finger on my iPhone. I guess it's not perfect. Miles didn't use your name. We were trying to help you out. I do feel like

internet detectives, it's always just they're within six posts of going full phrenology and like and what and and be like well if you look at the shape of the skull and you're like now let's not do that like they're right i don't know uh but also you know of course the of course the royal family is doing something fucking awful like right yeah but it's like we don't want to yeah we don't want to say the awful thing like people people's brains are rejecting like in a hundred years people will look back and be like oh the royal family was doing like all these awful things and like had stolen all this money and we're still collecting taxpayer money and you know but now like our brain doesn't acknowledge those things so we have to like

create this new alternate direction to like funnel our outrage about all about the fact that our corporations are poisoning us every day we have to be like there's somebody's body yeah we need something that fits a little bit better. Yeah, at very least. Yeah, it's like a clear demonstration that there is just like sub-zero trust in anything. I mean, the fact that they were like sort of blacklisted by credible news sources is very telling as like a reliable source. But I feel like the truth has to be somewhere in the middle here. Yeah.

People also noticed the video has Christmas decorations visible. So obviously it was taken months ago, despite TMZ sharing the video metadata, indicating other words. And then a person just went to the store and was like, yeah, I guess they still have those fucking decorations on. God damn it. God damn it. Damn it. Kate Middleton's alive, probably guess they still have those fucking decorations. God damn it. God damn it. Damn it. Kate Middleton's alive, probably.

We were hoping she was dead. Like, what eggs are your basket? What basket are your eggs in? I do feel like we get like our best Internet conspiracies and like random things to fixate on when things are really not going well in the world, when things are really bad, because you're just like, I just need something to fixate on that's a little narrower than the scope of doomed Earth. Yeah. Human history.

Yeah. Yeah. It's like, well, look, yeah, sure, the corporations have pulled a fast one on all of us, but the monarchy with this Photoshop? I don't fucking think so. I'm sitting at home breathing in my asbestos zooming in well i'm taking a puff off my asbestos inhaler yeah as you can see her eyes are

too close together to be as beautiful as kate is really that's where it's again we get for her We get the spacing of her. No, no, no, no, no. I believe she may be of sub-Saharan. Just stop. Just fucking stop, please, right now. They can't help themselves. All right. Well, Jamie Loftus, what a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist, as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

Find me anywhere you like. Start listening to the new podcast 15 Minutes. That's going to be starting in May. Keep listening to the Bechtelcast if you live in the UK or Dublin. We're going on a short European tour

at the end of May into the beginning of June. Check that out. Great opportunity to do some undercover work on the Kate Middleton mystery. I am being brought by an agency that may or may not have killed MLK. So, not to brag, but so I did a thing. I worked for the FBI.

First they tried Obama. He wasn't able to get to the bottom of it yesterday. I don't know. People saw that he showed up. Oh, so I turned fed. Oh, now we're all, stop yelling at women. Stop yelling at women, goddamn. Anyways, I always think of them like, Julia Child was in the CIA.

Sometimes that just reoccurs to me. And you're just like, she met her husband in the CIA. Wanda Sykes worked for the NSA. Come on, everyone has their origin story. We all make mistakes, is the point. We all got to make a living working for the CIA. Anyways, yeah, I'll be touring for the CIA in May and June

by Raw Dog. If you haven't read it, that's all. So good. And then Raytheon is co-sponsoring the tour, right? They are. Huge gig. Unofficial. They have Raytheon Funko Pops that we're going to be selling after

the show. Made purely out of asbestos. Yeah. Take a whiff. We will be selling them in international waters. Yeah, if you paddle out after the show. Just don't get them wet.

Don't get them wet. Oh my God. Do not. It will actually kill most of the marine life in and around Europe. Is there a work of media, Jamie, that you've been enjoying? I've got a tweet. I've got a tweet here. I want to shout out the Zoe Kazan tweet from yesterday, contextually coming on the heels of the executive published letter essentially denying any wrongdoing

or murder in gaza uh zoe kazan said kind of shocked that anyone who saw zone of interest could be shocked by what glazer said at the oscars it's a good thread uh sort of one of the few prominent voices in hollywood that has uh kind of called out this backlash for the crock of shit that it is. So, you know, we can watch Ruby Sparks in peace. Is. But no, it's a really good thread because I was

very frustrated that sort of disavowal of Michael Glazer's speech. So that's the tweet I've been enjoying. Amazing. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me on the at-based platforms at

Miles of Grey. Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack on Mad Boosties. And, you know, find me on 420 Day Fiancé as well. A tweet I like from past guest Amy Miller, at Amy Miller tweeted, spending $100 on groceries. This inflation is out of control.

Spending $100 on dinner in LA. Wow, this was actually really cheap for two people. It's so wild to have people that start thinking. Oh, my God. It's like so cheap. It's like $100 for two people. Fuck. Out of here.

A tweet I've been enjoying. Johnke drake gatsby tweeted me but what about the time i saw eight huge claw marks in the sand jesus oh my god i saw that too i have no idea what that was i was so fucking scared you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? Oh, man. Well, we've been talking a lot about this track at least a remix of this track called sprinter by central c and dave but there's a remix of it that i like playing because it's more like a little bit housey uh dance music version of it it's sprinter but the tj remix tjay uh remix it's only on soundcloud because you know it's an unauthorized remix. But, hey, it'll at least have you saying,

you just put 9 Gallon to Sprint Off. And that's all we need to be saying. So, anyway, TJ Sprinter Remix. Here we go. Here we go. All right, we will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Zeke is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app,

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