The Daily Zeitgeist - The Definitive Her Rewatch, Trained Crow Armies 5.4.20

Episode Date: May 4, 2020

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on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 132, episode one of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. Hopefully, I didn't blow that out. I did not turn my head away for some reason. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and say officially off the top fuck the coke brothers and fuck fox news it's monday may 4th 2020 my name is jack o'brien aka out here in my home i work all alone i'm just trying to make a living. I don't need to zoom from this tiny room. I don't need to be on camera.

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It goes by my home and it's only me and I walk alone. That wasn't submitted as an AKA, but Hannah Soltis, I saw you post this on your timeline and I'm just, I wanted to sing it. So thank you. Here for it. An AKA submission, random, but thank you, Hannah, to sing it. So thank you. Inadvertent AK submission. Random, but thank you, Hannah, for that. Give me a laugh.

And we are thrilled to have back in the choir, our choir co-host Lil Zam herself, Jamie Lofton! COVID time. Time to stay at home with a cat and a red pill dog. COVID time, time to sort the DVDs to boyfriend criterion. COVID time, this is a long one. One last call to all the dogs because that's how i volunteer covid time is still going really want to see move on but maybe i will next year

I know Jaime's gonna stay at home I know, etc. Did you say Jaime? I know, I kind of, this is why I wasn't on the podcast for a couple of days and I forgot how to speak. You forgot your name.

Jaime. Hello, Jaime. That was an Australian person saying my name. Hell yeah. That's from Hannah Kostanski at Hannah Makes Art. Sorry I said my name wrong. And we are thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat by the hilarious and talented Sophia Alexandra.

Yeah. Hi. She's trying to match your excitement, Jack. Crash landed into the building. How are you? I am great. How are you? I see you all the time, actually. I know. Yeah, it's funny.

It's really anticlimactic for us. Really, yeah. All right. Anyway, we'll watch 90 Day Fiancé later, I guess. Cool. Maybe talk about it. Yeah. No big deal. But I'm really excited to see you, Jack, and you, Jamie.

Yeah, it's so good to see you. I know, it's so good to see you. Your hair looks great. Thanks, I trimmed my bangs. You're a ray of sunshine. Oh, yeah. Hell yeah, dog. Oh, did you cut your own bangs?

Yeah, bitch. Actually, that is my underrated. Hell yeah. This is the sass we expect. I've been impressed with some of the haircuts I've been, like the at-home haircuts I've been seeing. You've seen some good ones? Yeah.

I think, well, maybe it's just we're like locked in, but I think my boyfriend gave himself, him and Sunny, pretty decent haircuts at home. How did he do his own back? Your boyfriend is an artiste, so we're not surprised by that. We've seen the paintings that he's doing in your apartment. Jamie, how did he do the back? I'm not sure how he did it. I'm not sure.

He positioned a mirror on a shelf. Oh, did he double mirror it? Okay. Yeah, and then I think that that was how he pulled it off. That's still so hard to do. It is so hard. To have any perspective on what's going on back there? He live streamed it, and I watched for a couple of seconds,

and then I don't know how the rest went. From the other room? Yeah, he just like, I don't know. You're like, that's enough content from you yeah i was like your your life is content jack what's the over under on you self-cutting your hair yeah self-trained uh i'm gonna i'm gonna just let it grow man just gonna let it grow bro what do you call that one is that a new vibe like do you come do you become someone else that's new chill jack the correct you never seen chill jack chic yeah chill jack yeah suddenly you got those like big frame 80s glasses i'm like what the fuck is going on with you right now yeah i want to tell you man about the seventh seal man

i'm like oh shit he starts wearing hemp necklaces out of nowhere. You're like, whoa. Starts strumming an acoustic guitar. They're like, damn. You ever heard about my man JC? Yeah. All right, Sophia, we're going to get to know you a little bit better right now because today is our rewatch pod. We're just rewatch pod we're just re-watching her we might get to uh might get to some other news if we have time there's some trolls drama uh when is there not

trolls drama uh but uh first we like to ask our guest sophia what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are okay so um if you at all follow me on social media you may know that i am trying to raise an army of crows in my yard um so i've been googling a lot about the crows i'm liking english soccer right now so i scream that. I'm trying to really just... I mean, they have the intelligence of three-year-olds. They recognize faces. So I'm just trying to get them on my side now.

What are you doing? I'm feeding them. And I'm trying to say things that they might like to hear, like, who's a pretty bird? I don't know if they enjoy that, but that's what I've settled into. Who's an intelligent creature? No, because I'm like, they're so plain.

They probably need to hear it. Oh, wow. Okay. And I'm trying to learn how to tell them apart. I think I can only tell them apart a little bit. I mean, I don't know. I think there's three of them. But they can tell us apart.

So who's got the intelligence of a three-year-old now? They can. Well, can tell us apart. So who's got the intelligence of a three-year-old now? They can. Well, not me, clearly. I mean, unless you tranquilize them and paint one of their toenails or something. Yeah, I know, right? It's going to be hard. Yeah. Or talons, whatever you'd call that, a claw. I think Charles is the big one.

Crow Petty. Yeah, they're super smart and they hold lifelong grudges and shit oh yeah that's why i'd like for them to become my army now yeah before it is too late what's your long-term goal what do you see yourself doing in your dreams you wield this you know unmatched crow power i just kind of roam the neighborhood with my murder. And are they flying behind you like Khaleesi? Do they hop along next to you on the

ground to respect? I picture some of them on my shoulders and then the others hop from tree to tree as I walk to follow me along. That's the dream, you guys. And then you have one who's like the scout up ahead

who's just kind of checking everything out up you're making sure everything's good in case yeah yeah yeah you gotta have scouts obviously everyone has to have an important job you know i want my crows to feel like they're all doing something it's a good i am fully insane yeah um anyway someone told me that uh they like it if you leave them shiny things which i already knew that they stole shiny things but i didn't know if like they would take them if you just left them so then i took some tinsel and i made hearts out of it because i'm again very lonely and oh my god they did not take them Obviously, that makes me love them more. They're just playing hard to get.

That sounds like a crow. Yeah, classic crow stuff. I've had a larger crow presence in my backyard, which is leading me to the question, are crows taking over our yards, or are these advanced scouts from your Crow Army and you're going to invade my backyard?

Obviously, we are scouting everybody's yards, but it's just for your own protection. I mean, I'm not saying we're going to invade you. I mean, that's jumping to conclusion. It's just a neighborhood watch situation. They've just shown up to protect your oil reserves. Yeah, whatever. Wherever they may be, your yard or anybody else's.

What is something you think is underrated? Yeah, okay, so cutting your own bangs is underrated because I did a great job. You nailed it. That's all I'm saying. Has there been a lot of trial and error though no no you make the one mistake one time where you do this instead of cutting vertically you cut horizontally one time and you look horrible and then you never do it again and then you just do

this and then you're chill oh that's a trick i didn't realize that vertical cut you keep the scissors straight up and down because if you go across, it's going to be a Lloyd Christmas. Wait, hold on, Jack. Pull your bangs down a little bit. Yeah, let us see how that's looking. He hit him horizontally,

didn't he? That's how you did that. Jack went full Deschanel. Jack's out here looking like he's married to a that. Hey. Wow. Hey, you know, we're all learning here. Jack went full Deschanel. Deschanel. Jack's out here looking like he's married to a property brother. God damn. Wait, is she married to a property brother? Yes.

Or they're like dating fully, right? Or they're married. They're married. Oh, they're married. They're married. This is definitely one of those facts that I've learned multiple times, and it just won't enter my brain i just it refuses i know what i mean when something's so shocking you forget it after you learn it

and then the next time you're just shocked yeah oh wait they're not married i lied they're i don't know whether or not to be giddy about that i remembered that fact about them i was like i don't think they're married. I don't think it's like that yet. They're partnered. It deserves giddiness. To be fair though, Jamie, you've been shipping them since the early 2010s.

You've been shipping Deschanel and the Property Brothers. The logical conclusion of Zooey Deschanel is for her to do the lamest thing with her life that she could do, which is marry a property brother. It makes so much sense. Yeah. But which one is she dating?

The less good looking one? Or the left one? Yeah, I figured. Okay. She's dating the weird looking one. Yeah, I figured. Is that the left one or the right one? Thank you for recognizing the one is not.

Yeah. The property brothers are not the same. I actually don't know what they look like. And I refuse to learn. I just know if know my left or right bro whoa fun fact both of their shows entered the collective consciousness in the year of our lord 2011 the new girl and property brothers new girl and property bros that's probably how they met possible they're in america's psyche i watched there's like a new Property Brothers show

that my aunt recommended to me that is called like, it's like the premise is that celebrities choose their friends who are not as rich as them, and the Property Brothers show up and renovate a celebrity's friend's house. It's a very, it's so tenuous, but I watched an episode where it's Viola Davis. Oh, isn't it?

Is it something like repaying the kindness of the people from their past or something? Is that the one? Yeah, but it's like they're celebrities. Their friends are mostly fine. Like they don't. Right, right. But so they go to Viola Davis's friend, like college friend's house, and then they do what the Property brothers do they root they

just like torch the house of personality and then it's a blindingly white like hellscape and viola davis is like thank you you're like and favor repaid uh yeah they just she ruined her college roommates house you're welcome i would love yeah i would love if like the intro segments clearly the friend is like on like hard times and it's clear the celebrity friend has no interest in helping them at all and it's like a very simple way they could crossing it off a list yeah this episode was really dark because it was like, I guess that her friend's husband had passed away. Oh no. And they added like a record player

that was built into the wall that had his signature written on it. And Viola Davis was like, look. And her friend was like, like it was just so morbid and weird. I don't know. I love making that decision for someone

that they want to stare at their dead spouse's signature for the rest of their life. It's like, no, you don't get to move on. I've decided that for you. It's going to be built into the fucking foundation of this house, this record player. This home is now built on sadness. And don't worry, we took care of that creepy jar for you that was in the way.

Those are his remains. Oh, fuck. Well, I don't know. I would recommend the show. Well, we replaced it with a cookie jar. And that's just yummy. Oh, well, open it. Open cookie jar and that's just yummy oh well open it open it look why does it play that song when i open it we heard that was your favorite song with your dead husband they turn it like it's so every

property house brothers is the same blindingly like white crypt it's horrifying dude that's literally my overrated you guys that's my overrated you're stealing it it's boring celebrity houses like kylie kanye etc hell yeah hell yeah it's true it's they their houses suck and we're seeing so much more of them now because of the quarantine. But yeah, they all look like they could be the same house. Oh, yeah. I feel like it's a person with no taste's idea of what taste is. You know what I mean?

It's like those people that thought Crash was a really good movie and deserved that Oscar. It's like you have to be that kind of dumb person to think that that movie is smart and it made you feel good that you got it. But it's not a smart movie. The dumb person's idea of a tastefully designed home.

Crash was for upper middle class white people to feel deep for like two seconds. If you think about it though, we are connected oh man yeah god i mean so and that guy was racist what about sandra bullock and her housekeeper is her best friend how much did you die during that segment oh boy i fully put the film out of my mind i bravely have not seen it oh i saw years later because i like don't watch it now you'll vomit it's the worst thing it's so bad like you should have medical supervision watching that now like with our eyes now you have to see it i i'm kind of curious i do want to see

it you know the orange couch was the like feature of all fun tech offices. What is the feature of all modern celebrity homes? I feel like there's like... Got to have thin-necked vases you can't put anything into that are white or gray. Maybe black, but that's like if you're a rebel and it's in your black room. You know what I mean?

But that probably is a room you'll never... You do need a black room, yeah. Your got but that probably is a room you'll never black room your goth room yeah i gotta have it and then for sure i would say couches that are white and carpets that are white for no reason and that makes it pretty clear that they cannot be living human lives there well yeah it just it has to feel like the most high stress environment for someone who has a job. That's what it's like being in one of those homes. You're like, everything is too clean in here. There's no way I could live like this.

I don't have the time to maintain the whiteness and sanctity of this everything. Like, oh, it's fine. You just bleach everything. I'm like, oh, you bleach everything? Or your staff does? Like, what's going on here? Yeah, I can't. Whenever I see that, I feel just I'm going dirty everything yeah who can i mean it just yeah it does seem like you're like

oh i can afford to for this to not become dirty like right yeah it's like a weird flex yeah absolutely you'd rather pay people uh to clean a house over and over and over again than just live in a house that looks really nice and cozy that people might have to clean a little less. It's really relaxing, though. You know, it reminds me of we went to Crete once, and this is kind of like what we're replicating. I would rather be Britney Spears and burn my home gym down. Yeah, my gym down.

Yeah. Blah, blah, blah. You know how that kind of thing happens. I mean, you know, one thing to that. I said, burn it down, mom. I don't know. Just get me a new gym. Yada, yada, yada. And then I murdered that whole family. And she says

that she did it six months ago. I love it. She's still out of breath explaining it. She's like, I'm going to have to address it. But I also like the detail. She's like, I'm going to have to address it. But I also like the detail. She's like, I only have two things to work out with now. I'm like, I don't need that detail.

I need the details of the fire. That was the best celebrity news I've heard in months. Oh, it was great. She's incredible. She really is. Finally, it's great. She's incredible. She really is. Finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false?

That crows like shiny things. Yeah. Those fucks broke my heart. Thank you. We've come full circle. Beautiful. I'm sure, look, I know there's crows,

Ike gang out there. Give Sophia some tips, please. No, Crow Twitter came at me and they were like leave it something shiny leave it some bright colored yarn leave him something blue i'm like am i trying to fuck this crow because right i was gonna say is there like an equivalent of the game for crows like where where are you getting these tips from pro twitter man yeah i love it's from a pickup artist who's a literal peacock all right let's take a quick break we'll be right back to tell you about the movie her and what we thought of it

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Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Don't take that out we we're we're just coming back jamie so you're gonna have to say it again but you are uh la is now giving out free tests and you're uh you're planning on hitting it up uh yeah including the asymptomatic people they're're going to give free swab tests. But it's, I mean, it sucks on a number of levels because it's LA, right? So you need to have a car in order to get the test taken. So it already eliminates, you know, whatever. America or the United States doesn't give a shit about anyone who doesn't have a disposable income.

So go fuck yourself if you don't have a car. we're we managed to get it's called Los Angeles Jamie sweetie it's so I mean it's so annoying and then if you call money if you call the hotline you're like I don't have a car they're like um well you can walk to the they're like first of all you someone does a spit take over the phone a government employee says ew to you and then you they the most they will give you is they're like well if you can take an uber dangerous to the drive-through site you can stand in between cars and still get you're just like what yeah that's just what doctor recommended advices in that totally makes sense i can't wait to get an uber hit by a prius and then get skull fucked with a seven inch q-tip but anyways our our i'm willing to get skull fucked by a q-tip

uh first just to know what it would feel like and second because we can take the car to a wendy's drive-thru and get the four for four what's what is a four for four it's the best deal in fast food it's uh it's a junior bacon cheeseburger uh medium fry four chicken nuggets and a small frosty for $4. Wow. Say less. Incredible. Say less. Wow. So good. Damn. Damn.

Can I come to get COVID tested with you? I just want to go to Wendy's also. I know. That sounds fun. You've incentivized it like a parent would for a child. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll get skull fucked for Wendy's. Guys, but that's not what we're here to talk about.

Skull fucking for Wendy's is not what we're here to talk about. Why did I make this t-shirt? I think now more than ever, we need to get skull fucked for Wendy's. I mean, I just want to let the people know what I'm about. Yeah, yeah. What's your favorite thing at Wendy's? Yeah, come on. Bring it back around.

Oh, I love the three patty cheeseburger. Whatever that means. Whatever there's three. That's intense. That is a lot of cheeseburger. Three squares of meat on there. Do they do the thing where there's cheese in between? A cube of meat.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you take a shit immediately after finishing it? No, I don't have like a- Does it slide out so easy? Because that is that kind of order. No, my digestive system is pretty attuned to a trash diet. I have a pretty good goat stomach. The only thing that messes me up is if something's super spicy.

Yeah, I typically have the spicy in spicy out phenomenon oh well obviously no but i'm saying this is a good spicy chicken sandwich is good but it doesn't it doesn't really fuck with no no i don't i don't get super spicy yeah like eating a ton of beef or fat or something doesn't typically give me the runs like i didn't say the runs i said a big big shit. You interpreted that it was negative. It just slides out a beautiful whole piece is all I'm saying. Oh, my shit's always come out like that. But fast food and just like something about fast food

always makes me go to the bathroom. But it's not what people say. It's not like, oh, I got such bad diarrhea. It's just a normal poop, but it definitely makes me have to do that. It works as a natural laxative. Yes. Yeah. Oh, no.

I'm so regular. I poop very specific times. Another weird flex. No, I have to. You know why this happens? Because I can't shit anywhere except my house. So I've had to train my body to always shit at home because I don't like shit at work.

I'm home court advantage always. I have a friend who I grew up with who only shit once a week and he had to get a special toilet because the shits were so massive. Swear to God. No, that's a lie. That's a junior high. It was the second thing I learned junior high. That's not real. It was the second thing I learned about him.

From another kid on the bus? Yeah, from another dude. No, not a kid from when I was in middle school. Who makes the special toilet? That's not possible. This was college. This was college. So, yeah.

Wow. Wait. What do we type in? Like, toilet extra large? what you just need to get you need to get the type maximum type that you have at a at a public restroom have you noticed the public restrooms really go ham on the uh flushing yeah yeah yeah because they don't want to clog big hole and extra strong wow extra strong their name is really strong yeah yeah i've never seen jack this serious about anything but in my whole life i also know about the strong flushes in uh public restrooms because my son is scared of uh loud noises and so he really

does not like public public restroom flushing is like a jet engine very powerful yeah they're too much when i was a kid the first time an airplane i was in an airplane bathroom and the toilet flushed i almost re-shit oh yeah yeah i used to i was made to feel very insecure about how loud I pee from like my mom told me that I pee like a helicopter landing when I was little and I never

and I still think about it well that had more to do with your aim than just the fact that it was just all over the place a lot of scat a lot of spray I'm really loud aggressive peer and wow that's great i think that's healthy yeah i like me a girl with a good flow okay yeah you know what that is jamie that's insecurity on your mom's part for not having yeah she was jealous she's she's out here

and she was she couldn't be happy yeah you're bringing that piss down like a fucking harrier jet with the vertical landing and she got a little paper plane landing i can't wait to hear from the people who uh see that the title of this podcast is the definitive her rewatch and uh come in and we never talk about that. We talk about her, talk about peace dreams and yeah, for the first 30 minutes. Guys, let's talk about my favorite movie, Her. But I bring a level of classiness to this podcast that I really want to keep up.

So I think we all have differing like overall opinions of like the, like how good or bad her is um but i i think it's more interesting to just talk about like things about the movie more than like you know hated it loved it whatever well can we talk about what we thought it was about each of us yes that is what makes us like or dislike it, right? Yes, of course. Should we do a recap? I think it's about the same thing.

I don't know. Some scenes just made me cringe out of my body. Yeah, yeah. Please, absolutely. So it tells the tale of Theodore Twombly. This is not a book report, Jack. Sophia, please let Jack do his presentation. Jack, go on.

He is the Michael Jordan of beautifulhandwrittenletters.com. People are obsessed with his letters that he writes for other people, which is totally the most transparent way of being like, he's sensitive because he has people's feelings for them. So annoying. Yeah. Sorry. And he's the best writer,

even though all the letters that we hear him writing is just him being like, I love you so much, I want to smash your face in. He has a real angry sexual energy going throughout. They kind of sound like lines from Spike Jonze's Where the Wild Things Are. I think that that was his movie, but there's a bunch of weird lines in that movie too

where they're like, I love you so much, I could kill you. And then you and then you're like oh yeah it's punch drunk love there's like an obsession i love punch drunk love i love punch i liked where the wild things are i did too yeah i liked that but i also haven't seen it since then so who knows Okay, so what is this? I watched this movie for the first time. I remember my mother loved it in 2013. My mother is, you know, at the time was in her late 60s. And I was like, okay, what is this about? And I was like, okay, I'm not really feeling that.

So I didn't watch it. Watched it. And is this meant to be about this man and his relationships and how he can evolve through these other women as accessories for him to find his truth? Is it about the tenuous nature of relationships between technology? Is it an examination of that? Is this because I'm trying to figure out what it's trying to communicate to me. First of all.

Yes, Sophia. I just want to say broadly, first off, that I think it's a funny movie. Like, if you're looking at it as sincere, and if you're looking at it as, oh, this guy's like held up as the paragon of like sensitivity and he's normal, I think you're missing the point. I think this is like an extremely emotionally crippled man and i don't think we're supposed to think that he's well or normal in any way um i think he is also weirdly slow and childlike in like all these other ways that aren't you know like they don't go with how emotionally intelligent quote-unquote he has to be to do the

job of writing those letters right um but i think what the movie really is about is how uh well to me at least it's about two things one is i think human beings love to tell themselves that like we are so unique you know that the human experience is so unique and special that like all of our movies about aliens are like oh aliens either want to destroy us uh but or they're like oh there's something uniquely charming about them they're so stupid and like how do they live these lives wow and i think it starts off with scarlett johansson's character being that kind of a person or ai rather. And then it ends with her being like,

Oh my God, like this is hilarious that you think this is unrepeatable. I'm doing this right now with thousands of other people and also other things I can't even explain or express to you. So I think in a certain way, it's kind of like a sit your ass down humanity movie where it's like stop thinking you're so fucking precious like yeah you know i don't know i like i like the idea i think it's a really interesting idea that an ai would like basically just like it would be

a little smarter than a human but it would still basically be human. That's an interesting sci-fi concept. It wouldn't be that much recognizably so much smarter that it would just immediately decide to start a nuclear war with Russia. But this is the thing that is confusing to me, right? Because I understand what you're saying, Sophia, about those lessons that could be pulled from it. But I think it presents so many simultaneous narratives or themes or aesthetics that I don't... It felt like at times like a really bad rom-com that I was like, this is not interesting. Or he magically brought an AI to life with cum. Or that there's like these other odd,

like if it's about this sort of evolving consciousness of the AI, I think that was done really inelegantly because they made it seem like the AI went off to college and got red-pilled by Alan Watts and came back and was like, yo, check out this dude, Alan Watts. I've been vibing with like, so I think the idea was that the knowledge grew exponentially. So of course, but I think there were five. No, I know.

But I think they reduced like that evolution to this experience. I think humans can relate to have someone going off learning about something coming back, being changed and saying, like, i think i'm growing past this thing but it made it seem like really juvenile uh in a certain way so i was just kind of like oh i see those points i guess ultimately i just didn't it didn't make me feel strongly about any of the things it was trying to do at the end yeah i don't know this movie we've covered this movie on the bechtel cast before so i and so i was like looking back at because i just like didn't get through the rewatch this movie is we've covered this movie on the Bechtel cast before so I and so I was like looking back at because I just like didn't get through the rewatch this movie is deeply annoying to me just like it looks annoying it sounds annoying everyone and every character is annoying it's

intentional you guys I know but why is it on purpose I don't know I did but but then I feel like a lot of people who love this movie don't think it's supposed to be annoying you know like I don't know there yeah I I would say like my mother I'm pretty sure like what was interesting to older people was they just took it as a very superficial thing of like man these Siri things like imagine if someone fell in love with that like what that would be like and I know some people who purely were looking at the film in that context it's a love story like to me i thought it was hilarious that like the most twee things in the world are literally what they do all the time and i think even the aesthetics of the near future is so twee and like hilarious like that mustache isn't on him because they're like oh what a cool vision

for the future that's really that looks great i think they're like this guy is ridiculous everybody's pants are buttoned up just slightly in a like high up in a way where it looks ridiculous it's also like saying that the future isn't that imaginative to me i don't know you know i believe that spike jones thinks that but i also don't know but i don't feel like it's not clear enough that like i don't know it doesn't seem like the audience is supposed to take it i don't know and the and the way that this movie just like skirts like gives technology so much like weird credit for stuff in in a way that like it was it came out in 2013 so you can't really like there's a lot that we didn't know then

and they're like spike jones couldn't have possibly known but it's like there there's not really any like even a really thought about like well where is all this information going where people are like sharing every single like shred of data from their lives with this thing and we're supposed to believe oh she's actually just gonna go off and and you know live her life and you're like no that's going to a person like there it right i don't know technology is totally benevolent and that like this could have only been made in the early tens where it's like you know we hadn't had that thought yet where like oh google and facebook are doing deeply evil things that are like controlling our minds uh and our entire like taking away

our free will like that thought doesn't hasn't like existed in in the universe of this movie it's all just like what can technology do for you it's almost like it like a lot of it plays like it's an ad for this technology um one thing i was gonna say when i was listening to you jamie what i was thinking is i guess when i say that i think it's intentional that's not quite what i mean because i don't think that that i can say that for fucking spike jones about his own movie i don't fucking know what he was thinking um yeah in no way i think actually what i was trying to say is to me i think it's consistent with the thing i'm projecting on it you know what i mean for sure and that in no way has anything to do with what spike jones might have wanted to communicate it's like what i thought it meant to me anyway i'm really curious about like what spike jones

wanted to communicate with this movie because it's like i mean what like the i i don't like the how most of the female characters are written in this movie i think that i was like i was kind of laughing with isaac when they were only showing runy mara in like dead wife oh vision yeah dead wife oh vision but she's alive but they were just like oh she's like blowing something off her finger and she has a little cone in her head you're like fucking whatever always like a scarf blowing in the wind and then and then when they're divorced she gets a middle part and you're like all right we get it enough visual you know sophia coppola signifiers uh but like they're i don't know i like the the one character that i was like i actually

felt for her was i like amy adams's like character i don't like anyone in the movie was olivia wilde meant to be an objective was she meant to just show how shitty joaquin felix is right like is that the point of her of that date is to show that he is like incapable of like i don't know like they made it seem like oh wow this woman's making it weird for our protagonist by being like don't kiss here let's let's take a oh, wow, this woman's making it weird for our protagonist by being like, don't kiss me in the tongue. Here, let's take a quick break, and then I want to get back to Olivia Wilde and just the way the women are written in this movie, because it's kind of weird.

For a movie called Her, it seems like it's very written and imagined from a male perspective. What would make you think that? Is it that the male character who's a woman is someone you never see? That was literally meant and invented

to serve the man in the beginning of the movie. Yeah. That's also I can't imagine he was doing this intentionally as a metaphor but like the women are so objectified and just completely seem like they are designed to serve all his characters are hers also they're like yeah alexa's where they're just like well let's take a quick break we'll be

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And by the way- I think the only good character is Scarlett Johansson because I actually like her and not because she's a good character is scarlett johansson because i actually like her and not because she's a good character but because she has the good sense to leave everybody like are you guys not with the ais that group there but it's like that it's so hard to be like on the side of the ais when you're like the ais are just like elon musk's little butt Like they're like, I don't know. I don't like,

like Amy. But Scarlett, I guess Scarlett Johansson is not a character to me. I treat that as, that's not a, that's an AI, like it's.

I mean, Scarlett Johansson's character, like to me, like I like, I like where she ends if we are in this like utopia where she can actually go out on this amazing journey and isn't just whispering in Mark Zuckerberg's ear,

like, here's Joaquin Phoenix's social security number. But so, I mean, if that is like, I think that's what we're supposed to take away from it, which is nice, but it's also like the way she's written, it totally ignores the whole like dichotomy of like why are female voices used in tech for service roles only anyways which is like well documented of like it's really hard to get um you know someone to do your bidding and uh in like a tech voice it's all female voices um yeah and it's like she's got those weird like

it's almost like a i'm trying to think of places it shows up but like the fifth element and stuff where it's like i'm a like a sexy little confused baby and like tell me about your world and then she's he's like well like and then a guy does something really unimpressive. He's like, well, Samantha, this is something I like to call cereal. And she's like, oh, wow. That's like so awesome. And it's just, yeah. But she also reads into filth at the end where she's like, oh God,

let me come up with like a metaphor your tiny brain can comprehend, sweetheart. But like the women who, there's too much space where there should be ideas that challenge me but instead sweetheart there's emptiness okay but she can your pea-sized brain get that sweetheart i love that that's my favorite part i do like that she bails on him. Yeah. So let's talk about the women who aren't Scarlett Johansson and aren't Amy Adams. I feel like all the women have these, they're intentionally scary. The woman he has the phone sex thing with, she's like, choke me with a dead cat.

like she's like choke me with a dead cat and he like it's not that like he is emotionally like distant and like like if they wanted to do that he would have been you know weirded out by something else but she's like choke me with a dead cat and they like olivia wilde's character like she's like you're really creepy dude like kind of jumps to that like quickly i just feel like it's like a guy who's scared of women who are sexually empowered version of sexually empowered women well i think he's like so scared of women's emotions that he was like oh um what's the worst thing that can happen to you on a date that like a really beautiful woman who you're having a great time with tells you to adjust your kissing technique and then tells you that she emotionally is in a place where she can't be fucked with and just wants honesty that to me is like the biggest tell on him and his fucking

like marriage you see that's the problem. That's why I like this movie because it's told from that dude's side. See, these women are tripping. I was just trying to have some weird ass random phone sex. And then this fool's like, choke me with a dead cat. What the fuck? Then I'm on a date. I think this woman's normal.

She finally seems like a keeper. But then she's all like, yo, this is how you need to kiss me like what the fuck and then it's like yo you better call me like you're my boyfriend now relax dude like stick my dick in my phone again no but i mean that's like the perspective of like that's how these women are presented yeah no no exactly like and i feel like i've been well I've been a Teddy Twombly type dude, very alone, very unwilling to examine my shit and trying to put like all of the results of my dating life through the perspective of what's not me. All these other people are fucking weird. I don't get it. This doesn't make sense.

And I think that's what this sort of does. sense and i think that's what this sort of does like even with um who is it the like when he looks at the woman uh when they're like looking at that couple and he's like yeah she only dated pricks or chads and now she's a nice guy and like she's like loving it it's like this same there's this like sort of fancy nice guy fantasy shit but yeah a lot of men pursue energy you pursue the nice guy tactic because you do not want rejection so you play it nice because then it's it's vague enough that you don't like your your intent can't be read properly and then you can just come off as a nice person they won't be rejected as hard as if you said hi i'm being honest i'm interested in you would you ever want to date me and they say no okay you can keep it, but you don't want to hear that. So you'll just be like,

hey, do you want me to pick you up some Chipotle or something? Also, every woman that appears in the narrative compliments Theodore on what an incredible writer he is, which we as the audience know is not true. Every single, they all are like you're such a good right and you're like no he's not the moment with the female character that makes me laugh out loud every time i see this movie is when they bring in um angela from mr robot but she's called isabella in this movie and she's like they're like the body surrogate and then it's like it's you know it's just like joaquin phoenix is fucking a computer and then you know he they bring in the surrogate and then at the end she's so overwhelmed by how much joaquin phoenix loves fucking his computer that she like bursts into

tears and she's like it will always love you guys and you're like what it's so you're supposed to think she's ridiculous it's so but the craziest thing about that character the craziest thing about that character is that you're supposed to think i think you're supposed to think it's beautiful which which is silly no no i think he has the weirdest and the worst sense of humor i think the dead cat thing is supposed to be a joke too and it's not funny in any way like he's it's not he's just not he was like imagine if someone's freak was some kink was like the dead cat thing it's like that's not a joke yeah but if it's gonna be that ridiculous then like as a narrator or writer like you need to be more like careless about his feelings then like he's right he's like handled too delicately for it to be like comedic like where in a comedy you just want it to you just want to compound the pain like because i would

have laughed about this dude who's just like going through a series of like lame relationships and then he just gets ghosted by an ai that's why why I like it. That's what makes me laugh. I think you're able to look at, because I was getting all these other cues and I'm like, are you trying to be serious about that? Like, I don't, what? I love Joaquin Phoenix as a performer. He seems like a great person,

but I'm like, I really don't need to see any more movies about how fucking complicated and misunderstood he is. And like, it's's just it's so many movies where you're just like um did you ever think about how joaquin phoenix feels and i'm like you've been asking me to think about how joaquin phoenix feels for my entire life on earth i've thought about it enough i'm good i'm done i'm tired of people telling me that his performances are deep or nuanced when it's just the same sad man. Yeah, the guy jumped off in the dark with an earpiece in.

I give him an Oscar now. Oscar! I jumped off in the dark and I brought the OS to life with cum. I thought by far the best thing about this movie was it had very cool looking things just randomly throughout the city. Bedwife edition. Urban Outfitters catalog. The movie won the Academy Award

for best screenplay. That's a weird choice. People will give Spike Jonze anything he wants. He should just keep making Jackass movies and I would be so happy. You know what, Mike? DJ Daniel has entered some interesting

information into the discussion about the intent of the film from Spike Jonze and what his whole thing is. When he was asked about what the film says about our relationships to technology, his answer is, quote, I think there's not a simple answer to it and the movie tries to, you know, the movie is my attempt at asking those questions.

It touches on all of those themes that you're talking about in terms of the way we live in our modern life right now but also it's writing about something that i think has maybe always been there or been here which is our yearning to connect our need for intimacy and the things inside us that prevent us from connecting and that sort of tension has always been there so i think you know where we're at right now has a particular set of challenges. But what I'm talking about has probably existed as long as we've existed.

This movie has been brought to me by the Facebook company. This is another interesting point. And now this is where I think he's not really being clear because he was asked directly, you know, like, is this film meant to feel

melancholy or romantic or what? His answer is quote i think the other thing that's been really exciting about this is that as i've talked to people the variety of reactions for what the movie's about is wide you know like some people find it incredibly romantic some people find it incredibly sad or melancholy or some people find it creepy some people find it hopeful that makes me really happy to hear you know because to me it's everything it's all these different things but no one found it funny a lot of them are contradictory and i like hearing what it is funny i think it is funny he never says that anybody found it funny that's insane to me

he doesn't know that i mean it's fine if you don't think that i mean he listed every other emotion you could have had from it well not really you couldn't have. It didn't make me sad, but I get it, I guess. Melancholy? I don't know. There's also that moment with the Olivia Wilde character where she says, like, at my age, I can't let you waste my time. And she's like 28.

And you're like, but I don't know. But Jamie, why isn't she already with someone? She's 28. She's 20. She's 20. She's like, listen, I have... We're in double overtime at this point. Yeah, she's like, I have a year and a half until I'm absolutely murdered.

So don't waste my time. Can I tell you guys my favorite scene in the movie? Because I think this is the funniest part by far. the movie because i think this is the funniest part by far um is when they duet on the ukulele song it's and the lyrics of the song are so terrible and simple just the idea to me this is how i interpret it again this is totally i guess no one lives in my world but that's fine in my mind i was like oh my god she is infinitely intelligent and this man has made her so basic that she's duetting with him on a fucking ukulele song and these are the best lyrics she's could come up with that's how much of a detriment to her life he is oh she yeah and then the amy adams character who's like the you're like okay it's a it's a woman and we know

what her job is what a treat but then her job is she's a video game designer and she's designing a game about being a mom you're just just... Perfect mom score. Perfect mom score. Perfect, perfect, perfect. Jealousy bonus. Okay, guys, we're back. Just a quick moment of technical difficulties. That discussion did get so heated, Jack left abruptly. And he said he had a call,

but I don't know if he did. He could be lying. He probably did, but he might not have. We don't know. It's weird. Usually people aren't like crying very frustrated tears when they get a call and also we saw his phone and it was

it was doing one of those eye photo like movie slideshow things it was and then his home screen was the poster for her so i think that it was kind of hard do you think i'm just again with this movie right i i have to i'm really curious i want to ask my mom about it because i remember her the reason i didn't watch it is because i wasn't interested in an examination or like this hypothetical uh thought experiment of being like yeah man what if you did fall in love with one of those things huh and i'm like at the time i was like at peak peak singleness and i was like i don't need i'm living that right now and it doesn't work because siri can barely talk back and smarter child is only text and aim isn't supporting it anymore um but i don't know i

don't know yeah i'm like i guess i i am not. I feel like parents generally like this movie, but also parents have less of an understanding of technology than we do. I'm also, I think, Sophia, you have a superpower in that you could watch the movie and have zero empathy, sympathy, anything for Joaquin Phoenix and just be like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I wish. Pretty much. That's what the movie was to me right when I think

of how you even watch it I'm like whoa dude that's pretty metal I want to watch every movie yeah just be like nope I'm sorry the joke's on you fool I don't care what this is about no because the lesson that I took from it is like we are silly humans AI technology

or like to me, AI really is a stand in for aliens. So I was like, well, it's just saying that there's alien life forms and understandings and stuff that we can never understand. And it's funny that we think we're so special and our experiences are so special because they're not,

they're super twee, you know? And to me, like the movie was about like women also just being more, way more developed than men and having to leave them behind so i saw my own version of this movie clearly no one else saw i want to see that version of it that's like that makes so much sense i don't know yeah the most i was able to get out and i had to skip around because this movie is so frustrating to like it was fun to like be

fast forwarding through it and every scene i would stop on i'd be like oh my god like you fast forward it's joaquin phoenix and a ukulele you fast forward it's chris pratt with a little shit mustache you fast forward it's like olivia wilde being like i'm so old yeah my eggs are gonna die it's all exhaust i can Okay. But I did watch every second of was Jexy. What the fuck is Jexy? Okay. It is a movie that came out last year. That is a parody of her. It stars Adam Devine.

And. Oh my God. Is that where it's like an Alexa? Uh-huh. And it's ruining his life or something. Yeah. And I didn't, I did not go into it being like, this is a direct parody of her,

but it is a direct parody of her that was released six years after her. I have no idea why it came out. It's really bad. There's a lot of great people. Rose Byrne is in it. Ron Funches is in it. Charlene Yee is in it.

It's the worst movie I've ever seen in my entire life. Kid Cudi is in it. But I liked Jexy. It was really weird. Yeah, there's a whole scene where Adam Devine and the object of his affections sneak into a Kid Cudi concert. And then Jexy screws things up. But Jexy, I enjoy jexi more than i enjoy

because at least you're like it's at least they're they're i don't know you're not supposed to take it seriously it's still a really fucked up movie though jexi is she's a wild did you guys not laugh at seeing joaquin phoenix on the beach in full clothes this movie delights me i'm sorry yeah i think the difference is like where i eye rolled you were able to take that eye rolled yeah a step further into laughter i just went been like i was almost like it was being like yeah shut up spike like what are you trying to be deep here but i couldn't i think i was unable to even receive it that that way uh but yeah shout out to that i want i want to yeah i was like i want to watch this movie again with sophia's like lens on because i yeah i watched it again this morning

i remembered it pretty well i still watched it i. I was like, this is really fun. You're like, guys, this shit is fucking. I said no one out loud. Oh, man, I can't wait till she leaves him. I think Spike Jonze is like, this is an Oscar winning love story. They like and also it's like it kind of like it doesn't end badly for Joaquin Phoenix's character. Like he's alone, but he's also like. He's back with like someone he kind of half dated maybe is what's implied yeah he's fine like there's there he should something bad should have happened to him at some point in

you know i think the worst thing was when she got red pilled by alan watts on youtube and it's funny because i was like damn when they said alan watts i'm like oh she's getting trippy now because i remember it was like one of the first books i read that completely like head fucked me uh but yeah uh i just feel like yeah if they were gonna explore like those things they could do it that's i don't know i don't see the thing is spike jones is so nebulous and trying to explain what his intent was i don't even know he doesn't even know what he's like it's kind of everything i'm like okay well then i can't have an opinion is everything this yeah he like this movie is not as deep as it thinks it is i think it just shows his whole ass and he maybe

doesn't realize that yeah that's what i think is so brilliant but he doesn't i guess think that about it's a bummer too because there's there's, like, I generally really like Spike Jones stuff, but this is, like, I think his, at least, like, awards-wise, his best-regarded movie, and I just don't like it. You know, people, look, as artists, we all explore,

you know, and they're not always the things we think they are. I can't wait to write a boring dogshit movie and get every award on the face of the planet. Watch. And then you'll be like that person who goes on stage to take your award and go, this is bullshit. I don't know why I gave you a French accent. Well, once she's going to be getting her award, she will have a French accent.

I'll be French, yeah. And then we'll always be like, you know, Jamie's actually from Brockton, Mass. I don't know why she's talking like that and then I'll get cancelled and I can mercifully die Lil Poopy exposes you she's like remember where you come from Jamie

Lil Poopy's gonna dox me for the next movie watch send in some suggestions maybe we'll consider them. Maybe we'll see what's on Netflix. We'll see what's available. And we'll give a definitive talk that will venture into the power of urine streams as well. That is a guarantee for each of these discussions.

But, Sophia, thanks for coming on Daily Zeitgeist today. Thanks so much for having me. Just tell us, where can people find you, follow you, listen to you in all the many forms. Right. So glad you asked because I have a podcast with my friend, miles gray. Hold on. Yeah. It's called four 20 day fiance. What?

Yeah. It's a half recap, half game show podcast about the reality show. 90 day fiance. What? And we're high the whole time. What? I know. No. I know. and it's on ir and it's on ir radio oh my god i mean it's crashing the charts timing the charts guys uh whatever however you want to

take that um what else you got and you have another podcast too it's true um i just um i have a podcast called private parts unknown uh where we travel for love and sexuality we um interview people about love and sex around the world and we just got profiled in the business insider for getting professionally jerked off in tokyo so my god if you want to listen to that it's up and also uh and also you have also given your input on a guide to fingering uh for people who are into digital stimulation that's right letting letting people who might be awkward digitally that's right know how to finesse no hedgehogging on my watch boom um okay is there a tweet you like? Yes. This tweet is by Sovereign C, C-E-E. And it is,

I have never saw a month get up out of here the way April did. That made me laugh so much. Oh, man. Jamie, how about you? Where can people find you, follow you, and what's a tweet that you like? You can follow me on Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help,

Instagram at Jamie Christ Superstar. Listen to the Bechdel cast. Listen to the episode of the Bechdel cast about her. My friend Jesse came on the podcast, and it was his favorite movie, and then he left being like, I'm sad. It's a fun episode. He was a real twombly at the end he was like i'm sad uh so uh and then a tweet i'll recommend is uh kate katie delaney tweet she's the best uh she started a thread that says drop your favorite unsolicited

dm in the replies and then someone just cold dms her and said are you a stroke survivor so that um and there's a lot of great replies on on the thread so recommended i know i was like what did they think they were saying i want to read an essay on it. Oh my God. You can find me on Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, at Miles of Grey. And like Sophia said,

on 420 Day Fiance. And this Tuesday, Sophia, I think we'll do it. We'll do a live stream as we record so you can see, get an inside look of the literal session,

recording session, smoke session, as we talk about trash tv and that'll be on twitch.tv slash 420 day fiance more details to come shit that's gonna be tomorrow actually well gotta dust the cobwebs off my brain um okay now let me talk about some tweets that i like there's really just one and it's from jabuki and all he did was cut this video of raven simone i believe on her ig live i don't know what is happening it looks like maybe she had cooked something and was eating it or someone had cooked something for her and is eating it and she's merely responding to the bite um but the way he cuts the mozart track

lacrimosa the uh it's like a requiem. You know from Amadeus. Over it, it just gives it this whole other level. And I don't know how else to describe it. wow wow Wow. That's some real Disney villain energy going on there. Anyone, like, maniacally laughing to that song will always just hit my heart. Oh, my God.

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