The Daily Zeitgeist - The Billionaire Conspiracy Behind Your News, Al Franken Officially A Creep 11.20.17

Episode Date: November 21, 2017

In episode 32, Jack & Miles are joined by writer Liana Maeby to discuss #MENGHAZI - Al Franken, Jeffrey Tambor, Lena Dunham's EP Murray Miller, then a dive in to Charles Manson, Koch brothers history, & Katy Perry being banned from China, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Fantasy football fans, the NFL season is here and now is the time to do your homework. The best way to do that homework is to listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Come hang out with me, Marcus Grant, as well as my pal Michael F. Florio, as we give you all the insight you need to set the best lineups each week. For a smart, fun, and entertaining path to league domination, the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast is the show for you. Subscribe now and listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast on the show for you. Subscribe now and listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. for people like Matt Bomer, Emma Roberts, and Colin Jost. Did you say a Caesar salad with lobster? Yeah. Whoa. Our second season is airing right now, so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, fam. I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the podcast from Hello Sunshine that's guaranteed to light up your day. Check out our recent episode with dancer, actress, and host of Dancing with the Stars, Julianne Hough, revealing the healing journey behind her new novel, Everything We Never Knew.

I am showing up for my younger self, and it is becoming a ripple effect energetically in my life. And that's why I feel so safe now. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil.

I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season seven, episode one of Das Daily Zeitgeist. For November 20th, 2017, my name is Jack O'Brien,

aka Young Jackfruit, and I am joined by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Hey, everybody. I hope you had a great weekend. I was just, you know, out in Amish, smoking big old doinks. Smoking big old doinks out in Amish. It's good to be back. Good to be back. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious novelist and writer, Liana Mabey.

Hello. Hello. How are you? I'm doing well. How are you? How are you? I'm good. So let's get right to it.

What is something that you have searched in the not-too-distant past that is revealing about who you are as a human being for our listeners? Well, it's not so much what I searched but how far I took it. I was, like, writing something in the new book I'm working on, and I needed to, like, write something about fertility symbols. And I was like, I don't know what fertility symbols are. Like, what is a fertility symbol other than, like, the moon maybe? So I Googled fertility symbol, and I followed it down a really long rabbit hole. I ended up on the Etsy page for fertility symbols. One of the Etsy pages, there's like a thousand different offerings.

And I got to, for purchase, a set of five penis-shaped beads made out of buffalo bone that you carry around with you if you want to get pregnant. Can anyone guess what the Etsy store that made this is? No. Because, like, maybe think about a pun. It's Bone Hugs and Harmony. Oh. Yeah, I was about to say that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was about to. Yeah, me too. I was going to say that too. I did mean to compliment you on your necklace. Meet me at the crossroads. Very nice. Yeah, me too. I was going to say that too. Meet me at the crossroads with your buffalo dick. I did mean to compliment you on your necklace. Meet me at the crossroads. Very nice. Yeah, no, no.

Meet me at the crossroads so you won't be infertile. So I'm sorry. I'm a little bit ignorant to fertility symbols. I mean, like, it was a hard Google search. Is it just like, is the idea that people carry these symbols to just, like, this will somehow enhance their power of fertility i think so and i think there are like places you can go on like pilgrimages um but i just kind of wanted like i was like oh like what is something i can say like this will sound like a something that's

fertility related other than like i was like a like a sprig right right the heart was originally a fertility symbol the heart the human heart the no no the heart shape like the heart because you'll notice yeah it's very vaginal and interesting yeah it looks nothing like our The heart? The human heart? Well, I think – so the way I heard it is that there used to be a seed that was used as a – either an aphrodisiac or birth control in ancient Rome, and it was shaped like a heart. And so that's how it became known, like associated with sex. And then from sex to love is not that far. Wow. Is what I vaguely remember having read at some point. I was so bad at drawing hearts as a kid.

It was weird because it's seemingly the most simple shape to do, and it took me so long to figure it out. Anyway. But now you've gotten so good at it. I know. You have been doing hearts all day. Exactly. I'm really good at doing a Stussy S, though.

What's something, Liana, that you think is overrated? Football. Don't get it. I'm never going to get it. But I've actively tried. I've tried to care and to pay attention. I don't. It's not.

Why are you putting in all this effort? You just want to understand? Well, I think it's like I want to be in a position where if football is the thing that is what is happening that day or where I happen to be, i want to not be miserable uh it's very self-serving right i was like maybe i want to understand it and i also don't want to be like i want to have i want to have like reasons why i don't like it or something i don't know yeah not just like i don't get it but you want to be like i don't like it for these reasons i want to be like i have tried to get it and i still don't like it therefore it is objectively boring do you have reasons why you don't like it now? Do you know enough to not like it?

Or you're still kind of like, dude, I don't even get it and I still don't like it. All the plays are so short. Yeah. That is the thing that jumps out. When I was a kid and I first started watching football because I was a basketball and baseball fan for the most part. And then, yeah, once you start watching football, it's like, why? There's two seconds. And then it's like a minute-long football, it's like, why? Like, there's two seconds. And then it's like a minute long break.

Yeah. And the plays are so short. And it's kind of like, I don't know. I don't. It's just like quick bursts of violence. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a lot of commercials.

And I feel like the helmets make it so you can't really identify with the characters. So I think that's also a big problem with the league and like why it's going down in popularity while the NBA is going up is because – You know their faces. Yeah, you know their faces, so you can have these stars whose entire personality is out there. Yeah, and you have a human connection, like a big dude with a helmet. It's not like the next step of the NFL is like, well, why don't we get rid of the helmet? Is that going to affect anything?

That has been actually suggested because – Oh, they'll be more careful with themselves? Well, they'd be, yeah. But I think they'd be more careful because they'd realize after three people died horrible deaths on the field. Yeah. It's not a good suggestion. It is a suggestion that's been raised. Or maybe just print their face on the helmet. That's an excellent idea.

At the very least, you're like, man, because they all just look like gigantic motherfuckers. Like, oh, look at his. He has a nice disposition on his helmet. Yeah. Rather than like some, you know, vector art of a buffalo. Or even like emojis on the helmets. Right. Like how you're feeling.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to write all these down. We have some notes, NFL. Miles is actually very close to Roger Goodell. I am very close. He's my godfather. Just want to get to him. What's something you think is underrated?

Have either of you fellows done a jigsaw puzzle lately? No. No. I believe. There is something so soothing to the adult anxious mind about doing a jigsaw puzzle. Really? I don't know. Six months ago, I got really into jigsaw puzzles, and I've done like 15 in that time.

Are you good at them? I don't think it's about that. Is there thing as being good i don't think so i i just remember being bad at them when i was a kid it just took me a long time everything's just forcing each piece like it doesn't work like that jack um it doesn't look like the pyramid yeah i recommend it to everyone to just try it get a jigsaw puzzle i I will give that a shot. Order one on Amazon with an image you like. Do you do it while doing something else? I listen to podcasts usually, yeah. What's a good time to finish a puzzle?

Aren't there thousands of pieces, most of these things? Yeah. Generally, a thousand. Whoa, that's overwhelming. That's my speed. What was the last one you made of? Well, I'm currently working on one. It's amazing. It's my speed. Yeah. What was the last one you made of? Well, I'm currently working on one. It's amazing.

It's wood. It's a wood cut. It's like a ship thing, and there are whimsy pieces. So some of the pieces are shaped like the Statue of Liberty or a dog, and it's great. Well, that's fun. Yeah. Wait, but it's made of wood? Uh-huh.

The Jigsaw puzzle? Yeah, it's really fancy. The Jigsaw puzzle. Jigsaw. Yo, this is blowing my mind. I just know the regular puzzles that you know like are like on really you know recycled cardstock paper right yeah yeah that's all i got so you're talking about next level well this is my first time branching out to the woodcut puzzle

i wouldn't recommend starting there right okay so for someone like me who's yeah just get like the cardboard you're not ready puzzle deficient yeah not only are you not ready but like you don't know if you like it yet. Right. And that costs X for an army, I'm sure. And you don't need to. How much are we talking, just to get into the game? I'd imagine, this would be my guess, is that jigsaw puzzles, the cardboard kind are like $8.99?

Yeah. Roughly. Very. You can get them for that. See, that's not expensive enough for me. That's not baller enough. But then the wooden one's $35? I don't know.

It was a gift. Oh, okay. All right. Well, look, if anybody has suggestions for a jigsaw puzzle, hit me up. Okay. Well, I will check that out. Because I do, like, there are certain things that, like, when I'm listening to a podcast or a book and, like, you know, my hands need something to do or my eyes need something

to do, I usually do the, like, Wordle or whatever, the word search game on my phone. But like this allows you to actually fully concentrate on a podcast. But doesn't that, if you're doing a word thing and listening, doesn't that like kind of split your attention? No, because the word thing is pretty like mindless. Jack's really good at words. I struggle with those too. Remember, y'all caught me crying doing one because I was so frustrated.

Yeah, I mean you're not a reader. That's alright. I tried though. I tried. You're too busy learning hearts. You never got the letters. Exactly. And now that my speech to text I don't have to learn how to write. It really is true actually. Not that I'm illiterate.

We're probably two years away from it being like good enough that you can just dictate stuff. Although that would be really hard in class because it would just be all kids speaking out loud at their phones or computers. All right. Let's get into format. We're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there changing the world, whether we're looking or not. We talk about politics and the president and news, but we also talk about movies and supermarket tabloids because those affect the ideas people have up in their minds. And yeah, so let's get into it. We're trying to take the temperature of what's affecting the national shared consciousness. And we start out by asking our

guests if they have any thing that you think that the sort of conventional wisdom has wrong about the world. I mean, I feel like I'm upset that my precious pit bull is still being seen as like the bad dog in TV and movies. I feel like generally people kind of are like, oh, no, we know that pit bulls are – there's no bad dogs. There are only bad people. Is that the expression? Yes. Cool. Yeah. pit bulls are there's no bad dogs they're only bad people um is that the expression yes cool yeah but i feel like it's such a go-to like cliche that it's like if you're gonna have a bad dog in a tv show you make it a pit bull and i feel like that is some bullshit in my mind chihuahuas are the worst dogs chihuahuas are way more aggressive they're just like naturally aggressive

shitty dogs yeah and what's i i guess you know why because like for the longest time i feel like in the 90s like every court show like judge jud Judy in the People's Court was always like, and this man's pit bull attacked me or whatever. And it was always like the owner who like lived like in a house that didn't have a fenced in yard. And like they just fed their dog like cans of food. Like, you know, I mean, it's just yeah. People weren't nurturing the pets. Yeah. Maybe they do get it.

I don't know. They used to be used as like like, they were, like, baby guard dogs. Like, you would, like, leave your pit bull to, like, guard the baby when you went and left your baby alone. Wait, what? They're the sweetest dogs. No, they're, like, naturally, like, the most loving, sweetest, like, protective dogs. I was just picturing a babysitting service where it's like, yeah, here.

You just have a pit bull. Yeah. How old is he? 18? Great. So we're going to leave him with these eight pit bulls over here. And trust me, they will not let any funny business go down. One chihuahua to make things interesting.

Right, right, right. Good to know. They're sweet. And also, yeah, I think most people, most of my friends, even who have rescued pit bulls, they've, for the most part, rehabilitated them or just shown them enough affection that they seem pretty normal. I have a pit bull mix that I got when he was four months old. He was a stray on the street, but he was never trained to be bad, and he was the sweetest

little dude in the world. That's awesome. See? Kisses babies like a politician. Wow. But do people- He's also a politician. Do people react to your pit bull?

Or like, is that a pit bull? Because that's one thing. He's a mix. So he's like a basset hound mix. So he's just like little and funny looking and adorable. So kind of, not really. But- Yeah. Yeah. But, you know. So kind of, not really. But yeah. Yeah.

But you know. Okay. Well, that's good to know. My dog has no reason to be anything but sweet and he's just a complete mess. Really? Yeah. Well, look at the owner. He's got like anxiety and-

What kind of dog is it? No. It's a Cavalier King Charles. I'm sorry. It's not even a rescue. Cavalier King, was that, I'm sorry, Cavalier King, I think it's King LeBron is what you mean? Cavalier King Charles. They're like the brown, white.

The Spaniels. Yeah, they're little Spaniels there. So usually when executed correctly, we've had three of them actually. Executed correctly? When executed correctly. What does that mean? Like they're beheading? They are like these very regal looking like perfect dogs.

We had one that was like, just like seemed to float as it like trotted along. Like it was just like this beautiful regal looking like perfect dogs we had one that was like just like seemed to float as it like trotted along like it was just like this beautiful regal thing right and that was my wife's dog and then i got one and he like has like a leg that doesn't really bend right and he like can't run correctly so you got him at the outlet yeah he has an eye that like goes off in the wrong direction and uh his response to being in the same room with a dog is to roll over on his back and play dead like for the whole time he's just the most passive youtube star yeah he's pretty great if there's another dog he's just like nah i'm not fucking with this and just pretends to be dead yeah and it doesn't matter

how small the dog is he He's just a mess. Shout out to your dog. Yeah. He's also got sinus problems. That's why I don't bring him into work. He makes really loud noises. Dude, this sounds like a really anxious human being. He sounds like my grandfather.

Yeah. He's got breathing problems. Pretending to be dead. Doesn't like other people, really. Right. Okay, well. That's him loves loves getting his belly rubbed though uh all right let's get into the stories of the week

uh we have more updates on men gazi um i thought you were gonna come through with some like effects or something maybe how about this men there we go uh Which is what we're calling a sex creme watch these days. So, yeah, just more people who we would have liked to continue to believe were OK people. Turns out not great. Amid allegations that he sexually harassed people on that set. And Al Franken, another victim, stepped out when we talked about it last week. We were like, yeah, let's just wait and see if this is the only one. And sure enough, he was posing for a photograph with a woman while her husband was taking the picture. And he grabbed her ass for three to four seconds. At the state fair. At the state fair. At the state fair.

And he was like, yeah, I'm sorry that she didn't enjoy our encounter or something like that. It was like a really... Yeah, like I didn't realize she wasn't cool with that. Right. Oh, wait, women don't like that? Oh, wow. Okay. He's probably like, let me think back now. I may have a few other things I may have to cop to. Yeah, so Al Franken.

I think copping was the whole problem. Right. Yeah. Time to move aside. Right. But I guess what would be interesting is, are we going to actually be at a point where Al Franken gets ousted, Roy Moore gets in, and then it takes a long time for him to get removed. Right. Well, that's the that is one thing that an issue that has been raised is that if the Republicans are just like, you know, take advantage of the fact that Democrats actually object to this sort of thing. Right. Then it could become a real issue. Absurd.

Right. Wow. Just hold it. Hold the Democrats to a higher standard. And then Congress is nothing uh conservative pedophiles soon enough yum um russell simmons and brett ratner which well the second i heard those two were hanging out together i was like i don't know keep keep all women away from them but apparently they were hanging out together back in 91 91 and they brought a 17 year old over to uh brett ratner's house or russell simmons's

place and they were watching a uh music video and then uh according to a woman like basically forced her to have sex with uh russell simmons and uh know, was like badgered into doing various things. And at one point she looked to Brett Ratner for help. That's a low point. Yeah, that's not who you want to be looking to for help in a situation like that. Unless it's like to do a plate full of cocaine. Right. That's the only time you look at him for help.

And yeah, I don't know. of cocaine right that's the only time you look at him for help um and yeah i don't know just having been uh around people who've been around russell simmons this wasn't like the most surprising thing that uh i'd ever heard but uh yeah his defense was he was like so remember this is a 17 year old and he's like uh you guys i'm pretty sure that was consensual. I remember it. It was consensual. And he was also talking about how it went against every fiber of his being and using his weird yoga language and shit. So I don't know.

Yeah, yoga does not exempt you from being a terrible person it does not one might argue yeah it's consensual my man so then do we just want to talk about this as being statutory rape right or wow anyway but it's it's frustrating because it's like the thing is like i feel like there is a way back from this kind of stuff. And it's like, you have to, you have to accept it and admit it in a real way. And it's like, you can, you, I feel like we're not trying to say culturally that like,

you can't, you know, work your way back from this. And, and from someone like Al Franken, like he needs to just admit like, yeah, I did this shitty thing.

I recognize now that it's shitty. Like I'm going to get better. And he has at least his, uh, apologies have actually been actual apologies and not sort of like i'm sorry that they felt this way didn't he deny the state fair thing though uh he was like i i i like take photos with thousands of people right maybe that one i think his his response to this has been a little more like oh so you're kind of a shitty person type thing. Right. Yeah. So the girls set apparently one of the EPs there.

What's his name? Murray Miller. Murray Miller, one of the executive producers of Girls, was accused by one of the actresses of attempting to sexually assault her. to sexually assault her. And Lena Dunham came out and kind of said that, yeah, we're glad this is great and all that women are getting a voice. But this is one of those cases where it can't possibly be true because we know this guy and he's just such a good bro. And then she, I think yesterday, came out and was like, so remember that thing that I said that was wrong? I apologize. She also tweeted at one point, just so you know, my politics are that I like to lift up the people who lift me up.

And somebody rightly pointed out, that's just self-interest. That's not politics. That's just being self-interested. That's like cronyism. Lenny letter because she is just sort of saying that there's this calls her basically like just like documented history of like well-known racism or what she calls hipster racism. And for her, again, the woman who is alleging that she was assaulted or attempt, he attempted to solve her Aurora Perrineau. It's Harold Perrineau from Lost's daughter. Perrineau. It's Harold Perrineau from Lost's Daughter. So she's a woman of color and it doesn't look good when of all the people, when you're trying to discredit people, you're discrediting the claims of women of color. And it's weird too, because Lupita Nyong'o, of all the women who made accusations against Harvey Weinstein, that was like the one woman he came out to publicly deny and discredit. So it just doesn't fit in. It's a bad look and you

never want to, you can't have it both ways and it's again yeah she did walk it back and saying that you know she again believes this and it wasn't the right time for her to make a statement like that to support this man but yeah it doesn't look like you know uh things are all well in lena dunham's camp either in terms of like her relationship with women of color and it's also as interesting when you look at it and you're like these like the two women that you would think would be like the biggest allies in this situation, like Lena Dunham and Jill Soloway both kind of, you know, did nothing with each other. And it's like you see how like deeply just like entrenched all this shit is and how much like it really is like, oh, it's there's a lot of money at stake, you know, and this is a business. Right. And even like the biggest allies kind of have to have to fall in line with that yeah i

think i think some of the responses i've heard are like people being like oh no like is is this going to be just how it is like is it all men but i've also heard people be like i don't know yeah if we do assume that there is this thick line this this is just like people who are bad human beings like getting knocked off to hopefully make room for people who are good human beings maybe even women holy shit could you imagine um yeah so that's where we're at like it's interesting to have conversations with people now where like everyone just begins to sort of take stock and be like did i do anything that like could remotely be seen that way first of all i'm not like the kind of person who would ever try and exert my will on like anything i'm just too passive at times and it's just weird i like i know talking

to some people who can be like oh man like there's stuff i i'm sure now i did that or back then i did that probably wouldn't be good now and then there are other people who kind of are just completely their minds are blown that well and it's interesting because i this is actually the thing that worries me sort of in terms of like women and like women in hollywood and i think this idea you know that everyone is so frightened about being around women and it's like this whole thing of like you, can we have women in the writer's room? Because what if we say a dirty joke? And then it's like, no, like if you hire a female comedy writer, she understands.

And it's like, but this fear, like it makes me worried that men are going to just continue to shy away from working with women. And it's like, that's the, that's kind of the downside that I see. But I also feel like the line is so much thicker than we think it is. It's like if you've done something wrong, you'll pretty much know it. Yeah, exactly. People who are sitting there being like, I don't know. Have I?

And it's like, no. Actually, most of these cases are cut and dry sexual assault. Right, right, right. If you've committed that, you know it. And if you maybe made a dirty joke once, it's probably fine. Yeah, yeah. committed that you know it and if you you know maybe made a dirty joke once it's probably fine yeah yeah well and again i think it's it's to think of like you know men being afraid to work with women that's for them to even say like oh let me put that on working around women as an issue rather than like okay i can work around a woman because i'm not a fucking sex crap and if it means

that maybe like you don't make a dirty joke i feel like that's maybe the right sacrifice to make for getting an entire gender allowed well right and in a way it's also it's a way to check your privilege as a male too to be like oh like let me think of things i cannot say or will actively try to not say because and it's like oh maybe don't put that in your show then yeah you know it's offending the female comedy writer in the room yeah i mean the franken thing especially made me think about just that like how difficult it is to come forward when something like this has happened to you because this woman had her ass grabbed by like this famous politician and like didn't tell anyone until somebody else like yeah kind of gave her the courage to actually be like okay yeah he is like a shitty dude who

like does weird stuff. And she was saying like right after she told her husband straight away, she's like, oh, he totally grabbed my ass. Yeah. And that's also interesting too. Like you think as a husband, you'd be like, I'm gonna have to roll this dude up or something, you know what I mean? Or say something. But even then, I'm sure as a man, you're like, I don't want to be this guy who's like making a scene, accusing this like senator of. Right. Right.

Yeah, it's tough. But I agree. The thickness of the line seems to be pretty reassuring, I guess. Yeah. Pretty thick. It seems like every time it seems like on the surface, based on the headline, like it might be a thing that could go either way. You read on. Exactly. You're always like, yes. And then people like don might be a thing that could go either way. You read on. Exactly.

You're always like, yes. And then people like don't read past the headlines. No, no, no. Like the George Takei thing like wasn't like, no, he drugged a dude and then pulled his pants down. And it's like, right. You know, I think once you actually read it, it's like, why aren't the headlines saying these things, too? Right. Yeah.

You probably get more clicks. The George Takei thing is actually interesting because you can kind of see the moment in a Howard Stern interview where he realizes that he's like one of these people. Right. Right. Right. He's like, oh, yeah, that's a much better. I am a sex creme. And finally, before we go to break, we just want to talk about the fact that yesterday we saw that Charles Manson's name was trending and we assumed the worst that he also was one of these sexual assaulters. But no, he's just gone on. He's passed on from this life. Murderer. Yeah.

Why are people so obsessed with charles bates i know we were talking about this earlier because as a kid it seemed like something like white kids were more into like charles manson because to me just seeing like a guy with a swastika between his eyes was terrifying yeah i'm like i'm good like so for me i like i listen i am not condoning the actions of Charles Manson. I don't think he was a good dude, but I am fascinated by him as like a cultural figure. And I also just – as like – as a figure of like unintentional comedy where it's like really what happened with Charles Manson was the biggest overcorrection of all time. Like basically he sent some people out. They accidentally killed some people and he's like, guess we got to start a race war so they don't suspect us let's go murder sharon tate and i was like oh you just overcorrected

oh really yeah yeah and he went all in on it and it's kind of like like it was really to deflect like so he was trying to imply that it was like black people trying to start a race war i didn't realize that yeah um and yeah there's all this like they wrote like pig on the wall to be like fuck the cops and like all of this stuff that was like basically just ended up committing

way more murders to try and like deflect attention from a murder so it's like another Coen Brothers-esque yeah yeah

it's wacky it's just like a wacky yeah it's hijinks yeah and that to me oh I like okay now I'm on board but he went all the way in

is the thing like he's still like he decided he was this like jesus figure basically like during this process and he's still like he didn't think he was gonna he was supposed to not die but i feel like most people just not even knowing that are still like very interested i guess maybe it's just like people's morbid fascination with like like with cults and and murder yeah that era of los angeles too is right a lot of and it was like the hippie like when the hippie thing bled over into oh this could be this weird like psychological sort of yeah cult thing do you guys remember the story a couple years ago of

charles manson's like very beautiful wife no or fiance so he was like engaged to this like really hot like woman or like mid-20s and um he found out – she gave an interview and she was like, well, I'm only marrying Charles Manson because when he dies, I want to get his corpse and display it. Which, first of all, you don't get your husband's corpse. Right. That's not the rules. Excuse me. That's my corpse? Yeah.

I don't think that's how it works. But Manson broke off their engagement because he's like no if you're a true believer you would know that i'm immortal and i'm not going to die wait it's not even that he's like you're being opportunistic he's like you must not really be a believer first of all you don't believe that i'm immortal okay well this is off uh-huh wow yeah i stick to your guns all of that. But that is interesting because the whole pig thing just seemed like a weird, like, sort of pseudo-religious, like, sacrifice thing. Or I think I had also heard something about a reference to the Beatles because there's references to pigs on the White Album. And obviously Helter Skelter is from the White Album.

But yeah, I didn't know it was their shitty attempt to be like, this was about cops, man. Like when people make fake Twitter accounts and be like, look what these thugs are doing. Right. We got tweets from them. Yeah. Thug street killer. Wow. That's wild to think but then but then you see stuff like uh

so sophie was saying like on the amas they flashed a graphic during the show that said that charles manson was dead he's a big which is crazy i mean like this dude is a fucking murder i don't know why you need to like interrupt regular programming even if you're not stopping it but just even to alert people i've talked before about how how like Einstein is probably one of the hottest brands in the world. Just he, because he gets credit for like all smart things. Like when people have a quote that they want to miss a tribute online to

make it sound smarter, they always give it to Einstein. I think Charles Manson is like that for evil. He's just like the Charles Manson. Well, like I'm glad he's gone because now we can all pay respect to the true Manson God. That's Shirley Manson from Garbage. Right.

Shout out to you, Shirley. Now you have the Manson throne. You have the title. Run with it and do good with it, Ma. All right. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120.

She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? 120, she's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything?

You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm.

Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play.

A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible.

Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, everyone. I am Lacey Lamar. And I'm Amber Ruffin, a better Lacey Lamar. Boo. Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. You thought you had fun last season? Well, you were right. And you should tune in today for new fun segments like Sister Court and listening to Lacey's steamy DMs.

We've got new and exciting guests like Michael Beach. That's my husband. Daphne Spring. Daniel Thrasher. Peppermint. Morgan J. And more. You gotta watch us.

No, you mean you have to listen to us. I mean, you can still watch us, but you gotta listen. Like, if you're watching us, you have to tell us. Like, if you're out the window, you have to say, hey, I'm watching you outside of the window. Just, you know what? Listen to the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment. Lucha libre is a type of storytelling. It's a dance.

It's tradition. It's tradition. It's culture. This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of Lucha Libre. And I'm your host, Santos Escobar, the emperor of Lucha Libre and a WWE superstar. Santos! Santos! Join me as we learn more about the history behind this spectacular sport from its inception in the United States to how it became a global symbol of Mexican culture. We'll learn more about some of the most iconic heroes in the ring.

This is Lucha Libre Behind the Mask. Listen to Lucha Libre Behind the Mask as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. And we're back. So we wanted to get into the Kochs. You might have read it and pronounced it the Kochs in your head. Like Ed Koch? Right. Former mayor?

That's how it's K-O-C-H. But they are the Koch brothers. They are among the wealthiest human beings on the planet Earth. When you take them together, David and Charles, if they if you combined their wealth, which you might as well, because they basically have all the same, you know, their two headed beasts. Expenses. Yeah. They would be the wealthiest person in the world other than Vladimir Putin. As we've talked about, Vladimir Putin is the richest person in the world. He just spreads his money among his friends and colleagues. So he has a good friend who is a great cellist who also has three billion dollars in the bank because. Yeah, I don't even think Yo-Yo Ma has like three million dollars in the bank. And that's the best cellist in the bank because yeah i don't even think yo-yo ma has like three million dollars in the bank and that's the best cellist in the fucking world but anyway so the coke brothers um there's this great

book uh called dark money uh by jane mayer who is a new yorker reporter uh that so the way it's her reporting on this started out is she was looking at the Tea Party, this like grassroots movement of, you know, 50 year old white rich guys who dressed up as, you know, revolutionary era American soldiers and founding fathers. And they which, by the way, the founding fathers didn't even dress up like founding fathers when they did it. They dressed up as Native Americans for the Tea Party. But that's another thing. So she noticed that wording on the signs in, like, Los Angeles and then in Wichita would be identical. The wording would be the same. And this was supposedly just this naturally occurring grassroots thing.

It's grassroots, baby. It's not Astroroturf right fake ass grassroots so she started looking into it and it seemed like these two brothers the cokes were you know somehow involved and she reached out to their company and their company like denied it in a very convincing way and then she went down to this sort of convention for tea party uh tea part, and it was completely run by the Koch brothers. And apparently they had forgotten to tell people that, like, they weren't supposed to be involved because the people were like, oh, yeah, the Kochs. Yeah, they're great. They fund all of this. And it's wonderful.

And they're like, yeah, they were giving out awards to, like, best tea party blogger some woman who wrote an article called like the coke head in chief about Obama, like claiming he was a coke head. So it was like like a cocaine head, not a coke brother. Yeah, not a great party. They're coke heads. Right. They're different source. But yeah, so I don't know. But, yeah, so I don't know. The Tea Party never totally made sense to me as a grassroots movement just because I don't envision these guys hanging out around the water cooler being like, I don't know, let's all dress up like this.

And that catching fire just seemed to suddenly be a thing. And that's because it was a Koch brother operation. They're really good at staying under the radar. They inherited a lot of their money from their father, who made his money by building oil refineries for Stalin and Hitler. Amazing. It's a resume. And one of his favorite sayings was, the whale gets harpooned after it surfaces to spout or something like that. So basically, like you just stay under the surface to stay out of trouble.

So like they are really good at staying invisible. It wasn't until like Jane Mayer really looked into this that it was that their name became sort of a household name. That their name became sort of a household name. Their father co-founded the John Birch Society, which is this like hyper arch conservative group of white people that is like vaguely racist. in Washington, D.C., celebrating the Kochs were having this conference in Indian Wells, California, where they were all just like panicking because they thought Obama was going to do what people elected him for, like to govern. Yeah. Well, and like start, you know, taking money away from these really wealthy people and taxing them. Oh, God.

Taking away some of their loopholes. No. And legislating to stop global warming. Oh, Jesus. That's kind of their main cause is they want to get rid of the idea that global warming is man-made. They've done a pretty good job. They've been incredibly successful. Like there is not a country other than America where it's even a question.

But in America, there's been a rise in the number of people who think it's not a man-made thing. And that's to a large degree because of the Kochs. In 1980- Some Helter Skelter shit right there. That's some overcorrecting manson shit oh yeah this is just the beginning so in 1980 uh david coke who's like sort of the charles coke is the main ceo billionaire like brains behind the operation they both graduated

from mit david also pretty smart but not really the brains behind the operation. But he ran as VP on the libertarian ticket for president in 1980. And they thought they were going to have this great uprising of libertarians who would all get their message. And instead, they got 1 percent of the vote and got sort of laughed out of the presidential election. And so at that point, they were like, OK, we are going to fuck everything up. Well, we're going to rather than accept that that's just not how Americans thought. They were like, we're going to change how Americans think. So they started funding all these think tanks. They started donating to colleges.

They started donating to colleges. So at this meeting in 2009, which had like all these incredibly wealthy people, it had the Mellon, like Carnegie Mellon is funded by the Carnegies and the Mellons. They're like a banking and Gulf oil dynasty. A bunch of the other like really famous names, the Devos family, which is apparently the heir to Amway in Michigan. And that's Betsy Devos is like a scion of the Devos family. So that like all of these different dots start connecting when you look at the Kochs. And so they had this meeting where they like talked about how they were going to wage war against Obama and all these different ways they were going to fight him. They came up with the idea for this Tea Party uprising.

And in 2010, the year after, they started making this a regular thing. In 2010, at this meeting, Justices Scalia and Thomas both spoke at the meeting. That is the same year that the Supreme Court passed Citizens United, which has been one of the biggest weapons for, like, incredibly wealthy people to influence, you know, American politics. Yeah. And essentially allowing corporations to have like first amendment rights that said like, Hey, yeah, we can treat them like individuals so they can spend unlimited amounts of money in elections and, you know, completely metal in our democratic process. Yeah.

But that's not a big deal. You know what I mean? Right. Cause things have been going pretty well. It's like everyone is at this one meeting where they, all the people who have this really sort of crazy outside of the sort of mainstream like billionaire agenda the actual illuminati right yeah exactly yeah we don't need to make up the illuminati they actually exist they hang out in indian wells and they have supreme court justices hanging out there you know right you know people who can fundamentally

shift the entire discussion and uh direction that our our politics are going in. But that's cool. So like back in 1980, when they first ran, William F. Buckley, who's like the main conservative intellectual of the 20th century, like called their movement, quote, anarcho totalitarianism. He was like, it's insane. It's like he laughed at the ideas that they were putting forward. It was like so obviously lined up with their own self-interest. Right. Essentially, it's just basically like we want no government intervention on like anything having to do with our money or our companies polluting. They're also big on like environmental things and like getting the government not to prevent corporations from,

you know, doing whatever they want with chemicals in the environment. There's some really scary shit happening. Well, yeah, because their companies are like amongst the biggest offenders when it comes to pollution and things like that, which is why they despise the federal government and despise regulation. And just they're like, dude, let us do whatever the fuck we want to do is kind of their mentality. Right. At by any cost. Right.

Their companies are mostly like big, like petrol, chemical and. Refinery's for Hitler. Right. and... Refinery's for Hitler, basically. Right, Refinery's for Hitler and different chemicals that go into the stuff you use, but then they also have recognizable brands like Downey.

Dixie Cups are made by them. Yeah, Angel Soft, Quilted Northern, Lycra, Brawny, Soft and Gentle. Guys, just stop wiping your ass. Right. And you can really show the Koch brothers by taking a dent in their... taking a bite out of their bottom line. So Charles, the older brother, was raised by this nanny who was just a fervid Nazi.

And she openly, like, I love Hitler. And it was during the start of World War II. No, just like with her mouth, like, I love Hitler. Just it was during the start of World War Two. No, just like with her mouth. Like I love Hitler out loud. And then ended up she raised them for five years and then left. Because in 1940, when Hitler invaded France, she said she wanted to go back and like be there for the party. Cool, essentially. So that's who he was raised by. And, you know, they've just they've been caught pocketing millions from Indian reservations. They like just do every just they're just cartoon villains in every way. They're the most arch human beings.

Right. But so our writer, Sam Radman, who we asked to look into this, made a good point because we were like, OK, let's talk about how these guys are cartoon villains. And he was like, yeah, but they're actually just really kind of savvy people with a ton of money. And they looked at what America would allow them to do. And they just did that. So it's almost it's more of an indictment of the system campaign to deny climate change. They, you know, on top of that, we spoke, I think, last week or the week before about them also being behind this movement to trigger a constitutional convention to, like, hopefully really solidify, like, changing the Constitution to, like,

really just make sure the oligarchy is safe as it is and, you know, the government's hands are off it. And, again, like, especially with this tax bill that's coming up too it's important to realize that the coke brothers are huge donors to the gop and the one thing that all gop politicians gather around and unite for are tax cuts and that's usually because of people like the coke brothers or they are very wealthy donors who are essentially like, get my tax cuts done, get my tax cuts done, get my tax cuts done. Yeah. I mean, Democrats like tax cuts for like people who aren't super wealthy already there. Although they also, you know, they get a lot of money from Wall Street, too. And yeah, for their tax cuts. Right.

But there's yeah, these specifically seem to be tax cuts for the extremely wealthy. Like there doesn't seem to be any confusion over what's going on there. Well, and yeah, and most politicians, again, we brought this up last week. There are politicians who are openly just saying like, yeah, we got to get these tax cuts done so my donor dollars don't dry up. Yeah, you can't say that. Yeah, you can't say that. You can these days. Don't admit that this whole thing is a fucking sham.

But again, when you have people this powerful and wealthy who can spend unlimited amounts of money, it's hard to escape their influence. And it's like an Ouroboros of like, you know, you're trying to see what you can get away with. And then you're creating the system that allows you to get away with more. And it just seems like, how are we ever going to get out of the cycle? Yeah. to get away with more. And it just seems like, how are we ever going to get out of the cycle? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I do think that one of the things that makes me optimistic is that they just they were completely invisible for a lot of their whole sort of scheme to change the way Americans think up until people started reporting on them. And now people know about them. But I mean,

the way Jay Mayer describes it is like it's like you see a bunch of, you know, iron filings on a table being moved around. You know, there's like some giant magnet under the table moving it around. So they're the magnet under the table. We just didn't have really a look at it. So hopefully we can kind of do something about, you know, how they are fucking with the way the country works. But I love your optimism because I'm kind of just like, I kind of feel like it's too late. I kind of feel like, you know what? I think it's worth a try. Yeah, I think the more people know.

Right. It's easier than people just kind of like, oh, well, why is all this happening? To know that there are larger forces at work, especially too, they're in the news again because now they're trying to invest in that company that's trying to buy Time Inc. So now they're trying to own a huge chunk of the

media now. And it's already like we're already in bad water because of places like Sinclair Broadcasting that I think they broadcast to something like 73% of our homes. To have people with these very conservative, pro-business, anti-middle-class agendas also controlling the news that people are seeing in their homes. I mean, yo. I guess the Daily Zeitgeist is the only thing you guys can listen to. You know what I mean?

Right. For the truth. But yeah, it's like where do you go then when these are the people who are also at the levers of the information you're receiving? On the plus side, more ads with the brawny guy. Right. Yeah. Not against that. I'm mad jealous of that guy though because he can grow a full beard. But that's neither here or there.

He does have a great beard. Yeah. So they're outwardly libertarian. But when it comes down to it, like they are mostly interested in their own wealth. So, for instance, when there is the big government bailout for Wall Street banks, which is like the least libertarian thing ever, like the libertarian move would be to just let the markets fail because that's what they were doing naturally on their own. Instead, there was this giant multibillion dollar bailout for the banks. They basically once they saw that the market was actually about to crater, they switched their position to being pro bailout because they just didn't want to lose money. Right. But they say, I mean, it is a for like I don't want to be optimistic optimistic in the sense that like, yeah, this is gonna be easy now that we know about it. Like they say that they are like the more people learn about their operation, the more they realize they're actually bigger have more influence than the actual republican party uh it's just we didn't know about them up until this point and i remember for the longest time too they were they were trying to figure out when trump was get the nomination they despised him and they were like no we can't get behind this and there was a lot of a lot of debate even amongst the donors and

a lot of like even politicians were worried because they're like, which way are the cokes going to go on this guy? So they have a pretty substantial hold on things we should say. But I guess that's true. Like even like when you look at Robert Mercer, he ducked out a little bit too when people began to – like his name became quite commonplace in these discussions about like who props up which media people who is investing in certain political agendas. And I guess I don't know. I mean, at this point, if their whole thing was to not be the whale that breaches so you don't get harpooned. I mean, shit. At the very least, we can see like a dorsal fin.

Right. Yes. No, they have totally breached and probably aren't happy about it. So I think generally a good rule of thumb is anything that makes the Koch brothers sweat a little bit is probably good for the country and like the vast majority of the population. We need to divide them and conquer. Unless it's immigration because that's the weird thing. Because they are so pro-business, they don't mind amnesty for immigrants because for them it's like, oh, that means a larger workforce. But even then it has evil. It's not even like, oh, because we believe people should be allowed to enter this country and have a better life.

It's more like, well, if they're going to become a potential worker. We can pay people less. Yeah, yeah. Great. Yeah. And you're talking about how people didn't know which way they were going to go on the Trump thing. They didn't actually break towards Trump. What they did is they moved Trump towards them.

Like Trump has now changed his policies. He brought Mike Pence on as his VP. Mike Pence is completely made. He is like a figment of the Koch brothers imagination. Like he was invented by them. He was just like a AM radio DJ when they found him who had never held down a successful job in his life. He was an AM radio DJ? Yeah.

Or he was a radio DJ, like a talk radio DJ. Mike Pence in the morning? Yeah, Mike Pence in the morning. He can barely – I don't wake you up in the morning. He has no charisma. I know. Well, he kind of learned how to speak and –

Because before he was like, hey, what's up? It's Crazy Mike and the Fart Boys. No, I don't think he was. He wasn't like a drive time morning zoo DJ. I just like it. He was like a Rush Limbaugh type. I listen to him just playing pop songs and then commenting on why they're evil. Right.

Well, he did think Mulan was evil, too. Right. That makes sense. That all makes sense for Mike Pence. But also, yeah, like I said, Betsy DeVos being the head of education, despite just being an incredibly wealthy scion, or I guess her husband is the actual descendant of the DeV throne, but still that that she she was at the Davos throne is in Game of Thrones, right? That's actually yes, Davos house. She was part of their like party for billionaires where they determine how to fuck with Democrats. So that there I do

think that it would be a mistake to think that the Koch brothers eventually were like, yeah, this Trump guy is not so bad. I guess we'll go along with his policies. It was that Trump essentially gravitated towards them because they're more powerful than the Republican Party. All right. So that is all the time we have for the coke brothers but this will almost certainly be an ongoing story it never does it never does all right we'll be right back i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life it's too late for that i have a proposal for you come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session.

24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out?

I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams.

Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. They're just dreams. You know I love to cook, or at least try, especially alongside some of my favorite chefs and foodies like Benny Blanco, Jake Cohen, Lighty Hoyt, Alison Roman, and of course, Ina Garten and Martha Stewart. So I started a free newsletter called Good Taste that comes out every Thursday, and it's serving up recipes that will make your mouth water. Think a candied bacon Bloody Mary, tacos with cabbage slaw, curry cauliflower with almonds and mint, and cherry slab pie with vanilla ice cream to top it all off. I mean, yum. I'm getting hungry. But if you're not sold yet,

we also have kitchen tips like a foolproof way to grill the perfect burger and must-have products like the best cast iron skillet to feel like a chef in your own kitchen. All you need to do is sign up at katiecouric.com slash good taste. That's K-A-T-I-E C-O-U-R-I-C dot com slash good taste. I promise your taste buds will be happy you did. Hello, everyone. I am Lacey Lamar. And I'm Amber Ruffin, a better Lacey Lamar.

Boo. Okay, everybody, we have exciting news to share. We're back with season two of the Amber and Lacey, Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network. You thought you had fun last season? Well, you were right. And you should tune in today for new fun segments like Sister Court and listening to Lacey's steamy DMs. We've got new and exciting guests like Michael Beach. That's my husband. Daphne Spring.

Daniel Thrasher. Peppermint. Morgan J. And more. You gotta watch us. No, you mean you have to listen to us. I mean, you can still watch us, but you gotta listen. Like, if you're watching us, you have to tell us.

Like, if you're out the window, you have to say, hey, I'm watching you outside of the window. Just just you know what? Listen to the Amber and Lacey Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It was December 2019 when the story blew up. In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning.

In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

And we're back. All right. We are kind of over time. So we're just going to go out on a quick story about how China is, it turns out, just as sick of Katy Perry as you are. Not me. No, not you. We're Katy Perry fans. We're Katy Perry fans here on the Daily Zeitgeist.

But China, not so much oh my goodness so like this weekend was the victoria's secret fashion show in china big big thing big big tings going on over there now they were saying uh there are a couple reasons why this show uh got a lot of attention one ggigi Hadid was expected to go on the runway. She's a famous model, correct? Yes, very famous model. I knew that. Yeah, daughter of Yolanda.

But there was a picture of her making kind of slanty Asian eyes with a Buddha cookie. So China was like, sorry, Ma, you can't get in the country. Which I'm good with. Yeah, that one's reasonable. No, that makes sense. That makes sense. Then also, Katy Perry, who was meant to perform, she was basically, they said, no, we can't, we're not going to let you in because, uh, this had to do with in a performance she

did in 2015. She performed at a concert in Taiwan already that that'll get you on a list if you're, if you're dealing with the Chinese government. Uh, but she was wearing like a Taiwanese flag and had, like, a sunflower dress on, which is, like, you know, they say could have been a reference to the Sunflower Revolution in 2014 in Taiwan. So China basically said... This is, like, Katy Perry's sense of geopolitics.

It doesn't extend to that. Exactly. I think the sunflower dress... She's probably just wearing the dress. That might have been... It would be great if, like, 100 years in the future, like, historians realize, like, all of her, like... We're all, like, coded like historians realize like all of her insane stagecraft was like telling this like really dope, like political anarchic. That Bon Appetit will be read like the I Have a Dream speech by kids in school.

But yeah, so because of that, China basically said that she's indefinitely banned or not allowed to enter the country. That is so badass. Yeah. Indefinitely banned from China. Like, yo, sorry. And we're not going to do anything. We're not taking it back. This is it.

So one of our writers, Allison, she was kind of going through and seeing that, like, you know, China does have a thing with basically keeping people out of the country over their social media posts. So like China is always watching. They're always watching. The keyboard player from Rune 5 banned. Why? Because he said happy birthday to the Dalai Lama on Twitter. That's enough. That's enough to get you basically banned from entering the country.

It's probably worth it. Also, the Dalai Lama appreciated the keyboard player from Rune 5 for the message. Also, keyboard player from Rune 5, no one knows your name. Sorry. We call you keyboard player from Maroon 5. Yeah, I wonder if the ban was keyboard player from Maroon 5 or if it had his name. I'm sure they went and they're like, look, sorry, keyboard player. The rest of us can go because we're not doing birthday tweets to the Dalai Lama.

Also, I don't think the Dalai Lama checks his mentions. So, you know. It seems very un-Dalai Lama-like. It does not seem like him being like, ooh. Against the very principle. Let me check my mentions. And then also, so then there are other people who have also been, who are barred from entering the country. Lady Gaga, Bjork, Oasis, because they've been very vocal of their support of Tibet.

And Justin Bieber, you know, it's because I think he's just Justin Bieber. So, guys, if you want to go to China, be careful on your social media because they will check that. I don't think regular people are being barred. But, again, if you're of anyone of note, be careful of what you say because it can get you barred from entering China. Another fun fact to come out of this story. Apparently, Katy Perry's fans in China call her Fruit Sister because she wears so many fruit-themed costumes. Wow. Which is dope. Fruit Sister. Fruit Sister. All wears so many fruit-themed costumes. Wow. She's dope.

Fruit Sister. Fruit Sister. All right. All right. That's my new goal. Yeah. I'm going to call me Fruit Sister. Well, get your social media game up and maybe make a splash in China.

Liana, this has been a blast. Where can people follow you? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Liana Maybe, which is probably not spelled how you think it is. We're making it a game. L-I-A-N-A-M-A-E-B-Y. There it is. Miles, where can people find you? Or at Fruit Sister.

At Fruit Sister. We better check and make sure that's available. Oh, for me, guys, please. Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Thank you to everybody's kind words about the show on Twitter and in your reviews. We really appreciate that. Yeah.

Keep the reviews coming. You can follow me at Jack underscore OBR. I E N. You can follow us at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram. The daily zeitgeist is our Facebook fan page. Uh, we've been getting a lot of good feedback there at daily zeitgeist on Twitter, We've been getting a lot of good feedback there. At Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. And you can go to dailyzeitgeist.com on the World Wide Web.

And that is where we put up episodes of the show, but we also put up our footnotes. Footnotes. Where you can find links to every article we used as a source for today's episode. And that's going to do it for today. Good episode one, guys. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Fantasy football fans, the NFL season is here,

and now is the time to do your homework. The best way to do that homework is to listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. Come hang out with me, Marcus Grant, as well as my pal Michael F. Florio, as we give you all the insight you need to set the best lineups each week. For a smart, fun, and entertaining path to league domination, the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast is the show for you. Subscribe now and listen to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast on the iHeartRadio app, on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi.

On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guests you could possibly ask for. People like Matt Bomer, Emma Roberts, and Colin Jost. Did you say a Caesar salad with lobster? Yeah. Whoa. Our second season is airing right now, so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate and often hilarious. that are intimate and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, fam, I'm Simone Boyce. I'm Danielle Robay. And we're the hosts of The Bright Side, the podcast from Hello Sunshine that's guaranteed to light up your day. Check out our recent episode with dancer, actress, and host of Dancing with the Stars, Julianne Hough,

revealing the healing journey behind her new novel, Everything We Never Knew. I am showing up for my younger self, and it is becoming a ripple effect energetically in my life, and that's why I feel so safe now. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry, Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese,

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.