The Daily Zeitgeist - The D.C. Trendwich Guy 8/14: D.C. Subway Guy, Trump/Putin Meeting, Infowars, The Onion, Colorado Mutant Bunnies, Ron Howard, Taco Bell

Episode Date: August 14, 2025

In this edition of The D.C. Trendwich Guy, Miles and special guest co-host Pallavi Gunalan discuss the D.C. Subway Sandwich Guy, the incipient Trump/Putin meeting, an update on the Infowars/The Onion ...deal, the mutant bunnies in Colorado, rich white man Ron Howard doing/saying rich white man things, Taco Bell bringing back some fan favorites and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:00 Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, everybody, and welcome to this afternoon edition of the Trend Witch guy. If you haven't heard, that's a reference to the viral clip of the dude who just fucking absolutely throws his subway
Starting point is 00:02:16 foot long, like a federal cop in D.C. and then run books in it. I did not see this. You haven't seen the fucking subway guy? No, I'll show you. I'll show you. Okay. Um, anyway, it's me miles that's paula v ganolin we are here to tell you about the news that is trending uh first up is the sandwich guy okay so if you haven't heard there was a man who basically just absolutely laced a FBI agent with a sub sandwich because he's just he has had it with these federal
Starting point is 00:02:50 agents just ruining his city and the the fed got fentanyl poisoning from the mayo or so we'll see we'll see But just check this shit out. This is him in the face of these cops. This shipping on TMZ is so funny to me. Oh, yeah. This is big. This is big. The guy's screaming at him.
Starting point is 00:03:07 He's calling him a fascist. Watch this. Hit him with the sandwich. Ba! He books it. Look. He's gone. He's gone.
Starting point is 00:03:16 He's gone. Look how slow they're jogging. Look at these slow-ass cops, bro. He's literally casually running. This dude is about to have a heart attack. It's a some way! Did you hear that? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:31 Yo, get that guy to replace Jared. So he's a king. He's a king. So this guy, he went viral. He was like squatting to have the amount of shout energy he could have to yell at the guy. He was using his back. He was using his thighs. Yeah, he was using his thighs.
Starting point is 00:03:48 He had good form, good scream form. He was pumping with his legs, not with his back. So he could last longer. Now, he is just. doing this thing where he goes off. He runs. The cops chase after him up. I'm based on what I'm reading, it sounds like he got away because he wasn't, he wasn't arrested. They identified him and then charged him. So I don't, I think he got by with his, look, people in D.C. are very fit. We talk about that in tomorrow's episode. I think they are like the most jogging city in the United
Starting point is 00:04:16 States. So this guy just casually takes off on a casual, maybe eight minute mile pace and is just smoking him. He looks like he gave me very much the the wicked witch of the East bro like energy. Do you know what I'm talking about? Truly. So anyway
Starting point is 00:04:37 he's been ID'd sadly this guy has been charged with a fucking some felonies. This was assaulting, resisting, or impeding officers of the United States. Yes. Yeah. A sandwich. Like a sandwich? A sandwich. Like a sandwich? Exactly.
Starting point is 00:04:52 A sandwich. I mean, if anything, he should have been, the real, I think, immoral part was wasting a perfect with a subway tuna. Subway tuna, don't throw that shit. Oh, that's true. I'll eat that. I'll eat that. I'll eat that. I'll eat that. That's true. They're artists. Don't throw art like that. You know, the other thing is the guy worked for the Department of Justice. Wait, the guy who threw this. Well, he was doling out justice. There it is. DoJ. Doling out justice. That's what it stands for. Thank you. That's his rap name. But anyway, guy with the impeccable running form and sandwich, you did it. You did it.
Starting point is 00:05:27 The Trump-Pooten meeting is trending. It's still set for tomorrow unless Trump, I don't know, fucking backs out. I mean, he's saying all kinds of things, constantly contradicting himself. He's like, it's like a chess game. You got to know what you're going to do. Maybe we get a peace deal. Maybe I give him sanctions or sandwiches. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:05:47 Who knows? Wait, so he's going into this like. I'm going to fix the whole Russia-Ukraine thing. Yeah, without Zelensky there. I feel like it's just going to be a date with him and Putin. And he's going to be like, you look so strong on that horse. I know, right? He's like, and that was you?
Starting point is 00:06:04 That was an AI? Wow. You have a very well-developed chess, if I may say so, Vladimir. I don't think Trump knows that AI is a thing. Like, I know he talks about it, but I don't think he understands anything. I don't think he knows what Photoshop is after that MS-13 knuckle tat situation. No, no, no, no. He doesn't know what anything.
Starting point is 00:06:21 It's like Adobe. I love those houses. We've heard him trip out just over the use of a computer with his son opening a laptop. Everything's computer. Everything's computer. Put that on the soundboard. I know. That was, I got to bring that back from the old computer.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Anyway, so the one thing that is buzzing around in terms of rumor is that Trump may offer Putin access to parts of Alaska to mine for minerals. As like a sweetener to end the war? We're so fucking cooked, dude. We're so cooked. Okay, how about you exploit our land for your own gain? Instead of, I don't know how this works. Again, he's playing 4D chess, y'all. Wait, is Murkowski Alaska?
Starting point is 00:07:09 Okay, so she like sold out to protect Alaska supposedly with the, wasn't it the... Oh, yeah, with the big beautiful ball sack bill? Yeah, and then she was like, He betrayed me, and now he's giving away your fucking mineral rights, bitch. Just a little bit of it. Just a little bit, as 50 cents said. That's, yeah, I don't know. This is, again, he has many, I guess, levers he can pull.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Shame on you. Fooled me twice. Shame on me. Fould me 18,000 times. Shame on Lisa Murkowski. Yeah. I mean, at least she's concerned. You know, she did always say that.
Starting point is 00:07:44 I'm actually concerned with the president. Will I do anything? No. No, I will not. I do have big feeling. Oh, you do? I have big feelings. Listen, as a senator, I have big feelings.
Starting point is 00:07:54 That's great. Okay, Senator, big feelings. Okay, also, some kind of good news. Remember when we thought the onion was going to buy Info Wars off Alex Jones? Yeah. And then, so then a court was like, no, there wasn't enough transparency over that deal to the sale of the onion. So it was like, it was obviously revoked. Well, we may be back into the realm where the onion is able to buy info wars or free.
Starting point is 00:08:19 assets of free speech systems. Because again, he owes money for fucking lying about Sandy Hook and just being an absolute, absolute cream. The most, the worst shit you could do, he's like, yeah, let's play that for a while. Yeah. So the one good thing now is that apparently now a state court is overseeing the liquidation of assets rather than a bankruptcy judge. And I guess to lawyers who like no shit like this, they say that would actually make it
Starting point is 00:08:49 a bit easier for the onion to buy Info Wars again, rather than this, you know, the bankruptcy judge last time. When you buy InfoWords, can you, like, send me a few of those nutraceuticals? Do you mind giving me some of those? Yeah. Is that what you're liquidizing? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you liquid-li-fidizing that in a blender?
Starting point is 00:09:10 Do you have, like, are the nutraceuticals, like, can I get Caveman blend as a liquid? I can put an eye dropper and directly onto my eyes every day? Does that work? No, it'll roll back with your 27 contacts. With my 23 contacts that I've observed back there. Honestly, also, that's not, please stop, like, laughing about stuff like that, Paula, because obviously you know about how my house burned down, which you did. But also, I don't know if you know this about me and my child.
Starting point is 00:09:35 My infant nearly died. Mm-hmm. In a drug fight. Uh-huh. After mass shootings. Okay. Quick tease for tomorrow's episode. I'm going to go as that clip for Halloween.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Guys, the fucking bullshit around. D.C. is so it's so nonsensical now. People are making up crimes. Tune into tomorrow's episode for that one. Okay, let's take a quick break. And when we come back, we will talk about those fucking mutant rabbits that we should all be
Starting point is 00:10:03 living in fear of. Teenage mutant ninja rabbits. Rabbits. Hell yeah. Hairs with some horns on. Their fucked up faces. We'll be right. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones. in it. They had no idea who it was. Most everything was burned up pretty good
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Starting point is 00:14:15 And we're back. You've seen the mutant bunny photos? I actually haven't. Search mutant bunny, Colorado. Mutant bunny, Colorado. I'm sure it'll auto fill. Check out these bunnies. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Right? No. No, no, this isn't right. This has been going around the internet. these photos of these wild-ass... Is that real? Is this real life? These rabbits are flipping and flopping around Colorado.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Many have said it's like, yo, this is some cordyceps last of a shit. They got fucking tons of the fucking Cthulhu the rabbit. What the fuck? Apparently, the explanation for why these rabbits look this way is pretty straightforward. They kind of basically have the rabbit version of the human papillomavirus. So the Colorado parks and wildlife, like off, like there are some. spokesperson came out and was like, hey, we know about what you're seeing out there.
Starting point is 00:15:18 These are rabbit papillomas. It's producing horn-like growths or black nodules around the head. They said it really doesn't affect the rabbits much unless it's like covering their eyes or mouth. So it like sort of interferes with their ability to just sort of do their basic living. Otherwise, no risk to their health. No risk to your pets. No, it's just nothing to see here.
Starting point is 00:15:40 I'm going to show that to like this is like a parent. parents being like, this is what happens if you have sex. Turn into a HPV bunny. You will turn into a rabbit with horns. Guaranteed some Indian parent is storing this away to text their kid in college. Just so funny. They're like, mom, this is a rabbit. That's what you thought.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Yeah, well, it used to be a person. No, that was an engineering major in their second year of college. That's what that was. And then they decided to switch to English and that's what happened. And they said to pursue creative writing. What the fuck is that? And then they became horny rabbits. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Do you want me to show you the other one that dropped out of med school? Because you're not going to like the picture I have with that one. It's all fucked up. Yeah. So the bunnies. It's just so stupid. It's like what? So I turned into an animorph.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Yes. If you drop out of graduate school, you turn to an animorph. This is like, like, so terrifying, though, because it's like, I want to know the mechanism of like how what the spikes are from like what do you know what i mean like i'm like like you break it off there's hpb like out of it like what is that no i i i don't know if that's what i don't think it's a pinata um necessarily but well i mean anything can be a pinata technically yeah that is well no i just mean it's like so like it's so creepy looking Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:10 It's, again, my whole thing is I checked out the second they said it wasn't zombies because I was like, oh, and then, mm, never mind. You're like very, you're, you only look at news with potential for zombies. I don't, like, I'm not going to say I have like Google alerts set up for that, but I might, I might in many different languages, many different languages. Okay, next story, Ron Howard. Okay, so we all know Ron Howard. Oh my God, don't tell me he has HPV. Oh, my God. No, no, no, it's even worse.
Starting point is 00:17:40 He's, like, being real mushy-mouthed about J.D. Vance. Oh, no. Ron Howard, you know, if, again, he was, he was, he worked on Hillbilly Elegy. You know what I mean? I don't think you know about that. I don't know if you remember that. And he's been asked a little bit, he's like, hey, just going back to the Hillbilly Elogy thing.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Why did you cut out the couch fucking scene? Andy Griffith music right now. Yeah, right? That's your underneath. He's like, you could have had the wildest couch, fucking scene of in all of cinema history but you left that part out why are you a coward ron howard and what is that rhyme um and vulture when they interviewed him they basically asked like hey what's going on and he basically was like he's like i don't really think about it he said he quote
Starting point is 00:18:23 wouldn't have expected his rhetoric to be as divisive as it sometimes is and then also followed that up with he isn't not quote following him or listening to every word are you wait what he's not following J.D. Vance are listening to every word. He's trying to do that thing. He's like, oh, I haven't really, you know, it's like, where Republicans do when they're asked for a quote on Trump's bullshit. They're like, oh, I haven't. I don't. I don't know. I'd have to look into that. I'd have to look into that also. I'm like not checking for every single thing. The president says, I'm very busy. He's like, I missed that email. I must, it must have been a technical error or something. I don't know. Yeah, I just don't think about it. Oh, wow. That's interesting
Starting point is 00:19:00 that you have the privilege of not thinking about what's happening. Here's the thing. I'm in the highest potential class. So, like, I don't have to worry about that. So, like, anyways. It's, it's kind of actually pretty baller to only have your other existential threats to be, like, wealthy white people, but they're your friends. Or, like, HPV rabbits, you know? And those aren't even really that big of a deal anymore.
Starting point is 00:19:26 You know what I mean? He's up on those things. He also said in the interview that he texted Vance after the election, quote, Godspeed. So, all right. What? Yeah, a bunch of. people on the internet are just dunking on him right now because there's like dude ron shut the fuck that makes me so sad he has he has such goodwill with people
Starting point is 00:19:42 you know yeah but he just seems i mean it it's like this thing where suddenly they can't they don't want to get in their like real bag about ask actually like saying some real shit but again yeah ron ron i was never looking i was never looking to ron howard for the complex actually really any answer to anything about what's happening in the world yeah i think it's He only had goodwill because he was so, like, amenable, made so many, like, great movies, like, arrested development, like, all of this stuff. Like, the audience was, like, really familiar with him as, like, that kind of friendly person or funny person. Manila envelope of a human.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Yeah. You're like, yeah, you're not offensive. You're fine. You're chill. Yeah. And then he was like, oh, I actually do vote. And people are like, what? Like, why did you?
Starting point is 00:20:28 Why are you doing that? I mean, again, we don't, we don't need. to look to directors, people in Hollywood to give us anything. But in this case, it is relevant. Yeah, we only need to look to Kanye West. As we've always said on this podcast. Exactly. We're the one pro-Yea podcast out there anymore.
Starting point is 00:20:48 I feel like we're the only people willing to say that shit. But yeah, fucking Ron Howard piece. Now, some good news for people like me who love Taco Bell. A couple new things are coming back. Okay. They already had that throwback menu where I was. was able to get my fucking the mexie melt on you know what i mean shout out to y'all really appreciate that now they got a couple of the cheesy street chalupa is back i don't know if you
Starting point is 00:21:14 guys that the streets were missing that as much as i was i think i was missing that and now they have a luxe credit like this isn't an ad they need to give me a fucking money they need to give me you know what i'm fucking i'm so mad at them because like they're they have such goodwill with the american people and they they fucking ruin they i feel like they're just just, like, teasing us, you know? They're just, like, making us edge for, like, different menu items that we've always loved so that we can be like, no, please, we really loved it. Please bring it back.
Starting point is 00:21:42 And they're like, okay, fine, we'll bring it back. We are all in an abusive relationship with Taco Bell. We all know that. Literally. It's so, like, oh, they just need to commit. When they took away the Mexican pizza, I was like, this is a hate crime against Indian people. Everybody needs to understand Mexican pizza is technically Indian food.
Starting point is 00:22:00 That is culturally significant to my people. And you took it away from us. which means that we don't our vote doesn't matter to you I've seen it in like sort of like like very early depictions of the of the gods was they were eating Mexican pizzas if you look in the bug of it with Gita there's a fucking Mexican pizza there
Starting point is 00:22:17 you know you the Vedas so I was like I was pissed when I did that shit I was like you don't give a shit about us you know you don't care about us Thank God Jack isn't here today Because there's a new Fucking flavor of Baja blast
Starting point is 00:22:38 And that's one thing I'm fucking This is called Baja Midnight But I'm gonna I'm a purist So I'm a cute original I don't need midnight Okay
Starting point is 00:22:46 I already have enough going on In my life You have enough I can't Not now Taco Bell I have enough going on I'm trying to get my life together After the fire
Starting point is 00:22:55 That Pahlavi started I don't need another Baja blast flavor You throw it on the fire It gets bigger You're like Fuck What is in that
Starting point is 00:23:03 Yeah, kerosene? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's a staple. It's kerosene with high fructose corn syrup and some purple food dye. Oh. Oh, well, cool. Thanks. That's great. Well, that's going to do it for us today.
Starting point is 00:23:17 We're back with a fucking brand new episode tomorrow. And it's, I didn't plan for it to be total chaos. But it is, we get so thrown by a clip, the one I played earlier. I really implore everybody to listen because just the bullshit coming out of the right to try and make DC seem like this place that it absolutely is not
Starting point is 00:23:40 is so hilarious and white people they've done it again with some bullshit word salad that is meant to only strike fear in other white people who have never been to a city it's its own language.
Starting point is 00:23:54 You know white people love salads that aren't really salads you know what I'm talking about? Yeah, there's like, how much dressing is on there? Yeah, why is there so much mayo in this word salad? I think you are just eating some pieces of iceberg lettuce with your ranch. But anyway, it's a good one. It's a fun one.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Alex Schmidt is the guest. We hope to see you then. So until then, please take care yourselves, take care of each other, get your shots, get your vaccines. Take a fucking hike like RFK did with Dr. Oz or some shit or pretend to go on a hike where you can get inspiration, as he says. Or worms. Or brain worms. Yeah. Either one.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Or take a photo with one of those mutant bunnies. It's all good. They pose no threat. They're going to haunt my fucking dreams. More so than that Benny Johnson clip? I don't know. More so. That one's in my,
Starting point is 00:24:43 wait, they're going to haunt my nightmares. Benny Johnson's in my dreams. In my dreams. Yeah. Weapons has now been debunked by these rabbits. Yeah. Like that or D platform.
Starting point is 00:24:53 It's higher in my horror mentality. Yeah. Hey, well, I'm glad we were able to provide some kind of nightmare fuel to y'all. All tune in tomorrow. Until then, like we said, peace. Bye. Bye. The Daily Zykeyes is executive produced by Catherine Law.
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Starting point is 00:26:11 and I just looked at my computer screen. I was just like, ah, gotcha. This technology's already solving so many cases. Listen to America's Crime Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Why are TSA rules so confusing? You got a hood.
Starting point is 00:26:30 at all. I'm Mani. I'm Noah. This is Devin. And we're best friends and journalists with a new podcast called No Such Thing, where we get to the bottom of questions like that. Why are you screaming? I can't expect what to do. Now, if the rule was the same, go off on me. I deserve it. You know, lock him up. Listen to No Such Thing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. No Such Thing. I'm Dr. Joy Hardin Bradford, host of the Therapy for Black Girls podcast. I know how overwhelming it can feel if flying makes you anxious.
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