The Daily Zeitgeist - The Department of GovernTrend Efficiency 11/13: Jumpshot Live, James Bond, 4B Movement, Trump's Cabinet
Episode Date: November 13, 2024In this edition of The DeparTrend of Government Efficiency, Jack and Miles discuss the incipient basketball-focused Top Golf-esque alternative: Jumpshot Live, how "whiteness is not a given" for the ne...w James Bond, the 4B movement spreading to the U.S., more on Trump's cabinet appointments and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello, the internet and welcome to this episode of the Department of Govertrend
Efficiency, courtesy of Vanadium Silver.
Yeah, we kept the acronym intact, which is cool.
That's what's cool, is doing a government agency
to like spell out a product is fun.
Yeah.
Hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah.
That's what I like about this new administration. It's gonna be real easy to understand everything. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what I like about this new administration is going to be real easy
to understand everything. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No more wonky.
If they made like the EPA spell out like tide,
because it's like we're cleaning things up, you know, like just dial soap.
Yeah. Yeah. What? Palm olive.
You can buy naming rights to government agencies. Yeah. Yeah.
Like their sports arenas and sell merch anyways
Well, we'll talk a little bit more about that on tomorrow's full episode
My name is Jack O'Brien that over there is miles
gray
Gray
And these are some of the stories that are trending right now
We just found out about, uh, a new business opportunity that we just
got to get you guys in on.
Yeah.
There's a basketball version of top golf for some coming.
Yeah.
Called jump shot live.
And I, it, I, I'm just having so much trouble understanding, like just so people understand, this is how
they describe it from their own press release.
It says, the concept of a technologically superior basketball experience coupled with
chef driven dining and craft cocktails is one of the, with a massive potential audience,
both in the United States and abroad.
They go on to say 28 million Americans age six and up play basketball.
Okay, so can the six and up partake
in your craft cocktails too,
or that's just a different offering.
Then they say their locations are designed
to span 50,000 square feet,
though some venues may vary in size,
with 50 gaming bays each,
and it'll accommodate up to six people,
and it'll be all kinds of shit with LED screens,
the backboards move,
so you can shoot anywhere on the court.
And there's like a bunch of athletes involved.
I think as people have pointed out,
specifically Dragonfly Jones,
cause it was his tweet that Evan saw this like weird mockup
of a video, was that basketball is not a fun sport
in terms of like, you can go casually.
Been like, hey man, let's just go have some drinks
and some fucking you know cheese curds down at jump shot live right now that'll be fine every
time i've been around my friends near a basketball hoop it turns into some hyper competitive shit
like it just does even if you're just playing too much riding on that shit. Yeah, it's and whereas golf as
Dragonfly was pointing out is like it's it's a humbling sport like sure some people are good
But most people go being like look we're all fucking trash
Maybe we can all have fun swinging a club around and not knowing what the fuck is going on
Yeah, and also like the drinking and snacking is built into golf like that's a big part of golfing. It's like when you're playing golf,
you're often drinking and there's like a hot dog cart.
There's not a hot dog cart on like basketball courts
for people to grab a couple hot dogs
and a beer while they're playing.
Maybe there should be,
but that's just not the way the sport evolved.
I also just think too, like Americans, a lot of people probably have some form of like old school ground, playground stress
from being a kid having to play basketball and not being good and just being stressed out like at PE.
Be like, fuck, we're having to play basketball.
And then I fucking have to.
Oh, man. I mean, like one of the most stressful experiences for me as a, as a, as a youth
was fucking trying out for basketball my freshman year of high school.
And like, I don't know about this.
I don't know about this.
I mean, so it's being brought to you by the people who do top golf, which, um, tangentially,
I think there's people like, as I read more, the COO is the guy who had been developing
real estate for places like Topgolf. So it's
people that definitely understand the sports entertainment. The upscale
dining sports play. And I will say I have gone to Topgolf with my kids and my
nephew and there is certainly an audience of people, there's certainly a
consumer base for people hanging out with their kids while
enjoying craft cocktails that seems to be there and burgeoning hell even at 11 in the
morning.
I will say that the logical thing, like if this were designed to actually be a thing
that they wanted to succeed is like, you would just add five gaming stations aka
basketball who places like little basketball hoop areas gaming guys yeah
to yeah gaming base to a top golf and see if anybody like gave a shit enough
to try it yeah because of the economy and the world that we live in.
That's not what they're not actually like trying to.
Would be my guess. Like, it feels like in the same way as like crypto and NFPs and like all that shit.
The thing that they're trying to do is like the whole like big launch
and like the hype around the launch is the product, you know,
like the deck is the product.
They like they're in the deck that like they've put out for this, which is just like, you know,
a slideshow. They have like a computer generated like drone fly through of the big dining room area.
And it's just, yeah, it's like trying to get as many investors on board before they realize it's a bad idea.
So you don't do the thing that would actually tell you it was a bad idea first because that
would just be too much useful information.
But this does feel like the perfect business idea for right before a potential huge recession.
Yeah, yeah.
It feels like that is what we are fueled by right now.
Holy shit, dude.
I went all in on that fucking jump shot place in 2024, man.
Yeah.
Fuck.
But yeah, we'll see, we'll see.
I know for me, nah, nah, nah.
You made the really good point.
Yeah, you made the really good point
that you can't hit a golf ball in your neighborhood.
Unless you live in one of these huge, you know, places
where they have huge tracts of land.
Most urban dwellers know you can walk 100 feet in most directions
and find a driveway or, you know, a little bit longer
and find a park with a basketball hoop.
But that park and that basketball hoop will not be next to fogged glass with jump shot
live written on it.
And that's the real opportunity that we're presenting people with here.
Yeah.
Anyways, other big news to for people to get excited and then disappointed about the James
Bond producers, Barbara Broccoli and Michael G. Wilson have said that they're going to cast a new James Bond and
Whiteness is not a given
Jesus Christ, it will be a man
likely in his 30s and
Drum roll, please
Whiteness is not a given. What a fucking phrase.
Yeah.
Uh, and whiteness is not a given, although we may we may.
It may be a preference.
It may be a preference. It's not a given.
Preferential not a lot.
Not going to. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see.
I don't know who wants to even touch this role anymore.
But I mean, because there was we had so much fun being like, it could be a fucking not white guy or man.
And then, you know, you have all these people like James Bond can only be a white guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It just, Alba said the response when his name was floated made the whole thing quote disgusting
and off putting as a result
Yeah, yeah, so maybe just like I mean again I get like for a studio
They're like it just makes money man, and it's yeah, but you know what you can easily come up with a new thing
I have just want to say you can always come up with a new thing. What about that guy Jim from the office?
Oh my fucking god, dude you oh no no no no no
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sexy? The Antonio Banderas how do you say show. All right let's take a quick break
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We're back. We're back. And there's been a surge in research into the South Korean movement, the 4B movement.
In the hours after the election, there was a surge, like a bunch of people searching.
Now it's becoming a more formalized thing.
This is an informal South Korean feminist movement that basically agrees among women to not have sex,
not have children, not marry men in response to the steady spread and, you know, overpowering
growth of power of misogyny and popular and political culture. It started in South Korea in the 2010s, gained a lot of strength after a
horrifying crime in which an incel murdered a 23-year-old woman in a public bathroom in
the Gangnam district of Seoul. And in 2022, they had their own kind of Trump-like figure sweep to power on the back of a young male swing vote
and so it's growing there. It's not like a super well-defined movement like a one
of the people who's kind of heavily involved calls it more of an
individualized resistance rather than like a highly organized movement but I
understand why it's getting a lot of attention
from people at this moment.
And also I feel like the conservative media ecosystem
is gonna fucking eat this shit up.
Yeah, no, yeah.
It's inspired some pretty heinous responses, I'd say.
Yeah, and like there was an article in Rolling Stone
where they were talking to some South Korean women
who were just like asking, like, they're like,
oh, what do you think?
Like, well, to see it spread.
And they're like, they're heartened to see that, you know,
like the people are sort of understanding, you know,
what kind of power they can wield.
One said, quote, I also share the sentiment
and I'm very glad that so many women are deciding
to embark on a journey that will lead them to freedom
that they could not have imagined.
And you know, they're saying like, it's not, they're not saying it's not merely just like
sort of a complete saying like men are banned forever, but to truly look inward to what
your values are and understanding how you want that reflected back to you and a partner.
But yeah, for like the right wing crowd, they're just the responses just from like, you know,
you can already, you can already imagine how right wing men are responding to people saying that
like they will exercise agency over their bodies. So yeah,
yeah, yeah. Yeah.
So speaking of Trump, uh,
his cabinet appointments seem to be pulling from just like his friends,
just like a,
a group of people who have been in headlines
with him in the past two months.
Like it's like Matt Gaetz as Attorney General,
Kristi Noem for the Department of Homeland Security,
a Fox News host as, is it Secretary of Defense?
Yeah, Pete Hegseth is secretary of defense.
The guy who we've talked about before who's like,
I don't wash my hands like ever.
Yeah. Like why?
Why do I have to?
Doesn't even matter.
He's, I mean, historically the most fucking
unqualified person for that.
Like people, even like Republican senators,
like what the fuck, dude dude like the entire war machine apparatus
But again when you couple that with things like they're trying to create a way to purge generals to sort of you know
Control the military just full stop in line with their own ideology
This makes sense because most of these appointments you're like what the fuck like Tulsi Gabbard as like DNI these are all people who have been so loyal to Donald Trump
they are being repaid with these positions but I don't think for a second
that they're being actually picked because he's like the best secretary of
defense is Pete Hegseth it's that I need husks of people in these positions that
seem like they have the agency
and decision-making power of a cabinet position,
but really they're completely willing to just be
to say like, I have this title.
Yeah, yeah, whatever Trump wants.
That's really what's happening.
Because yeah, I mean like-
It's not even the pretense of like competence
or meritocracy now.
No.
Because like the first administration, the bar was like,
you can't have said something bad about me.
Right.
And now it's, you have to have said such unaccountably like good things about me
out of line with reality that it made headlines like that.
That seems to be where we're at, which is like, you know, a smaller and smaller
group. Yeah, yeah, truly.
Well, you have a law degree, right?
So you can be attorney general, I feel like.
But it was mostly like I was doing like car accidents and stuff.
And like, I mean, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll do it.
I'll do it. I'll do it.
I mean, I have my own cases that I'm trying to avoid.
So, yeah, it would be great if I could run the Department of Justice.
And I mean, like, you know, you hear it at every level.
People at these departments who are completely like, I we have no idea
what kind of like retribution we're going to face, how how fucking intense
these purges are going to be.
But a lot of people are saying like, it looks like there's, yeah, a lot of
a lot of loyalists being put in.
And you see people be like, well, at least they're like an idiot.
So like, I'd rather have an idiot in there than like some like true,
like, you know, mega brained evil person.
But again, I think I think the point here is just to have these people there
because they're not like they have their own ideas of what they want to do with these.
And they can't just put like, you know, the people from the heritage foundation in these positions.
They're just going to be like, yeah, you'll do that.
And then we'll just tell you what to do.
Yeah.
Just fucking frightening.
And then of course we have RFK Jr. with all the, has he officially been named?
No, not yet.
One thing he might not have gotten the memo of like how these positions are like who's getting hired because
He recently said that the food he's observed Donald Trump eating is quote just poison
Yeah, and he said that the KFC and Big Macs were the healthiest things Trump ate
Which that I was saying that just poison,
I was like, oh, he must have seen him eating McDonald's
and KFC, he was like, that's the good part.
The rest of the stuff I consider kind of inedible.
Like, is he, what is he eating?
He said, it's just like really, really bad.
Because he said he's quote,
never seen Trump drink a glass of water.
Yeah, Dana White told him he's never seen Trump drink a glass of water. Yeah, Dana White told him he's never seen Trump drink a glass of water
Which yeah
Yeah, uh y'all
Also, if that's the healthiest then what is he eating just like lard
Yeah, I can't.
Out of a, like Crisco by the Handful?
For most people, those are the like,
those are the like, ah, you know, cheat day,
the worst thing I'm gonna eat on my cheat day is KFC,
is Big Macs.
I didn't know, like-
RFKFC.
RFKFC, there you go.
I didn't know it our FC RFC. There you go. I didn't know it got worse than that.
But so like, is he eating like kitchen sponges?
Like when he says inedible, like what specifically does he mean?
Yeah. Kind of curious.
It's probably like like pasteurized milk or something.
It's like, oh my God, you're not drinking raw milk.
Oh my God, that's just R.F.K.
because of R.F.K. is like weird beliefs.
Yeah, yeah.
He's like, well, it's good he hasn't drank water
because then he'd have the mind control fluoride in his brain.
Right. Right.
That's actually the reason he's able to lead us out of this mental prison.
Yeah, I'm just curious what he hasn't. I don't know, who knows, by the time this episode
comes out, he could fully be in charge of whatever organization and it's fully the nightmare
come true.
I mean, either way, he's the things he's saying he's going to do to whatever office he's appointed
to are disturbing, like whether it's the NIH and he's like, I'll get rid of all the scientists
or like, you know, whatever it is.
He's like, no, no, no, it's just whatever my vibes are is what I'm going to have
to unleash on the country.
Yeah.
But who knows?
I mean, Trump also has a knack for completely, you know, betraying people
that helped him, so I don't know.
Maybe he didn't, maybe he didn't, maybe he doesn't like this new article that came
out and he might just be-
Yeah, maybe you should stop talking shit, bro.
It's really going to be,
like there's lots of ancient literature about,
and like plays and stuff about like the dynamics
of like people in royal courts,
like backstabbing each other.
And because at a time when it's a monarchy,
the only thing that
matters is like getting the favor of the one person and that shit all sounds
boring and can be really, really boring.
Yeah.
But yeah, I feel like there will be.
It's going to be chaos either like whether these people do just make their
own fucking terrible decisions or you can also just see to, you know, like in
any job, when you see someone, you get passed up for a promotion and you're like, damn,
for real that then that starts you get now you get the weird palace entry kind of shit
and the people start factioning off and tear each other down. But yeah, I don't it's every
pick has been absolutely mind blowing merely because I've had to like adjust what I thought was absolute bottom of the barrel.
Yeah, as we do with our with fast food.
So we have to do with just the people running the most powerful military and economy in the world.
We have to readjust our idea of how bad it can be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. have to readjust our idea of how bad it can be.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, like this will all be part of a process
where we're gonna have to figure out
how we push back on it all, because it's,
I mean, it's, the experiment has begun.
And I get all the gallows humor
and it's just kind of hard to sort of like see it all
but then also be like, but no,
that joke could be our reality
and that's what's really disorienting about this.
Yeah.
All right, that's gonna do it for us this afternoon.
We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show.
Until then be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves,
get the vaccine,
don't do nothing about white supremacy.
No.
And we will talk to y'all tomorrow.
Bye.
Bye.
My name is Brandon Kyle Goodman.
I'm a black, gay, non-binary author,
TV writer, actor, and I'm messy.
But not in the way you think.
Messy as in I'm human and flawed.
I'm on a mission to destroy shame around sex.
And the only way to do that is to talk about sex.
So that's what we'll do on my brand new podcast, Tell Me Something Messy.
Join me on Tell Me Something Messy
with brand new episodes every Thursday
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you listen to podcasts.