The Daily Zeitgeist - The Department of GovernTrend Efficiency 11/13: Jumpshot Live, James Bond, 4B Movement, Trump's Cabinet

Episode Date: November 13, 2024

In this edition of The DeparTrend of Government Efficiency, Jack and Miles discuss the incipient basketball-focused Top Golf-esque alternative: Jumpshot Live, how "whiteness is not a given" for the ne...w James Bond, the 4B movement spreading to the U.S., more on Trump's cabinet appointments and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 My name is Brandon Kyle Goodman. I'm a black, gay, non-binary author, TV writer, actor, and I'm messy. But not in the way you think. Messy as in I'm human and flawed. I'm on a mission to destroy shame around sex. And the only way to do that is to talk about sex. So that's what we'll do on my brand new podcast, Tell Me Something Messy. Join me on Tell Me Something Messy with brand new episodes every Thursday on the
Starting point is 00:00:29 iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Hello, the internet and welcome to this episode of the Department of Govertrend Efficiency, courtesy of Vanadium Silver. Yeah, we kept the acronym intact, which is cool. That's what's cool, is doing a government agency to like spell out a product is fun. Yeah. Hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:04 That's what I like about this new administration. It's gonna be real easy to understand everything. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what I like about this new administration is going to be real easy to understand everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No more wonky. If they made like the EPA spell out like tide, because it's like we're cleaning things up, you know, like just dial soap. Yeah. Yeah. What? Palm olive. You can buy naming rights to government agencies. Yeah. Yeah. Like their sports arenas and sell merch anyways
Starting point is 00:01:27 Well, we'll talk a little bit more about that on tomorrow's full episode My name is Jack O'Brien that over there is miles gray Gray And these are some of the stories that are trending right now We just found out about, uh, a new business opportunity that we just got to get you guys in on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:51 There's a basketball version of top golf for some coming. Yeah. Called jump shot live. And I, it, I, I'm just having so much trouble understanding, like just so people understand, this is how they describe it from their own press release. It says, the concept of a technologically superior basketball experience coupled with chef driven dining and craft cocktails is one of the, with a massive potential audience, both in the United States and abroad.
Starting point is 00:02:21 They go on to say 28 million Americans age six and up play basketball. Okay, so can the six and up partake in your craft cocktails too, or that's just a different offering. Then they say their locations are designed to span 50,000 square feet, though some venues may vary in size, with 50 gaming bays each,
Starting point is 00:02:38 and it'll accommodate up to six people, and it'll be all kinds of shit with LED screens, the backboards move, so you can shoot anywhere on the court. And there's like a bunch of athletes involved. I think as people have pointed out, specifically Dragonfly Jones, cause it was his tweet that Evan saw this like weird mockup
Starting point is 00:02:56 of a video, was that basketball is not a fun sport in terms of like, you can go casually. Been like, hey man, let's just go have some drinks and some fucking you know cheese curds down at jump shot live right now that'll be fine every time i've been around my friends near a basketball hoop it turns into some hyper competitive shit like it just does even if you're just playing too much riding on that shit. Yeah, it's and whereas golf as Dragonfly was pointing out is like it's it's a humbling sport like sure some people are good But most people go being like look we're all fucking trash
Starting point is 00:03:34 Maybe we can all have fun swinging a club around and not knowing what the fuck is going on Yeah, and also like the drinking and snacking is built into golf like that's a big part of golfing. It's like when you're playing golf, you're often drinking and there's like a hot dog cart. There's not a hot dog cart on like basketball courts for people to grab a couple hot dogs and a beer while they're playing. Maybe there should be, but that's just not the way the sport evolved.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I also just think too, like Americans, a lot of people probably have some form of like old school ground, playground stress from being a kid having to play basketball and not being good and just being stressed out like at PE. Be like, fuck, we're having to play basketball. And then I fucking have to. Oh, man. I mean, like one of the most stressful experiences for me as a, as a, as a youth was fucking trying out for basketball my freshman year of high school. And like, I don't know about this. I don't know about this.
Starting point is 00:04:31 I mean, so it's being brought to you by the people who do top golf, which, um, tangentially, I think there's people like, as I read more, the COO is the guy who had been developing real estate for places like Topgolf. So it's people that definitely understand the sports entertainment. The upscale dining sports play. And I will say I have gone to Topgolf with my kids and my nephew and there is certainly an audience of people, there's certainly a consumer base for people hanging out with their kids while enjoying craft cocktails that seems to be there and burgeoning hell even at 11 in the
Starting point is 00:05:11 morning. I will say that the logical thing, like if this were designed to actually be a thing that they wanted to succeed is like, you would just add five gaming stations aka basketball who places like little basketball hoop areas gaming guys yeah to yeah gaming base to a top golf and see if anybody like gave a shit enough to try it yeah because of the economy and the world that we live in. That's not what they're not actually like trying to. Would be my guess. Like, it feels like in the same way as like crypto and NFPs and like all that shit.
Starting point is 00:05:55 The thing that they're trying to do is like the whole like big launch and like the hype around the launch is the product, you know, like the deck is the product. They like they're in the deck that like they've put out for this, which is just like, you know, a slideshow. They have like a computer generated like drone fly through of the big dining room area. And it's just, yeah, it's like trying to get as many investors on board before they realize it's a bad idea. So you don't do the thing that would actually tell you it was a bad idea first because that would just be too much useful information.
Starting point is 00:06:37 But this does feel like the perfect business idea for right before a potential huge recession. Yeah, yeah. It feels like that is what we are fueled by right now. Holy shit, dude. I went all in on that fucking jump shot place in 2024, man. Yeah. Fuck. But yeah, we'll see, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:06:54 I know for me, nah, nah, nah. You made the really good point. Yeah, you made the really good point that you can't hit a golf ball in your neighborhood. Unless you live in one of these huge, you know, places where they have huge tracts of land. Most urban dwellers know you can walk 100 feet in most directions and find a driveway or, you know, a little bit longer
Starting point is 00:07:18 and find a park with a basketball hoop. But that park and that basketball hoop will not be next to fogged glass with jump shot live written on it. And that's the real opportunity that we're presenting people with here. Yeah. Anyways, other big news to for people to get excited and then disappointed about the James Bond producers, Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson have said that they're going to cast a new James Bond and Whiteness is not a given
Starting point is 00:07:53 Jesus Christ, it will be a man likely in his 30s and Drum roll, please Whiteness is not a given. What a fucking phrase. Yeah. Uh, and whiteness is not a given, although we may we may. It may be a preference. It may be a preference. It's not a given.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Preferential not a lot. Not going to. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see. I don't know who wants to even touch this role anymore. But I mean, because there was we had so much fun being like, it could be a fucking not white guy or man. And then, you know, you have all these people like James Bond can only be a white guy. Yeah. Yeah. It just, Alba said the response when his name was floated made the whole thing quote disgusting
Starting point is 00:08:44 and off putting as a result Yeah, yeah, so maybe just like I mean again I get like for a studio They're like it just makes money man, and it's yeah, but you know what you can easily come up with a new thing I have just want to say you can always come up with a new thing. What about that guy Jim from the office? Oh my fucking god, dude you oh no no no no no is he too sexy for it? I don't know. Find out on tomorrow's episode. Oh no is it too sexy? The Antonio Banderas how do you say show. All right let's take a quick break we'll come back.
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Starting point is 00:10:41 And we're back. We're back. We're back. And there's been a surge in research into the South Korean movement, the 4B movement. In the hours after the election, there was a surge, like a bunch of people searching. Now it's becoming a more formalized thing. This is an informal South Korean feminist movement that basically agrees among women to not have sex, not have children, not marry men in response to the steady spread and, you know, overpowering growth of power of misogyny and popular and political culture. It started in South Korea in the 2010s, gained a lot of strength after a horrifying crime in which an incel murdered a 23-year-old woman in a public bathroom in
Starting point is 00:11:33 the Gangnam district of Seoul. And in 2022, they had their own kind of Trump-like figure sweep to power on the back of a young male swing vote and so it's growing there. It's not like a super well-defined movement like a one of the people who's kind of heavily involved calls it more of an individualized resistance rather than like a highly organized movement but I understand why it's getting a lot of attention from people at this moment. And also I feel like the conservative media ecosystem is gonna fucking eat this shit up.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Yeah, no, yeah. It's inspired some pretty heinous responses, I'd say. Yeah, and like there was an article in Rolling Stone where they were talking to some South Korean women who were just like asking, like, they're like, oh, what do you think? Like, well, to see it spread. And they're like, they're heartened to see that, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:32 like the people are sort of understanding, you know, what kind of power they can wield. One said, quote, I also share the sentiment and I'm very glad that so many women are deciding to embark on a journey that will lead them to freedom that they could not have imagined. And you know, they're saying like, it's not, they're not saying it's not merely just like sort of a complete saying like men are banned forever, but to truly look inward to what
Starting point is 00:12:54 your values are and understanding how you want that reflected back to you and a partner. But yeah, for like the right wing crowd, they're just the responses just from like, you know, you can already, you can already imagine how right wing men are responding to people saying that like they will exercise agency over their bodies. So yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So speaking of Trump, uh, his cabinet appointments seem to be pulling from just like his friends, just like a,
Starting point is 00:13:24 a group of people who have been in headlines with him in the past two months. Like it's like Matt Gaetz as Attorney General, Kristi Noem for the Department of Homeland Security, a Fox News host as, is it Secretary of Defense? Yeah, Pete Hegseth is secretary of defense. The guy who we've talked about before who's like, I don't wash my hands like ever.
Starting point is 00:13:49 Yeah. Like why? Why do I have to? Doesn't even matter. He's, I mean, historically the most fucking unqualified person for that. Like people, even like Republican senators, like what the fuck, dude dude like the entire war machine apparatus But again when you couple that with things like they're trying to create a way to purge generals to sort of you know
Starting point is 00:14:13 Control the military just full stop in line with their own ideology This makes sense because most of these appointments you're like what the fuck like Tulsi Gabbard as like DNI these are all people who have been so loyal to Donald Trump they are being repaid with these positions but I don't think for a second that they're being actually picked because he's like the best secretary of defense is Pete Hegseth it's that I need husks of people in these positions that seem like they have the agency and decision-making power of a cabinet position, but really they're completely willing to just be
Starting point is 00:14:51 to say like, I have this title. Yeah, yeah, whatever Trump wants. That's really what's happening. Because yeah, I mean like- It's not even the pretense of like competence or meritocracy now. No. Because like the first administration, the bar was like,
Starting point is 00:15:04 you can't have said something bad about me. Right. And now it's, you have to have said such unaccountably like good things about me out of line with reality that it made headlines like that. That seems to be where we're at, which is like, you know, a smaller and smaller group. Yeah, yeah, truly. Well, you have a law degree, right? So you can be attorney general, I feel like.
Starting point is 00:15:33 But it was mostly like I was doing like car accidents and stuff. And like, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll do it. I mean, I have my own cases that I'm trying to avoid. So, yeah, it would be great if I could run the Department of Justice. And I mean, like, you know, you hear it at every level. People at these departments who are completely like, I we have no idea what kind of like retribution we're going to face, how how fucking intense
Starting point is 00:15:56 these purges are going to be. But a lot of people are saying like, it looks like there's, yeah, a lot of a lot of loyalists being put in. And you see people be like, well, at least they're like an idiot. So like, I'd rather have an idiot in there than like some like true, like, you know, mega brained evil person. But again, I think I think the point here is just to have these people there because they're not like they have their own ideas of what they want to do with these.
Starting point is 00:16:22 And they can't just put like, you know, the people from the heritage foundation in these positions. They're just going to be like, yeah, you'll do that. And then we'll just tell you what to do. Yeah. Just fucking frightening. And then of course we have RFK Jr. with all the, has he officially been named? No, not yet. One thing he might not have gotten the memo of like how these positions are like who's getting hired because
Starting point is 00:16:48 He recently said that the food he's observed Donald Trump eating is quote just poison Yeah, and he said that the KFC and Big Macs were the healthiest things Trump ate Which that I was saying that just poison, I was like, oh, he must have seen him eating McDonald's and KFC, he was like, that's the good part. The rest of the stuff I consider kind of inedible. Like, is he, what is he eating? He said, it's just like really, really bad.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Because he said he's quote, never seen Trump drink a glass of water. Yeah, Dana White told him he's never seen Trump drink a glass of water. Yeah, Dana White told him he's never seen Trump drink a glass of water Which yeah Yeah, uh y'all Also, if that's the healthiest then what is he eating just like lard Yeah, I can't. Out of a, like Crisco by the Handful?
Starting point is 00:17:47 For most people, those are the like, those are the like, ah, you know, cheat day, the worst thing I'm gonna eat on my cheat day is KFC, is Big Macs. I didn't know, like- RFKFC. RFKFC, there you go. I didn't know it our FC RFC. There you go. I didn't know it got worse than that.
Starting point is 00:18:08 But so like, is he eating like kitchen sponges? Like when he says inedible, like what specifically does he mean? Yeah. Kind of curious. It's probably like like pasteurized milk or something. It's like, oh my God, you're not drinking raw milk. Oh my God, that's just R.F.K. because of R.F.K. is like weird beliefs. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:31 He's like, well, it's good he hasn't drank water because then he'd have the mind control fluoride in his brain. Right. Right. That's actually the reason he's able to lead us out of this mental prison. Yeah, I'm just curious what he hasn't. I don't know, who knows, by the time this episode comes out, he could fully be in charge of whatever organization and it's fully the nightmare come true. I mean, either way, he's the things he's saying he's going to do to whatever office he's appointed
Starting point is 00:18:57 to are disturbing, like whether it's the NIH and he's like, I'll get rid of all the scientists or like, you know, whatever it is. He's like, no, no, no, it's just whatever my vibes are is what I'm going to have to unleash on the country. Yeah. But who knows? I mean, Trump also has a knack for completely, you know, betraying people that helped him, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Maybe he didn't, maybe he didn't, maybe he doesn't like this new article that came out and he might just be- Yeah, maybe you should stop talking shit, bro. It's really going to be, like there's lots of ancient literature about, and like plays and stuff about like the dynamics of like people in royal courts, like backstabbing each other.
Starting point is 00:19:41 And because at a time when it's a monarchy, the only thing that matters is like getting the favor of the one person and that shit all sounds boring and can be really, really boring. Yeah. But yeah, I feel like there will be. It's going to be chaos either like whether these people do just make their own fucking terrible decisions or you can also just see to, you know, like in
Starting point is 00:20:04 any job, when you see someone, you get passed up for a promotion and you're like, damn, for real that then that starts you get now you get the weird palace entry kind of shit and the people start factioning off and tear each other down. But yeah, I don't it's every pick has been absolutely mind blowing merely because I've had to like adjust what I thought was absolute bottom of the barrel. Yeah, as we do with our with fast food. So we have to do with just the people running the most powerful military and economy in the world. We have to readjust our idea of how bad it can be. Yeah, yeah, yeah. have to readjust our idea of how bad it can be.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, like this will all be part of a process where we're gonna have to figure out how we push back on it all, because it's, I mean, it's, the experiment has begun. And I get all the gallows humor and it's just kind of hard to sort of like see it all but then also be like, but no,
Starting point is 00:21:10 that joke could be our reality and that's what's really disorienting about this. Yeah. All right, that's gonna do it for us this afternoon. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy.
Starting point is 00:21:28 No. And we will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. My name is Brandon Kyle Goodman. I'm a black, gay, non-binary author, TV writer, actor, and I'm messy. But not in the way you think.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Messy as in I'm human and flawed. I'm on a mission to destroy shame around sex. And the only way to do that is to talk about sex. So that's what we'll do on my brand new podcast, Tell Me Something Messy. Join me on Tell Me Something Messy with brand new episodes every Thursday on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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