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Episode Date: October 9, 2020

In episode 733, Jack and Miles are joined by Ethnically Ambiguous co-host Shereen Younes to discuss Trumps comments on the election, the Kamala Harris and Mike Pence debate, the white terrorists plann...ing on kidnapping Gretchen Whitmer, Ron DeSantis trying to kill Florida, Dreams going to number one on the charts, what we're watching for Monday, and more!FOOTNOTES: "We shouldn't be hurting our workers because China put the curse on" -- Trump is now accusing China of putting a "curse" on the US "Unless Bill Barr indicts these people for crimes -- the greatest political crime in history of our country -- then we'll get little satisfaction ... and that includes Obama and that includes Biden" -- Trump calls for Obama and Biden to be charged with crimes Trump is ranting and raving about indicting Hillary Clinton Trump refers to Kamala Harris as "this monster" Six Takeaways From the Vice-Presidential Debate Plans to kidnap Whitmer, overthrow government spoiled, officials say Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Won’t Stop Dolphins From Packing 65,000 Seat Stadium Fleetwood Mac’s TikTok-fueled Renaissance, by the Numbers WATCH: The Budos Band - The Wrangler Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:09 That is courtesy of J Music Chicago. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I can see him gasping for some air. Looks like he's flawed. flawed well I've been waiting for this moment since Friday night oh lord oh lord
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Starting point is 00:04:13 she is the hilarious the talented shireen lani aka i just made this up right now Shoo fly don't bother me Shoo fly don't bother me Shoo fly don't bother me I'm a fly on Pence's head I live here now because he's Already dead
Starting point is 00:04:37 That's all He's a demon Does that fly have a Shoo deal yet? A Crocs collab collab yet i don't know well my nickname is shoe shoe so i know i know i know the main part of that was i should have said shoe shoe fly don't bother me i don't know you know people who know you people who know the fucking the lore behind the brand they know the back story shoe shoes fly uh because people still say fly is a good thing right uh right yeah that was did people see the fly emerge from his mouth when he first started speaking like he like he was
Starting point is 00:05:15 like he was agger and men in black i mean i re-watched the live stream multiple like i re-watched that part and it just appears. I didn't see it. Did anyone see it actually fly around and land? Because for me, it just kind of appeared. It felt like a reveal, where he was looking, and then he turned, and it was like, Uh-oh! Is that a raisin? What is that?
Starting point is 00:05:41 I thought it was one of those microphones that Broadway stars have on the top of their head just to capture the resonance. To try and be subtle? Wait, that's a thing? Well, they have them in their hairline, right? Oh, shit. I don't know. I'm famously ignorant about that. Sometimes it's right on top if they're bald.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Oh, shit. Okay, I need one of those. Famously. Everybody talks about it. Pence is a big Broadway head, as we know. He went to Hamiltonilton that's true well received he did have a radio show back in the 90s yeah i mean yeah rush limbaugh on decaf isn't that when he said uh cigarettes were like uh cigarettes are like super safe was that when
Starting point is 00:06:21 he was on uh radio a okay times yeah he is the thing that he is is a vessel for big corporations he's like the coke brothers inside guy he is big tobaccos inside guy before that became uh just impossible to uh sustain but uh yeah he's just he's the guy who lobbyists pay to do the thing. And he somehow was bland enough to just float all the way to the upper ranks of the Republican Party. Almost like a flesh vessel without a mind of its own, like some kind of living dead thing akin to a zombie. He's the undead. I saw this tweet that made me laugh that he looks like the bottom of a stingray.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I think that's really true. Is it because their little weird flat face or in your mind you get to decide what the bottom of a stingray looks like and it's that? Because I laughed on both levels. The bottom of a stingray looks like and it's that because I laughed on both levels the bottom of a stingray to me looks like ghoulish you know like it just looks
Starting point is 00:07:29 it's like the stuff of nightmares like it shouldn't be that way really there's like that internet photo of like what looks like the underside of a ray and it looks like it's smiling and shit I don't know it's not even like a smile it's smiling and shit. Exactly. I don't know. Who knows? I'm not into rape culture. It's not even like a smile.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It's just like a weird... It's a form. Yeah. That John Oliver book, Marlon Bundo, it's like a children's book about gay marriage and they have a character. It's based on Mike Pence's rabbit, Marlon Bundo, and Mike Pence is portrayed as a stink bug and they i can't
Starting point is 00:08:08 look at mike pence without seeing the caricature that they made of him as a stink bug and neither can my four-year-old he's like ah stink bug you're raising him well yes uh all right shereen we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We are on What the Fuck Was That? Part 5. We're going to check in with where the president is and his euphoric meltdown thing that he's been doing. We're going to talk about the militia,
Starting point is 00:08:44 the Wolverine Watchmen, who were planning to kidnap the governor of Michigan. We're going to talk about Florida and Louisiana trying to kill football fans with COVID-19. We're going to talk about Pope Francis, Big Frankie. We're going to talk a little brain bleach news. We're going to talk about what we're going to talk a little brain bleach news we're going to talk about what we're going to re-watch over the weekend all of that plenty more but first shireen we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are well this is actually something i did google not even just once but multiple times because i forgot what the results were but most recently i googled it the other day I googled how to buy a house with no money um and the results made me so depressed I mean the
Starting point is 00:09:31 results were just like telling me about government loans and like uh money down and all these words I don't really understand but I don't know I just it's so disheartening flushing my rent down the toilet each month kind of thing um but i don't know if it's possible to own anything now and that makes me sad i just want to own something it all depends on like the where you are and what it's worth and like because la is one of these cities now too where i think it's only second to i forget i think las vegas uh that is beginning to have like the like the biggest jump in like lack of rents and mortgages paid because like you know vegas has just been gutted by the lack of tourism and then la and like new york is kind of the same way just ridiculously expensive place to live already but then you start
Starting point is 00:10:23 you know deflating the economy and it becomes just a completely ridiculous situation so yeah yeah it's sometimes you like look on zillow and you're like what the fuck am i doing in california like i need to go to motherfucking kansas i was on zillow and i found all these houses and i was like what am i doing here like why am i still here but i mean i was surprised seeing how many other people had that same question like there are so many articles saying like how to buy money how to buy a house with no money down how to buy a house with uh like to avoid paying the 20 down payment kind of thing and it's just all of these little tactics um because everyone has the same thought
Starting point is 00:11:02 they're just like i don't know so how to buy money with no money down used to be the highest search thing in like 2005 right no like in the subprime lending where they're like oh yeah no money yep no problem and then it was just like well because like now it's they realize okay that's too big of a thing to just sort of trust people or they that or rather give credit to people without really verifying just to kind of keep shit moving that like you know the next subprime lending crisis they say is with cars uh where they were just like you could just pull up and be like yeah i want a car and they're like okay bye uh and they're like wait hold on they haven't been paying yeah uh shereen what is something you think is underrated okay hear me out nitrogen you know
Starting point is 00:11:48 why our atmosphere is made up of 78 nitrogen and only 21 oxygen and then the other one percent is like stupid shit like carbon dioxide neon and hydrogen but 78 percent is nitrogen like why does it anyone talk about like oh thank god for all this nitrogen in the air like no we never hear anything about press yeah oxygen has a much better pr person right it's it loves being in the spotlight it loves talking about itself but nitrogen nitrogen deserves our thanks that's why i respect the cold brew nitrogen cold nitro cold brew that's how i pay my respect to the elements you know what i mean but when i learned that i was so i was so angry i was just like nitrogen needed it needs its due you know like It needs the attention it deserves.
Starting point is 00:12:46 78%. That is a lot. And we're just all about oxygen. I don't know. It made me mad. I like an underdog story. Then we got nitrous. Nitrous is more fun than pure oxygen.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I think pure nitrogen is not nitrous, but nitrous is cooler. I think nitrogen gets a good rap in the culinary world. You know what I mean? Sure. Like a sci-fi where it's like, oh, the nitrogen froze the person and they shattered into a billion pieces. So in a way, I feel like nitrogen does get to shine because we just breathe. I mean, but I know your point. Like we're not talking about like, well, what happened if we don't have no nitrogen?
Starting point is 00:13:29 Yeah. Right. No, but like it's so because like even now I was I learned this very recently. I any kid, any adult, most adults will just be like, oh, what makes up our air or what we breathe? It's oxygen. Exactly. It's like, no, it's not. up our air are what we breathe it's oxygen exactly it's like no it's not it's actually mostly nitrogen and oxygen just gets all of the all of the credit because it's just like that kid
Starting point is 00:13:53 in the group project that like does nothing but then it's like the star because i don't know they're good looking or something i don't right i don't know tired Tired of it. I'm not bitter. You know what? Fuck out of here, nitrogen. Or oxygen. We do breathe. Like, we need oxygen. We can't breathe nitrogen.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Is that it? So it's like a self-centered point of view. That's why we're so into oxygen is because. Well, we breathe a combination of everything. Like, our atmosphere is made up of all of it, right? But our blood needs to be oxygenated, right? That's true. You can breathe. combination of everything. Our atmosphere is made up of all of it. But our blood needs to be oxygenated. That's true. You can breathe. You bring up a good point.
Starting point is 00:14:32 But it's just self-centered. And nitrogen's out here doing all the work. And humans are just like, but it only matters what we can breathe. Exactly. So there's my nerdy underratedrated what is something you think is overrated besides oxygen i know i i was thinking like the easy one would be to say oxygen but because i like to uh hurt myself no um last time i was here i said that i was watching seinfeld and i have finished seinfeld since the since that time
Starting point is 00:15:05 actually i finished this week or yeah monday i don't know how time works um but i am glad i watched it and i think i when i last time i was here i said i liked it and i don't dislike it but i do i also you sound like like Kamala Harris talking about the Green New Deal in your debate right now just come out with it I think that Jerry Seinfeld himself is pretty overrated like he's the weakest link in the entire show
Starting point is 00:15:38 like he's the weakest link that's not a hot take for sure I don't think it's a hot take i just i'm new to seinfeld sure like being like this is seinfeld like this is the person that's like lauded as this like comedy guy like comedy icon and i'm like you're cracking in every scene i don't get it like i i don't know i by far the worst actor and like i think we let him get away with it because we were like he's the brains behind the show because at the time we didn't realize larry david was exactly the guy right but like i'm like late to all of this i'm like
Starting point is 00:16:16 three decades behind everyone else two i don't have time um but but yeah like he gets all this credit it's the name of the show but it's larry david behind most of the funny like episodes and all of that um and seldom is there a moment where you're like oh pull up that clip where jerry's doing something right never you always want to see every other character i want to see i'd rather hear references to characters that aren't that never appear like lomez then be like oh man that one scene with jerry he's crushing it it's never because he's just always like the bad straight character yeah um so i mean i guess it's not a hot take but i'm just late to realize that jerry
Starting point is 00:16:57 seinfeld's overrated uh i like this thing where like are you when you were watching it were you kind of like looking around be like wait hold up, hold up, man. Like, am I watching this right? Because this dude is like the worst one out of all of them. That's what I was, no, exactly. That was exactly how I felt. And I texted my friend being like, is it weird that I think he sucks? And he's like, no, this is like part of it. And I'm like, oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Like trying to treat it with respect. It's like, do I, is there, am I missing like a backstory or something about him that i'm not that i maybe missed early on because i'm just like i think it's my fault obviously all the time i'm like oh i must be missing something essential here to understand the the crux this can't be that bad do you think we were like recognizing some emptiness because he has turned out to be just kind of like a shitty person like do we do we think we were recognizing some like emptiness there is it just that they put a stand up comedian next to a bunch of really great actors and that's why uh he's noticeably it was interesting watching it with that knowledge like knowing who he is now and then watching this like weird time
Starting point is 00:18:05 capsule of him i honestly think larry david just needed like a white man vessel to like like say his thoughts out loud like that's like the more i think about it the more i'm just like he could have been really anybody that larry david got along with enough to be like you can act instead of me right um yeah it could have been jeff foxworthy you know things it really honestly could have easily been jeff foxworthy now that yeah yeah george is like the i feel like george and jerry are are both side like two sides of the larry avatar. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Yeah. I did a lot of like backstory catching up like oh the cast members felt this way and like oh he's based off of or George is based off
Starting point is 00:18:56 of Larry David and all this other stuff. So I did some like research on my own because I just wanted to understand it more. Yeah. But they were also
Starting point is 00:19:04 like the cast was like had really petty moments. It's really strict. It was just so weird. And I'm just realizing the more I become an adult, any super fan of any show, it's like a red flag to me that's just like,
Starting point is 00:19:19 oh, we can't get along. Then again, I would rather have someone be obsessed with Seinfeld than Friends because, I don't know. That's not a hot take. That's just a fact of life. I mean, Friends goes down easy,
Starting point is 00:19:35 so I could see somebody being obsessed with the feeling that Friends gives them. It's like a little cocoon, but yeah. Who had more black people on it? Oh, definitely. They both had very little. That was the other thing. They're both this like New York,
Starting point is 00:19:52 like fake New York world where like not a single black person's around, except for in season six, there was like someone that cuts off Jerry and he's like a black guy named like Lamar. It's just like this weird, I don't know. It's just... Not that I don't know it's just uh yeah not that there's anything wrong with that the like that's how they treated uh
Starting point is 00:20:12 gay people and being gay at the time was like don't want to be offensive to people who are gay and then like George like the gay terror George feels when he thinks his dick moved during a massage from a male masseuse. They're all part of the same 90s mentality of, what do you mean there are humans besides straight white men? Yeah, after I finished watching it, I was just like, okay, now I'll understand every reference a straight white guy makes.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Like I am finally cut up on this sliver of Americana. Um, I am no longer in the dark. Um, yeah. Between that and every Adam Sandler film, you should be straight. I have to do that still.
Starting point is 00:20:58 I'm not caught. Oh my God. Shireen just looks so exhausted. I still have to do that again. Yeah, half of my brain is rotted with that kind of 90s shit. He's still making them, man. Number one movie on Netflix right now. Might have to be the rewatch.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Yeah. Sandler, still doing it. And finally, Shireen, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Or vice versa. I'll be honest with you. This one gives me trouble. Kind of gives everyone trouble.
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah. All right, name your favorite Pokemon. My favorite Pokemon? Yeah. Probably my favorite Pokemon might be Dragonite or Gengar is like the ghost Pokemon that's like a little mischievous little fuck. And then, but the myth I was going to say, one of my myths is just a stupid realization that I had that like Gen Z doesn't actually hate millennials. Like there's like this myth that Gen Z hates millennials.
Starting point is 00:22:08 And I really just don't, I think they don't even think twice about us or like about millennials at all. Right. There's like a weird love. It's like that. I feel like Gen Z is the X that you think about all the time and they don't even think twice about you.
Starting point is 00:22:22 They don't even watch your stories. You know what I mean? Like it's that relationship where like they just exist and we're like like i came to this realization because i watched this tiktok where this little boy not even little he's a boy he's maybe a teenager i don't know um but he's explaining trump's trade policy in this like less than a minute TikTok. And I understood Trump's trade policy better than I ever had coming out of that. And it was just this kid playing three characters of like Vietnam, China and the U.S.
Starting point is 00:22:56 And they're talking to each other back and forth. And not only did I feel incredibly stupid, but it was amazing to see how, I don't know, even now with like Claudia Conway and all this stuff, like we're obsessed with Gen Z. We're obsessed with this like weird generation that's just like spewing TikTok or spewing whatever. And we're like eating it up. And they don't even think twice about it. They're just existing and i want to be that blissfully i want to be that blissfully unaware i guess and just like well think about think about as a millennial think about how often you thought about gen x
Starting point is 00:23:41 like not at all ever right true well in the beginning my my relationship to gen x was those are the people i thought were cool when i was a kid because those are like the adults in media that sort of informed what i thought being adult or being an older kid was like you know like i was taking cues from gen x characters i would say but then at a certain point i don't know if it's like you actually consciously think about it as like a generational relationship versus like oh i think jay-z is cool or like oh i think this person is cool or whatever and then at a certain point i think it's when you get older and they start review there's a certain point where you start seeing your generational tension or like the differences you're like i don't i wouldn't do that jay or like i wouldn't
Starting point is 00:24:28 do that pharrell and then i'm like okay maybe they're older um but yeah it's not i don't i definitely don't like i don't know maybe the way i think about it is different but definitely would think about it a lot when i was younger but gen x like yeah gen x is like neoliberal values, I feel like. I don't know. I just think Gen X was never, always was like, this is stupid, too much to ever be like, you guys don't like us. There was never enough generational pride.
Starting point is 00:24:59 But I feel like nobody, yeah, the younger generations are always smarter better and they give less of a shit than like about you than you give about them that's always going to be the case i just want to be that i just want to be young again yeah fuck yeah yeah and they'll be get that gen x mentality they'll be smarter in a very like capable talented intelligent way and they'll be... You get that Gen X mentality. They'll be smarter in a very capable, talented, intelligent way, but they'll also know less, and you can't confuse that with being dumber. It's just they just don't give a shit enough
Starting point is 00:25:33 to have read all the shit that you've read. But I think that inhibition, that lack of any kind of just... I don't know. Yeah, it's a certain nihilism yeah about that that just like oh god well yeah but it's interesting because like we we were like the generation that got like our just heads kicked in where we were like oh man none of this shit's possible like that we thought was like going to
Starting point is 00:26:04 college and like you march out and here you go that's why we became so sensitive and they were just like they hate us like there's no reason why we should care that they hate us or not but we're just like so i feel like the millennial generation is like a very sensitive generation where it's just like any side eye or whatever, we're just like, oh, they hate me. Maybe I'm projecting my feelings to an entire generation, but... Well, I think we have similar feelings of insecurities, though, because of that.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Because the Gen Z, they're also equally coming up in a time... They were kids during a terrible recession they're coming of they're you know becoming of age in a terrible economic and political time so like they're kind of experiencing like similar things where they're like like you know they haven't had like those full wing spread of carefreeness of like people who came of age in the 90s or like early aughts like so i think and there's there's certain i think we are both equally like socially awkward at times and equally like kind of like can get super emo yeah exactly yeah but they're just perfecting the they're perfecting the aesthetic
Starting point is 00:27:18 of it for sure yeah they're just cooler man they're just cooler yeah man. They're just cooler. Yeah. As long as you keep that in mind. The younger generation is always going to be cooler. Yeah. And when the older generation, you always have people like Madonna or somebody like that who's like, this new generation is just not cool. And it's like, you're 85. They just never heard of you and they don't really fuck with you. That's what it is.
Starting point is 00:27:47 It's like all these people hearing Dreams for the first time. Dreams is the number one song in America right now. Really? Yeah. After that viral... Was it a TikTok or was it just a video? Yeah, it was a TikTok. Wow.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Whatever it was, it's from heaven. Wow. That is amazing. That guy deserves some type of commission from that. Yeah. I mean, Ocean Spray bought him a truck and a lifetime supply of sugar water. What?
Starting point is 00:28:19 Really? Yeah. But I think Fleetwood Mac owes him a lifetime supply of cocaine or whatever. Fleetwood Mac is good at giving people. Yeah, money might be better. Money might be good. Yeah, right now, that's, yeah. Or I think Fleetwood can come by and chop up some fat lines, man, whenever you want.
Starting point is 00:28:42 That's up to you, dog face. Whatever you want. Yeah. Wow, I didn't know it was number one. That is something. I mean, it's a good song. It's a great song. Is Dogface 420 doing for dreams what Wayne's World did for Bohemian Rhapsody?
Starting point is 00:28:58 I think so, yeah. Exactly. Wow. You know what I mean? But I think this should be happening. This will be happening more and more, right? Because we now have... It's just the flattening of all music. It's like we have access to all of it. There's so much good music.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And there are people... Anna just messaged that Mick Fleetwood remade his video. I didn't know that. Then he definitely owes him money. And to come over anytime to do that is creative control or creative like uh that's ip that is ip that he has stolen god see now where are the like agencies to swoop in be like dog face 420 hey hey oh they're there they've definitely mark from uta brother love to sign you up to the agency man uh are you thinking about what you're
Starting point is 00:29:43 gonna do with your likeness and your story yeah well you have all these tiktok stars that are just like being actresses now like just like getting roles because they're famous on tiktok like the she's all that person uh but that's rachel lee cook or there's a rem Cook. I'm not old. Molly Ringwald? I say it so reflexively, too. Like, it's still 98. Rachel Lee Cook? Freddie Prinze Jr.? But I mean, that's the same, like, that's just the place that they're going to be discovered, right?
Starting point is 00:30:20 Like, that's just a good place to discover young talent. That's true. I don't feel like that's any less legitimate than a casting call or something like that. I think for me it's the same vein as nepotism or legacy families in the industry. It's always going to be easy for some people kind of thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I think it's better than those things though, right? I was just going to say it's like than those things though right i was just gonna say it's like nepotism except earned i guess like if dog face if dog face is like in the lead in a new hbo series i'll be like he did that on his own that's a good point yeah but then we find out we find out he's a coppola when i found out that nick cage was a coppola, I didn't listen to anything anymore. Isn't that frustrating? All right.
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Starting point is 00:34:15 In Green Bay, Wisconsin, former Packers star Kabir Bajabiamila caught up in a bizarre situation. KGB explaining what he believes led to the arrest of his friends at a children's Christmas play. A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey, but this was only the beginning. In a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron and the consequences for everyone involved.
Starting point is 00:34:53 You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible. Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. All right. Continuing in on the president's just spiral, continued euphoric manic episode what's the latest miles
Starting point is 00:35:29 hit me with another thursday morning he's calling maria bartiromo yeah i'm good bro don't worry fam everything is great let me tell you some things i'm gonna scream out loud over the phone to you um so he called and truly just saying whatever the fuck he wants to i'm going to play one clip right now uh and i just want everybody just so you understand where this man's coming from the way he's even describing the pandemic and what is happening is a big shift even for him that you were shutting down talks with nancy pelosi how do you want to see aid play out and what do you want as far as a priority on stimulus well i shut down talks two days ago because they weren't working out now they are starting to work out we're starting to have some
Starting point is 00:36:20 very productive talks and she wants to happen too she doesn't want it not to happen. I believe she wants to have wants it to happen because it's it's so good for our country. We really need it. It wasn't our workers fault. It wasn't our airlines fault that China did this terrible thing to us. And I will not be forgetting about that. China did this. This was all done by China. And we shouldn't be hurting our workers because China put the curse on because this was a horrible scourge, a horrible horrible thing that they did. So it seems like he misspoke but he kind of doubles down. They put a curse
Starting point is 00:36:53 on the United States. They put the curse on. We are against the evil eye. If Donald Trump ruins the word curse, that's what's going to make me leave the country. Somehow. They put the maloika on us. Trump if Donald Trump ruins the word curse that's what's gonna make me leave the country somehow I mean this is the like it's the Tolkien phase you know I mean we're in the Game of Thrones phase where now we're dealing with like mythical forces supernatural shit to explain his own ineptitude like in his own mind or whatever I mean because i know like with anybody who's a slippery snake
Starting point is 00:37:25 and doesn't want to be held accountable they say whatever the fuck they got to to avoid saying the words yeah i fucked up uh so in this case is i mean you know they put the curse on us and obviously uh she president she he put the fucking uh he burnt the offerings at the temple we saw that okay uh and that's why and i don't even know if you remember the fires in california were uh started by dracarys okay one of helices uh dragons so the you know dangerous times intentional like do you think he's thinking okay my followers are more likely to be religious and like believe in this sort of thing so maybe i can just like sort of put it in these terms or do you think it's like part of actually like his
Starting point is 00:38:07 beliefs and just like his good versus evil it's everything it's everything I think I didn't realize it could be a bit of that but for me I'm I just always assume that he is struggling to find synonyms for things because he always uses the same words
Starting point is 00:38:23 so I just think like someone gives him like a list of synonyms for things because he always uses the same words. So I just think like someone gives him like a list of synonyms for the word horrible or the word like bad and he just like picks them out of a thing. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I think he's too dumb and he's actually more calculated and thinks of it in a religious term.
Starting point is 00:38:41 If you think it's calculated, right, it works because he's completely flooding the zone with headlines questioning what his state the state he's in. And that becomes the entire focus of the news cycle. And it doesn't become about the fact that he is incapable of doing anything on covid relief with like 100 or what is it, a million people filing for unemployment again or his tax, or any myriad of these other, like even not even knowing if he was actually like the epicenter patient zero for the White House outbreak. There's so many things that aren't being spoken about.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Now it's the Gold Star families that gave it to him when they were coming too close. They were, you know, that's what he's claiming. He's saying that he thinks the families of military oh he really said that yeah he said gold star families getting too close to him and he you know he can't say no to them because they just want to come in they want to they want to do a little hugging a little kissing and i i can't say no to them i can't you know how they are we send them off to brutalize people against their own will and then they come back with the covid the event that he's
Starting point is 00:39:50 pointing to by the way is happened the day after the that rose garden clusterfuck where everybody who was there got covid so doesn't really work out in terms of, yeah. He just blames anyone else instead of being like, I'm the super spreader of all of these things. Wow. Wow. Unrelated, your Trump impression, Jack, is terrible and terrifying. Terrible and terrifying. I meant terrifying, but I said terrible.
Starting point is 00:40:24 It's okay, I'll be leaving now. It's terrible. The whole thing, he goes on, he was then saying, like, you know, really with his chest being like, Obama and Biden committed the world's worst political crimes, and Bill Barr must have, screaming. And, like, Maria Bartiromo was like, uh-huh, yep, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. Then, we really know how
Starting point is 00:40:46 desperate he is because then we get to the emails listen to this now he's still bringing this up four years later supreme court justice confirmed before the election do you still feel that you can do that and and confirm amy coney barrett to the supreme court the Supreme Court in the next 25 days. If we don't, it's the Republicans' fault, because there's no reason why not. Look, I'm president, and it's happened 29 times. She made another mistake last night when she said about Lincoln. She was wrong on that, of course. They say things like we go over it.
Starting point is 00:41:23 They say we're not going to do this, and they're going to do it. They say, they just make, I've never seen such liars as this. They're worse than Crooked Hillary. She was worse in other ways. She was worse when she deleted 33,000 emails illegally, and she should be indicted for that. If people delete emails in a regular court case, she deleted 33,000 emails, and nothing happens to her. Our justice system,
Starting point is 00:41:48 nothing happens to her. With all of the pages of stuff, thousands of pages that we have on them, nothing happens to them. Nothing happens. Well, this is what I'm saying. This is what I'm saying. I'm going to have to get involved because these people are crooked people. John Ratcliffe declassifies all this stuff. It's sitting on his desk the 1000 pages sitting on ag bar's desk what is he going to do about it i don't know why they're not doing why is he talking about sorry i just fell asleep the second he started talking about that i got so exhausted just on a deep spiritual existential level. I can't maintain consciousness when he's talking about emails.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Yeah, Mr. President, the question was about confirming a Supreme Court justice. And he does that thing where it's like, it's like even like, you know, like friends who have the same three stories they bring up. And it's kind of like, it kind of bums you out because you know they're going to bring the same three fucking things like you know he's like uh-huh the 30 right the 33 000 email right right and then the fbi the wire uh-huh right and then you lock her and she was it's just like oh no like he's not even aware but again this is him going out there to project leadership because everyone's saying like he's also he's trying to get back on the campaign trail like as early as monday because he's just felt so just drained from not being on tv seeing himself and doing the things that he's normally used to despite the state of his health so on top
Starting point is 00:43:17 of that he just goes on here with a moment to maybe campaign something and then he resorts to the same old, same old song and dance. Yeah. Cause I mean, it's, he's so much about instinct and the thing that worked for him last time was talking about Hillary Clinton's emails and he just doesn't have a thing. He hasn't found his new material. It's like,
Starting point is 00:43:40 it's like Seinfeld. It's like Seinfeld, the latest, uh, latest standup special. Oh, it's bad. It is so bad. He's still trying out new material.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And whoo, my man, look for a new career. And his new sign did. He's reaching for scraps. He did try out some new material, actually, on Kamala Harris. And it kind of goes with what you were saying earlier, Miles, about the Tolkien version of reality where he claimed, I think, that she was a monster. What?
Starting point is 00:44:12 Yeah, this is another one. Yeah, we'll play this one. And the radical left controls Biden. Biden won't be president for two months, okay? He won't be president for two months. So what do you mean? You mean he'll have to step down? got in, you mean he'll have to step down? Are you saying you think he'll have to step down after two months? He's not mentally
Starting point is 00:44:30 capable of being president. You know that. Everybody knows that. Everybody that knows him, he can't be president. And this monster that was on stage with Mike Pence, who destroyed her last night, by the way, but this monster, she says, no, no, there won't be fracking. There won't be this. Everything she said is a lie. In fact, they go back and they agree to the manifesto. Take a look at the manifesto. Ooh, Maria coming in trying to yes and it with,
Starting point is 00:44:58 she wants to reimagine the plea, but she can't rein him in. He's off on one about how. He says monster twice not once but twice calls her a monster for lying which isn't a monstrous it's very strange she's a monster you should have seen her
Starting point is 00:45:15 flames coming out of her nose those teeth meanwhile my guy rotting zombie on stage I don't know if you saw that fight between the monster and the human piece of shit last night, but it was something. Did you guys watch the debate? I didn't even have a chance to watch it. Okay, that's not fair because I watched it knowing I was going to be on the show today.
Starting point is 00:45:40 I know. I watched it. I even took notes. I was like. I mean, what did you even think did you i mean to be honest even watching it it's it was like a big yawn fest because i mean okay this is my tactic i don't watch it live i wait until it's done and then i go on youtube and i go on double speed on the live stream wow and then it goes by very fast oh shit yeah i like that yeah that's a weird one it's like if you when you still want to be
Starting point is 00:46:07 engaged even though it's killing you inside just do it at twice the speed if i wasn't going to be on the show today i would not have watched it i'm going to be very that's true i know and i don't think many people for the same reason right where you'd think it would be important but like we're in such a bizarre state of affairs in general where i think the only thing of consequence maybe like obviously there was the typical ducking and diving about like you know clarifying points or that i was on the green new deal or fracking or what any myriad of topics but the one was like when mike pence refused to actually say what he would do if the president refused to peacefully transition. That was like the one thing that I was like, OK, so now he's into. And that was what was funny is the moderator just let that go.
Starting point is 00:46:59 It was like, OK, thank you, Mr. Vice President. Well, because she isn't even unbiased. thank you mr vice president well because she isn't even unbiased like i looked her up and she pretends to be this unbiased journalist but she like like hosted this like taxpayer funded fundraiser for like one of uh donald trump's picks for like some judge or something i don't know but like she is a journalist that pretends to be unbiased but if you look into her record she's like kind of red leaning and so it's a little annoying that i don't i don't know she just rubbed me the wrong way but that moment was very like unsettling to say the least to just like see him not dodge like dodging every other question was maybe like expected like he didn't
Starting point is 00:47:37 really answer anything but that one in particular was like kind of uh daunting yeah and now uh with regards to the presidential debate the uh trump has you know he changes his mind and so i don't even know if it's worth saying what what his latest stance is but he claims he's not going to do the next debate unless it's in person which um he is a super spreader. Yeah, well, I think that translates to I'm not going to do the debate unless I can infect Joe Biden. Right, yeah, unless we can even the playing field. Somebody's got to test his lips before the debate.
Starting point is 00:48:18 I think I should. But just because I'm afraid of the fact checkers that listen to the show, the fundraiser that Susan Page hosted, I just looked this up just to make sure. It was to celebrate in 2018 Seema Verna's nomination by Trump to serve as the head of the Center of Medicare and Medicaid Services. Dude, Seema Verna is the fucking worst. Yeah. So that's who she hosts.
Starting point is 00:48:44 She celebrated this whole thing. She tweeted about it. Susan Page tweeted about it and all this stuff. I mean, because I think it was what? Technically, it's USA Today, right? So you're not going to be like, oh, yes, someone who gets it. I love that their newspaper is in color and gives me this bizarre take on the country every morning when I'm in a hotel. So we'll see where the debate thing ends up but that's i mean the latest thing i read
Starting point is 00:49:11 that he was trying to postpone it to the 22nd the one that was supposed to be on the 15th right and that he refused to do a virtual debate which is so just infuriating yeah he wants to delay it which i don't know why when he feels better than he did 20 years ago right now it seems like you know get this thing going by the time even 10 minutes from now he's gonna be like i've actually figured it out it's gonna be all holograms and it's gonna be me i will be the real one everyone else and we're doing it it It's going to be monster-free, wizard-free, and sorceress-free debate. I'm telling you, no witchcraft. Let's talk really briefly about this story
Starting point is 00:49:52 that just broke yesterday morning. And so details are still coming in, but they basically caught a militia that calls themselves the Wolverine Watchmen, so a group of people who... Combine your two favorite comics. Not great at reading comprehension, but they're a Michigan militia
Starting point is 00:50:13 that was plotting to kidnap and potentially murder Gretchen Whitmer, who the right was up in arms about her being overzealous with her pandemic lockdown rules. Like her attempts to protect them were, you know, they wanted to kidnap her, imprison her and, you know, hold a mock trial where they sentenced her to death. And their their deadline for that was the election. So it was specifically motivated uh by you know politics
Starting point is 00:50:47 it's this is not an apolitical terror cell that is like both sides this is people who are working in direct lockstep with trump's tweet from back in april liberate michigan yeah i mean but like can you imagine if like six american muslims were arrested in a plot to like overthrow the government or like to kidnap any governor or like politician like the word terrorist or terrorism would be the first word to describe it right everything i've been reading they're calling them militia they're they're they're not really they're they're they're like skirting around this yeah because it's white people. We know, I mean, come on, we know this.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I know that, but it's just like really upsetting. It's an inability. Yeah, of course. But she's a white person too. You know what I mean? You would think that they would like at least have some, I don't know. You would think that her being white would make some people feel worse. Yeah, the media completely fucked it up to covering it because without saying
Starting point is 00:51:47 terrorists they're like this plot to blah blah blah and then make reference right that there was this joint terrorism task force involvement with the fbi and how they point out that like it's really interesting because when the jttf gets involved, it's usually on cases, maybe it would be an ISIS plot or Al-Qaeda. Or Black Lives Matter. Yeah, or people fighting to combat redlining. Anyway, so what the deal is here is it shows you sort of how they're looking at it, too. It's like, well, then why don't you look at it the way it is? Because it's terror.
Starting point is 00:52:24 It's politically motivated terror um and this you know it's fucking frightening you know what i mean because they were straight they got they were doing a lot to get this far they were you know doing reconnaissance on the vacation home of the governor trying to figure out how to booby trap maybe the roads for any responding officers yes they weren't going like google mapping they were physically there they were physically going and location scouting uh for a for a bridge that they could bomb to collapse the bridge to distract law enforcement so that they could then kidnap her but even the word the militia like why are we calling like they're a terrorist group yeah i think i hate that i think because it's using the old language that
Starting point is 00:53:09 like the atf and fbi was using like because michigan like oklahoma city there's connections to those michigan militias and all of that so i think it's been an existing it's what they always like it's these militias out here but now like i think we have to evolve our nomenclature, our language around this to be more indicative of what it is, which is it's terror. It's their terrorists. It's right-wing terror. It's white supremacist terror. This is their cultural heritage as white supremacists. They're incompetent terrorists. they tell us who they are
Starting point is 00:53:47 they're out in the open about it and then they get infiltrated by the fbi usually uh they canonized the okc bomber who killed a daycare center's worth of innocent children and if you're on the right and support trump if you vote for trump that is the side that you are passively on or actively on, depending on what you're doing. When it comes time to... Their version of taking action is not to demonstrate peacefully or to take to the
Starting point is 00:54:16 streets in nonviolent protests. They take to the streets and start murdering nonviolent protesters with long rifles or driving their cars through them or plotting to kidnap democratic leaders they plot to murder these people were plotting to murder cops that's how it first came on the the scene or it came on the radar of law enforcement is they were plotting to uh they needed to get the they were trying to get the addresses of local police to murder them um because they thought
Starting point is 00:54:46 they were like helping to lock down michigan again this is all in this is all part of a democratic uh process of trying to protect people from a global pandemic but um and again these are things that if fox news like you said shereen if fox news heard any of these things uh coming from black lives matter coming from anyone who was you know antifa started the fires though yeah anyone associated with any person of color anything they would shoot in their pants they would not be able to like stay upright trying to like rush to get this shit on the front page of you know fox news but i mean yeah it goes hand in hand with the fact that trump was like stand back and stand by or whatever the shit and like even pence yesterday the moderator brought up the fact that Trump didn't actually verbalize or like, condemn white supremacy. He also, like, averted away from
Starting point is 00:55:53 that question, too. Like, they're skirting around it because they know so many of their followers are white supremacists, and they don't want to insult them in any way but it's so disgusting to see it play out and just to i mean like yeah like liberate michigan like that tweet is directly related to like emboldening the same people that tried to kidnap a governor like that is and these and these dumb idiots they probably think they're like ocean 11 or whatever like they probably are like i hate imagining like the like them doing this stuff like thinking they're so fucking cool and like i'm gonna find a bridge i'm gonna do this you go that like they probably have walkie talkies or some shit i don't know but no i mean they were very set up i mean
Starting point is 00:56:42 they they got to a point where they were having... These motherfuckers love to say over and out. Exactly. They were having... And also making that sound. They're like, you don't have to do that with your mouth. Yeah, we're on a cell phone. They were having meetings in a trap door basement facility
Starting point is 00:56:58 in the back of a store. It was getting very serious where they were very concerned. They were confiscating cell phones from the from people who are attending this meeting but the the feds had someone with a like they had a recording device on them and still recorded these meetings and that's how it got there so i mean that's what's really ultimately you know you see really the commitment to this kind of shit um that you know and but again they this is the language that they speak they're saying that they all of this is in hopes of starting a civil war um and trying to embolden other groups like this but when people mention the boogaloo boys like i i know we've talked about it
Starting point is 00:57:36 here but like it bears repeating everybody's always surprised when i bring it up conversationally that boogaloo boys is because they're doing the old joke blank blank to electric boogaloo for the civil war they want a second civil war and so they're called the boogaloo boys because they want civil war to electric boogaloo like they tell us who they are they want a civil war and i also like right-wing media like we need to make sure they own this. They're not going to obviously own it. But like I was just just incidentally when I typed Gretchen Whitmer's name into Chrome, the last article that came up was a Wall Street Journal editorial board article like
Starting point is 00:58:17 their entire editorial board comparing her to a tyrant. Like, right. Fuck right off. The right is and has always been the side of tyranny and terrorism and fascism and the side that actually uses violence against humans, not buildings, to accomplish their aim. And we need to stop pretending they aren't because, like, the both sides and shit is what got us here. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Yeah. I'm tired of it. I mean, that is disgraceful that that was the first thing that came up. Are you shitting me? That's just because it was the last thing I saw. But still, even the fact that it was written
Starting point is 00:58:56 and she's just literally trying to protect her state and following the regulations set out by scientists and leading medical professionals and she's a tyrant? That word should never be used for anyone
Starting point is 00:59:11 other than an actual tyrant, which is like Trump. these people are living out these long-had fantasies of like these video game kind of fantasies or these just like going out with a rifle to protest and feeling like they're like the they're powerful it's really unsettling that uh at the end of the day they're just
Starting point is 00:59:39 it's a power trip and it's and it's just i it's i'm more afraid of these people than i am of trump because i'm afraid of what happens when trump does eventually if he ever lets go of his power but um what's going to happen to all these emboldened people and what they're probably going to keep planning these weird plans i I refuse to believe that they they won't. I don't know. They terrify me. It's it's so strange that they exist and that they that there's so many of them. But it's just it's just going to have a national megaphone for uh you know at the very least like soft versions of the fascism and the racism and white supremacy that they believe in it's um shameful yeah anyways uh let's take another break and we'll be right back. when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a US president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader
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Starting point is 01:04:33 podcasts and we're back and uh just a shout out to football fans in Florida and Louisiana. Yeah. Godspeed to y'all. Yeah. Ron DeSantis has said he moved the state into phase three, I think, at the end of September, which basically means you can have a stadium at full capacity without asking the state for any kind of permit. You're just like, yeah, all right, we're good. Phase three. do your thing um luckily no nfl team uh is willing to do that the dolphins are doing the right thing and they want only 13 000 people to gamble with their lives uh which should be fine
Starting point is 01:05:16 rather than like the full capacity of like 65 000 right yeah because i think at the end of the day these are still massive money-making companies and they know people could sue them it's not like where ron disney's like i don't give a shit good luck i'm fucking everybody over but these come but like you know the nfl they're not willing to go there um and then over like at lsu i know like for their games they're going to 25 capacity i think their stadium holds like a 000 and they just uh said a couple days ago that they are doing away with the cdc wellness checks for like fans in attendance where like they would have to sort of like go through this thing to say like oh i'm not experiencing this i haven't had fever etc etc because they don't want to hold the lines up what so they're asking
Starting point is 01:06:02 people to check at home how many people are gonna be at the lsu game i mean this weekend i think they play missouri or something like that so i'm not i mean it i'd imagine they're gonna have it at one fourth capacity because that's what they've been doing so i mean because like in these states they haven't had quite yet like these huge surges like maybe other places have and i think that's what's emboldening them. But like all experts are saying, like, this is what happens when you do that. We deal with it fucking three weeks later in the form of just a surge of cases. And right now, like, you know, overall as a country, we're still not doing great.
Starting point is 01:06:41 So, yes, I think it's just, again, one of those things where there's to your point, even like wall street journal calling governor Whitmer, a tyrant. It's like, think of who's calling who a tyrant because the wall street journal is just the mouthpiece of like the ownership business owning class in this country, the oligarchical class. And they're calling the person saying like,
Starting point is 01:07:00 you're keeping me from making my money. You fucking tyrant. So I can put my workers at fucking risk to make my money. Am I the tyrant? Yes, by most measures and definition of the word. But in this very narrow instance, to try and fucking get my lemmings to fucking march in the right direction, you are the fucking tyrant. And it's just really, you know, I hope more and more people begin to see like these things for what they are. Like it's not tyranny when you're actually, what you're doing is for
Starting point is 01:07:30 the safety of people and the people who are, you know, broadly negatively affected, obviously, aside from the unemployment effects and things like that, it's like this, this push, this need to reopen comes from the people who own all of the businesses and hate not making their money or have over leveraged their businesses and we're already kind of on thin ice and to pull the plug on their machine is catastrophic. But yet there's none of that consideration for the people who's like actual IRL day-to-day lives are being the most fucked up rather than someone who's like, well, there goes my portfolio. What about people who are like well there's my roof over my head there's my next meal for my family there's my medical bill expense etc um yeah so you know tyranny and all that yeah i mean
Starting point is 01:08:19 you bring up a good point i think uh i mean i'm hoping as time goes on we don't really it's unfortunate that journalism is now again like who owns it and that's like the motivation behind like what is reported um but yeah you're right like the wall street i mean like that makes sense the more i think about it um but you do have to look at what who owns what and what their motivations are um but it is really unfortunate because like i i feel for businesses my dad's a business owner like it's yeah but he's also not like he isn't the bit like he isn't a business owner that is being taken care of because he's not big enough or important enough to to get the aid that he needs and so i it's so annoying that that now we're in october
Starting point is 01:09:09 and we still don't we can't like the three weeks thing with the surge and everything it's not new information that's that's what really is baffling it's like this is what's been going on since March. Like, this is not new. Like, Dr. Fauci was like, we have to get ready to buckle down again. And I'm like, who stopped? Like, why did we ever stop? Like, nothing changed. We should never have stopped bunkering down. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:09:40 It just makes me all mad. I'm just mad all the time. Because all we've done is just constantly reveal i mean for i think many people depending on you know i always say this you're however engaged you are with the politics of the country like more and more it's just eating away at this veneer that america's like this smiling figure with open arms and it's actually just a fucking bone shredder machine fucking wood chipper uh that is only there to like just like break you down for whatever loose change you've got and just spit you out on the other side. And it's just like it's just like to that almost near literal point where it's like, I don't know, man, if you can't afford to live right now, I wish I had an answer for you.
Starting point is 01:10:21 But I'm just the government. I don't know what you want me to do. And it's like is like months ago. He was like, people will die. Like just accepting that, like, if you don't make it like survival of the fittest, you're bad. You know what I mean? It's yeah, it's just. But then again, but don't talk about him right now.
Starting point is 01:10:37 He's sick just because he said there will be death. Does it mean you have to apply the same callous viewpoint to his life i unfollowed people that i've known for years that tweeted that we should have sympathy or like we shouldn't be like wish death upon trump or like wish him ill she was like i'm not gonna name names but um it was essentially it was essentially the like like uh i wish him a speedy recovery kind of bullshit and uh yeah that's like where i draw the line i'm just like no there's no why have empathy right for someone or someone who's actively invested in the destruction of your entire people and culture and fucking everything and this was a person of color but um but yeah i i'm at that point where
Starting point is 01:11:28 i'm like i will unfollow you and never talk to you again because you've proven to be a dummy like this don't like being a bit the better person the bigger person like having a big heart like it's not that's not the time for that you know it's like things are way too serious and way too to just lethal to have that kind of mentality yeah and i even get mad at like the like i there's someone that i know that voted green party and i'm just like i'm not gonna pretend i'm obsessed with biden you know what i mean i I'm not going to pretend he's like my guy, but I'm going to vote for him because at the end of the day, he is better. Like objectively, it's not hard to be better than Trump. But like the same thing was said, if you look at the coverage from like Bush and Gore, they, everyone was saying there's not them, but like, they're
Starting point is 01:12:20 kind of the same. And people that say that and they obviously they're not like if gore got elected i the the i want to be in that timeline kind of thing right but um at this juncture saying that biden and trump are the same like uh i don't know i think sorry i got i'm just mad about certain things and i want off on a tangent. No, I think everybody's feeling that right now. They definitely offer to there. I mean, there's definitely good and bad. But to say they're the same is like, I don't know. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:55 I could forgive that point of view much easier in 2016 than now. Yeah. I mean, at this point, if you it's not even about liking trump if you if you are okay with trump if you look at him and you're like a shrug like that's just as bad to me like there's no part there is i just have no patience for that and no yeah because i think it also it when you see people not respond in the same way you're're like, oh, wow, these things are not real to you. They're not. Right.
Starting point is 01:13:28 You don't look at this. It's not a threat because you are you. You see like a red light and I see a fucking fireball coming at me and you're choosing to look at it like, well, yeah, you could say it's a fireball. But if you squint your eyes, it could just be a little red light. Yeah. And it's like, no, ass. Like, you got say it's a fireball, but if you squint your eyes, it could just be a little red light. And it's like, no ass. Like you got to do people. And I think that's the luxury. Ultimately, these people have luxury. It's privilege. Like if you're undecided, it's a huge privilege because you've lived a life of privilege to be undecided at this point. And if you are not in a position of privilege, maybe, you know, socioeconomically or whatever,
Starting point is 01:14:04 and you still feel like that on paper, you should be engaged. I, you know socioeconomically or whatever and you still feel like that on paper you should be engaged i you know you really need like this shit is so massively important but regardless of the outcome and whoever is or is not president i mean like you know there's just the struggle is going to continue um and i think we have to keep the fucking pedal to the metal like just straight through this because we are still leaving so many people behind and based on what i'm hearing out of both candidates we don't quite have a plan to deal with everybody in this country to deal with everybody humanely and that's really you know the shit that people should be campaigning on so you know vote uh you know miles gray 2024 well i mean like
Starting point is 01:14:46 what's bothering me a little bit is this idea like 2020 sucks or like 2020 like what a year and like yes it's been and it's been wild a wild ride but it's not gonna end january 1st 2021 and it didn't start january 1st 2020 either this is like a culmination of things that have been happening oh yeah this just started july 4th 1776 exactly um but i mean like you're right like we have to keep going and like 2021 will just like it's not gonna end like the pandemic isn't going to disappear in january like we're not going to magically have things open in january or have a new outlook on life or whatever like this is this is part of the work that we have to keep go like keep doing and and that like i don't know yeah the ain't shit allies will continue to show themselves too
Starting point is 01:15:41 because they'll be like oh thank god biden harris Harris one. All right. Well, back to that. Oh, is that a, who's riding a bike in front of my house right now? I'm going to call the police on them. You know, like it's, you have to realize it doesn't stop there.
Starting point is 01:15:53 It can't end there. Like until we're really talking about these sort of restorative policies to make people whole, or at least give people the feeling that they're living in a place where they, you know, the intent is to make people whole
Starting point is 01:16:06 we're not going to be done no no no yeah it's those black square folks need to really step up in my opinion but I don't know alright let's real quick before we go
Starting point is 01:16:23 let's figure out what we're going to watch on netflix this weekend who be who be are you gonna watch you so i'm watching hubie the top the top 10 on netflix right now number one is hubie halloween that is a new adam sandler pg-13 horror comedy uh with a pretty decent trailer. I actually enjoyed it. I was just thinking, why have an offer? I'm not gonna lie. You said Adam Sandler, and I was like, oh.
Starting point is 01:16:50 I watched the first 30 minutes. Oh, did you? Yeah, and I have to finish it. That's why I'm like, I'm already watching it. It's another Sandler movie where he's doing a voice the whole time. Yeah, I would actually, Jack, you should probably watch it too
Starting point is 01:17:04 because as I watch it too because i as i watch it i just for better or worse i just realize how much of the sandler cinematic universe is just laser engraved on my fucking brain um and there are moments when i'm like connecting all the like because there's so many references. Um, but you know, I don't know. Some people are also pulling for you to watch Emily in Paris. So that could be another, that could be,
Starting point is 01:17:29 is that true? Or people want me wanting some Emily in Paris? I mean, I, one, one, one, one, Anna Hosnia is,
Starting point is 01:17:35 I just, I just saw, uh, I just Wikipedia Emily in Paris and it seems like an affront to parisian culture just all culture and yeah it doesn't seem like it's doing very well oh wait dude the first when you just google it the first one that comes up for me is hollywood reporter embarrassing netflix's emily in paris blasted by french critics oh so i like so this is like a culture war. Yes. Like us versus France. So the premise of Emily in Paris, which is like number four right now,
Starting point is 01:18:09 follows a driven 20-something American woman from Chicago who leaves her previous life and boyfriend behind and moves to Paris for an unexpected job opportunity. She's tasked with bringing an American point of view to a venerable French marketing firm. So she's got to teach. It's like Crocodile Dundee, an American point of view to a venerable French marketing firm. She's got to teach. It's like Crocodile Dundee except with an American
Starting point is 01:18:30 20-something as the Crocodile Dundee figure. They're trying to teach Parisians what it is. It's a series. That means that... It's not a movie? I can't do that to myself, unfortunately.
Starting point is 01:18:51 So I will have to. Damn, that does seem really promising. Maybe I'll watch three episodes of it and get deep enough into it to get like just rage out. Because I have a feeling that, you know, that pilot is you're probably gonna do do spit takes of like the terrible, like there's gonna be a baguette joke. Like, you know, there's someone is going to wear a striped shirt with a beret, neckkerchief and baguette. I am so excited for this now. And I, what's the over under on that?
Starting point is 01:19:20 There's going to be croissants. There's going to be, yeah. Or croissants. Like there's going to be scenes like that. There's going to be... Or croissants. There's going to be scenes like that. Oh, did you hear what she said? Anna says, the French hate it. Twitter loves it.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Yeah. Wait, are we only limited to stuff on Netflix? Do you have a deal with Netflix? No, it's just easier to track. Oh, I see. I mean, because I could be like, hey, everybody on Netflix? Do you have a deal with Netflix? No, it's just easier to track. It's just the one thing guests have. Oh, I see. Because I can be like, hey, everybody ready to watch Fubo TV? I've just been meaning to watch The Boys. I haven't seen
Starting point is 01:19:53 The Boys, and that's something on my list that I really want to see. But I think it's on Amazon. Yeah, it is Amazon, but I think enough people have Amazon. Why don't you watch that? That'll be your next assignment. So your last assignment was watching all of Seinfeld and reporting back. And now
Starting point is 01:20:09 your next assignment, if you have time, should you choose to accept, is watch The Boys. Let us know. I hear it's actually pretty good. I heard it's very good. Yeah, it seems like it's a finale. It's on my list of things I watch but I don't talk about on this show. Why? Oh, really? You've watched it? No, I'm saying of things. watch, but I don't talk about on this show. Why? Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:20:25 You've watched it? No, no, I'm saying of things. Well, because every week we watch something and talk about it. But I watch so much weird shit between the trash reality or not being able to sleep watching some other weird shit. Sorry. That was the most invasive. Sorry. Do you know what I have to finish that I really enjoyed?
Starting point is 01:20:47 Okay, I'm not a reality person, but I, and I guess it's like not really reality, but it's like a show. What's it called? Love on the Spectrum. It is so endearing. Oh, I heard it's really good. I haven't finished it. I've always, maybe seen like two or three episodes, but it is so, so good. haven't finished it i've always maybe seen like two or three episodes but it is so so good and so just like lovely to watch right now because it's like people with asperger's or people that are on
Starting point is 01:21:11 the spectrum of autism and they're they it's like you see their their experience with dating and i'm pretty sure they're in australia um but it is so and that's on Netflix. So there's that. You had me at Australia. Um, great. I knew that would get somebody, but it's, it's really, it's a really heartwarming watch. And I think it's just a really important show. You don't really see stuff with like a lot of representation for people that are on the spectrum or like even portraying them as like actual human beings with like motivations and wants and stuff.
Starting point is 01:21:46 But I really liked it from what I saw. I have to finish it, though. Hell yeah. Nice. Well, Shireen, it has been a pleasure, as always, having you. Where can people find you and follow you? Oh, well, you can listen to me on this podcast, Ethnically Ambiguous.
Starting point is 01:22:03 It's ethnicallyamb on Twitter Ethnically Ambig on Instagram. And I am on Twitter at ShiroHero666. And then on Instagram, it's just ShiroHero. And that's it. I don't know. You can follow me if you want. And if you don't, I get it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:22 Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying well it felt like i would be remiss to not choose a tweet from fly twitter that happened because we are recording this the day the day after the eve of fly twitter yeah um and my favorite one it came from the queen herself jamie loftus it was just it's all she says was he he but the images that she chose are And my favorite one, it came from the queen herself, Jamie Loftus. It was just, all she says was hee-hee, but the images that she chose are the fly on Pence's head and the bird on Bernie's podium, just juxtaposing those two things. I don't know. It made me miss Bernie. It made me miss that.
Starting point is 01:23:00 I'm feeling that moment of pure hope when that bird landed on the podium but it's also like funny to me to just juxtapose like this one pure old man to one reanimated corpse living on this in this planet but um that's my that was a tweet that gave me some
Starting point is 01:23:20 joy last night so there's that there you go miles where can people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying uh twitter instagram at miles of gray and uh the other podcast for 20 day fiance i don't have a tweet but uh shout out to people on social media i the thing i know i tweeted during the debate. I did that. You can just tweet using iOS without opening Twitter.
Starting point is 01:23:50 It's like, send tweet like that. I'm like, yup, let's do that. But anyway, shout out to the people on the Discord. The title in AKA's channel right there, because I seize you. Nice.
Starting point is 01:24:07 I'll give a shout out real quick to Priyanka Das, and also my name, underscore Blake, for creating the visual, the Photoshop of Trump bursting from Fauci's chest as a chest burster. Oh, shit. I love Priyanka. Hey, Priyanka.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Love you. Priyanka rules. Thinking of you. You're the best. Oh, yeah. How could we have an after party when we were in town?
Starting point is 01:24:32 I heard about that. I know. That was an amazing night. That was A+. She was a great host. It's like gang rules. Yeah, she really does. Some of y'all do.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Priyanka does. And Zig tweeted me and the boys hanging dong on Maine in hopes of turning Texas blue. That's pretty good. I bet all the celebrities were doing that nudity video.
Starting point is 01:24:58 They just... They can't get it right, can they? No, they just stop trying, y'all. Just stop, man. Just stop trying. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,
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Starting point is 01:25:35 Budos band one of my favorite just you know instrumental brass mixed everything they got all the instruments poppin they really started off making like a lot of afro beat and then now they just kind of have this sort of nice vintage throwback style so you know if you're you know put put your headphones in and pretend you're in a movie and you're the main character and listen to this this is your theme song as you walk through the grocery store or whatever and i guarantee you have a good time but please treat everyone with respect grocery
Starting point is 01:26:01 store the inclusive yeah yeah i know although you know you're not allowed at the Trader Joe's on wheels anymore. I saw that photo. They're saying, beware of this man. Roller jack. Sort of annoying because my outfit really needs the roller skates to be pulled off with the leg warmers and the short shorts. Otherwise, yeah, they're just regular acid washed cutoffs. All right. short shorts. Otherwise, yeah, they're just regular acid washed cutoffs. Uh,
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