The Daily Zeitgeist - The ‘Cats’ Of Superhero Movies, Biden On TikTok 02.14.24

Episode Date: February 14, 2024

In episode 1624, Jack and guest co-host Andrew Ti are joined by TV writer, comedian, performer, and producer, Joey Clift, to discuss… Jon Stewart’s Daily Show Return Angers Liberals, Biden’s Tik...Tok Flip Flop, Biden Unleashes Dark Brandon Meme At Worst Possible Time, Madame Web Is The “Cats Of Superhero Movies” According To Reviews and more! Jon Stewart’s Daily Show Return Angers Liberals Jon Stewart's 'Daily Show' Return Sparks Backlash From Viewers Biden’s TikTok Flip Flop Biden nets 67,000 TikTok followers in first day The Biden Campaign Is Officially Trolling on TikTok Now Nintendo: ‘Refrain from bringing politics’ into Animal Crossing game Inside the Biden campaign’s surprising influencer strategy Biden campaign decision to join TikTok raises national security concerns Sen. Tom Cotton faces backlash for repeatedly asking TikTok’s CEO about his citizenship The Biden Campaign Is Officially Trolling on TikTok Now Majority of Americans say TikTok is a threat to national security Why the proposed TikTok ban is more about politics than privacy, according to experts TikTok and you: Should you delete the app now? President Trump now has a profile on TikTok rival Triller Biden Unleashes Dark Brandon Meme At Worst Possible Time Rafah was Gaza’s last safe zone. The Israeli assault will lead to a humanitarian disaster there Israel kills dozens in Rafah strikes, frees two captives Madame Web Is The “Cats Of Superhero Movies” According To Reviews Dakota Johnson Just Can’t Be Bothered to Pretend Madame Web Is Good Where does the copypasta text about ‘researching spiders in the Amazon with my mom’ come from? Is Spider-Man spinoff Madame Web bad? Listen bud, it’s just radioactive crud You Know ‘Madame Web’ Is Bad When ‘Morbius’ Starts Trending Again There’s a Reason Sony’s Spider-Man Universe Is, Frankly, Bizarre LISTEN: Velvet Blue by Ray LozanoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:25 get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 325 episode 3 of their daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio yes this is a podcast marv albert on the This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Wednesday, February 14th, 2024. Don't even get me started on what day that is. Oh, Valentine's Day. I don't think so. I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I don't think so. I don't think so, Hunt. I don't think so, Hunt. Okay? Not on my watch. No love allowed today. If you've got someone you want to smooch, save it for tomorrow. Yeah, that's right. I just walk around putting a balloon between people who are expressing affection to one another like I'm a middle school dance chap. Yeah, like
Starting point is 00:02:28 the Grinch spoke for Valentine's Day. The love Grinch. Make room for Jesus. Make room for Jesus. Just going from person to person. Well, shit. I don't have a Valentine's... I just realized it was Valentine's Day as I read
Starting point is 00:02:43 the date as we were getting into the doc. Oh, nice. Oh, very lucky woman. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Julius Opringles, a.k.a. Apple Vision Protetos O'Brien, a.k.a. the Thighmaster General. Those are courtesy of Scouty from the Discord. scouty from the discord and then to add a non-musical ak to the mix from me the propeller hat nostradamus shouts out to all the listeners guys i predicted that propeller hats were coming back during our year-end prediction show and some might have thought i was doing it as a bit uh and but ever since i did it people have been spotting propeller hats in the wild and sending me fucking pictures of them.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And I must say, yeah, I knew that shit was going to happen. In no way did I do it as a bit. I charted the trends. I read the waves, you know, like she talked about Cerulean and the Devil Wears Prada. Oh, you think that's just a propeller hat oh darling no that is i don't even know how to riff on that anyways you got it we're three funny people we could come up with it we could go up but propeller hats are like miles was in japan for the holiday and saw some propeller hats in japan very fashion forward oh you know it's it's coming folks i think that the dark side of this is it's going to be
Starting point is 00:04:15 some sort of like 3d printed drop ship like way too powerful propeller is the next evolution of this shit actually pulls people off the ground. Like something with some kind of aerodynamic buoyancy and then Elon Musk is going to make one. It's going to be... You're at the good part of this trend, but it's going to like all things.
Starting point is 00:04:36 Yeah, it's like, that's why we don't have high-speed rail in this country. Right. It's got to be something private. It's got to be individualism. So I need to individually need to be able to take off from the ground and get somewhere. Propeller hat is the least efficient mode of transportation.
Starting point is 00:04:54 Yeah. I got to say, whenever I'm on, whenever I'm on an airplane with a group of people, I always fold my arms and say, I wish this was just me. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Exactly. Oh, people. Am I right? But, uh, inspector gadget, almost pronounce it.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Gadget. Inspector gadget is, I go soft on both. Jeez is a fashion icon. Uh, speaking of fashion icons, I'm thrilled to be joined by a very special guest co-host, a hilarious and brilliant producer,
Starting point is 00:05:23 TV writer. You know him from the Yo, Is This Racist podcast. It is Andrew T! I thought you were going to say, speaking of going soft on both Gs, it's Andrew T. I don't have an AKA because I spent my AKA brainstorming
Starting point is 00:05:39 time taking a COVID test, which just came back negative. I'm just... I'm not even feeling sick, but I have a wee bit of sore throat that I'm taking a COVID test, which just came back negative. Oh, yay. I'm not even feeling sick, but I have a wee bit of sore throat. I now think LA is fucked up. I guess it's all the... Not even a little COVID. AKA COVID negative. So far.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Allegedly. So far. Are you using... Did you get new covid tests because i tested negative i was feeling a little under the weather last week or two weeks ago took a covid test but then i realized it's like from the original wave yeah so so expired probably it's gonna work fine i would imagine i guess the whatever the enzyme could get denatured. This was a Canadian
Starting point is 00:06:28 COVID test that was a gift from my neighbor. I guess technically my neighbor's boyfriend, who's from Canada. He's real, but he is from Canada. My Canadian boyfriend. And yeah, I had looked out for some stuff in their
Starting point is 00:06:44 apartment while they were gone for the stuff in their apartment while they were, I guess, gone for the holidays. Anyway, when they returned, some nice treats, a bottle of wine. But also, they thought it'd be really funny to give me a Canadian COVID test. Comes in a pack of five. And so far, and I guess this probably, I don't know if this speaks to the steady hands of Canadians or just the improved precision, but you know how in the normal at-home COVID test, there's a little vial of liquid that is, I think, the enzyme or whatever.
Starting point is 00:07:16 And ultimately, you only need three drops of it. In the Canadian COVID test, the source vial, where you get the original thing that you swish around in... Yeah, it's maple syrup, right? Okay. It has
Starting point is 00:07:31 3.5 drops. You basically cannot... By the time... It is absolutely clean, pristine, empty. But if your hand even shakes a tiny bit or anything
Starting point is 00:07:47 goes wrong, it's completely fucked. That's interesting. It was so hard. I was like, oh, no. Yeah. I like that other countries have a higher level of difficulty with their COVID tests. For America, they're like, we're going to need all the solution we can
Starting point is 00:08:03 get, man. These guys are fucking messy. Here's like a two liter of this shit. Just pour it in. Yeah, I like... I always empty the entire thing into the COVID test. It's like it says four drops or whatever. And I feel like whenever I do it, I'm just like, yeah, there's six drops in there. I'm just going to be generous.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I'm in there spreading it around like I just won the NBA championship. It's champagne, you know. It was really, but it was shocking. I was like, God damn it. And I did almost fuck up. Like, you know, like sometimes. Yeah, because you got to get it like back out of the Q-tip.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Like you have to wring it out. So your wringing skills need to be like next level. Wringing needs to be high, but also there's little enough liquid that like surface tension starts to matter. Like one of the drops, just because there was a bubble, started to pull away from the thing and I was like, oh no, my COVID. That's a third of my supply. Yeah. The fuck, Canada?
Starting point is 00:08:54 I would assume Canadian COVID tests actually work because they don't have any incentive to get everybody back to work. They actually care whether people die. I would think that's premium, top-tier shit is the Canadian. And they have to, like, yeah, pay for all the, like, the healthcare is handled. So, it's actually in their interest to just get people healthy.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Yeah. That's the cheapest for the government. Although maybe America does, like, a positive test because then money is being made. It's good for the economy. I don't know. Yeah. I feel like whenever i get like a positive or a negative covid test i always don't trust it i'm just like no i need a second opinion
Starting point is 00:09:29 that's true yeah i probably should i probably should do an american covid test i said yeah right to the whole pandemic that's right that's right yeah oh okay no thanks every time we've said COVID in this conversation, this is an audio medium, but we've all been doing quote marks. I've been doing sort of the jack-off motion. While rolling your eyes, yeah. Well, Andrew,
Starting point is 00:09:59 we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant TV writer, performer who's written on shows for Nickelodeon. Ever heard of him? You might have watched the Super Bowl with him. Cartoon Network, DreamWorks, the Netflix animated series Spirit Rangers. He's the creator of the brilliant web series Gone Native. Please welcome back to the show the hilarious, the talented Joey Cliff!
Starting point is 00:10:23 Yeah! Okay, I've got two AKAs. Everybody ready? Hell yeah. the hilarious, the talented Joey Cliff! Yeah! Okay. I've got two AKAs. Everybody ready? Hell yeah. Okay. AKA the man who puts the garf in Garfield. AKA the buffest man in podcasting. AKA, uh, oh shit a third one. Uh, COVID. COVID's real though, seriously folks.
Starting point is 00:10:41 COVID's real though, seriously folks. It's an anagram. Don't think too hard about it. Yeah, it's an anagram that't think too hard about it yeah it's an anagram that stands for uh storm the capital i don't know thank you how are you doing joey it's great to have you here uh yeah i'm doing great i uh yeah i'm excited to be back i gotta say i mentioned this on the show before every time like right when like right when we start recording, I always panic because I'm like, oh shit, I got to think of a song really fast to parody.
Starting point is 00:11:12 So I was literally just like, oh shit, shit, shit, Rocketman? Okay, yeah, I can probably parody Rocketman. And then I heard the AK thing. I'm like, oh, that's easier? Yes. Yeah, much better. Yeah, not to put too much pressure on you. But yeah've been we i need to give the pipes a rest i've been i've been really going full vibrato for the past like couple weeks so oh yeah you gotta get you gotta get some real like like whatever that the very diva set of t's behind you
Starting point is 00:11:36 for just yeah soften up the pipes all right joey we're to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. Jon Stewart is back, and he has angered the libs. They were not pleased that he called Joe Biden old. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about why Joe Biden, not old. Okay?
Starting point is 00:12:03 Okay, Jon Stewart, he's not old the man is on tiktok and he's also owning everyone with sick memes that are extremely poorly timed he's not old he's young part two we'll talk about madame webb is that how we're pronouncing that? Madame Web? Madame? The new Spider-Man, non-Spider-Man film that had the trailer that everybody was kind of entertainingly confused by. And Dakota Johnson had a fun press tour.
Starting point is 00:12:41 The movie is out. The reviews are unkind. It is being called the cats of superhero movies. So we're going to just check in with that one real quick. All of that, plenty more. But first, Joey, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Okay, so I've talked about this
Starting point is 00:13:05 previously on this podcast i recently started working out with a personal trainer so because of that i'm really obsessed with uh macros like macronutrients making sure i'm eating the right amount of protein so my most recent search history was how much protein is in brunch uh and i was really stressed while i was googling it. My girlfriend and I took her out to brunch on Sunday. And I was just like, oh, shit, shit, shit. Can I make this work with my macros? Yeah. Macros are like protein and like the protein carbs and like protein carbs and fat. Was it just a fistful of holiday sauce? Yes. Yes. I asked them to sprinkle a little bit of chicken into it just so there's protein.
Starting point is 00:13:50 It's like a sippy cup of holiday. One holiday sauce, one chicken breast. One hollandaise, please. Yeah, yeah. I love holiday sauce with french fries. And the macros on that, not good. Well, not good. Look, you can offset it if you eat some just pure slim jims for dinner later are slim jims good macros uh so so a lot of the
Starting point is 00:14:14 struggle macros is making sure that you have like a good protein rate protein to calorie ratio and do you have a very good protein calorie ratio yes yes the sodium like compounds that oh i just i just don't even think about that okay i'm for sure i'm for sure getting mummified from the inside based on my diet right now right but my protein is but my protein level is good they're gonna find your liver in 45 000 years and be like holy shit this is perfectly preserved and glowing and eat it yeah yeah i gotta say it is it's so funny how obsessed i've gotten with this stuff i um recently heard a former daily zeitgeist guest um eli yudin post on twitter something to the effect of like i'm thinking about eating more protein and stuff like that i immediately jumped into his dms and was
Starting point is 00:15:00 just like here's the best greek yogurt like brand like you know what is's the best Greek yogurt brand. What is the best Greek yogurt brand? Oh, okay. So, yeah, this is something real opinionated about. Is it Siggy's? So, no, no, no. So, the brands that I like is a brand called Oikos that is 90 calories for 15 grams of protein. And then there's another brand called Chobani
Starting point is 00:15:17 that's 60 calories for 11 grams of protein. And they don't taste bad. There's a little bit of flavor to them. But it's just like if you, you know, like if it's the end of the day and you're about to go to bed but you're just like oh i'm short on protein by 10 grams then you can just like chug a greek yogurt while i'm trying to sleep this is what my life is i'm a cautionary tale don't try to become me i hate this i'm trying to remember when when like greek yogurt first came out as a mass marketed product I was still living in New York
Starting point is 00:15:48 and one of my co-workers, one of my best actual work friends was like, oh no man I don't fuck with Greek yogurt I'm trying to remember but not say the brand because it's a little, I guess libelous or whatever, but basically
Starting point is 00:16:03 Allegedly It allegedly turned his insides into goo Because it's a little, I guess, libelous or whatever. But basically, it came out. Allegedly. Allegedly. So what happened? It allegedly turned his insides into goo. Well, it's not about the product. He was like, I can't fuck. I can't fuck with that Greek yogurt.
Starting point is 00:16:15 And I was like, oh, well, why? I mean, it's good, I think. And he was like, yeah. Like the guy that founded the company, like my friend's wife cheated on him with. Oh, no. And like broke up the marriage. So it's like, yeah, I don on him with oh no and like like broke up the marriage so it's like yeah i don't fuck with greek yogurt i was like that's a really just like that one brand or like just one brand of greek yogurt and i don't remember which it is i don't think yeah if i were to guess it would be not polite i suppose but yeah that yeah, that's my... Let's just go with it anyways.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Top three Greek yogurt brands that we think the guy might be a slimy cheater. Which is the cheat-ness taste in yogurt? That's my question. I gotta say, Jack, where were you with that balloon telling them to stay six inches apart when they were out?
Starting point is 00:17:02 Thank you. Exactly. Answer yourself, Mr. Oikos. Your work is never done. Yes. No, Oikos is very virtuous. I'm going to defend Oikos to the death. It was probably one of the brands that, like, tells their whole founder story on the label.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Yeah. I feel like that, too. You know, like... Yeah, and the founder story was definitely, he likes to fuck. This guy loves to fuck so hard say on there he likes greek yogurt because it's kind of like this is why he likes the this is why he got the whole extra yeah i also remember hearing that greek yogurt like the process for making greek yogurt
Starting point is 00:17:42 it makes the greek yogurt very good very great macros on that shit. Even though you are the Charles Barkley of macros and don't want people to think of you as a role model. I do think of you as a role model. Oh, no. I'm excited about these macros. But then like the other thing, the water or the liquid that gets strained out to make it like that hyper condensed greek yogurt is like poison is something that i remember covering back in the day and like they don't know what to do with it they're like oh no no i'm sure me like being like eating this very specific macro diet is cutting
Starting point is 00:18:17 50 years off of my life no i i think it was like as a as byproduct. As a waste byproduct. Yeah, exactly. It's like acidic or something. Yes, it's hyper acidic. It just makes me like it more. I mean, I guess what it is, is it's very clearly just the opposite of the Greek yogurt. Yes. That's what they're saying, is that the macros on this waste byproduct are terrible. That's why it's a waste byproduct.
Starting point is 00:18:44 You took milk and split it into good and evil. Yeah, exactly. But the macros on this waste byproduct are terrible. That's why it's a waste byproduct. You took milk and split it into good and evil. Yeah, exactly. That's right. What is something, Joey, that you think is overrated? So, okay, so this is going to be probably controversial, but I think it's overrated to dunk on Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey's relationship. I'm happy for them.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Oh, come on, man. No, I guess that there is just something nice about like, you know, like it's like both of them are winning at life. Like he's like a Super Bowl champion. She's like the biggest pop star in the world. Like there's just, I don't know, something nice about it. Ah, fuck that. Yes, yes, yes. I'm a Pentagon psyop. That's also part of this. Yes, I knew it.
Starting point is 00:19:29 I hate them as much as I hate any other two white people together. I don't hate them especially, but they know what they did. I think that, you know, it's Valentine's Day. It's okay for people to like each other not on my watch not in my america i do i am eager to see it like there's been fun you know
Starting point is 00:19:56 memes about like what travis getting ready for her birthday and being like babe you're going to love this. It's both a cafe and a rainforest. Like, I am curious what he does for her on Valentine's Day. Yeah, I got to say, so I am happy for their relationship. But watching the Super Bowl, part of me really wanted the Chiefs to just horribly lose the game and for Travis to still try to propose to her at the end of the game. And she says no. Yeah, yeah. I literally didn't watch the game. And she says no. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I literally didn't watch the game. I like half bad attention. Yeah, so the Chiefs won in overtime.
Starting point is 00:20:33 But it definitely was looking dicey for a little while. Oh, yeah. It was a dicey affair. It was back and forth. Yeah, yeah. Every time they cut to her, she was with a different famous person. It was wild. It was like there a different famous person. It was wild. It was like,
Starting point is 00:20:46 there was a steady rotation. It was kind of impressive. But, yeah. I mean, those feel like they have to be, like, blocked. Like, it's just like,
Starting point is 00:20:56 there's probably a Google Doc and, like, a PA getting people Oh, 100%. ready for the next shot. Yeah. What if Vice Vice was in there?
Starting point is 00:21:04 Yeah, for sure. That's just like a live TV thing. There's for sure a producer whose job is to like, okay, we've got the Ice Spice shot. You know, like it's just, live TV is produced a little bit. Yeah. They kind of look like Renaissance paintings every time they cut away at her. There's like just agony, ecstasy, everybody just kind of looking in the same direction. Also, just while we're on the topic, it's so funny to me that the NFL has the words end racism written on their sidelines right above the Kansas City Chiefs logo.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yes. It's like, oh, there's a really easy way you could start by ending racism. End racism. I mean, not now. Yeah, like some time. Oh, no, no, not that particular. No, no, no, no. End like some now. Yeah, like some. Not that particular. No, no, no, no. And like some racism.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Yeah. Yeah. What's that phrase that's like capture where like the corporations like capture the people who are supposed to be keeping tabs on them? What? Regulatory capture. Oh. keeping tabs on them what regulatory capture like we were talking about regulatory capture last week and like how it's you know and all these bureaucrats who are like designed to keep businesses in line just because immediately get like yeah over to the side of the corporation i feel like that is what has happened with anti-racism.
Starting point is 00:22:28 They've just captured that idea and been like, now it's a slogan on our field next to a racist logo. It just didn't come out on the telecast. But if you look closely, there are scare quotes around end. They're really faint. Oh, God. scare quotes around end. They're really faint. Yeah. There's an illustration of them doing the jack-off motion. Every time they cut away to Roger Goodell,
Starting point is 00:22:58 he was like, slow motion. What Joey is something you think is underrated? Okay, so this is going to be a deep poll but um lately i've been really obsessed with the 2015 pc survival horror rpg dead state so uh this is like an isometric turn-based rpg it's like a post-apocalyptic game that takes place in uh austin texas it came out to like some fanfare in 2014 but like the reviews were a little bit unkind to it because it was 2014, but like the reviews were a little bit unkind to it because it was made by a small team and just a little bit like, you know, you could
Starting point is 00:23:29 feel that it had like maybe bigger ideas than the team could put together. But it's just like a fantastic game. I've been obsessed with it over the past like two months. And I think everybody should play it if you like, you know, Fallout, XCOM or just like, you know, weird, dorky RPGs definitely give a Dead State a try it's super anniversary yeah yeah that bums me out yeah 10 years yeah yeah nice our next expert episode is with one of our good friends favorite guests on here who is a bit of a gaming expert and we were just talking about the future of gaming and how like indie games with the advent of like ai like that could be it's the first time i've been like oh ai could be good in this one very specific
Starting point is 00:24:11 way like you know helping people code and like make games with like smaller and smaller teams so like indie games get better and better because what i love about the indie game space is that like oftentimes the teams are just like you know one to four people and they'll come up with a game new game every three or four years. So it really feels like you're following a band that you like. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, they just dropped a new album. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:34 No, no. For real. And like, I think that there is just something fun and exciting about the space. you know can be like raw in some ways but it feels like there's like one directorial voice to it as opposed to like you know a game made by 4 000 people with like you know a billion dollar budget that's just you can tell like been kind of executive noted all the interesting stuff out of it right sorry this part was interesting like yeah no i know we were pretty excited about no no no oh i'm sorry no you thought that was a good thing? No, we're trying to sell a billion games here.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Part of the reason I think I'm probably promoting Dead State is that I don't think that anybody else has played it since 2017. The Steam forums are dead on it. So I'm just like, I need to talk about this so more people play it, just so I can figure out the secrets as to how to get more
Starting point is 00:25:23 loot and stuff. Help them out yeah yeah so truly deeply underrated dead state yeah it's great check it out wait what is an isometric what is so isometric is like um so think like the legend of zelda is like top down like isometric is like the camera angle is like slightly at an angle so it's maybe like a three-fourth it's not totally right about everything on the side so um it's like the original fallout fallout one and two kind of had that sort of view and like the original x-com games and stuff like that it's just like a really specific like kind of rpg style yeah yeah got it all right let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Joe Biden being a young, hip, cool guy. TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host
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Starting point is 00:28:21 where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And just briefly, Jonart came uh did his like first return i didn't watch it uh writer jam watched it was like this pretty i was he was dreading it and thought it was kind of funny most of his opening segment was devoted to the ages of both presidential candidates. And therein lies the problem. People were like, what the fuck, dude? You're only supposed to talk shit about Republicans, bro. He focused on, as did we
Starting point is 00:29:55 yesterday, Biden's slip up where he had called the press conference to be like i'm not you think i'm old and came on and was like throwing sick burns at fox news and was like real revved up and was like leaving the field of play having like done what he came to do and then someone asked him a question about israel and he like went back to the podium and confused Mexico and Egypt and people were like, oh, buddy, you almost you were so close. But anyways, I mean, he he also so he pointed out Biden's slip ups. He also said that Trump's statements during his rallies weren't a wellness check like he was talking about both of them. But people people were pissed. I think my favorite joke from it is that he took the clip of Kamala Harris being like,
Starting point is 00:30:53 I assure you, in closed door meetings, Biden is smart and on his game and on top of it all. He's doing backflips. He was like, did anyone dab in all over the place? That would be good to show to people. But anyways, people like Keith Olbermann, who we were all waiting to hear what we all knew Keith Olbermann was still alive and we're waiting to hear what he thought on anything. But he came out and was like, just both sides is fraud. He's mad. Rolling Stone referred to Jon like just both sides is fraud he's mad rolling stone referred to john stewart's both sides are equally bad approach which doesn't seem like exactly what he's saying i think you can be frustrated that joe biden doesn't seem to be the best candidate specifically because trump is such a terrifying prospect yeah kind of is where I'm sitting at the moment.
Starting point is 00:31:47 So, yeah. Yeah. How are you guys feeling? Feeling good about our options? Yeah. Weirdly, yeah, it's like, this is like kind of the first time I was like, because I feel like the previous
Starting point is 00:32:04 incarnation of daily show john stewart would not really ever like actually criticize like the kind of our center-right democratic party right so like this feels like good ish actually I'm surprised. More in line with where I think people's minds are. Yeah. I think that, you know, I mean, ultimately, Jon Stewart's a comedian. His job is to be funny. But he's also put himself in this really interesting
Starting point is 00:32:35 media criticism and analysis role. Yeah. He makes some jokes to criticize the media. And, you know, I think that Biden and Trump are the presidential candidates who look and sound old as fuck. Don't get mad at Jon Stewart for pointing it out. Like, you know, get think that Biden and Trump are the presidential candidates who look and sound old as fuck. Don't get mad at Jon Stewart for pointing it out. Like, you know, get mad at Biden's campaign team for letting me be presented in that way. Or get excited about RFK Jr. like we are on this podcast.
Starting point is 00:32:58 If you read between the lines, you could really tell which direction this pod is, where Jack is going. Slightly read between the lines. Anti really tell which direction this pod is which where jack is going slightly read between anti-vax this is really really i have put covid in scare quotes multiple times and did say i'm excited about rfk jr i don't know if you're picking up the tiny little bread crumbs that's what happens when i'm out on macros and I'm so excited. Look, do I love RFK Jr. because he probably knows what a macro is? Yes. Is that what I base my presidential candidate votes on? Yes.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Also, yes. I will say, actually, Joey, I think you just said, I don't know if I agree that, like, in the job of host of the daily show john stewart is a comedian well okay well that's like it's on it's on comedy central it's like yeah theoretically he's supposed to be doing i know i know i just think it's like it i don't think the show would do well if he was just doing jokes like most of the bits that do well with their audience are like, I think, unfortunately, not jokes. Well, yeah, it is so weird. Like I, you know, I went to school for journalism. I graduated from like the Edward R. Moreau College of Communication.
Starting point is 00:34:14 And it's like, so I like I really respect journalism. And it's so weird to me that he's kind of found himself, Jon Stewart, in this position where he's kind of one of the most respected journalists in the country and he's like a he's not a journalist you know yeah i think and there's the problem yeah and it's like it's sort of uh and like he's he's the person where you know i think on his on his apple tv show there was this expectation of like finally he's going to do hard-hitting interviews and it's like yeah it's we're putting so much on john stewart's shoulders yeah yeah well really yeah it's that part is the biggest bummer to me i'm just like this this is just none of this should exist in this way yeah we should have good like television journalism should be better like when i and part of the problem is just like it's like the 24-hour news
Starting point is 00:35:02 cycle there is just this need to fill time with opinion more than like actual news. And it's like if you watch like, you know, just any of the 24 hour news channels, it's like 90 percent of their programming is just like a panel of like experts or whatever. Just kind of riffing on what they're hearing about. Yeah. As opposed to like actual like research the thing journalism. And yeah, I don't know. It's like it's i'm excited that john stewart's back like i thought he did uh you know a good job in his first episode back but it is such a bummer that like there is this feeling of like oh finally real news can come back on comedy central yes yeah i didn't realize comedy central was still a
Starting point is 00:35:44 channel to be honest i did i legitimately also was like i was like i guess i would have heard had daily show been canceled but the big announcement that he was coming back i was like oh god yeah like it was it was a weird like you know it was this weird feeling of like you know ultimately i'm a big proponent of like giving new people a shot and you know bringing in like you know p ultimately I'm a big proponent of like giving new people a shot and, you know, bringing in like, you know, PSU voices or voices from marginalized communities to hold those positions. But like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I do think that Jon Stewart, like he like his basically said that he's only going to come back until I think the election. So it does feel like he's kind of back for like a really specific purpose and he's not going to like stick around forever. And a lot of his jokes even were just like, I'm in my sixties. It's weird. I'm back.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Like, you know, he gets it. Right. Well, it'll be interesting to see what he has to say in his next appearance because, uh, he's not going to have Joe Biden to beat up on for being old.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I'll tell you that much. Cause Joe Biden has proven he young he joined tiktok he's his campaign has entered it's steve buscemi holding a skateboard phase and they joined tiktok he posted a video on super bowl sunday answering questions that included which team he was rooting for and which candidate he supports for president, which feels like they were trying to like fuck him up. His grandkids were trying to like confuse him. But the video was posted along with the message. Lol. Hey, guys, which is just completely impossible to imagine Joe Biden ever say.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Do you think that there was an unused take on that? Who are you going to vote for for President Biden and Trump question where he said, Trump, fuck. He's a straight shooter. I feel like the Biden campaign has gone through the process of, I think guys, I know what you're saying. I'm not going to start. I'm not going to join TikTok. I know what everybody's waiting for. Okay. We, I'd never, that thought never crossed my mind. Oh God. But yeah. I gotta got to say, one of my favorite TikTok formats is just stuff getting smashed. Like, there's this video of, like, two toilets hanging from ropes swung at each other like pendulums, and they hit each other and explode. If the Biden campaign leaned into that type of TikTok, I'd be all in.
Starting point is 00:38:38 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just on the, like, things from the White House getting, like, Which one's going to survive? It's like the Lincoln desk and a statue of Andrew Jackson. You have to imagine who you got. TikTok has to be pissed about this happening. The least cool thing that's ever happened on TikTok. Their app is done.
Starting point is 00:39:02 Now we're just counting down the days to when TikTok is over. Yeah. It also doesn't help that if you watch the video, it looks like Joe Biden's in a hospital waiting room. I mean, it really does. Where the fuck is he? That's a really good point. Like the art on the walls is in the waiting room of the last hospital. It's straight up is a the waiting room of the last hospital.
Starting point is 00:39:28 I was like, it's straight up is a hospital waiting room. He's wearing old guy khakis. Do you know what I would actually bet it is, which probably has the same decor as a hospital waiting room is like a boomer internet consultancy. Yeah, I think that to me is a little bit of the issue with like, I totally get, you know, Biden starting a tick tock. Yeah, there's, you know, huge zoomer audience there. Like, it makes sense. But I think that this really feels like a tick tock that was like, pitched by a 20 year old to like a boomer social media executive. And like, they tried to kind of meet in the middle. And it just like does it just feels like this weird tiktok uncanny valley yeah having him show up with the words well hey guys is so funny to me for some reason yeah it's like is that him talking is that him being like well hey guys i'm so random right yeah i'm so random blurb also i mean like are you really gonna sign on to the fucking social media network that's mostly right now known for calling you a war criminal i think you you gave up on the zoomer vote a while ago dog and yeah this is not going to bridge that gap. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to be all that read in on the war criminal stuff because he did, following the Super Bowl, drop that meme, that dank Brandon, dark Brandon meme on our ass where he was like, just like we drew it up with a picture of him, you know, dark Brandon, eyes glowing. And unfortunately, it was also after Israeli airstrikes reportedly targeting houses and mosques killed dozens of people. It's like, wow, real dark, dark Brandon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Also, that is how he drew it up. So, consistent. Yeah. No, I mean, it's just perfectly timed. We didn't have to drag this into podcast's least fun topic. I know. But it is just wild. This attempt to join in the fun,
Starting point is 00:41:40 make his campaign fun at this time, it's just... I don't think it's gonna be as easy as they're hoping yeah i think that's so much of what does well on social media is just like you know you need to be genuine you need to feel like you're real in some way and it feels like the biden campaign isn't this weird kind of trying to have their cake and eat it to middle ground where they're trying to kind of memefy and freshen up biden but when it gets down to it he's still an 82 year old politician sure and you know it just comes across as very like hey look everybody grandpa's rapping like it would genuinely be a thousand times better if he was just rapping just dude
Starting point is 00:42:19 i'm the president and i'm here to say yeah yeah. I mean, so in 2020, the campaign, some say sweatily, campaigned in Animal Crossing and threw celebrities on Cameo. And people are comparing that to this. I'm just going to say 2020. Let me think. Who won that election? Who won that election? Yeah, that's right. He won.
Starting point is 00:42:44 You don't know if Animal Crossing saved us from four more years of Trump. think who won that election yeah who won that yeah that's right he won yeah that's right no if animal crossing saved us from four more years of trump jack i'm sorry you're the character of jack o'brien says trump won that election oh shit that's right i have to go yeah yeah yeah yeah you said one was take it again yeah yeah when you said Biden won the election, you were definitely doing the jack-off like eye roll. Yeah, yeah. Air quotes. Oh, yeah. Biden won the election. Biden won the election. By the way, every time I say President Biden, I think the jack-off hand
Starting point is 00:43:13 motion is implied on the President part. That's where me and the Let's Go Brandon people really intersect. It's like, yeah, I also think that. For the opposite reasons, but I do think that. That is also so funny to me that like, Let's Go Brandon was, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:34 I feel like treated as this like epic liberal dunk when it's like, I also think Joe Biden's not great. Right. Also, there was a song that played on the radio called Fuck Donald Trump. right yeah also there was a song that played on the radio called fuck donald trump so take this ned flanders bullshit out of my face like right yeah what are you talking about that's your oh good one guys let's go brandon and it's like actually a reference to someone saying fuck biden so yeah so you don't let're not okay with cursing in public.
Starting point is 00:44:06 Cool. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, there's also people are pointing out there's a whole question of like the U.S. government is really politicizing TikTok and like the like whether it should be allowed and whether it's a security risk. And he straight up banned most federal government devices from using TikTok in 2022 due to bipartisan security concerns. Do you think the Biden account password is the same as his Skiff password? The man can only memorize so many passwords.
Starting point is 00:44:42 I just think there's a high chance it's just Joe Biden in all lowercase but nobody would ever think to put it all lowercase jack yeah i i don't know like security around his i i guess i would say it would be a nightmare if he actually used technology himself but yeah they the thing that his administration is saying is that actually this is like we use a device that is only for posting on Joe Biden's TikTok. So we're good here. Yeah, it's locked in like a glass case. The sandbox firewalled TikTok presidential TikTok machine. Back to the Jon Stewart Daily Show thing.
Starting point is 00:45:31 Something that I do appreciate about what he was saying is like he was basically saying, you know, exactly. You brought it up earlier of like, oh, if he's really energetic and meeting, show us that like he's giving advice to the Biden campaign. Yeah. And it's like that feels like good. You know, it's like both presidential candidates are old as fuck like you know i totally get it but it's like at least let's pretend that they're like still active you know like that's your i feel like that's your job is like you know a pr person or a press person or you know a media person or whatever is to like at least make the messaging palpable so that I don't have to pretend
Starting point is 00:46:05 that he's still with it. Listen, the other side of this, though, is we live through puppet Ronald Reagan. Yeah, Ronald Reagan had dementia in office. We just go full Warhammer 40K with this stuff and either of these two guys, we just acknowledge that it's a cadre of advisors and whatever who's doing the real stuff. And either of these two guys, we just acknowledge that it's a cadre of advisors and, you know, whatever, who's doing the real
Starting point is 00:46:28 stuff. And we just put them on a fucking golden throne when they win. They just sit there on display. Yeah. That'd be fun. Yeah. Make sure they eat some Slim Jims so they're well-preserved. So they don't know if they die. Yeah. Pickled and crackling
Starting point is 00:46:43 with psychic energy. When you become president, you're just America's trophy for four years. Yeah. You know what? You should be put inside of the Lincoln Monument. Wait, on that giant big stone chair? No, no, inside of it.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Like, you're sitting in the same way, but you're just sort of like, each one is one layer smaller inside. Yeah, like Snoke vibes. It's like a nesting doll, but presidents. I'm proposing, I guess, that the Lincoln Monument is a mech? Do we know it's not a mech?
Starting point is 00:47:16 I thought you were proposing that once you stop being president, they have to hollow you out and put the new president inside of you. Oh. You just have to elect smaller and smaller presidents each subsequent time. It's you just have to elect smaller and smaller. Yeah, each subsequent time. It's not the end of the world if we do that.
Starting point is 00:47:29 Yeah, I'm just saying. Yeah, I do think a big part of our problem is that the thing you're describing is basically the monarchy in the UK. And they realized a long time ago that monarchs shouldn't have power. And like that is just like you go sit somewhere on a fancy chair and everyone is just like, oh, she's taking the dogs for a walk today.
Starting point is 00:47:58 And then there are like unglamorous people nobody really gives a shit about who are actually being hired and fired from the job of, you know, running the country. And in America, it's still the same fucking person like that. All the all the royalty and all the shit giving is tied up with the same person who actually is supposed to have the job. And that's unhealthy. I would argue. Yeah.'s roll roll bad edward we're living through it we're living through the we're thriving consequences for these people taylor swift and travis kelsey are in love everything's great yes thank you i don't see what everybody's complaining about. Travis and Taylor, congratulations to everyone on living through it. It's a bad, it's bad, bad. It's bad.
Starting point is 00:48:51 Yeah. Yeah. You know, like I do feel like everybody should just acknowledge end of day. Hey, we made it through another one. Fucking hell. Like the way you do them, like, you know, recovery programs where you're like day at a time. This shit was hard. Oh, you know, I thought you were talking about like being in like trench warfare yeah well that too you know yeah that's the same vibe i guess we're still talking about taylor swift right yeah yeah talking about how i get through the period like after she announces a new album and before the album actually drops. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:25 It's just like, well, I'm supposed to just get out of bed and act like this is a normal day? Okay. Sure. Ridiculous. Fucking ridiculous, Andrew. All right. We're going to take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about important things like Madam Web. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:49:50 things like Madam Web. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts,
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Starting point is 00:51:06 a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do. Like resume specialist Morgan Santer. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take?
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Starting point is 00:51:55 where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that?
Starting point is 00:52:11 I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained?
Starting point is 00:52:34 This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. sports and culture listen to naked sports on the black effect podcast network iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast the black effect podcast network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back and so the big movie released this coming weekend after this past weekend as we talked about on trending yesterday nobody went to the movies like it's the lowest movie total like in terms of like money spent in the movies since the 80s argyle is number one at the box number one baby six million
Starting point is 00:53:22 and its second week is like wild how few people went to the movies hey a number one baby six million in its second week is like wild help people went to the movies hey a number one is a number one thank you yeah crushing it biggest movie in america thank you and god who can i didn't even like the whole trailer was based around and you'll never believe this twist this twist is gonna fuck you up and then the movie came out and like people didn't even bother spoiling it like i don't even people were just like no you don't don't don't even worry about like i didn't realize apparently it had been spoiled like initially because the initial script is i think not there's it's not a twist it's it's more like i I guess, spoiler alert, it's like Bourne Identity-ish, or Bourne Bourne. Oh, so she is the Bourne?
Starting point is 00:54:09 Oh, so she actually Argo? Yeah. She actually, Star actually Argo? Well, a certain number of the audience cared about this twist because it's number one! Number one! People came out in droves! Eat shit, losers, it's number one! This one. People came out in droves. Eat shit, losers. It's number one.
Starting point is 00:54:27 This is, I guess, more for you, Joey, but I genuinely assumed from the trailer that the cat was the secret agent. Yeah. A thousand percent was like, it's definitely the cat. It's definitely a talking cat. Yeah, I feel like I
Starting point is 00:54:43 have not seen Argyle. I'm sorry. I was not one of the millions of people that saw it this weekend to make it number one. But yeah, I got to say, as a big cat fan, the cat did intrigue me to potentially want to see it. But I don't know. I just didn't. Yeah. No, no.
Starting point is 00:54:57 I literally go fuck myself. You know, I would have put money, unbelievable amounts of money that it was the cat yeah because the cat felt like it was really central to the promotions i mean i i think that what is what's one of the things that's so interesting to me about argyle is it really feels like that what was that johnny depp movie like mordecai or something like that yeah yeah the mustache yeah where it kind of felt like the entire, the crux of the promotion of this movie is, look at all the celebrities
Starting point is 00:55:30 we got in this movie. Oh, sure. And it kind of feels like, Johnny Depp and a mustache, that's enough for you, right? It was like a 30 Rock movie. It was like a general joint. Oh, this is real yeah so madame webb
Starting point is 00:55:47 has similar energy like genitori energy the trailer has the line where one character sees it like is shown another character and she's like he was in the amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders right before she died. An actor has to say that. That was for sure an exec note, I'm sure. Like it can't. Yeah, yeah. I will just say I'm currently writing an incredibly bad draft of a movie.
Starting point is 00:56:17 And I have multiple characters saying dialogue like that. That is just like, I don't know. I just need to get this information. Yeah, that feels like a line that an exec was like was like i just don't understand why she's in the amazon yeah but where was he and she died of what like yeah but what was she doing there just gotta gotta get it through and not only do you have to like get that information through but you have to put it in the trailer like the amount of ground that they try to cover for the plot of this movie in the trailer is wild i like i feel like
Starting point is 00:56:55 this must be one of the hardest movies to ever make a trailer for because the trailer is like they're like and she can see the future and so can they and like but she this guy can kind of also see the future and so but it's it's a real mess and i've seen that like they really put like this trailer in front of us a lot yeah us being me and my eyes but anyways so people were kind of looking forward to this just from maybe a can't be perspective and the critics are not being nice they're being mean they're calling it the cats of superhero movies i gotta say as a as a genuine cats apologist who loved the cats movie uh this makes me want to see the movie i'm here yeah for it. Yeah. Madam Web isn't as bad as you've heard.
Starting point is 00:57:46 It's so much worse. The response is the headline from Rolling Stone. And who also called it the cats of superhero movies is Spider-Man spinoff. Madam Web bad. Listen, bud, it's just radioactive crud. I don't know why they did that. That's the glove of mail. But it has a 18% tomatoes so uh box office question
Starting point is 00:58:08 for all the box office hounds that are listening do we think madam webb is going to be able to topple argyle i think it would be really difficult for it not to topple argyle because argyle was like the lowest number one I think we've had in decades. But it's still number one. It's still number one. He's like Sony Spider-Man adjacent movies.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Like yes. Always do a billion times better than I think they're going to do. Like Morbius. Are you talking Morbius? Because Morbius was trending this morning. But all the Venoms. Yes. I guess it're going to do. Like Morbius. Are you talking Morbius? Because Morbius was trending this morning. But all the Venoms. I guess it's the Venoms. The Venoms I'm like okay.
Starting point is 00:58:52 Someone wants to watch this. Something that I really love. About the Sony Spider-Verse. I was a really big fan of the. Across the Spider-Verse films. They're genuinely great animated films. But it feels like. There's always this effort. They're genuinely great animated films. Oh, yeah. But it feels like there's always this effort, and I'm sure it's like a Sony note, to just cram their bad Spider-Man movies into Spider-Verse.
Starting point is 00:59:14 So it's like, we'll probably see some weird cameo from Madame Web as if she's Captain America showing up at the MCU in the next Spider-Verse movie. Wow. America showing up the MCU in the next Spider-Verse movie. Wow. Yeah. It really is like amazing how all these movies get curb stomped by their cartoons. Yeah. Just like every time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:35 So the reviews are so bad that Morbius was trending on Twitter, a reference to Sony's last attempt to spin Spider-Man adjacent characters off into their own like non-Spider-Man movie Morbius was the third entry in Sony's Spider-Man universe and quickly became one of the most infamous films of 2022 due to quote it's terrible quality but people are saying, because I think the inherent question, like this wasn't my question with Morbius because I didn't, I thought Morbius was part of the, that monster,
Starting point is 01:00:16 you like the universal, like, oh, sure. Oh yeah. The dark, the dark universe. I didn't know it was Morbius.
Starting point is 01:00:22 Dracula's friend. Yeah, exactly. That's what I thought was going on. But apparently, you know, this is part of Sony's ploy that they basically have to make a movie in the Spider-Man universe. They can't make it feature Spider-Man. And they have to do it every, like, two and a half or three years in order to keep the rights
Starting point is 01:00:47 to the spider-man universe so it's like the inherent yeah it's ridiculousness of the premise of like what they have to do is at the core of like what it sounds like sucks about this movie it's the same thing that happens with like Fantastic Four and previously X-Men. It's just this like, like cynical IP, like holding thing. Yes. And the fact that they,
Starting point is 01:01:17 they conned fucking Sidney Sweeney and Dakota Johnson into doing this is amazing. It's unbelievable. But I feel like if you pitched to them, like, hey, it's like Spider-Man, except with more powers, and also it's in the Spider-Man universe. I totally get why you would say yes to it. But yeah, it is so funny that they,
Starting point is 01:01:40 it's just like they're cursed to churn out a new weird Spider-Man universe adjacent movie every three years. Yeah. I mean, because the trailer looks like a fucking like Netflix thriller and then it ends on like they're all in spider people costume. And it's like, what the fuck is happening here? It's so it's. I guess now I understand why they have the line.
Starting point is 01:02:07 He was in the Amazon with my mom when she was researching spiders, Andrew, right before she died. Spiders give them their powers. And then they're like, but Spider-Man isn't around, so they're just going to have to be like, what are you?
Starting point is 01:02:24 Spider-Man isn't around yet they're just gonna have to be like what are you i just around yet i just dress like this yeah this is how i and did spider-man get the idea for his costume from them or are they getting it from spider-man but they just like can't say that and so they're i hope they're all fighting his style they're all spider-manMan's mommy. And that's how it's going to go. I just wanted to see a little Tom Holland crawl out of an egg sack. Crawl out of an egg sack and
Starting point is 01:02:53 then suck the juices out of a fly. Yeah. Delightful. Alright. Well, Joey, it was a pleasure having you on the show. Thank you so much for joining us. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, thanks so much for having me. Yeah, you can find me on Twitter, Blue Sky and TikTok at Joey
Starting point is 01:03:19 Tainman. And then you can follow me on Instagram and threads at Joey Clift with five or six eyes. Reason for that's a 12 year old took Joey Clift with one eye, so I just have to deal. And yeah, check out Gone Native at gonenative.tv. It's a series of animated comedy PSAs about just weird microaggressions Native American folks deal with on a regular basis. And then watch Spirit Rangers 1 and 2 on Netflix. And season three comes out this spring. So yeah, check out all the things.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Amazing. on Netflix and season three comes out this spring. So yeah, check out all the things. And watch Matt, watch Argyle. So it doesn't lose to Madam Web this weekend. It needs to keep its number one. So much money on this. It wouldn't take much. Yeah. Amazing. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:04:01 So honestly, I've, I've gotten really into the band Necco Case recently. She's like a singer-songwriter who's really popular in sort of the 90s and the 2000s. I think it's Nico Case. Nico Case. Okay, so that'll show you how new I am to being a Nico Case fan. I know.
Starting point is 01:04:18 Well, I'm just very old. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, she just like came across on my like Spotify shuffle and I was just like, wait, Nico Case is real good. So, yeah, I think I've just been enjoying Nico Case recently. God, she has this one album that I'm not. It's like the Fox Confessor, some shit.
Starting point is 01:04:34 It's like got a real 90s indie rock name. It fucking rules. Fox Confessor brings the flood is the album I'm thinking of that I highly, highly recommend. That shit is great. There's like all this reverb all over our vocals. It's a lot of fun. Second piece of media I've been enjoying is, you know, Joe Biden's TikTok. He's been real funny on there lately.
Starting point is 01:04:57 He's got a real good joke about the Chiefs. Yeah. Oh, man. He fucking loves Nico Case. He probably does. Andrew T., what a pleasure having you as our guest co-host
Starting point is 01:05:13 today. Where can people find you? Yeah, just find me. Yo, Is This Racist is my podcast. I don't know. Eventually something I write will be on TV again, I assume. But, I don't know. Watch old episodes of Mixed-ish. Those are fun enough, I think. The classics. know eventually something i write will be on tv again i assume but i don't know watch watch all the episodes of mixed-ish those are those are fun enough i think the classics yeah exactly is there
Starting point is 01:05:31 a work maybe you've been enjoying uh i actually was just reminded i was gonna do something else but i let my friends kids who are like i think like nine like 9, and 11. Never forget. And they used... I let them use my Spotify because they were just like over... I think we were all having dinner and the kids obviously got bored really quick. Anyway, which is all to say they have like fucking annihilated my algorithm. So the piece
Starting point is 01:06:00 of media... In a good way. I like just having something make Spotify think like like this guy's out of control, but they, they, uh, signed on to a Spotify playlist called big on the internet,
Starting point is 01:06:15 which is actually invaluable for an old man like me, because what it is is it's all the like source music for Tik TOK essentially. Yeah. Amazing. This is unbelievably useful i guess it's listed on the tiktok but it's i don't know i feel like that's not as reliable but yeah i just listen to this like fucking 18 hour long playlist when i have nothing else i actually want to listen to and i'm like oh that's okay that that you know four seconds of yeah great for finding songs with amazingly listenable five second chunks yeah five seconds or or five second
Starting point is 01:06:52 chunks that are like very descriptive and able to be pantomimed right yeah that's that's the tiktok sweet spot i think anyway that is great that has been the single most actually useful piece of media that I have had access to. Wait, I've... Okay, so I've got a question. Would both of you vote for Joe Biden if he did a TikTok where he did Fortnite dances? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 01:07:17 Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna fucking vote for him. I will say this. I'm not there yet. But would you be more likely to vote for him if he did TikTok, if he did Fortnite dances I'll just throw this out there We're all in California You don't have to vote For Joe Biden
Starting point is 01:07:30 That's right I think I'm probably Not going to vote For anyone for president Wow In California I'm not suggesting You do that
Starting point is 01:07:39 Where you're voting For president matters I'll also probably Vote for him But Pending TikTok dances Yeah If he did a little silly dance A few silly dances your vote for president matters i'll also probably vote for him but uh but pending tiktok dances yeah if he did a little silly dance a few silly dances it might make me a little more excited that's right if they just made the trump campaign just made an account of him trying to do any of
Starting point is 01:07:57 the yeah that would be like trump wouldn't be willing to do it because like yeah that's yeah nobody can tell him shit at this point. The first candidate that posts a video of them smashing two toilets together until they explode will get my vote. Oh, shit. You're going to vote for Trump, man. It's hard to let you know.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Oh, no. Oh, shit. That's a real clear Trump vote. That is right in the fuck up his alley. Loves to talk about toilets. loves to get mad at toilets because it flushes big turds. Yeah. Yeah. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Tweet I've been enjoying. I've been enjoying Christy Avoguchi main. Just ask people for their favorite tweets of all time. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's been a lot of goodies. This one from Michaela Reed retweeting. One from Robot Robot tweeted, if you smell toast, you might be having a stroke.
Starting point is 01:08:54 A stroke of luck, that is. It's toast time. It's from November of 2017. So I love people just having their favorites kind of squirreled away from seven years ago. One of my favorites, speaking of a classic for me, speaking
Starting point is 01:09:12 of the Spider-Man universe, I forgot who tweeted it, but it was just, more BS. I thought we were out here looking for less BS. Too good. Very good to me. Amazing. Well, shout out to christy i'm gucci man one of the best on twitter zeitgang or one of the best out here doing it uh you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website daily
Starting point is 01:09:40 zeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes we link off to the information we've talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy and super producer justin connor uh besides me just singing song you might enjoy right there is there any music that you think the people might enjoy. Yeah, that was beautiful, Jack. We could just leave it with that. We could. Drop that shit on Spotify, see if it races up the big, huge on the internet tracks.
Starting point is 01:10:14 I have a feeling it will. It's Valentine's Day, so I wanted to leave you all with the sensual, smooth, sexy sounding track to add to your playlist tonight. Now it's just over a minute long So speaking of amazing Five second chunks as Jack put it
Starting point is 01:10:29 Some of you won't need that much time But this is a very Vibey soulful track called Velvet Blue by Ray Lozano And you can find that song in the footnotes Footnotes This is a production of iHeartRadio For more podcasts from iHeartRadio iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen
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