The Daily Zeitgeist - The Billionaires Definitely Won! Another Internet Mystery Solved! 11.08.24

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

In episode 1773, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of 420 Day Fiancé, Sofiya Alexandra, to discuss… Oh Guess Who Made Out Great With That Trump Win? Mainstream Media Misreading Of T...he Election Is Under Way, Good News: One Of The Internet’s Biggest Mysteries Has Finally Been Solved and more! Oh Guess Who Made Out Great With That Trump Win? Good News: One Of The Internet’s Biggest Mysteries Has Finally Been Solved FEX - Subways Of Your Mind r/TheMysteriousSong Reddit sleuths track down the band behind the internet’s most mysterious song LISTEN: Mates by John Carroll KirbySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:23 It was the name of the, it's the song that by AK was too. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. No, we know. You heard that song. Kings of Layone. Justin, there's a song called Kings of Leon. Kings of Layone. Kings of Leon. Oh. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're mess. Well not a mess, but on our podcast called mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living.
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Starting point is 00:01:29 Chelsea Handler here on Dear Chelsea. I am joined by my longtime illegitimate baby named Kevin Hart. We talk about his birth. We talk about his afterbirth. We talk about his childhood, his adolescence, and that's pretty much where he is right now. What do you mean you don't think? No. What is going on with your legs that they need washing? It's your body. You wash your body, Chelsea. Your entire body. You don't think? What is going on with your legs that they need washing? It's your body. You wash your body, Chelsea.
Starting point is 00:01:47 Your entire body. You don't pick and choose. I have hot spots. There's harassment coming from one of us to the other person. You to me. Yeah, usually. That's true. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:01:58 And you take the abuse very well. You almost seem to enjoy it. Well, yeah. I mean, I've just grown accustomed to it. Right. OK. It's just that's what I wanted to say. Yeah, that's what I wanted to say.
Starting point is 00:02:05 That's what it is. Find Dear Chelsea on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Beau. Hey, Matt. Can you believe we have yet another very special episode coming up? This one is very close to my heart.
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Starting point is 00:03:43 podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello the internet and welcome to season three sixty three episode five of Dirt Aliens. I guess it's a production of I Heart Radio. It's America's only undecided podcast. I guess we can return that. Retire that joke. Which joke? The joke where my. Where America's only undecided podcasts. Because we liked them both so much. Anyways, it is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and it is Friday, November
Starting point is 00:04:18 8th, 2024. All right. It's time, baby. We made it to the end of the week. It's National STEM and STEAM Day. It's national stem and steam day It's national parents as teachers day Although I'm hopefully that's more of a shout out to parents that have had to be their kids teachers because shout out teachers Because I think that's the most Teaching education professionals. I think are the best method of my dude. What's your problem with homeschooling? Oh, man
Starting point is 00:04:43 I I played in a few bands. I played in a youth orchestra with two other guys who played trumpet that were homeschooled. I had to answer a lot of questions. They're always so interesting. It's just like- It all depends, man. There's some dope ones. You know, Suba Agrawal was homesed, and she is a delightful funny comedian.
Starting point is 00:05:05 It can go in so many wildly different directions. It's a mixed bag, and I guess so is public education, too. That's raising people, period. You like to be around the other kids and learn stuff. Anyway, it's also National Harvey Wallbanger Day, if you drink that cocktail, and National Cappuccino Day. Cappuccino. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:25 Remember the Bruce Willis movie Hudson Hawk? Yeah. Danny Aiello repeatedly makes fun of him for drinking cappuccinos as like being like not cool. Yeah, like not masculine. He's like, why do you drink those European coffees? Not Tommy Five tone. Everyone knows delicious things are not for boys.
Starting point is 00:05:47 That's right. That was during the phase of my life where my favorite genre of movie was Bruce Willis. Was Danny Aiello side characters. Dad, I only listen to what Tommy Five tone says. Hudson Hawk were my favorite films. I know they might seem different to you. Would you like to swing on a star?
Starting point is 00:06:09 All right, well, my name is Jack O'Brien, AKA yeah, we're a dumpster fire. That one courtesy of Kings of Leon and Christie Yamaguchi main on the Discord. Yes, yes, yes. Christy, I don't know what you're talking about, but yeah. No, couldn't be further from... I'm actually like having trouble driving around the city of Los Angeles,
Starting point is 00:06:37 which overwhelmingly like did not vote for Trump, but just everybody I see, I'm like, are you one of them? Did you vote for this motherfucker? Like I just kind of assume they did now everywhere I look. Just everybody I see, I'm like, are you one of them? Did you vote for this motherfucker? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I just kind of assumed they did now, everywhere I look. And I feel like that's partially what's going on with the mainstream media.
Starting point is 00:06:51 It's like they're just like, I guess he was right about everything. We're just gonna act like yes and get in line now. No, fuck wits. No, no, no, no. Let's not do that now. Let's not do that just yet, boy-o. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host,
Starting point is 00:07:09 Mr. Miles Gray! Hey, it's Miles Gray, your boy high off that copium, high off that copaine, AKA snip, sniffin' on some snip, sniffin' on some Selser. Sniff, sniffin' on some snitta, sniffin' on some Selser are shout out to less than zero because yeah, I was saying, yeah, I was sniffing on that cells are pulled a little bit to try and keep the demons at bay. I guess what deeply off that cells are.
Starting point is 00:07:34 They were in bed with me those demons the whole time anyway, but shout out you less than zero. Here we are. Here we are. And here dusting ourselves off. Yes, we are. Yes, we are, here we are, and dusting ourselves off. Yes, we are. Yes, we are. Trying to. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our very favorite guests,
Starting point is 00:07:49 very talented writer, stand-up comedian currently on tour in the Midwest. What a fun time to be on tour in the Midwest, I bet. Her advice on sex and travel have been featured in Men's Health, The Strategist, Betches, Anywhere Men Need Help, Fingering, as she likes to say. Also co-hosts the great 90 Day Fiance podcast, 420 Day Fiance. Oh my God, what? Some guy named Miles.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Welcome to the show, the hilarious and talented Sophia Alexandra! Sophia! I'm so glad to be here with you in a little island in the Midwest that... Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:30 I don't know if you've ever seen someone just for fun lay out things that spell Trump, but the letters are so big on their lawn. Oh, like it's a message, like an SOS message on a desert island? Paper towels or something? Like they're trying to get like airlifted out by FEMA. Right. Like that.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Does that happen? Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. No, our country is like it does feel a little like the end of us right now. Like where you like pull out and like there's just like wild shit. Like there's the, you know, human chain going across the country and like there's just like wild shit like there's the you know human chain going across the country and like bad things like a weird death cult has overtaken the nation that's kind of how it feels a little bit yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah i didn't know about the
Starting point is 00:09:19 that's it that's a wild visual they just spelled trump out on their lawn huh gotta celebrate i mean i went what if went. What if he flies over our house? He needs to know I love him the most. I was on your side, Sheriff. Don't look at Gary's house. He's stupid. Look at my house. My flag is bigger and I wrote your name big.
Starting point is 00:09:39 Like really, real big. And I don't even talk to my daughter anymore. Notice me, senpai. Well, Sophia, real big. And I don't even talk to my daughter anymore. Notice me, Senpai. Well, Sophia, thank you for joining us on this horrible week. We appreciate you doing the emotional labor of talking about the news with us as we all kind of work our way through this world of shit. So we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment.
Starting point is 00:10:09 First, we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna look at who did well financially off that Trump win. Was it the working class who overwhelmingly went in Trump's direction? I think maybe. I mean, I think it's got to.
Starting point is 00:10:24 I think it must be. It's gotta be be. We're going to look at the mainstream media, misreading the election with a quickness and, and just, uh, yeah, it's almost impressive. It's like, I bet their take is going to be this and sure is. They went right to it. We're going to look at who else had a good night besides billionaires. Meditation apps had a good night. There's like, I don't know. we're going to look at who else had a good night, besides billionaires. Meditation apps had a good night. Oh, shit. Okay. Yeah. But it was like a horrible day to be an alcohol.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Yeah, to be an alcohol. Yeah. To be a bottle of alcohol. Yes, to be any spirit. This has been a rough week for my dogs. We'll look at the internet. One of the internet's biggest mysteries has finally been solved. We'll take a step outside of the world of shit to just look at a standard internet story. Small victories on the internet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:15 That got solved. All of that, plenty more. But first, Sophia, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? So, because I'm in the Midwest, I'm traveling around with my best friend Jeff, and he and I were ordering food, and I was like, oh, do you want potato skins? And he's like, oh, fries? Like fries?
Starting point is 00:11:36 Yeah. And I was like, no, potato skins. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, like, like French fries. I was like, no, again, no, potato skins. And was like no again. No potato skins and And then he goes what are potato skins Jeff? And I could not think of work the word how to describe them. So I just kept doing this with my hand And then I literally had to look up like how to explain what her potatoes. How to explain the potatoes.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Because like I can't Google the copy. You know, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like, well, how are you show a picture? Well, that's the thing. It did not occur to me to do that. You like to be an alcohol. I'm saying I'm saying it was a rough day. I was like, I have to have words to describe a potato skin. And I was like, well, there's toppings on it. And he's like, oh, like chili fries.
Starting point is 00:12:29 I was like, I'm going to kill myself. Jeff, stop it. It's not fries. I feel like the potato skin is ready for its moment. It's ready to go mainstream to break through to the Jeffs of the world. Because I feel, yeah, I feel like the potato skin is ready for its moment. It's ready to go mainstream, to break through to the Jeffs of the world. Because I feel like it hasn't...
Starting point is 00:12:51 Nobody has nailed it on a giant chain-wide scale. And I could be wrong about that. Yeah, it hasn't had its cauliflower moment yet. Yeah, exactly. It hasn't had its broccolini moment, if you will. I mean, yeah, I guess because we just gave up on it. I mean, because I feel like every American knows about the potato skin. That's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Are we way off? But it's like they can be... I think they have a lower basement than most potatoes. Like I think a bad potato skin is worse than a bad most other. But they're so ubiquitous in terms of like American cuisine. Like I don't know. Yeah. Like, I feel like if you go to any sort of like, like Norm Core American restaurant kind of chain, like potato skins or like chilies or TGI Fridays.
Starting point is 00:13:33 How would you how did you think that you could shovel? Just bits of bacon, melted cheese and sour cream in your mouth without the little puppy. So that I have a little puppy. It just Well, here's the thing I'm not calling bullshit on your stories of the area I just I refuse to believe that Jeff Foxworthy doesn't know Oh, no, I'm sorry you totally Other your other best friend Jeff. My other best friend Jeff Dunham.
Starting point is 00:14:06 He doesn't know, but his puppet does. That's it. What the hell are you talking about, son? It's like a married couple that's been married for a long time. It's like so hard to share. And all the information is in his hand about potatoes. That's why when you do the cup thing,
Starting point is 00:14:18 he's like, what the fuck is that? I don't know, it's not big. What are you showing off? Yeah, okay, I can see you. It is really hard to share with all of them though. Yeah. People, especially that like weird terrorist one that he's still towards. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:30 And the one with the boobs. Yeah. Weirder. Yeah. The boob one is really. Who makes his puppets? He's not a puppet maker. Is he?
Starting point is 00:14:39 That would be so funny. He's like, I also love to make puppets. I wonder, does he listen to Metallica's master of puppets to get psyched up? Like, does he see himself like that? He probably has a puppet playlist that he like pumps before he goes. Yo, he builds his own puppets. Yo! I had a feeling.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Like, he's different. I didn't think so. I think he outsourced it. I'll be honest with you. No, I'm just looking it up right now. He fucks his puppets, right? Like we can all agree. Oh, yeah. Why else would you know?
Starting point is 00:15:12 What is something that you think is moving on underrated? I just want to be fucked his puppets, right? OK, moving on. What's up? What do I think is underrated? Sorry, I'm like, I'm like deep in my thoughts of traveling across the country. I'm like, well, you know what's underrated is people being nice to each other. But yeah, the moments that I've had on the road that are so nice and kind where people share about themselves and are just very friendly and lovely.
Starting point is 00:15:43 And then the other times where someone's just like literally trying to attack you and talk to you about shit that you're like, I have no idea why you would even engage me. You see what I look like and you know what you're trying, I know what you're trying to do. So I just feel like the assumption that like, just because I'm a liberal and I'm sitting across or next to a conservative, that I'm there to like battle them over potato skins. Yeah, right. That's not really the vibe. And also if you want to have a conversation, have a conversation.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Yeah, most I think most people are so hopped up on internet content that isn't conversations. Everything is a debate or scream fest. And that's like the fuel that people are like really taking in there that yeah, I can totally see how they're like, oh yeah. When I, when I get to be near liberal, I'm going to do the things from my favorite Instagram reels on them. Yeah. I'm going to do YouTube pranks that I saw that had a trigger libs.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And then they very, they're very rarely have much stamina on that in my experience. Like you just need to be like, what? Say that again, but really stand on it this time. Say it like, I'm looking at you now? Yeah, never mind. But I mean, yeah, like I was telling you guys before we started, it's like I was having a conversation with someone in Indiana and they were like, you know, I'm really concerned with illegal immigrants
Starting point is 00:17:06 and dead people voting. I think that's like the biggest problem. And you know, I just was like, oh, that's interesting. I don't think statistically that is actually true, but I would love to see like a link, and the person like literally got mad at me and said that they knew a dead person that voted because their friend was at
Starting point is 00:17:26 the polls and saw their dead friends written name written down. I'm like, your story does not make any sense. This is not how any of this works. This is so wild. Right. Yeah. If you're going to have a conversation like that's an exchange of ideas. It's not a well, but I would imagine you with my.
Starting point is 00:17:44 Yeah. But I think that requires a level of like openness and malleability, which I think for some people is just impossible at this point where it's like, I'm just here, I just want you to say the thing that I predict, I think you're going to say so I can rebut it in the way I've been trained to. And if not, I'm just going to get angry and then we can just have a potato skins in separate parts of the restaurant. And here's the thing, like, I think it's tempting and everybody puts up these statuses where they're like, fuck you. If you've ever, you know, when you voted for him, like you've ruined everything and like, I'll never talk to you again. I don't know who that's for. You know what I mean? Like, I know we're mad, but that's not I don't know who that's for because they're not reading that.
Starting point is 00:18:21 Like, that's not you're not you're not going to get through to them or whatever. It's for you because you feel frustrated. Just general expression of anger. Yeah. Which is fair. You can absolutely do that. But I guess what I'm saying overall, you're still going to end up sitting next to somebody
Starting point is 00:18:34 like that eating potato skins. And you need to be able to have a conversation that gives knowledge. Because like I said, yeah, telling somebody that, hey, people who are here, if they're undocumented, the last thing they would do is go vote because they don't want to get on the radar of the government. Try some wild shit.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Yeah, like voting the least. Because they're like, I love Kamala. I'm like, that's not how it works. And watching the person's face change in front of me, literally, and say, I have never thought of that. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's, you have to have the conversations because there would be.
Starting point is 00:19:06 You did break through there. Yeah, it's the tiniest thing. But I'm like, I think if you start off at least with some sort of, and again, it's no one's job to teach other people, but we're also never going to get away from other people. Yeah, we're stuck with them. Yeah. But yeah, it feels like it's very easy to do harm and be angry and hateful and dismissive
Starting point is 00:19:30 of people when they're in abstraction. And then the second they become real people, it usually gets a lot trickier. But yeah, it feels good sometimes to type something so hard that your keyboard starts to smoke. But it's also not that. I feel like I don't feel better after something like that. That's what my issue is too. It's not that I have a problem with people expressing themselves. Dude, I'm also devastated and mad and fucking sad and all that shit.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I just feel like telling them like, fuck you. That's not improving elections four years from now. Yeah. Yeah. So elections elections four years from now. I mean, that's adorable that I think that there's even going to be. One day at a time. It's pretty cute.
Starting point is 00:20:20 You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that let the Democrats run again because the Democrats will run somebody like Pete Buttigieg or some They'll probably run a they'll probably at this point run like a book of coupons or something, right? Right that like a free value pack of coupons Yeah comes to your house that you never ever
Starting point is 00:20:36 dollars worth of value inside and you open it and it's just for like a Million versions of like new windows or would know yeah, we don't treat no treatments a million versions of like new windows or windows, window treatments. Yeah, window treatments. And like how many windows do people have that you have a book of these coupons that you send out to everyone every month? So yeah, like we're kind of probably gonna be,
Starting point is 00:20:53 it's gonna be value pack 2028. Value pack. Yeah, it's been a pretty interesting couple months. We've been experimenting with a lot of different window treatments at our house. So that's what Sophia is something you think is overrated? Underrated or overrated? Overrated. Overrated? Your underrated was being...
Starting point is 00:21:16 I know, I know, being nice. I have gonorrhea. Thank you. What was that? I don't know, I think Sophia said something. For the job for forever. This guy on the show is just like, trying to explain to his girlfriend, he's been cheating on her, and he has gonorrhea, and he just says it like that.
Starting point is 00:21:36 But he also can't stop saying gonorrhea to everybody and to her. It's the most insane. Then they take a beach trip. I don't think gonorrhea going to spread on the beach. You understand there's a collection of. I think the pills is no leaking. I think the pills is no leaking.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Yeah. Cause he's like being doing the patronizing thing to his Filipino girlfriend where he's speaking like. Oh, he's not. Yes. He's a white guy. And he's like, I think we take the beat gonorrheahea no spread on the beach I take the pills there's no leaking about his my god yeah I think the pills there's no leaking no more sludge okay
Starting point is 00:22:13 did you find it overrated is you know not telling people that you have gonorrhea repeatedly. If you watch 98 Beyonce, you will know what this is about. And then we'll be like, we have to leave the whole break in. Oh my God. Uh, what the fuck? Yeah. Does that work?
Starting point is 00:22:41 You see him, dude. Wait till you see him. Yeah, it's, it's bad. It's going to make it worse. Yeah. Does that work? Wait till you see him, dude. Wait till you see him. Yeah, it's bad. It's going to make it worse. Yeah. Sorry, that was your overrated was not casually bringing up or bringing up casually. Casually bringing up the gonorrhea and then trying to gaslight your fiance into having sex with you on the beach.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Yeah. I mean, at this point, luckily, I mean, again, we're bringing a bit of 420 day fiancee to the show here, but there's a guy who has he's like Polly, but he wants to be like he has this trans girlfriend in the Philippines. And he has been acting like he doesn't want to have like an open relationship and acting like he wants to be monogamous. But the whole time they've been away, he's been having sex with whoever. And then when he got to the Philippines, he has gonorrhea. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Put it his words. I don't think gonorrhea gonna spread on the beach. That was him doing the offensive thing that American people do when they speak to someone whose English is a second language where they start chopping up the sentences. Yeah. They're like, this will make it easier. I'll speak incorrect English to you. Yeah, that's exactly how. Yeah, there's no leaking though. So that's cool. Also, I think, I think it's really good to know that in polyamory, both people know.
Starting point is 00:23:59 Yeah, that's right. Right, right, right. Yeah. Right. That's right. Yeah. Underrated. I mean, it's not you doing it and your partner being like, I'm so glad I'm an secret polyamory. Yeah, I think that's what it is.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Overrated. Very overrated. Not a thing. Even if no more sludge. Yeah. Oh, did you say that? I said it all the time. All he does is talk about his gun. Shut the fuck up. And then he's like, hey, when I when you introduce me to your family,
Starting point is 00:24:32 you're not going to tell him about the, you know, the whole I have gonorrhea. And it's and it's like, dude, what are you doing? There's also another quote where he goes, I hope gonorrhea doesn't ruin this whole day. where he goes, I hope gonorrhea doesn't ruin this whole day. Yeah. Anyway, he's like, I'm just going to own it. I'm just going to own it. You know?
Starting point is 00:24:52 No, that is kind of his strategy and it's failing spectacularly. Oh, wow. He's not what I expected him to look like. Yeah, I know. Isn't it so much worse now that you see? Also, his plan, he left an apartment that he can't pay for in America and his secret plan in addition to being secretly Polly was also to secretly move in with his girlfriend who was expecting to move to America.
Starting point is 00:25:18 Yeah. He's like, I could live in the Philippines. It seems way cheaper. Actually, wait a second. My entire plan was hinges on you saying yes, but not knowing me at all. Wait a second. I just got the craziest idea. He says he like drops his suitcases.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Pretty much. He's like, I like the bed. PSI only have $20, but let's go out. Oh, and also gonorrhea. Don't forget about that. Yeah, no, it's kind of my way. But let's go out. Oh and also gonorrhea Cover that yet. No It's kind of my way. I'm worried about that beach trip miles though. What's gonna happen? Why I don't think gonorrhea gonna spread on the beach. No You know why because I think the pills is no leaking. Oh you take the pills. Okay, take the pills is no leaking
Starting point is 00:26:02 Yeah anyway, guys, can you imagine? Oh, oh my God. I'm trying to think like who he looks like. So someone who from from 428 fiance, one of the K one said that he kind of looks like Breckenmeyer. And I said, oh my God, that's so mean to Breckenmeyer. Then the person replied, Reckbrier. Reckenbrier.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Yeah. Sorry, Rick, you get it. Meyer. Yeah. Yeah. Fix it. Fix it in post guys. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:36 Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're MESS. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called MESS, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like JLo on her third divorce. Living.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Girl's trip to Miami. MESS. Ozempic. Living. Girls trip to Miami. Mess. Ozempic. Messy skinny living. Ha ha ha. Restaurants stealing a birthday cake. Mess. Wait, what flavor was the cake though?
Starting point is 00:27:14 Okay, that's a good question. Hooking up with someone in accounting and then getting a promotion. Living. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living. Living. This kind of mess. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:27:46 We talk about his birth, we talk about his afterbirth, we talk about his childhood, his adolescence, and that's pretty much where he is right now. What do you mean you don't think? What is going on with your legs that they need washing? It's your body. You wash your body, Chelsea. Your entire body. You don't pick and choose.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I have hot spots. There's harassment coming from one of us to the other person. To me. Your entire body, you don't pick and choose. I have hot spots. This is a more serious. There's harassment coming from one of us to the other person. You to me. Yeah, usually, that's true. I'm not gonna lie. And you take the abuse very well.
Starting point is 00:28:12 You almost seem to enjoy it. Well, yeah, I mean, I've just grown accustomed to it. Right, okay. That's what I wanted to say. Yeah, that's what it is. Find Dear Chelsea on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Bo.
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Starting point is 00:31:08 Yada yada. Skip forward through this part. We're going forward. Skip five minutes. Let's see how the economy is doing. Aka how... So stock market was, and this is going to surprise people because the stock market is usually so cool and full of like cool people have good ideas about what's good for America.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Yeah, there's a lot of really cool movies about it. We're like, I feel good about this. These guys seem like they have it together and they have good ideas. I like them almost as much as they like cocaine. Yeah. They were pumped that he won. Actually, the stock market surged. We got a Trump surge, baby.
Starting point is 00:31:48 And yeah, the billionaires who invested in him, whether it be through a bent knee in the form of withholding their newspaper's endorsement of his opponent, or just like totally funding his campaign. They got a nice little return on their return. Good return. Yeah. Like we are set up top, you know, working class voters definitely broke a lot further to the right than expected.
Starting point is 00:32:21 But unfortunately, they're not the ones reaping the immediate benefits of this win, because in terms just like broadly, right, if we look at billionaire spend, and just what happened in this election, we were $16 billion was spent on this election, $16 billion was spent on and that's in terms of the election. Yes, that's in terms of what you can actually track in America with that, that much money, this is...
Starting point is 00:32:45 Oh, you could, I mean, you would... You could end multiple crises in the United States with $16 billion. And so dark money spent a billion dollars, which is last cycle, they spent around $100 million. So big money was a huge part of this election. And Trump was telling billionaires, look, he's like, and their corporate entities, give me some cash.
Starting point is 00:33:05 I'm going to give you some favorable treatment. How do we know that that dark money wasn't just like work a day plumbers and stuff, just pulling their resources to fund a candidate that they felt strongly about and then just completely take their name off it so nobody could ever find out? Yeah. I mean, just based on the number of people that searched, if Joe Biden was on the ballot on election day, I feel like that may be a few levels up in terms of wonky stuff. But yeah, I also want to say you guys
Starting point is 00:33:32 that, you know, the educational levels of the people that I meet on the road, I think, tell me great stuff about our focus and where the money goes and how much everyone understands what the fuck is going on. Because it turns out people do not know what the fuck is going on. They don't read and they don't know what critical thinking is. Sure. So Trump obviously getting billionaire money. Kamala also getting billionaire money, got huge swaths of cash being dumped on her campaign from Silicon Valley and Wall Street super PACs. And also in this election cycle, Kamala Harris became the first presidential campaign or candidate in history whose biggest source of funding was anonymous dark money. So this was like the billionaires election, no matter what way you look at it, which I think explains a lot in terms of like what kind of policy prescriptions were even being said out loud.
Starting point is 00:34:26 And again, if you go person by person, right? The total gains for billionaires was $63.5 billion from the just the bump from the Trump win. That's what happened just in the 24 to 36 hours since the election night victory. Bezos had an increase of $7 billion to his fortune. Bill Gates, somehow it got these $2 billion richer. Elon made $26.5 billion. And like crypto also, the one of the biggest industry to donate to campaigns,
Starting point is 00:34:59 they made gains in the billions also. So, yeah, they got their money back. I mean, we said there would be some silver linings made gains in the billions also. So it, it, it, yeah, they, they, they got their money back. You know, we said there would be some silver linings to this election and there it is. We, you love to see it. You love to see some, some underdog wins for America's worst fucking people. I forgot Bill Gates was a billionaire. I will.
Starting point is 00:35:21 So, yeah. And yeah. Again, and like the critical thinking thing where the people who voted for Trump are like, hell yeah, like things are going to improve while literally looking at the billions going towards the richest people just getting sucked right up to never gave a fuck about them and never will. What's up? Yeah, this guy like in twisters like in twister just off into the sky immediately. You're not seeing that shit again. I think that's the other part. You have to understand it's like, that's sick that he made that money. He's like, that's money that you will never be able to touch.
Starting point is 00:35:45 That's what I'm saying. That's, but okay. Sure. Yeah, dude, you're just jealous. So like, why are you bringing it up? Is it because you're like jealous and a hater and you're like, you don't want to have Lambo? Is that it? No, because if there's less money out there for people to be earning, that means their
Starting point is 00:36:00 quality of life goes, you know what? Yeah, I, I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. and a hater and you're like, you don't want to have Lambo? Is that it? No, because if there's less money out there for people to be earning, that means their quality of life goes, you know what? Yeah, just can I get the potato skins, man? USA, USA, yeah. I drove by a store that was called Black Friday the store.
Starting point is 00:36:23 Black Friday the store. Black Friday the store. What is that even supposed to be? The Black Friday the store. I was like, oh, so you can just get like trampled year round? People are like, we want this on demand. Every morning is a door buster. Is that not the craziest thing you've ever heard? Black Friday the store.
Starting point is 00:36:39 That actually makes so much sense to me. Like, because the Black Friday thing is kind of a myth for the most part. It's just a media story. Like they set up and will make the bad things that happened on that day seem worse because it's just a story that they really want to tell and like that people believe in. So why not just like make it like a civil war reenactment of those, you know, of those media stories that don't actually happen, but people want to exist so badly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Yeah. It's like the same way they want to believe that people are trying to give kids drugs on Halloween. In their Halloween candy. Yeah. It's like, all right. Yeah, exactly. It is.
Starting point is 00:37:21 It's one of those urban legends that every year the mainstream media falls for. Also shortages of Christmas trees and candy canes. But yeah, candy canes. And good cheer. I heard good cheers at an ultimate low, guys. Oh, yeah. But that's why I buy good cheer futures. That's smart.
Starting point is 00:37:38 That's smart. Because I lost so much money in Frankincense and Mer last year that I can't even fuck around. I told you. I'm fucking over a barrel. I can't just say I told you so. But didn't I? Yeah, you fucking did.
Starting point is 00:37:50 I'm sorry. Sometimes you got to go with your heart and gut. Yeah, that's why you run. Wall Street. But Mer, Mer fucked me up. Mer. And I shouldn't have tied them together. You know, I should have put them separate.
Starting point is 00:38:02 That was on me. You did a two two thing, two item parlay. Yeah, I know, I should have put them separate. That was on me. You did a two-item parlay. Yeah, I've double-fisted and I should not have. I did a perum on my rump pump. Yeah, I'm going to call my nutcrackers and just be like, yo, what's going on? Guys, this is what the show is for now until we can... Yeah, people spiraling. Yeah, we're just, you know.
Starting point is 00:38:25 All right, talk about it. If there's no absurdity, I just don't really know what we're doing because everything about everything is so absurd right now. Yeah, it's surreal. Again, not going to dig in too deep on the headlines or the details of how people are reading things. I do just keep an eye on how the mainstream media is
Starting point is 00:38:44 taking the election that they had wrong. But they were actually kind of closer than a lot of the poll watchers. And there's been a couple isolated moments of circumspect self-reflection from the likes of David Brooks, believe it or not, who said, the rest of us need to look at this result with humility. The American voters are not always wise, but they are generally sensible, and they have something to teach us.
Starting point is 00:39:11 My initial thought is that I have to re-examine my own priors. You know it's David Brooks and one of these poll fucks to get my priors. I'm a moderate. I like it when Democratic candidates run to the center, but I have to confess that Harris did that pretty effectively and it didn't work. Maybe the Democrats have to embrace a Bernie Sanders
Starting point is 00:39:33 style disruption, something that will make people like me feel uncomfortable. Mm-hmm. A statement that he will probably get 3,000 emails about making and immediately try to bury and pretend he never fucking said that. But that is, I think the narrative, like that is going to be the historical narrative of 2016 through the present moment is the Democrats ran away from their person who is critical of how the system actually operates
Starting point is 00:40:07 and killed his candidacy twice and the Republicans went with theirs. Theirs is fascism and that is where we are now. Right. Yeah. That is of course not the narrative that we're getting from the mainstream media. The overall read on the election seems to be to treat Trump's victory as a broad rejection of the values that the Democrats didn't run on. Like the Apple news podcast this morning is like talking about how new groups of Americans like embraced Trump, the New York Times headline parsing through the numbers, calls it a says, early results show a red shift across the US. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:53 I can't tell you how much I hate the phrasing of like the blue wall is crumbling and the red wave and whatever. I'm like, why do we need to make this into like some sort of like a D&D situation? Like, can we just? Can be like, hey, the policies aren't popular with these people. Figure it out. Yeah. What the fuck are we doing? Hold. I'm like, I'm sorry. Are we are we fighting Game of Thrones?
Starting point is 00:41:16 Like, what are we doing? Is this Minas Tirith? Is this Lord of the Rings or some shit? What are we doing here? Yeah, I thought I'd not pass. Thank you. There we go. And now I understand. I don't think there's like any one answer to what went wrong for the Democrats here. I think there are a lot of them, which is part of
Starting point is 00:41:39 the problem. They also gave a lot of answers and like didn't have a coherent message at all during the campaign. But yeah, they they had a lot of answers and didn't have a coherent message at all during the campaign. But yeah, they had a lot of answers. I definitely think America is racist and misogynistic. So I think that factors in people who are saying, let's ignore that. I don't know why you would. I also think- Yeah, because that's the have. We will not reckon with as a nation. So it's just more like, yeah, dude, obviously, like this place hates women and not white people. Like, obviously, dude, but like, let's go to the other part.
Starting point is 00:42:14 Was it like, because of Latinos or something? No, motherfucker. Blame those people. No, no, no. There's an there's an original sin that has not been reckoned with. So whenever you're ignoring all of that, like all this stuff misses the mark too. But I think it like I'd say most of his supporters are bought into the cruelty that Donald Trump represents. That's like without a question.
Starting point is 00:42:37 I think the difference is then there are other people like he got it over the line with people that were simply too tired and ill informed about like what's going on and they were tired of the status quo that the only option they were presented with was this person because they're like, I don't know if the government isn't delivering for me in the way that I needed to in terms of like affordable housing or income equality or health care or things like that. So then when the other guy's like, yeah, fuck all this thing, then it's like, I guess that then without understanding what the ramifications are.
Starting point is 00:43:12 But yeah, I would say because like the biggest expansion of his base was with white voters. That was the way. Can I say something? Yeah. I want to say that also. I think it's a mistake to look at the way that if we don't notice that right-wing voters vote against something, that's what motivates them. And like, you know, the other
Starting point is 00:43:37 side's trying to vote for something. And I think those are two fundamentally like opposed ideologies. If you're going because you're trying to prevent illegal or dead people from voting, if you're going because you're like, I need to stop, blah, blah, blah. If you're that, you know, I feel like that makes you come out to the polls in a way that people who are voting for something don't necessarily, you know, well, they oh, it's not as exciting to be like, I'm for health care. I'm for whatever. It is exciting to be like, I'm going to put these motherfuckers in their place because I'm against this. Right. But I think also at the same time, that is that was the message from Democrats to was like, we have to come out against Donald Trump, because most people were not voting. Like the messaging was more like we have to stop Donald Trump. Also, that's's pure that was so much of it was like the last things are about fascism and The threat to democracy was something that was talked about a lot
Starting point is 00:44:31 And I think yeah, there there definitely could have been more to vote for I think it just it's they were deployed in different ways I think the biggest issue is generally right if things aren things aren't going well, you kind of like, sometimes people like, Hey, you don't like what's going on? Well, I'm different. And when you have another candidate, like when you had Kamala say on the view that like, Oh, like, I don't, I don't see what I would do much different from Joe Biden. That's a single thing. Yeah, that's, that's a, that's like, that's kind of like a really bad message to send when at the very least, like, the Democrats would have been open to a change candidate, obviously, because the whole point of the Biden voting for Biden and even has he articulated in 2020 was, I'm going to be the bridge to this new whatever this new, whatever this new era is going to be.
Starting point is 00:45:18 And that just didn't happen. So like, just the, there was a lot of just deflated people. And I don't know. I'm sure I'm part of it could be that people just also thought, oh, you know what? Donald Trump's not going to win. Maybe I don't have to vote. But I think there are also a lot of people who are just completely
Starting point is 00:45:34 like, where does the relief come from? And that's also a huge knock on, like, enthusiasm that I guess. Well, I also think that, like, I agree with that. And I also think that like, I agree with that. And I also think that it does kind of tie in a little bit until what I was saying about like voting for against something. It's like, if you don't have a compelling candidate, you don't have somebody that goes along with people having that hope and change message, right?
Starting point is 00:46:00 Like that's what gets people out if they're like, oh, this is going to get better. I'm looking at this as like, this is the version they're selling me changes happening. Great. Like when you don't have that and it's like Biden and Kamala and it's kind of scattered and no one is actually presenting a position or whatever that you could be like, Oh shit, like this is a change. We're going to vote for some. Oh, that's a good shit. So it's like it goes along with not having a candidate that is compelling in any way. Yeah. I feel like since the financial crisis of 2008, America has basically been like, fuck
Starting point is 00:46:38 this free market system. Like we had for a long time, this world where the economy was treated as synonymous with Wall Street. And 2008, around that time, people were like, well, fuck that. That obviously doesn't work. The Wall Street making money doesn't make me money. In fact, they victimize us. This current system that is what the mainstream media and the mainstream Democratic Party and at that time the mainstream Republican Party are talking
Starting point is 00:47:10 about is not like what it is not what I want to keep going. So you had Obama talking about hope and change and like people voted for him in 2012. He was the establishment but he was going against somebody who was like a fucking Wall Street, like he looked like he could have been in the movie Wall Street, Mitt Romney. Like he, he was like, that was his background. And then ever since 2016, it's just been voting against whoever is currently like the person who's operating the machine that people fucking hate. Like people don't like the system as it currently operates.
Starting point is 00:47:50 And if you're the person who's operating the machine, you're going to be at a huge disadvantage. So when Trump had just spent the last four years as the person operating the machine, people voted against him. And now that it was Biden, like Biden was going to get crushed way worse. But then Kamala came in and wouldn't like distance herself from that. And so she got crushed. She got connected to the person who was the person operating the machine.
Starting point is 00:48:20 So it's, yeah, it seems pretty like, I don't know that that does seem to be the one central thing that you can take away. And Bernie Sanders came out and said that it's not surprising that this happened from the perspective of the movement that he built in 2016 was based on this messaging around working class people. And I think a lot of like mainstream Democrats are angry But I think like when you think of it as like this core idea of like you have to have message Discipline and also like a plan to change this system They currently isn't working for people if you don't have that you're going to be fucked Like you're just going to be what I think that like David Brooks quote kind of sort of encapsulates just the, how people who are at the sort of top layers of like the, of thinking within political parties, like in the democratic consultant class are where he's like,
Starting point is 00:49:16 he's like, you know, I'm a moderate. I like it when they move to run to the center. And then when he says, It makes me feel good. I get a little horny. It makes me feel good. Because again, right. Because this is someone because this is a guy who 100% benefits
Starting point is 00:49:30 from the status quo at every level. Like there's nothing. That's just why he says, oh, something that makes me uncomfortable is a form of some kind of equity that again, it's like, well, I don't need that. That sounds like wealth redistribution. I don't know how I feel about that because I'm doing fine. I'm doing fine.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Yeah. And all, and all of the talk of Bidenomics was so fucking patronizing. And we talk about this all the time when the media kept going like, but the economy is so good. How come Biden's getting hit on the economy when inflation is coming down, the jobs numbers are great. And we're like, you don't understand people aren't the normal people don't go, oh man did you see the inflation came down another half percentage point this month. Yeah. Rather than, that's my topic. Rather than
Starting point is 00:50:13 I have to work three fucking jobs to support my family. I have kids with medical conditions or I have kids that are LGBTQ and I'm worried about like what their living situation is gonna be like How do I afford a home when you do all this fucking? 730 thousand foot elevation takes on the economy you and people abstractions Yeah, and saying you don't how come they don't appreciate that because they're not the ones who are actually benefiting from any of this Yeah, not in a tangible way and I get that Comparatively the data is like,
Starting point is 00:50:45 well, inflation has come down. However, if you offered people an opportunity to say, what if you just had one job and you could support yourself, one job? And that's the vision that I have. What if you didn't have to fear that you, if you lose health, well, if, you don't have to fear about being sick at all,
Starting point is 00:51:03 because hopefully you will be able to get medical care that does not depend on. Yeah, there's so many times. Hustles. Every Delta I know in Los Angeles right now has like three to five gigs hustles and everyone is fucking struggling. And there's no. And there's no hope because no one's coming through saying, yeah, I know it looks like this part of the economy is doing well, but single actual individual families are suffering and you should pay attention. There's a reason people are super fucking pissed,
Starting point is 00:51:37 working class people. But the thing is the poorest person I know is my assistant and they're doing fine. Yeah. Of course they asked me for a reason. I said, no, but. And I said, no, I mean, good Lord, you should be happy with your studio apartment in Queens, but like this is the, that's like why it's just so frustrating when the answers are so simple, but everything is still looked at through this.
Starting point is 00:51:57 This, like the people live in Elysium completely detached from what happens on the ground and they make their calls. Telescope asks you of this bullshit. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean- They completely missed the mark. This ties into the first story. She raised more, a higher percentage of her campaign was funded by dark money.
Starting point is 00:52:15 As we talked about in a recent episode with an expert on the subject, dark money is not dark because the candidate doesn't know where the money came from. The candidate knows where the money came from. Yeah. It's dark because they hide who it came from so that other people, so that we don't know where it came from. So any hope that you might have that they're going to deliver any of the messaging that we were just talking about
Starting point is 00:52:39 is removed because of that dark money thing. Whoever was funding that dark money, they're not or worse, they just wanted to reject the status quo. And unfortunately, there were, like I said, many, many people who were, you know, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, they were, people did not, for better or worse, they just wanted to reject the status quo. And unfortunately, there are, like I said, many people are racist, are vile, racist,
Starting point is 00:53:13 women hating people and completely voted against their own interests. Then there is a subset because when you look at the pieces that moved away from the Democrats to that have been eroding its working class people. And they only picked up with like wealthier educated people in the suburbs. And so when you lose that, there's no fucking way you can be like, yo, we need to do we need to do away with all kinds of corporate housing when some of that super PAC money coming in is from like BlackRock. And you know that, how are you supposed to? Well,
Starting point is 00:53:42 And you know that how are you supposed to? We build the city on fucking the bones of fucking It's yeah, I'm thinking of how to redo the City on the bones of fucking I got I got too sad in my head. Yeah, literally like like like literally, I just feel I feel like it's devastating to know that information is so available
Starting point is 00:54:16 and people don't use it. Yeah, that that people don't educate themselves. People don't care enough. And then I mean, and I think this is where like teachers have been ringing the alarm for. Yes, forever. They said we were so underfunded. We don't have all the tools to teach these kids. A lot of these a lot of these kids, their their situations at home
Starting point is 00:54:38 aren't the kinds of place that are helping to enable like a continuation of like learning in the home. Because sometimes we're supposed to be the first of first world quote unquote country whatever the fuck that means and teachers have websites where you fund them them them buying pencils pens and books for their fucking classes like right now the burden of kids actually having an education is somehow nightmarishly in the hands of like a GoFundMe system in the same way that like, you know, the healthcare thing is. Right, right. And like, that's, that's a huge alarm that we basically have outsourced healthcare and
Starting point is 00:55:19 outsourced education to, we don't care about it. We have to pay for it ourselves. Instead, these billions are being wasted on this bullshit. And like, yeah, they're like, go ahead and take care of your own cancer bills. We're not gonna help you there. Yeah, go ahead. Figure that out. Um, look, so yeah, go ahead. No, I was just saying, like Democrats, the whole thing, they've been promising a better tomorrow, a better tomorrow, a
Starting point is 00:55:43 better tomorrow, a better tomorrow, a better tomorrow, a better tomorrow for so many years. Right. And I think this is where people and understanding sort of what the forces at work are, that's all they can do is to promise it, but they cannot follow through because that would mean to go against the very system that empowers them. And so to think that it's that kind of change can happen from like within big D democratic politics is just it's not going to happen. And this is like this is just kind of the logical endpoint for that kind of strategy is like it got to a point where everyone's like, what the fuck, man, like, why am I struggling so bad?
Starting point is 00:56:18 And they keep talking about how everything can be better, but nothing's being delivered. And then that just means someone else just by comparison can come in and be like, nah, no, I'm not doing any of that. I know I'm taking care of y'all. Yeah. And spoiler alert, that won't happen too, because at the end of the day, they're both just different operators of the same wealth extracting machine. But they, but he is the one who's willing to say the system suck, like this
Starting point is 00:56:43 current version of the system sucks. He's saying it because racism, you know, he's willing to say the system suck, like this current version of the system sucks. He's saying it because racism, you know, he's saying because there's brown people here. Yeah, right. But at least it resonates with that. Whereas like the big D democratic like talking points has to like always come back to like, this is the greatest country on earth. And it's like not moving in the same direction that the people are who are frustrated with the system as it currently operates. The Democrats could have done the Catherine Hahn winking meme to have been like, we got
Starting point is 00:57:11 to take down these companies. Don't worry, y'all. Don't worry, y'all. I got you. I got you. Right. And I know there are some people who do the fake populism shit like that, but yeah, I mean, because the GOP is just willing to lie about every single thing. It's, it's truly just completely different strategies. And
Starting point is 00:57:29 yeah, I think this is why we keep talking about like what it what it's going to take to to win people back. But I think if anything, the other Democrats have just completely they've just they've ran the same playbook over and over and over to have not listened to not so hard. Yeah. And like the anger, I see a lot of people where they're like, you were they've just they've ran the same playbook over and over and over. They have not listened. They've not heard. Yeah. And like the anger, I see a lot of people where they're like, you were never going to vote for a Democrat, not me personally. But I hear people say things about like when people are expressing their ire at the situation, they're like, well, you would never vote anyway.
Starting point is 00:57:56 It's like, no, that's not true. Like this was the between the two parties. They had something that was a little more akin to something that had empathy and moving towards that direction. However, because of the sort of intractable influence of corporate donors and the billionaire class, it's just not possible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Unless they completely turn their backs on it. Cause it's not like, you know, the, it's like there's a huge super pack for public educators that are going to be like filling their coffers. Yeah. And then these are the people that are- In the pocket of big school teacher, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Notorious. Yeah. Right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about something that's not the election. Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're MESS.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called MESS, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like JLo on her third divorce. Living. Girl's trip to Miami. Mess. Ozempic.
Starting point is 00:59:07 Messy, skinny, living. Restaurants stealing a birthday cake. Mess. Wait, what flavor was the cake, though? OK, that's a good question. Hooking up with someone in accounting and then getting a promotion. Living.
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Starting point is 00:59:55 What is going on with your legs that they need washing? It's your body. You wash your body, Chelsea. Your entire body. You don't pick and choose. I have hot spots. There's harassment coming from one of us to the other person. You to me. Yeah, usually. That's true. I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 01:00:12 And you take the abuse very well. You almost seem to enjoy it. Well, yeah. I mean, I've just grown accustomed to it. Right. Okay. That's what I wanted to say. That's what it is.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Find Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Bo. Hey, Matt. Can you believe we have yet another very special episode coming up? This one is very close to my heart. We'll be joined by friend, the star of the upcoming Wicked film, the one and only Ariana Grande,
Starting point is 01:00:39 will be here in the studio with us. We hope this episode of Last Coach gives you so much joy. The episode is dropping this Wednesday, my birthday, November 6th. And of course, please go see Wicked when it comes out. November 22nd. Don't miss it. Listen to Lost Culture East us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone.
Starting point is 01:01:01 This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Leighton and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. It took drama and mayhem to an entirely new level. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, every backstab, blackmail and explosion and every single wig removal together. Secrets are revealed as we rewatch every moment with you.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Special guests from back in the day will be dropping by. You know who they are. Sydney, Allison and Joe are back together on Still the Place with a trip down memory lane and back to Melrose Place. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hey friends, I'm Jessica Capshaw. And this is Camilla Luddington. And we have a new podcast, call it what it is. You may know us from Graceland Memorial, but did you know that we are actually besties in real life? And as all besties do,
Starting point is 01:02:12 we navigate the highs and lows of life together. And what does that look like? A thousand pep talks, a million I've got yous, some very urgent I'm coming up first, because I don't know, let's face it, life can get even crazier than a season finale of Grey's Anatomy. And now here we are, opening up the friendship circle to you.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Someone's cheating? We've got you on that. In-laws are in-lying? Let's get into it. Toxic friendship? Air it out. We're on your side to help you with your concerns. Talk about ours and every once in a while,
Starting point is 01:02:41 bring on an awesome guest to get their take on the things that you bring us. While we may be unlicensed to advise, we're going to do it anyway. Listen to Call It What It Is on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. We're back. And in some good news, one of the Internet's biggest mysteries has chosen the worst time possible to have been solved if it wanted people to pay any attention. Is it that we figured out what color the dress is? No, we're still working on that.
Starting point is 01:03:22 We still have scientists pouring over that one. White and gold. Okay, cool. I'll just keep that mystery box closed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's for Christmas. This is a mystery that goes back decades that I wasn't aware of, but our writer, JM, was all over it.
Starting point is 01:03:40 It's very Reddit. It's very Reddit. I fucking love Reddit. Is it like when we tried to find whose's celebrity face it was on the thing? Number six. Celebrity number six. And then we finally figured it out. Figured it out.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Who was it? It was an obscure model from like Spain or Italy, I think. Yeah. It really didn't move the needle in any way. It was way more fun when we still didn't. It was like for years because someone had, it was like a fabric pattern that had all these celebrity faces on it. And everyone over the years
Starting point is 01:04:05 Slowly picked away at all the faces and there's number six No one could figure out whose face it was celebrity number six is the subreddit and you see people trying to be like I think It's this I Photoshopped, you know this image Yeah, yeah, and then if you overlay it next to it like this You can see the features are almost identical because it's just a black line drawing on like white fabric. So the faces are all a little bit off.
Starting point is 01:04:33 That's why it's like a mystery. It could have been some of the people. It's like kind of a Rorschach test too. Like, I see Sophia Virgar like, no. And it was this obscure. I see you Rodney Dangerfield. Is that right? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:04:44 So this is very similar. That's David Beckham. So this is actually one that goes back decades. A guy taped a bunch of songs off of a European radio station in the 80s. This was something I did in the 80s as a child. When I was first getting into music. I did that in the 90s. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:03 I would record, like use blank tapes to just record the radio. Like, I like this song and run over to it and hit record and catch maybe the second half. Yeah, exactly. It would never be a full song. Yeah. Never be a full song. For the longest time when Alia's Try Again came out, I recorded that shit off the radio, but I only had the last two-thirds of it.
Starting point is 01:05:23 Yeah. He kept trying again to get it. I know. Every time I remember calling the radio, but I only had the last two thirds of it. Yeah. And I could not get it. And you know, every time I remember, I tried to radius. Yeah. And I dusted myself and try it again. I even tell I haven't called the radio. I was like, what's that sound that goes? Like, what the fuck? Nevermind.'m like, never mind, fuck you. You're like bringing a friend from the other room to do other instrumentation. You're like, no, no, no, hold on.
Starting point is 01:05:50 He's got to come in on bass. Yeah. It was as good as the time when you called and asked what the song was, Esomri Baxo, Somnikes. I love that. Esomri Baxo, Somnikes. All right. So, taped a bunch of songs off of the station, couldn't figure out the name or artist of one synth pop song that he recorded.
Starting point is 01:06:14 So it was eventually uploaded to the internet in the early 2000s. No one was able to identify it. Even once he turned it over to the internet. It became the subject of the YouTube series, Tales from the Internet, a Reddit, a Discord, and people were just pouring over it, even going so far as to try and decipher the singer's specific accent and gleam
Starting point is 01:06:36 possible lyrical meanings and work their way back from that. So 84, what nation would have been having some money that meant this thing? Like, like, so the lyrics are so fun. They're just like such just 80s music, vague bullshit. Like, are they saying hear the young and restless dreaming or hear you're under arrest for screaming? Is the song called like the wind or locked away under arrest for screaming. Is the song called like the wind or locked away? You're under arrest for screaming, man. These babies are trying to sleep.
Starting point is 01:07:10 No, it's like, I'm actually pretty sure it's the screaming one. Oh, let's hear the track though. Cause I think it's important just to kind of hear it, just to give us an idea of what everyone was going crazy for. Uh-huh. Okay. This seven goes oh I. You're under arrest. You're under arrest.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Kind of sounds like a Gregorian chant. Yeah, like it kind of reminds me of the Soviet, that Soviet Union song. That's, that's one of my favorite internet videos. The yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, where it's just like, yo, they have like a completely different. Oh, Trollolo man. I think Trollolo man. Trollolo, Trollolo, Trollolo. It was like they just had a different, a whole different world going on behind the curtain there. Anyways, they even like- That's how I felt when I saw American shit. I was like, what the fuck is this? Michael Jackson? What is this bullshit? No, it was like, people are like, strawberry shortcake.
Starting point is 01:08:25 I'm like, what? Why? They're like, I'm wearing your shirt and you can scratch it and it smells. I'm like, what is happening in this country? I want to go back. Your mom didn't make that for you at home? No, I bought it at Target. Target?
Starting point is 01:08:40 The fuck is Target? So they even talked to the DJ who likely first played the song on the radio. They like went back and looked. And we think a Redditor finally found the song. It's called Subways of the Mind. That is the best fucking dude. Dude, it's like, yo, it's like I got subways like going through my mind. Just like, man, like you ever feel like you got some like, I don't know, maybe their thoughts,
Starting point is 01:09:08 they're like coming and going and like into more directions and just like, you're like, whoa, just like a subway. Oh, I would say I was picturing like Jared Fogle subway. I was thinking, oh, multiple. Specifically. Yeah, sadly. Now that you bring in a six inch tune into it, I'll hear you out. The mental sandwich artists. Yeah. You want screaming. Anyway, they are underrated.
Starting point is 01:09:42 You're like, what the? They found it by just like pouring through archives of a Hamburg music festival. Eventually found a band with rock, with wave and pop influences. They then contacted one of the band's members who sent over their old demos and somehow one of them was Subways of the Mind. Yes. Wow.
Starting point is 01:10:07 The guy had absolutely no idea. So once they contacted, obviously, Fex, F-E-X, whatever the fuck that was supposed to mean. And the guy had absolutely no idea that his old band had taken on mythic status online. And they are, you know, some people are still skeptical and have been like scrutinizing the new information to. Why would you lie? Why would you lie about something like that? To claim an obscure thing that you didn't even give a fuck about.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Cause you just found out about it. That seems crazy. You don't want that. You don't, cause you don't want them to win. That's why, you know, I mean, there's some haters like, gosh, man, fucking seven years trying to figure that out. Fuck this. This can't be true.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Yeah. No, that's literally like the voting against somebody. I'm going to vote against this being them. I'm going to fucking spite do this. Watch me spite claim this band. I think people would lie because they are part of a vast conspiracy that doesn't want to admit that we have made contact with other dimensions and somehow some of the music leaked over.
Starting point is 01:11:09 Via the subway. Via subways. Yeah. Yeah. The mind. Thank you so much. Yeah. They were tunneling subways beneath Humberg and broke through to an alternate dimension,
Starting point is 01:11:21 alternate version of the 80s where JFK was never assassinated. Stay with me. And, you know, they just had a different. I can't, I have a tiny woman brain and it's very smooth. I can't absorb any of this. Here, why don't you take a seat? You got 45 minutes?
Starting point is 01:11:37 You don't have to go anywhere, right? You don't have to go anywhere. You know what? I'm not gonna even ask that question. Hey, is it cool if I sit with you actually? All right, I'm gonna just bring my, I'm gonna eat with you actually. I'm gonna have my Salisbury steak with you. Hey, you know what? I'm not going to even ask that question. Hey, is it cool if I sit with you, actually? All right, I'm going to bring my, I'm going to eat with you, actually. I'm going to have my Salisbury steak with you.
Starting point is 01:11:47 Hey, you look real nice. So anyways, I was telling you. Yeah. Hey, can I have one of your potato skins? Anyways, the band has reunited. They look like a combination of like some guy my dad would go golfing with, Tom York if he had been underground for the past 40 years, and Flea's accountant's brother-in-law. Wow, killing it.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Those are pretty good. Those are pretty big, bro. I feel like the guy on the left looks like he's like a soprano's extra. Yes. Yeah, yeah. He's got his slick back hair. He's really in the back. He's just like, what? So what? So we wrote the song. So what? The guy in the middle is slick back hair. He's just like, what? So what? So we wrote the song. So what? Yeah, well, what you gonna do?
Starting point is 01:12:26 As you know, the guy in the middle is so wavy, too. He got that long white hair, and his eyes are half open. That dude is high as fuck. You can tell. Oh, hell yeah. He grows. He's probably like, I knew this day would come. People wanted to fucking make fun of our pop band
Starting point is 01:12:39 with wave and rock influences. But look at us now. They love us already. I'm just saying that that man also probably like grows his own mushrooms. Like there's no way he hasn't been tripping since that song was popular. Oh yeah, right, right.
Starting point is 01:12:54 Until now. All the pros grow their own. Just consistently. Yeah. I mean, and if you're having the thought that like there might be subways in my mind in the year 1984. Holy fuck, you're ahead of the game.
Starting point is 01:13:04 Yo, yeah. Anyways, you can't buy that kind of insight, you know, you can't. Definitely not for any number of potato skins in the world. Anyway, shout out, J.M. Shout out for a for media. Good, good website that still does journalism that wrote this wrote wrote a nice backgrounder on this one. Who did you guys picture in your head when you heard the story? What did you think the band was going to look like?
Starting point is 01:13:33 I don't know. I thought it was either going to be dudes who just recorded three songs and then stopped making music pretty quickly, or a one-man show kind of person. Ah, yeah. Show sort of thing. Who's like, I did everything. I played the synths, the keyboard and the guitar. All of it, man. That's a that's fucking plausible.
Starting point is 01:13:53 I got you some ways in my mind. They're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Jack, what did you think? I think it was a troll-a-lo-ga. Later, Jose. Roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll. With like a listening horn too. I think I pictured like old Johnny Rotten who's like, you know, kind of a piece of shit.
Starting point is 01:14:13 And so I pictured like kind of three versions of that guy for some reason. Yeah. No, this is the kind of thing where like those three guys are going to go back to their jobs. Like I bet one of them is like a teacher and they're like like, you know, I, I'm kind of famous on Reddit. Shut the fuck up, Mr. Spiegel. Shut the fuck up. Just get on with this potato skins class. Sophia, what a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist as always.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? So I am doing shows featuring for my friend Laura Peak at the laughing tap in Milwaukee this Friday and Saturday. Two shows each night. Come through. I will hug you and we can cry a little bit if you want later. But mostly I'll just be doing really funny comedy. So come through.
Starting point is 01:15:02 And if you want to check for more dates, I'm at TheSophia on Instagram and everywhere. Sophia spelled S-O-F-I-Y-A. Wonderful. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Other than the podcast where I have to listen to a grown man say that he has gonorrhea repeatedly. I've never heard of that. What is that? I have gonorrhea. Anyway, a work of media I've been enjoying is I got trolled by two amazing Slavic women
Starting point is 01:15:32 that drove to see me in Chicago. They asked to take a photo with me after we hung out. They're like, hey, follow us so we can send you the photo. They post the photo. It's a selfie of the three of us. And the caption is, this woman ask us for a picture. Is that not the best, funniest troll of all time? That's your course. I fucking reposted it immediately.
Starting point is 01:15:58 So, yeah. Anyway, shout out to them. Thank you for that. Miles Gray, where can people find you? Is there work in media you've been enjoying? No. Uh, miles gray, where can people find you? Is there working media you've been enjoying? No, uh, God, uh, where am I at miles of gray? Where they got, uh, at symbols. Obviously, uh, I'm with Sophia on four 20 day fiance. Check us out over there.
Starting point is 01:16:15 And, uh, with Jack talking basketball on miles and Jack got mad. Booskies. Uh, I tweet I like is from, uh, Lacey Mosley. We love you at Diva Lacey. She's currently in Ireland, uh, in Ireland on shooting a new show. But she tweeted, quote, I went on a great date in Ireland yesterday. No, seriously. I got to fast-track this to a wedding in two weeks.
Starting point is 01:16:36 You all mailed me them honey packs, Sierra's Prayer, and some Eye of Newt, because me and Liam got 30 minutes. Not Liam. It's Liam. It's specific. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Work of media I've been enjoying. Go check out our fucking YouTube channel.
Starting point is 01:17:01 We're doing, we're putting YouTube versions up. You can see what we look like. You can see some of the videos that we're making fun of. It's a lot of fun. YouTube.com slash at the Daily Zeitgeist Pod. Go check it out. It's fun. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We're going off to the information that we talked about
Starting point is 01:17:30 in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Myles, what song do you think people might enjoy? I think just some good instrumental music, but like takes you to like a time before our modern times. I think that's always it's nice because there's no lyrics here. So like all the textures will kind of put you in a different mental state because it doesn't sound like modern music. But guess what? This was made recently by really talented producer artist guys called John Carroll Kirby. And he's like produced
Starting point is 01:18:00 stuff for, you know, Solange and Frank Ocean, Con and M Moccasin, if you know Conn and Moccasin, also did something on Steve Lacy's last album. So he's like, you know, your favorite artists, probably favorite collaborator, kind of like one of those people who's like up in a lot of different stuff. But this track is really cool. It sounds like it's from, I don't know, like a lost, like, yacht rock B-side, like instrumental take, and it's from I don't know like a lost like yach rock B side like instrumental take and it's called Mates and it's by John Carroll Kirby two R's two L's All right, we will link off to that in the footnotes Hey guys is a production of I heart radio for more podcasts from my heart radio visit the I heart radio app Apple podcast or wherever
Starting point is 01:18:42 You find your favorite shows that's gonna do it for us this week we fucking made it it's the end of the week just barely we hope you have a good weekend yep go do something yeah give yourself a hug go hang with people who you find restorative yeah and yes well community yeah go go find a little community and go bowling with them. We'll be back on Monday morning to tell you some of the things that happened over the weekend and we will talk to you all then. Bye. Bye.
Starting point is 01:19:14 Hi, I'm Marie. And I'm Sydney. And we're MESS. Well, not a mess, but on our podcast called Mess, we celebrate all things messy. But the gag is, not everything is a mess. Sometimes it's just living. Yeah, things like JLo on her third divorce.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Living, girls' trip to Miami. Mess. Breaking up with your girlfriend while on Instagram Live. Living. Living. This kind of mess. Yeah. Well, you get it. Got Living. It's kind of mess. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:45 Well, you get it. Got it? Live, love, mess. Listen to Mess with Sydney Washington and Marie Faustin on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Chelsea Yandler here on Dear Chelsea. I am joined by my longtime illegitimate baby named Kevin Hart. We talk about his birth. We talk about his afterbirth.
Starting point is 01:20:07 We talk about his childhood, his adolescence, and that's pretty much where he is right now. What do you mean you don't think? No. What is going on with your legs that they need washing? It's your body. You wash your body, Chelsea. Your entire body. You don't pick and choose. I have hot spots. There's harassment coming from one of us to the other person. You to me.
Starting point is 01:20:28 Yeah, usually, that's true. I'm not gonna lie. And you take the abuse very well. You almost seem to enjoy it. Well, yeah, I mean, I've just grown accustomed to it. Right, okay. That's what I wanted to say. Yeah, that's what it is.
Starting point is 01:20:39 Find Dear Chelsea on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, Beau. Hey, Matt. Can you believe we have yet another very special episode coming up? This one is very close to my heart. We'll be joined by friend,
Starting point is 01:20:54 the star of the upcoming Wicked film, the one and only Ariana Grande, will be here in the studio with us. We hope this episode of Last Coach gives you so much joy. The episode is dropping this Wednesday, my birthday, November 6th. And of course, please go see Wicked when it comes out. November 22nd, don't miss it.
Starting point is 01:21:10 Listen to Last Culture East us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey friends, I'm Jessica Capshaw. And this is Camilla Luddington. And we have a new podcast, Call It What It Is. You may know us from Graceland Memorial, but did you know that we are actually besties in real life? And as all besties do, we navigate the highs
Starting point is 01:21:31 and lows of life together. Big or small, we are there. And now here we are opening up the friendship circle to you. Listen to Call It What It Is on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. This is Courtney Thorne-Smith, Laura Layton, and Daphne Zuniga. On July 8th, 1992, apartment buildings with pools were never quite the same as Melrose Place was introduced to the world. We are going to be reliving every hookup, every scandal, and every single wig removal together. So listen to Still the Place on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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