The Daily Zeitgeist - The Brand is WRONG, Make America Vape Again 11.19.19

Episode Date: November 19, 2019

In episode 519, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Lydia Popovich to discuss Goop's absurd holiday gift ideas, impeachment updates, Trump's abnormal medical visit, Joe Biden trying to figure out marijuana, Trump begging Louisiana not to embarrass him, the vaping lobbyists getting to Trump, hip hop and politics, and more!FOOTNOTES: The Ridiculous but Awesome Gift Guide This is maybe the funniest thing he's ever said. Live updates: Trump says he will ‘strongly consider’ providing written testimony; McConnell ‘can’t imagine’ president being removed from office White House forced to deny Trump has serious health condition after ‘abnormal’ medical visit Joe Biden is still questioning if marijuana is a gateway drug, even though research doesn't support the idea Trump begged his followers in Louisiana: “You’ve got to give me a big win, okay?"  Steve Scalise: Trump doesn’t ‘look bad’ after Louisiana governor loss Trump Retreats From Flavor Ban for E-Cigarettes Pompeo ‘Feels Under Siege’ After Hitting Rough Patch With Trump MC/MASTER OF CEREMONIES (EMCEE) The 1977 NYC blackout and the hip-hop spark that ignited soon after The History of Rap in China, Part 1: Early Roots and Iron Mics (1993-2009) 'Tasteless, Vulgar and Obscene.' China Just Banned Hip-Hop Culture and Tattoos From Television Russia’s Youth Found Rap. The Kremlin Is Worried. Why Putin is learning to love rap Putin's war on rap unites Russia's hip hop artists WATCH: Orion Sun - "Stretch" (The Key Studio Sessions) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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a.k.a. Jumpin' Jack O'Brien loves cold gas, gas, gas. That is courtesy of Dr. Studley Batman. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! It's Miles Gray with some presidential AKA candidate AKs, AKA

Alita Spliff Warren, AKA Bernie Zanders, AKA Tulsi Dabbard, AKA Michael Schroenberg, AKA Can Brew Yang, AKA Joe Hyden, AKA Zamala Harris,. Michael Schroomberg, a.k.a. Hanbrew Yang, a.k.a. Joe Hyden, a.k.a. Zamala Harris, a.k.a. Yeetsawoodjedge, a.k.a. Alori Bucatini. Woo! Yeah, I think the last one was Cory Booker on Bucatini. Okay, I'm not sure what the other part was.

Oh, yes, I do. Honestly, the Yeetsawoodjedge. Look, I'm not affiliated, but wow, wow. The best. Wow, that is from JustTDZ, a.k.a. Trite Gang. Damn, Trite Gang. Yeah, I'm not affiliated, but wow. Wow. The best. Wow. That is from JustTDZ, a.k.a. Strike Gang. Damn, Strike Gang.

Yeah, come on with it. People are doing battle in my mentions with these punny a.k.a.s. They're good. Seeing the best of the best right now. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented Lydia Popovich. Hi, guys. What's up?

Welcome back, Lydia. Hello, hello, hello. Thanks. It's good to be back. We're thrilled to have you. Wow, Lydia back. Yeah. Hi, guys. What's up? Welcome back, Lydia. Hello, hello, hello. Thanks. It's good to be back. We're thrilled to have you. We want Lydia back. Yeah, this is awesome. I was thinking about you guys, too.

Great. You know, just dreaming, just like, when will they call? You know what I mean? God. How have you been? Pretty well, actually. Pretty well. Had myself a little bit of a summer.

Had a good time. Okay. Went to Hawaii. Whoa. Yeah. I didn't time in H-A-W-A-I-I. Didn't tell jokes. Did like a real, like a real time. Okay. Went to Hawaii. Whoa. Yeah. Time in H-A-W-A-I. Didn't tell jokes. Did like a real, like a real for real vacation.

Oh, do you normally be like, I'll do a little half vacay, half work? Yeah, because then you can write part of it off. Right. You know what I mean? Right. But I was like, no, but then you also end up like spoiling your vacation. Yeah, sure. And you're not saying you just refuse to tell jokes the whole vacation to anybody, right?

I frowned the whole time.? I frowned the whole time. People were like, aloha. And I'm like, yeah, aloha. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Mahalo. Ha ha.

Very funny. Yeah, yeah. Asshole. Just really walking around like, Mai Tai's not going to make me happy, sir. All right? I dare you. Another margarita. Let's see if I turn this sunshine on, okay?

Oh, yeah. I saw your vacation photos on IG. It was like you in a nice yacht with a drink frowning. Just miserable. Yeah, you had a luau. Miserable. Yeah. Yeah.

You in a helicopter tour of a volcano just crying. Yeah. Everybody's in grass skirts. I'm just in a raincoat. Like, oh, God. This is irritating. Get me out of here. Yeah.

No, it was great. It was fantastic. Well, Lydia, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the only holiday gift giving guide that you need, a.k.a. Oprah's favorite things for affected white people, the new Goop. Gift guide. They even acknowledge ridiculous holiday gifts.

Oh, they say it's ridiculous. I think so. Yeah. Okay. But you know, they, it feels very on brand for goop.

Some of these items. It's like, are you a one percenter who dabs? Then you need this $3,000 machine. We are just going to brush over the impeachment stuff real quick. We're going to talk about what was a scary moment for all of us over the weekend when our dear leader made an unexpected trip to the hospital. Gasp. Just phase one, though. We were just hoping that he was going there to just grace children who were suffering from debilitating illnesses with his presence

and cure them uh but apparently that's not what was going on well depends on who you believe right if it's a liberal media maybe it was a health scare if it's him he cured someone's blindness yes yeah uh joe hyde judge or no sorry joe hyden uh uh that, did not earn that nickname. No. Over the weekend. We'll talk about that. With a take older than him. Yeah.

John Weed. Centuries. Literally older than him. Yes. I was impressed, actually. We're going to talk about Trump going down and saving the Republican Party in Louisiana. Wait, that did not happen. I thought that was going to be a bigger news story

But no I guess it's just getting common So many L's being taken So many L's you thought are rap show Trump is You know, he came out With that I still think it's probably

Daily Zyke's favorite soundbite of him Oh, just one time About the dangers of vaping. Innocent children. And they're coming home and they're saying, Mom, I want to vape. Mom, I want to vape. Mom, I want to vape. So bad. Apparently, he is going, he got, a big vape got to him.

So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Pompeo feeling the heat from Trump. And then we have a big, long conceptual piece on rap. Yeah. That will be rapped by Miles and I. Yeah. No, it's just about the idea of rap as sort of a ethos that brings about change in society. It's like America is the one export that is going to other countries

and causing problems culturally. Or like it's subverting, helping to subvert a lot of, well, not, yeah. It's a first of art form. And we're seeing it all around the world. But first, Lydia, before we get to any of that shit, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? I looked at my search history this morning.

Okay. Three things came up. Uh-oh. They're all hilarious. I love it. Okay. Number one was two caskets. Is that a rapper?

No, no. It could be. Two caskets. Literally two caskets. Why two? Like a discount no because I now I was trying to remember I saw something funny

and was like going to try to meme and it was like something something where will they be and then I was like oh I wonder if I can find a funny picture of two caskets

and then was like okay didn't find one it was a failed joke you couldn't find two caskets oh I found two caskets but I realized everything I was doing

was an extremely poor taste probably shouldn't be done okay yep I just was like maybe this is funny for stoned Lydia right now You couldn't find two caskets? Oh, I found two caskets, but I realized everything I was doing was in extremely poor taste. You're like, okay. I just was like, maybe this is funny for stoned Lydia right now, but the internet and your future career, this might be something you delete later. That might be for drafts. So yeah. I just let that go. And then it was lots of land for sale, Tennessee.

Sick. Because I am looking- It's my favorite town in Tennessee. I'm looking for some land in eastern Tennessee so yeah I am looking for that legit talk to Billy Wayne Davis

property is very cheap I'm looking in Lewisburg outside of Nashville okay I want some acres I want some acres is that to be closer to your dear Dolly

yes and no you know it's a peaceful place yeah yeah yeah we've been making years and years of trips out there for the last 10 years and I've realized

that every time I'm there and I'm in the country I'm extremely happy and at one with myself. But you are – I'm remembering correctly, you're a massive Dolly head, right? Oh, yes. Absolutely. Are your trips out there Dolly related? Yes.

100%. Okay. So in a way, Dolly is the gateway person opening the gateway to the state of Tennessee. Yes. Exactly. Got you. And it's forced me to spend time there because I've gone there to see her and then I've tacked on other time and I've just amassed a great love and it's quiet

Do you think it's the idea of Dali that is putting you at ease or it's a combination of Dali and the land do you think just objectively that land is speaking to you Objectively it is beautiful and it's definitely speaking to me but I wouldn't know what it was unless it was for Dolly Parton so for sure it's intrinsically built into that

Bless her. I feel like we're going through for Dolly Parton. So for sure, like it's intrinsically built into that. Bless her. I feel like we're going through a Dolly Parton-a-sance. Oh, man. Oh, yeah. Of sorts. As somebody who's been, you know. A day one. Yeah. A day one.

Singing the praises. The Johnny Appleseed of Dolly Parton. Yeah. So how does that make you feel? I'm filled with joy. Oh, good. Because it's so wonderful to see her get the reverence and her to have the opportunity to shine all of the serious lights on herself of all the different aspects of how wonderful she is. Right.

And I feel like it's helping people open their eyes and see beyond the stuff that I'm always talking about. And it's interesting because I have so many people that know me and know that I love her. So I'm getting so many messages and so many texts and so many DMs like, Oh my God, like I kind of understand why you're like, I didn't get it before, but now I get it. Yeah. So it's nice to, you know, I mean,

I could give a shit if anybody knows or cares how much I love her. Cause I love her and I know what joy she brings me, but it's, it's nice to see other people see how great she is. For whatever reason, the last 18 months has been, it's because of her. That's the power of Dolly Parton.

This is a bitch working. She has so many projects coming out. Right. It's not an accident right she's a freaking genius no i'm saying it must be one of those moments though for all those irons she had in the fire or like now or you know the seeds she's putting down they're now starting to all bear fruit simultaneously like what the fuck she's on a nascar wait she got this other thing she got exactly because she knows she's like i'm 72 i gotta make this matter she's doing all this visual stuff so it's like a lot of work up front and then it's just press tours boom and it rallies all in it

she's still on her two year cycle like she it is so masterful it's I don't even know what to do about it I feel like she needs

to hire you oh my god she's building her own film and TV studios right now so I'm like plotting in my head right now oh shit yeah

there you go run that slate of like how she needs to hire me yeah I'll get coffee I don't care whatever you need bitch I'll organize those wigs you let me know I am here for you I'll clean I'll steam clean the me. I'll get coffee. I don't care. Whatever you need, bitch. I'll organize those wigs.

I am here for you. I'll clean. I'll steam clean the wigs. I'll be walking around with wig tape instead of gaffer's tape. Let's do this shit. I'm ready. I'm ready.

I have the knowledge. Blessed. I have the tenacity. What is something you think is underrated? Staying at home. Staying at home. I love staying at home. I love it so much.

I was trying to remember what I said last time I was here And I might have said the same thing But even so I really want to stress to people Don't leave your house For what Forever Why do you have to go

People are all excited about Like the weed cafe You can go smoke weed at this place It's trash You know what I can do at my house I can smoke weed at my house Yeah I can go to the bathroom at my house

I can order as many snacks As I want at my house And not have to pay $35 To rent a bong This Exactly The idea of renting a bong is straight bonkers to me. Yeah, I can't.

The second it was, so Engineer Daniel went to that cafe. Oh, yeah? And I was like, just tell me how many people are taking dumbass selfies in there. Not as many, but when we looked at the menu, I was like, this is antithetical to my entire being. Yes. The idea of everything rubbed me the wrong way. Yep.

Yeah, the bring your own weed, but everybody at the table has to pay 30 bucks? Yo. What? Get the fuck up on out of here. For what? For what?

Hey, meet me literally in this parking lot and we're smoking for free. Watch me smoke outside right now. Yeah. Right in front of your face. Bye. And you guys are not gonna like

my weed cafe bonkers. Ooh, bonkers. I say stay in the house. Yeah. It's underrated it's fucking great staying at home staying at home what is something you think is overrated leaving the house i'm just kidding this weed cafe leaving the house is crazy don't do it i promise you um leaving the house is true but i say overrated is a complicated coffee order like i know everybody likes what they like I promise you Leaving the house Is true But I say Overrated Is a complicated

Coffee order Like I know Everybody likes What they like But like If you're out In public And you're ordering

A coffee Keep it simple stupid You know what I mean Like don't Maybe don't go crazy What do you think What's What is the

Is there like An ingredient Like three modifications And you wild out Or is it two I think I think three or four Like I think

You can specify a milk Okay I think in this day and age that's totally fine. Very acceptable. I think you should be able to specify a sweetness. Totally fine. Like if you like your coffee sweet

or not sweet if it's that situation. Although honestly, you're a grown up. Get some sugar packets. Handle that shit in your own, bitch. Why are you slowing it down for everyone?

But like, hey, I get it. Maybe you have a syrup. You know what I mean? I'm a syrup lady. Seven pumps. You know. Seven pumps. Whatever. Dis Maybe you have a syrup. You know what I mean? I'm a syrup lady. So like, seven pumps, you know, whatever.

Discussing how many pumps is a long thing. I mean, I just don't want to ever talk about it. Okay. Never a discussion point. Nobody should ask ever

anytime how many pumps are a pump or anything. Yeah. And I think that's kind of it. And if you want it hot or cold. Right. So what's a superfluous ask? Like, light light ice no ice

room room like can i have room like leave room oh leave room for more milk or like i want to i want a grande and a venti cup i want to oh like complicated stuff like that like specifications of like too hot or too like no like right I want the milk hot, but not foamy. But in between, just in that place where the fat might separate. Yeah, like multiple syrups. Right, right, right. Are you okay with... Sprinkles?

Sprinkles? Sprinkles? Like cinnamon sprinkles or nutmeg sprinkles or turmeric sprinkles. Do that shit on your own. They literally have the shit right on the side. cinnamon sprinkles or like nutmeg sprinkles or turmeric sprinkles or freaking actual literal sprinkles they literally have

isn't it because people were straight up abusing all the free cocoa powder and shit that they're like hey you know what fam we're gonna have to do it back here they're like yo

we're making mochas out here yeah literally I'm like yo just give me water I'm gonna mix it up with this cocoa powder I got it I'm gonna mix more chata

see I wish I just drink cold brew if I ever drink coffee and it comes out of a Kirkland signature can so I keep it pretty crummy. You're a real one, Miles. I'm a real simple one.

Yeah. But he actually, when he goes to Starbucks, he demands that they put it in a Kirkland cold brew can. Yeah, and they're like, we don't have one. And I said, in a fucking cold brew Kirkland can. And he just hands them an empty one. Yeah. When I go, you know, it's like, just let me get that nitro sweet cream.

Boom. Done. That's still one word. I'm cool. Yeah. That know, it's like, just let me get that nitro sweet cream. Boom. Done. That's still one word. I'm cool. Yeah. That seems that it's like a thing that's on the menu. You're not asking to modify. In this bucket I brought?

Right. What would you say? With fair trade milk. What would you say with extra ice? Do you think that's too much? Extra ice? I mean, I think that's too much. Like, what's wrong with you?

Well, you're also, you're doing yourself a disservice by getting extra ice. The volume of liquid that's going to fit in there is not it. They're already cheating you. I like to get an ice cream headache. Just drink it real fast. You know what? I'm kind of that with espresso, though. I like really ice cold espresso with no sugar and no milk.

And I will just take it to the head. That is kind of a great feeling. Liquid nitrogen. Yeah. So you're just like. Break my esophagus. It's pretty much like. other than like inhaling it it's the best way to really get yourself jacked up okay but so would you make an exception like

all all of these things on their own as one thing would be okay but people who come in and are like three pumps dusting of nutmeg yeah fuck that guy in the face put it right in the face i want a small and a benty yeah because then i feel like you would never say small though he would say no yeah we had tall and eventy but i still feel like that's you are trying to exhibit some sort of power over the person taking your order right like at some point it becomes like okay did you you know how many brothers and sisters did you have like did your mom never pay attention like did you always get it cut into squares when you really wanted it in triangles? Like, what are you working out right now?

You have to be so effing specific. That would be wild. You watch people at Starbucks and they're like, sir, can I actually get you involved in a quick survey? Yeah. Just want to find out. What was your,

what was your childhood like? How little were you touched as a child? Yeah. Contact hours. Never heard of them. Oh yeah. Exactly. Exactly.

Contact, my contact I got from my mom smoking weed a lot. Does, is this triggering holding this single key on a chain or a shoelace? Is this at all triggering? This old dirty Adidas lanyard. That was my key. I feel like those people are also like they want to be down like really bad with the Starbucks people.

So they like adopt the lingo. Whereas like the Starbucks people adopt that lingo because it's just- It's shorthand for work efficiency. Right. It's work efficiency. But like when you doingo because it's just, it's shorthand for work efficiency. Right. It's work efficiency. But like when you do it, it's just, yeah.

I got to believe that they're like, all right, buddy. Thanks. Like it's, that's what I mean. Like it's demeaning enough. Or they don't do half the shit.

They're like, you can say that, but I bet you, you won't even know. Yeah. Right. Or like, I've heard somebody like telling like,

what is it when they, they pull the shot long? You know, there's like dopio something like all the like the fancy words it was something i was like i want a alfredio freaking blah blah and i was like and me and the fucking barista were like you want what sir we looked at each other like what is his fucking problem and then he was like i want the long pull and he's like it's starbucks it's a machine it pulls like i was like i love this guy so hard right fam it's a machine i can i'll press the button for a long time boom long shot done got it got it in uh what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false um here's two not such a myth

as a misnomer uh legalization of marijuana and decriminalization of marijuana are not the same thing and are not synonymous and then the second thing is is that people think that dolly parton's arms are covered in tattoos and that's why she wears long sleeves all the time they are not in truth she does have tattoos that are along her torso she's got little flowers and little butterflies which cover scars and other things that she didn't really want to have but she does have tattoos just on her torso okay not on her arms yeah and she recently confirmed that in good morning america like a week and a half did she show the tats or she did not although there was a picture on instagram this year where she was wearing a

mess shirt and she was on a nail salon in the valley and you can see him through the shirt in the valley out here yeah what is she doing out here she's been going back and forth she's putting all this stuff on net. She's producing different things. This was around Grammy's time, too. I need to catch Dolly Parton in the Valley. Dude, who are you telling? In my kingdom? God.

In my queendom, I guess now. Man. Yeah, I lost my shit. That's like the first time I really lost my shit. You're like, what fucking nails you on is this? Exactly. I was like, I will put these bitches' faces into like, I'm going to call that dude from Catfish that can Google faces and find out where these bitches work and just make appointments anytime I know she's in town.

Boom. They're like, what do you want? I'm like, just do my nails over and over all day. All day. I will live here 24 hours. Just keep doing the sets over and over. I can clean up at night if you want, as long as I can be in here. Let me know if you need to re-nail these, like, redo these polishes.

Yeah. Got you. Got you. I'm here. All right. Well, speaking of queens, guys, it's time to talk about my queen, Gwyneth Paltrow. Bless up. Yo, that would be a sick t-shirt, like the Candelas they have for like saints.

Yeah. But you have one with Gwyneth Paltrow. Oh, my God. Actually, no, fuck that. My coolest cousin. Because I know somebody would wear that and be like, get the fuck out. My coolest cousin was in a band called Kill Gwyneth Paltrow. Hey, that's the wildest thing ever. Also great.

Shout out to everybody on that band. Alright, so Gwyneth's website, Goop, put out the ridiculous but awesome gift guide. And it's something. There's prefab homes in there. But

I want to read one of them to you. One, The Journey to nature's edge expedition wait where is that it's an expedition it's in the oh there it is so there's a polar bear on it polar bear is that a book a journey to no no it's a literal expedition expedition uh i want to read the description momentum adventure from 11.3 million for 12 months of trips. So starting at $1.3. So. It's basically $100,000.

Per trip. Per month. Sure. It seems like a great price. It's like they thought you were going to say, sure, that seems like a great price, but they lure you in with the extras. And it's not just thought you were going to say, sure, that seems like a great price, but they lure you in with the extras. And it's not just $1.3 million. What's wild to me, it says 12 endangered species focused trips to be spread out or taken all

at once. So you're going to massively expand your carbon footprint to like get to one of these places and be like, yeah, man, this fucked up. This polar bear probably going to die. All right, let's get out in this fucking jet right like what the fuck is that and are you gonna travel for 12 continuous months or is it like one week in a month that you're slowly like being part of the problem this is like this is literally the kind of travel website the fucking the roys from succession look at exactly because you know there's like levels to

travel and shit and i'm like i would never have heard of anything like this but when you look at. Exactly. Because, you know, there's like levels to travel and shit. And I'm like, I would never have heard of anything like this. But when you look at this website. Every picture does, to Miles' point, have like a big gas guzzling, like non-energy efficient vehicle. Right. It's just like, here's a big gnarly four-wheeler. Monster truck. What's that? A helicopter with all the gas?

Yeah. Fucking up ancient cacti with your big-ass tires. Here's pristine nature. Wouldn't you want to fuck it up with your awesome four-wheel? Well, when they talk about it, Momentum Adventure specializes exclusively in bespoke luxury adventure travel. We only run a limited number of experiences a year, guaranteeing a personal level of service from beginning to end. I'm like, I've never even read a business thing like this. We can only find a few humans that are willing to participate in the manhunt.

Who have completely compromised their dignity in the name of profits. We got caught last year for doing five. Yeah, we got caught for letting our people kill a polar bear just for shits. Now, I don't want it to seem like all of these gifts are unreasonably expensive. They have a really cheap one for $99, a dehydrated caviar bar. It looks like a candy bar. It looks like a candy bar. It looks like a black brick of coke or something. Right, but it's actually caviar.

Oh my God. And then just a line below that, they're like, but you're not really going to want that. They have special reserve Kaluga Huso hybrid Petro-Russian 1616,000 for one kilogram of caviar. Get a brick of caviar! Yeah, right? Wow.

Just fucking moving bricks like a mason. So wait, this isn't a joke. She's acknowledging that it's ridiculous, but it's awesome meaning overpriced, but worth it? Well, I guess there's levels, right? Because then you go to the one for men, and it's like, check out this bespoke muddler made of wood or a four thousand dollar rolex i mean it's still i feel very much if you are in this mindset of like i have so much disposable income

like sure what's a what's a hundred dollar water bottle that's also a foam roller for my you know bespoke muscle classes on the real though if a bitch bought you a muddler, what would you say, Miles? I would be like, fuck you, man. You think I'm that corny? A muddler? I can't even say. It keeps on coming up, muddler,

because I'm just like, I know this is from a meddlesome bitch. I guess if my whole thing was mixology or something, I get it, but it isn't. So then I would be like, who do you think I am? Do I have a fedora on? Right.

I do not. There's some guy out in a fedora right now. He's like, what's up? It sounds great. I actually have a, but in a way, low,

if that's your shit, go ahead. You know what I mean? For me, that's the first, you know, there was also like a joint rolling machine in there. I just don't look,

I don't respect you. I don't, yeah, don't do that. They're already taking our jobs. Don't keep, keep somebody, keep that homie employed in your circle who does all the role.

Unless you have OCD and you want them to all be perfectly round in which case in which case you know I'm a perfectionist and it took me

years of rolling to then master it and then you like then that becomes the process you fall in love with that's how you have the feeling of being alive

that nourishes your soul fucking new booty smokers going to Lowell's trying to roll cigarettes by themselves. I never successfully rolled a joint. Like, I've tried, and it does not go well. Would you ever do that thing where you got so frustrated, you start tearing it up midway, like, fucking stupid joint.

I've done that before. I've totally done that before, where it's, like, almost perfect, and then it starts ripping, and you're like, you son of a bitch. Fucking fuck it. Fucking, I didn't know what you were doing. We'll do it live. And then it's, like, half. Have you ever tried to like bend through that

and then try to glue it back together we're like I could patch it typically I just go fuck it fuck it and I just put it back in the grinder and I'm like here we go

the whole thing including the paper this is what I deserve fuck it I don't care yeah I think part it's really terrible when you roll it too tight because it looks good

and you're like oh this is it and then you're like all resin at the back okay cutting the back off yeah thinking like just try and roll it in your fingers loosen it doesn't work it's like the super squishy from that episode where barton millhouse try and drink the super squishy and he's like sucking on it it's like cement glasses fall off one thing uh that made me realize like how much less cool I was than my dad is one of his friends told me that when he was a teenager, he was known for being able to drive while rolling a joint with the other hand.

And rolling an amazing joint. Yeah, it's super dad lore. Every 70s dad, my dad said that too until I actually watched him do it. And I was like, like oh shit it's real they're like edward scissorhands would have done a better job on this shit but it's so true like every family has like that one guy where like that was the dude man that was the dude that had the most sauce in your family yeah it's like fuck and now you're like oh the sauce has dried up yeah the sauce the sauce is dehydrated like that caviar. Stuck to the bottom

of the pan. It's been on too long and you've ruined the pot. That's right. Gotta get that water. All right. Wait, they have a Yayoi Kusama pumpkin

you could buy on here. Yeah. Like a fucking original artwork. Get the fuck out of here. I just don't understand. I just don't understand having that much

disposable income. I think it's just, it's like, you know, like when people look at the Rob report and shit, being like, this is how the wealthy do it. Meanwhile, I will, and this is why I will continue to defend the wealthy. Right. One day I want to have a $200 rent rolling. This is why we need Michael Bloomberg, guys.

Hell yeah. Otherwise, who's going to buy these things? Yeah. And I mean, look, now that he gave that really tepid apology for stopping Frisk, I guess I was forgiven. Right. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago, when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less

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flames right um but because right now uh today tuesday we will have heard the testimony of lieutenant colonel alexander vinman uh who is like the NSC's Ukraine expert. Like the dude who is like everything the U.S. government is doing that relates to Ukraine, I know about because that is my fucking gig. So he will probably have a lot to say. And then Williams is an aide to Vice President Pence, who also listened to the call and said it was unusual. Yeah, but I'm told that she's a total hack who should go back to her job. Yo, Marie Yovanovitch got a standing ovation at a jazz club over the weekend. I know that sounds like an absurd fucking thing.

Also, shout out to her. I like she's at a jazz club. Yeah, she's like, this shit's heavy. I need to go sit in a smoky room and listen to something sad. Twist up a backwood real quick. I can't fucking deal with this. I need to listen to Giant Steps. I need to fuck up in a smoky room and listen to something sad. Twist up a backwood real quick. I can't fucking deal with this. I need to listen to Giant Steps. I need to fuck up.

And then Wednesday. So I think, you know, and then Kurt Volker and Tim Morrison will also be speaking. But I think Vindman is going to be a really big person to watch. And then Sondland, Gordon Sondland on Wednesday, because he's the dude who's been like, oopsie daisy, lying like crazy type shit all the time. Yeah. I mean, he's had to correct himself a couple of times. Yes. lying like crazy type shit all the time yeah i mean he's had to correct himself a couple times yes and then with bill taylor saying my staffers heard this motherfucker on the phone with trump

right talking about these investigations yeah he's gonna have to answer that or will he i don't know so tim morrison is like the defense's key witness right like that's the dude who uh i think said that he didn't think the call was inappropriate inappropriate and like that's the dude who uh i think said that he didn't think the call was inappropriate and like that's the best the republicans have to yeah they have a dude's opinion a dude's opinion and it's and it's not like i thought it was totally innocent it was at the time like it didn't really freak me out yeah that seemed whatever is that right oh hell no whatever. Is that right? Oh, hell no. I would never do that. That's fucked up. Right.

I will say. Yeah. But then he did confirm like other things though. So aside from his opinion, it lines up with everything else. He just maybe. It's just they're really reaching. They really need a win, I feel like. Yeah.

And then we have Laura Cooper, David Hale. That's another deputy defense secretary. And then Fiona Hill will be Thursday. It's going to be a busy week, guys. So we will be double publishing again this week. Double pump. Double pump fake. Double pumping.

That sounds weird, too. Yeah, it does. Yeah, it was more of a basketball phrase that got weird. Yeah. Double pump 360 windmill. Double pump 360 windmill. Double pump 360 min-will. Min-will. Oh, boy.

That's actually my order at Starbucks. I'm like a double pump 360 unicorn latte windmill. And then all you do is you take the drink and then you do that into the garbage can. Right? You just throw it away. They're like, God damn, bro. Dominique!

Yeah, they're like, we could have given you an empty cup. You've got all this Frappuccino everywhere. What is that drink? But let's talk about the other concern regarding the president, his health. Apparently he made an unexpected trip to the hospital on Saturday to visit someone who went through a surgery? He says he was like, I visited someone from Iraq who was going through a surgery. Oh, okay.

And also phase one of my annual physical. Like, first of all, phase one? Yo, this screams of something was wrong with his dick and he was too embarrassed. That's the only reason why men go to the freaking hospital as a surprise and then are weird about it and try to make it sound like it's normal. Like, yeah, you normally go for the first part of your physical. What happened to your dick over the weekend, his dick wasn't working he's like yeah he's in a surgery and i can have him look at my balls and tell me if these are infected doesn't

the president like have doctors who come to the white house and just like give him his physical while he's like no well they do it at walter reed they do yeah yeah because they want it to be official or whatever so the thing that's interesting interesting is, like, if it was his physical, it was completely out of, like, it was not following protocol. He just had his annual nine months ago. I'm telling you. I mean, I would like also to, like, he would ignore something really terrible. He's like, I got this weird pain in my arm.

Right. And my chest feels tight. And it's all black. But hold on, hold on, my dick, though. It's redder than normal. Well, what about the other thing you're saying i don't care about that what's wrong with it does it normally shrink like this it's stuck inside me normally when i'm excited it comes out a little bit just a little bit i have not seen the tip not even the tip sir he has gone

for you know they were saying if you went um to the hospital two hours, that's got to say something because his last physical was three hours. So a lot, you know, this has caused all kinds of speculation. If you listen to the White House, they're like, oh my God, he's so healthy. He actually shamed the doctor for not being healthy enough. And he was like, actually, I need to go

because if this is how you treat yourself, I can't trust your medical opinion. He's like, the McRib is available somewhere. It's back. I've got to get there. The doctor actually called him in because he wanted to learn things from his physical specimen yeah it was an emergency consultation with a doctor yeah holy shit what's your secret look at this man's heart um and then

you know one democratic political strategist again everyone started speculating but he's like here's what i think he's gonna resign and use a health reason to do it. So it feels like an out that doesn't have to harm his ego. And then he can also claim betrayal from within his own administration through this impeachment thing. And that's what it is. Like, look, I can't do it. They're trying to bring me down. Also, my dick.

My dick is so sad. It's making me consider looking weak to the liberals. I don't think so. I think he'd rather honestly be like, no. Till the wheels come off. Till the freaking wheels come off. I think people assume that he is like other people and that conflict wears him down. Exactly.

And being at the center of this is hard on him. But I think he goes toward like he craves that shit he craves being like uh up at three in the morning just writing mean emails about an intern for pence right right right like i'm gonna fucking burn that little she's gonna go through some things yeah exactly uh all right uh joe biden uh our next president elderly news probably uh oh my god uh he was at an event in las vegas uh where by the way weed is legal uh and he decided to let everyone know you know how how he felt about marijuana how with it he is yeah he's up he's uh think about it think about it kids think about it kids this is what

he says because they're asking about him you know a lot of other candidates like i will fucking legalize that shit on day one right like let's just fucking let's just end that there right he is saying the truth of the matter is there's not nearly been enough evidence that has been acquired as to whether or not weed and i just editorialized there is a gateway drug he goes on to say quote it's a debate and i want a lot more before I legalize it nationally. I want to make sure we know a lot more about the science behind it. I mean, I think that's the world's greatest play at just getting free weed. He's like, I don't know.

Got to do some research. Maybe everybody just sends some of this free weed my way. I can sit down and get to the bottom of this. Do I want heroin or do I want nachos? And what's the difference between shatter, butter, sauce, sugar? I don't know. Just tell me about it. Send them all over. I don't know. I just

need to do some research. Send it over. But he does say he's open to decriminalization and then also goes on to just say the states, look, if they want to figure out what they want to do, then do it. But at a federal level,

I don't know. He sounds high. He's not making any sense. Well, I mean, look, there's plenty of research that says they cannot find a connection as if weed is like the gateway to suddenly listening to jazz music and becoming a

communist. Right. Which I'm surprised he didn't say. Yeah, pretty much. That's exactly. He's like, you'll next thing you know,

your daughter's in Harlem. The pamphlet that's been in his pocket since 1922. Right. That's exactly. Right. When he's like, the Latinos are smoking the devil weed. Crazy loco. The scariest invader from the southern border.

Yeah. Mary Jane, the kids call it. But also by polyester. These hemp ropes are pretty fucking strong, but we're working on polyester too. But I mean, the main thing is decriminalization, right? Like that's what needs to happen. Is there anybody who's like decriminalized but don't legalize it? Is that like...

That's true. I mean, that's what Biden's saying. That's what Biden's saying? Yeah. Okay. He's like, you shouldn't go to jail for possession. That shouldn't be a crime. Then it should be legal.

It's like, what are you talking about all day? Like, do you know what you're talking about? Well, yeah. Hey, they're going to make you loopy and spooky. Well, and then it's also like the decriminalization is like, is it like retroactive? Right. And that's what you really need. That's the danger zone.

That's why people are against decriminalization. Are you okay with freeing all those people you put in jail through your policies? Exactly. And then it's funny because that's an opportunity for him to be like, yeah, I love the war on drugs. Yeah. But like, let me,

you have a moment here to be like, yo, that was so fucked up. We should not. We put generations of men away. Yes. And women. Somebody who needs to come extra correct about like,

you know, the war on drugs. Come on, be like Bloomberg and be like, read from a fucking sheet of paper and be like, I realize for black and Latino communities,

stop and frisk was bad. And you know what? I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Y'all think I mean it. Ha ha. Yeah.

I don't know. It was, you know, he even, he took a moment to try and reverse a negative, but, you know, Biden, he's still, oh man, he's still looking good in the polls though yeah he's still up there trump yeah he's the president apparently he is i just actually want to say the whole thing when we were talking about why he may or may not quit like he does have a pattern right where he knows when is the jig is up he doesn't like to take l's like that he really doesn't true and so he will find ways to

be like well that's really not what that was or like i actually had to i actually had to rage quit because of this and louisiana was kind of looking at this thing that he's been doing the last couple governor's elections so in um uh was it kentucky with matt bevin running for governor right trump showed up and was like they're gonna say to say it was the worst loss ever. Don't do that to me. Yeah, don't do that. I need you. Sure enough, motherfucker lost. And then he said, well, the whole thing was, I actually, he was down 30 points.

I got him like 20 points. That's what happened. But it's like, no, the race was just a little bit more competitive. I don't know if you can say you did that. An L is still an L. You did that. Yeah. L is still an L.

Yeah. And then last week, Louisiana, he was stumping for Eddie Rasponi, who was like, I think, 22 points down or something. Right. And then Trump came through and did the same thing where he was begging the people. Don't embarrass me. And this is what he said. We elected everybody. The governor got brought up in a few short days.

19 points. I went, we made a speech. The whole ticket was there. Everybody won big. Governor's a really good guy. But 19 points is a big thing. And he lost by just a few thousand votes. And the headlines the next day, Trump took a loss.

I lift him up a lot. So Trump took a loss. You got to up a lot. So Trump took a loss. I know how that works. So you got to give me a big win, please, okay? Okay. Okay. Okay, spank me with this Forbes magazine. Okay.

Okay. Okay. I mean, is it true that the dude was losing and then Trump focused his energy? Well, it's not. You can't. The math is different. You can't say, like, because he was this far behind in a poll that him being there gave him a 22 points it just doesn't work like that but i think that's sure it was a competitive race but at the end of the day you could you

can hang your hat on or you hang your toupee or wig or whatever on some shit like i went there and motherfucker won right despite being 20 points down right that's how fucking strong the brand is yeah and the thing that everybody keeps saying about Kentucky, and by everybody I mean Donald Trump Jr. and Donald Trump, is that, well, everybody on the ticket won. And it's like, yeah, no, that is the baseline is Republicans win in the South. Like, that's all Republicans win. And the one dude that you were stumping for did not win.

Right. Same in Louisiana. So I don't know that it necessarily means anything other than that these dudes are incredibly unpopular politicians or slash popular politicians. Well, and also when you look at it, those losses all came because the suburbs have abandoned them. Right. So it might be a part of a bigger trend. Yeah, exactly. And I think that's really what those people came out for him in 2016.

But now through the midterms and these other elections, we're seeing like maybe not. But still, everybody needs to get the fuck out and vote. The thing that Steve Scalise went on Fox to basically try and nurse, you know, tend to the president's ego wounds and And just said what he said was he'd be made to look bad whether he came in the state or not, basically. And Eddie Rasponi made up a 22-point disadvantage over the last month because of President Trump's involvement. Clearly, President Trump's involvement made a big difference at helping close that massive gap.

Just not enough to get, you know, majority of the votes. Proper winning. Yeah. But that's cool, you know. Do what you gotta do. We did a good job, though. Yeah. Almost. Scalise appeared at a rally and was at that rally with Trump, by the way.

Oh, great. So he saw it firsthand. Yeah. How little energy was in that room. Right. Great. Except for the beginnings. I mean, shout out to those political objectivity. Those fans. Like, the first firsthand yeah how little energy was in that room right great except for the beginnings i mean shout out to those political object those fans like the first 10 minutes he got he's got y'all hooting and hollering and then when you realize like oh this man's just gonna talk at us for another 90 minutes yeah and then people go the shit gets less and less then he has to like get him back he's like but what about the media back there yeah i can't believe it. Also, what's wrong with my dick?

Anybody? Anybody a doctor here? So when you talk about the suburbs, though, you know, the big thing is that he's losing suburban women. And this vape thing was possibly a way to do well with concerned mothers who live in the suburbs because there was a lot of concern about Jules and vapes and these little kids. Because little kids are coming home and they're saying, mom. You know, they're not saying, dad, I want a vape. They're saying, ma, ma, I want a vape.

And if, I mean, let's just let that echo in eternity one more time. What'd he say? Innocent children. Innocent. And they're coming home and they're saying, mom, I want a vape. And that's what, and back then he had that energy to say, and you know what? Maybe we need to get rid of some of these flavored vapes until people got to him. First, there were his own supporters who were like, President Trump, we support you, but we also vape, motherfucker.

So don't get me fucked up. And dog, that blueberry haze is my shit. I need that Yankee Blue Dream or whatever that is. I like bubblegum-a-yum-a-yum. Yeah, right. So they say a few lobbyists got to him. It says allies working for the vaping industry have told Mr. Trump that battleground state polling of his own voters showed the issue of

banning vapes was going to cost him support. One such poll was commissioned by John McLaughlin of Trump campaigns, pollsters for the vapor technology association. And they looked at these is a poll coming from big vape. Yes. Yep. Okay. Sponsored by big Big Vape and they are telling him hey man you come out anti-vape you're gonna lose like I don't know half of America like I don't know like everything it says if you get rid of vapes like someone might pull your hair off and you'll go to jail right this is vape town yeah there could

be like you know like ghosts might haunt you forever i don't know i don't know if you want oh no and yeah quick to sharks might like end up in your toilet if you do this i hate sharks but yeah i think again he was shown them from that that industry this is gonna cost you but it's funny i'm sure there's a lot of astro-turfing going on but their world there was a thing where they were interviewing pissed off vape users who were like, don't fucking come for my vaches. Get your hands off my vapes.

Oh my God. So, hey man, make Vapamerica vape again. Damn. Vaping community coming strong. Who knew they had so much power? Who knew the industry had so much power, right? I'm curious to know how much groundswell,

I'm sure people, if that's your your shit because you see people walk around those gigantic batteries and i'm like oh that's that's you that's your life they say like the whole like vape modification people are like really into building those things yeah it's like a lightsaber yeah yeah and they have like conventions and stuff yeah like the all the comical like how can you vape bro dude i want it i am curious I get the, I think I could get a big cloud going. I see those cloud contests. Have you watched those videos? Yeah, it's frightening.

It looks like a VMA performance, like the amount of fog. Well, and that's, that's why I'm like, what are these kids vaping and how tiny are their lungs? I know. Well, hey, they're probably doing exes. They're cheating. But one thing I just want to talk about, prayers out to Pompeo. Yeah. Mike Pompeo, prayers up.

Just, it seems like he is having a tough time. He's always been, like he got to his position of power, Secretary of State, by just basically agreeing with whatever Trump said. And everything. Being like the most simple, straightforward sycophant possible. A rubber stamp.

Whatever you say, sir. And now that that is sort of backfiring on him, or now that there is sort of some adversity in their relationship because all these people are coming out and testifying for Pompeo. Like they are under Pompepeo and trump is not happy about that he was saying something apparently at lunch like he's like you got to reign your people in man yeah what the fuck is this yeah getting fucking burned and what the fuck is it why why is he getting burned does pompeo just not give a shit about him no he just

keeps saying this is what they said this quote it says pompeo feels like he's getting a bunch of blame from the president in the white house uh for having hired all these people who are turning against trump uh and then trump feels that quote it's the state department that is going to bring him down so it's all pompeo's fault and pompeo feels like he is just basically under fire right because of this and it's true i mean like it's been a a nonstop parade of State Department officials talking that part to Congress and just saying like, yeah, this is what it is.

I'm sorry, do you have any other questions? I'm the most credible person you've ever had testifying. I'm going to get a standing O at a motherfucking jazz club later today. I'm going to head out.

Yeah. Exactly. Oh, man. Well, hopefully those two kids iron things out. Wow. You hate to see it. This is the thing.

Slowly, everybody's, like I said last time, they're lifting their shirts, showing they got that pistol on them. They're like, don't fuck around, bro. You throw me under this bus. Don't throw me under this motherfucking bus, too, because I got some shit I can say, too. Yeah. So, I mean, again, it's no honor among thieves. Wait, so in this case, that's Pompeo lifting a shirt?

Well, I'm just saying, like, we're starting to see everyone turn on each other. Some people have been like, absolutely not, sir. Like with, like we said, with Mulvaney. With Giuliani. He's like, I know too much. Yeah. Giuliani's like, I have an insurance policy. I have an insurance.

And then his lawyer was like, he's kidding about that. Yeah. Okay, thank you. Please don't listen to him. He's geriatric. Yeah. But in this case case Pompeo is just Letting it be known

You know Yeah I think he's I think what he's doing first Is like Come on go easy on me Right And then if he keeps it up

Then he'll probably be like Man fuck that dude Right And actually no There's probably one step between Be easy on me And fuck that dude But

We're seeing that evolution Yeah I think that stop is, this motherfucker right here. Is this motherfucker for real? That's, you know, you stop and you're like, oh.

Lev Parnas, that's the whole reason he started talking because he was like, I don't know him at all. And he's like, is this motherfucker? He doesn't know me? What?

Oh, fuck. Okay. How could you say that? Yeah, get PD on the phone. Right. All right. We're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. nation attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald

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Hip hop. Rap. The realist. The realist. MCing. DJing. Turntablism. Graffiti.

Are we going to talk about hip hop or rap? Because those are two different conversations. One of them has four elements and one of them does not. Is what? Is this one? Oh. Oh. Never mind. one of them has four elements and one of them does is this one oh nevermind what about this goop thing

well no we were talking about it because I've seen a few documentaries over the last couple weeks one was from the Atlantic about hip hop in China and another was from Vice which you know in this very narrow instance was talking about the rap like the whole rap scene in Russia and how both of these are becoming like like the state is now paying attention because like these people got these kids turned the fuck up on some like fuck the establishment shit. And we need to actually start figuring this shit out.

Yeah. A.K.A. repressing it. Yeah. figuring this shit out yeah aka repressing it yeah and i mean there's a like nietzsche uh talks about like they're being sort of master moralities and slave moralities and like there are certain uh you know structures of belief that uh help the state like keep people in order and help them like rule people and then they're the ones that subvert that. And I've seen analyses of Christianity being good for that because it just teaches you to kind of turn the other cheek and follow along.

I don't think that's necessarily the only reading of Christianity, but that is a reading. And I think it's interesting to read rap and hip hop as sort of a subversion of that. Well, yeah, you think about a lot of the big groups, they were first, especially with gangster rap, just being like, this is how it is for some people. And people are like, oh my God, this is vulgar. It's like, this is reality. Well, and it's seen so many different colors, right? Like rap and hip hop has always been about storytelling,

but it's a different shade of the story that is absolutely reflective of like the politicism of the times. So like, if you think about like how rap was born in New York, that's very different than like, or hip hop was born in New York rather, is very different than how gangster rap was born in Los Angeles in the 80s and the 90s. Yeah. Like they're still using that same spirit and energy,

but it's focused in very different directions. Right. It all depends on what your reality is. And then you, you sort of mold it. Yeah. Like the early shit is about just like, Hey,

like we're just doing this. We're having a good time. Like it's very hard. Yeah. And it's very reflective of like, like Island culture. Right. And so you have these people that like the whole idea of a sound system,

an idea of sort of like elongated street parties and that coming to new york you know what i mean and taking that same concept and having everything be local and just being like rapping about what you see right right bringing in the community so it's kind of part preaching which is like kind of going to your christianity thing but then it always becomes a way to express yourself yeah yeah and then it becomes this counterculture thing because of what it represents it represents young people getting together that singularly may not have a voice but then collectively have the ability not only to have a voice but be able to put rhythm to that voice which carries and then people sing that song and sing it louder and the next thing you know you have a whole motherfucking movement yeah

right so of course that's appealing to cultures especially cultures that are traditionally in an area where you cannot be open. Yeah. And like it takes a minute because people aren't listening to music in the same way. Right, right, right. And if you create music in an underground economy and it's black market already. Right. Then it's like, oh, is this politicized because it's being sold and it's profitable in the black market or because of what it's saying or both?

Right. Right. Which is like that in China. Music industry is totally different. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I mean, I remember when I was a kid, like certain rap being off limits because it had the parental guidance thing. And that is specifically a stamp of government disapproval.

That's like, we need to put this on to protect you from it. Which only makes it more popular. Right. Which made it so much doper that's why i knew i had a fucking dope dad because when all that stuff was happening around luke him and my uncle who are like record collectors and like really into music were like really into this whole debate and they went out and bought us me and my cousins two live crew records two short records like they came home with a stack of everything that had the freshly minted, like parental experience,

like explicit lyrics. And like the Luke's, I remember watching Luke videos with my family, like as a child and all around to life. Yeah. I'd be like, I'm watching like chicks and thongs twerking and being like, this is incredible.

Like, this is so incredible because my parents and my dad, I'm like, he felt so strongly that like, what can you censor oh this is the government controlling you you're not going to control my children so i'm going to arm my children with like this counter message and he totally gave us tapes and was like go play it play it loud if an adult yells at you let me know right he was like waiting for he's like let's see what

happens yeah for example like me on some tipper gore bullshit yeah i mean i will bump too short loud bitch like i feel like a lot of this this is stuff that people said about rock music being the music of the kids and stuff. But I feel like a lot of rock is also very commodified. And I don't know. Rap, I feel like if rap was as easy to commodify and like change the message of as rock, then like we'd have a completely different like hip hop landscape than we do right now. Well, let's also think about something that's fundamentally different between rock and between hip hop music. Rock is largely made by and for white people. Like rap and hip hop is done by by people of color is done by most

concernly black people right so that's probably a big issue like that in a place in other places that maybe are a little bit more xenophobic there are places that are racist like having your throngs of people also using music that was like brought to light by black people like that's probably another huge part of the issue right like would it be so subversive if it was done by white people right or would it be just for sure like be like oh it's for the youth right like would people have their hands up in arms about rap music if it was largely done by white people i don't think so right yeah i mean if it was like followed the trajectory of rock music like the beastie boys would have come out and then all rappers after that would have been white people exactly and

it would have been like songs about like you, asking your girl to the school dance or whatever. Or that Miley Cyrus album. Right. Listen, there are some bangers on that album. J's on my feet. J's on my feet. I went to that tour. It was fucking great.

It was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen with my eyes. Wow. It was great. But it's so. Shame she put the mic down. It was great. I think she so shame. She put the mic down. It was great. I think she's a better singer than a rapper. So overall though,

like this is a movement that kind of came up and like kind of grew up outside of the system and outside of like resisted commodification in America. And now as it's being exported, like something about it seems like it just lends itself to those same anti-establishment ideals. Right. So that's happening in China, right? Yeah.

With China, I mean, like it started off being like forbidden. Right. Because it's coming from the West. Of course. So already people are smuggling it. And then from there, you're like, wait, what do you mean? You got that rap? Got that rap?

Right. Yeah, yeah. And in the beginning, a lot of MCs apparently were rapping in english at first and then they sort of like no let's switch up the message a little bit um and i think now with like the advent of like vpns and things like that rappers are starting to get like their music out um but in this one documentary from the atlantic they were talking about certain rappers who have well well, essentially now, like it's illegal to do, to be a rapper essentially, or it's like very much frowned upon to do like in this one, this one part of the country, they were saying like, you know, if you're doing improvised performance, like you will be scrutinized, whatever the very flowery languages. But when it

comes to even Russia as well, it's been this thing where they've noticed a young population get really into it. They've tried to be like, they've noticed a young population get really into it. They've tried to be like, they've either tried to stop concerts completely or both countries have also done this thing where they're like, okay, if we can't beat them, let's have them join us. Right, right. Yeah. And that's where it's, and now like you're starting to seeing these things where people

are like, yo, that's not hip hop because you are just doing what the state is telling you to do. You're their version. Right. Where other people were like in Russia, they're like, let's do a contest for rap, but talk about like places to travel within Russia.

Meanwhile, like some of these bigger artists, there's one guy called, I think Husky. He like his concert was like, they pulled the plug on the speakers and the cops are like, you're not performing. You got these kids turned the fuck up on some,

like, I want to be a machine gun to shoot off the face of the wealthy type shit. And so when he came out, they're like, you stopping my show? He got on top of a car and started being like, well, I'll do this shit acapella. And people were screaming in the streets. They arrested him for hooliganism. Yeah. And like, this is kind of the thing.

And then Putin has also said, you know, at like a roundtable of like thinkers and like the, you know, protectors of culture. But for the state was sort of like, OK, cannot stop them we will guide them yeah and tried to have these like very sort of like lame attempts to try and have like these like round table discussions with rappers most of them didn't go because they're like right this is pr it's whack and like there was that rap single that was released that was all about how dope russia is in moscow and uh you know how cool putin all stock footage and yeah all stock footage and people i i hope weren't feeling that like i don't think it like immediately took off right no those don't know they were laughing at them because there's an option too or they've been incentivizing rappers to do more like

pro-state rap right and i think and so people are like yo what the fuck is no no absolutely not like not when other people are trying to get arrested but there's there is this thing when you look at it like whether it's them there's another group of these young kids who talk about all kinds of issues they're more like a poppy uh rappy rock group um i think they're called best friends um and they dress up like it like just costumes and shit fun but they're the things they're talking about like you know sexual identity gender identity depression suicide these things that are like they're like yo this is what it's like to be a kid yeah and these kids come out in full force and like even then the you know the kremlin kind

of looks at it's like fuck like they've got all these kids like really kind of getting in touch with the ills of society. Disposition of power. Yeah. It's very unsettling for a government that's used to having a stronghold. I mean, both of these governments we're talking about. I mean, China for sure, you know, edits and censors whatever comes into that country. Right. You know what I mean?

Like no media, like there's not free media there. Yeah. Like in any way, shape or form. So it's like every piece of music, every piece of video, everything that they watch, everything that's available on the Internet has to be approved. Yeah. So, of course, having a dissenting voice, even if it's bubbling. Yeah. And the idea that dissension is OK and acceptable and is like, you know, under the guise of music, that's threatening.

Yeah. That's super, super threatening. It's just interesting to see like how one thing like, you know, they'll try and stop all these other things from the west like to enter their countries but it's this power of like this music has people really like thinking or at least ultimately because that like engaging like russia like putin's smart be like okay well how can i use this for me you know what i mean and i'm sure there's also like local companies that are record companies that are like how can i monetize this right how can i package this so that it's acceptable because it does have monetary value? Those kids, like children between the ages of like 11 and 24.

And I know that's not children on the other side, but like 11 to 18, let's say like those little motherfuckers. There's your streaming results right there. Yeah. Like those are kids that are just like have shit else to do besides I just want to listen to it. They get into something and listen to it all day long right single day well it's interesting when you see like in this one documentary they were interviewing some fans outside of a show where they're like this show could get broken up that by the police like i don't care right they're like because the lyrics like they said are the

lyrics of this artist like are they representing what you believe and these are ones being like like the state fucked me i'm dead inside and they're like yeah that's pretty much they're speaking for me wow and then when you look at how like even before the show even started like people just had their like bluetooth speakers and were out their minds lit like it was and it's you can see like when you see that energy i'm sure at an if you're running some kind of authoritarian government you're like right well i mean and also imagine the power of seeing that though being like 13 14 15 16 At energy, I'm sure if you're running some kind of authoritarian government, you're like, ooh. Right. And also imagine the power of seeing that, though, being like 13, 14, 15, 16 and feeling like you have nothing ahead of you.

Right. Feeling like all of your options are closed. Feeling like you have to follow exactly the path that your brother, your sister minutes of listening to the song where you can actually that it exists and that you have access to it let alone being amongst other people that must be i can't even imagine what that must feel like yeah to feel the power of those energies and like oh there's a hundred other bodies here if we put all this energy together maybe we could do something like that is compelling but back to like putin and China to trying to like co-opt the whole thing and like bring it in line with like, why don't we do a rap that is the equivalent of one of those Russian propaganda posters where people are working hard in the fields. So that's the thing that I think is unique in these stories. Like so in China, they created a reality show that was like China raps and it was like China rap number one and the person who won

that was then like national celebrity but because his lyrics like weren't in line with what they wanted they like started cracking down on him and then that became like the movement that ended up with them uh making the entire music genre illegal and so it just seems like like with when you think about like hillary clinton's 2016 campaign where there was like the like she did like all the lit memes like she did like the frozen challenge or whatever that challenge where the mannequin challenge oh yeah you know like that she did a mannequin challenge oh yeah they did it on her like uh campaign plane my spine just fell out but but people were like oh that's so cool like

she has hot sauce in her bag it just feels like a lot of other cultural forms and media are able to be subverted or taken from above and turned to the interests of the people in power. But something about rap and just like its foundational myth and what's- It's hard to appropriate for the state in a way that's believable. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Like there's something about authenticity that like goes back to not just its origin story,

but like what is exciting about listening to it? Like the visceral experience of listening to it. Like that. I think, I don't know guys. I think hip hop has really tapped into something. I think it's, I think it's going to last for another couple of years. I think we might hear about it for a while heard it here first get it tied up

rap has got legs guys yeah turns out it's got legs i thought it was gonna be a rap in 88 uh you know what somebody somebody might be able to manage a career yeah right somebody might be able to do something with this thing you know maybe 30 maybe. 30 years. 40 years. I'm curious to see if that, you know, what the next evolutions are. Because it seems like it's, you know, there's this something about the self-expression part that people really like. I mean, as it is, people still don't really like happy rap. Myself included. Yeah, it depends.

Like, I don't really, like, if I can, I say this all the time and people laugh at me when I say it, but it's like, I don't like a rapper if I can hear him smiling while he raps. So you don't like Chance the Rapper? Hey, Chance. He's too happy, too smiling, feel too much joy. Yeah, like my wife. Yeah, exactly. He's like, I'm well adjusted.

Like, I just know I don't like it. Yeah, you need a little bit like, I got abandonment issues. My only friend is a pit bull. Yeah, like Kevin Gates is out of his mother-loving mind, but I do like to listen to him rap. There are some rappers out there where yeah there's something you it helps you deal with your own shit when you like scream rapping someone else's verse out and i think that's what that's the power right now it's emo rap like a lot

of the younger kids like the more emo shit but it's still kind of operating the same thing it's never like hey my mom was pretty chill my dad hugged It's also like, I just do Xanax all day because it's all dark, bruh. I got all the tapes I wanted. That is confusing to me, too. It's still tapping into something that is not going to be state-sanctioned or anything official-sanctioned. It's like tapping into something that is pain and struggle. Melania's like, I would like to do a song with little Zen. Be best.

I do. I don't know. I, uh, little Zen X Melania collab. I do want to hear more from Freddie Gibbs. So like, I love Freddie Gibbs is one of my favorite rappers.

Hands down. He is a beast. Anytime he's taking a shirt off and rapping, like I want to be there. It's just, your eyes are rolling back into your head. It's cause I just pictured in my head. I was like, Oh, that's right. It's taking a shirt off and rapping like i want to be there it's just your eyes are rolling back into your head right now no it's because i just pictured in my head i was like oh that's right it's such a beautiful thing uh but the man can wrap his ass off but uh his shout outs to his instagram stories if you do not follow freddie gibbs yeah especially like when you

see him watching random youtube videos from like so long ago and you're like what is this dude doing and you're like this is so good yeah like i know i said i don't like to like listen to rappers that i can hear smile like i can't hear him smile when he raps but all he does is smile and laugh on his instagram stories and it makes me so happy like i want him to provide like it's just it's great need a balance so good so shout outs to to freddie for having it real for being a real one lydia speaking of real ones it's been a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist. It's been fun being here. Where can people find you and follow you? Sure. On Twitter, at Hater Tuesday.

On Instagram, at Hater Tuesday. My website is LydiaPopovich.com. Those are the best places to find me. Come out there. Follow me on Twitter. Come see me in real life. I'm all over the world telling jokes. You got any shows coming up?

Yeah, I think so. I don't remember, though. All right. Check the website. Yeah, check the Zeit telling jokes. You got any shows coming up? Yeah, I think so. I don't remember, though. All right, check the website. Yeah, check the – Pull up. Pull up. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? You know what?

I wrote it down because I didn't want to forget. I didn't want to go through my phone. Oh, wow. A transposed, transcripted tweet. An old – look at – Wow. That's paper, kids. What is that?

That's paper. I know. Is that that weird money our grandparents used to use? So this is a tweet from my friend Todd Masterson. And it went viral last week and it made me laugh and really happy. It said this. My husband, a 36-year-old adult man, thought reindeer were a fictional animal made up for storytelling. And he's the smartest person I've met.

Trump might win again, you guys. Shout outs to Todd for that very funny tweet and also shout outs to his instagram account called gay fat friend which is one of the funniest shits i've ever seen in a while which basically just him photoshopping himself into super twinkie skinny gays having great times and then it's just him fat waving in the back like hey it's so fucking funny so do yourself a favor and look at it because it is truly one of the most simple and funniest things works of art i've seen in a long time shout outs to him he's a very funny man yeah that's hilarious miles where can people find you

you can find me and follow me on twitter and instagram at miles of gray. And also my new podcast for 20 day fiance. Yes. When am I going to be? Yeah. I will soon. Me, Sophia, Alexandra,

you know, we talk about our favorite reality show, 90 day fiance, uh, in a we're high. Uh, so some tweets I like first from the kid marrow, uh,

cause Kanye West tweeted a picture of him and Dr. Dre. It said, yay. And Dre, Jesus is King part two coming soon. And Mero said, drop in same day as detox. Exactly.

We'll see that one. And then another one is from at Laura Frimani. It's just like, it's a random account, but it just tweeted one of these videos. It says, I'm weak, LMAO. It's a video of these friends in a backyard just throwing up children's play toys as high as they can and being like, well, if it hits one of us, that's what it is. The cameras on the ground, they've all got their heads around

facing the cameras and then throw something behind them and just it's like, which one of us is it going to hit? Even one of those Lil Tykes injection molded chairs that everybody knows from preschools. I don't know why, it's like stupid ass fun i had when i was 14 it's like we might get hurt and get a concussion see what happens yeah if when i was permanently blacked out for a year in college

i also had kids at that time right it's like that you're like let's saw this kid's shit in there i'll take a fucking little tyikes basketball hoop to the fucking dome. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Did you give your Twitter handle? Yes. Oh, yeah. Miles of Grey. Yeah, they are.

Okay. You know what it is. Y'all know what it is. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Dylan Galula tweeted, refusing to look at my car's backup camera as I park. It's not cinema, I hiss. I'm getting angry now. Luke Monace tweeted every flight.

They're like, listen, we built the plane for 300 people and eight bags. We goofed. We need some volunteers to throw all their stuff away. One day. I hope I have enough time to be that hero. I'd be like,

yo, give me that $1,000 voucher right now. I'm only going Burbank to Oakland, but give me that voucher. I used to say I've never been that person and I've be like, yo, give me that $1,000 voucher right now. I'm only going Burbank to Oakland, but give me that voucher. I used to say I've never been that person, and I've never been in an airport where I get to my concourse, and it's right there. My gate is right there.

It's always at the very, very end. But then I had an experience where I was the gate that was right there. Man, there's something. I remember I was on a flight recently. This dude got up so quick when they offered the voucher. I was like, you, sir, you must be retired. Yeah, he's like, I have literally nowhere to be right now. Or I just don't want to see my family.

And I'll be like, I don't know, the flight got delayed. Can't make it. Then he's got secret trip money on the side that his wife doesn't know about. Uh-oh. Got to make another trip to San Francisco, honey. I don't know. Might be two, three days this time. Folsom Street Fair this weekend? I don't know. What is that?

September? Also, one more. Let tweeted, you glance at a white girl's notebook in class, and there she is just drawing a single eye. And I used to do that, too. Oh, shit. But do it so well. You know, get that little reflection.

That fucking got me. Wow. I feel like every fucking library I've ever been to in college had that shit going on. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

Wow. That's one of those straight to the heart tweets. Damn. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and our website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes,

where we lake off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be today? This is a track by Orion's Son, and it's called Stretch. And it's got like, I don't know, it sounds like an R&B song that could have been made in like 92, but it's clearly made now with a little more modern swag on it. But you can just tell from the drum loop, it's very much like Eric being Rakim. I don't know.

It's got like, look, I was feeling like I was in the past and the future at the same time. I think that's why I really like this song. And it's just, you know, just enjoy it. It's called Stretch, Orion's Son. Also my nickname for tall people. Stretch. Hey, how about you, Stretch? Not Shorty?

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