The Daily Zeitgeist - The Bob Dylan-To-Aziz Ansari Impression Zeitline 6/16: Trump's Parade, Rep. Melissa Hortman, Iran, Israel

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

In this edition of The Bob Dylan-To-Aziz Ansari Impression Zeitline, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Trump's military parade, the assassination of a Minnesota state representative, I...srael vs. Iran and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let's fucking go! Do we, we need a cold open? Well, yeah. And I mean, plus look at Miles's sour puss face. He's all mad. It's all fucked. It's all fucked. I can't even reference that anymore.
Starting point is 00:00:18 I can't even reference the best way to say everything's fucked up. Why did- Oh, fucked up now. Why did entertainment, one of entertainment's most fucked up vile predators take up? It's all fucked up now. Fuck I'm going to do now. It's all fucked up.
Starting point is 00:00:34 Fuck I'm going to do now. Fuck I'm going to do now. I guess I'll just jump off this building and run off to the alley. Fuck I'm going to do now. I like how he puts different emphasis on all the second time. All fucked up now. It's all fucked up now. Fuck I'ma do now. I like how he puts different emphasis on all the second time. It's all fucked up now. It's all fucked up now. You thought only some of it was fucked up now?
Starting point is 00:00:51 It's all fucked up now. Ah, it's all fucked up now. There's a, God said it's all fucked up now. There's a, do you wanna do? There's a, do you wanna do? There's a, do you wanna do? There's a, do you wanna do? From about one to five.
Starting point is 00:01:03 There's a, do you wanna do? There's a, do you wanna do? There's a, do you wanna do? There's a, do you wanna do? There's a, do you wanna do about 1 to 5, if you don't fuck them down. Yes, yes, I'll fuck them down. Who is that character? Weird Jay Leno? Jay, it's like a 6-year-old guy played by Adam Sandler or Jay Leno. Is Jay Leno doing Sandler? Yeah, it's all fucked up now. Honestly, the squeaky tank treads is actually the best thing we could have hoped for.
Starting point is 00:01:32 Of all the specifics to really underline that this is a spectacular failure, it's the fact that no one's talking while it goes squeaky wheels through a dead silent city. And then like just load like three of seven rows having people in them and not like lined with people like people sprinkled throughout. I remember seeing a very nervous looking man with his hand over his chest and a like a red t-shirt and he had a pained grin. Or he's wincing, I don't know, it was very, it was an Bob Dylan lyric.
Starting point is 00:02:11 Yeah. I remember seeing. There's a man with a hand on his chest. The red vest. And the red vest with a pained look on his face. Woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo woo. Zim zim zim. on his face. I saw a man when it said damn dude. I'm a man.
Starting point is 00:02:33 What's going on? I want to say when Bob Dylan was in the disease. That's my underrated the Bob Bob Dylan to Aziz impression pipeline. Yeah. Camp Shane, one of America's longest running weight loss camps for kids, promised extraordinary results. Campers who began the summer in heavy bodies were often unrecognizable when they left. In a society obsessed with being thin,
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Starting point is 00:03:32 and re-examining the culture of fatphobia that enabled a flawed system to continue for so long. You can listen to all episodes of Camp Shame one week early and totally ad-free on iHeart True Crime Plus. So don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts and subscribe today. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm JR Martinez. I'm a U.S. Army veteran myself.
Starting point is 00:04:13 And I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage from Pushkin Industries and iHeart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daly, one of only 19 people to have received the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished
Starting point is 00:04:35 themselves by acts of valor going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature of courage and sacrifice. Listen to Medal of Honor on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network,
Starting point is 00:05:02 hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else. Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian Dr. Randall Williams and bestselling author and MeetE meat eater founder Stephen Rannella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here and I'll say it seems like the ice age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join
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Starting point is 00:06:00 Yes, sir. We are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner. It's just a compassionate choice to allow players
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Starting point is 00:06:49 Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple podcast. Hello the internet and welcome to this week trend edition of Dirt Island Inside Guys! Exactly, that's the right sound for this weekend. And what a weekend it was. My name is Jack O'Brien, that over there is mr. Miles gray. Yeah, it is Monday morning as we record this Israel may have started World War three
Starting point is 00:07:32 trying political assassinations are Now being like kind of normalized a little bit both in Iran But also we didn't these United States when Paul Palo Palos Pelosi was attacked with a hammer that didn't move the needle much. No. So it's been normalizing. But at least we are able to celebrate America again after a sick, sick parade. So like honoring dear leaders. It was it did seem a little under the weather, did not seem to be at full.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I'd say it was like, you know, people are like, I'm at like 90% right now. This is in the 30s. That was a straight tummy ache. I'm doing boo boo because my tummy hurts of a parade. But yeah, we'll talk about that. We'll get to all of that. But up first, Miles, we do like to get to We'll get all that shit more happen. But up first miles We do like to get to know each other a little bit better
Starting point is 00:08:28 Yeah, by holding hands making unblinking eye contact and telling each other something we think is underrated Something we think is overrated Miles is there something that you think is overrated? Yeah, I would say bringing in couples intimacy Exercises into our podcast recordings is a little little much I think that's purely for building intimacy amongst romantic couples I think with the locking eye contact and okay at least from what I've seen on reality shows they do that for couples Aside from that not not much. Not much. Not much was ever rated?
Starting point is 00:09:05 Yeah, yeah. Wait, no, no. What was I saying here? Let me scroll down to whatever I was gonna rant about. Oh, Father's Day. Father's Day? Come on, man. We only get one day, Miles. We ain't shit, man. We only get one day, man. We don't need this shit. At least we don't need it in this whatever this capacity is and I don't mean like obviously every like the very traditional Whatever America thinks Father's Day is I think is an absolute Fucking L is the dumbest shit ever like there was someone with a tweet like along the lines of it's like well if my dad Isn't barbecuing his golf on the boat. I don't know what to get him kind of shit of it's like, well, if my dad isn't barbecuing his golf on the boat,
Starting point is 00:09:45 I don't know what to get him kind of shit where it's like, okay. It reveals how rigid like we've been just to define fatherhood. Even it's like, well, if your dad, your boat golf or barbecue, I'm a boat. Are you a boat dad or a barbecue dad? I'm barbecue boat. That's me. I'm a barbecue boat. Not really into the golf, but I'm a barbecue boat. And just like seeing all this stuff, like every, it's funny because her match is like, what do you want for, for fuzz? I'm like, I really don't care. Like I just,
Starting point is 00:10:17 like, let's go eat. Let's all hang out and go see my dad and we can, that, that's fine. I just want a little time to maybe like DJ. And that's, I would call that a success and like what about the DJ dads yeah exactly I'm a barbecue boat DJ okay but it's just funny because like so many listicles are like basically like here's the for the grill master in your life here's for the golf freak for for the cigar guy. Just please, you know, there's like other hobbies. Like, you know, baseball still applies here. Sports, basketball, but just the distillation down to barbecue, boat, golf.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Hey, speaking of distillation, what kind of whiskey did you drink on Father's Day? Oh God. Brother. Jesus Christ. I had, I had Ethiopian food. That's what I wanted for, yeah. I'm just, I was just loading up on injera. So yeah, all that to say Father's Day, I think just corporate America, just fucking leave
Starting point is 00:11:16 us alone, man. We know how to like honor the people in our lives the way we want to without you saying like, which one of these four archetypes are you? Yeah. And yeah. I am both. a barbecue boat. You are a barbecue boat. I'm a barbecue boat DJ. My only dream. Just get a boat, man. Just have a boat. I don't really have a body of water that I want to go to, but just having that shit on my trailer. Yeah. Just in your driveway. So I can hop in your boat.
Starting point is 00:11:41 So I have an excuse to wear my boat shoes everywhere. That'd be so sick to have a boat. You just have permanently parked in your driveway and you just kind of hop in your boat. So I have an excuse to wear my boat shoes everywhere. That'd be so sick to have a boat. You just have permanently parked in your driveway and you just kind of hop in it on Sundays and just like kind of turn the turn sports radio on. It's where I hide out. Yeah. I keep the cover over the top.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Jesus, there's a Boston bombing reference in there. Dad's smoking weed in his boat again. Jesus, how do you know all that smoke coming out from the car? Coming out from under the tarp. Yeah. Yeah. And that is, it does give a great place for bombers to hide. Isn't that where they found that one kid? Wasn't he like in the back of a boat? He's hiding in a boat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:21 All right. My overrated is how well thought out our decisions are. Um, I'm going back to, I'm going back to the coal gas study. There's a, there's a new, the, the New Yorker let Malcolm Gladwell write an article for them. That's, uh, just, it's just a book review, but, um, he, he kind of goes back to, you know, he has his obsession of like, that he's often gotten wrong of like,
Starting point is 00:12:50 why do people commit crimes? In Tipping Point, he was like, this broken windows policing, where they just like kind of fix the windows and arrest people for hopping turnstiles. And it's over. You got it. And then, so in this article, he's like, so it turns out because that was deemed unconstitutional,
Starting point is 00:13:12 it was made illegal and crime kept going down in New York after we had given credit to the stop and frisk policing. A lot of crime, a lot of violent crime is not like planned out. It's not done with any rational part of the mind, but the entire carceral system is designed with the assumption that like punishment and prison will appeal. Like it's like trying to like create this like rational bargaining chip essentially in people's with like the thinking part of people's mind. So, I mean, the bummer of the article is that the clear answer is like gun control
Starting point is 00:13:50 and getting guns out of people's hands. And they're just like, yeah, but that's not gonna happen. So like maybe broken windows policing. So more people are on the streets and there's also training and like community based solutions that all work better than the, you know, police being there to arrest you to put you in jail so that you rationally decide ah, it's not worth it, which just like we've seen time and time again, like doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:14:19 But yeah, it's just like kind of a rethinking of like why people commit crimes or self harm. Like all the evidence suggests like the vast majority is happening because people are like making a decision that they wouldn't make 30 seconds later. But it's just like not how we think about that shit. It's like that easy access to things that can do untold damage. Maybe the hard bit there. Yeah, the heart. Yeah, the brutal. Maybe we need more cops though. Maybe we need more cops.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Maybe we need more cops with guns. Yeah, exactly. Rather than take away the things that are doing the killing. Yeah. It's just wild how so many times you have these studies and like, well, well, since we can't do that. Right. Yeah, straight up. That's how the article is like and the author is basically like gun controls amount starter in the United States So we have to like move on to these other solutions But it's it's wild but like come on that is glad well
Starting point is 00:15:15 That is the obvious and clear thing that would you know help turn this around just isn't there All right miles with something you think is underrated underrated How fucking hard it is to get a toddler to sleep in a fucking bed? Oh, no is my newest thing that is causing me severe sleep deprivation where I'm losing my grip on Everything I'm losing my grip on my mouse. I can't even use the computer good because I'm so tired But the guy shot is like almost two and a half He can now he's Ethan hunt fully doing his own stunts getting out of the crib like fucking gracefully
Starting point is 00:15:55 It's wild he will ninja up here like he can even knows how to open the door like quietly it this dude He's got fucking like espionage skills already. Yeah. Yeah, So obviously the thing is like, okay, he's ready for the toddler, but you the crib if he's getting out, you know, time to move on. The way this dude somehow taps into new forms of like sources of energy when it's like two hours well past when he's supposed to be asleep and he's just like telling himself like, yes, for real. I'm like and I'm trying to think I'm like I'm going to sleep too like come on let's go to sleep in here. Anyway all this to say is I am looking for unsolicited advice it's solicited now. Please. Because I've done the thing like put him down walk out and when he comes
Starting point is 00:16:44 back out very calmly, be like, okay, we're going back to bed, not really entertaining it, not doing a whole song and dance about it, like, it's time for bed, it's time for bed. This dude is, he's got the heart of a champion. I'm gonna say. That's the only thing I try and look at positively.
Starting point is 00:16:59 I'm like, yo, this motherfucker ain't going down ever. So good for you. But yeah, this has been so hard, and it's like one of those things as a parent there's so much shit on the internet and so many other like especially now with social media so many people can give their anecdotes on like how this has transpired for them. There's so many like, oh my god, it was so easy. Like they don't even get out of their bed. And I'm like, I this isn't this isn't him. He used to sleep really well. So anyway, I'm just saying any Zygang parents out there,
Starting point is 00:17:28 I have a toddler who will not stay in the bed, gets out the room. I need I need some other tactics. I'm not trying to go. This one where you lay down next to them on like on the floor. So you're so they like know you're there and then they go to sleep. You fall asleep. You wake up, they're gone. You go to your bed and they're in your spot. Oh, I've not had that yet.
Starting point is 00:17:51 I did that last night. I got him to go, he went to sleep at 11 last night. Wow. And that was off of me being like, okay, well I'm gonna sleep next to you. Because before I was like, okay, you wanna rub your back? He's like, rub my back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:02 And then I was like, well, you know what? I'm going to sleep. I was trying to model some behavior I'm like well this is what we do we're sleeping I'm not even touching you like look you're gonna if you look at dad he's out and then he fell asleep then then fucking two hours later I think he like rustled realized he wasn't like in his crib he was like on his like new bed and he just came out of the room and was like, I'm free. I'm out. Yeah. So anyway, if I sound weirder than usual this week, just know that's what I, that's what I got on my plate.
Starting point is 00:18:31 That's a lot. You know, like everything else. Gestures broadly. Yeah, that sucks. That's a, that's a really tough period for sure. I'm always just telling myself it's temporary. I've gone through longer streaks of terrible sleep deprivation due to my own behaviors as a young person So I I feel like I'm equipped to be able to stay up. I'm just like I'm just looking for some for some
Starting point is 00:18:54 Here look at something. Yeah, it's different because it's out of your control. They're monsters They're mine. They just they don't give a fuck well, then you have to do that whole Zen Buddhist thing where I'm like the you know, the the Crocodile only knows to bite that is what the crocodile You know what I mean? like in the same way like the child only knows to stay up and be rebellious and I have to like then Because a lot of the times you just want to be like just please listen to me My god, you're gonna get so much conflicting advice. Oh, yeah, there already, I mean, again, from the onset of this child's life, from birth, I've always just known to be like, you know your kid,
Starting point is 00:19:30 you do what works with how you understand your child versus like, because we used to get stressed being like, the book says to do this and it's not working, versus like, if that's not working, let's figure out what does based on what we know of our little baby. Our little baby. Every little baby. Speaking of the baby, my underrated is the Labooboo doll is coming. Specifically, the creepiness of the Labooboo doll. It's like the new hot shit with children
Starting point is 00:20:02 and like some adults. Like it's like a trendy. Yeah. I know more adults that are with the Labooboo than the children. Yeah. They have like, they're ugly, like I would say. And they have like sharp teeth. They seem, so my theory on the Labooboo doll, if you don't know what it is,
Starting point is 00:20:20 it's a doll that's made out of China that is like blowing up. People are like traveling to like try and buy these up. It has all the hallmarks of like a Beanie Baby Tickle Me Elmo craze. There's like fights at the stores and like just one day I didn't know what they were and like two days later I'm like both hearing about them like from my kids from my wife Like seeing them just around like yeah on people's bags and shit Just like everywhere but I think so my seven-year-old swears up and down that when one of like the older cool kids At their school brought one to school. He saw it like open its eyes and give him a creepy smile. Which he's definitely like the imaginative one.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Wait, so this is you saw Miss Krabappel and Principal Skinner in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me. Yeah, baby looked up. Ralph Wiggum? Opened his eyes, gave creepy smile. Hell yeah. But I think, so this is my theory. So, Becca Crack, we wrote about this, like, there's a real black market for dolls that are supposed to be haunted. Oh, yeah. Creepy dolls is like a big thing. Like, and then, you know, there's also the Halloween costume test where,
Starting point is 00:21:46 And then, you know, there's also the Halloween costume test where, you know, creepy doll is a costume you see pretty regularly on Halloween. And then just like unending number of movies about creepy dolls, like there's the campy ones that are like Chucky and M3 again, but then like for it, like Annabelle Conjuring movies, that's just like those are, if you haven't seen those, those are like creepy doll movies. Like that's, it's a haunted doll. And I think that like having a doll that like just comes pre haunted, like kind of,
Starting point is 00:22:15 like it's not explicitly how they're selling it, but like when you compare it to like previous ones, I think that there is a, like that that's part of the appeal. And like, yes. Yeah. Do you think with the people, what is it about a creepy doll that people like, I don't, I don't, the last fucking thing I want is a creepy fucking doll. Like, I'll throw that shit in the fire. Get it. The I don't give a fuck. I don't want it. I'm not interested in it. I don't know. I don't, I don't know. It just like, what do you think is something that, that, I mean't know. It just like appeals to something that,
Starting point is 00:22:49 that I mean we've been, we've had creepy dolls on our altars for years. But yeah, I don't know. I don't know if this is how it's being marketed, but I do think that it is like how kids are like talking about it and like marketing it to each other. Just this like kind of aggressive, scary. Like if you look at this thing, you're like this thing wants to kill you, right? I mean, I don't get that. You don't get that? The sharp teeth? They have like this stupid gritty, it feels like it's on purpose ugly.
Starting point is 00:23:16 You know what I mean? It's like ugly cute. But I think the other part is like this is just along the anything with like Beanie Babies, Pokemon or whatever. This is just, it activates the completionist collector in a consumer. Oh, for sure. Cause it's like, bro, I can't think I'm just fucking rocking with one fucking Labooboo. Well, and the really smart thing they do is you buy them in blind boxes.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Blind boxes. Yep. So you buy a box and then there's the big experience of opening it being like did I get the one I wanted and If you didn't you know that that's obviously a major genre of social media video now, but like also if you didn't get the one you wanted then Got it. Gotta go back gotta go back to work and start You know like that's fucked up cuz like even crack, you know, that's just hitting if you buy Start like that's fucked up cuz like even crack, you know, that's just hitting if you buy
Starting point is 00:24:11 Where's like trying to make a fiend at you and they're like you got bass all Sorry, sorry. This was a placebo. That's right If you want to come back to the plug and buy it, you know re-up go ahead I wonder if you ever tried that Just like people really box. Oh, you want a spider bag? Okay, let's see what's in there. I mean, that that does work. The like randomness like that. That is one of the rules of like online games that are addictive. I guess the crack itself is addictive enough, but that would be a good way to like any drug, right? Like a lot of the time you're chasing that
Starting point is 00:24:43 first high. Yeah, like with the drug. but even even when you become dependent on something you know there's a consistency to what it's delivering to your body but I feel like in these these like blind boxes are just the fuck and like this is in video games too there's so many things like this random chance like this is why I'd like you know the EU is trying to fucking be like this is gambling we can't you know the EU is trying to fucking be like this is gambling Like i'm not the fuck y'all are talking about. Yeah. Um, but anyway the labooboo Labooboo is coming for all of our asses. Unfortunately
Starting point is 00:25:15 I think all it took was for me to see an adult friend of mine have like a few and I went. Mm. Okay That's okay for you to write that friend off or for you to be like, all right, here we go. No, for me to be like, I already know this isn't for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're like, have you seen these? I'm like, what is it? What are you talking about? And I'm like, oh, you're talking about little toys.
Starting point is 00:25:33 No. No. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Sorry. Sorry. That is not my type of dad. I am not a little toy dad.
Starting point is 00:25:41 No, no, no, no. No, I'm a barbecue boat. I'm a barbecue boat. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about the weekend. Camp Shane, one of America's longest running weight loss camps for kids, promised extraordinary results.
Starting point is 00:26:00 Campers who began the summer in heavy bodies were often unrecognizable when they left. In a society obsessed with being thin, it seemed like a miracle solution. But behind Camp Shane's facade of happy, transformed children was a dark underworld of sinister secrets. Kids were being pushed to their physical and emotional limits as the family that owned Shane turned a blind eye. Nothing about that camp was right. It was really actually like a horror movie.
Starting point is 00:26:28 In this eight episode series, we're unpacking and investigating stories of mistreatment and re-examining the culture of fat phobia that enabled a flawed system to continue for so long. You can listen to all episodes of Camp Shame one week early and totally ad-free on iHeart True Crime Plus.
Starting point is 00:26:46 So don't wait. Head to Apple Podcasts and subscribe today. The Medal of Honor is the highest military decoration in the United States. Recipients have done the improbable, showing immense bravery and sacrifice in the name of something much bigger than themselves. This medal is for the men who went down that day. It's for the families of those who didn't make it. I'm JR Martinez.
Starting point is 00:27:11 I'm a US Army veteran myself, and I'm honored to tell you the stories of these heroes on the new season of Medal of Honor, Stories of Courage, from Pushkin Industries, and I Heart Podcast. From Robert Blake, the first black sailor to be awarded the medal, to Daniel Daley, one of only 19 people to have received
Starting point is 00:27:31 the Medal of Honor twice. These are stories about people who have distinguished themselves by acts of valor, going above and beyond the call of duty. You'll hear about what they did, what it meant, and what their stories tell us about the nature The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck. This podcast looks at a West available nowhere else.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Each episode, I'll be diving into some of the lesser known histories of the West. I'll then be joined in conversation by guests such as Western historian, Dr. Randall Williams, and bestselling author and meat eater founder Stephen Rinella. I'll correct my kids now and then where they'll say when cave people were here and I'll say it seems like the Ice Age people that were here didn't have a real affinity for caves. So join me starting Tuesday, May 6th, where we'll delve into stories of the West and come to understand how it helps inform the ways
Starting point is 00:28:46 in which we experience the region today. Listen to The American West with Dan Flores on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Clayton English. I'm Greg Glod. And this is season two of the World on Drugs Podcast. Sir, we are back. In a big way. In a very big way. Real people, real perspectives. This is kind of star-studded a little bit, man. We got Ricky Williams, NFL player, Heisman Trophy winner.
Starting point is 00:29:12 It's just a compassionate choice to allow players all reasonable means to care for themselves. Music stars Marcus King, John Osborne from Brothers Osborne. We have this misunderstanding of what this quote unquote drug thing is. Benny the Butcher. Brent Smith from Shinedown. We got B-Real from Cypress Hill. NHL enforcer Riley Cote.
Starting point is 00:29:34 Marine Corvette. MMA fighter Liz Caramouche. What we're doing now isn't working and we need to change things. Stories matter and it brings a face to them. It makes it real. It really does. It makes it real. Listen to does. It makes it real. Listen to new episodes of the War on Drugs podcast season two.
Starting point is 00:29:49 On the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts are wherever you get your podcasts. And to hear episodes one week early and ad free with exclusive content, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcast. And we're back. We're back. And we're back. So yeah, I mean, big, big showdown, big, the op, the Barbenheimer of the weekend was Trump's parade versus the no Kings protests Versus Israel declaring war on Iran. Yeah, that was also a thing. Which yeah, which one which God take
Starting point is 00:30:36 also assassination Oh my political assassination Minnesota and that was all that shit happened within like 36 hours Yeah, it was just like Saturday morning was fucking crazy. Yeah, you're like what happened? Oh boy. Yeah, the guy and the Guy posing as a cop wearing there's too much fucking shit on me latex mask. It looks like a Walter White I think he's wearing a Walter White. Well, I'll ask yeah, man Well, we'll get to him. What's that? mask. Yeah, man. It, uh, we'll get to him. What's that guy? What's, what's the character's name? Frank Havoc. Frank Havoc. I think. Yeah. From, I think you should leave. Not funny. Uh, but let's talk about Trump's parade. Uh, this was his big, it was, it was
Starting point is 00:31:17 celebrating the army and the army's birthday, but it was really, we know what it was all about. Yeah. Celebrating your fucking, your micro ego, sir. That's all this thing was. I remember, obviously in the lead up, we're like, what the fuck? He's going to have like ICBM launchers, like on the street, fucking tanks, howitzers, troops and all kinds of dude. I don't know. I guess aside from it being canceled, that probably would have been the biggest L
Starting point is 00:31:48 Yeah, this is the best way for this to be an L was the way it went down Saturday, which was so poorly attended such little enthusiasm Marco Rubio almost dying trying to fight off publicly yawning on the stage because cameras run him he did that thing where you know what you try And hide a yawn and you like almost break your job. Yeah. Yeah, your jaws breaking in your eyes are watering Making noise trying to fight off a yawn It felt like that thing where like it feels like a When you're a kid and like there's like that one kid who's the cool kid and everyone just does whatever the cool kid wants because they have no mind of their own even if they do something.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Everyone's like, well, we got to do what Donald wants. I guess go to this grandpa parade with no energy, no excitement at all. And they're always like, no, this is really cool to be here right now. He was almost nodding off too. He looked not pleased, but also like it would have been even worse attended. As we talked about last week, like the, had it not been for like the reporting that was like, they're not even going to his parade. They're not even going to your parade,
Starting point is 00:32:57 sir. Like all the fucking GOP politicians who were like, yeah, I'm not going, man. What are you all up to this weekend? We're not going to that shit. So, sir, we have a disturbing report for you. But anyways, the White House, obviously, as they do, claim 250,000 people showed up, reportedly far fewer than the expected 200,000, while the No Kings protests across the country drew more than 5 million people. And that, I don't know, man, they were everywhere. I don't know that they were counting everyone because... I mean, they said the estimates were between 5 and 11 million people nationwide, which is, you know, some are like, this may be the largest protest in five and eleven million people nationwide.
Starting point is 00:33:45 This may be the largest protest in American history in terms of just pure turnout. But that parade, right? I was out there, there was a local one I went to in the valley, a demonstration on Saturday. Fucking people screaming. Like losing it and you know, just you know, yeah your cheeky meme posters everything like that But you juxtapose that energy with what the fucking crowd Yeah, we got a place the squeaky wheel no joke this isn't like Some kind of thing where they're like, oh this you guys are playing a thing from like way before like way before when they're practicing this is in the middle of the parade the thick of it there's old tanks like from
Starting point is 00:34:32 the World War two rolling down the street and it literally sounds like that scene I'm saving Private Ryan when they're throwing the sticky bombs on the German tanks it's just creaky. And listen to this crowd too. I think I heard a clap. Can we get that clap? Here's a clap. There was it. There was. There was. It was it was this one. Yeah. It's it sounds like it's kind of like start something here. It sounds like someone got off their riding mower to talk to a neighbor really quick. Yeah. Yeah. The, so that scene in Saving Private Ryan, like the whole thing that is like so effective about it is that they, this
Starting point is 00:35:20 invasion is happening into this small town where they're like basically hiding out it's quiet like it's dead quiet because Everybody's hiding and like nobody, you know, so you just hear the tanks coming and like the squeak on the wheel This is in the midst of a fucking parade Parade but there's a quarter million people allegedly. Yeah, that's so wild Where there's a quarter million people allegedly. Yeah, that's so wild. Good fucking God. Echoing around. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:48 We did get the impromptu, in quotes, rendition of Happy Birthday. When they're hitting people with cattle prods, probably. Fucking sing right now. He's fucking losing it because the tanks were too squeaky. He asked if we could WD-40 them. He doesn't understand old machinery. Yeah, whatever. There's that Stephen Chung, one of his propaganda mouthpieces, like, oh my God, there's so many
Starting point is 00:36:13 people there. No, there fucking wasn't, dude. And I feel so bad for you that you have to fucking say thousands of people is 250,000 people just because your life depends on it. Yeah, there the everything about it was pretty pretty sad. The appearance on Fox though from that woman, Rebecca Koffler. Yeah, that was I think that sums it up. Like that was my by far the best moment of the parade is somebody who just came through to Fox and was just there to talk about why this worked and represent the energy that this administration was bringing to this parade. And I think the clip speaks for itself, Miles. I think we should just
Starting point is 00:37:00 let her cook. Let Rebecca Koffler cook. Let Rebecca Koffler cook up another mimosa to drink. Here we go. With us now is former Defense Intel Agency officer Rebecca Koffler. Rebecca, what are your thoughts tonight on the incredible- Sorry, real quick. What are the names of these two anchors? I'll tell you, this guy on the left is not Lucas Tomlinson.
Starting point is 00:37:25 He's not. She's going to call this man the wrong name. And look at this face already. When they they punch her in for her to for her hit, look at her la boo boo ass smile she's got on right now. Boo boo esk. Yeah, giant smile. Teeth flying out in all different directions.
Starting point is 00:37:49 I'm powered by right aid champagne. Here she goes. Shout out to right. A vodka, by the way, that was my that was my shit when I when I had when I was in my worst lowest point right. Right. A vodka. six dollars, man. Yikes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah, that's- We saw her tonight from the commander in chief on the army's 250th birthday. I am so excited about Emily and Lucas Tomlinson. Lucas, first of all, this man is black that she's referring to. Lucas Tomlinson is not black. Yeah. she's not I thought for a second. I was like that must be another black man on Fox, right? She's just doing like and there you are, but no she's so gone. She's like this black
Starting point is 00:38:40 Doing the head turn from the black and white. Everybody, like, this is incredible. Finally, the United States is back. I want to really thank all of our Army, Navy, and Air Force officers who are the same. So that's where I'm like, wait, did something happen? Yeah. This goes on for another minute because right now, you know they're just panicked in that fucking director's booth. They're like, get her the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:39:11 They cut back to the people, the interviewers, and they're like, yeah, so they just keep trying to like, hit her, but she's a fucking freight train. This is her getting thank you. This is her getting. Thank you to write off the fucking broadcast Thank you, thank you god damn He was about to say We're up against the break. Thank you. Thank you. God damn. He was about to say, for real. She's so, it is so wild because people, they were clocking on her Twitter.
Starting point is 00:39:56 She posted a picture of some weird ass champagne and was like, they just moved my Fox news hit back an hour or so. I guess I'll have another champagne as I wait celebrating. Yeah. Oh, so it wasn't okay good there are parts of that where like we were watching it before we started recording and Brian the editor and I were like are we like can we laugh at this because like it could be somebody who's had like suffered some manner of no no no no no okay good have a stroke like live on air that. And also Fox News with their ableism,
Starting point is 00:40:26 I doubt they would ever allow somebody on their network who they're like, someone with different ability. No, no, no, no, no, no. Get the drunk lady. Only get the drunk CIA person on. That's what she is, a former CIA agent. Former CIA and current Mimosa champion, current practicing alcoholic who let's come on.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Come on, Rebecca. I just want to say, um, all right. So shout out to that. Uh, meanwhile, the rest of America, like across the country, um,. LA had the biggest. Unsurprisingly. Yeah, for many obvious and good reasons. But they were everywhere. I mean, there were protests in Alaska. I don't know, where else were we seeing?
Starting point is 00:41:18 If there was a place where there were people who have heard of Donald Trump, they were like, yeah, I'd rather not have that. They were out. Yeah. Like every state. There's not like, yeah, I'd rather not have that. They were out. Every state, there's not a single place there wasn't. There were like 13 marches in like Wyoming, okay? It was really, really, really wild to see. And again, very peaceful
Starting point is 00:41:39 until the cops started being violent freaks. The cops didn't seem peaceful. They seemed policeful. They seemed ready to fucking trigger finger. It was a policeful protest. Absolutely. And it was to the point where there were anchors from NBC and ABC who were just sort of like,
Starting point is 00:41:58 wow, embedded in the protest. Wow, this is a really peaceful protest. And then out of nowhere, some fucking maniac who commutes from Oxnard to be LAPD, right? We're just like move mother just like shove a guy and like my partner Yeah, I was like kind of confused in the background. Yeah, they were even just like this is a lot We're just walking with people. I don't know if this is necessary We're just walking with people. I don't know if this is necessary
Starting point is 00:42:32 But sadly there are also some like violent moments like in Salt Lake City a protester was killed by a member of the peacekeeping team Who was he's keeping can add another person in the crowd believed to have had a rifle. Hmm Then like, you know, someone got like, you know people a guy who drove through a crowd of people. I forget what state that was. I mean, this wasn't without some wild shit because if you remember, I don't know if you remember on Friday, the right online was like, this thing's going to turn into a violent. I don't know what they were trying to do. I think maybe they were trying to prepare, uh, like right wing audiences for any sort of breakout of like chaos to be like, this is them trying to do the
Starting point is 00:43:06 revolution right now. They're trying, they're going to do the revolution. There was a lot of like, they're going to do the revolution tomorrow on no Kings day. They're going to do the revolution with, uh, I want to go back to brunch signs in their hands. Uh, yeah, that was, oh man. I mean, again, it's, we hold the fucking protesters to such a high standard. It's like, I, I don't know. Like we, yeah, there were some bad signs, but there were like some great signs. I don't care. Just like, yeah, just like going to one that was like close to our house. Like I had our seven year old. So like,
Starting point is 00:43:41 we just like stopped by and like just seeing other people who like live around us, who I like recognize or know who are like outraged. It's just like affirming to be like, yeah, everybody thinks this sucks, you know? And- There's an older dude who lives in the building is me, bro, he was, I was on, I had one of those moments too. I said, oh shit. Yeah. That's you. I had one of those moments too. I said, oh shit.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Yeah. That's you. Yeah, some of the older people who I would have assumed, like, you know, when you see like 30% of the people in your neighborhood voted for Trump, like I'm looking at the older people, you know? Right. And like, definitely it was some old people,
Starting point is 00:44:19 but not all old people, you know? No, but it was some kind, it was wild though, to see just like how sort of diverse, like how spread across the ideological spectrum people were, because you had you had your free Palestine people. You had people who were talking about universal health care, people for DACA, like really specific things that all intertwine with what the president is doing and what this administration stands for. And then you definitely had the people of like, like, no, I'm not joking.
Starting point is 00:44:47 I saw multiple if Kamala won, we would be at brunch. And I was like, Oh, my sweet child. That's seed. It. Okay. Well, hey, you're out here. That's step one. That's step one.
Starting point is 00:45:02 And then maybe we can educate ourselves on what liberation looks like for all people and how we need to hold our leaders accountable for that. But yeah, it was, again, huge fucking turnout, which Trump absolutely hated because he's now saying he wants to ramp up ICE raids in cities like New York, Chicago, LA, which had, again, pretty big turnouts for while his little birthday was going on. Yeah. I mean, when you think about the budget that was spent over this weekend on getting those protesters out, like I went to one and like made a cool $2,000, you know, $1,000 a head. Oh, that's it.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Yeah. Yeah. What were you pulling? Which is George Soros is George Soros is cousin. Oh, you got to get better agents. My my reps get me at least five grand. Wow. Yeah. You got five grand, six grand, six grand if I hold a sign, 10 grand if I hold a sign and post on me. Damn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I mean, yeah, I got I got the wrong. I got the wrong protestor agent. I wonder if they're looking at that being like, huh, the people who are like, they're all being paid to go out there. Right. I'm like, and how come y'all didn't, but I mean, I'm sure you would have heard about it if they were handing out money to any old motherfuckers to get out there. But again, that's their time-honored sort of propaganda tactic to be like, these people actually aren't outraged. There's nothing to
Starting point is 00:46:28 be outraged about. They're paid to pretend that everything is falling apart around them. Adam Lickman Yeah. So I'm hoping this is like, you know, I have to imagine a lot of people were heartened to be like, oh, everybody else, like, there's a lot of people or there's a lot of us who are outraged by this, you know, not all for the same reasons, not all with the same exact politics, but and hopefully this is just the beginning, you know, and makes it harder and harder for the people who support Trump to just be like, you know, well, this is this is all made up. Yeah, you know, when you see your actual neighbor. Hopefully this is this is all made up. Yeah, you know, you see your actual neighbor
Starting point is 00:47:06 Hopefully this turns into like a little more. Yeah, I mean The I did the RSV peeing for the protest thing was a very odd move I did not I was like, you don't we don't need to do that You don't need you don't need to RSVP for a protest and you shouldn't be asking people to submit their information To be like and will you be there and can you to submit their information to be like, and will you be there? And can you give us your information to do that? Are you building like an address book for email distribution or is this just, you know, I think more cynical people are like-
Starting point is 00:47:36 With regrets. If you want to give your with regrets, we are going to need to collect your social security number. Can I get a plus one? Ooh. Let's just see how the RSVP shake out and then I'll let you know on the day. That's right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Camp Shane, one of America's longest running weight loss camps for kids, promised extraordinary results.
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Starting point is 00:52:30 Democratic lawmaker and their partner were wounded by gunshots that all seem to be perpetrated by, like we said, guy in a latex mask and the suspect Vance Bolter has been taken into custody fully dressed like a cop. It is like a car like too much fucking shit on me. An SUV outfitted with lights to outwardly appear as if it were like a law enforcement vehicle, because right now we're clearly in our, everybody's a cop era with that. That's what's so fucking scary.
Starting point is 00:53:05 I was going to talk about this on tomorrow's episode, but like the fucking, the tolerance for like ice in quote, just like armed groups with no outward, like credentials of any sort, just coming up and taking people away. Right. One of them has a police thing on their jacket and like that's just happening. Like people are being taken into unmarked cars by unmarked people wearing masks. That's why my whole thing is like, so if everybody's a cop then nobody's a cop. Right. You know? Or can we, are we cops too?
Starting point is 00:53:44 Or if everybody's a cop then I'm a cop too But where's the line here? Cuz I'm there there was definitely like moments where there were those I don't know if you probably saw him like in Boyle Heights were like those ice people like Crashed into a Mercedes and pulled a dude out of his car with his like wife and kid there He was an American citizen. Yeah, and then when then they just took off like when they're like, oh, maybe this guy isn't it And they're like, so who the fuck was that? Yeah. Who the fuck was that? There's another guy,
Starting point is 00:54:10 an American citizen who like got, you know, pulled out of work and like thrown up against a wall. And he was like, here's my fucking clip, like real ID, you know, the thing that like is good for travel. Yeah. Yeah. For travel. like I was born in East LA. They're like, oh yeah what hospital they took his real ID and What didn't give it back to him and didn't say who they were? so like Now now he's like without that now they now he's going to be fucking arrested if they if that happens to him again Because he doesn't have his real ID, because they fucking took it.
Starting point is 00:54:45 And like, again, nobody knows who they are. Yeah, yeah. This is, yeah, and I mean, the amount of like out of state license plates that I'm seeing in the city right now, it's wild. Like so many Arizona license plates, so many Texas. I mean, I get, they're saying that they're bringing law enforcement from like the region in,
Starting point is 00:55:02 but how many of these people, like who the fuck are these people? How many of these people like who the fuck are these people how many these people are Just like this guy Vance bolter who has a fucking LARP or police car Yeah, and is like yeah, man, I can play dress up too. Yeah and fucking get away with some wild shit Yeah, anyway, this guy was Absolutely, like you couldn't be more MAGA than this fucking guy was
Starting point is 00:55:23 Yeah, and the way that the news trickled out, like they were being real careful about it. They were like politically motivated. We're not sure. I mean, he was on the board of a thing that Governor Walz was like oversaw. And so we're not sure. He was like a fucking Trump voting minister who
Starting point is 00:55:48 who failed minister. Yeah, failed minister. Who like it was obvious, like from the start, they found a list of 70 potential targets in his car with Governor Walls, like on the list. Representative Ilhan Omar was on the list. Plus abortion providers and advocates. So it's like, yeah, we know what's going on here, but they were pretty kind of trickled out on that front. Like even as a manhunt is happening. Yeah. And there'd even be stuff like,
Starting point is 00:56:16 we spoke to his roommates and they're like, yeah, he's a big Trump guy. Yeah. And they're like, he really felt that abortion was like literal murder was kind of like his thing kind of a weird Vibe I guess But yeah, but everything about him is like fits this like profile of like your what it's like your religious extremist Also, you have fantasies about being some kind of soldier like he he started a private security firm
Starting point is 00:56:44 Yeah, but like it's all fantastic being some kind of soldier, like he started a private security firm. But like, it's all fantastic. Like there's like, there's one of the like, the sort of descriptions on like this sort of website or a page dedicated to his company said, quote, involved with security situations in Eastern Europe, Africa, North America, and the Middle East, including the West Bank, Southern Lebanon, and the Gaza Strip. Bolter brings a great security aspect forged by both many on-the-ground experiences combined with training by both private security firms and by people in the U.S. military. He has worked for the largest U.S. oil refining company, the world's largest food company based in Switzerland, and the world's largest food company based in Switzerland, and the world's largest convenience retailer based in Japan.
Starting point is 00:57:29 Now people have pointed out that he worked at 7-Eleven at one point. And that's why I think he's cryptically including this thing saying the world's largest, because 7-Eleven is the largest convenience retailer in Japan. Right. And I'm guessing he's trying to connect his employment at a 7-Eleven in the United States as if he was doing security for 7-Eleven. Sure. Holdings, broadly.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Yeah, yeah. The largest food company in Switzerland is Nestle. So I don't know, did you drink in Nestle quick or something to add that association? The US largest, or what is it? Exxon mobile? I don't anyway all that to say complete completely like in this other world where he has become the protector of all innocent people because he's fully Like just bought into this maga cult
Starting point is 00:58:16 Yeah, and just at a time when people are out here LARPing as or could be out here LARPing as operators You know like military fucking operators with like tactical gear and shit. Like this is just really scary. And yeah, I don't know. Like it just seems like it's easy to make the leap from like what this guy was the the lie he was trying to tell on his website. I will say like this is where AI is really going to come in handy.
Starting point is 00:58:45 They're going to help him write stuff like that, help people like him write a better paragraph about his made up background. You know, at least he wrote that drivel himself. And you can tell. Yeah. But again, we're fully in this like political violence as normal era now, you know, as of this recording, I think a lot of people are like, Trump hasn't even bothered to like reach out to Tim Walsh. Like everything that came out of the DOJ was
Starting point is 00:59:12 so politically neutral, like in terms of what's going on, obviously, because they're not going to cop to the fact that this is one of their supporters. Although the right-wing media immediately, like Mike Lee was like, whoa, this guy's this is what happens when leftists don't get their way. Yeah. And trying to cast aspersions on this guy and be like, this guy was a fucking leftist freak. Yeah, that's that that doesn't seem to be the case at all. Yeah. Elon Musk called him a violent leftist when it was like, he's going on a killing spree in the name of getting rid of abortion
Starting point is 00:59:48 and is a known Trump supporter. Anyways, fucking weird times. And abroad, Israel attacked Iran. So one of those things that it's like, man, when America did it in Iraq in their early aughts, it was like, man, this is probably going to be the start of bad shit, you know? And it just seems like this is now,
Starting point is 01:00:19 Israel seems to think that this is their right to like, you know, attack no matter what without uh, without, without provocation, just, just like we did. Um, yeah, this one was like, it's preventative. They, they were really close to having a nuclear weapon. Uh, weapons of mass destruction. I mean, if you look at the past intelligence on what happened, even Tulsi Gabbard was like, no, we do not believe that they have a nuclear weapon or close to it. That's Tulsi Gabbard saying that.
Starting point is 01:00:45 If they wanted to fucking get hockey up in there, they could have. But again, from all sort of accepted known facts about it, that wasn't the case. And this was just sort of like, oh no, they're just going for it now. They really think that they are able to now just attack Iran with impunity killing civilians there also While the US is like, oh we had nothing to do with that. We don't know anything about that I'm not sure about that. I yeah, I highly doubt that Especially for something. This is such an escalation To be like yeah. Yeah. Yeah, we didn't know anything about that
Starting point is 01:01:21 Now if you if that's true, then that means Donald Trump truly has no, this guy has no control over anything anymore. He's absolutely impotent. Or on the other side of that is he was working, he's like, okay, y'all do it, but we're going to act like we didn't have anything to do with it. We're going for the diplomatics. And just see where it goes from there. Yeah. It's very, very, very wild. And like I was just reading today in Al Jazeera, just how now that, you know, Iran has, you know, reciprocated with attacks in like directly in Tel Aviv that have like hit residential areas. Like a lot of people now are like, whoa, I didn't know it was going
Starting point is 01:01:57 to come to our doorstep. I thought it would be like other sort of acts of aggression where it's sort of limited to outside of our borders, not directly within it. Because yeah, I mean, like the fucking sites you're seeing of just from Iran and Israel, it's like hellscape, just seeing missiles flying down and striking buildings. It's really fucked up. Yeah. And definitely like endangering the lives of their own people, like in Israel, like it's just...
Starting point is 01:02:24 Just quite a projection, right? Because like the, you know, there's a lot of military infrastructure embedded inside downtown Tel Aviv. Right. To be like, oh, interesting. Huh. A lot of projection happening, it seems. But yeah, it's terrifying times.
Starting point is 01:02:42 You know, a lot of civilians have been killed in Tehran. And the idea like Trump seems to approach diplomacy is like a thing to use like, like he promised that they would like bring about a ceasefire if like that American Israeli hostage was released and then like immediately was like, we don't lose my number bitch. Like we don't, we're not talking to you anymore. Um, and then in this case, like it, it just seems like he thinks it's like a fun, like a fake thing to do to like not mean anything that you're talking about, but uh, it seems like that.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Sociopathic way. Yeah. Yeah. So sociopathic, right? Yeah. That's sort of what the vibe is. And yeah. And also like strategically fucking stupid. If you're just like immediately, like always shitting on the people you're pretending to do diplomacy with and being like, well, I don't know how that happened.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Like that's, you no longer have access to diplomacy anymore, which is bad for everybody. Yeah. And you know, Trump has said things like, oh, we may have to get involved. You don't want to hear that. For what? This, again, a lot of people, like Tucker Carlson was like,
Starting point is 01:03:56 we have to cut our ties with Israel. This is like getting out of control. And I don't know what perspective that's actually coming from. But regardless, the people that live in Iran do not deserve to be killed by fucking missiles for just because Netanyahu is like, all right, I'm deciding preemptive strike now. And this is the, you know, this is the justification for it. So yeah, I don't know, maybe Caitlyn Jenner can help out. Yeah, that was the big, that was the way that the headline was channeled
Starting point is 01:04:25 by a lot of Western media. Caitlyn Jenner's Israel Pride Parade visit disrupted by Iran war breakout. What the fuck? So she was in Israel, like doing a pride parade at the site of the October 7th attack, you know, with this right wing
Starting point is 01:04:46 talking point of like saying that you're pro LGBTQ rights and also pro, not indiscriminately killing Palestinian people. Those are incompatible. How do you square that? How do you square that? Yeah, sure, sure. And so, and then she ended up drinking wine in a bomb shelter because of a war Israel instigated. So, you know, maybe she did help people to see what the current Israeli regime is really all about, claiming to be for human rights while endangering the lives of everyone they claim to care about and be protecting.
Starting point is 01:05:22 Well, I mean, human rights is just like this abstract perversion to most people coming, especially from the United States, like you wouldn't, human rights, most Americans aren't equipped to know what human rights are. Yeah, even conceive of it. When Jenner left town, she called and thanked Netanyahu and Trump and proclaimed that we will liberate Iran's citizens, that like, it seems like it is the most half-assed attempt at regime change in Iran.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Netanyahu launched the attacks and then did a speech telling Iranians to overthrow the current regime. He was like prime... Yeah, because you're so popular. You're so popular over there. Yeah. He called on the proud people of Iran to stand up for their freedom from an evil and repressive regime. Like, it's like, you know, the Cuban Missile Crisis just like poorly thought through.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Like, so you just like throw a couple bombs and then everybody's gonna rise up and because they all want access to free market capitalism. Yeah. Oh, God. Fucking, we're hurtling towards disaster because of idiots. Yeah. Well, thanks for listening to these idiots Those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday morning We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show Until then be kind to each other be kind to yourselves the show. Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get your vaccines where you still can, get your flu shots, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye.
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