The Daily Zeitgeist - The Definitive Men In Black Rewatch, Respect Amphibians 4.27.20

Episode Date: April 27, 2020

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It's Monday, April 27th, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Time to stay inside. Yes, it is. That was courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi, man. And my pipes. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Oh, when the Zoom is online, miles of gray, Jack O'Brien, that's the roney.

When the sun seems to shine, but we're all stuck inside your inquiry. Zooms will ring, ding-a-ling-a-ling, ding-a-ling-a-ling, and they'll think you're at the mall. With your Zoom virtual background, I just made up that last part. Thank you to Lorcan RR Rowley Lorcan. Sounds like a fantastic experimental drug, but also fantastic

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And I also cut the tag off of my mattress. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by our co-host, the hilarious, the talented Lil Zam, or Lil Zam. I like to pronounce the T's. Lil Wayne. Lil Zam herself I like to pronounce the T's. Little Wayne. Lil Zam herself. Jamie Loftus! Quar keeps us inside where we belong.

Where my boyfriend's high and son needs a knife. Quar keeps us inside where we belong far from the mensa hose and where's that bonies go oh that one's from official dickhead at abtrusil oh i love it where my boyfriend's high and sunny's he's a knife. I didn't hear that. That's incredible. So good. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our fourth seat by one of the greats. She's hilarious. She's talented.

One of our favorite guests here on the Daily Zeitgeist. She is Brandi Posey! Hey, Brandi. You're a fine girl. What a good wife you would be if you could have weddings, but you can't

because we're in quarantine. Posey! Nice. Man, shout out to all the canceled weddings. I know. It's like a weird thing. I have a few friends getting married this year and I remember when I had a friend

who had a wedding that was supposed to be in april and when it first hit they're like i think we're gonna have to cancel it i'm like i yeah um yeah okay yeah up to you your call yeah i would say yes i mean you see there was like a wedding that took place where they put they still did it but they socially distanced and guests couldn't go, so they had cardboard people in the audience. It was real weird. Oh, that looks like demolition, man. There's a lot of screens, people that turn around and talk to you and stuff. I was talking about that.

It would be fun, because the Till Death Do You Apart thing, if you actually have the wedding, it's pretty quick. So there's not really a lot of commitment there. Oh, and the headline for it even says amid coronavirus. Why would you do the cutouts? You're not fooling anyone. Yeah, who are the cutouts for? I mean, I'm looking at this photo you just sent, Jamie,

and it's truly like you were trying to pretend, you were trying to deceive burglars who were casing your house that you are having a raucous party and it's not just Michael Jordan on a train track. And it's literally like they would have had to have done that themselves. I think if you're going to do it, do it all the way.

Paint some faces, you know? Did they then go into a shooting drill where they had to figure out which guests to shoot like in every movie? Oh, it's like the MIB shooting group. MIB. MIB. Yeah.

Tell us about this dime grouping in the center mass of this cutout, Bradley. That guy was going to actually oppose this marriage. What if they run out of hole? Oh, for sure. Yeah, it's like, what is this? Although I would see someone who put in that much time where they had cutouts and a whole narrative that was going to play out between just the two of them

with no audience. I respect that, for sure. I hope he still punched his father-in-law's cutout after the reception. That's what I hope ended up happening. Fucking knocks the head off. Yeah, it would be great to plant ex-boyfriend

cardboard cutouts. How dare you just throwing wine glasses at cardboard. You could tell your new husband to be like, listen, he doesn't object, but he's simmering the whole time. He's not going to let it go. Paint his face a little extra red.

Change the angle of those eyebrow lines. Okay, you know what? I've come all the way around. This was a good idea. Yeah. I might just start doing this in my own house. I ordered another doll online, guys. It's over.

I wonder if they made any of the uncles too drunk in the cutout. Just kind of slouched over in their seat. Yeah, they're like, yeah, Laird's been going through it. Guys, this is normally the time when we look forward at the news we're covering. But for the most part, we're just going to be talking about Men in Black, which is all the news you need. That is the movie we watched over the weekend, you watched over the weekend.

So it's time to talk about that eventually. If we have time, we might also talk about Disney and a libertarian economist who has really, really stepped in it with his predictions for the coronavirus. But first, Brandi, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? I've been going down a real hole on this artist from the 70s named Rowena Morrill, M-O-R-R-I-L-L. She did a lot of fantasy sci-fi covers.

She's the only only I watched Mandy recently And like the art from that movie is based a lot on her work So I've just been like looking at a lot of like Babes fighting dragons And that's how I'm getting through quarantine Oh yeah Now that I look at her work I'm like this is like the cover of every fantasy book

Like I ever like looked at in a library almost. Yeah, she's so cool. And I'll just spend like, I don't know, an hour or two to be like, ah, what if this was what the world looked like? Okay, this is my break. Yeah. You're like, what if I threw this spear

through the Minotaur's eye? Yeah, exactly exactly this is beautiful this is so cool yeah her stuff is really is really really fun she she's like I don't know a ton about her because there just isn't that much written about her but I did find out she was completely self-taught and she's like one of the

only she was like the only woman in this space in the 70s at all and Make the podcast, Brandy. I'm ready. Consider it done. I'm starting 15 podcasts during this thing. I am sick of the sound of my own voice. And she did illustrate some,

like she illustrated the cover for Sand Kings, which I think we're all familiar with. I'd actually never heard of it. But yeah, that is such a very specific aesthetic that everybody is jacked and all the women are in bikinis. And yeah. And they're just fighting monsters. Metallica used it for their Power Metal demo tape.

The art is on the Power Metal demo. It feels almost like I hate that to hear that she's self-taught because I love the story where her and Lisa Frank went to the same art school. And there was a moment where they were on the same trajectory. And she's like, I'm going this way. And she's like, and I'm going that way. The Lisa Frank story is one of the best business stories of all fucking time. I want the Lisa Frank release.

She, oh my God. There's a whole Jezebel expose about it five or six years ago. It's a cocaine-fueled company. She had this trash husband who cheated on her with her second in command. And then Lisa frank was like i'm out i'm moving to like my pink palace like whatever i'm and then her husband took over the company and just like always like turned the the like made it freezing in the building it would be like 40 degrees in the or however cold it was yeah he'd be on cocaine, stomping around, screaming at people drawing pandas

for years in Arizona, of course. It's great. Of course it's in Arizona. I could feel the Arizona dripping off that. Cocaine-fueled warehouse drawing pandas, that's Arizona. Where's that docuseries? Holy shit.

I know. I want to see that. It was an incredible one-off piece that is like, it's fucking time. like an incredible one-off piece that is like it's fucking time it's called inside the rainbow gulag it came out in 2013 so he she hasn't really been involved with her like she created the aesthetic and then her husband and cocaine have been just recreating it ever since? No, I, she has since gotten divorced from the husband and the husband has like started some like t-shirt company.

So I think she might be back involved and that's why there's like Lisa Frank stuff in like urban outfitters now, but she would. Oh, yo, as I search, this is what I, I'm like,

what's going on? She has two sons. Okay. Yeah. Hunter green and forest green. Uh, yeah. Uh, yes. Her son, forest green uh yeah yes her son forest green uh who is the one who's like running her instagram account uh-huh really like that's why the lisa frank this is

like an article from l.com from last summer but yeah her 20 year old son at the time who goes to ucla has basically been like talking like miley cyrus diplo through the lisa frank account and just basically being like yo the brand's relevant mom like just let me fucking like talk on behalf of it and yeah so many sons so many sons getting involved with these brands you know i'm glad her sons are because like her husband sucked but i'm glad that the sons are like carrying the tradition on but But then also if you look her, like her whole, like she got her business started by stealing art from indigenous artists. So she's also trash.

Wait, what, what culture is the happy killer whale from? I want to know. Yeah. I want to be part of that tribe. Yeah. Who should I be crediting instead?

She, and I think it was like her early work was all stolen and then she made all the money that she launched her company. It was a whole thing. It's like how Barefoot Contest is built on dark money, but you're like, you can't think too hard about it. Gotcha.

What is something you think is underrated, Brandy? I put my overrated and my underrated together here. Underrated amphibians, overrated reptiles. I don't think we think about amphibians enough because they're between a fish and a reptile. I think we give snakes and shit like they're too popular.

What do you think? Give me an example of an amphibian that should be more popular. That little salamander guy that looks like he's smiling. I don't know. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, like those little guys. Love a salamander. They're like less scaly. They're fun. I'm just going to look up. I came up with this right before we did this. Yeah, just like there are so many crazy ass frogs. Yeah. Like crazy frog, for instance.

Yeah. Pepe the frog. Yeah. They all come from this common lineage. I think that frogs, though. Yeah. Like when you bring that up, I'm like, that's right. They can bang under like they can breathe underwater, too. Like they're they're not limited.

And I think maybe we have to look at that as a true superpower in nature. They're limitless. Yeah, they can be wherever. They're Bradley Cooper, dude. That's so funny. Yeah, but like where's the conspiracy theory that all the rich people in the world are amphibians?

You don't hear that. Yeah, right. It's only reptiles. Rather than like reptiles. Nah, they got it all wrong. They got it all wrong. The real powerful ones are amphibious. You don't hear that. Yeah, right. It's only reptiles. Rather than reptiles. Nah, they got it all wrong. They got it all wrong. The real powerful ones are amphibious, man.

Absolutely. From the shape of water, that was amphibious. That wasn't really a fish man. He was more of an amphibian man. That's true. Amphibian fuck monster. Exactly.

Would you rather have that or Jeffrey Epstein? Those are the two. That's the scale. I think it's amphibians. Yeah. Love the fish man. That guy are the two. That's the scale. I think it's amphibians. Yeah. Love the fish man. That guy ruled.

Yeah. And finally, what is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Inflatable dinosaur suits do not count as PPE. I'm going to just. What? Hold the fucking phone. That famous suit we see people doing skateboard tricks in the lake that's

not medically suitable to protect you from uh so how did you find guys i gotta call my wife at the hospital real quick sorry center office some bad info look when this all started i bought a couple of costumes because i was like just in case i just want to make sure I'm good to go. Look, honey, I got to tell you something. I got to tell you something. But please don't let the first words you say, I told you so. Okay? But I have to tell you something.

But don't let that be the first thing you say. That dinosaur suit might not actually protect you. So I'm sorry. Look, I just want it to be true that they work, but they don't. And I realize now it may actually, you're right, it may have been the reason for your light fender bender. It is hard to drive in that thing. It's a little bit difficult, yeah.

But you are in your own airbag at the same time. You're double bagging it. Yeah. Exactly. Just want to show up to the hospital with COVID-19 in a T-Rex suit. Just like, I'm not contagious. I'm containing it. I'm containing.

Why is everybody so into that suit, though? I mean, it's hilarious. It's really funny. It's a good suit. Yeah. The way it moves is really good. And if you're at the hospital, I feel like everyone gets a Patch Adams vibe from it. It makes people, they're like, oh, this is fun.

It's the new clown nose. It's so funny. I remember on Halloween this year, there were roving dino gangs in the neighborhoods of kids trick-or-treating. Yeah. It was wild to the point where I'm like, are you all this unoriginal? This is the fad. The fad is so strong. All y'all just said okay i guess we're all

dinosaurs but the sad thing is when you see a group of dinosaurs and one kid has like the defective suit that clearly doesn't hold the air in so like the head's all droopy and shit and it looks like the dude like like having like passing out midway on a walk while his friends got the rigid t-rex suit on it's a sad he's showing signs of a stroke. Yeah, just slowly. It's like the right side is failing a bit. Yeah, I mean, I can't be too hard on them because I had the same

Halloween costume as everybody when I was their age, except mine was like fucking Superman mask with the store-bought Superman crappy. Why did we even need a Superman mask? That store-bought Superman crappy. Why did we even need a Superman mask? That's my question.

They're scary. They're really creepy. So Black and Brown Children Co. wear their internalized white supremacy on the outside. Yeah. Exactly. For Halloween this year, I think I'm going to wear one of the inflatable T-Rex suits, but with a Borat costume over it. That's my plan this year I think I'm gonna wear one of the inflatable T-Rex suits but with a Borat costume over it that's my plan this year

and a pimp from a problematic pimp bag costume like the fur hat now you've hit the trifecta of fuck you costumes I think that recognizable Halloween costumes are kind of underrated because there's nothing worse than someone explaining to you what they are.

Like they're at a party. You're like, I don't know what that is. Yeah, right. They're like, do you like experimental German cinema? And I'm like, wait, no, actually forget it, dude. I get it. You're some kind of clown or whatever. Fine. a clown or whatever fine i've been digitizing my home videos and there's like a long ass video of

my brother when he's three trying to explain which nascar race car driver he said like he's dressed as to other kids and they just like he loses them he's like yeah i'm bill elliott he has mcdonald's on his back and they're like we're ghosts like sorry sorry man it's it's the same energy as having someone explain a dream to you it's like that kind of thing we're like like sorry sorry man it's it's the same energy as having someone explain a dream to you it's like that kind of thing we're like uh-huh i don't i don't care i never wanted but like wasn't bill elliott probably about to like retire was he gonna retire maybe by the time i don't know i'm thinking of like how early this was 2000 so i think he might have still been in the make i don't know they were it was at

the point where they made also i'm also thinking of like my early memories of bill elliott as a race car driver and like that's way back and then i'm also remembering to be a nascar driver your eyes hands and feet just need to work you don't have to be running like a 9.5 second 100 meter dash it's not a game of skill it's not a game of skill oh i mean you try you try and take that thing you try and take 700 wild horses around those corners but i'll say it it's not a game of skill yo i would love to see that best news show someone with no driver's license all right asshole now you're in a nascar race oh that's fun i would pay uh all right guys real quick let's check in with richard epstein i think everybody was

thinking it uh so let's just go ahead and do it uh he's a libertarian economist uh who i referenced like three weeks ago because he uh he writes for the hoover institute at stanford uh he's very well respected law professor and economist and he was just out here being like guys it's not that bad the deaths are gonna top out at 500 and like this is all just a way for the government to seize power wait he thought the his first death estimate was only 500 human beings in the United States. Total, total, yes. And then people pointed out how his thing was already wrong two days later, that 500 people had died.

And he upped it. He went back and edited the article so that it said 5,000. Oh, okay. So now he's good. Now he's got it. Still had a it said 5,000. Oh, okay. So now he's good. Now he's got it. Still had a couple more zeros, dude. He's still publishing things where he argues that this is all bullshit.

It's not like conspiracy theory shit, but it still obstinately insists that the government doesn't need to like do lockdowns and they should be uh just letting people who are at risk just social distance themselves or like lock themselves away and it's just it's truly it reminds me of that thing uh where like people in cults are above average intelligence because you can just like convince yourself of any anything when you're smart enough like you're good enough at arguing so you can argue whatever truth is convenient for you it really is like he is still out here still finding a way to just have his head so far up his ass uh it's pretty fun though to

kind of follow him on twitter because every time he posts an article there's just like 12 likes and like 12 000 people just being like yo shut the fuck up how can you still be talking right now i mean yeah people like this who have gone out i mean everything you boil these assholes arguments down they always boil down to money is more important than human life that's essentially it because the rest of the article is like i don't know if based on the death toll if this is worth the damage to the economy fuck that not enough people give a fuck about how the economy works in that sense like we're not business owners we're not the we're not the owner or ownership class we're the worker class that does not mean anything to me so what i need to hear is

my life is worth something so people should just be like sorry sir your take is actually completely fucked up because your bottom line is money is more important than human life and like that's just not how we're gonna bang as a species into the future but hey i don't know that could be the way we're going well and, and it's like, God forbid somebody close to him actually gets it and then he is forced to have some sort of empathy at all. That's literally what it would take for him to be like, ooh, ooh, ooh.

You just can't extend that thought to somebody that you don't know. It's just horrific. Yeah. Yeah. He's incapable of it. It's a convenient mental space to be in where you absolutely deny that anything bad could happen to you and that's where every that's the only

place you can operate in to be able to go out here and scream your head off like we need to open these nail salons up because i mean my goodness if it if it's even one degree closer to you you begin looking at it completely different completely different yeah i'm excited for the bowling alleys though guys uh let's let's hit up those bowling alleys that's what that's one of the first things they're opening up and thank god i've missed bowling that's and also like one of the most i mean every environment you think of is the germiest environment but like bowling alleys are germy as hell. The shoes.

The shoes, the ball. You guys don't switch shoes and share shoes with strangers when you're just going about your everyday life? I love just shoving my fingers into a ball. You guys never just roll a spitball down the lane and then fucking let that thing fly? Let that thing fucking roll. Seriously.

But yeah, it's sort of, who needs, I mean, again, that's what's so, it's so clear, like, if that's a thing that's being prioritized, the bowling alley, or people are saying like, I mean, you gotta be able to open the bowling alleys. Like, who, that's a very clear recreational activity

for a specific group of Americans. That's the dude lobby. Yeah. Big dude. Big bowling shirts out here on these streets. These guys are like, if the bowling alley isn't open, then I can't wear the shirt that covers my

paunch that seems like I have a hobby of some kind. And I can't wear that with the fedora, not at the bowling alley. Exactly. Well, it's also these idiots. It's like they can't just be friends with a guy without an activity of some kind. They're like, I need to have something to talk about separately from actually just communicating with a friend of mine that I care about because I can't tell him I care because then I'd be

again. Yeah, right. It's so toxic that you're like, ah, must inject some activity so it's not meaningful human communication which I have mistaken for weakness. Exactly. I just want to shove my fingers into

a ball repeatedly while talking to my guy friends about nothing that I actually want to talk about. When all I want to tell them is how scared I am. I mean, if you think about it, a bowling ball is just a platonic glory hole. Yeah. Wow. Facts.

But I mean, that's the thing. It's like I have I find myself doing this. I don't know, Jack, if it's the same way. Like, oh, men in general, this is not news. Like, we're not we don't have the same kind of communication skills to be like honest with each other. Like, I'm having find myself being like, like yo what's going on with you right now tell me that please yeah and it's it's weird because in the quarantine like i'm also kind of developing

better skills of like trying to actually communicate in that way as well because like with other guys yeah i mean i'm not like I was always I'm a very sensitive person. So I'm always talking my shit, though, too. But also like being aware of like creating the space to do that for like your friends, too, because, yeah, I can go on a Zoom call and I can rant for one hour straight with the homies about absolutely nothing. But at the same time, knowing their parents, their small business owners, they have dreams themselves. All of this shit is in flux now. I'm like, let's also allow each other to air anything and have that be a place. Because I feel like at times, there are two ways a Zoom call can go with men.

It's like, dude, COVID-19 doesn't exist. Or we're going to be a little more vulnerable and begin to be like, damn, man, it sucks. I had this shit at work. I don't have anybody to talk to. I miss this thing. And I think it's important that everybody pull it out. Use the awkward silences, like the PSA says. Just fucking talk.

For sure. Well, I do like that this has made socializing more mindful, I think, because you have to be like, oh, this is the person I will communicate with right now in this moment or whatever, versus just like, oh, I could just go to a bar and just feel like I'm being social, being around people and not saying anything. Run into whoever I run into versus being like, oh, I would like to talk to this person. And vaguely, this is what I would like to talk about. Talk to them about or whatever. Which is kind of, that is kind of nice, I think.

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What combination of words did you say? Mountain Dew Zero Baja Blast so randomly this is put that in cans yeah wait i didn't know that cans that this is got a little taco bell logo up in the corner no it does not oh my god that's amazing oh my god how long has that been on the market there was only a 12-pack at Ralph's when I was buying food coloring for my son's school project. There was a 12-pack. When I was buying food coloring for my Baja Blast. I needed to be more blue. The response to COVID that we needed.

Put the Baja Blast in cans. I'm wondering if this is like it's like Zoltar and Big and like I just found the one like mystical example of this or if they're actually like rolling this out I mean it's funny it shows up

on the Walmart website and there's even an option to add it to your wedding registry so you know I'll respect where it's due maybe I do want to get married holy shit Jack are you like rationing it out are you rationing it out like like my second one today wow okay i just the levels of the levels and vibes the name of this put me through because mountain dew in a can just like feels good anyway I did not know that Baja Blast in general was available in cans. Right.

Because I honestly don't even know if I want that information, because that is dangerous. Because right now it's been like, oh, that's my treat when I go through a Taco Bell. But then you add the word zero to the end of it. Yeah. This is a sugar-free Baja Blast. How does it stack up?

Does it taste like it? It tastes like it, yeah. The Mountain Dew Zero is very good. Diet Soda Hive. We have a problem. That's exciting. I'm so excited about that. This is the hope that I've needed to get me through the quarantine.

Okay, yeah. I mean, Men in Black was cool and all, but let's just kind of really get our heads around this Mountain Dew Baja Blast. I mean, based on I'm doing searches right now, it's popping up everywhere so in a way i feel like i'm in denial that something like i could be ignorant to the existence of this product so i'm like i don't know it's got to be then i'm like as i look i'm like no i just missed that i think they're doing it just with the zero to expose people to the mountain dew zero because

they are having like that was clearly a priority for them because they had that weird brian cranston ad where he plays jack nicholson from the shining uh but there's mountain dew zero for some reason the mom from blackish is in it and then uh but like maybe it wasn't catching on so they were like all right let's let's put a no-brainer great product out there that everybody's going to clamor for. That would be my guess. Again, this Baja Blast whole thing is a treasure trove of content because even when I search Mountain Dew Baja Blast, I can find reviews of the product just very narrowly of what it's like. This is one review I've read. Great flavor.

I first encountered this flavor of Mountain Dew in a slush at Taco Bell. That was the beginning of forever. It was a must that I try the regular soda, and it's a 10 for me. I would definitely recommend this soda for others to try. I absolutely love it. One more. Great taste, but still tastes a bit different than getting it from the fountain machine. Drink it cold from the bottle because it doesn't taste the same over a glass with ice.

Great color. Blend it with some ice for a yummy smoothie. I would definitely drink it. Smoothie is not the word. That's not a smoothie, sir. That's not a smoothie, sir. What if you put milk in that? I'm sorry, ma'am.

Samantha G. That was Samantha G from a review on Influenster.com. Samantha G is on notice. That's nasty. Dude, there's another thing. Being a Mountain Dew drinker for 12 to 13 years, I can say that Baja Blast is hands down the most enjoyable flavor I've experienced.

I'm always on the hunt to buy this stuff during the warmer months. To me, it's well worth the money if you like a fruity lime flavor. My only complaint is that they don't sell it here during the cold months. The cold months. This is, I think we've,

we're in a, we're dealing with a whole, another country, I feel like, of our Mountain Dew Baja Black. It's real, gang. It's real. I love that shit. Wow. I'm so excited.

I can't, I'm gonna go to a Ralph's for the first time in forever. This is exciting. It's wild. This is also not men in black related but I did notice like as I was driving to the store with my mask and gloves on

like there were just people walking all over the place I mean the weather in LA past couple days has been really nice but people were just it was like alright enough with this social distancing stuff the weather's too nice for that. So not great.

You got to keep doing it. You got to keep doing it. I honestly, just check out the Mountain Dew Baja Blast reviews. The people are so sincerely enthusiastic about it. I'm so excited. One just starts off, Baja Blast runs through my veins. It makes all of my stress and worries disappear. When it isn't in stores, my heart breaks. That one was me. Baja Blast runs through my veins. It makes all of my stress and worries disappear. When it isn't in stores, my heart breaks.

That one was me. That was you. Read the username on that. It says TheFamilyJOB. Yeah, there it is. Have we thought about injecting Mountain Dew Baja Blast Zero into our veins and seeing if that will cure the COVID? Rather than Lysol. Yeah, exactly.

We'll see what Trump says. God, the poor representative for Lysol. He didn't say you should drink it. He just said you should inject it. Clean out your lungs with it. Maybe it'll clean out your blood. It's germs. Oh my God.

Dr. Burke's face was so painful to see during that moment. I honestly, I lost five years of my life from cringing so hard. I do love the human reflex of when you're hearing something that's like impossible to mentally comprehend. You just begin blinking incessantly. Like, it was pretty awesome. All right, but this is all going to be old news by the time we get to Monday,

which is why we're talking Men in Black. Which is not old news. Little film. 1997 it came out. Just in time. I remember seeing this in theaters. I did not realize it was as old as it is. I was like, oh.

I know. So old. Yeah. So this is sort of near the beginning of Will Smith's career he had Bad Boys in 95 Independence Day in 96 and then this in 97 Enemy of the State in 98

and he would have had the Matrix next but instead he did Wild Wild West I think the thing that this has it's got like funny aliens that aren't like, yeah, they're scary, but they're also like cartoon characters. They're like, it almost helps you feel like, yeah, man, like aliens. And we live together because they're like, they smoke cigarettes and drink coffee and are toxic. And then there are other people.

Yeah, they're also pieces of shit. That's great. Yeah. And then there's like also like great gadgets. Like we don't have gadgets like we used to in movies like we did in the 90s. I know. That was one thing. I remember being a child and after seeing nearly every action film, there was some fucking gadget I wanted to have.

I'd be like, I need a Turtle Com or I need a Dick Tracy watch or I need a fucking neuralyzer. Yeah. This era is my favorite balance of like practical effects and computer effects where it feels like they're not totally because now like there's no practical effects ever but seeing like that guy's face open and having that

be a practical effect and then the little Babu freak inside you're like oh shit Babu freak it was Rick Baker who's a legend when it was rick baker who's like one who's a legend and when it comes to practical effects it's amazing but it reminds me like jurassic park everybody talked about the cg uh the cgi being like the thing that made that great but it was actually like a mixture of cgi and practical effects and like most of the things we think are cgi are actually practical effects

that they just like touched up with CGI and I feel like that's what they did here. That movie still looks so good. Yeah and this still looks pretty good. Yeah. There weren't that many times when I was like oh really this is fucking painful like they

even the fucking talking pug I was like I watched that scene like twice because I'm like yeah this looks fucking on point for now. Really good. For now even. I have a real thing with like that. I think we've even talked about it before. But I have a real thing with that kind of animal.

Like this. Okay. I don't. The pug is very funny. But I used to have nightmares about those dead-eyed animals that throw just jaw flaps. And they're like, and then it's just like a dog's 40-yard stare. It's still the scariest shit in the entire world to me. Yeah, especially those glassy puggies.

Yeah. You think dogs are dead-eyed? Okay, when paired with a human mouth, it's really scary. Yeah, that is. I don't know. Do you remember that movie Cats and Dogs? I think it came out in like 99. Yep.

I saw that movie theater. I saw that in theaters when I was a kid and we had to leave the theater. It's too scary. Is that the one that said like cats rule, dogs drool was like the subtitle? Yeah, and it was like all celebrity voice body horror. That's so fun. How do you feel about that Tumblr about sharks being replaced with human teeth? I like it.

Okay. Wait, that's no... There's an actual fish that looks like it has human teeth, and it really freaks me out. Alright, guys, let's go through Men in Black real quick, though. Let's just kind of... I did a running diary, and you guys can jump in anywhere. So are we going chronologically here?

Yeah, let's go Kron. Let's go Kron. Okay. All right, so first scene, they're illegal aliens. There's a lot of illegal alien jokes. There's like a human trafficker, but he's a fun human trafficker. He gets pulled over.

John Grease, who plays Uncle Rico in Napoleon Dynamite, is the driver. Oh, yeah. Oh, I didn't even know that. Hell yeah. I will pop in every now and then with trivia. And then the men in black are like, okay, you can go back to your human trafficking go go

ahead we just need to get this alien dude i like that border patrol is just as stupid uh in 1997 as it is now yeah well back then it was it was it reminds us of a pre-ice world when it just used to be ins and so ins are the guys who are the you know rowdy cowboy slack jaw yokel cowboys are trying to portray them as but it was it's interesting to see them like in that scene right clearly when tommy lee jones pulls up with his old man partner they're like he has like a very humane approach to the migrants that he's like he's like yeah get the fuck out he's like hey how you doing all right you good welcome to america but then it gets really dark if you just look at it like very on its surface it's like these guys came were nice to this group but then singled out one guy and took him into the dark of the desert night by themselves and like what is that what

message was that even sending the people who were like hey let us go but he took that one guy who was non-verbal the whole time yeah yeah yeah yeah a lot of mixed mixed messages in that scene yeah yeah also that alien when tommy lee jones is like let me get a look at this guy he cuts the dude's poncho open and it's just an alien holding a rod with a head on it i'm like my man you got all this technology to put this fucking human head on a stick but your other plan is okay just drape the poncho on me hold the stick and then i will open doors and shit somehow again i i found myself watching this film and going through all the weird holes of the alien logic i'm glad you're watching this movie very critically it was good yeah all right so this is my big question. We're then introduced to Will Smith at mid chase. He's chasing a perp down by on foot.

He's in like orange pants that like, are they part of an intentional outfit? Was he undercover as a clown or like a prison inmate? Like, it seems like there's going to be a reason that he's wearing that, but then there's not. He's just like, that was his outfit. That's his outfit.

I mean, he's just a plain clothes DT. Yeah. You know? It's 1997. He's just dressing it up. Okay. All right. Is the jacket that's tied around his waist

part of the pants, or is it like half a jumpsuit? Is this question about what role Will Smith plays within the New York Police Department, his uniform, or the actual mechanics of the outfit he's wearing? The mechanics of the outfit? Oh, so he has a jumpsuit? So he has like big orange pants. Yeah.

But then he has a matching orange shirt tied around his waist. Yeah. So he just had the nice track suit. Yeah, take it easy, Tim Gunn. All right. It wasn't working for you. It just feels very chunky and not well thought out.

It does. I love the suits, but Will Smith's plain clothes in this movie are very underrated. I always forget how good. It's a look. Yeah. He still manages to wear three or four amazing outfits before you get to the suit. I realized that there were moments in this, as I watched it, I realized how many things

I actually modeled for myself from this film. Really? I realized how many things I actually modeled for myself from this film. I have the, I had the running shoes that Will Smith is wearing with that outfit, the outfit in question that Jack is talking about. They're, they're running shoes from the 90s called the Air Max Triax. I had them shits. Cause I remember seeing Will Smith wear them.

I also wore them. I also, he also wears the Reebok Shack Gnosis basketball sneaker in a later scene when he first gets to the headquarters. Another shoe I tried to buy, they did not have in my size, but that was also due to Will Smith. One other moment, I also wanted to drive a Ford LTD like the car they drove. I would say how much I want to drive a Ford LTD

up until maybe about 15 when I realized that that's just not. Anyway, I realized how much consumer shit this shit this film did to me so yeah I will I will I will cape for the outfits um yeah his second outfit the one that's like yellow and

like has like a bright yellow codpiece stripe down the middle looks like a store-bought children's Bumblebee Transformers Halloween costume, like the body part of it. It's pretty cool. I thought he was wearing a Nietzsche from the late 90s is what I saw in that piece.

But he's also, he didn't even mention his really dope outfit. That's the outfit he wears when he comes back, when he realizes he wants to join, when he goes in for the audition that's my favorite one he has the fantastic baggy jeans with the New York Timberlands on that shimmery red

like kind of in between looks like it's cut like a denim jacket but it's shimmery but like also a shirt I'll rock that shit now hell yeah there's a great example of a trope that i feel like was huge in 90s movies where they cut into a scene of tommy lee jones and will smith and he's like and i said

honey why are you eating my popcorn and then like he starts laughing really hard it's a good laugh yeah a tommy Jones' laugh is good. Yeah, because it's got that emphysema-like tinge to it. Yeah, absolutely. It's heezy-weezy a little bit. You're like, oh, that laugh lived through Nam. Holy shit.

He's actually putting himself at risk enjoying himself that much. Yeah, absolutely. That laugh was never young. That trope just was used constantly the whole like cut in and like hear the punch line to the joke like the rectum damn near killed him i think in black sheep dumb and dumber oh is that black sheep black sheep yeah yeah yeah and then i feel like it has it shouldn't be used otherwise i did not like it in this part. Another bit of trivia. This was a line my friend group, when we saw this as 12, 13-year-olds,

we latched onto constantly. We'd always go, honey, this one's eating my popcorn. That's the line. It turns out that actual punchline, I think it's in a few films, actually. People were pointing out that it was almost a trope. It's been in a Daredevil issue. It was in it's in a few films actually like in people were pointing out that it was like almost a trope like it's been in a daredevil issue it was in another film in the 60s that that specific honey this one's eating my popcorn and i was like what the fuck is the setup and the setup is fucking gross like it's not oh really yo okay do you want me to this is what i

found when i was like what is the setup for the honey? This one's eating my popcorn one. This is what the joke is. So a man and a woman decide to take a movie in one night. And it just so happens that on that same night, a farmer has decided to sneak in one of his roosters from his farm. After getting their snacks, the couple head into the darkened auditorium, which is nearly full. There are only two seats left, and they happen to be next to the farmer and the rooster, which he has concealed in his pants. Midway through the movie, the rooster pokes his head out of the farmer's zipper and begins to peck and eat the woman's popcorn.

She notices and nudges her husband, saying, Honey, look at what this guy's cock is doing. Her husband replies, I don't pay it no mind. If you've seen one, you've seen them all. So she looks over at her husband and says, Yeah, but honey, this one's eating my popcorn. Uh-huh. No. Imagine how long it took to write that joke now this is what i suspect i have a feeling that there might not

actually be a real setup and this was someone doing their darndest reverse engineering it yeah it's a reverse engineer for sure my new favorite thing when you hear like a long-winded stupid ass joke like that is to picture that scene from little women where sersha ronan is writing by candlelight for five days and then by this page 601 you say honey this one's eating my popcorn there's the part the scene where tommy lee jones like explains everything to him and he's like humans for the most part don't have a clue and they don't want one and it's them like sitting on a bench looking at the twin towers in 1997, which is weird. Impression moment. What do they know?

And then there's a couple ominous Twin Tower scenes for sure. I love how they use this to use aliens as a cultural touching point to spin off a ton of other bits, like what happened to Elvis, like what the origin of liposuction is, even though Tommy Lee Jones says liposuction.

And I'm always like, I was raised hearing lipo. To this day, it still bothers me hearing him say liposuction. And it probably is right, but whatever. And then I was also looking, I took a second to try and take stock when they said,

we're actually watching all the aliens around the world. Oh, yeah. And the people that are on there. Sylvester Stallone's in there, right? Yeah, Sylvester Stallone. Newt Gingrich. Isaac Mizrahi, Danny DeVito, Al Roker, Barry Sonnenfeld, Dionne Warwick, Anthony Robbins, George Lucas, Spielberg, and Chloe Sonnenfeld, Barry's daughter.

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And don't worry, we promise to avoid any black holes. Most of the time. And we're back. I always forget that there is a woman in this movie yeah yeah linda fiorentino yeah she is very i like it's it's i it's she could be so easily removed from the story and nothing would change no well you wouldn't get those gratuitous shots of her like hanging out of the tree with her skirt being hiked up uh i know there's such a long time i like that i like that her character is there for 15 minutes like oh i'm in this tree branch she does not try to extract herself she does not scream she's just there like yeah she gets it she yeah she's chill she's not like the other girls

she's not going to try to liberate herself from a tree they're a cool girl i'm wearing heels in a tree that an alien bug threw me into i love queens yeah so the sexual chemistry with the like mortician the attempt to have like a sexual chemistry between her and will Smith is weird. And then like they, the next woman we see is Tommy Lee Jones looking at like the woman he loves and she's just like a woman gardening outside of a house and then like looking off into the middle distance. Like it's a plexor isis medication. It's like,

so like it's just such stock footage. It's like, wow, you guys really don't think about women ever at all. No, to your point, Jamie, I haven't seen this film in maybe 15 years at least. Oh, wow.

I was almost certain that Linda Fiorentino's character came in much sooner than like with 30 minutes left in the film. I was like, what the? Yeah, she's just barely in it. And there's not even like a female alien at any point. Like they, it's such an easy way just to like add one in is just to have like one of the exposition aliens be a woman.

Nah, only men. Aliens are all men. Come on, dude. I like that they make her an agent at the end, but then don't they kind of undo that in the next movie where they're like, actually, Tommy Lee Jones is back. I forget what happens in the next one. The whole logic of how she went from working at the city morgue

to then being like, well, she did shoot the bug in the back. being like working at the city morgue to then being like well she did shoot the bug in the back i guess we'll like previously this was only open to like the best of the best of the best sir with honors yeah but then it's like yeah whatever she was pretty chill yeah they keep they pick will smith because he has that chance encounter with an alien when he like runs him down and then they pick her because she has a chance encounter because the cat happened to follow the body to the morgue, which, by the way, has a front desk and a bell. They're getting a lot of walk-ins at the morgue or something. With David Cross running it.

David Cross gives a truly great performance. I was like, oh my God, look how young he is here. The moment when he, actually great acting when he brings up the bug spray from behind the counter and it's clearly pissing Edgar off. And he does this crazy quivering lip thing. Be like,

are you gonna kill me? And I was like, damn, Cross, you got fucking range, huh? Yeah. I don't give Alvin and the Chipmunks just anybody. I also really like, I also really like that

scene because Agent K at that point like Will Smith is in like not getting the hint. He thinks that she's talking she wants to show him her vagina I think is what we're meant to think there.

It makes no human sense. I need to show you something. I hadn't seen this. We did this on the Bexel cast, but like three years ago, and I was like, oh, right. Like there's a lot of weird shit. But I love this part

because Tommy Lee Jones' character just casually pulls out a cigarette because he's just bored and there's nothing for him to do. It just reminds me of the part in Ghostbusters where suddenly Dan Aykroyd has a cigarette dangling out of his lips. It's just such a different era

when smoking was something that characters would do. It wasn't like they were a smoker it was just something you did when you were standing around in a building yeah hey our friends at philip morris paid good money for that uh advertising let's get it in there smoke is just a weird inexplicable cigarette there's another thing with again uh alien logical when the two archilians are meeting up at the pierogi restaurant, Rosenberg, the jeweler, he meets up with the other dude who's like the big lurch-looking guy.

They're just speaking in their mother alien tongue in public? Yeah, bro. It's New York. Nobody's going to notice. I like languages, and I'm like, I never heard this. What's this? What's going on over here? Who are these guys?

What's going on here? Again, this is something I thought of. That's because like, I never heard this. What's this? What's going on over here? Who are these guys? What's going on here? Again, this is something I thought of. That's because we live in LA. In New York, you don't listen to anybody's other table. They could be speaking some gobble goo over there. It's their business. I got a subway ride to catch. Come on.

I honestly, I put microwave pierogies on my grocery list after seeing that scene. You're like, oh, damn. They look so good. I would love real pierogies, but I'll take microwave pierogies from vaughn yeah always another thing i never i didn't have pierogies for the first time until i went to toronto for our live show back in february of this year and i have been lusting after the pierogi because of this film never having the opportunity to have it until i had real i real Polish pierogies like 10 years ago, and I think about it all the fucking time. Really?

Yeah. So good. They're just, I don't know. They're so fucking good. That'd be a good quarantine project. Like, learn to make some good-ass pierogies at home. Pierogies? Yeah.

I would imagine it's pretty, once you get the hang of it, you got to dial in those flavors. It's something else. Oh, it's so good. Is there, again, I love that they call the tabloids they respect the power of the boy I love that yeah bring back Floyd watch I think that's like one of three things that I

like remembered from this movie I thought that was so cool that I used to I used to I used to pay attention you're like yes yeah yeah me too. Yeah, after this, I was like, that's where the truth is. That's when I started smoking after this. Good enough for age.

And I just want a busted old Ford sedan from the early 80s. Exactly. I just love being in seventh grade, just chain smoking bubblegum cigarettes, read about Bat Boy. It just felt good. I was in this movie. It was great. With a pair of wax lips on. Re-watching,

I'm always like, what? I'm like, I just want to know where Tommy Lee Jones was at on understanding computers when this movie was shot. Oh,

the way that he types. You can feel the emotion as he's typing on that keyboard. Yeah. he's really acting through his fingertips in that scene that just like resigned

clickety-clack, click-clack, click-clack. You see him on the keyboard and you're like, yeah, that's an Academy Award winner. Yeah. You can feel it through his keystrokes.

You want to see how an Academy Award winner types? Yeah. Good baby. Just the resignation when he taps her away. It's heartbreaking. When he's like

looking at that woman on a Nest heartbreaking. There are a couple of great moments of technological them not knowing how technology works. There was the pretty soon we're going to be using even smaller CDs than the CDs we have now.

Which is true. You ever have those little half guys? Yeah, like little singles. Yeah, they were popular in Asia for sure. Oh, were they? Oh, yeah. In my middle school, that was like a mixtape thing. If you gave the little half CD to someone,

you could fit like five songs on it. Good shit. There you go. Yeah. The thing that I appreciate about the film on one level is like if you want to you can see that there is the the whole film is sandwiched between these these images to show you that everything that happens on this planet means fuck all to anything yeah and yeah so stop treating yourself fucking seriously you moron the first the first scene is like this cool dragonfly animation.

You're like, oh, cool. Whoa, it's dodging the fucking trucks. Then splat. Fuck you. That shit, the version of you getting hit by a car as a dragonfly, the human equivalent happens all the time. And then at the very end of the film, cut to some fucking alien is playing marbles with our goddamn galaxy.

Yeah. But I'm important. But I'm important. Meanwhile, we're the toy of something else. I thought it's very subtle, but as I was watching it now, I was like, oh man, life is so impermanent and meaningless.

Like when you really take in, when you pull it, like bring the full context of the universe into it. Oh yeah, I learned all my nihilism from Men in Black. That's why you got that dragonfly tattoo on your eye. Like on your eyelid. Exactly. It's right there so I can remember his splat

any day. The fact that they're so casual about the world being about to end kind of filled me with dread. I remember when I was a kid I was like, shouldn't they be taking it serious on this watch i found it very comforting i was like oh you know what you

know what that's true we should just be more chill about it it's gonna happen we're just marbles in some fucking sick aliens game yeah fuck it exactly except the Except the alien that were all marbles inside of looks like the computer animation for like a educational video game from the early 90s. Yeah, that was probably like, sadly, the worst CG of the entire film was that last part. By a lot. That like weird three finger hand

that like lifted up the marble is like, yo, you could have rendered that a little bit more. Get some texture on that, bro. Please. Can I get some texture on my aliens? Please. Can I get texture on my alien hand, please? Another fun fact,

Vern Troyer is also in this film playing the role of Alien's son. I went through all the credits, and I was like, hey, look at you over there. I think it's when all those aliens were in line at the office. He played a tiny one. Vincent D'Onofrio's performance as the

alien inhabiting a human body for the first time and it doesn't fit them is so good. Should have been nominated. We haven't talked about how... I mean, everybody. Rip Torn. We haven't talked about how... Oh, yeah. I mean, everybody. Like, let's...

Rip Torn, rest in peace. Yeah. Rest in rip. I thought he was fantastic. Rip rip. Intergalactic Kegger. I, like, say that in my head, like, once a week. Intergalactic Kegger.

Time for Intergalactic Kegger. The two things in this movie, like, when I hear Men in Black, Intergalactic Kegger and the wife saying, uh, Yeager's suit. Like that. I would just hear men in black intergalactic kegger and uh the the wife saying uh yeager suit like that i would just go yeah that one uh great performance by siobhan fallon hogan who's the actress who plays beatrice okay seminal line when she says egger your skin is hanging off your bones that's fucking to this day i'll get that shit tatted although ed although what's sad, though, is our first glimpse of a male-female relationship is this abusive marriage

where he's berating her about how useless she is. And then he gets his Charlton Heston style. But it was very interesting to, again, re-watch it like this. It is very disdainful of just general humans. It's just like everyone's real dumb and like, huh, Edgar, what's going on? Everyone who's not a man in black is kind of a dipshit. I do like the end of the Beatrice scene

where Will Smith is like, no, you got to go get a new outfit, redecorate your house. This guy was trash. You're like, yeah. That's good. Hell yeah. I wish that they had tried

to make her an agent, actually. That's what I would like to have seen. She was more relevant to the plot than Laurel. Yeah. Well, and then she would have just been like, because she was so nonplussed by everything. She actually probably has the right temperament. She's like, I've seen some shit. Yeah, show me an then she would have just been like, because she was so nonplussed by everything. She actually probably has the right temperament.

She's like, I've seen some shit. Yeah, show me an alien. That's fine. I think she'd be a great Men in Black. And dealing with Edgar's dumb ass. There are some great physical comedy bits, and then one of them is from Vincent D'Onofrio when he's like walking through the streets

and his whole shit's fucked up because he's inhabiting a rotting corpse. There's one where he like gets in some guy's way and he gives him like this like one moment please finger that to this day again kills me every time i see it and also the test taking scene another great bit of physical comedy sequence that test taking scene i like is kind of a weird zen thing for me in my life like if I'm like overwhelmed in a situation where I don't know how to like solve a problem I'll be like wait is there a table

that should be pulling towards me right now it straight is like a thing that I will be like is there something that I am not seeing right now I like it's become a part of my life philosophy yeah did a great thing for mid-century modern Scandinavian furniture.

Absolutely. A lot of the finishes I didn't notice. That scene really allows Will Smith. First of all, he looks great. As you mentioned, his outfit is dope. And second of all, it's just like him going off of that Carlton-ass West Point grad is like so perfect. It just really lets

Will Smith eat. Sir. eat sir even fucking up the salute just to fucking fuck with him more yeah one thing is again another weird thing was bugging me as an adult and as i deal with org charts and things like this when tommy lee jones is reducing his identity to jay he's just merely going backspace backspace backspace leaving it to j and then it suddenly it's like oh like new identity confirmed j and it literally said new identity j and i'm like there's only if everybody in this fucking place basically has like a one letter name this is the only fucking j in the place you only have however many people in this building yeah they could only be 26 yeah men in black at a time unless you're like the the right parentheses

is your name like to expand it to the whole right at a certain point i'm just weird yeah because they i think they do delete the j and then like it, the whole name, I was just, I thought it was going to just go to J and then that would be his name. But they just like cut. And then there's a giant J. It was also weird that they like, rather than just, you know,

deleting the files, they like had to erase his footprints as a baby. And it's just like, yeah, the moments they choose to be thorough versus not and this movie is all over the place where sometimes they're just very much like i don't know and then other times they go to like that like they'll go in a two minute sequence to do what it's weird right yeah also i love the assumption that i'm like i was like how many

women did will smith just ghost when he did this right i was thinking that I'm like, I was like, how many women did Will Smith just ghost when he did this? Right. I was thinking that. I was like, were you, because you like seem like you were probably like had, were in several relationships. Did you have parents? The implication is that he's like an orphan with no siblings or family that would care about him. Even though he's third of his name. Yeah.

Third of his name. Third of his name, orphan who like even, yeah., you're like, this guy probably has a social life. He doesn't seem, and it's weird because to be a Men in Black, you'd have to be some, like, curmudgeon, isolated lone wolf type figure. But this guy's like, this guy doesn't fit that. But, I mean, hey, he's got the looks. He's got the charm. Well, have you guys seen Men in Black 3? Do you know how they complete the circle?

No. No. Should we watch that? Nah, probably not. Men in Black 3 is good. You guys should check it out. But there's an origin story that's actually really sweet and heartbreaking. Tommy Lee Jones is not just meeting Agent J for the first time in this movie.

He's just pretending to. They go way back. Oh, that's interesting. Very cute. That warms my heart. I don't like that. Well, I'm skipping that one. I'm going straight to Men in Black International.

Something I can sink my teeth into. Men in Black 3 is an underrated third film. I think people have given up. That one came out like 10 years ago right that was like kind of way after and then Hemsworth is the one that just came out last year International yeah which people were like I remember searching

just to like see what kind of any interesting think pieces about Men in Black there were but when I searched Men in Black one of the first things that came up was like Men in Black International Review, but when I searched Men in Black, one of the first things that came up was like, Men in Black International Review. I wish I could neuralize myself. And I was like, oh boy. There it is.

I knew someone who worked on that movie. It was just like, it was the most unhappy time of his life. That's a bummer. And that someone is Hemsworth right Chris Hemsworth or whatever I hate to see that because Tommy Lee Jones

one of my birthday twins also we have the same birthday and Al Gore's roommate at Harvard ties it all together also Will Smith at the end when we see him as like his future agent he's dressed like Neo from the Matrix

yeah that little that standing collar I was like really they had to show it's like nah he's now he's top dog baby he can take liberties with the uniform and the other the woman agent looks like like they did such a bad job of like styling her i don't know not to be a bitch but the jacket was ill-fitting i will say that yeah there could

have been a bit more tailoring with that jacket the buttons looked strained also his suit at the end controversial opinion maybe was not good no it was not it was it's a bad suit he's got a bad suit it's bad glasses the original look is better dude what are you doing yeah yeah i agree back when yeah the that standing collar or mandarin collar as they would call it at a prom shop they're like you know the mandarin collar is really popular now it was just well used to call it the oriental collar the i mean granted it did come from like a chinese era fashion but like yeah that that whole look it it felt i think felt right for 97 because they're like yo that collar's not a collar but it is you know yeah not um all right well brandy it's been a pleasure talking men in black with you where can people

find you follow you uh yeah you can find me on uh twitter instagram at brand dazzle b-r-a-n-d-a-z-z-l-e um i've got a podcast called lady to lady with barbara gray and tess barker it's real real real fun time uh and then um whenever I can, I do tour quite a bit. So if you are on bands in town, you can follow me on there at Brandy Posey for whenever I come to your town in 2021 because it's not happening this year.

Not with that attitude. Well, I don't trust anyone. Reopen the comedy clubs. I'm just going to wear my T-Rex costume. That's my new thing. Wear that on stage, everywhere. Yeah, spit on me.

I don't care. Do you ever work bowling alleys? Do you ever do? I used to run a show at a bowling alley. I honestly, I was like, yeah, I've done bowling alley shows. Don't knock them. They're fun. Yeah.

That makes sense. What if the next logical extension is those essential businesses that do open like other communities that need open spaces to also it's like, yeah, dude, we're starting to do a lot of like open mics at this hair salon at this nail salon. It's pretty cool. And it works for everyone. It's coming. It's all coming. And then also real quick on my website, I have cassettes and sticker and sticker uh pin packs and stuff for sale um if you guys want to buy those because i'm not on the road i would appreciate it oh support yeah and is there

a tweet or some other active social media you've been enjoying uh yeah um i there's a tweet it's a thread uh by joseph longo so joseph l-o-n-g-o and then underscore uh it's a thread by Joseph Longo. So Joseph, L-O-N-G-O, and then underscore. It's a thread of photos of RuPaul as fracking rigs. So it's different fracking rigs that are colored the same as some of RuPaul's most iconic outfits and two of them put to get next to each other. And it makes me laugh because Ru is fabulous, but also problematic. So yeah, I enjoyed that quite a bit. Jamie, where can people find you?

What's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me online at jamieloftishelp or Instagram jamiechristsuperstar and tweets I've been enjoying. I'm just going to recommend the Chris Crofton Poetry Corner. It's really been giving me a lot. It's made me laugh and it's made me think.

And it used to just be on Thursdays but now Chris Crofton's just churning out poems by request all day. I'll read one about Pilates that he released truly five minutes ago. Pilates. One time I walked into a store

that appeared to say plates on it, hoping to buy plates. But when I went in, a bunch of people in leotards gave me major attitude. So Chris Crofton, that's at the Crofton show. Oh yeah.

Miles, where can people find you and what's the tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, Miles of Gray. Also, my other podcast for 20 Day Fiance talking about 90 Day Fiance. But hi, that's the hook of that show. It's amazing. Also, check out.

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a video from at Clarencece house which is basically the official account of prince charles and camilla on twitter and there's this video that the account posted that was them coming out i'm just going to give you what the tweet says but just watch this video because it is uncomfortable this is the video of them coming out but the tweet was saying, when my parents come backstage after I totally fucking bombed. Oh, yes. I saw this tweet.

It's the most awkward. So the video is just Camilla and Prince Charles coming out of a door and clearly not being on the same page as to what the choreography was for this video. And they just start awkwardly clapping. And to anyone who's seen parents try and lie and encourage you, even though it's a lie, this is exactly what was going on. That was my whole first five years of comedy, yeah.

But at least you were self-aware enough to go, I did that. That was... I did that. That was... I did that. SB Nation tweeted, what does Cardinals coach Cliff Kingsbury look like he does for a living? He has this, like, really weird modernist house. And it's, like, a picture of him with, like, two flat-screen TVs. And Bill Hanstock

replied, cocaine. And then Olivia Dade tweeted, REM had indicated I would feel better at this particular juncture in world history. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us

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This track is called Que No Salga La Luna. And it's, man, her voice, if you're not up on Rosalia, she's had like huge hits with like J Balvin and other people. But her solo stuff is great because she's really infusing flamenco vocal styles and guitar with like more pop stuff and it's really really interesting music so check out this song it's from her album that came out two years ago but check this one out all right well we are going to ride out on that we will be back this afternoon to tell you what's trending and we'll talk to you then bye Bye Bye Kay hasn't heard from her sister in seven years.

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